This Guitar is a Dirty FAKE! - Fixing an ILLEGAL Suhr Guitar!
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- Time to remedy this illegal overseas copy of a very expensive Suhr guitar!
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Yup! Time to make Shur nobody gets sucked in by this fake guitar!
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Hi Darrell! Amazing content as always. Keep it up!! :) have a nice day.
i have a guitar with a unique bridge and i want you to see it, where can do i do so?
Give to me...If you no Like....Pleeeaassseeee
Awh, you’re taking all the fun out of it. Just kidding.
You did a great job on the back of the headstock, but my OCD wants to spend more time on the front. If you use really fine sand paper 2000 to 2500, you can really buff that up. I think I’d experiment with rubbing some black die into it, too; the body seems to have a very slight yellowing color, too. Finally, I’d shine it up with car wax and a buffing wheel.
makes you wonder if companies just turn their defected guitars into "counterfeits". they still make their money but they don't loose their integrity...
You can change the brand to ForSuhr
fauxsuhr
Or NotSuhr 😄
Or UnSuhr?
YesSurh 😄
I would have started with a finer grit abrasive paper on the front to remove the fake logo then feathered the rest of the clear coat and rebuilt it. Might have avoided damage to the veneer. Just saying. Love your channel. Rock on!
if you like the guitar, dont be ashamed of it. just play the hell out of it. love it.
Pretty cool Big D. Found a good way to get rid of some of the spring rattle on my trim springs. Electrical heat shrink tubing. Thanks for showing us how to be innovative.
Well done ☺️ Phil McKnight did a similar video (I believe his fake was also a Suhr) and he fire branded "fake" in the neck pocket as an additional step to ensure it could not be sold off as an original
Wow, the headstock came out pretty nice albeit lighter than the body. Next time for such a project, using this project as an example, try a little bit of gray and black (or whatever the contrasting colors may be) spray paint with at a bit of a distance (22-24 in) between the can and the headstock & speckle with light mist & short bursts. (having masked off where you do not want the spray), literally, like only one of two light passes, then steel wool (800-1600) over the finish, blending the colors. Once you get the right blend, use your sealer/oil/coat of choice. It is amazing how close you can get to the right colors. The quilt may not exactly match, but the right color depth & tones will blend it nicely overall.
WOW, David it sounds like you are an artist!! Thanks for the heads up bcuz I never probably never would have Been able to put that off lol thanks for your expertise bro!! 💯
@@lucassmith1319 ...not really an artist, just try things that are outside of the box. For a project like this counterfeit, you don't mind experimenting a little. Darrell did a phenomenal job with removing the logo and still retaining much of the finish. That is no small feat
Nice job Darrell. My suggestion is to rattle-can spray paint the face of the headstock gloss black.
I think it would look a little better than the sanded down original colour, that no longer matches.
It would take a couple of hours at most to prepare, mask and paint and would also be cheap to do.
Keep up the great work!
Sounds like a plan, I would have done both sides and used the original chrome tuners and left the original chrome knobs to tie it altogether. :)
Wow, you have integrity my friend, I would never do that if I had a fake!
Have you had experience with woodburning? A friend, in 1974, had a natural wood (of all things!) Mosrite with one of those loosy goosy roller trems. Someone had woodburned the Lord's Prayer on the back. Very well done.
Phil Mcknight did something like this and i love it. remove ALL falsities and you’re left with, ideally, a great guitar
I was a bit sceptical at first, but you did a brilliant job in the end. Those black tuners set it off too. Well done!
@DBG And did you know Darrell, that on Hipshot Open Gear tuners, tightening the screw that attaches the tuner knob will actually tighten how the gears mesh and you can completely eliminate gear creep, (It's True!) which is fantastic for any guitar with a trem system! I love mine and I have a Bigsby, but it stays in tune bro!
The only downside is that "open gear" is a terrible design for a precission part like a tuner. All the dust and grime makes it wear out prematurely
Good vid with a question on the re-do:
Was the electronics cavity shielded? Did not look like it in the video. If not, should it have been or is it not an issue? Your previous videos that I've watched always seem to address this as in issue.
Nice work Shur.
Glad you did this. I get fed up flagging so many counterfeit guitars on Facebook marketplace. It isn't illegal to own one but you cannot sell one. That's the law (in UK anyway) even if you legitimately say its a replica that doesn't matter selling it with the trademark infringements makes it illegal
Fun video, great sound . Thanks Darrell
Good job Darrell..love it! Still gonna look nice when you get done!
