Building a Large Staircase and How to Layout a Stair Stringer
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- In this video of building a large staircase, I show you how I layout a stringer. It's simple math and if you use the right tools, it is quite easy. There are also some other tips and techniques I show while laying out the stringers, so check it out and share with a friend. You never know when you need to build a large staircase right?
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I know it may not be super fancy, but I think the insight or tips I share should be able to help you build any stair case. I've never done a curved stair...maybe that could be next. Anyone have a good resource for that?
cool vid as always. Let me know when your hiring. Ill come relearn the last 20 years hahah... carpentry bymar on insta has done some crazy stairs.
Mar is a good dude for sure.
@@RRBuildings for sure.
Kyle you mentioned not liking a solid outside beam because of dust getting in the cracks couldn't you trace the stringer onto a solid beam then use a router and remove 10mm of the stair shape to notch and seat it over the top. Just get a slightly larger height so you don't see the height difference in the two timbers and use a concave scotia trim or quad to neaten them up.
Awesome video man. God i wish i had that mega saw for cutting stringers 😂 it would have saved me months of my life at this point cutting individual. Great video though! Cool to see something a little different. Love the channel and what you do. That caulking gun seems to work real well...may have to pick one up
When you screwed those strings together my first thought was "there's no way he's doing that with a handsaw, surly!". Then you whip out the biggest skillie I've ever seen 😂😂
Probably the best Ryan’s th-cam.com/users/postUgkxGZedDTcDfgD7fG_uU4esfx_EgxzlY2_1 Plans on building a shed is hardly ever found. And Ryan takes the mystery out of different types of foundation options, etc. He even shows how to build a shed with different designs. Very comprehensive, covering different roofing materials, siding, etc.
really hope those people up north appreciate this level of detail b/c we are missing a lot of this down south, hard to find someone who takes pride in their work like this.
He's not within any code I follow.
WE LOVE WATCHING PROS, THEY MAKE EVERYTHING LOOK EASY, BUT YOU'RE STILL THE MAN TO CALL...A JOB PERFECTLY DONE!!*
Love how you're all about the PPE a lot of contractors don't care about that stuff, worked 2 years for a contractor never once wore hearing protection, I'm 23 years old with hearing loss and constant tinnitus. Keep up the cool videos👍
Huh
@@jasonking2943 PPE, Personal Protective Equipment. Work gloves, safety googles/glasses, respirators, back braces, ear plugs, etc. They really help protect yourself from the wear and tear of the job.
In that person's case, they didn't wear ear plugs when they worked, so they damaged their hearing and suffer greatly for it.
Wear your ear protection guys, I can't stress it enough! I'm 73 yrs old with severe tinitus, caused by loud and continuous sounds! I now have to take peroxatine to keep the depression at bay! Ron
@@loisgustafson4522 i I hear you bro i have hearing loss and t, but that doesn't mean I can't protect what I have left👂
@@loisgustafson4522 also check out neuroplasticity for (t) that might help you
I've cut plenty of stringers but I've never thought to work out and mark the diagonal, I'm definitely doing that from now on. Legend.
Hi.bro very good out lay but you didn't say how you got the lenth oft the stronger to be shore
Finally !!!! Somebody who adds that up !!! The absolute most accurate and best way to mark it out !!!! Thank you !!! Calc it out !! Perfection !! Well done !! I’ve watched so many videos on stairs and nobody does this !! That square is awesome !!
Square is bad ass
"2020 is shaping up to be a good year"... missed that one by a country mile.
Jajaja .he must be. A Trumpist... they live in a different world. With all due respect! Hey 2021 is looking like a good year...
@@bel.sat.9051 must be a bidenist then if you think 2021 is going to get better. They live in a different world
@@nothingforyouhere418 Yet Miraculously it is already marginally better
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@@bel.sat.9051 Politics aside, you decide how your year will go nobody else. If you work smart and hard, you will have success, if you don't then you won't. What does President Trump have to do with your life, if he passes a bill to cut taxes or raise taxes, makes no difference if you are successfull. It would make sense though that a democrat would feel out of control and victimized by things happening in the world and thus blame their failures on the president and "the year" being bad.
