Peter Windsor: Piastri is a NIGHTMARE for Lando Norris!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2025
- In this interview with @peterwindsor we discuss George Russell's drive at the Belgian GP and whether this was Russell's vindication and proof that he can be an F1 world champion in the future. Was he unlucky to be disqualified and was it Mercedes fault why his car was underweight? How Peter Windsor feels about Carlos Sainz' contract with Williams and whether the Spanish F1 driver is right to have clauses that would allow him to drive for Red Bull or Mercedes should the opportunity arise. Why is Lando Norris struggling so much, and is he better than his young team mate Oscar Piastri? Is Lando hurting his chances of becoming a champion by being so negative and why are his starts so bad? Did McLaren make a mistake in signing Oscar Piastri in the first place? What would Peter Windsor do with Checo Perez after his underperformance this season and who would he replace him with? How much do finances and sponsorship money come into play in Christian Horner making a decision on whether to keep or sack Sergio Checo Perez? We discuss whether Daniel Ricciardo or Liam Lawson is most likely to replace Perez.
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I'm putting my money on Oscar. Oscar feels he has to prove he is faster than Norris since that Hungarian fiasco. Landon is mentally in the shadow of Max. Oscar has the quiet killer instinct. Landon criticized Lewis he won because He had fastest car 7 years ago, and yet he has the fastest car now and he can't win races. That is killing his racing mentality " I can't beat Max even in a faster car ". Oscar is growing, gaining confidence and will get faster.
@@gpw203 Red Bull is not the overall dominant car right now, what are you on about? I'm genuinely confused how anyone can actually believe that the RB car is dominant right now.
@@gpw203 Before maybe, but other teams have upgraded their cars and have caught up to Red Bull.
I agree but still want to see Oscar beating Norris regularly in Qualifying, Race and FPs then I can say he is faster. Regarding Norris I guess bow he understands how difficult it is to win even wirh faster car. Yes Max has a more dominant car but how Norris loses positioning the first lap does bot help. In my opinion he lost the momentum to increase his confidence and take the fight to Max this year. 2nd place is open between Ham, Norris and probably Oscar at the moment
Completely agree. This reminds me of Lewis’ rookie years, all Alonso could think about was Lewis. Lando is starting to resemble the self sabotage characteristics of Alonso. Oscar seems more mission oriented without the drama of Max and Lando.
@@gpw203 I disagree, Why, McLaren under Dennis had no 1 or two driver and they won both drivers and Constructors championships Mercedes did not have a one and two with rosberg and Hamilton and they won drivers and constructive championships. That thing can't win championships without having a number one driver is historically, not true.
If Oscar keeps improving on the same trajectory, Lando is cooked.
@@matt355 Lando is already cooked.... well done. He just doesn't know it yet.
Well done
I love Oscar demeanor always. Wet, rain or sunshine always balanced.
Exactly
@@kandaboy3026 Oscar is Thanos, inevitable.
He’s an Aussie. Laid-back and easygoing is their typical demeanor.
@@jtwilliams721 lol. So what happened to Mark Webber. Multi 21. Very laid back eh
Best smile after Ric and Albon. Very chill fellas.
For most of this season Lando has had all the upgrades and Oscar has been in the old spec. The last 3 races they’ve been in equal gear. No one talks about that.
He only had an inferior car in Miami though? So you're just waffling nonsense
Total nonsense. They had 1 race difference. But facts don’t feed into the narrative
Race after race lando got the upgrades. It all adds up.
@@jasonlay9492 erm no. They had a half spec difference in Miami since then they’ve had exactly the same. Let’s not run with a narrative that’s total garbage and false
@@stephaniecampbell6119 exactly, pre Miami lando constantly received upgrades then Piastri would get them the next round. Still Piastri performed admirably without upgrades.
if mclaren didnt sign piastri they wouldnt be in the WCC hunt at all
Whinging Poms as ever. The "Annoying" Australian. Whatever. Piastri is a rising star and if Blando can't stand the heat, he should get out of the kitchen. This rule Britannia mentality is anachronistic twaddle. Oh, poor Lando got a team mate that is quicker. How unfair. Really ? And yeah, it's social medias fault. They all have socials it's part of the contract. This is the 2024, not 1984. What a lot of snivelling irrelevant drivel. Piastri is an actual champion.
I’d take your point seriously if you didn’t resort to pathetic name calling like blando 🙄
@@stephaniecampbell6119 Fair Point. I went too far with a spur of the moment jab. I apologise. Thanks for acknowledging I have a fair point to make. When on the receiving end of this constant looking down the nose in so many subtle, and not so subtle ways, It really gets on the nerves.
@@michaeliacono2595 thanks for replying and taking it in the spirit it was meant. Too many of these comment sections are crazy right now. For me they are two brilliant drivers who will be well matched. The constant this one is better no this one is better is grating. At the end of the day McLaren have only had this type of car since mid 2023. Both drivers are delivering. Those that are saying oh Lando didn’t do this in his first two season is just mind blowing. You can’t compare as the cars were completely different. I’m actually going to stop watching Peter as his takes are wild. To be fair I think im going to stay away from f1 TH-cam in general over the brake as on the basis of 2 races it’s shit on Lando month and to me I’m like McLaren have two incredible drivers. How it all shakes out no one knows but it doesn’t need the nastiness that’s going on. That’s not aimed at you for clarity.
George P7. To p1 due to Lewis pit stop. No passing. No battles. Just sail on by stealth. Lewis was.immaculate in his driving g. So was Oscar.
The best drivers over the last 4 races is Oscar and Lewis who both scored 80 points. Both max and oscar are on roughly the same points over the last 7 races. The first 7 races will possibly cost oscar a wdc this year. Ask Toto, Helmut and Horner who they would want out of Lando and Oscar and i'm pretty certain they would want oscar. Number 1 driver is earned on track, not in a contract.