Looks good man. Hey what did ya use to stain the back of the headstock?
I wonder if the could be a factory worker that had access to parts and has no access to the tools he would need to make his own brand.
Nice job Darrell. The body has a look like aged clear that the headstock is lacking. A mahogany stain may have color matched the reverse of the headstock better, along with a coat of satin. I agree with your initial assessment, it's a nice guitar that didn't need to copy Suhr's logo. Cheers!
As mentioned elsewhere in the comments, if you haven't put oil or clearcoat on the back of the headstock, you might try some red dye or stain to better color match the neck. The front was looking kind of rough at first, but its not bad once you get the hardware on it. Waterslide decals followed by clearcoat would have been another option, as would wood burning small "No" or "Not" branding iron type brands into the headstock. Not much you can do with veneers when it comes to refinishing - SO easy to sand through! I recently ruined a flamed ES335 kit by sanding through the veneer. Now its a paint grade build at best.
Great job Darrell, must take a lot of patience and skill. Have you ever done a vid on the old Yamaha SG series? Regards, Dave C
Nice fix. Wish that walnut stain matched better, but it beats being a fake. Be nice to see a trem that fits on it, too.
I see a few comments about painting the headstock black, but I think that if you were to airbrush some black around the perimeter of the headstock (matching the body) and then apply a really glossy finish, it might end up looking fairly close to the body. Adding back a custom logo might help as well.
I love your playing. Great style!!!
I remember some time back, I resprayed my guitar.. Was inspired by one of your tutorials. ❤️
I dig the lighter headstock, and the black hardware is so clean!
You did better on the headstock than I could! Congrats!
Hey Darrel. Power chords and double string notes in the higher frets of my guitar produce vibrating effect/sound. What is the problem? Like when I play F power chord, no vibration but when I play let's say B, there is unpleasant vibration. I have floating bridge and I have modified it only for lowering the pitch.
How close are your pickups to your strings? You might need to lower them.
@@LemonMeIon my neck pickup is about 8-10mm below the strings. Do i need to lower further?
@@navinsubba7169 I don’t think that’s it. That’s probably the lowest you should have them. My pickups are about 4mm and the pull pieces about 2.5mm away from strings. If the magnets are too close, it can feed back. Do you have the same problem with other guitars? It could be something in your rig like the type of distortion.
@@LemonMeIon thanks. Now I really think that the problem is with the bridge because I can hear the same directly from the guitar i.e. without amplifier. It is a Floyd Rose special.
@@navinsubba7169 I’m afraid floating bridges are out of my expertise, but there could be a number of issues:
1. Make sure neck is straight
2. Make sure bridge string action is set high enough to avoid buzzing against frets
3. Dampen springs in back of cavity with cloth/foam
Darrell I hope you see this may be you can help me out. I'm about to do an upgrade to my cheap Glary guitar like total make over pickups, nut, tuning machines, bridge. Question I got is what to start with, is there a pattern or do whatever you want first. Please help if you can. I'm doing this first time.
the finishing look awesome!!!😅
Did you replace the nut? Last video I remember it was horrendous (for tuning stability)
I have one of these HSH ,2014 edition locking tuners very nice actually.
I have a Fernandes Dragonfly with that finish. Gorgeous.
I'll buy that no name for a hundred! lol. Nice restoration. It may become one of your favorites.
Groovy posting! I take it you purchased this fake online and if overseas etc. probably not much legal action can be taken (thinking John Suhr would entertain) 😉
I have been fortunate enough to play a few Suhr guitars and I feel they are made exceptionally well…best of the best (IMO)…with that said, not necessarily better than other guitars as it’s subjective. Keep up the good work up dare in the GWN hey 😉
I just ordered on Amazon a lyxpro strat I ordered a blue one I received a bright pink one but I have not seen any videos on TH-cam about it figured you might want to take a look at it
Beautiful guitar Bro 🎸💥
Turned out nice. I would have looked into some other stain colours. I personally like the gunstock stain. Possibly mix some brown stain with some gunstock stain.
Can you do a video on how Ibanez and other Japanese guitar brands got started with forgeries like this? Cool video!
Nice work, Darrell.
