I think this was one of the last games ever to give us the whole package up front instead of making us buy all the extra stuff. I really appreciate that. I miss those days.
They really did DLC right in RE2. 4th Survivor, Tofu, infinite ammo, etc, are all unlockable, and you really only pay extra for things like the Elza skin. That's how DLC should always be.
The flash grenades weren't useless, they could kill any parasite with one shot. So if you had blow off a few enemy heads, you could trow a flash grenades in between them to kill them all :P.
i didn't find this out until a long way though re5 when someone finally told me. /facedesk. but it doesn't work on all of them in re5 but better than struggling.
Also they helped out in certain parts where there was a pack of those cultist buttholes in the way & it bought me enough time to get to the door. The Ganado's Manji acting like crazy trailer trash on bath salts.
If I can admit the dialogue was cheesy, you have to admit Leon's voice actor owned it and made it work. He embraced the cheese and made it a part of Leon's personality. RE4 is the game that made me love Leon as a character. He's a dork and he knows it.
yeah... that still doesnt make the dialogue any good, i mean, its fine, but there could of been a lot more, and better. it may be super iconic, but that's a point apart and i think the remake is trying to fix this, with leon still being dorky, but to cover his wounds as racoon city would traumatize ANYONE. this is just subtly hinted at in re4 with Leon telling Krauser he fights "for my past, i guess..." its just more "realistic" in the way a character can have different... characteristics, with past trauma affecting them in some way, still kinda grieving. all i'm saying is i'll take interesting development over cheesy and iconic any day. (i think Leon's new va is still good)
RE4's encounter design is a big part of what makes it so special. The foes and encounters play off the expectations the game builds to surprise you and keep you out of your comfort zone. In the first few hours of the game, the players uses the classic strategy of shooting the enemies in the head to kill them faster. Then, the game introduces the Plagas enemies. The Plagas enemies spawn randomly, their resistance to hitstun makes them much harder to deal with. You could keep yourself safe as long as you could hit an enemy near you before; with Plagas foes, that won't work. Once you hit the castle, the game keeps you from using headshots when you fight helmeted cultists. They're part of the entire masterful first castle encounter, where you're also kept from holding your ground by the steady barrage of catapults. Shield enemies throw off players only comfortable with their pistols. Bow-wielding foes are much more threatening at range than any enemy to that point. RE4's designers are well aware that open space and clear sightlines are the player's best friend, so as the game progresses, those tools are stripped away. The hedge maze and sewers choose unique ways to spring foes on the player. The castle is full of narrow corridors. Even in more open areas, like the insect hive, enemies can move erratically and approach from all angles. They also use those tools in order to refresh earlier boss fights. The first time you fight El Gigante, you're given plenty of room to maneuver and dodge. The second time, you're packed in a narrow canyon with someone to protect. Similarly, when you face a Garrador for the second time, it's when the game springs a trap on you, dropping you in a tiny locked cage. RE4's encounter design is unmatched by any of its rivals, because there's a clear progression to it from start to finish, forcing the player to try new approaches and explore more of the design space.
Also the fucking sound design, either the enemies insulting you while fighting, the great ambiance, or the best example, the fucking regenerator, i mean come on, that damn noise still gets my adrenaline going, its a good example of "if the sound design is good you'll hardly notice it"
@@AvalancheReviews Those also kill crows. I believe there are two or three instances where you see a circle of crows. It's easy money if you lob a flash grenade.
It was nice having a Puerto Rican friend of mine hanging out with me as I played through the first hour of this game for the first time. He translated what the villages were saying. "Somebody just said, 'I'm right behind you.'" "That guy just called you an asshole." It was pretty cool.
I love hearing stories like these. In a similar but not 1 to 1 echo, I'm from Puerto Rico and when me and big bro would play this game on a borrowed PS2 copy, it was so cool to be able to understand what the enemies were up to. God I love this game
Yeah, I used one once in the first village area of the game, and saw it only temporarily blinded enemies, then proceeded to never use them again. I've been missing out,
The big difference between RE4's humour and RE1's, like the example you demonstrated, is that RE1's isn't on purpose. Those were supposed to be played straight and taken straight. Meanwhile, RE4 was actually making jokes.
It's kinda funny how people forget how much complaining and bashing fans were doing that capcom needed to start something fresh, and that they were tired of the fixed cameras. I specifically remember when the Hookman version was scraped shortly after the remake and reading thousands of comments on IGN in 2002 about fans wanting something new. When RE4 was first shown everybody loved and praised it and were glad the fixed camera angles were gone. Also people started begging for remakes of RE 2 and 3 and the original with 4's style.It wasn't until 5 and 6 people flipped the script and started bashing blaming RE4 for the series downward spiral.
@@redplanet667 It's happening to the FPS genre right now. Not too long ago, people were asking for CoD and BF and all the big companies to move away from WW2/WW3 games and to move to something else. They move to Future Tech, and a little over three/four years pass by and they're asking for games to go back to a modern or WW2 setting. And I think we're slowly working back towards gamers wanting to go back to Future Tech or beyond. Maybe in a few year's time. Same shit happens in MMOs, too. People used to complain that MMOs sucked too much time out of the player, forcing people into groups when they just wanna move at their own pace and relax, so MMOs did that and now people won't shut up about classic MMOs and how they were better. In all my years as a gamer, I think the one thing I've learned is that devs shouldn't let fans dictate or alter the image they have for their games. Don't shut out the feedback entirely, but don't bend to the will of the consumer and sacrifice your ideas, otherwise you get trapped in this endless tug of war between the fanbase and you please no one.
@@T8-TR yes I've noticed that about the fps genre and ironically it all began with another number 4 cod 4 modern warfare which received so much praise and then the following year when cod went back to WW2 people moaned, the trend of making everything open world or semi open world is another one that fans asked for but eventually came to dislike when it was applied to franchises where it seemed out of place such as metal gear and tomb raider
Yes I do remember fans complaining about fixed cameras and prerendered backgrounds...But fans weren't asking for them to completely go away from the core of Resident Evil. I mean these new games aren't even Resident evil games, they just have the name.
I liked the previous retrospectives but I get sick of hearing RE fans bitch because they were incapable of growing with the series they supposedly “love”. Let’s all stay nostalgic forever and hate everything new right?
@@colin3ds1 Agreed, but I want to state that unintentional humor isn't automatically better than intentional. Even so, the humor or resident evil 4 is entirely a localization thing, as Leon's jokes are missing in the Japanese version. In fact, the famous "Where's everyone going? Bingo?" line was "What's going on?" in Japan. I think it's safe to say that adding the jokes to Leon's script (even if some people think they weren't funny) in the English localization made the game better. And hell, people trying to be funny, doing so with confidence, and not being funny *IS* funny
And Shenmue was never what I would call "popular," thought it does have a cult following. So it's not surprising most aren't aware of the Shenmue connection. As a Shenmue fan, myself, I was surprised when (years after Shenmue) QTEs became more commonplace in games and the term began to gain traction.
Honestly I think RE4 is one of the few games that deserves to be described as a masterpiece. To this day I still don't understand how the developers of RE4 managed to create so many fun and creative scenarios/encounters. It throws in a few elements that completely change how you approach the combat in the game such as the head tentacles and having to take care of Ashley. And it keeps doing that throughout the entire game with the same basic mechanics that you had at the beginning of the game which is insane. Think how about each encounter was slightly different, think about the many scenarios/set pieces. Surviving the village fight with mobs of enemies attacking you, fighting a lake monster on a boat, Holding out in a cabin, chairlift ride, fighting Mendez in a barn, going through a hedge maze at night hunted by dogs, catapults in the castle, playing as Ashley, going on a mine cart ride Indiana Jones style, fighting Krauser, fighting U3, laser hallway, cage match with wolverine, fighting two wolverines + a couple of ganados, fighting invisible insects, fighting enemies that can regenerate, knight room, getting hunted by Verdugo, Ashley's bulldozer ride, head tentacles, enemies with dynamite, enemies with fire torches/molotovs, dual chainsaw fight, dual El Gigantes, water room, and I can just go on and on and on (the castle specifically is a goddamn treasure trove). The game has so many setups, so many unique encounters, you are always doing something different that compliments the combat in the game. And most of these are sequences that were made, shown and never show up again. its insane for a game of this length to do what it did, and many aspects are still things that haven't been done as well even to this day. Some things don't just improve with better technology. You cant just throw money at some random game developers and have it all click. RE4 had raw talent behind it, people who clearly understood game design.
I would say that RE2 Remake took the RE4 formula and perfected it. I get what you're saying about all the different gameplay scenarios, but didn't they feel disjointed to you? Like at one point, you're just fending off plagas infected villagers, and the next, you're throw harpoons at a giant fish. Didn't that kind of feel like Mikami just thought of a bunch of cool ideas, and then did nothing to string them together?
@@AvalancheReviews I thought they were put together brilliantly. Yeah there were some absurd moments in the game (such as the Salazar statue lol) but I never thought they were disjointed or affected the pacing of the game in a negative way. They also did a great job of the quiet moments in the game, you don't go from an intense sequence to an intense sequence without having a period of time to catch your breath and restock, and to explore the area and search for treasures, etc. The quiet times were not so long that the player gets bored or so short that the player doesn't have enough time to catch his breath. As for the RE2 remake, even though they look similar Its hard to compare them because they have different design philosophies, and they were trying to achieve different things. Both games are great for different reasons.
"I feel like I finally understand how Devil May Cry fans felt about dmc" Hoo boy... That is an ENTIRELY different feeling, my guy. It'd be like that if they took Leon, made a classic style RE game with him as a punk ginger teenager, fresh out of highschool, and made 'baby's first resident evil' with infinite ammo and inventory space and it included a scene where he walks behind one of those [your face here] things of a police officer and angsty Leon goes "Pffft… Not in a million years!" Only then will you know our sorrow.
you forgot one important thing. The NPC of the century - The Merchant. The upgrading of your gear, the looting, the adaptive AI difficulty. There was a nice sense of progression with every new run. For me RE4 was a masterpiece. They should have skipped 5 and 6, tho... But hey I loved Code Veronica X as well so maybe I'm in the minority
Although a clear distinction has been made in terms of RE terminology, I often tell people that RE 4 & 5 (did) have zombies. At least when taken into consideration that (traditionally) the term "Zombie" refers to a reanimated corpse made to do one's bidding by way of witchcraft/voodoo magic according to the Haitian lore that spawned the term. The plaga being used to create a collective consciousness that maintains a horde is enough for me to fit that mold. Still, there's a certain charm to the modern "Romero Zombie",as they're called. Especially since they're what made Resident Evil popular and what the series was built around to begin with.
