Accuracy on Your Next Project: The Secret of the STORY POLE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2022
- This is how you can be the most accurate possible on your next project using a story pole. Using a story pole will also allow you to be the most efficient and consistent as well. You can use a story pole in more than just building a post frame like I am in this video. Use a story pole for any project that has repetitious tasks.
Let me know down below in the comments how you have used a story pole before, or if you've never heard of one until now, what will you use this method on next.
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Please do a "masterclass" on all the ways you cut metal trim! Having all those cuts demonstrated in one place would be really helpful.
I wholeheartedly agree!
I’m an electrician and I made a story pole which I have switch height, receptacle height, dryer height etc. It has survived 20 years!
Kyle the close up shots in your videos while you are working is super helpful. I agree, a focused video on all the metal cutting would be awesome. Thanks man, great work!
Every time I watch your videos of you in some beautiful country building something awesome while sharing your knowledge with us, I become more appreciative of freedom.
Thank you Kyle, Greg, and team, your content is always great.
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I wanted to give a big thanks to your channel. I'm a remodeler/deck builder currently doing my second barn thanks to you!
I am fully impressed! It’s just a complete th-cam.com/users/postUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!
I am perfect - perfectly happy watching you and Greg work :)
Great content. I’m sure I’ll use this when I build my shop in a few years. Good instructions and visuals.
Always helpful information that makes any job easier. Thank you for your creative ideas.
Hey blokes! I've been watching you guys for a number of years now, I have used some of your techniques building my shed and have a few more I want to try when my house build comes round. I think I may have even taught my builder a thing or two! Thanks for putting the effort into making this content available for all, you do a great job with the videos but mostly I'm jealous of the accuracy and consistency you get across the build. Cheers!
I finally understand how your post measuring works. thank you
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Oh yeah, this is a great tutorial. I've heard of these but now I understand better. Thank you. And I'd have to echo some of the other comments.....I know your time is valuable but seeing more of how you make your trim cuts would be fantastic!
Kyle, this is exactly what I needed to see. I'm just about to start building a 24x48 post frame barn on my property. I am stealing a lot of your techniques and approaches. This is one that I'm stealing. Thanks much!
Great job you guys ,the story won’t lie to you .
Man that picture perfect background. I feel at peace just watching yall work with such a picturesque scene. Perfection.
I made a story pole based off its use in a video a few years ago from you. Marking up all the sheeting, it was a godsend and you can see it when you look at that perfectly straight bead of screws, up, down, and diagonal on the building. Putting up most of the sheeting myself, it was a complete no-brainer. I've used them also for marking insulator locations on my 3-wire pasture fence. Excellent results!
What a beautiful landscape view 😮
You're a good instructor.
Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.
Brilliant marking jig... love it...
This is very helpful. Thank you
Very instructional. Thanks!
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excellent video. we call ours the “BIG DADDY” pole, it gets a laugh everytime. y’all build an excellent building. thanks!
Great info! Any time you can remove wasted repetition is time saved!
Great video.
I've seen you talk about this before. I know what a story pile is but with your numbers of the post being low or high . Didn't catch how you converted it ,but got it this time. Slick as banana peels!
I’ve never heard of “a story pole.”
I make jigs in the shop for small things, but this is a little more detailed. This isn’t just for accurate length, but it also marks everything you need for the whole job
Very useful information on the use of a story pole. I discovered the story pole through watching Larry Haun's videos many years ago. A simple tool & concept yet it holds the building dimensions together!
I think some people are missing it @ 1:17 where you elude to getting the relative heights of the column bases utilizing the rotary laser. That determines the highest/lowest base relative to the fixed laser position. Weather looks nice out there! I would love to have that shop space.
Tubafour and Tubasix! Larry Haun is a legend
Thanks great info
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Story time!!!! Kyle gives us a great detailed evaluation of what a story pole. Had no idea what a story pole was. Also kyle when is the giveaway announcement we all have been waiting. #Storypole!!!
