What is a story pole? And how do you use one??
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- In this quick tutorial video, I am explaining what a story pole is and how you can use it on your jobsite in order to be more accurate and efficient. If these little tutorial "how to" videos are useful... please let me know by giving it a thumbs up and leave me a comment. Better yet, subscribe so you don't miss future tips and tricks or how to videos!!
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This is a good book. Does provide a step by step introduction to how to build things th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhgbP-6hUnXu_QRaoHgLztgsI0YF3HqR0 , also does offer some steps. Includes pictures to give you ideas for layouts and such. If you are looking for a guide, this is not exactly what you want. But if you are trying to familiarize yourself with the way that pole barn building and other out buildings, are made, then this will work just as you need it to. A few things in this book are a barn (of course), detached garage, storage building, and coops.
Great idea to break out tips and tricks into their own videos. This channel will eventually be a gold mine for people interested in house building.
Very nice hands on explanation. I can see how your whole system is built for efficiency. Thanks for the tip! Finally time for shorts as well, gotta love the summer!!
I'm just glad to see a build without any freakin ice or snow finally !
+deme7063 I know, RIGHT?!?!?!
Learned what a story pole was years ago while watching This Old House. They used it for wooden shingles on the sidewall of a house, and have seen them use it numerous times since for tons of different applications. Anyway, nice video. These little tips and tricks videos are very informative.
Story poles always confused the hell outta me for the longest time. I was over complicating them. But once you use one and realize the time savor and quality jump, they are totally worth using in large applications like your barns. Excellent explanation!
Thank u sir. For another great video. U make Post Frame look so easy
Awesome video. Great presentation of the power of a story pole. Such a helpful tool in many different applications
That's a great explanation of a simple aid I never considered. Thanks for sharing. 7.14 in the morning here and I already learned something. Gonna be a good day. :)
Roderik Vanderkelen awesome that is the goal. Good luck
Love the "how to" vids! Thanks!!
Great tip. Not new but really important. Story poles have been around since they started building - Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mayans, Incas, etc .. historical evidence has shown the use of poles and story strings .. all used them
Great tip Kyle.
Love Your work! cheers from Poland ;)
Love the tutorial videos!
great video ,, help me a lot to understand what's the (story pole ) thanks again!!!
Nice video on the jobsite. Money drone shot at the end.
Great Video as always ‼️👍 Vinny 🇺🇸
Very cool, thanks! 👍🇺🇸
You explain things in detail... Thanks!!! Sometime make a video on metal trim pieces specialuty cuts!!! "w.w."
Great video thanks for sharing have a great day
thanks for the tip
I use those for everything from framing to finish work and cabinets. Work smarter, not harder.
Been watching your videos to learn and pick up some tips for the building of my garage. They have been a very good source of information that I have already planned to implement. Do you have a specific video that shows how to figure out the spacing of the girts based on the wall height? Especially interested in finding out where to locate the top girt so it is in the proper location for the soffit installation. One of the biggest differences is that I already have a poured concrete slab with 12X12 footing perimeter and in floor heating tubes already placed. I will be building on top of the 30X48 slab. Any information or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Thank You !!!
Interesting. Going to try it for a few jobs... See how it goes...
Great drone views at the end of the episode.
Great idea use, the same method for Pulp wood or Pit Props when felling here in UK. Took a tape measure in first time and noticed a pulp stick was 7ft 6" my reach is the same so if ineed another I cut a sapling to my reach. All trades have their tricks. Cheers
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I love your videos. I'm ready for a new pole barn this year and I'm wondering if it's cheaper/better to laminate PT and KD or a solid PT post? If the PT/KD lamination option is better, please tell us why. Would you mind doing a quick vid on just posts? Thanks, Todd from NH.
Kyle - in another video you talk about using the same story pole but marking the inside dimensions. I think it would really help if you used a 16' sidewall building as an example and listed all of the measurements from bottom to top (ie: 39 girt, 71" girt, 103" girt, maybe 120" header for lean-to, 13" girt, ….. Thanks
The same idea works for other repetitive measurements, I have seen it recommended for blacksmithing work also.
Iv'e watched most of your videos and enjoy them all. Wish I could extract your knowledge with the push of a button. What would you recommend to learn about building a garage? Learning the basic names of what things are is probably where I need to start. I am an Artilleryman, retired in 2009. I know US Army stuff. From shooting 105mm shells to MLRS systems to calculating site to crest to calling in observer fires to bringing in attack helicopter or F16s onto a target, to calculating fire missions on a Paladin howitzer. That is what I know. I am a government contractor and go where the US Army requires me to go. On my off time, I enjoy wood working and riding my motorcycles. My intent is to build my own garage (60' by 80').