What you are trying to avoid is “Cumulative Error”! And the perfect remedy is a story pole and your Const Pro Calculator?
Gary Catz has a wonderful piece of this at “This is Carpentry TIC”
Kyle he suggest dropping on riser from the top to meet IRC “Code” and avoid cumulative error!
You would truly enjoy it Kyle!
Why?
Like me and Mr Catz, plus you and thousands of your viewers we hv a Bad Case of COCD????
Carpenter Obsessive Compulsive Disorder🥴
I really enjoy watching and learning from you! Keep it up Kyle!
Gary is a great dude
I stumbled across Gary's video a few months ago, been laying out my stairs this way since and it's great to teach apprentices this way so they can avoid mistakes.
Yes; I am a finish/furniture guy (more cabinets) however there is a common trait I see in each of you;
My Dad included who was a custom home builder?
You men are obsessive about doing a good job and using great tools!
Does not matter one bit if you were building for a millionaire or the average Joe your gonna do the best job you can!
I appreciate that!
I like the fact that you check the stringer using the diagonals at 6:20. A quicker way to use your calculator would be to enter 12-7/16" , then press + then every time you press = , it will automatically add another 12-7/16" . This method eliminates the possibility of entering the wrong value at some point
Though he didn’t verbally say it, that’s what he did after the second calculation… he simply hit the equal button.
From the journeyman electrician world, much respect to the carpenters. I will be entering y’all’s field very soon.
FINALLY an explanation that doesn't skip over the little things that can happen!
Excellent! I love the check at 7:48. It actually uses the hypotenuse of the of the rise and run. Very impressed.
I always use a 10.5” run which ends in a 3/4” nosing. I like how that looks, which just goes to show it is all about personal preference!
I like using the diagonal method of stringer layout first. Once those lines are scribed the tread and riser lines can be done. Like you said, it reduces the error that can happen when scribing from step to step. Thanks for showing that!
We built a deck late this summer, and we watched a LOT of videos about laying out stair stringers. We struggled a bit, but eventually got it right. I wish this video had been available then! This is by far the best explanation of laying out stair stringers that I've seen! The Diagonal tip is brilliant!
Glad to hear that!!
I love this video, I have been in construction a longtime. I have done concrete stairs and some wood stairs. I love the tools you have. You remind me of myself, always need the good tools and tight, strong work. Love the education brother. Great Job
Thank you!! I’m a DIY guy and building stair stringers has always intimidated me. I’m about to take on a pretty big project similar to what you were working on there and with this video I’m pretty sure I can do this.
I'm going to do the same exact thing out in my shop. And I'm just like you, intimidated by the thought. This is a nice, well made video.
You're the man. I've learned so much from your videos already. No nonsense attitude and you love to work and it shows. You work effectively and you've save me much time already. Keep it up.
This guy is awesome! I grew up building houses with my father and you would never get free info like this guy just gave everyone. God bless
Your use of math is the best way to get the overall length. Every time the square is used, an error is introduced. Good work.
No views, No likes, No comments. Always impressed by the fancy tools you have to increase your accuracy and speed like that square for the stringers.
Cameron Graham do you have videos that way we can see it.
An Artist, an Artisan. Statutory Fiduciary Quality.
Marking your diagonals is a great tip to make sure you don't get slightly off when running your layout with the framing square. Good job!
One thing you need to be carful of when using the construction master calculator for compounding measurments like stair stringers or balusters is that you have the resolution set to either 1 /32 or 1/64th. Default is 1/16 and that can get you in trouble building long stairs. Your measurments were only off by a 64th per riser so not that big a deal in 110 inches of overall rise but its always a good thing to check so you dont wind up being 3/4" off on your last rise.
How do you calibrate that?
On the phone app ..Cm5,
Tap the gear icon in the lower right corner. Under “display settings “ tap “fractional resolution” and choose between 1/16, 1/32 or 1/64.