This is true. They are zombies in a traditional sense, but since they still display such human traits, they don't have the same impact for a lot of people. For me, the zombie is so scary because of the disconnect between them looking human, but behaving inhumanly. When the ganados yell, talk and hold weapons, I get taken out of the experience. Know what I mean?
Avalanche Reviews On top of the claustrophobic and toned down design of the older RE games, the disturbing look and sound of the (modern) zombie was what scared me playing the older games. With the Ganado/Majini, they're definitely intimidating as a horde and their tendency to sneak up on you, but because you often had such a large area and a more dynamic array of options to deal with them they become less intimidating. Meanwhile, being trapped in that first room in RE 1 with a single Zombie did the job.
This was my introduction to the RE series when I was a kid. I loved every second of it & I put so much hours into the game that it made me wanna go back & check the previous RE games & ever since then I’ve never looked back. I Love Resident Evil
At least the game was pretty spooky. That more then anything else that drives home the spirit of Resident Evil. Hearing that chainsaw fired up knowing it's meant for you was a scary experience. The cultists whispering and laughing at you nerved you out. There is also the "what in the hell is going on" feeling throughout the first chapter of the game. That is also very Resident Evil.
That's true, but RE (up until this point) was all about slow building dread. Blatant things like a hulking guy reving a chainsaw, was a little on the nose, compared to the environmental atmosphere, and horror the series used to have. You're right, but it's a different type of scare.
Hearing that chainsaw is why I never got far in this game as a kid. I was horrified of the ambience presented in RE4. But, honestly, I feel that way about 1-5 (the only installments I’ve played to some degree or another).
@@buffyfan10112 ikr when i was 9 i was terrified seeing my cousin play this and get decapitated...i played re4 for the first time when i was 17 and to date it's one of my fave games of all time lol
Sorry, long post incoming! REmake and RE2 are my favorite games of all time, and I understand the mindset that RE4 isn't a true survival-horror/RE game, but I also disagree with it. I distinctly remember being tired of the overused RE formula back in the early 00s. REmake perfected the genre, but it was sandwiched between two by-the-numbers entries (CV and Zero). Then it was followed up by the Outbreak games... There needed to be some kind of shake up to the formula to keep the series interesting. RE4 is more of an action game, for sure, but the series had been going that direction since RE2. RE3 took it even farther with parry/dodge moves and a strong focus on combat/heavy artillery, but it was an awkward half-way point that made the game suffer and feel unfocused. RE4 is a focused (well, this can be argued), much needed (at the time) breath of fresh air for the series. I don't see it as some betrayal, and the game still has that distinct Capcom charm. You mention that people are wrong for praising RE4's self-aware writing, and you go on to say they are pathetically looking for ways to like the game. It can be argued that RE4 is or isn't self-aware of how cheesy it is (apparently, it was the English translators that took the serious Japanese script and made it more corny on purpose), but if it is in line with previous RE game's writing, then whats your problem with people liking it? Leon is an all-American hero, but he also makes corny jokes and comes off as a dork sometimes. Intentional or not, it certainly gives the game that Capcom charm that would only come from a Japanese creative team trying to emulate American heroes. It's not pathetic to praise a game for having that campiness. I love RE4 for it, and I love the other games for that as well. RE4's writing is just less awkward than the original RE1, but the spirit is the same. To answer your question "should this be an RE game?" I say yes. Even though there are few ties to the lore of past titles, I think RE4 expanded on what RE could be. It didn't have to just be about Umbrella anymore, but I like that it is still tied to the universe that I love. I have no trouble believing that RE4 exists in the same universe as previous titles, and while it isn't needed, I think it beefs up the world-building and offered more avenues for sequels. Regardless what how the series ended up with 5 and 6, I think RE4 still has that distinct RE spirit, which is hard for me to define. I can only really say when I notice its absence, and I felt the RE spirit was completely absent from RE7. To me, RE7 could have been called anything, and it would make no difference. That's another can of worms right there, but basically what I'm saying is that RE4 could only be titled "Resident Evil" as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, it's been over 10 years since the last classic style, pre-RE4 game. I think now is the time to bring it back, and RE2make seems to be the best opportunity for that. Unfortunately, Capcom is being eerily quiet on that project. Again, sorry for the long post. I did cherry-pick a few of your smaller points, but I respect your overall opinion on the game. You offer an interesting perspective, and I think for the most part, you're being quite fair in your critiques. It takes balls calling out RE4, and it's kinda refreshing. Haha. Keep up the great work with your RE retrospective! I'm quite interested in what your views of RE7 are since it is the most divisive title since, well, RE6. Cheers!
As someone who's videos keep getting longer and longer, I would be a hypocrite if I had a problem with long responses. Ha! I wasn't so much saying that people were wrong for praising what they saw as self aware writing, or just liking the comedy in general. I was actually making the same point you are. It's the same exact ridiculousness that the other games have always been known for, but the "games are art" crowd seems to give 4 a pass, as if it's any different. I just never understood people who criticized (with good reason) the unintentional comedy in past games, all while laughing a long with 4. I think you have a point though. Maybe I could be looking at this in a different way. Now is definitely the time to bring survival horror back. If I look at this as a phase, and if the potential is there for the series to return to a more survival horror style, I could be happy with that. Honestly though, I don't see that happening. I'll tell you what though; I would be 100 percent cool with getting a few spin offs in the classic style. If the main series stayed like 4, and I could get some side stories like 1,2,3, I could die a happy man.
Ah, got ya. Yeah, none of the writing in any Resident Evil is art, but there is always some kind of unintentional charm in Japan trying to replicate American movie cliches. I think what makes a company like Capcom stand out back in the day is the genuine appreciation they had for their own large cast of characters. They took the characters seriously, but you can tell they also had fun with designing them and giving them life in the games. This is super apparent even in RE6; though, that game probably suffers from more problems than any other game in the series. It's an ambitious but highly flawed good bye to Action Resident Evil. So with the end of action RE, we got RE7... RE7's level design did feel more like classic RE, but for me, that's only half of the series DNA. It wasn't a very creative game, and it didn't have the same charisma (or interesting design choices). But, I think that can be refined in RE8. And, hey, if RE2make ever does come out, and it's successful, maybe the classic style of RE will come back in main numbered titles. RE is just a weird series. I can't think of another major franchise that reinvents itself as much as it.
Yeah, I agree on re7. A lot of people hyped it as the return of survival horror, and even though it's dark and scary, it's not survival horror. I would love to see them work on the situational horror in 7. That was its best attribute I think.
KeeSomething Man I agree with everything you said. This, to me, is Resident Evil. The similarities arent just 10%, more like 80%. it is the spirit and charm of RE that is in this game. To me this isnt an action game like he said but a survival-horror/action one.
RE4 is my favorite RE game from the modern generation (RE: Remake it's my favorite from the "classics"). The story isn't something creative, which is expected of all RE games, but what really caught my attention the first time i played - back in 2007 - was Leon himself. The thing that impressed me the most was the fact that from the beginning to the very end i saw Leon escaping death multiple times. More than once the game, either through one of its characters or through scattered notes, mentions how you keep dodging every curve ball that they throw at you. Everytime they said that, it felt like i was the one surviving, that all the effort that they were doing to kill me was not working because i was too good (or too lucky, sometimes) to fell for any of their traps. Yes, that might sound idiotic, but the developers knew what they were doing here. In past RE games you always survived multiple dangerous situations by the skin of your teeth, but in those games i felt like i was just the player controlling the character, now i feel like i'm on the action. Maybe it's because of the camera system that they used that made the whole experience more "immersive" and realistic, or maybe because this time around the game itself acknowledges your skills at survival, making the experience more personal, or maybe it's just the way that the game flows. Games like Metal Gear 3, Batman Arkham City and Half-Life also made me feel the same and it's a good feeling. Also, the fact that for the most part of the game Leon was infected with the Las Plagas gave - at least in my opinion - the sense or emergency and uncertainty because i had no idea what would happen and if he was going to survive. Now, none of these things can be considered as "story", but they are great tools that can be used to make you feel more attached to the experience as a whole. I know that this is a personal thing and most people don't give a fuck about these things, but i do. Also, i LOVED the Wii version of this game. I played the PS2 and PS3 version, but the Wii version is my favorite. The aiming is perfect. No more blindspots or dead-angles, or whatever it's called. I can shoot in any direction or angle with no issues whatsoever, even if there is a Ganado right beside me, which made the Mercenaries and Assignment Ada less frustrating for me. In fact i spent more than 40 hours playing this game on the Wii in less than a month, and i know for a fact that there is a good amount of people out there that still consider this version the definitive one, no joke. Some people can get into it (the Wii controls) some people don't. It's like Star Fox Zero, where a lot of people hated that game's control scheme but i loved it because it clicked with me really fast.
My favorite cutscenes in the game involves ada and Leon. I wouldn't get the same satisfaction if it was some rando hero and his love interest. Seeing ada again made the game for me.
I completely agree, that this shouldn’t have been a Resident Evil title. It has so little in common with the previous games, that I feel like they just used the name so people would recognize it. I am not a fan of the other Resident Evil games, but I love 4. In my mind I am not a Resident Evil fan, just a RE4 fan.
The best version is definitely the wii version. The controls are perfect and work so much better than the others. I had absolutely no problems with it, you just have to make sure you have your sensor bar and room in order.
Aiming with the nunchuck was so awesome and fluid that actuallly made the game more easy, but if you dont like wagglan then you can plug in your Classic Controller or Classic Controller Pro and play it with a regular controls. The best of both worlds!
I played most versions before I played the wii port and I completely agree tbe Wii has the best control set the shit Ive pulled off in that version could not be replicated easily on my Xbox One or Ps2 ports
I know this comment is a year old but I was searching hard for someone to make a comment about how he took a shot at Yahtzee. Yahtzee literally said it plays like a b rated horror movie and that played in its favor.