George is a good driver but will never be great. Most drivers would have done what he did by staying out with the one-stop. He was thinking about himself and not the team. Oscar was threatening the 1-2. George would have sacrificed Lewis in order to have even a sniff of a chance of winning. The team should have told Lewis earlier what George was up to and he would have pressured George more once he had caught up with him!
With all of the information the strategists had, why did they not change Oscar's race to a one-stop? What are they paid for? Consider the following:
- Oscar got the fastest lap just prior to pitting
- Oscar said "Clean air is king" meaning being in front was a winning strategy
- He was 5.6 seconds ahead of George and pulling away when he was pitted
- It was clearly very difficult to overtake, especially with the shortened DRS
- Tyre degradation on the hard was clearly minimal on the new surface
- He was 15 seconds ahead of Lewis with 14 laps to go
- They knew George was going to a one-stop strategy
The McLaren strategists had all of this information, yet they pitted Oscar and put him back into 4th place 14 seconds behind George and gave up an almost certain win. I was convinced Oscar would stay out, and I was absolutely shocked when they brought him in. So I ask again, what are the strategists paid for if they have access to all this data yet seem unable to make the right decisions? Oscar must be growing tired of their mistakes.
@@Surfsaus exactly
@@simonmiller5118 Ferrari Sainz first run on Hards was ONLY 20 Laps that's why. They figured the tired deterioration would be about that.
@@RodneyMorse-b2z That was a different stage of the race with a full fuel load. Add 50 percent. The Ferraris also had less downforce and therefore chewed tyres more in sector 2.
Piastri will be WC before Norris will
Norris ego will be crushed, and he won't recover from that!
Without a doubt. There is far greater chance of Norris coming out than him being WC.
I'd bet on it.
100% that will be the case
Norris is too emotional as opposed to Piastri who is stone cold!
Lando is a good driver, make no mistake. Very quick and has a bright future. But it’s apparent to me already that Oscar’s ceiling is far higher. Lando seems to have a chip on his shoulder that he just can’t shake. Whether it’s to do with Max or his own team he doesn’t have that killer instinct that the elite drivers have. Something tells me that Oscar possesses that despite his young age.
said this after Bahrain 2023 after Oscar's first interview. This guy is class.
After what he did in F3 and F2 in consecutive years, it was clear that he was a generational talent like Max, Alonso and Hamilton.
@@JohnFromAccounting I wonder what Max could've done in F2 in 2015. That season vandoorne basically destroyed the field, but other than him and Gasly (who finished 8th) none made it to F1.
I see Peter is still continuing with his rubbish about the Hungarian Grand Prix. Yes McLaren made the mistake, but the mistake they made was giving Lando Norris the undercut twice over his teammate who was absolutely leaving him in his dust in the first two stents. It’s only because they gave Lando the undercut twice that he was anywhere near Oscar in that race, therefore they issued team orders to properly correct positions. You would think with all of his experience Peter would know that by now.
The problem is Oscar isn't english.
So Peter you believe that Lando should not have a fast teammate So he can falsely believe he is the fastest. That's are JOKE !!! Norris needs to become mentally strong and do what Ros did, teammate to Ham. Do what it takes and believe your the best. Pastri is a champ in his own mind, Lando doesn't. Peter believes in babying drivers. Senna would think " I don't care who my teammate is. I'm going to beat them " Mansell as well.
When Sergio gets dropped why don’t we ask Max if he wants piastri as his new team mate?
The main driver shit is silly, teams should want 2 guns in the seats
Oscar is the real deal
Lost a lot of respect for Peters analysis and opinions recently. The way he gushes over Lando and George whilst disregarding Piastri and Hamilton and others is astounding
What I don't understand is this need to suggest Oscar is a driver to "beat", rather than Oscar having No. 1 driver and WDC potential in his own right that also deserves to be supported. Like he's just one of Nigel Mansell's "very fast teammates" that will be forgotten with time because Nigel trounced them, because the team cast them aside to fully back Nigel. I also don't understand this sole focus on Lando like he's the only driver worth supporting in the team, or suggestions that they should forget about Oscar to prop up Lando at every opportunity and that Oscar's career and races should be sacrificed despite him only being 1 and a half years into his F1 career and showing this level of skill and potential already. Even the suggestion that McLaren shouldn't have signed Piastri because he's too good and might upset Pete's Golden Boy is beyond ridiculous. McLaren have two Number 1 drivers now and Oscar is making an excellent case for himself. To say anything else is not only silly, it's clear irrational bias.
Couldn't of said it better myself, who is surprised that Oscar has hit the ground running has not been paying attention to what he did in Formula Renault, F3 and F2, not to mention his good technical ability to work with his engineers to setup his cars. I heard this on a podcast that his Prema team director said they still used his setup after he left (before the new cars came in).
Oh my... so hard for British folks to even consider that a non-brit might be better than a Brit, right?
Sorry but even as a Norris fan (more than a Piastri fan), if I was forced at gun point to just pick one, I'd pick the younger one, Piastri, and Hungary to be honest pretty much spelled it out.
Even more galling is that a driver from the (penal) colonies is better. LOL.
Windsor is an Aussie
@@b-eezy2727 quite clearly he favours British drivers. Gushes in fact.
@@b-eezy2727 Born in the UK (1952) but raised in Sydney, Australia.
@@supercededman I always laugh how British people call us Aussies criminals and convicts. They’re only insulting themselves, how is it that convicts managed to build a nicer country than Britain 😂
Peter overlooked Lewis and Oscar for the last two races now.
Peter is such a Lando Fando he is blinded. Does he not realise that at the moment McLaren is more focused on the constructor's WC? Oscar is making that a real possibility.