Not sure how to change the resolution on the actual hardware calculator you buy at the store.
Hope that helps.
Just remember if you're doing a more traditional stringer install that is not flush to the top of landing you must always deduct two dimensions:. Tread thickness off the bottom of stringer and riser material thickness off top tread width. Good job on the video!
Best stair layout video on TH-cam. Big thanks 🙏
RR you just killed it...unfortunately you have frogs croaking after the fact. Very impressive!
Very well done!
I was lucky as a young boy my dad was a union carpenter and he tought me how to make stairs and many other skills of a carpenter. I get great satisfaction when I build structures as well as seeing the projects my dad worked on.
Keep up the great work and God bless you and your family.
that's awesome!
Right on! Great video and could'nt of come at a better time. I'm making a video tomorrow on this and will definitely be stealing some of your moves. I'll shout you out though lol thanks for the time you put into this one. I subbed
Man that’s a bad ass circular Saw right there.
Good job. Not everyone built the stairs in that perfect way. Thanks for show me in this subject. 👍
When you do the rise and run in the calculator just press the (+) key once then the (= )key (the first time) then just hit the equals key to get the the following diagonals. The calculator keeps the decimal number in memory
learn something new everyday....thanks!!
Or keep pressing stair and it gives u alot of useful answere
Love ur safety squints!!!! 😂🤣
The plumber in your area seems to have the perfection bug like you do !! Thumbs up.
The plumber is my clients son and yes he cares about his work for sure
@@RRBuildings I was admiring the plumbing :)
Very nice staircase too and some very handy tips :)
I knew Canelo was not going to make it in boxing. Very good at framing!
I couldn’t help but laugh when you said “2020 is shaping up to be a good year.” But seriously, thank you for the video. It was excellent.
Only thing I would change being a framer of 12 years is, do not use 90 degree strong tie brackets to secure the top of the stringers. Always use pressure blocks especially when you never fastened the bottom to the floor. Stairs work as a wedge but if there is nothing stopping the outward slide on bottom , they will give.
I too used to make the same mistake to taking the 1" 1/2 off the bottom tread. Also do not forget to take the thickness of your kick plate off the back of the top riser or your top tread will not hang over far enough
🌲🍀🌲 @Willis Cooper
I appreciate the comments you added to this. This is a project that doesn't require many yrs of experience, but the young man is so used to his method of stair building, he may not realize he's not explaining each "step" (no pun intended.) Even where to glue and what sort of glue to use.
In following a how-to video, we should always watch others to make sure that finished project has everything we want...like a bottom plate fastened to the concrete floor? As I envisioned the stairs in our 2-story garage, that seemed like a good idea.
Watching several of these videos should cover every feature we need help with!! Thanks to all!!🙂
Hell yeah man. Exactly how I learned, no compound errors.
PROFESIONAL!!GRACIAS!!TAINO RD🇩🇴.
You need be a carpentry teacher , in my ten years of framing, I've never seen that trick . Good on ya guys !!
Welcome to the future, he is teaching carpentry to thousands of people.
Your ears would only be ringing in bed at night from the constant cheek and trash talk coming from Greg through the day 😎
very true
Thank you very much. Flipping the square edge was very helpful and the 1.5 from it. Now I understand. We are using composite decking and it’s only 1” thick so I subtracted 1” and it came out right. First timer. Thanks again
I understand the subtraction from the first step so it comes out to 7 3/8s, but then wouldn't the next steps come out to be 8 7/8 because of the 1 1/2 of the 2x12, I'm so confused in that part lol
Nice job. I watched this video with my grandson. Not exactly the staircase I wanted to show him, but it served the purpose.
“2020’s shaping up to be a great year”.... the only mistake I found in the video.
And then along came pysop 19...😬
Made this video so essential craftsman didn’t have to redo his video 😂
I missed it.. I should watch his?
RR Buildings long story short he messed up the measurement, he was disappointed mainly because of how much time it took to record everything in such detail and he realized he made a minor error that caused it to be against code, I believe a bit too steep of stairs. Good lesson learning video for sure.