Resident Evil 4 was my first real introduction into Resident Evil, before I only knew the series by reputation. It quickly became one of my favorite games. The experience was so much fun and lead me to one hundred percenting it. I could tell that this game must have been different to it's predecessors because it was obvious that a lot of the horror was gone. The lack of horror is actually what pushed me to play the older games and since a lot of the mechanics in 4 were present in previous games jumping into them was so much easier. It's a perfect entry point that really made me a fan of Resident Evil.
This game was a huge part of my childhood. So much so that I replayed it on my laptop with a mousepad and then again on a console. The stress factor and enjoyment of the game stay the same no matter how many times you play it.
You have to see this release, also, in context: at the time, any game with tank controls and fixed camera angles was getting panned because we had been through an avalanche of RE imitators doing just that. The absolutely great REmake and RE:0 were harshly critized because, sure, they looked fantastic, "but Capcom better come with something new now." There was a massive erosion in the public and the critics, so the crew here revitalized the whole RE concept, and that's arguably why the franchise is still alive today, because it dared to change. RE4's story is fucking 13-year-old stuff, but its gameplay is amazing.
I get that. I remember the series falling out with the public, but I think a better remedy for that would have been to back off on the fast production times for re games. They had one or two re games coming out every year for a long time. I think that is what contributed to the decline, and not so much the gameplay or mechanics. I can see what you're saying though. 4 is really damn fun, I just wish they would have called it something else, and left the RE formula alone.
The humor does not need to be intentionally funny to be entertaining. You can say it's bad, but in all honesty it's just more fun to be had for me. I also don't know if it could 100% even be said whether or not the campy aspects of the writing wasn't intentional. To me it seems so over the top that it would be strange if they really weren't trying even a little to make it goofy, but if that's the case I'd say that's still makes the dialog even funnier. I also equally enjoy the first game's dialog.
Ghoul Dash - I love that idea. I think now that I hear it, it would have been a far superior premise for the game and wish it had made the final product. Imagine not babysitting Ashley at all.
Story. A HUGE piece to my enjoyment is playing as Leon in the RE world with the Plagas being introduced. The small connections to the overall story is what makes it so cool in seeing where we are now after Raccoon City, and the new types of monsters scientific meddling has created. Also, having Wesker trying to get a sample and how that ends up in RE5 & Damnation. I love how it opened the doors for more variety, it’s the spice of life.
I'm really with you on your sentiments here, RE4 is hardly an RE game at all. That said, it's an incredible game on it's own and probably saved the series from extinction. Despite this game being great and literally impacting games for years, I'm extremely glad we're headed back in the atmospheric direction with 7 and RE2-2!
RE4 is a bit like the only Vietnamese restaurant in your town closing down and being replaced with a bog standard Pizza joint. There were already 3 Pizza places in town and now you have nowhere to get your favourite Vietnamese dish. But the Pizza they make is so damn good, you eat there quite happily but at the back of your mind whilst you’re enjoying another slice you can’t help but think “...I do miss Vietnamese food...”
I think that Resident Evil 4 being a great GAME but not a great RESIDENT EVIL game it's a straight up fact. It could have been the great beginning of a brand new franchise, but it just had to be a Resident Evil title and mess everything up :T
@@bradjames8256 God forbid that anything change or innovate ever, we would be stuck with the same old mundane crap. RE4 was something new that kept true to its roots while changing for the better.
Ah, RE 4, the game where everyone started thirsting after Leon. I've always thought from a narrative standpoint that it made sense for 4 5 and 6 to step away from isolated horror scenarios to a more action-centric series since Chris and Leon are far more experienced with bioweapons than when they first experienced them. You can't really do the same self-contained survival-horror thing for multiple games and not expect it to get a bit stale. For me, this comes out perfectly in RE 4. At the start of the game, Leon has no idea of what he's walking into and neither do we, putting us on edge as we're walking through the eerie forest towards the first house, But as the game progresses, Leon has some idea of what to expect and he busts out his campy action-hero goodness.
@Dark Shadow Storm I do like the gameplay mechanics more in the Hookman version though. I often wonder what 4 could've been like if they kept that control scheme but switched out the possessed dolls for something more in line with the RE universe.
@@strahinjagov The progenitor virus was what was originally supposed to infect Leon in the game. The virus would be air-born and cause hallucinations. This is something RE4 SORT OF kept, though decided to go with Las Plagas. The concept was recycled in RE Village in what is universally considered to be among the more horror centric moments that worked in that game. I'd argue that the 2 enemies we did see were hardly the only ones we would have encountered in this version. Safe to say that there were probably definitely humanoid enemies closer to traditional zombies. IF the RE4 we got would have been that version I say it still would have had a monumental impact on gaming. Though Cold Fear being developed as well was also using this over-the-shoulder style. So it was gonna happen regardless. OTS wasn't exactly really "new" just underuitlized at the time. However me personally, I would have preferred the 3.5 hookman version to what we got. It looked like a horror game and probably actually utilized survival horror mechanics. I'd take that version any day over an action packed shooter with merchants and cheesy anime moments. But that's just me.
Re4 is my first Resident evil game and my favorite one of the series so yeah for me this is a Resident evil game i wouldn't have touched the past games if i didn't played this one and i still call this a survival horror too since i was terrified with this game first playing it as a kid growing up and it took me alot of courage to finish it specially the regenerator parts still i respect the people who likes the old games too as i stated in my comment on your code veronica video that's my favorite game in the franchise with tank controls
Thanks!! There's always room for a bit of disagreement. I love that people can have differing opinions, and still enjoy my content. Let's me know the world isn't all bad.
I think the reason so many people are reacting negatively to this video is because your opinion on what the intentions of the developers (and really, the localization team) aren't the gospel. You can't just SAY RE:1 and RE:4's writing are exactly the same with no proof or without elaborating when the game industry changed drastically between them. The accidental bad writing of RE:1 and the action movie puns that make up the humor of RE:4 aren't at all the same and if you think they are you're misunderstanding what is funny about both things. Beyond this, your idea that RE:4 isn't self aware is extremely likely to be wrong, given that most jokes from Japanese to English don't translate at all, and the localization team have to take liberties in order to maintain the tone. That's not even taking into consideration the voice acting and voice directing which is OBVIOUSLY trying to be funny. It's true that RE:4 pushed the series in what ultimately was a poor direction gameplay and tone wise, but this game understood why it was doing it. It hit the good middle ground of still having a lot of the survival aspects still intact while mixing it with the over the top action (and fittingly, over the top humor and plot). RE:5 and RE:6 failed completely to understand what it was that people enjoyed, and I would hazard to say a huge part of why RE:5 is so horribly received is because they took the over the top action to the extreme and played it straight. EDIT: I don't know your age, but your statement that the game running at 30 fps could be negative shows your ignorance to the time period. In 2005 almost no games ran at 60fps. A standard of 60 fps didn't really come around until the current generation, I'd say that it wasn't until late last generation that we were able to see games really running at that level of fidelity. I feel like in general you're playing this game looking back and must not have played it at the time, so many of your comments lack the context of when it was released. + Your hostility towards your audience ("So many of you will find ANY reason to like anything about this game") doesn't make it seem like you have some kind of critical integrity, it just makes you seem like an asshole.
QTE’s began with the Dreamcast, invented and named Quick Time Events in Shenmue, which also started the open world genre and was the most expensive game ever made at the time.
I have to disagree with you on the nature of 4 vs 1-CV. 1-CV are very much b-movie based games, and I love them for that horrible va's and all. 4 is a big dumb action movie with laughable one liners, explosions and big dumb fight scenes and I love it for it.
I like 4 too. I think it's a really great game, but my issue is the original games had a campy feel, while playing it straight. 4 was trying to be campy, so it came off as kind of derivative.
@@AvalancheReviews Genuine question here: what does intentional camp have to do with being derivative? I'm trying to understand your point here, but I don't see the connection.
I have the PS2 version and loved playing this game. It's my "go to" game when everything else doesn't click in for spending killing time. Bonus game with Ada is so much fun! And who can forget The Merchant? This guy kinda kept the game going with me with all those nice goodies he was selling. Arming Leon or Ada with a Chicago Typewriter or the Ultimate Rocket Launcher is game heaven :) KAABOOOMM! (Good review by the way:)
Honestly I loved everything about this game and I'm glad it has the re title. This game wouldn't be the same without Leon and the way him and Luis are together. And the connection with krauser and Leon does a lot for me as well
The Wii version has Gamecube controller support if you don't like the motion controls. That's how I play it most of the time and it essentially just makes it the Gamecube version but with the PS2 content.
I love your retrospectives! Watching them all the way through currently. But “it’s shouldn’t have been an RE game” couldn’t you argue the same for RE7 for that matter? As good as that game is it has such little connection to the rest of the series plot shouldn’t it have been a standalone title? Genuinely curious what your thoughts are
yap, you're right, RE4, RE7 and RE8 don't need to be a RE-games at all. More so, they're ruining what RE series was for the fans, DESPITE being a pretty good games((
I used to watch my older brother play this game all the time and occasionally help him in thinking of to reach to solve puzzles and fighting certain enemies
5:28 - I could say the opposite to you. Shouldn't the fact that the same classic RE style of humor is kept here be a plus? How come are you using it to strike against the game and its fans? You seem to be hellbent into finding flaws in this game and even in people who like it. Again and again your complaints are unjustified and nitpicky. Yes, this game's relationship to the previous ones is kept minimal. So? Why is that a negative? It's supposed to be a new chapter. What did you want? Another re-thread of Umbrella sending monsters to attack our heroes? And how is it so different from what, say, Resident Evil 2 did? That was my first RE game and I never felt lost any moment because I didn't play the first one. Leaving aside the fact that Umbrella is behind the outbreak and Claire is related to Chris, there's very little tying one game to the other. The protagonists are different. The villains are different. The setting is different. The mission is different. We don't even get to see any characters from the first game in the second one (unless you count zombie Brad or the S.T.A.R.S. portrait). Honestly, it looks like you're grasping at straws in order to find things to complain about about this game _and_ those who are fans of it, as if _you and only you_ had a saying into what constitutes a "true" Resident Evil or Survival Horror game. I'd understand it if you were talking about 5, which doesn't even try to pretend to be about horror, but 4? Give me a break.
I'm not grasping at straws, and I'm not hell bent on criticizing it. I hold this game up to the 4 or so RE games that came before it, and I judge it accordingly. When I make comparisons, it's because the game doesn't exist in a vacuum. No I shouldn't just be happy it includes some elements of RE games in it. It is an RE game. I should expect that includes almost all common survival horror elements, that made the series great. Since it does not, I point that out. Also, let's keep in mind, this was a positive review of the game. I literally called it amazing.