Based on Peter's logic he would have taken Rene Arnoux over Alain Prost back in the early Renault days.
Oh, and BTW Peter, the fans love Oscar because of his understated way of going about his business. Does he not see this?
@@simonmiller5118 Peter Windsor is a wanker and just likes the sound of his own voice without any thought in what he is saying
@@simonmiller5118honestly if Lando has maximized his chances until Hungary he'd have been within 20 points of Max. I think McLaren.would've made the swap then.
But yea Peter is into a lof of nonsense recently. Not giving driver penalties gor engine changes? Ok, so now RB can just stick Perez on 4 engines for the season and put it at 95% performance, and give Max 5 extra?
@@daarom3472 recently? He's been full of nonsense for years. Even before 2021, but 2021 is when he really became known for his drivel takes and plain bias. He's not speaking from a place of expertise.
Peter is becoming so Anti - Oscar. Blaming him for Lando making mistakes, seriously!
You arent looking at things objectively unless the negative comments are towards norris and in line with your opinions
Try to listen again and comprehend the English language lol. He is actually complementing Oscar in that convo.
He’s pretty pro british in his bias. Thats pretty par for the course
lol he's a Pom, what else would you expect 🤣
@@ray.shoesmith Brundle is pretty unbiased in my opinion
Peter Windsor has shown again and again he has lost all objectivity when it comes to Lando Norris. He just can't take off his Lando colored glasses. He has stated more than once McLaren should've overlooked Piastri as Piastri would unsettle Norris, as has happened. So McLaren should pass up the opportunity to sign potentially the fastest drivers just to make sure that their incumbent driver remains happy. Ridiculous. Norris is a 6 season veteran, yet in only a season and a half Piastri has shown himself to be everything McLaren had hoped for. McLaren insisting on Lando giving the lead back in to Oscar in Hungary proves this. All of Formula 1 can cee this, except Peter Windsor.
You could be right but when almost every world champion of the grid says just how good Lando is and how good his touch is it is hard to cause Peter of not being objective. Peter has also repeatedly said how incredibly good Oscar is and how quick he is. What he was talking about was and is team dynamics. Mercedes is a good case study, old master Schumacher bringing on young gun Nico, works well, Nico and Lewis no so good. Lewis and Valterri good enough to win multiple constructors without unsettling the number 1 driver. Lewis and George was ok at first but Lewis going to Ferrari might be as much about George winging his spurs and usurping the old master. I think all
Peter was saying is that McLaren don’t need the problem that they are going to have.
Peter has often said Lando has longer corners, why not then volunteer to point it out to him
@@rupertmiller4718 there's no question Lando is quick. However, Oscar has come along and in quite a short time frame has exposed Lando's weaknesses. Everyone on and around the grid has noticed this, except for one Peter Windsor, and also most of the British press. Peter Windsor seems to be insisting McLaren prioritise Lando as number 1, even though all the evidence points to Oscar very soon usurping Lando. For evidence of Windsor's overwhelming Lando bias just watch his unhinged emotional rant he released on TH-cam after the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Bless Peter, he genuinely thinks these lads spend all day on social media, rather than paying an entire team of people to do it for them.
Oscar is sleeping most of the time in his spare time he loves it 😆
What? If the car was carrying an advantage, it is correct to disqualify that car since he raced in an unequal car to the rest of the field.
I think the best thing McLaren did was to sign Piastri because it was a mental fortitude litmus test for Lando which we are seeing the results of now. Champions can not be wrapped in cotton indefinitely.
Exactly, but Peter thinks Maclaren signing Oscar was a mistake...
Oscar gets into the car as a relaxed driver because he probably has just woken up he's the only driver apart from Kimi Raikkonen that I know of that could have a nap before a race😂
Peter describes the driver that he thinks Lando should become without realizing that he is actually describing Oscar Piastri. And what's the real reason that McClaren swapped them back at Hungry? Because they suspect that Oscar will surpass Lando and don't want to pee Oscar off. That's what's really going on.
That was actually my thought too.
A intern who worked at mclaren has revealed behind closed doors the team has never really rated lando that highly. NDA ended.
An intern wouldn’t get that kind of info. And if they don’t rate him why have they just signed him in even longer 🙄
@@stephaniecampbell6119 because he's still a good driver
They screwed over Oscar with the pitstop very badly in Silverstone, and then again in Hungary. There's a serious risk that he moves to another team if McLaren doesn't give him fair treatment. McLaren needs to keep him because he will surpass Lando.
BUT:
IF George's car's weight loss was due to the one-stop tire strategy, THEN that strategy was BAD, right?
Very good point. I never thought of that
If your strategy results in a disqualification, losing the team a one two finish, it was indeed a bad call.
@@b-eezy2727the only reason the 1-2 was on, is because of the 1 stop. Otherwise george wouldnt be top 3. This means your logic is flawed.
It was a gamble either way.
No, the strategy was good. He still ended up winning the race afterall as opposed to getting a P5. The team just didn't account for the weight difference the tyre wear would cause.
Even if Russell did pass one driver on track,he still was not outstanding as some pundits described his race .
The outstanding drivers on the day was Oscar and Lewis.
Russell and Mercedes had planned this strategy after Lewis out qualified him, so it was no surprise he asked for a one stopper.
Peter trying to give Russell some support when all that is happening is Mercedes going out of they way to help Russell....look at all the events with Russell qualifying and race day .
To b fair Lewis is not really a quali driver, he is known for gaining places during race day.
Russell, what is he called Mr Saturday?, We know who can preserve tires better on race day.
@@gpw2030/10 rage bait. Hamilton got shafted by his own team and didn’t complain once 😂
George's strategies usually go wrong! He relies too much on luck!!