Dylan Elder For a home gamer it was fine, but his building codes thought differently. EC is a very humble guy though and admitted his mistake
Larry Haun still beats them all!
@@lovetimothyrandall Larry Haun's stuff is great. Just don't follow his advice to overcut the stringers. :)
Nice to see a Real pro Thanks for all the Great videos!
I should have gone into the trades, this is all a lot easier then I thought before watching this
Great job. But...
Don't get glue on the pipes. Put a sleeve of cardboard around that protrudes top and bottom. Cut the hole big enough to let the stairs and the piping move without breaking. IE. 13/8" pipe diameter plus 1/2" is 17/8" hole saw. The stair glue will weaken the pipe and that's where it will break.
20:24
"2020 is shaping to be a good year"
2020: No.
I specifically came here to see who all mentioned how 2020 is ACTUALLY shaping up... haha
Brian Covert Me too! Lol
Yeah that didn’t age well 😏
I came and posted the same thing, though I will note that the construction industry has been slammed busy across the country all year, so as far as construction goes, he wasn't that far off. But for the rest... not so much.
Good job, Sir, very kind way of teaching.
They say old carpenters won’t be able to hear their grandkids bc of all the noise from a career in construction, love that you invested I solid ear protection, and it looks like your safety squints saved your eyes this time,
It looks like a nice heavy duty staircase but it's always important to leave the final top-step the actual floor, that way hand rail will make it to post in one piece
Thats exactly what i was going to post. Other than that it was done correctly. But top step should never be flush with subfloor.
Plus you do not want any chance of tripping over the lip from floor to tread.
Awesome Vid RR Buildings. Really appreciate the time and effort you put into making these videos.I've been watching your channel for a year or two now, and you and the crew have worked on some pretty cool project's.
Your work is stellar and i love the fact you set a standard, and do everything within your power to raise the bar even higher.
Over the years you have. Very admirable.
As a Shopfitter / Joiner / Cabinet Maker both residential and commercial i never will do what you do , but i especially enjoy the lesson's tips and tricks offered in this video of yours and the like.
As the season of giving is upon us , i want to say a Big Thanks and may you and the Boy's have a well deserved rest and a blessed festive season.
Thanks a bunch rusty. I know how hard it was when I started... no one was there showing me. I hope these videos help others
@@RRBuildings I'm sure you know, but there's a HUGE market for people who do the job RIGHT, not just cheap. We all have to deal with cheaply made crap made with crummy materials. To have someone come out and say "yeah, I'm not the cheapest, and I won't use bad materials to pad my pocket, and I'll make sure the job is done to a HIGHER standard than even _you_ expect"? Smaller market of customers who may be willing to pay for that, but that person will always be successful. Thanks for stubbornly sticking with quality when the rest of the world seems to be racing to the bottom. It inspires people to be better.
"2020 IS SHAPING UP TO BE A GOOD YEAR" THAT REMARK DIDN'T AGE TOO WELL LOL! BEAUTIFUL JOB ON THE STAIRS, I LEARNED A LOT.
10:00 “I’ll make sure to keep my safety squints on” 😂
“Safety squints” 😂🤣😂🤣
Shane
AVE would be proud!
waiting on the key-orntact! when the beam saw started
Safety squints is when you reckon, "I've got two eyes, so if I shut both of them a little, I'll probably have at least one of them left after doing this." We've all been there!
If you use Stair Gauges, clamp them on the inside of the square so you can see the run dimension.
Brilliant ..Thank you....you make it look so easy. Still with the right tools even I, a complete amateur, having seen your video, can now take on building my own stairs. Thanks for the really great clear video. Next I have to convert my attic into habital space....At the moment it's only rafters under the roof tiles.
I'm sure the battery-powered caulk gun is more efficient, but I still take a chuckle at it. I must admit this guy is good, I've learned a few things.