Great video! I watch all of your videos man. Let me know if you want to sell that guitar! Lol
This suhrtenly is one of my favorite channels on you tube
Getting closer to a Nita Strauss Ibanez signature guitar now. Looks good :)
Hi, Darrell. Have you ever tried a guitar made by Schorr Guitars? They have a very unique slideable pickups design. Thought it would be cool to see you demo it.
Great job 👍👍👍
At this point, I would say just make the front of the headstock gloss black. Take the neck to a paint or hardware store and they should be able to match the red on the back of the neck.
Should have burned a big "NO" in nice font in front of the "Suhr" on the headstock and then burned "Fake" into the back of the headstock and body. Then you could have kept the original finish and look while making an interesting conversation piece, while protecting the brand and possible future purchasers. 🙂
Change the back to say "MADE IN HELL"
There’s a Ibanez prestige at my local pawnshop I was looking at bubinga top for 500 seems awful cheap I guess any suggestions on telling if it’s real Idk
Now it looks good and sounds good !!
I mean, I would play the frets right off that sucker… it’s a gorgeous guitar. Nice mods brother, and cheers from the East Coast eh🇨🇦
Happy holidays, Darrell. All of my "cheap" guitars are counterfeits of established designs with their logos.
But I wouldn't trade my 'collection' of 27 guitars for one $10,000 Gibson, Fender, or Martin. Asian artisans are superb & perfect for "the starving musician."
My new Indio Helix @ $153 from Monoprice is the finest of my electrics. Prices will skyrocket, bro. So, we come in on "the ground floor" before inflation dominates the market, which I see beginning. And with war on the horizon, changes are coming, brother.
Not knowing the future my 'shredmaster' nephew will inherit these instruments along with my audiophile recording studio.
All the best, bro! I'll be blessed to live through Christmas.
hi again bud now hat looks great kinda uniqe , i like it well done, mike in the uk.
I would have removed the finish with a solvent, thus preserving the veneer. Good job turning it back into the HardLuck Kings guitar it started out as.
I think the original chrome-coloured tuners and knobs looked better, as they were harmoniously matching the frets and inlays. The black tuners look okay if you like army camouflage, but they look a bit yucky to me, especially on the rear of the headstock with the black, brass and brown mix. Using black parts to match the bridge was a standard idea, but it was unnecessary, as the black body-edge already made that bridge look good.
It was good that you could take the logo off the headstock and still leave most of the paint. I would have liked to see a full job - restoring a black edge, like exists on the body. Don't you think that just sanding off the region that had the brand-name would have caused less damage?
I also don't understand the worry about tight-fitting sides in the neck joint. Every video, it's obsessing over something that doesn't matter. :D
I watch most of your videos. 'Hope that some constructive criticism can be endured.
Questions..and I had these when I saw the first video of this guitar.
1.) How did you get a fake Suhr?
2.) Where did you get? (How much?)
3.) Why did you get one? (By mistake?)
Anywho, dig the channel! 🤘✌️
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing, I’d like the full story! Especially where was it made and by whom, such a nice guitar must have been made by someone experienced.
This is his second video. He ended up finding it on Craigslist/Kijiji or something like that. Seller was upfront of it being a knockoff.
@@bubkusjones thanks for the info! Yeah, I thought he should have a previous video and looked for it in his recent videos but couldn't find it. Just saw that the video is almost a year old now :)
Thanks - he could have at least said "the story on how I got this is in a previous video," but no - off to watch the other video ... and he does indeed point out the problems you shouldn't see in a 3k (!!!) guitar.
I would have painted the headstock all black like the super strat you did a couple of years ago.
It is a nice guitar and I’m glad you didn’t destroy it or brand it.
“Today we’re going to be going back to an old, but important project today on this channel: Project No Suhr!”
Yes Suhr, Yes Suhr! Reporting for duty on Project No Suhr, you can be Suhr of that!
that a great video man
Thanks WM!
I didn't really like seeing this done to what was, a beautiful looking guitar.
And as you said that it played nicely too, it makes it even more of a shame.
Yes, I know that is was a 'fake', but to be absolutely honest, I don't care.
I currently own 31 guitars, including 5 Gibsons and 4 Fenders. All are genuine as I've owned them for many years (long before the 'Fakes started appearing). So, ok I'm lucky, but let's face it, if these 'big' manufacturers didn't charge such absolutely ridiculous prices, there would not be a market for 'fakes'.