@@gpw203 Russell has no brain
Oscar started 5th..he made up 2 places finishing 3..good drive but to say outstanding is really over the top in whats was expected to be the fastest dry weather car. Certainly red bull had wet weather pace but their dry weather practice race pace showed they didnt have pace.The same in practice race pace showed the Papaya were going to be fastest.
Wait, in the post race interview Hamilton, said he discussed a one stop with the team during a strategy session and they decided against it. For Lando always disrespecting Lewis, I guess it's not just about having a fast car.
So they did for Russel. Russel decided during his first stint to go for a one-stopper.
Wait, didn't he also say once he was sabotaged?
Exactly. Every time he said that they still told him to box. It would piss me off too
@@Ron_Realfind the footage
@@blakkpanterIf the one stop didn't work,Lewis would've lost the race. So it was more risky for Lewis to take that gamble.
Oscar style is very similar to max and lewis he is going to be great but need some time
Wot!? Their driving and demeanour could not be further apart. Send me your weed supplier.
@@sturod2016 pay attention to Max's lines and Oscars lines....
Peter sounds like he has almost jumped ship to Oscar's side compared to how he has spoken about him other time's where he seemed to sound like he didn't go much on him.
Actually I take that back. Because I think that Oscar is probably pissing Peter off because he probably see's that Oscar is becoming a faster and better driver than Lando
Piastri was close to winning Monaco, Silverstone and Spa. If he wasn't left out to dry in Silverstone, he genuinely could have won because his pace was better than Lando. Meanwhile, Lando has thrown away wins in Austria, Hungary and potentially Spa by having awful starts or making juvenile moves.
I think if Oscar was British his take would be a lot different
And another thing on Hungry. Peter says that Lando extended his lead over Oscar near the end with the conclusion that Lando must be a better driver. What really happened is that Lando smashed his tyres to do it and against team rules. Oscar fell back because he followed team rules to conserve his tyres.
Yeah and once oscar got past he pulled away to 2s in last few laps
Hmmm if you see the pictures of the tyres st the end landos were in much better shape than Oscar’s 🙄
@@stephaniecampbell6119 that's not tyre wear but tyre pick up. Oscar picked up tyre marbles on the slow down lap. Drivers do that so the car is not under the minimum weight.
What people also don’t realise is Lando had a 3.8 second lead at sector 2 on Oscars OUTLAP. Everyone seems to think Lando pulled a 6 second lead like they started next to eachother, he bloody passed Oscar at full speed whilst Oscar was just exiting pit lane.
Their average lap times were 0.036 seconds different, they both pulled essentially the exact same lead on eachother in clean air
Surely Peter is taking the piss when he says he would take lando over oscar if he had to choose one. Oscar is already better than lando after 36 races and oscar is nowhere near the end product. I think Pete is pissed off that mclaren signed a better driver than lando. How dare McLaren want to improve. Lando has to beat Oscar regardless whether Oscar drives for McLaren or another team. The fact he's in the same team is irrelevent. Lando has shown that he doesnt have the mental stength to compete with oscar, lewis and max. I think the problem that zak is gonna have with oscar is that he will leave to where the best car is when he's out of contract, unless the best car is at mclaren. The only thing thst can stop that is max getting there first.
Oscar will do to Lando what he did to everyone else. He'll grind him down mentally until he beats him. He looks innocent, but he's an ice cool metronome who just won't stop.
Peter’s comment will not age well is my guess. For any Terminator 2 fans out there, here is my take “Watching Oscar with his machine, it was suddenly so clear. The Terminator would never stop, it would never leave Lando and the other drivers alone... it would always be there. While it would never hurt Lando, never shout at him or get drunk and hit him, or say it couldn't spend time with him because of team orders, it was there to win. Of all the would-be Zak recruits who came and went over the years, this thing, this machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.”
@@seanjermy2692 good perspective there mate 👍
@@Surfsaus Oscar will do to Lando what Max did to Daniel in Red Bull
Peter is pretty out of touch with most of his takes here. And generally lately.
I put my faith in Oscar Piastri back when he was supposed to drive for Alpine and he refused. Said I'll sit out a year if I have to I'll drive for McLaren or not.
That showed me his confidence in himself as a person as well as the hot new guy. Lando on the other hand doesn't have that selfish, me first attitude that is required to be WDC. Lando should NEVER have given that win to Oscar, NEVER. They are now tied for wins with one each, with time Oscar will out score Lando, and good luck then. Lando was too loyal to MaLaren when they sucked. He should have gotten Bottas' Merc. seat or the second Red bull instead of Perez.
George always likes to stay out and hope for a SC strategy in his desperation to beat Lewis and yesterday was no different, he did it in Hungary too at the detriment of letting Perez undercut him and many races before.
George wasn’t going to win anyway on a normal strategy. Why not try something different? He knew, like all the other drivers, that track position was key, and that’s why he wanted to try the one stop. It was very difficult to overtake.
Lewis also wanted to do the one stop…
When Lewis wants to try an alternate strategy, he does so because he believes it’s a good opportunity, but when George does it, he does it out of desperation to beat Lewis?
@@Real_ghostboi You new here? George does everything in his power to be ahead of Lewis.
@@oransjball Isn’t that what he is supposed to do? Or should George do everything in his power to finish behind Lewis?
@@Real_ghostboi Hello Esteban Ocon
Edit: oops
@@Real_ghostboi lewis wanted to do the one stop because he believed it to be the fastest, georges agenda is obvious.
Oscar will force the issue and become #1
@@gpw203 huh? Rat boy?
@@gpw203Charming.