Looks like winter has finally ended in your neck of the woods. :)
David B lol. If I start my next build series you might still see sweatshirts 😂
The Highland Woodworker, a TH-camr making woodworking videos talked about making a story pole when he was building his shop for where things were run inside the wall like 110v and 220v lines. This way he knew by use of the story pole where it was safe to drill for mounting things to the walls.
MrRedTux great idea
A quick transfer, works every time!
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Very useful info about the story pole. Do your concrete guys shot a laser to to level the peirs? Or do you?
I like the way you add the birds chirping to the drone shot.
Kyle Passen once we are done they can shoot on the interior geadeboard. Concrete is poured right on top of pier not into them.
A video on How to figure out grade using a laser for newbies or diyers would be great too !
Kyle,
I know you may have said it somewhere, but what is your measurement on the post at the top of your truss so your tail plains into your purlins. Thanks keep up the good work.
Never knew it had a name. Clev..RR. Thanks!
Would you show how you set up the chains? How do they make the building move?
Story pole for framing, story stick for cabinet work.
Love your videos!!!
Can you please tell me..... If one bracket in your piers was for example 2inch higher than the others that post would be 2inch shorter to keep them all the same height for the trusses????
Am I right in thinking you mark from the top of the post down or the horizontal timber would be out depending on different lengths of post. Do you mark from the top down???
I learn lots from you guys. Super super videos thank you for taking the time to share with us.
yes....every post is different below the reference mark depending on how good we set our brackets to grade
If one of the piers was 2 inches higher than they did something wrong lol, but they could essentially just use that as the new grade and that pole would be flush with the end of the story pole.
They don't mark from the top down. The story pole has a mark that corresponds to the truss height and they cut the pole before it goes up. So the distance from the start line (the end of the story pole) to where the pole is cut for the truss is the same on every pole, but the tail sticking out under the story pole is what is different on each pole. The excess of the pole is cut off before the roof sheeting is put on.
Why do you choose the 3 2x6 beam on the metal braclet strategy verses nailing studs straight ontop of a ground board bolted to concrete? Whats the advantages?
The measurement of 1 3/8" only referred to that first bracket, correct? each bracket would have a different number for "grade height" and you mark those measurements on each corresponding post? So you make sure all your posts are in the order that they'll go into the brackets, transfer that grade mark then use the story pole?
Just want to make sure I'm thinking this all correctly.
Thanks for a great tip video.
You got it right.
The Sono tubes are all set with a laser to a certain height. Then the brackets are set in the wet cement. In another video he showed his list of measurements from each bracket and all the measurements were with in half an inch. Pretty figgen impressive given that the tubes could had shifted and the brackets are set by hand by just pushing them down.
How do you capture natural sound over the background noise of the drone rotors? With a different camera? Looks like a beautiful site and the video was really enhanced by the songbirds. Nice work.
thats possible with the mavic....it captures from your phone mic
How do you find the grade mark? I can see and understand the up or down the 1 3/8 but how do you find the grade mark?Thanks
So I'm assuming grade is top of pier, not bottom of bracket? I see the 1 3/8", but your other post brackets ,I'm assuming, are within a 1/4" correct? You have my wheels churning. I've built several buildings and your good. I look up all the tools I've seen u guys use, everything. Lucky man...awesome job!
Kyle, Great Tutorial! Does each vertical post have it's unique corresponding offset mark ? I'm assuming yes, if so, do you number them to keep them in the right order/location. If that is the case seems like the tops will be all different heights. Does that matter or are the roof trusses fastened to the sides of the vertical? Thanks for doing these videos!
every post is unique to a bracket and we mark them so we don't get confused...quite simple actually and efficient
If that is the case seems like the tops will be all different heights. Does that matter or are the roof trusses fastened to the sides of the vertical?
That's what he was talking about at the beginning with that 1 3/8" mark on the side of the gray bracket. The 1 3/8 inch meant that that bracket was 1 3/8 inch above grade (level). Each bracket has a different number on it. Then the story pole is set 1 3/8" from the end for that specific column and so on with each column so that the lines are an equal distance from grade (level). It took me a little bit of watching his videos to understand how it all fit together so hopefully this made sense.
He doesn't show it well in this video but. The columns are laminated and the truss sits "inside" the outside two 2x6. The post are shipped with a removable blank at the top that he trims down in each one.
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My grand daughter has different definition of a story pole. Once upon a time... lol
you build other stuff than garages, storage facilities? Like porches, complete houses etc? id like to see videos on that.
Just to be clear, the first mark on the bottom of Each post is marked according to that laser, correct? What ever the differences is between all post put that first mark, then go off of it to make the rest with the story pole?
David Williams exactly!!
You said 39" up, then 32" after that to the top. Is the line the center of girt board? Or bottom or top edge? But that's for buildings with metal siding, correct? How would you lay it out if you were to sheath the outer walls? 24" spreads?