I replaced my cellar stairs a bunch of years ago. I researched for a week and bought all my material and went at it. The old stair height was like 8 1/2" so I lowered the new stairs to 7". Built 3 stringers and all went well EXCEPT I didnt account for the ceiling height. so the 3 or 4th step you have to limbo under. LOL . Its like 5' high OOPPPSSSSS
The top step and pipe cut were my fav parts
Excellent craftsmanship!!!..top notch quality!!!
20:24 " 2020 is shaping up to be a good year " sikeeeee 😂
"2020 is shaping up to be a good year" haha
Groetjes uit Holland 👋🏼👋🏼
TOP job. Het ziet er goed uit!!✅👌👍
BEAUTIFUL WORK, as ALWAYS. 💪🏽
"2020 is shaping up to be a good year." - Technically, for the construction industry that was a true statement, but in general, it's been a terrible year.
Great video Kyle . Love doing stairs , just like hand framing rafters for a roof , I feel like that’s where true craftsman comes to work . I’ve seen a lot of wrong stairs put together & rafters for that matter but just like any job the more you do it the more natural it becomes .👌🏻oh ya I’m loving my Martinez framing square ! You are a 💯 on the stops being deep enough so they don’t skid off rounded edges .. I hated the old bent squares with the brass buttons.. pure garbage 😂 loving your work bro 👊🏻
Good for you Andy!! It’s a killer tool
This new ‘stair square’ is definitely an improvement but I wouldn’t go as far as to say the old brass buttons are ‘pure garbage’. C’mon man..
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psidvicious ok maybe the buttons are garbage but they really aren’t that good . Ive been using them for years until I got my Martinez this past summer . Thing is they don’t stay tight on squares or when the squares accidentally fall of the saw horses & the buttons go flying , now you spend time finding it or go to the truck & get new ones . Plus the wood these days is garbage. Barked up edges or rounded edges from the factory those brass buttons do not work or at least give you true accuracy but maybe people don’t care idk .. but if anyone has been on a job site then you know what I’m talking about . I’m glad these companies like Martinez are making quality tools that will last forever or at least a long time & that fact they know exactly what us the trades need in our tools
@@andyvetter8672 Absolutely agree. Simply tightening the buttons with your fingers is inadequate. I always used to cinch them down tight with the pair of pliers I carried in my bags anyway (or a Leatherman). And, you do have to be careful if the plank you’re laying out has an edge with bad wane.
- I don’t even want to think about how much that ‘stair square’ costs though. Didn’t he say it was titanium? Why not just make it out of aluminum?? The weight of aluminum vs titanium just isn’t a deal breaker for me. 🤷♂️
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psidvicious yes it is titanium & very expensive but you get what you pay for brother 👊🏻
You made that look too easy. I did indeed enjoy the way you explained it all. Very easy way about you. Hey, I'll bet you could do that for a living. Frankly, it was excellent!!!
your pride in workmanship is fantastic.
Wish you were in Ontario Canada. God Bless ... J
I've been wanting one of those squares since I started watching your channel; however, they have not been available. Any idea if he will start making them again?
There are the links in the description below the vid
@@langsankulay3048 I can’t find the link for the square you’re using
I would like one too, with the stair gauge clamps, much better than the octagon "nuts".
The old saw dust to fill the gap trick this place here in New York that builds mobile homes will throw some caulk and saw dust in a 10 foot hole to fill the gap 😭
@@ThisAdventureFamily Deleted video.
I liked your presentation style, straight into the job without mindless waffle.
Just seeing this video. Fits tight. Grk and Spax... really hold things together. The grk vinyl window screws for level adjustment are my favorite.
There are plenty of free construction calculators online, some specifically for stairs, that are just as good as a paid calculator.
Any recommandations? Plz~
Re: Essential craftsman
Should be @👍
Lmao, Hes a good guy but cmon those stringers were fuuuucked they looked steep from a mile away,
Great video. Old school guys notch out the bottom of the stringer (where it meets the floor) and add a 2x4 to bolt the stairs to the floor.