Story poles make your life easier cuz when set up correctly save you time and energy cuz have to climb up and down a 🪜 less. I was a foreman for years for various companies and I used a "story poles" and pre-cut all my lumber cuz I built on layout, might be slower to see results at first but I would bet anyone that I could compare labor hours and accuracy and squareness against anyone's building. Keep up the good work and learn a lot from you all, don't build barns anymore but still appreciate the information.
Hey Kyle, really enjoying this shorter, more detailed series. Regarding story poles though, I was really hoping to see more of what is on your story pole for a regular post frame. I know you said you 'can' put window and door heights on them but do you? Since those generally are between posts, I don't see how they would help you laying those posts out. How would you later use that story pole to add your windows in or your walk doors?? Maybe the top of a garage door would make sense though?? Any other marks that are specific to post frames?? Anyway, enjoying what you do share! Thanks!
Dude! I mostly do decks and roofs, but I think your videos are interesting, even helpful at times as there can be a bit cross over on the knowledge you have with post frames to the kind of projects I do.
I learned about a story pole a few years ago while helping a friend put 8” Smartside on a house, but I figured I’d watch this particular video anyway because you have interesting takes on things and I appreciate your sense of humor.
About 2 minutes in, this got me thinking- why don’t I use one of these for a deck layout? Most decks I build are 16’ or 20’ in with. Then I thought, maybe I’ll make a story pole from two 10’ 2x4s so I don’t have to have a long one hanging out the back of the truck or trailer all the time. Then I thought- why don’t I just get a 50’ tape measure and use different colored permanent markers to make marks for both the 16’ and 20’ layouts with a single and double picture frame?
I’m totally doing that and will be able to use it on the project tomorrow since we’re going to start framing then. Like you said, it won’t just save time in the long run, but reduce the likelihood for goof ups.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
👍 thank you
That's beautifullll
When I worked in a joinery shop were we made a lot of wooden windows the same size we used a story pole were we draw the heads sills the sash frames in elevation and plan view allowed us to make the frames and the sashes at the same time with the correct clearances Every thing fitted properly with no mistakes
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The plus or minus numbers would be helpful on the story pole as well then flush or square story pole to ends.
look at that new DB pouch. I saw that in the background of one of their videos a while back.
Thanks, you should write a book!!
Thanks! now when does the RR buildings book series come out....oh oh and the sold out seminars
Physicists (and presumably others) talk about 'accuracy' vs. 'precision', and the difference gets to the heart of your point at the end of your video. Accuracy refers to how close something is to the actual value, while precision refers to how closely you are able to measure something repeatedly.
So in essence you are saying that precision can be of greater value than accuracy, and that makes a lot of sense.
Agree
Not a bad system, I personally would shim or pack brackets to a laser level. Would save having to cut every post to an individual different measurement
Have you ever tried using the fastcap story-pole tape measure? Not sure if would help you on your applications, but I know for me it has been a huge help to have access to a story-pole right on my tape measure.
@12:03 I wonder if adding a simpson tie connector to turn the story pole into a string of speed squares would speed it up? Just lay the story pole and you'll have a built-in speed square to draw the line.
"up to go down"
OK i do some basic carpentry, as I am an Electrician by trade. For your application here you have to be precise. Does the ends of the board almost never being a 90 degrees affect the use of the pole I know it's minute however, over the course of 20' that can be a difference? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I've been doing electrical for 32+ years I like the idea of the story pole for drilling wire height.
Wait, no tour on the barndo?
Wow! 72 x 92 would seem like an aircraft hanger when empty.
What do you do with the story post when you are done? Integrate it into the building? Maybe have it hidden, but accessible, so if anyone makes additions, they can use it easily for the same measurements...?
How you know What bracket to start with
Great video. Greg won
You should have built Millennial Farmer's and Diesel Creek's sheds!
