It’s not quite like hitting a roof with a pecking hammer to show how a torch works though 🤣😂🤣. Love your content and ingenuity, that is aimed at both this creator and Make it Custom. This is one tool on my list for my projects.
Have you ever thought about doing a video like this with a thermal imaging camera? I'm really curious to see how the heat buildup and distribution would look during the process
I not only love your work. But your understanding of the metal. You’ve taught me, to think and feel the metal, and what it’s doing as a metallurgy level. Over the years, I’ve spent many hours learning and gaining understanding of metal and metallurgy. And your skills and techniques inspired me to do so. I’m very good now with hammer dolly and hand metal work, not just because of your videos, but all the education you’ve inspired me learn. Sadly, my welding is still not the greatest. But getting better. And I tend to work in metal, not aluminium.
I bought one on your recommendation. I can attest that they do indeed work. The learning curve for me was about 30 minutes on scrap metal. Used it on an old 30's car in the shop and sure enough, it smoothed the creases off much better than a hammer and dolly.
The mention of using the marker in one of your previous videos turned the corner for me on the effectiveness of the shrinking disc. It almost completely removed the galling problem.
@@proshaper This is good considering I have plans to separate my 87 chev truck hood outer skin and inner support structure and remove the dents and sunken front of hood damage from slamming it shut.
I used a ruffled type disc for at least 10 years then I came up with the idea of the smooth and safe edge shrinking disc. I much prefer the safety of use and results of the safe edge disc.
Will this work for an oil canned hood surface? The car is a Triumph Spitfire. So the fenders and hood are joined and lift up in one piece. Over the years of lifting from one side, the metal frame has distorted and the panel stretched like an oil can for about a square foot
Yes, that is where the shrinking disc really stars- low crown oil cans. I sell the shrinking king discs at my website. We have been making and selling them for over 20 years. I have 280 videos at my TH-cam channel home page.
@@proshaper great. Can you recommend a size angle grinder for it? I only have a slow rpm polisher in that size. I like the Makita you use in the video. Is variable speed worthwhile?
@AndrewBarry65 Home Depot sells the 9" Makita like I use. A polisher turns too slow. You need 4500- to 6500 no load rpm. That is the industrial standard for large angle grinder rpm no load.
And someone pls tell me the speed of grinder how much plus where to find Wray shrinking disc I try find and send Massege they not respond look like dose not work
Which size disk is this and what is it labeled on your website, I am interested. Also what is the best way to remove the paint to do this? I assume this is the 9" disk with backing pad. I have a more curved roof I want to apply this to, would you recommend the 9" or the 5"?
Hi Matt,Yes, you over shrink a panel. When you use a shrinking disc it is used to shrink excess metal. It is not used to take dents out. Almost always you have to use a slapper and dolly or s mobile planishing hammer to smooth an area out. After smoothing there might be some excess metal present, thar is what the shrinking disc does. In the case of the Alfa hood I was able to shrink the inside first and then the outside and that proved to work perfectly and very quickly. You have to understand there are two types of dents a arrangement dent, and a area dent. The arrangement dent is easy to fix that is what the Paintless Dent Repair guys fix. If a dent has metal stretching then it is a area dent, they take longer. I have several shrinking disc videos in my TH-cam channel showing how to remove a area dent.
Hey Ray do you have to be down to bear metal or can you shrink the metal with the paint still on the panel, I want to keep the paint and patina on the car????
@@gregcarnforth991 ok, thank you for the reply. I have some aluminum panels that aren't "dented", just wavy. I was going to try to shrink them with a torch, but they're thin. I'll try this method first
Why don't you just put the flange nut in with the shrinking disk? And also tell people to buy a stack of 7/8 ID flat washers? Otherwise your new customer gets the thing and says "how the f**k do I attach this to my 15 amp grinder???"
@@proshaper From Earth to Wray: They don't ship that big spacer with the Makita grinder any longer and without the flange nut you do not have a flush mount. Why do you want to make it so complicated???
Unreal ! Great demonstration! Nobody can argue a torch would do the same job saving a that panel.
It’s not quite like hitting a roof with a pecking hammer to show how a torch works though 🤣😂🤣. Love your content and ingenuity, that is aimed at both this creator and Make it Custom. This is one tool on my list for my projects.
Have you ever thought about doing a video like this with a thermal imaging camera? I'm really curious to see how the heat buildup and distribution would look during the process
I not only love your work. But your understanding of the metal. You’ve taught me, to think and feel the metal, and what it’s doing as a metallurgy level. Over the years, I’ve spent many hours learning and gaining understanding of metal and metallurgy. And your skills and techniques inspired me to do so. I’m very good now with hammer dolly and hand metal work, not just because of your videos, but all the education you’ve inspired me learn. Sadly, my welding is still not the greatest. But getting better. And I tend to work in metal, not aluminium.
Dale, great to read your comment.Thanks!
I bought one on your recommendation. I can attest that they do indeed work. The learning curve for me was about 30 minutes on scrap metal. Used it on an old 30's car in the shop and sure enough, it smoothed the creases off much better than a hammer and dolly.
The mention of using the marker in one of your previous videos turned the corner for me on the effectiveness of the shrinking disc. It almost completely removed the galling problem.
Never seen this disc before, very interested.