Great video! I am a 39+ year exp. lead carpenter/ project supervisor in N.Y. and after viewing your video I just wanted to comment that you have an excellent stair layout understanding , fabrication and building process. Great to see someone your age with the skillset you have. I myself basically and always used for years the same layout, cutting ,framing techniques you do . I have a feeling you had a great teacher but taught yourself a little along the way as i did.We all learn something new everyday. Years ago i had a dead calculator and had to use good old Math, pencil and paper and carry decimals. I'm sure you can also and convert those to fractions. Smartphone apps and construction calculators save a lot of time but its important to be able to do it old school, Nowadays i cant even get a newly hired "EXPERIENCED CARPENTER" approximaty your age my company sends to my project to layout a stringer for a deck 3-4 feet off the ground. THEY look clueless when i ask them if they ever heard of the pythagoroem theorum. Any way im subscribing and keep up the great work, Great to see the younger guys with a great skills! and knowing their going to only get better with age.
"Toolmaster Kyle"
Didn't know Canelo Alvarez was a carpenter.
JAJAJAJAJA JAJAJAJAJA
Hahahahaha this guy really looks like Canelo, great carpenter
Very nice to watch. I don't know how to build anything but I've always been interested in how to build a staircase.
Man, what a saw! Jesus what be proud. Great carpenter!
I thought when cut the bottom of the stringers you were going to add a piece of 2x across the bottom to anchor them to the floor. Is the strand board the final floor?
We called it a "kicker", used to be code around where I live, maybe it still is.
yeah we did it as well.....anchor it to cement and cut notch in all stringers and it cant slide away from structure
Good call, that is very important to do , otherwise you are just relying on those nails at the top.
Dionis Herrera I think he liquid nails the bottom to the concrete
Likely doesn't want to anchor anything in the floor due to the infloor heating system. Could be glued or get the fire department out to find the pipes with their thermal camera.
Anyone have a link to the framing square?
Thank you! Extreme respect and appreciation for you showing how to build anything!!!
El Canelo Alvarez is getting really good with his English and his framing skills 😳 👏
Oh men I didn’t know canelo Álvarez knew how to build houses
That's the reason I began to look at the comments. I knew someone had already noticed the crazy resemblance between him and Canelo Álvarez. 😂
@@rodrigofuentes6777 jajajaja si se parecen
Qwertyuiop Asdfghjklñ Canelo Alvarez meets Blake Griffin
I'm not even in any type of construction, but I always like watching your videos because you don't talk down to people. You do an excellent job teaching, and I've used some of your instructions to complete home improvement projects. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
That’s amazing feedback Justin I appreciate that
I like the instructions and yours stood out. I'm about to attempt to build some stairs up to a loaf with nothing but a ladder to get up there, right now, so thanks again.
i have being watching many of your teachings i have build 6 houses no in capetown SA thank youfor your teachings
I need that framing square so bad. Could you please send me one for Xmas?? 😜
My brain hurts from all these imperial sizes
He is just a mathematical genius.
I cut my staircase with my new sasquatch. Worked out way better than any others I've built! Thanks for the tips and vids man you're an inspiration
Always love the How-to videos! Keep 'em Comin' 👍
"heighT" does not end in a thorn.
"that's not a circular saw...THIS is a circular saw!"
lol
Good video. You can omit the top tread by using the 2nd floor as the top step; the stringers die into the floor joists. This reduces the overall length of the stringers, and it saves space on the first floor by reducing the total run, and it saves one step tread, too.
Always take the thickness of your treads off the floor cut (not always 1.5 in).. A sq + B sq = C sq (Pythagorean theorem) for cut out hypotenuse length. Rises 6 - 8 inch, and Treds 10 - 12 inch. Must have a minimum of 3.5 inches from back of stringer to cut stringer mouth for a 2 x 4 strong back (sister) if needed. Can't have more than 13 steps in a straight run. Don't normally see stairs the same hight as landings (attach them to rim joists with stringer cleats) it prevents falls from people. Always crown up. Back screws into treds from risers and glue in that area is great. A cleat on the floor and stringers cut around it for the middle stringers is nice to prevent the staircase from sinking. That saw is AWESOME!