@@gpw203 then you are possibly the dumbest wanker known to watch F1 and you are gonna have to stop watching if you don’t want him to win a world title . Let me guess your a Pommy who wakes up every morning and brushes his teeth with a Lando penis shaped tooth brush with Lando hiss flavoured tooth paste and washes it down with landos penis milk ahahaha your a full blown looser buddy and should keep your stupid comments to yourself as you are making a dog shit look smart
Oscar will do to Lando what Max did to Daniel
@@gpw203 pull landos penis out your mouth and grow up your drinking far to much Lando jizz it’s made you delusional
You really have to wonder about this analysis. Lewis was faster, screwed by strategy. A few more laps and Oscar may have beaten them both because Merc wanted George to win.
Huh... last I checked it was Hamilton rhat was the best at managing tires. Also, as I remember George Russell was no where close to LH'S ability to manage tires.
@@genkideguire
Yes
All a sudden we are being gas lit that George is a tire whisper..!!
Lol..
He is a fast driver, but No way or was never a master at management of tires.
His under weight car and preference for top speed vs down force at spa is what helped him get victory….
Plus George had nothing to lose, so the one stop made sense.
But insinuating George is great tire manager is absolute BS.
And it was lewis who taught him the tyres during his Williams stint.
Imagine 1 race and you are the tyre whisperer. Lewis has dozens of hair raising examples.
If lando can't handle piastri, he can't handle being a world champ
The challenge is that Piastri is starting to look like a modern Alain Prost or Niki Lauda, very calm, very methodical and very good at playing the McLaren team game.
I’m a big fan of Oscar piastri l like his demeanour very calm let’s his driving do the talking Lando Norris his behaviour is almost childish and I really think he thinks that McLaren owe him to be number 1 driver but as we know nothing is a given
George didn't lose that win, he never got it. Significant difference.
Merc cheated that day and as an F1 team, you don't make an "honest mistake" of 1.5 kilograms when you spend millions to shave off a few grams. They got found out and faced the consequences. Just for those Merc fans who keep on yelling about Red Bull cheating a couple of years ago. And to the same people who diss Max for complaining, let me remind you: "Lewis, just drive the car!". It is part of racing, it's part of the sport.
Now let's move on to the next race, I think it's going to get more and more exciting as the season progresses. McLaren have the fastest car right now and the driver pairing with the greatest potential. Red Bull are essentially a 1-man team and nobody can seriously deny Max' incredible talent and skill. I think Oscar will be his main competitor in the coming years.
@@gpw203 Lol you need to re-think your life. As I said, in F1 there is no "honest mistake" of 1.5 kilograms. They intentionally cheated after qualy by leaving too much fuel in the tank to meet the requirements.
And this wasn't even the first time they cheated, remember the plank thickness violation in 2023. No, Merc are just as bad as any other team in F1 when it comes to attempting to cheat. If RUS' drive had been legal, he would not have finished first. Far from it.
What a nonsense, did you forget every car gets weighted after the race. Mercedes is not that stupid
@@John-oo9xu OBVIOUSLY they are! They broke the rules, so they cheated. Prove me wrong.
@@gpw203 Lol, you are so delusional. Of course they cheated, their car was underweight! That doesn't just happen as an "honest mistake". If you think so you know absolutely nothing about F1. Merc DID have the rule book thrown at them and rightfully so. Of course you think that you know better than anyone and thank f*ck you are not anyone relevant to F1.
@@Arsenic71I agree with you. Mercedes left just enough fuel for the car to be at the minimum weight. That's not a coincidence.
In Hungary from the initial start Lando weaved hard right to well, bluff?, Oscar out of road against the barrier. No wonder Oscar thought, ok Mate, I'm down the inside and sending you wide. Why? If you give your drivers the incentive that whoever leads after the first turn gets preference then you had better get your freaking starts down.
I could be wrong but I think when they called him into the pits, Lewis said "but the tyres are good" ... so he did ask to extend the tyres
Correct, right from the opening of this video you know Windsor is a liar who's just giving 'spin'.
@@achakhakan4189 Yeah, I'm really disappointed with Peter, and Cameron for letting him say nonsense the entire episode. This was one of the worst episodes they've ever done. Peter just kept making up nonsense, I don't know that he even watched the race.
Yes, he did say that.
Yeah there's no ways that piastri is another bottas, that boy is there too slaughter.
Hes probably next in line if u take age into account that has the verstappen gene if you will. So amped to see how oscor develops. 😊
Surely you can’t say signing Oscar is a mistake 😂. That has to be absurd. It’s abundantly clear that Lando doesn’t have what it takes to win a WDC. He isn’t mentally tough enough. Guess who, after 1.5 seasons has already shown he has the mental toughness, Oscar…
Lando is equal to piastri this season next season it will be a different storie .piastri is the better driver overall
Before the interview I thought Peter was just being an Englishman, favoring Lando as he does.. .. but after the interview, I think he just doesn't like Australian racers, because they're just too damn good.......
Peter Windsor is Australian. I don’t know what that says exactly about his biases, but I just thought you should know.
@@MechanicalSculptor Yes indeed, born a pom, brought up in Sydney and from age 17 been in England though resides now in Spain.. .. very intelligent and great to listen too, very much a worldly man.. .. with a bias for Lando, as all poms do,.. lol
@@Randomly971 Do you know that Peter is Australian an not English?
Don't let the accent fool you , he bleeds for mother Brittan
@@MechanicalSculptor he wasnt born here he is just a bloody imposter an Aussie wanna be at best he was born in England and should go back their
GR and Tyre life? He always runs off at the start and then gets passed by Lewis cos he's tyres drop off 😂 i always giggle when Lewis doesn't chase after him cos i know why
Plus piastri couldnt catch up to Lewis until george held him up so even the bad pitstop made no difference
He's literally known as a tyre whisperer
Of course, Oscar want to be a champion this year as well so he will do everything to beat his teamate. It's Lando's worst nightmare. He will take points from Lando against Max for sure.