Wrays shrinking disc's are vodo magic I use mine all the time incredible results ..
coffee to hand ,, here we go
perfect , now looking forwards to the second part , the actual finishing of the job.
Great demonstration!!
ONLY 80 hours per week at a young 71 years. Wray has the grit (no pun intended) to keep on going down the road
Grazie.molle. Salta Argentina
Great video, would love to see more. What happened to the Scouts and the Cadillac?
I'm 71 and I only work 80 hrs a week, lots to do.
Hello Teacher
Does it work with luminum panels too?
Thanks
Greetings from Italy
Yes, but it scratches the surface. The scratches will sand out but there is a better way. Keep watching my videos. Thanks!
Will this process work without removing a roof skin? I have similar blasting issues.
does if have to be BOTH sides or can I just do one?
fantastic tutorial ! I'm inclined to think when you have finished bumping the small dings you will have to repeat the process ?
Hi Dan, I have several dent repair videos showing how I use the slapper dolly and follow up with the shrinking disc.
@@proshaper This is good considering I have plans to separate my 87 chev truck hood outer skin and inner support structure and remove the dents and sunken front of hood damage from slamming it shut.
If doing the bonnet we have to open the inside cover to do the shrinking? It’s so hard someone explain pls if you have experience
Wray, Apart from the safety aspect of your disks, how does the wrinkled disc compare with getting the job done?
I used a ruffled type disc for at least 10 years then I came up with the idea of the smooth and safe edge shrinking disc. I much prefer the safety of use and results of the safe edge disc.
Will this work for an oil canned hood surface? The car is a Triumph Spitfire. So the fenders and hood are joined and lift up in one piece. Over the years of lifting from one side, the metal frame has distorted and the panel stretched like an oil can for about a square foot
Yes, that is where the shrinking disc really stars- low crown oil cans. I sell the shrinking king discs at my website. We have been making and selling them for over 20 years. I have 280 videos at my TH-cam channel home page.
@@proshaper great. Can you recommend a size angle grinder for it? I only have a slow rpm polisher in that size. I like the Makita you use in the video. Is variable speed worthwhile?
@AndrewBarry65 Home Depot sells the 9" Makita like I use. A polisher turns too slow. You need 4500- to 6500 no load rpm. That is the industrial standard for large angle grinder rpm no load.
And someone pls tell me the speed of grinder how much plus where to find Wray shrinking disc I try find and send Massege they not respond look like dose not work
Which size disk is this and what is it labeled on your website, I am interested. Also what is the best way to remove the paint to do this? I assume this is the 9" disk with backing pad. I have a more curved roof I want to apply this to, would you recommend the 9" or the 5"?
Best to buy my combo with both the 9" and 5" www.proshaper.com Paint has to be removed with paint strippers.
The marker making as a lubricant. Cool. I would never have thought of that.
Would WD-40 work, as well?
No, too much. The marker works perfect.
Is it possible to over shrink a panel with a shrinking disc? Can you use a shrinking disc without access to the back side of the panel?
Hi Matt,Yes, you over shrink a panel. When you use a shrinking disc it is used to shrink excess metal. It is not used to take dents out. Almost always you have to use a slapper and dolly or s mobile planishing hammer to smooth an area out. After smoothing there might be some excess metal present, thar is what the shrinking disc does. In the case of the Alfa hood I was able to shrink the inside first and then the outside and that proved to work perfectly and very quickly. You have to understand there are two types of dents a arrangement dent, and a area dent. The arrangement dent is easy to fix that is what the Paintless Dent Repair guys fix. If a dent has metal stretching then it is a area dent, they take longer. I have several shrinking disc videos in my TH-cam channel showing how to remove a area dent.
Hey Ray do you have to be down to bear metal or can you shrink the metal with the paint still on the panel, I want to keep the paint and patina on the car????
Hi Tony, the metal has to be clean and bare- no paint or primer.
I want to get one but I'm still concerned that I won't use it right.
Practice on junk sheet metal panels
I will be buying one soon. I have been torch treating, heat shrinking for yrs. Time to get with the times. Lol
Flattery to smooth things over. :-)*
Was this aluminum or steel?
There are a few sparks, so I'm going to assume the hood is steel.
20 gauge steel
the demo was steel, but I have used mine on .060 aluminum using a little soap as the lubricant and it works very well
@@gregcarnforth991 ok, thank you for the reply. I have some aluminum panels that aren't "dented", just wavy. I was going to try to shrink them with a torch, but they're thin. I'll try this method first
That's amazing Wray! Would that work with the inner structure still in place? Or would the glue dots be exaggerated?
You have to remove the inner stucture and you have to use the disc on both sides of hood.
use a laser thermometer so we know how hot.
300 degrees F
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Why don't you just put the flange nut in with the shrinking disk? And also tell people to buy a stack of 7/8 ID flat washers? Otherwise your new customer gets the thing and says "how the f**k do I attach this to my 15 amp grinder???"
Probably because they don't know what size angle grinder you have. Good call though, if you order, order the flange nut.
Watch my videos on how to mount the discs. Also all of the mounting pictures are on my website.
@@proshaper From Earth to Wray: They don't ship that big spacer with the Makita grinder any longer and without the flange nut you do not have a flush mount. Why do you want to make it so complicated???
Missing your videos!