After using the story pole do you go back and cut off each post at the bottom mark (+1 3/8")?
no...the whole point is that 1 3/8" is below my grade....I measure up that distance and then the reference mark is my zero elevation.. every post has a different measurement based off the laser
Few questions.. we know the bottom board is the grade board. Next one up on the side for wall gurts is 2ft? The next is 39” from the bottom to allow for your transition in colors. Then every two ft all the way up to your ceiling height which in my build will be 12ft. At what height do I put my board for soffit? On my post and at the top of my ceiling height of 12ft I add 15 1/2” for my heel, what extra do I allow for when build my soffits, just the height of a 2x4? Fixing to start on my build.
Also I am building my building on a slab, where do I take my measurement with my laser? At the lowest bracket?
Thanks Kyle
Can some respond to my question above?
Why is the wainscoting wall gurt 39”? The metal is 48” and shouldn’t the walls be on 2ft center?
I'm Not certain but I believe that the use of story poles goes back to eighteen century Ship Building and I think it was done in suck a way that a story pole could actually be used from ship to ship to assure consistency from one to another.
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One thing thing that might confuse some people is that you need to measure each post bracket individually, and keep track of which post go on which bracket. In other words every bracket measurement isn't going to be 1 3/8. (unless you were pefect on setting the brackets). Guessing you use a simple numbering system?
as we make our posts, we make them in order and mark each measurement on the bottom so when we place it in the bracket we can confirm that the post is the same as the bracket measurement
Just tangentially relevant to this video, but how do you deal with a muddy site like that? What steps do you take to make sure everything doesn't end up dirty and warped?
Jiinia Smith we prep all of our lumber and stack it on dry ground... we then do our best to minimize working out in the mud and keep clean shoes on site if we need to be up on the walls
Damn how can I work for you?! I just need to be the next Greg it's my passion.
Once you've established the mark on each bracket, and that measurement is transferred to the individual post, do you then cut off the end of the post?
in this case the adjustment is made at the top of the post (top of story pole) where the truss is going to sit, he purposely left the center 2x6 loose in the post, he cuts on that mark(top of story pole) and nails it back in place. hope that makes sense. I think he shows this step in one of the videos. It;s because he is using a bench mark(or grade mark) so if he didn't have a grade mark you find the lowest bracket and use that as your grade mark and like you said cut off the bottom of the post's that were higher than the grade mark(lowest point), there are just several ways you can do this but his way is better because he has several elevations to deal with on that story pole, I think this would have been less confusing to everyone if all the brackets would have been set at the same elevation, hope I didn't confuse you...lol
Is this the new project that we will be seeing later on?
All the brackets were level with each other? For that to work it seems they would have to be.
What happens if all your piers aren’t the same off grade? Are you starting with one certain pier?
Is there a common dimension that the piers are placed apart?
So is the inch and three eighths only for that one bracket? Does each bracket have a different measurement?
Yes
Exactly.
Hello, how about second end? How do You align the hight where truses goes? I mean if at the begining they are the same lenght, and You left some of them shorter, some of them longer.
IF you seen the first video of each series you would know why he cuts some shorter/longer.
every truss is set 16' from grade....or the reference mark the laser told us..... that 1 3/8" measurement is the distance added to the 16' wall to make sure every truss is exactly the same height
RR Buildings now it's clear, thanks!
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RR Buildings thank u
How are you leveling to height of your trusses
This way seems different than how you explain in more recent videos
so it has consistent markings and can used over and over? i have this weird little block of steel tape i use for the same thing hhaahah
for real though marking every post out ahead of time can save well over an hour in putting them up
Just wondering how the Deresta barn is looking right now....
Could you also please put your stickers on the page where we buy your products. I'm a sticker collector like you and I really want one of yours.
Stickers come with all products
I'd like to hear a few more tool reviews. And be brutally honest about them like AvE. Since you clearly have no loyalty to any one brand.
Johnny Badfinger yes I plan on doing more
Do you pre drill all your metal? How do you do that for the roof and walls.
If I'm not mistaken they punch the metal with a center punch so the screws are all in the same line but they do not drill the metal.
Nicholas White multiple sheets at one time?
Yeah, I think he stacks them up and punches hard on the top one and it transfers through the majority of the stack. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what he was doing in a previous video.
hey
First let me say I love your channel, the accent, the directness, the awesomeness of building a 128' shed as you call it, the huge wide open spaces, everything. But I almost completely do not understand your explanation of a story pole. First, I assume, and as I have seen from your videos, that the 13/8" measurement is different for each brace, so how can one story pole be used for multiple cuts? Remember when the little league coach told you to go out to right field and when he saw you with your back turned, he yelled, turn around, and the kid turned all the way around. That is who you might be dealing with--so, i politely request, another story pole video and do not leave anything out, anything. Much obliged,
Did you have a red hammer on your side?
Ok. So how does one utilize this method without a laser level?
620 + vs 0-...... Seem like we all like these.
perfect....thanks