Russell passed one car.
Nah he passed about 18. Just not in the right direction. Still an amazing drive
Free air and one stop.
illegal car, literally
What is your point? Did we watch the same race? NOBODY did a lot of overtaking this GP. Most trackpositions were gained on pitstop strategies
And cheated lol
Sorry Peter, but you can absolutely blame Mercedes for screwing over Hamilton. Lewis told them that his tyres were fine, and he said they could go to the end. Then when they let George stay out, Lewis should have been told immediately, that's ALL on Mercedes. Lewis had no clue that George was staying out, Bono NEVER said anything until Lewis caught George with 4 laps to go. Lewis would have pushed 15 laps earlier if he'd known and he'd caught George much earlier and been able to get by him. Mercedes continues to sabotage Lewis, and karma got them, fk em.
Interesting to hear the opinion of someone I almost entirely disagree with
I must have missed the fact that Lando has been at Macca since 2019. 5 1/2 years and new upstart Piastri after only 1 1/2 seasons is already in Lando’s head. What occurred turn 1 in Hungry was just hard racing. No one except Windsor complained about that. Lando needs to get his head down, not so publicly castigate himself. It’s good to be self-critical but so openly in public? Every other driver and indeed team boss see Lando’s openness as weakness. The whole Hungry radio fiasco just showed that Lando is confused if to be ruthless like a Vettel or M Schumacher or play the team game. Windsor says Macca big mistake was signing Piastri, and should have kept Danny Ric. Could the reason why Macca signed Piastri be that they are not completely sold on Lando being a future world champ?
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things Lando should've done:
1. Keep the position.
2. When asked about it: "I want to be a WDC so I needed the points, you can all &#+@ off". Also next time Oscar comes down on the inside I will cause a collission.
That's what Max would've done.
It’s only in the last year McLaren have had a top car. Before that Lando was driving a midfield car at best. Let’s not rewrite history
@@stephaniecampbell6119 McLaren was the 3rd fastest in 2021.
Max also drove the 3rd or 2nd fastest car yet the minute he had a good car he racked up wins and beat LH.
Russell was running 5th and had nothing to lose. Hamilton was running 1st and had a race to lose. But in the end the miscalculation is that 1 stop equals illegal car.
Piastri is great. The comments disparaging Lando ignore that McLaren have a very strong driver lineup. Both are good and form is probably a bigger factor than skill
The fact that both drivers are young will mean mistakes are part of the deal as well, it's how they learn from those errors which will dictate where each ends up. It's all to play for from Lando and Oscar for now.
Lando Norris is probably going through a phase similar to Sergio Perez's last year. They both believed they could become world champions and somehow lost focus, making small but costly mistakes. Oscar Piastri, on the other hand, has kept his cool and is taking it race by race. He will deal with the opportunity to become a world champion when and if it arrives, but not before.
I agree, Piastri has that F1 world champion mentality.
His overtakes in Spa were really brave. He's not scared of anyone.
@@JohnFromAccounting indeed that overtake on Charles was majestic as was Charles holding his line and being fair, what a F1 moment from two amazing drivers.
OP81 has a quiet determination. He is steely. Lando has a soft centre and will never be WDC unfortunately that's the reality.
These interviews with Peter Windsor are the best decision you ever made
Peter must take all the credit. He's the GOAT!
This ☝🏼 Absolutely 💯
Lewis Hamilton had the likes of Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso, and Nico Rosberg in the first half of his career. I see no issue with Lando Norris having Oscar Piastri as his teammate. Oscar will push Lando the hardest in being the best driver he can possibly be, but I do believe that Oscar is getting closer to Max and Lewis level of driving capabilities.
Sorry Peter, I would take Oscar hands down
Lando was screwing up and blaming himself long before Oscar showed up. And for people who want Mclaren to win, its great that Oscar is there, he is improving rapidly as a driver, both in speed and consistency. I don't see either Lando or Charles Leclerc ever being champion.. they are too inconsistent and error prone to be.
Lando is all talk and no action. Now he knows it takes more than a fast car to win a race as he is yet to convert a pole to a win even with a faster car.
This. This is all one needs to know about Lando.
All talk? He isnt exactly the bragging type….?
@gpw203 Only at Spa and Canada, and even that was debatable because Lando could have easily won Canada, and Spa could have been won by Oscar without the bad pitstop.
In general, Merc has been level with Red Bull since Silverstone and Mclaren a bit faster but they either bottled it with strategy or the weather made things interesting. Even the drivers have said Mclaren are the quickest currently.
What peter said at 6:50 about George’s side of the garage playing with fuel level. This makes you wonder why? Is it because George want every advantage that he can get or is it that he is worried about losing to Lewis.
Oscar now has a lower deficit to Lando than George versus Lewis. Oscar is catching up.
George won because his car was lighter.
His car didn’t follow the rules. He deserved to be disqualified.
They should have also disqualified Max after Abu Dhabi 2021.
AD21 was neither Max's nor RB's fault, go watch basketball
That 1.5Kg doesnt make any diffeence 😂
@@John-oo9xuif it doesn’t make a difference why not carry more weight to give margin and eliminate risk?
@@John-oo9xu It absolutely does.
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Why is peter so anti-oscar ?? Why shouldn't Oscar have the opportunity to drive a Maclaren ?? Why does lando hv to be protected from oscar?? If lando wants to beat max he should get some practice with Oscar. Then again at the rate that oscar is improving he may be Maclaren's best bet to win the driver's championship.
I don't believe that Peter Windsor just said that the driver shouldn't be disqualified in a car that ended up to be ILLEGAL. Does he understand what illegal means?