How do you decide between 2x8 and 2x6 posts?
If all things are fairly consistant couldn't you subtract material from the high point and be quicker?
“Height,” not “heighth” bro
You’re constantly teaching me, figured I’d switch it up one time
I’m good if I’m within 5” for accuracy and I’m happy.
I'm a layman so my question may sound ignorant. Why not use the lowest foundation bracket and set it at zero? Easier to cut off material than to add a shim of sorts it seems.
I've used a story pole a number of times, saved a ton of time. Just curious, does Gregg get 'listen to the boss' pay?
Greg is the luckiest guy ever! Hardly has to work hard haha
Similar to a "template" or a jig.
Maybe I understand incorrectly, but it looked like you were adding/subtracting the necessary length at the end of the rafters. If so, wouldn't that cause your rafters to be at different heights?
They are adding the difference in height to the ends of the columns. It compensates for the differences in elevation of the brackets allowing all the trusses to be at the exact same elevation.
What is the advantage of doing +5/16 from highest rather than -5/16 from lowest? ie longest column is whatever your "normal" height would be rather than shortest as you are doing it.. If that makes any sense at all.
If you did minus then you would have the cut all the post that are less than the benchmark.
How’d you determine what the highest bracket was? Technique?
Use the rotary laser to get a height reading on each. Use the highest as 0, after that notate the drop on all of the others. Use that drop as the adjustment amount so that all of the truss heights are the same.
@@jackammann2088 awesome. That makes sense. Appreciate it
So, a story pole is basically a template?
I call it a template. 👍😁
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@Kyle My first experience with a story pole I happened to call it a "story pole", I didn't know everyone called it that! The PCB fab I worked for had multiple machines/desk come in and needed to be set up ASAP. The working benches and inspection benches need to be set for the workers input/machine output at their respective heights. Everything had non standard adjustments, so my story pole idea saved the company days and literally $100k in lost revenue! As an engineer, effective/efficient work is the smartest way to work.
I just wonder if you mark all the truss points, line them up, mark the girts on the closest and furthest, then just run a straight edge to mark the lines, should save time in going back and individually squaring like greg did at the end.
I see a story pols as an advantage when you're going round a building rather than when all the posts are grouped together.
Drink every time he says “story pole” 😂
I'M SOLD! But I searched your online shop for story pole and couldn't buy one....
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When I use a story pole, everything ends up consistently off... 🤣
Thank you for the video, very helpful!
Question: if you make a post longer by 5/16ths in some spots, then you set your story pole down on the bracket next to the post won't all your marks be off?
You set your reference relative to some mark. So in your scenario the master line on your story pole (say 18' like in the video) if measured from a +5/16ths bracket would actually be hovering 5/16ths above the bracket. Think of the story pole like a template and that once you line up point A (whatever you set as your master point) all the other points can be derived relative to that point without re-measuring. Hopefully this wasn't MORE confusing lmao
No, Kyle’s reference points is the top of the post, at the truss where everything has to be one plane. The story pole is set from that reference point, and the bottom off the column just hangs long or short relative to the end of the story pole.
Greg won for sure
talk about.....the weather. lol
How many times does Kyle say story pole?
that's what he is talking about
@@daveklein2826 thanks for clearing that up for me.......
@@bpjr3870 I totally understand that you are SLOW so no problem
@@daveklein2826 I understand that you don't understand I was asking a question and being funny keep your arrogant comments to yourself and move along
@@bpjr3870 I still understand that you are very slow
Nobody is perfect?
Well, I'm nobody.
How do you find zero?
They go around to each bracket and take a reading, and use the highest bracket as zero.
@@bpdp379 so then the set the level on the stick to zero and use that other thing to shoot the laser to it? If that’s it, I think I understand now.
@@bryanfontaine9627 on my laser yes. His is so fancy it automatically tell you how low or high you are. Very slick and fast but expensive.
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It's nice to see that this story isn't woke :P