This is true, when he said that “SM went and dropped all pretences of survival horror and went into a full on action game” I was like what??? It did feel like the change was too much for him and he did try to nit pick almost anything that wasn’t nostalgic... the games had to move forward and had to survive, if it wasn’t for their experimentation with the genre and franchise, we wouldn’t still have RE today alive and still changing. And when he criticised the campy voice work, I was thinking 🤔 I thought you wanted old school Resident Evil?? Nothing’s more old school resident evil than campy voice over, and it wasn’t even that lame, when I was younger and heard Leon’s snarky replies, I actually did laugh, like the “where’d everyone go? Bingo?” Like wtf that’s actually funny, coz all the people look old AF. Ultimately this addition to the franchise revitalised the series and To answer your question in the video, the people who do like the game like it for it’s spooky feel, diverse map, automatic difficulty adjustments, as well as the Leon & Ada flirting 😍 so fun.
Avalanche Reviews you shit all over this game and for such a fan of all of them I can’t understand how you missed the fact about the flash bang grenade... you praised 5 more then this one and that is complete garbage lol. Your reviews are cool but you’re soooooooo biased towards the original games and constantly compare the newer games to them. It’s cringey at points because it’s like you’re trying to be a pompous ass hat especially when you say “listen guys does this really need to be an Re Game” ugh... give me a fucking break. Worst review you’ve ever done by FAAARRRR
@@Monstermania101 Dude, chill the fuck out. If you hate that he's right, just don't watch him! It's as simple as that, god..! I hate Commenters like you that bash creaters for no reason besides 'Waaah! He made fun of my game! I'ma post a mean Comment and hope it hurts his feelings'! Get. A. Life. Or, better yet! Make your own damn Content, and leave him alone! God, you people piss me off.
I totally agree, RE4 should have been the beginning of something new and not a continuation of the RE franchise. Why split the fan base when you can retain the old and target a new I remember being bitterly disappointed with this game purely because of the direction it had taken the series, and for those who say 'we wanted something new' then play a different game, its very simple. if you're bored of what RE is, then there are 1000s of other games out there that will feel new
"There's litterally no difference between this: **shows the 'Your hand comes off?' joke** And this: **Shows the glorious Barry Burton saying the Master of Unlocking line** " Why are you implying this is a bad thing?
This game holds up so well today I think a remake wouldn’t make it better. A remaster wouldn’t hurt but a remake might - unlike RE 2 and 3 there’s not going to be a massive change in perspective and environment. It’d be the exact same game with encounters remove or added, and I seriously doubt they’d make it better. If anything, different people tampering with it a decade and a half later might screw up some of the encounters/pacing/tone. I really liked the RE2 remake, and even though the RE3 remake was lacking nemesis stalking and live select choices I know it could’ve been better if development wasn’t so rushed. But an RE4 remake is so unnecessary I think harming the experience is more likely than the opposite.
Resident Evil 4 is the best Resident Evil game overall. The story is okay with me because Leon works with the United States Government now and he was assigned to the special mission of locating and rescuing the President's daughter who was reportedly in Spain somewhere. Therefore, Resident Evil 4 should have little or not so much to do with the events of the previous RE installments. The gameplay is improved and more realistic because you can manipulate your aim, the knife is automatic and no longer takes UP an Inventory space and the knife can be used effectively to kill enemies and save ammunition. The quick-time attack options successfully do this also. A Castle is technically a residence so that still makes good sense, and the Los Ganados are the local residents in that area so sure. The Mercenaries option is an excellent way to improve attack techniques and timing when surrounded by a large number of enemies.
5:30 I will find ways to love every aspect of this game thank you. Just because you dont like the campy humor doesnt mean other people cant. Theyre not good jokes but we all know that and enjoy it for the attempt.
Great video my guy. Absolutely love it. And I’m right there with you not blowing this game like everyone else does. Yeah it’s a good game but like you said, it’s not resident evil
The first half of re4 up until the castle is my favorite part of any game. After that it drops off. They need to start making a game and at the half way point stop and flesh the first half out more lol
The difference between RE4 sense of humor and RE1 is that, RE4 is clearly more self aware and purposefully bad. The reason why RE1 was so terrible with its voice acting was a lack of direction.
That's why RE1 is so endearing, and 4 sounds like a guy trying to be unfunny, for irony's sake. RE1 was not trying to be funny, 4 is trying way too hard.
I do love this game and I always will. It's always hard for me to pick favorites, but RE4 will always be a contender for that title. in fact, I've been going through it again recently, nearly 60 complete play throughs. Not a stitch on speedrunners, but I'm proud of it.
Its a great game and a great Resident Evil game. The reason I say it's a good RE game is because even though it does not do virtually anything to move the story forward it brought one of the characters that we had not seen since RE2 back and basically showed us what he had been doing since then and it also brought Ada back which was how they tied Umbrella into all this. I would say I agree with like 80% of the video however, the RE fan in me loves this game. RE 4 is my all time favorite RE game and all time favorite game PERIOD!
I get that and trust me, I agree it's a great game, but I think your comment illustrates this point pretty well. In reading your comment, I realized that you just successfully described every part of the story that had to do with the overall RE universe, in just 2 sentences. My point is, when you can do that, maybe those parts of the story aren't that important. See what I mean?
Avalanche Reviews I see what you mean. I still love the fact that they slapped an RE title on the game and I love the change the series took just for this game though. Not for RE5 or RE6 though.
Yeah I mostly like the video but his comment on the humor comes off as extremely dismissive, as if anyone with a different opinion on the writing is just trying to force themselves to like every aspect of the games. I don’t even really love the game’s humor but I thought that was strange.
"15 hours." Glad I'm not the only one who noticed how long this game was by comparison to other RE entries. I agree it became formulaic after I while and I had wished it had a shorter length, especially with the predictable QTE's and box breaking. It was a fine game in its own right, but definitely NOT my ideal RE game.
I remember playing this game for the first time on my ps2 got it on a Friday night after school and didn’t come out of my room the whole entire weekend once I started it I just couldn’t put it down and played it until I beat it! And still to this day it is one of my favorite games ever and still enjoy playing it on my Xbox one now and is just as fun as ever I can still get lost in this game for hours. I can’t think of any other that I have played for this long and still consider one of the best ever and can compete with over the half the games released today and that’s saying something for a game this old now!
I had the same reaction when it came out on the gamecube. I still love playing 4 to this day, but I do notice some flaws that were better addressed in the games that came after it.
To be honest, I never cared less how much this did or didn't need to have the RE name attatched to it, it came out at a time where REmake bombed despite being an absolute classic and fan reactions to Code Veronica showed people were getting tired of the old RE formula, they had to re-invent at some point after 6 main releases with the same style, 4 was a much needed move at the time. I never had issues with the scarce references of past entries, they were just neat reminders of where everything came from and how it lead to this point. Fantastic retrospective! I'm still having a blast watching it!
The part where you talk about the fans being told what to like by journalists was a very tasteful hot take, I've said that myself for years. I've always seen this game as a DMC game with a RE skin.
What made 4 not only great but reach the realm of a timeless classic is how it blended its horror and more action elements both ins set pieces and locations, to its mechanics and gameplay Re 4 has some legitimate good horror moments from Salazars bodyguard who looks the alien from alien isolation and stalks you thru the sewers and then the boss on the suspension crates near the end and he'll even at times in the village just hearing slamming and thuds and not knowing where it they are coming from or when you hear the God damn chain saw, it's not the scariest by any means but for someone like me who is a scaredy cat it definitely had its moments
One of the things I loved about this game was all of the bonus modes/campaigns that unlocked at the end. Nowadays that stuff would have been dlc.
This is absolutely true!
I think this was one of the last games ever to give us the whole package up front instead of making us buy all the extra stuff. I really appreciate that. I miss those days.
Those were the days
@@ShinobiNeon resident evil 6 would like to have a word with you
They really did DLC right in RE2. 4th Survivor, Tofu, infinite ammo, etc, are all unlockable, and you really only pay extra for things like the Elza skin. That's how DLC should always be.
The flash grenades weren't useless, they could kill any parasite with one shot.
So if you had blow off a few enemy heads, you could trow a flash grenades in between them to kill them all :P.
Left4Coragem advanced tactits
i didn't find this out until a long way though re5 when someone finally told me. /facedesk. but it doesn't work on all of them in re5 but better than struggling.
Flash grenades were useful to me against those pain in the ass parasite infested knights in the room.
Same, blow their armored helmets off. Then toss 1 flash to save a bunch of ammo. ^_^
Also they helped out in certain parts where there was a pack of those cultist buttholes in the way & it bought me enough time to get to the door. The Ganado's Manji acting like crazy trailer trash on bath salts.
I dunno why people always say RE4 doesn't have tank controls, it does, the camera is just over the shoulder
exactly. it's 3D tank controls
That is a damn good point. ALL 3D games, first, and third person, use tank controls.
Couldn't agree with anything more
Not in the traditional sense like the original ones.
@@StormsparkPegasus No they don't you dumb fuck. RE4 and 5 use tank controls, RE6 does not.
If I can admit the dialogue was cheesy, you have to admit Leon's voice actor owned it and made it work. He embraced the cheese and made it a part of Leon's personality. RE4 is the game that made me love Leon as a character. He's a dork and he knows it.
Nothing is more perfect than a dork who can also be a total badass.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Totally agree! Some people don't appreciate cheese. In RE4, it gives it a certain charm to it that helped put me at ease after intense moments.
no way.............
Leon - "way"
yeah... that still doesnt make the dialogue any good, i mean, its fine, but there could of been a lot more, and better. it may be super iconic, but that's a point apart and i think the remake is trying to fix this, with leon still being dorky, but to cover his wounds as racoon city would traumatize ANYONE. this is just subtly hinted at in re4 with Leon telling Krauser he fights "for my past, i guess..." its just more "realistic" in the way a character can have different... characteristics, with past trauma affecting them in some way, still kinda grieving.
all i'm saying is i'll take interesting development over cheesy and iconic any day. (i think Leon's new va is still good)
RE4's encounter design is a big part of what makes it so special. The foes and encounters play off the expectations the game builds to surprise you and keep you out of your comfort zone. In the first few hours of the game, the players uses the classic strategy of shooting the enemies in the head to kill them faster. Then, the game introduces the Plagas enemies. The Plagas enemies spawn randomly, their resistance to hitstun makes them much harder to deal with. You could keep yourself safe as long as you could hit an enemy near you before; with Plagas foes, that won't work.