He's been going for the shock-jock approach in his last few videos. Some bizarre calls
What has happened to Peter? He's embarrassed himself with these terrible takes. Dude needs to retire already, he's acting like he's wearing diapers and falling asleep during the race.
Hahaha he's going for views like a tik tokker
That's not what he said. He stated he felt bad for the driver when it wasn't their fault. Their is an unfortunate edit that conflates Max's grid penalty for the additional engine with Russel's disqualification around 3.12 but he is not suggesting that the Mercedes should not have been disqualified. The follow-up question is about punishing drivers for extra engines/components etc and is unrelated. Might need to brush up on your comprehension skills.
Piastri and Carlos have a better mental than Norris and Charles. Lando and Charles are too sensitive.
WTF is a "better mental".... "mental" is a descriptive term... it's like saying I have a better athletic... FFS social media brain rot has made muppets out of the lot of you!
I don’t agree about lack of mental strength: neither Lando or Charles would be be as quick as they are if they lacked mental strength. Besides, that’s not an obvious conclusion to come to without more insight into their internal working process. If that observation is reported by someone close to either driver BTS then we could extrapolate from that.
It is an observable fact though that Oscar and Carlos appear to be more decisive without any cluttered thinking about what they want to do at key moments in a race.
@@Enzoblueblood ironically, I actually think a Oscar - Carlos team would be really good. They both prefer opposite car handling characteristics, but they're both very smart racers and Oscar could learn a lot from Carlos. I also think an Oscar - Charles duo would work really well because of their personalities and they have similar driving preferences.
Always thought Lewis was way better at tyre management than George, so I digress...
The tyre just never dropped off massively. Lewis had a lot of tyre at the end, but at the moment its almost impossible to follow the car in front.
Lewis literally said to Bono he could do a one stop, Bono kept pitting him and not listening. Then Bono knew George wasn't pitting again with 18 laps to go and didn't tell Lewis to increase his pace. Bono has lost all my respect. Glad Lewis is leaving this terrible team, they can have George's dumbass next year with a rookie, it'll be a disaster.
29:27 " Blowing away one of the best Drivers" Oscar is 32 points behind Norris. I wonder sometimes if Peter is watching the some sport as the rest of us.
Peter is totally wrong wbout the punishment for underweight cars. Following thay logic, whats stopping sauber from taking 50kg off their car to win a race? Theyre never gonna score a point anyway so they wont care about the points penalty and they can afford any fines
EXACTLY! PW seems to struggle with logic extensions.
FORGET hungry !!! Norris needs to go out and simply do what it takes to beat Piastri. PIASTRI you can see, is clearly trying to prove he doesn't need Norris to move over again. Forget about hungry and go out and prove you're the better driver TODAY !!!
Looking at the start of the race, Peter is absolutely right. Lando went too wide to avoid contact with Oscar, you could have fit 2/3 of a car inbetween them!
Lando is really good but he never had a car .....now he has a car but he has a teammate who is also really good .
I really think Pete is speaking far outside his wheelhouse now and his personal biases are very plain to see. Completely out of touch. He's just a Lando fanboy and that's all. He doesn't seem to understand that drivers have PR teams to handle their social media directly - very few drives do it themselves. In fact, Oscar is one of those drivers who handles his Twitter directly but even then he has a social media and he isn't on it all the time. He doesn't seem to realise that Lando isn't on social media all day and is constantly working back at the factory. And the way he talks about Lando and Oscar and Hungary and their relationship and dynamic is nothing more than just baseless personal speculation with a great deal of bias. The only reason Lando went wide in Hungary is because he tried defending against Oscar too hard for no reason - exactly the same thing he did against Max in Spain - and then left the door open for Max on the outside which he then had to suddenly cover. He wasn't trying to baby Piastri. In Spa he just misjudged the corner and went too wide.
Yeah I think there is something physically wrong too. McLaren have piled on upgrades and Lando is just plain bad on a cold start. But this has compiled to a psychological error. Lando finds pace late in the race. He's not ready when the lights go, and it's a serious problem now that's he's at the pointy end of the grid.
Justice and well deserved Lewis. No credit for injustice and the penalty is proof.
I'll just say, regarding Penalties, in the Belgiun case the weight of George Russel's car;
You can't pass the penalty to the constructor as Peter is suggesting.
Penalizing the driver placement punishes the whole team, and that has a powerful effect. Punishing the whole team will act as a powerful deterrent.
I do understand where Peter is coming from as it wasn't Georges fault, but .... at the end of the day George is just another member of the team.
F1 might not look it, but its one of the prime, if not the prime example of a team sport.
And to add ............... A brilliant interview, good questions, good answers, very enjoyable to listen to.
Lando will bow out at this rate. Oscar is on fire.
Piastri the new iceman on fire = the song of ice and fire
Give over he had a stinker by his standards in spa. Wow. Everything else this season was excellent. He got a podium in Australia and china before McLaren got the upgrade. Combo of bad strategies. And yes he needs to work on starts. Right now it’s pile on Lando as he’s closest just like it was pile on Charles in 22. Recency bias is mental
Remember when Crofty blamed video games for an entire race? Same feelings but it's Pete blaming social media for an hour.
Mercedes mislead Lewis by not making it clear what sneaky George was up to. Lewis was more concerned about Piastri. He was racing Piastri. George has no moral compass! A few seasons ago he smashed into Bottas and proceeded to blame Bottas. That incident was a clear example of George's psychie. Congratulations Lewis...105 wins and counting! Karma!
