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"Flowers are only flowers because they fall" = A life is only life because of death
Awesome.
Thought of this when she was about to commit jigai (sepuku). When she said to Blackthorn "please wait until I have fallen"
The historical character that Mariko-san is based on- Hosokawa Gracia san , actually did leave an actual death poem the flower poem is based on. Recently in Japan there was a political scandle and the Mayor was forced to resign his post and he quoted her poem in reference to himself. Hosokawa Gracia's descendant is a newspaper editor today and was outraged at a disgraced politician quoting what is his ancestors death poem.
I disagree with this. I see death as a disease that needs to be cured. At least allow us to live longer. Moat of humanities mistakes come from how short lived we are and repeat the same mistakes, over and over.
Blackthorne is essentially taking on the sin of murder, by becoming Mariko's second. In normal circumstance the second is the one that ends the life. Hence the power of his statement of having experienced hell.
And Mariko counters Blackthorne's gesture by saying to wait until she has fallen (actually die) so she will spare him the sin of killing her. Her committing the dagger plunge is a suicide attempt, but the sin of suicide happens at poing of death.
That scene was breathtaking. They both showing the depth of their affection to the other.
Ishido did not catch that Mariko's poem was a dud. It goes to show that he was a mere peasant. Mariko had every right to remind him that SHE comes from samurai lineage.
Yes, and by mentioning his father, it somewhat regained the respect and honor that her family has lost.
Mariko did her duty 😥 .. this show spoiled me, it will be hard to watch new shows after this masterpiece.
The scene where Mariko, who comes from a thousand-year-old samurai family, expresses her pride at Ishido, who has gone from being a peasant to being a bureaucrat to being a member of the Council of Regents, was ironic for Ishido, wasn't it?
Toranaga was Based on Tokugawa ieyasu, He Had a Very Loyal Ninja named Hatori Hanzo, so i though it was Toranaga's Ninja come to the rescue and executed the crimsom sky as His ACE Card but it turned out to be a tragic death at the end😭 RIP Mariko-sama😭😭😭
This is the death poem read by Garasha Hosokawa, who was the model for Mariko, when she chose suicide rather than live and become a hostage.
A flower is only a flower if it knows when to fall, and so should humans. Now is the time to fall.
As Japanese people, we must never forget that Japan is what it is today because of the blood, sweat, tears, and sacrifices of so many people.
Ishido wanted to confine Mariko. He prepared ninjas for that purpose. He ordered Yabu to send ninjas to the Toranaga residence. The ninjas tried to explode only the door to secure Mariko. Yabu knew the ninjas' purpose, so he tried to move Mariko away from the door. Even for Yabu, Mariko's actions were beyond his expectations.
And they didn't expect that John - and his pistol - was with Mariko.
The language of flowers for Crimson Sky is "love, beauty, passion".
"Crimson Sky" was never Toranaga's huge army staging an invasion. MARIKO WAS CRIMSON SKY. This was a long 14-year game. THIS is why she was kept alive. They all knew Ishido would never let her go. This is why the ninja attempted to kidnap her, rather than just kill her right away. Ishido will be blamed for her death and he will be exposed as the lying, corrupt, hostage-taker that he is. The other noble families will revolt. I will also bet that Ochiba turns on Ishido.
Exactly this! Mariko knew she was going to die as this was the plan that Toranaga told her to action. Its hard but sacrifices must be made for the greater good. Now when Toranaga sweeps in with his army, they will be 'saving' the noble families and heir from Ishido, this will give them the support they need to gain power/Shogun.
@@beck99o Ooh, I love the "saving the noble families" angle!!
Her task was to die in his captivity.A political move by Toranaga,but also redeeming Mariko’s bloodline honor by letting her die the samurai way,in service of her lord
In the book that is what crimson sky was intended to be
A subtle part of Mariko's act of sepaku is her request for a Christian second. In that way she is actually killed by beheading so she is not doomed to go to hell. Anjin by offering to behead her takes on the sin thus his comment on he'll. And she tries to stop him by asking him to wait till she "falls." It is the subtext that makes that scene so powerful.
20:09 bro on the right is eagle eyed most people didn’t catch that he cut his fingers off first and most only found out after slow motioning it
凄い動体視力!
Such an emotional episode especially the ending. Cant wait for the finale!
Crazy how Toranaga foresaw all this and it all went according to his plan- it’s not so much as if he had an anime brain but rather he knows how to read people and predict their moves. He saw all of what Ishido would do if he sent Mariko to Osaka.
He also knew what Yaboshige and John would do. He knew John would protect Mariko when it was necessary and he knew Yabushige would betray him again at some point.