Once you hit the castle, the game keeps you from using headshots when you fight helmeted cultists. They're part of the entire masterful first castle encounter, where you're also kept from holding your ground by the steady barrage of catapults. Shield enemies throw off players only comfortable with their pistols. Bow-wielding foes are much more threatening at range than any enemy to that point.
RE4's designers are well aware that open space and clear sightlines are the player's best friend, so as the game progresses, those tools are stripped away. The hedge maze and sewers choose unique ways to spring foes on the player. The castle is full of narrow corridors. Even in more open areas, like the insect hive, enemies can move erratically and approach from all angles. They also use those tools in order to refresh earlier boss fights. The first time you fight El Gigante, you're given plenty of room to maneuver and dodge. The second time, you're packed in a narrow canyon with someone to protect. Similarly, when you face a Garrador for the second time, it's when the game springs a trap on you, dropping you in a tiny locked cage.
RE4's encounter design is unmatched by any of its rivals, because there's a clear progression to it from start to finish, forcing the player to try new approaches and explore more of the design space.
Excellent analysis.
Also the fucking sound design, either the enemies insulting you while fighting, the great ambiance, or the best example, the fucking regenerator, i mean come on, that damn noise still gets my adrenaline going, its a good example of "if the sound design is good you'll hardly notice it"
@@firstnamelastname8865 Yeah when I was a kid it scared me so much that I took 50 hours to just complete it
Flash grenades? *useless?* oh buddy....
Yeah, I don't think I'll hear the end of that. I have been taught.......trust me. HAA
@@AvalancheReviews Those also kill crows. I believe there are two or three instances where you see a circle of crows. It's easy money if you lob a flash grenade.
I also use them to stun enemies so I can DROP KICK them.
It was nice having a Puerto Rican friend of mine hanging out with me as I played through the first hour of this game for the first time. He translated what the villages were saying.
"Somebody just said, 'I'm right behind you.'"
"That guy just called you an asshole."
It was pretty cool.
Thats actually hilarious haha
i feel like this should be the only way to play it
Lmao it was so funny playing it for the first time and noticing they keep saying the same thing over and over again like “shit” or “here they are”
I love hearing stories like these. In a similar but not 1 to 1 echo, I'm from Puerto Rico and when me and big bro would play this game on a borrowed PS2 copy, it was so cool to be able to understand what the enemies were up to. God I love this game
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Useless flash grenades???? They insta kill plagas that are sticking out if enemies... Very useful
Yeah, I used one once in the first village area of the game, and saw it only temporarily blinded enemies, then proceeded to never use them again. I've been missing out,
Avalanche Reviews regardless. I found you yesterday and have been hooked ever since. Looks like I have alot of catching up to do!
Avalanche Reviews wow...
This is why your opinions in RE retrospective is always gonna be your only opinion i disagree almost every RE you covered.
Ennit. It's hard to take a man seriously doing a retrospective when he didn't notice one of the best mechanics of the game.
The big difference between RE4's humour and RE1's, like the example you demonstrated, is that RE1's isn't on purpose. Those were supposed to be played straight and taken straight. Meanwhile, RE4 was actually making jokes.
Exactly!!! You hit the nail right on the head.
@@AvalancheReviews
..... Then why did you say there was no difference between the two....?
@@martinsmith8118 If you read his comments hes not afraid to admit when hes wrong, much respect
@@AvalancheReviews man you weren't kidding i watched your Port video before this and i could practically SEE the salt flying off you.
@@AvalancheReviews But, you said the opposite in the video?
It's kinda funny how people forget how much complaining and bashing fans were doing that capcom needed to start something fresh, and that they were tired of the fixed cameras. I specifically remember when the Hookman version was scraped shortly after the remake and reading thousands of comments on IGN in 2002 about fans wanting something new. When RE4 was first shown everybody loved and praised it and were glad the fixed camera angles were gone. Also people started begging for remakes of RE 2 and 3 and the original with 4's style.It wasn't until 5 and 6 people flipped the script and started bashing blaming RE4 for the series downward spiral.
This is why I dont envy game developers, fans don't know what they want most of the time
@@redplanet667 It's happening to the FPS genre right now. Not too long ago, people were asking for CoD and BF and all the big companies to move away from WW2/WW3 games and to move to something else. They move to Future Tech, and a little over three/four years pass by and they're asking for games to go back to a modern or WW2 setting. And I think we're slowly working back towards gamers wanting to go back to Future Tech or beyond. Maybe in a few year's time. Same shit happens in MMOs, too. People used to complain that MMOs sucked too much time out of the player, forcing people into groups when they just wanna move at their own pace and relax, so MMOs did that and now people won't shut up about classic MMOs and how they were better.
In all my years as a gamer, I think the one thing I've learned is that devs shouldn't let fans dictate or alter the image they have for their games. Don't shut out the feedback entirely, but don't bend to the will of the consumer and sacrifice your ideas, otherwise you get trapped in this endless tug of war between the fanbase and you please no one.
@@T8-TR yes I've noticed that about the fps genre and ironically it all began with another number 4 cod 4 modern warfare which received so much praise and then the following year when cod went back to WW2 people moaned, the trend of making everything open world or semi open world is another one that fans asked for but eventually came to dislike when it was applied to franchises where it seemed out of place such as metal gear and tomb raider
Yes I do remember fans complaining about fixed cameras and prerendered backgrounds...But fans weren't asking for them to completely go away from the core of Resident Evil. I mean these new games aren't even Resident evil games, they just have the name.
Its true. I hate that some facts get lost in time.
"Useless Flash Grenades"
They instant kill big flocks of crows and their corpses leave lots of gold and a couple of grenades.
They also instakill any parasites.
5:30 yea no. Big disagreement there. The campiness over the top stupid jokes are charming as hell.
You're wrong
Agree 2 disagree
Agreed
Why not show GameCube footage when talking about it's graphics on that system
I liked the previous retrospectives but I get sick of hearing RE fans bitch because they were incapable of growing with the series they supposedly “love”. Let’s all stay nostalgic forever and hate everything new right?
“Your right hand comes off?” was pretty damn witty
It definitely was. I laughed a couple of times, but the point was that 4 was trying to be funny, and 1 wasn't.
Avalanche Reviews I feel ya. Thanks for these videos man, very entertaining and informative!
@@colin3ds1 Agreed, but I want to state that unintentional humor isn't automatically better than intentional. Even so, the humor or resident evil 4 is entirely a localization thing, as Leon's jokes are missing in the Japanese version. In fact, the famous "Where's everyone going? Bingo?" line was "What's going on?" in Japan. I think it's safe to say that adding the jokes to Leon's script (even if some people think they weren't funny) in the English localization made the game better. And hell, people trying to be funny, doing so with confidence, and not being funny *IS* funny
@@AvalancheReviews 4 wasn't trying to be funny. It was making a joke. And 1 was funny unintentionally. Two absolutely different things.
Maybe if you're five years old
Quick Time Events were originated and named by Shenmue, 6 years before RE4.
That's understandable
And Shenmue was never what I would call "popular," thought it does have a cult following. So it's not surprising most aren't aware of the Shenmue connection. As a Shenmue fan, myself, I was surprised when (years after Shenmue) QTEs became more commonplace in games and the term began to gain traction.
legend of dragoon had them in their combat a month before shenmue came out
Kyle Walker I feel like that’s more of a Super Mario RPG inspired mechanic than a QTE
Quick Time Events originated from Dynamite Deka/Die Hard Arcade long beofre anyone even thought about Shenmue.
Honestly I think RE4 is one of the few games that deserves to be described as a masterpiece. To this day I still don't understand how the developers of RE4 managed to create so many fun and creative scenarios/encounters. It throws in a few elements that completely change how you approach the combat in the game such as the head tentacles and having to take care of Ashley. And it keeps doing that throughout the entire game with the same basic mechanics that you had at the beginning of the game which is insane. Think how about each encounter was slightly different, think about the many scenarios/set pieces.
Surviving the village fight with mobs of enemies attacking you, fighting a lake monster on a boat, Holding out in a cabin, chairlift ride, fighting Mendez in a barn, going through a hedge maze at night hunted by dogs, catapults in the castle, playing as Ashley, going on a mine cart ride Indiana Jones style, fighting Krauser, fighting U3, laser hallway, cage match with wolverine, fighting two wolverines + a couple of ganados, fighting invisible insects, fighting enemies that can regenerate, knight room, getting hunted by Verdugo, Ashley's bulldozer ride, head tentacles, enemies with dynamite, enemies with fire torches/molotovs, dual chainsaw fight, dual El Gigantes, water room, and I can just go on and on and on (the castle specifically is a goddamn treasure trove). The game has so many setups, so many unique encounters, you are always doing something different that compliments the combat in the game. And most of these are sequences that were made, shown and never show up again. its insane for a game of this length to do what it did, and many aspects are still things that haven't been done as well even to this day.
Some things don't just improve with better technology. You cant just throw money at some random game developers and have it all click. RE4 had raw talent behind it, people who clearly understood game design.
I would say that RE2 Remake took the RE4 formula and perfected it. I get what you're saying about all the different gameplay scenarios, but didn't they feel disjointed to you? Like at one point, you're just fending off plagas infected villagers, and the next, you're throw harpoons at a giant fish. Didn't that kind of feel like Mikami just thought of a bunch of cool ideas, and then did nothing to string them together?
@@AvalancheReviews I thought they were put together brilliantly. Yeah there were some absurd moments in the game (such as the Salazar statue lol) but I never thought they were disjointed or affected the pacing of the game in a negative way. They also did a great job of the quiet moments in the game, you don't go from an intense sequence to an intense sequence without having a period of time to catch your breath and restock, and to explore the area and search for treasures, etc. The quiet times were not so long that the player gets bored or so short that the player doesn't have enough time to catch his breath.
As for the RE2 remake, even though they look similar Its hard to compare them because they have different design philosophies, and they were trying to achieve different things. Both games are great for different reasons.