Cheers. 😊😎🎸
Think the guitar headstock would look good if you matched it to the black around the edge of the guitar body also some dark pickup covers if you like the sound of them.
My rule for fakes is, try not to resell, if it is a resell case do what Phillip McKnight did and brand it with a big ol fake stamp.
You could have totally taken that clearcoat down and gotten the decals off without taking off all of the color. What did you just throw some 80 grit on the electric sander and go to town? 320 by hand would’ve done much better
Buy a maple burr veneer and glue it to the back of the headstock. Much easier than matching finish.
Also, airbrush a burst back onto the face of the headstock. Very easy to do and will look much better
I’d use it as a test-bed for different parts you try out 👍
They should have built a Strat or Tele style guitar. They must have pretty good tools. With this build quality it would sell well.
Unfortunately probably not. There are a lot of brands on the market. Making something original and establishing your own brand is not easy. Many have done that but who knows how many small building shops are only known locally or have failed.
Thats no excuse for making an illegal product of course.
A retrofit blade trem might be the cure for the bridge. After that, Bareknuckle Polymath pickups.
Its got a great sound.
Your under arrest, Mr. Canadian with humor.
I like it, nice job on the guitar! I am positively against illegal fakes! Even though some of them are quite good, it is still a fake.
Instead of sanding, why not use a solvent like acetone or similar?
Darrell, I once had a fake lefty Gibson Les Paul but there were a couple of weird things about it. Instead of being Gibson on the headstock it had Orville. But, if you got it in the right light you could see Gibson underneath Orville. I know of the true Orvilles that Gibson put out in the past but this wasn’t one of them. I suspect it was discovered or other fakes were being shut down and caused them to overspray the new logo. I got it from a pawn shop thinking it was real.
Now you can put made in Canada, because as an orphan guitar it doesn't have company parents, so you have made some changes enough to proudly adopt it as your own
No Suhr well done Sir - on my monitor it looks like a bit more yellow coat would make the headstock match even better 😊
Black gloss on headstock for Suhr
Back of headstock loks good
Cool guitar, some black outline airbrush on the headstock face would make it pop.
Next string change, just stain the front of the headstock black with gloss clear coat.
It'll look totally of a piece.
Nice mystery guitar.
How did you determine it a fake?
I would have found some kind of decal to hide the Shur logo. Then a quick clearcoat and call it good.
I think a decal of the International sign for NO over the Fake logo would be ok.
All would know it was a 'No' Shur guitar. Thanks DBG.
Lololoool i think my igloo is on fire 🤭
Such a nice guitar though. I'd love something like that
I'd have sanded down the entire guitar and just completely restained it but nice work anyway. Glad to see the chances of someone buying a fake are gone.
Could have put a random decal over the Suhr logo and clear coated that!
A good name for it would be Not-Sure with an Idiocracy movie logo lol.
Darrell, where did you get this? I don't want to scam anyone I just want a nice guitar for my own collection.
You should have had another headstock decal made in the same font that said Not. Left it as Suhr Not
“It is a no name guitar now” (uncomfortable laugh((KnowIng the real truth)) seeing any profit in resale hit the floor) Still rad DB, it’s a keeper, it will fit into at least a few arrangements, fxck all the logo wars!
Would have added a tasteful custom sticker to hide the Suhr logo
Awesome videos, I really like your channel and your videos. The problem is now I want so many sub $200. guitars.
Thanks for the entertainment and the great information, I hope your channel is around longer than I am.
I want to buy one of those sure fakes they are nice as heck.
Discreetly that's what he's hoping for.. along with the "upgraded" tuners and bridge. That's the end game here.. in my opinion.
Unless you intend to sell the guitar why remove the decals.
I have a custom made Strat with "Fender" decals that i bought used.
The seller made it clear that it was not made by Fender.
In my case the decals are on top of the lacquer, so easly removed.
I have almost the same guitar from Harley Benton with original Grovers, Floyd Rose and stainless steel frets. Paid 200 euro's for it, used.
Is it too late to win this ?
Just seen it .
It looks beautiful.
Satin Gloss?
Candidate for give away? Darrell, can I be first to sign for it? 😂
No Suhr haha, fantastic pun work 👍😂🇦🇺🍻🍻🍻
why do you not review carvin guitars
I would take a picture for the Authorities and the real Suhr!
Used transmission fluid will give you that odd stain like is on that guitar neck