I find this quite funny only one week ago you were giving Piastri a hard time and saying his tire management and how he wasn’t as good as Lando and how Lando deserved the win you guys are amazing how much you change your mind just as well you two arnt racers you would be changing positions on the grid like a yo yo think you two need to stop talking rubbish about drivers and then praising them
Every time Peter Windsor and Cameron F1 are talking about the Norris-Piastri rivalry, Piastri seems to come off as the winner. The stop watch, however, says that Lando is slightly faster most of the time. We are still waiting for Mr. Windsor's prophecy to become reality. Also I seem to remember that it was Piquet who won a world championship when he and Mansell drove for the same team.
We knew how good Max is but listening to Peter and Cameron stipulates how special he is. One of the best drivers in F1 history.
True, he's even matched Hamilton with 2 wins out of the last 6 races, credit to him
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We will see how good Max is when he hasn’t got Newey designing his car for him.
Max is a gun but his attitude is shiet
Piastri is the best
Oscar's been in F1 for 1.5 years now and look at Lando, how many years? If he's this close with less than half the time of Lando... yeah Lando's had it.. Lol.
Putting Lando close to Max, Lewis and Alonso... not sure about that Peter..
Lando is going to be a #2 driver for all competitive teams. He just doesn't have the consistency in the mental department to be a consistent race winner
You and your psychology degrees.🥸
Wait, now RUS is a tyre whisperer !?!? 🤔
He is! Just mot as good as lewis
@@grospipo20 Fair enough!! 👍🏽
Lando is quick but chokes, Oscar is just as quick and doesn't choke..You can learn to be quicker around a corner, but you can't unlearn choking. When i watch F1 there's 2 drivers i worry about going off track thru every corner, Lando and Charles. If they are in a dice with another driver I fully expect them to go off track or make contact, ie choke. .
All drivers choke and Oscar choked in Belgium, by overstepping his pit stop it cost two seconds which could have had him nicking second place on Sunday. All young drivers can choke in moments, its how they come back from them which counts.
@@663lotty i like Lando, but he's 6 years in...no longer then boy wonder...and still choking the start of races again and again, it's happened to him all year. Some guys have a knack for winning, some guys have a talent for 1 hot lap. Lando and Charles are like loveable puppies Oscar is an assassin. Lando will have to go full Multi 21 if he wants to win a title. "we were racing, I was faster, I passed him, I won"
I've always felt that Lando could do with more maturity. It's odd that the younger of the pair seems so much more level headed.
George Russell is no "Tire Whisperer"! Where is this madness coming from. 🤔
I can see that there is a possibility that Oscar could end up finishing second in the championship this year because once he gets used to a car in the last half of the season he usually gets quicker like he did in the previous formula's
One of Oscar's strength's is his consistency, so you may be right
@@Jeckkz that's exactly how he won F2. Straight consistency. Rarely outside the points and then rarely outside the top 5, always in contention for a podium and often got a podium. Rarely made a mistake. Then when he got into the groove, had more confidence and got used to things more and got used to the other drivers around him fighting him tooth and nail, he was just banging it on pole, fastest lap and P1 race after race in the second half of the season. The level is much higher in F1 obviously, but I believe he will lift himself to the standard that's required and has been set by the top drivers around him.
Funny you’ve just described landos season 🤷🏻♀️
@@RockSolitude yeah that's what I think and hopefully he does 👍
Russell had nothing to lose--knowing if he pitted, he would finish the race 5th at best. Lewis performance was a masterclass, managing his tyres and keeping the gap by around 2 seconds. This was vintage Hamilton, overshadowed by Russell's one-stop!!
I liked your comment about the preparation for the start Peter. I recall the brief interaction between Lando and Martin Brundle just before the anthem and while he said he was excited, to me he looked somewhat disconnected or checked out. And his comment on Max reinforces the point others have made here that his focus on Verstappen is way too one dimensional.
I think posters are too quick to write off Lando. He’ll reset. But what do I know? Only that when pretty much everyone believed Daniel would “end” Lando (as Daniel himself declared) I put a large bet on Lando to outscore Daniel. I copped a lot of flak for that but thank you Lando for putting quite a few quid in my bank.😁
Peter talking complete nonsense and bs as usual. Saying 3 lbs doesnt make a difference. Lewis never asked about George he was asking about Piastri pace and the team could have told Lewis to push harder earlier like all the other teams told their drivers on the last stint. And mercerdes knew the car was illegal hence why they didnt empty out all the gas. Peter claimimg to know more about driving than pro F1 drivers is absolutely amazing stuff. what made the diffrence in overtaking was they changed when DRS was available.
Tire whisperer! Whatever! You execute that strategy against another team, not against your own teammate who did all the work to win the race. Say what you will about the "brilliance" of George Russell, but it looked sneaky and deceptive as usual. Ultimately the win went to the driver who earned it!
Lewis & Bono against everyone!
Its funny but as soon as the race ended I made a video saying the same thing. Merc was working against Lewis today.
@@blackrednek it's crazy! Lewis did the work into the first corner, hunted LeClerc down, controlled the pace, pit stops on point, hunted down Sainz before he pitted to retake the league and you mean to tell me the team allowed GR to swoop in and take the win. Make it make sense! Smh!
I'm sorry, why are we praising George? Lewis said the same exact thing and Mercedes wouldn't let him do a one stop. George was NOWHERE in that race, he had absolutely nothing to lose so he just stayed out because all he EVER thinks about is himself. Screw Mercedes, they continue to fk Lewis over, sick of this shit team.
The way Peter describes the way Max/Lewis etc. have that instinct to allow the car to sit square for a milisecond before turning, was exactly what I noticed with Senna when I was lucky enough to watch him at Silverstone many years ago. All the other drivers were hurling their cars in and out of the corners in a way that looked painful - even Nigel. But Senna was like silk. I'm sure that's how he did it.
And there it is! Didn't do it in his review, but Peter blames Oscar for Norris' off at turn 1 again!! Pathetic as usual.