@@mr.rashedmr.rashed7466 I don't mean to seem impolite but that's bs, the narrative and pacing is clearly incoherent.
@@mr.rashedmr.rashed7466 Fan boy alert. RE4 is a masterpiece! Hasn't played anything but 4, 5 and 6.
@@TheMuscleDummyLoserShowActually I played every game in the series except for some of the spin-offs (Gaiden, Survivor, Umbrella Corps, etc.)
This is the game that filled my dark soul with LIIIIIIIGHT!!!!... Liiiiight... light...
What are you buyin'?
What are you sellin'?
Not enough cash... stranger
Hehehe thank you
Ahhhhhh I'll buy it ...at a HIGH price
AHH!! The choice of an aved gun collector...its a nice gun stranger...
This is honestly one of my all time favorite games. I've probably replayed this one more than any other game
Me too :)
"I feel like I finally understand how Devil May Cry fans felt about dmc" Hoo boy... That is an ENTIRELY different feeling, my guy. It'd be like that if they took Leon, made a classic style RE game with him as a punk ginger teenager, fresh out of highschool, and made 'baby's first resident evil' with infinite ammo and inventory space and it included a scene where he walks behind one of those [your face here] things of a police officer and angsty Leon goes "Pffft… Not in a million years!"
Only then will you know our sorrow.
It’s the second video I watched of his and I can tell 100% his “true resident evil” is awkward controls, bad dialogue, and fixed camera angles.
Or, Perfect Dark Zero
@Pokémon & FF fan very very apt comparison. I think I enjoy his content because of how much I disagree with him though
you forgot one important thing. The NPC of the century - The Merchant. The upgrading of your gear, the looting, the adaptive AI difficulty. There was a nice sense of progression with every new run. For me RE4 was a masterpiece. They should have skipped 5 and 6, tho... But hey I loved Code Veronica X as well so maybe I'm in the minority
Although a clear distinction has been made in terms of RE terminology, I often tell people that RE 4 & 5 (did) have zombies. At least when taken into consideration that (traditionally) the term "Zombie" refers to a reanimated corpse made to do one's bidding by way of witchcraft/voodoo magic according to the Haitian lore that spawned the term.
The plaga being used to create a collective consciousness that maintains a horde is enough for me to fit that mold.
Still, there's a certain charm to the modern "Romero Zombie",as they're called. Especially since they're what made Resident Evil popular and what the series was built around to begin with.
This is true. They are zombies in a traditional sense, but since they still display such human traits, they don't have the same impact for a lot of people. For me, the zombie is so scary because of the disconnect between them looking human, but behaving inhumanly. When the ganados yell, talk and hold weapons, I get taken out of the experience. Know what I mean?
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On top of the claustrophobic and toned down design of the older RE games, the disturbing look and sound of the (modern) zombie was what scared me playing the older games.
With the Ganado/Majini, they're definitely intimidating as a horde and their tendency to sneak up on you, but because you often had such a large area and a more dynamic array of options to deal with them they become less intimidating.
Meanwhile, being trapped in that first room in RE 1 with a single Zombie did the job.
This was my introduction to the RE series when I was a kid. I loved every second of it & I put so much hours into the game that it made me wanna go back & check the previous RE games & ever since then I’ve never looked back. I Love Resident Evil
It is an absolutely amazing series, that's for sure.
Did he just say useless flash grenade USELESS UUSSEELLEESS (seriously though great video)
Ha! People are lighting me up here. I had no idea they were one hit kills on those guys! HAAA
Much appreciated man!
At least the game was pretty spooky. That more then anything else that drives home the spirit of Resident Evil. Hearing that chainsaw fired up knowing it's meant for you was a scary experience. The cultists whispering and laughing at you nerved you out. There is also the "what in the hell is going on" feeling throughout the first chapter of the game. That is also very Resident Evil.
That's true, but RE (up until this point) was all about slow building dread. Blatant things like a hulking guy reving a chainsaw, was a little on the nose, compared to the environmental atmosphere, and horror the series used to have. You're right, but it's a different type of scare.
You get enough fear from the Regenerators.
Hearing that chainsaw is why I never got far in this game as a kid. I was horrified of the ambience presented in RE4. But, honestly, I feel that way about 1-5 (the only installments I’ve played to some degree or another).
@@buffyfan10112 ikr when i was 9 i was terrified seeing my cousin play this and get decapitated...i played re4 for the first time when i was 17 and to date it's one of my fave games of all time lol
Nah, this game was a lot more action based than horror, I never really felt scared while playing it.
Sorry, long post incoming!
REmake and RE2 are my favorite games of all time, and I understand the mindset that RE4 isn't a true survival-horror/RE game, but I also disagree with it. I distinctly remember being tired of the overused RE formula back in the early 00s. REmake perfected the genre, but it was sandwiched between two by-the-numbers entries (CV and Zero). Then it was followed up by the Outbreak games... There needed to be some kind of shake up to the formula to keep the series interesting.
RE4 is more of an action game, for sure, but the series had been going that direction since RE2. RE3 took it even farther with parry/dodge moves and a strong focus on combat/heavy artillery, but it was an awkward half-way point that made the game suffer and feel unfocused. RE4 is a focused (well, this can be argued), much needed (at the time) breath of fresh air for the series. I don't see it as some betrayal, and the game still has that distinct Capcom charm.
You mention that people are wrong for praising RE4's self-aware writing, and you go on to say they are pathetically looking for ways to like the game. It can be argued that RE4 is or isn't self-aware of how cheesy it is (apparently, it was the English translators that took the serious Japanese script and made it more corny on purpose), but if it is in line with previous RE game's writing, then whats your problem with people liking it? Leon is an all-American hero, but he also makes corny jokes and comes off as a dork sometimes. Intentional or not, it certainly gives the game that Capcom charm that would only come from a Japanese creative team trying to emulate American heroes. It's not pathetic to praise a game for having that campiness. I love RE4 for it, and I love the other games for that as well. RE4's writing is just less awkward than the original RE1, but the spirit is the same.
To answer your question "should this be an RE game?" I say yes. Even though there are few ties to the lore of past titles, I think RE4 expanded on what RE could be. It didn't have to just be about Umbrella anymore, but I like that it is still tied to the universe that I love. I have no trouble believing that RE4 exists in the same universe as previous titles, and while it isn't needed, I think it beefs up the world-building and offered more avenues for sequels. Regardless what how the series ended up with 5 and 6, I think RE4 still has that distinct RE spirit, which is hard for me to define. I can only really say when I notice its absence, and I felt the RE spirit was completely absent from RE7. To me, RE7 could have been called anything, and it would make no difference. That's another can of worms right there, but basically what I'm saying is that RE4 could only be titled "Resident Evil" as far as I'm concerned.
Anyway, it's been over 10 years since the last classic style, pre-RE4 game. I think now is the time to bring it back, and RE2make seems to be the best opportunity for that. Unfortunately, Capcom is being eerily quiet on that project.
Again, sorry for the long post. I did cherry-pick a few of your smaller points, but I respect your overall opinion on the game. You offer an interesting perspective, and I think for the most part, you're being quite fair in your critiques. It takes balls calling out RE4, and it's kinda refreshing. Haha. Keep up the great work with your RE retrospective! I'm quite interested in what your views of RE7 are since it is the most divisive title since, well, RE6. Cheers!
As someone who's videos keep getting longer and longer, I would be a hypocrite if I had a problem with long responses. Ha!
I wasn't so much saying that people were wrong for praising what they saw as self aware writing, or just liking the comedy in general. I was actually making the same point you are. It's the same exact ridiculousness that the other games have always been known for, but the "games are art" crowd seems to give 4 a pass, as if it's any different. I just never understood people who criticized (with good reason) the unintentional comedy in past games, all while laughing a long with 4.
I think you have a point though. Maybe I could be looking at this in a different way. Now is definitely the time to bring survival horror back. If I look at this as a phase, and if the potential is there for the series to return to a more survival horror style, I could be happy with that. Honestly though, I don't see that happening. I'll tell you what though; I would be 100 percent cool with getting a few spin offs in the classic style. If the main series stayed like 4, and I could get some side stories like 1,2,3, I could die a happy man.
Ah, got ya. Yeah, none of the writing in any Resident Evil is art, but there is always some kind of unintentional charm in Japan trying to replicate American movie cliches. I think what makes a company like Capcom stand out back in the day is the genuine appreciation they had for their own large cast of characters. They took the characters seriously, but you can tell they also had fun with designing them and giving them life in the games. This is super apparent even in RE6; though, that game probably suffers from more problems than any other game in the series. It's an ambitious but highly flawed good bye to Action Resident Evil.
So with the end of action RE, we got RE7... RE7's level design did feel more like classic RE, but for me, that's only half of the series DNA. It wasn't a very creative game, and it didn't have the same charisma (or interesting design choices). But, I think that can be refined in RE8. And, hey, if RE2make ever does come out, and it's successful, maybe the classic style of RE will come back in main numbered titles. RE is just a weird series. I can't think of another major franchise that reinvents itself as much as it.
Yeah, I agree on re7. A lot of people hyped it as the return of survival horror, and even though it's dark and scary, it's not survival horror. I would love to see them work on the situational horror in 7. That was its best attribute I think.
KeeSomething Man I agree with everything you said. This, to me, is Resident Evil. The similarities arent just 10%, more like 80%. it is the spirit and charm of RE that is in this game. To me this isnt an action game like he said but a survival-horror/action one.
RE2 Remake is my all time favorite game
RE4 is just below it!
RE4 is my favorite RE game from the modern generation (RE: Remake it's my favorite from the "classics"). The story isn't something creative, which is expected of all RE games, but what really caught my attention the first time i played - back in 2007 - was Leon himself. The thing that impressed me the most was the fact that from the beginning to the very end i saw Leon escaping death multiple times. More than once the game, either through one of its characters or through scattered notes, mentions how you keep dodging every curve ball that they throw at you. Everytime they said that, it felt like i was the one surviving, that all the effort that they were doing to kill me was not working because i was too good (or too lucky, sometimes) to fell for any of their traps. Yes, that might sound idiotic, but the developers knew what they were doing here. In past RE games you always survived multiple dangerous situations by the skin of your teeth, but in those games i felt like i was just the player controlling the character, now i feel like i'm on the action. Maybe it's because of the camera system that they used that made the whole experience more "immersive" and realistic, or maybe because this time around the game itself acknowledges your skills at survival, making the experience more personal, or maybe it's just the way that the game flows. Games like Metal Gear 3, Batman Arkham City and Half-Life also made me feel the same and it's a good feeling. Also, the fact that for the most part of the game Leon was infected with the Las Plagas gave - at least in my opinion - the sense or emergency and uncertainty because i had no idea what would happen and if he was going to survive. Now, none of these things can be considered as "story", but they are great tools that can be used to make you feel more attached to the experience as a whole. I know that this is a personal thing and most people don't give a fuck about these things, but i do.