Toranaga knew that Yabu was a snake but he is so easy to manipulate he can be used like a reverse uno card so he should be kept around
Ishido actually want led mariko to be captured and locked away alive so that he coukd convince the others that she had left the castle
Shogun 1x9 | It’s 10 out of 10 !!
hiromatsu KNEW what he had to do, toronaga even tells mariko that. hiromatsu's last words were to basically trust toranga "even when he looks like he has given up on himself" - key words are "looks like" because he in fact is not. even toranga said the good of japan comes before the good of their survival. crimson sky entailed that hiromatsu unalives himself. that was the plan all along, even when hiromatsu suggested crimson sky earlier, toranaga declined and was hesitant because he knew it meant hiromatsu will unalive himself and mariko will risk her own life. this entire show kept foreshadowing the idea of death being as valuable as life is and that the japanese had no problem giving up their lives for the conveniences of those they serve.
私はこのドラマを観たことはありませんが、この演技での少しの語り草や目で相手の感情を読むことについて日本人らしさを上手に表現出来ているので面白い作品だと思いました。次の作品があれば大坂の夏の陣と冬の陣を観たいものです。ありがとうございます。☺
Love shogun
So glad the channel is back!
I literally wait for y’all’s reaction every week. Shane known you from blindwave and still enjoy your reactions for years now
Hey thanks dude! I’m loving the show and it’s great to be reacting again with my friends and family
Mariko swansong
「Only when is it known when to fall in the world
A flower is a flower and a human is a human」
😂😂😂
I read the book like three or four times. So, I know what happens. I wish it wouldn't happen but I know. 😭
I love this series and I love watching people reacting to it. Thank you.
The book is 1200 pages or so. The original paperback is a doorstop. Much more Rodriquez in the book and he’s a good secondary character.
Hiromatsu's Seppuku wasnt a catalyst tbh, more like a deterrent to stop the other generals from doing a mass seppuku which was hinted at. Only Mariko's death would be the catalyst here.
Glad your channel is back! I gotta start watching shogun. Looks bad ass!
Really interesting to compare this version with the 1980's version starring Richard Chamberlain.
I rewatched and realised Torunaga's son was the 2nd to the guy in episode 1 who spoke out at the meeting
RIP Mariko Akechi
Did your account get terminated for a short time yesterday? That was crazy
It did man. Scary time for us there for a bit
Mariko "Miyai, would you please take charge"
Miyai "...Leroooooooooy Jennnnkiiiins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...."
Not "they" did that do you. It was already a key moment in Clavell's novel.
The witcher is a horrible tv show, great game series though. But that show is an abomination. This show is truly amazing. Production and acting is westworld level. A whole shogun world, which is exactly the kind of show i wanted for a while.
No , the whitcher is a great show. I really enjoyed it and waiting for the new season eagerly
T bag looks good today 😁
Hahahah I cant wait till the day that he watches Prison Break
Channel is back! Started to watch this yesterday and then it cut out all of a sudden and said the channel was deleted :(, I was wondering what happened.
I was wondering what happened to your channel cuz i couldn't find it
Crimson Sky more like Crimson Door. 😭
Welcome back 🎉
How have we not come to learn episode 9 of 10 is the most dangerous episode?
the calm before the storm..
I'd like to know about the chant. Could anyone tell me the title of it?
Can't wait for The Final 🇯🇵🤯 Wonder how Toranaga going to take this, As Always Great reaction and review You guy's Rock🙏☯️🎆
THIRD STREET NEVER DIES
日本語の細やかで微妙な表現を英語に完璧に訳せるんだろうかといつも思う
何度か見返していますが、やっぱり無理ですね。仕方なくこういう訳になっちゃったのか、という箇所がいくつかありますね。
27:18 lmao that live for me took your girls breathe away meanwhile you and bro weren’t even phased
marikooooooo
lol it only took 9 episodes for mariko to kick rocks
There is no peace without war
Anjin's gun burst into flames
Anjin's shooting is superb
Ochiba落葉 is Nobunaga信長's niece
Mariko鞠子 is Akechi明智's daughter(princess)
buntaro文太郎 and mariko鞠子 fight and die for toranaga虎永
As a result, it helps everyone
mariko fulfilled his duties as an official in place of his father.
If you keep toranaga alive, there will be peace
I thought one of the masked men was Mariko's husband and he was going to see her and John sleeping together
Why would buntaro be a shinobi . Use your brain please lol
They only mentioned they were Shinobi at the end.....even they asked during the reaction at the start if were Toranaga's men
史実と小説
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そして10話の考察
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理解を深め、楽しめる
助けになれば幸いです
Thank you for the reaction but the only thing that Blackthorn cares about is himself. He proved it when he asked Her, "to do it for him". He doesn't care about Japan or its people. He is only focused on how wealthy he can become. He doesn't get it. On the other hand, Mariko is trying to save Her country. Please research the history that this story is about. It is about real people. It is truly heart breaking that Mariko was murdered, but it was necessary. This will be the catalyst to unifies the country. Get out the oxygen the last episode will be breath taking. This is tv at its finest. Please, stop comparing this TV series to others, there aren't any, period. Thank you again for your reaction.