Also, i LOVED the Wii version of this game. I played the PS2 and PS3 version, but the Wii version is my favorite. The aiming is perfect. No more blindspots or dead-angles, or whatever it's called. I can shoot in any direction or angle with no issues whatsoever, even if there is a Ganado right beside me, which made the Mercenaries and Assignment Ada less frustrating for me. In fact i spent more than 40 hours playing this game on the Wii in less than a month, and i know for a fact that there is a good amount of people out there that still consider this version the definitive one, no joke. Some people can get into it (the Wii controls) some people don't. It's like Star Fox Zero, where a lot of people hated that game's control scheme but i loved it because it clicked with me really fast.
I hear that a lot, but I have never had a good time using the Wii's controls. Not sure why, but that pointer style just never felt right for me.
5:03 “I’ve sent my RIGHT HAND to dispose of you.” Leon-“Your Right Hand Comes Off?🤔” 😂
My favorite cutscenes in the game involves ada and Leon. I wouldn't get the same satisfaction if it was some rando hero and his love interest. Seeing ada again made the game for me.
I completely agree, that this shouldn’t have been a Resident Evil title. It has so little in common with the previous games, that I feel like they just used the name so people would recognize it. I am not a fan of the other Resident Evil games, but I love 4. In my mind I am not a Resident Evil fan, just a RE4 fan.
I know you say this isn't a hipster bash of re4, but it really does come off as just that.
Still love all your vids.
The best version is definitely the wii version. The controls are perfect and work so much better than the others. I had absolutely no problems with it, you just have to make sure you have your sensor bar and room in order.
Dream Train not the best graphics... but definitely the best overall package. Best controls, most content, and no online leash.
Oh yeah, the HD versions have the best graphics but for overall game feel I'd say the wii
Aiming with the nunchuck was so awesome and fluid that actuallly made the game more easy, but if you dont like wagglan then you can plug in your Classic Controller or Classic Controller Pro and play it with a regular controls. The best of both worlds!
I played most versions before I played the wii port and I completely agree tbe Wii has the best control set the shit Ive pulled off in that version could not be replicated easily on my Xbox One or Ps2 ports
It's the first version I played/first time I played a Resident Evil game and even played it again after getting the Xbox One version lol
Maybe I'm alone here but "your right hand comes off?" makes me laugh to this day.
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Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation never said the game was funny he said the game was campy and embraced it which i guess he has a point
I know this comment is a year old but I was searching hard for someone to make a comment about how he took a shot at Yahtzee. Yahtzee literally said it plays like a b rated horror movie and that played in its favor.
@@byoboftoxcityxxx3278 true
Resident Evil 4 was my first real introduction into Resident Evil, before I only knew the series by reputation. It quickly became one of my favorite games. The experience was so much fun and lead me to one hundred percenting it. I could tell that this game must have been different to it's predecessors because it was obvious that a lot of the horror was gone. The lack of horror is actually what pushed me to play the older games and since a lot of the mechanics in 4 were present in previous games jumping into them was so much easier. It's a perfect entry point that really made me a fan of Resident Evil.
This game was a huge part of my childhood. So much so that I replayed it on my laptop with a mousepad and then again on a console. The stress factor and enjoyment of the game stay the same no matter how many times you play it.
I don't feel like I'm exaggerating when i say this is one of the best games ever made. It just feels so satisfying to play.
Guys this is the guy who said re7 isnt a survival horror game because its in first person just reminding you :)
You have to see this release, also, in context: at the time, any game with tank controls and fixed camera angles was getting panned because we had been through an avalanche of RE imitators doing just that. The absolutely great REmake and RE:0 were harshly critized because, sure, they looked fantastic, "but Capcom better come with something new now." There was a massive erosion in the public and the critics, so the crew here revitalized the whole RE concept, and that's arguably why the franchise is still alive today, because it dared to change.
RE4's story is fucking 13-year-old stuff, but its gameplay is amazing.
I get that. I remember the series falling out with the public, but I think a better remedy for that would have been to back off on the fast production times for re games. They had one or two re games coming out every year for a long time. I think that is what contributed to the decline, and not so much the gameplay or mechanics. I can see what you're saying though. 4 is really damn fun, I just wish they would have called it something else, and left the RE formula alone.
The humor does not need to be intentionally funny to be entertaining. You can say it's bad, but in all honesty it's just more fun to be had for me. I also don't know if it could 100% even be said whether or not the campy aspects of the writing wasn't intentional. To me it seems so over the top that it would be strange if they really weren't trying even a little to make it goofy, but if that's the case I'd say that's still makes the dialog even funnier.
I also equally enjoy the first game's dialog.
Am I the only one intrigued by the idea of Leon being infected with the Progenitor Virus?
Ghoul Dash - I love that idea. I think now that I hear it, it would have been a far superior premise for the game and wish it had made the final product. Imagine not babysitting Ashley at all.
As cool as Leon having Wesker’s powers would’ve been the rest of the game that would’ve came with it would’ve been demonized as well.
Story. A HUGE piece to my enjoyment is playing as Leon in the RE world with the Plagas being introduced. The small connections to the overall story is what makes it so cool in seeing where we are now after Raccoon City, and the new types of monsters scientific meddling has created. Also, having Wesker trying to get a sample and how that ends up in RE5 & Damnation. I love how it opened the doors for more variety, it’s the spice of life.
I'm really with you on your sentiments here, RE4 is hardly an RE game at all. That said, it's an incredible game on it's own and probably saved the series from extinction. Despite this game being great and literally impacting games for years, I'm extremely glad we're headed back in the atmospheric direction with 7 and RE2-2!
I agree completely!
"Ps2 being underpowered"
GTA San Andreas: *am I a joke to you?*
Insert "here we go again" meme here
Yes despite that the Ps2 was underpowered if you compare it with Gamecube or XBOX
RE4 was so much heavier on PS2 than San Andreas ever has.
RE4 is a bit like the only Vietnamese restaurant in your town closing down and being replaced with a bog standard Pizza joint. There were already 3 Pizza places in town and now you have nowhere to get your favourite Vietnamese dish. But the Pizza they make is so damn good, you eat there quite happily but at the back of your mind whilst you’re enjoying another slice you can’t help but think “...I do miss Vietnamese food...”
I think that Resident Evil 4 being a great GAME but not a great RESIDENT EVIL game it's a straight up fact. It could have been the great beginning of a brand new franchise, but it just had to be a Resident Evil title and mess everything up :T
RE 4 is my favorite game of all time. I can't really find a fault with this game.
That's cool. There's plenty of games that I say that about.
The only fault is its name. 4/5/6 are great games. They just aren't Resident Evil
@@bradjames8256 God forbid that anything change or innovate ever, we would be stuck with the same old mundane crap. RE4 was something new that kept true to its roots while changing for the better.
The Walking Dad Re4 was a prelude to 5 and 6. the 3.5 prototype could give players what they demanded-fear, not an arcade shooter
NeoN_Plaza 3.5 would’ve been demonized for trying to be Silent Hill. Get real
Ah, RE 4, the game where everyone started thirsting after Leon. I've always thought from a narrative standpoint that it made sense for 4 5 and 6 to step away from isolated horror scenarios to a more action-centric series since Chris and Leon are far more experienced with bioweapons than when they first experienced them. You can't really do the same self-contained survival-horror thing for multiple games and not expect it to get a bit stale.
For me, this comes out perfectly in RE 4. At the start of the game, Leon has no idea of what he's walking into and neither do we, putting us on edge as we're walking through the eerie forest towards the first house, But as the game progresses, Leon has some idea of what to expect and he busts out his campy action-hero goodness.
That hookman version looked scarier though.
Yeah but it looked more like Silent Hill than RE
@Dark Shadow Storm I do like the gameplay mechanics more in the Hookman version though. I often wonder what 4 could've been like if they kept that control scheme but switched out the possessed dolls for something more in line with the RE universe.
@@strahinjagov The progenitor virus was what was originally supposed to infect Leon in the game. The virus would be air-born and cause hallucinations. This is something RE4 SORT OF kept, though decided to go with Las Plagas. The concept was recycled in RE Village in what is universally considered to be among the more horror centric moments that worked in that game.
I'd argue that the 2 enemies we did see were hardly the only ones we would have encountered in this version. Safe to say that there were probably definitely humanoid enemies closer to traditional zombies. IF the RE4 we got would have been that version I say it still would have had a monumental impact on gaming. Though Cold Fear being developed as well was also using this over-the-shoulder style. So it was gonna happen regardless. OTS wasn't exactly really "new" just underuitlized at the time.
However me personally, I would have preferred the 3.5 hookman version to what we got. It looked like a horror game and probably actually utilized survival horror mechanics. I'd take that version any day over an action packed shooter with merchants and cheesy anime moments. But that's just me.
I’m glad you’re willing to come out and say your opinions on Re4 bc most of the community praises this game like jesus it’s so frustrating
Re4 is my first Resident evil game and my favorite one of the series so yeah for me this is a Resident evil game i wouldn't have touched the past games if i didn't played this one and i still call this a survival horror too since i was terrified with this game first playing it as a kid growing up and it took me alot of courage to finish it specially the regenerator parts still i respect the people who likes the old games too as i stated in my comment on your code veronica video that's my favorite game in the franchise with tank controls
Flash grenades were so handy for killing the headsprouts!
Wanna hear something crazy?? I'm just now finding that out. HAA
No Way! Hey, at least it gives you an excuse to give it another play.
Loving the series, keep up the good work!
Despite disagreeing with you in some points, your retrospectives never dissappoint.
Nice job dude!
Thanks!! There's always room for a bit of disagreement. I love that people can have differing opinions, and still enjoy my content. Let's me know the world isn't all bad.
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Will you be moving on to 5 or is there any chance you would make a retrospective about zero?