No I think Blackthorn cares about Mariko more than Japan. I also think Blackthorn actually does care for Fuji, Toranaga. But it's personal with him. It's not philosophical or abstract like it is with the Toranaga clan (who's duty and entire purpose is to serve Toranaga and a united Japan) and Japan is something he will never fully be a part of because he's a foreigner. He has no ancestral ties to that land so of course he will care about Mariko more than Japan
Ok, from the start let me comment on your opening statement.
It was shown in the flashback, during the training scene of Mariko with the Naginata: Buntaro was looking longingly at her; and her smile fades as soon as she saw him. In the same background she shows disdain for the Toda clan, calling the union, a worthless alliance.
Plus by episode 6, Buntaro, a great warrior, goes to his Lord, busy with preparing for war, and moans to him how she has been icy towards him for 14 years. Who does that? How much proof do you guys need that he was not always been a shit husband? And all that is on screen. Heck, even in that tea ceremony, he outright says he only ever learned to do it FOR HER.
😂😂😂😂
I’m sure a whole lot of y’all Crimson Cried. You were all chasing after a Crimson Herring, only to realize, too late, that you believed a Crimson Lie.
Despite my criticism in previous episodes about how Mariko the wife continued to handle her domestic affairs, especially after how the truth of as to why she was kept alive has laready been revealed; I do have all the respect in the world for Mariko, the Retainer. She fulfilled her duty and managed to say out loud what every Lord in Osaka was feeling but were too afraid to say. And she also made the distinction clear: all the people in that assembly are samurai, while Ishido comes from a line of peasants. And she was committed to everything to the end.
(Minor Tangent: I am happy the gate scene was not a "girl-power mopping the floor with all those men" moment) Now all of Osaka's Lords are soured against Ishido; and Ochiba might have to put the engagement on hold in order to Mourn Mariko. Her mission is a success.
Speaking of which, it’s so heartwarming and heart breaking that “Leave us” scene between Mariko and Ochiba. I'm Happy Ruri-hime did not just outright hate Mariko for being her father's daughter; but their exchange was so heartbreaking as they both knew each other so well and what the other was doing and them pleading with each other to make the step to end the hostilities, and saying their goodbyes like that... it was made clear: Ochoba was willing to do anything to continue on living, while Mariko was samurai through and through and was trying to convince her that the duty is what is most important. The fact that Ochiba-Sam’s had to turn away to hide her tears and she can’t maintain her mask )9 fold fence) was just Gold. i think I'm sweating through my eyes. 😭😭😭
And Blackthorne finally doing the right thing and deciding to Second Mariko, instead of just dismissing all of Japan's customs and cultures as BS , that was the best gift he could have ever given her. So much so that despite my misgivings about Mariko the wife; their last night of intimacy was completely EARNED. As a Christian myself, Blackthorne pretty much says “despite me wanting you to live; I will kill you and add this sin on my conscience so that you will not condemn yourself to hell.🥹🥹🥹
And thankfully, Ishido stepped in, because Blackthorne was already shown as not capable of properly wielding that sword. Imagine if it had to be shown on screen the Anjin having to chop a couple of times. 😱😱😱
Yabushige's betrayal was to Kidnap Mariko AND not lay a hand on any of the VIPs (it was shown on screen that Shizu and Kiri was not killed when the shinobi identified them in their sleep). They need to make it look like some bandits or assassins got to her while she was sneaking off in the evening despite getting her permits: that was why the shinobi did not kill her right away, but rather were trying to take her away. Mariko became aware of this right away and chose where to meet her end: she did not go to the gate where she would get captured as Yabushige intended. Having grown up there with Ochiba, she knew what would happen when she chose to hole up in the store house.
I think people dont get that toranaga wanted mariko dead not ishido,. he made sure of that by sending yabu with her. He knew ishido would go to yabu if mariko succed in freeing the hostages forcing her the kill herself. Marikos death would mean major revolt among the regents. which is the outcome he wants... to be hoenst.. i kinda think toranaga is the bad guy in this story.. he wants to be shogun.. which means the child heir needs to die...
I don’t think Toronaga wants Mariko dead, but because Marike herself wants to die, he is giving her a purposeful death. I’m sure he knows that she might die with this mission but they are all taking risk.
lmao what
Toranaga's duty is to make sure Taiko's heir makes it to 16 and the other regents like Ishido just want power and the leper and other guy are selling out Japan to the Portugeuse. Toranaga is a nationalist and wants the tradition of the Shogun to continue.. he just didn't want to be that guy but he's duty bound by the requests of the Taiko.
Unfortunately, the story is mostly based on historical fact.
First of all, Jamie Lanister is your favorite character? Stop...
Jamie Lannister, the entire story of his life revolves around his love for his sister. It's gross. That is your favorite character.
@@ev1LsectI know, weird right? Joffrey was my favorite character. Who was yours.