I think the reason so many people are reacting negatively to this video is because your opinion on what the intentions of the developers (and really, the localization team) aren't the gospel. You can't just SAY RE:1 and RE:4's writing are exactly the same with no proof or without elaborating when the game industry changed drastically between them. The accidental bad writing of RE:1 and the action movie puns that make up the humor of RE:4 aren't at all the same and if you think they are you're misunderstanding what is funny about both things. Beyond this, your idea that RE:4 isn't self aware is extremely likely to be wrong, given that most jokes from Japanese to English don't translate at all, and the localization team have to take liberties in order to maintain the tone. That's not even taking into consideration the voice acting and voice directing which is OBVIOUSLY trying to be funny.
It's true that RE:4 pushed the series in what ultimately was a poor direction gameplay and tone wise, but this game understood why it was doing it. It hit the good middle ground of still having a lot of the survival aspects still intact while mixing it with the over the top action (and fittingly, over the top humor and plot). RE:5 and RE:6 failed completely to understand what it was that people enjoyed, and I would hazard to say a huge part of why RE:5 is so horribly received is because they took the over the top action to the extreme and played it straight.
EDIT: I don't know your age, but your statement that the game running at 30 fps could be negative shows your ignorance to the time period. In 2005 almost no games ran at 60fps. A standard of 60 fps didn't really come around until the current generation, I'd say that it wasn't until late last generation that we were able to see games really running at that level of fidelity. I feel like in general you're playing this game looking back and must not have played it at the time, so many of your comments lack the context of when it was released.
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Your hostility towards your audience ("So many of you will find ANY reason to like anything about this game") doesn't make it seem like you have some kind of critical integrity, it just makes you seem like an asshole.
QTE’s began with the Dreamcast, invented and named Quick Time Events in Shenmue, which also started the open world genre and was the most expensive game ever made at the time.
I have to disagree with you on the nature of 4 vs 1-CV. 1-CV are very much b-movie based games, and I love them for that horrible va's and all. 4 is a big dumb action movie with laughable one liners, explosions and big dumb fight scenes and I love it for it.
I like 4 too. I think it's a really great game, but my issue is the original games had a campy feel, while playing it straight. 4 was trying to be campy, so it came off as kind of derivative.
@@AvalancheReviews Genuine question here: what does intentional camp have to do with being derivative? I'm trying to understand your point here, but I don't see the connection.
i knew you were a filthy casual when you said "useless flash grenade"
Love the videos man, huge RE fan, don't know if you plan to do a silent hill series but if you did that would be dope!! Keep up the good work
I love SH! I'll definitely get around to covering the whole series.
Jesus you were really pissed when you wrote and made this
Well, the saga is called "Resident Evil ("Biohazard"), and not "Zombies & Umbrella." Thus, story-wise, this is an excellent addition to the series.
I have the PS2 version and loved playing this game.
It's my "go to" game when everything else doesn't click in for spending killing time.
Bonus game with Ada is so much fun! And who can forget The Merchant? This guy kinda kept the game going with me with all those nice goodies he was selling.
Arming Leon or Ada with a Chicago Typewriter or the Ultimate Rocket Launcher is game heaven :)
KAABOOOMM!
(Good review by the way:)
Resident Evil 0 ?
Perhaps.....perhaps
Hey it's you!
RE4 is so great. Unfortunately it set the series in the wrong direction for years. They saw that it worked and leaned too far into it afterwards.
This game was groundbreaking and all the content was INCLUDED with NO DLC
Actually, no, you'd have to buy different copies of different consoles to get all the content. That's worse than DLC
@@theemblemhunter yes, they do! But not back then
Resident Evil 4 felt more like a House of the Dead arcade game than a Resident Evil game. Still it was enjoyable!
Honestly I loved everything about this game and I'm glad it has the re title. This game wouldn't be the same without Leon and the way him and Luis are together. And the connection with krauser and Leon does a lot for me as well
Nah, I couldn’t agree more. It’s a fun game, but it really didn’t need to be a Resident Evil game.
Glad to see there's a good amount of people that see things this way
In my opinion, RE4 and RE Village are everything RE games should strive to be: a perfect mix of action and horror
The Wii version has Gamecube controller support if you don't like the motion controls. That's how I play it most of the time and it essentially just makes it the Gamecube version but with the PS2 content.
Yeah, I didn't even consider that as an option, when I was getting gameplay footage.
It works a lot better imo. It even gets rid of that pesky reticle and replaces it with the laser sight.
Also works with the Wii Classic Controller.
I love your retrospectives! Watching them all the way through currently. But “it’s shouldn’t have been an RE game” couldn’t you argue the same for RE7 for that matter? As good as that game is it has such little connection to the rest of the series plot shouldn’t it have been a standalone title? Genuinely curious what your thoughts are
yap, you're right, RE4, RE7 and RE8 don't need to be a RE-games at all. More so, they're ruining what RE series was for the fans, DESPITE being a pretty good games((
I've always held the opinion that it wasn't a Resident Evil game. It was just an action game with RE aspects shoehorned in.
I used to watch my older brother play this game all the time and occasionally help him in thinking of to reach to solve puzzles and fighting certain enemies
That's always the best. Watching a sibling play a video game is is an integral part of growing up.
I love all REs except 5 and 6. This series is so good, I don't care what anyone says :D
This sounds like an old school fan boy having an old school fan boy attack.
5:28 - I could say the opposite to you. Shouldn't the fact that the same classic RE style of humor is kept here be a plus? How come are you using it to strike against the game and its fans? You seem to be hellbent into finding flaws in this game and even in people who like it. Again and again your complaints are unjustified and nitpicky. Yes, this game's relationship to the previous ones is kept minimal. So? Why is that a negative? It's supposed to be a new chapter. What did you want? Another re-thread of Umbrella sending monsters to attack our heroes?
And how is it so different from what, say, Resident Evil 2 did? That was my first RE game and I never felt lost any moment because I didn't play the first one. Leaving aside the fact that Umbrella is behind the outbreak and Claire is related to Chris, there's very little tying one game to the other. The protagonists are different. The villains are different. The setting is different. The mission is different. We don't even get to see any characters from the first game in the second one (unless you count zombie Brad or the S.T.A.R.S. portrait).
Honestly, it looks like you're grasping at straws in order to find things to complain about about this game _and_ those who are fans of it, as if _you and only you_ had a saying into what constitutes a "true" Resident Evil or Survival Horror game. I'd understand it if you were talking about 5, which doesn't even try to pretend to be about horror, but 4? Give me a break.
I'm not grasping at straws, and I'm not hell bent on criticizing it. I hold this game up to the 4 or so RE games that came before it, and I judge it accordingly. When I make comparisons, it's because the game doesn't exist in a vacuum. No I shouldn't just be happy it includes some elements of RE games in it. It is an RE game. I should expect that includes almost all common survival horror elements, that made the series great. Since it does not, I point that out. Also, let's keep in mind, this was a positive review of the game. I literally called it amazing.
This is true, when he said that “SM went and dropped all pretences of survival horror and went into a full on action game” I was like what??? It did feel like the change was too much for him and he did try to nit pick almost anything that wasn’t nostalgic... the games had to move forward and had to survive, if it wasn’t for their experimentation with the genre and franchise, we wouldn’t still have RE today alive and still changing. And when he criticised the campy voice work, I was thinking 🤔 I thought you wanted old school Resident Evil?? Nothing’s more old school resident evil than campy voice over, and it wasn’t even that lame, when I was younger and heard Leon’s snarky replies, I actually did laugh, like the “where’d everyone go? Bingo?” Like wtf that’s actually funny, coz all the people look old AF.
Ultimately this addition to the franchise revitalised the series and To answer your question in the video, the people who do like the game like it for it’s spooky feel, diverse map, automatic difficulty adjustments, as well as the Leon & Ada flirting 😍 so fun.
Avalanche Reviews you shit all over this game and for such a fan of all of them I can’t understand how you missed the fact about the flash bang grenade... you praised 5 more then this one and that is complete garbage lol. Your reviews are cool but you’re soooooooo biased towards the original games and constantly compare the newer games to them. It’s cringey at points because it’s like you’re trying to be a pompous ass hat especially when you say “listen guys does this really need to be an Re Game” ugh... give me a fucking break. Worst review you’ve ever done by FAAARRRR
@@Monstermania101 Dude, chill the fuck out. If you hate that he's right, just don't watch him! It's as simple as that, god..! I hate Commenters like you that bash creaters for no reason besides 'Waaah! He made fun of my game! I'ma post a mean Comment and hope it hurts his feelings'! Get. A. Life.
Or, better yet! Make your own damn Content, and leave him alone! God, you people piss me off.
Gameree 96 people like you piss me off lmao
Your lack of fanboyism towards this entry is refreshing. Spot on.
Well that's good to hear. I always think I come across as one.
I totally agree, RE4 should have been the beginning of something new and not a continuation of the RE franchise. Why split the fan base when you can retain the old and target a new
I remember being bitterly disappointed with this game purely because of the direction it had taken the series, and for those who say 'we wanted something new' then play a different game, its very simple. if you're bored of what RE is, then there are 1000s of other games out there that will feel new
Yes! You're absolutely right!
I love the amount of saltiness at the beginning of the video, I couldn't agree more!
Ha! I may or may not have had that rant saved up for a long time.
I know it's a couple of months old, but only now I got the pleasure to find your REtrospective! Keep up the great work!
It's not a good Resident Evil game, but it is a great game in its own right. Gettin' me right in the feels.
HA! Avalanche (emotional roller coaster) Reviews
"There's litterally no difference between this: **shows the 'Your hand comes off?' joke** And this: **Shows the glorious Barry Burton saying the Master of Unlocking line** "
Why are you implying this is a bad thing?
Nope, I'm saying they're both unintentionally funny.
This game holds up so well today I think a remake wouldn’t make it better. A remaster wouldn’t hurt but a remake might - unlike RE 2 and 3 there’s not going to be a massive change in perspective and environment. It’d be the exact same game with encounters remove or added, and I seriously doubt they’d make it better. If anything, different people tampering with it a decade and a half later might screw up some of the encounters/pacing/tone.
I really liked the RE2 remake, and even though the RE3 remake was lacking nemesis stalking and live select choices I know it could’ve been better if development wasn’t so rushed. But an RE4 remake is so unnecessary I think harming the experience is more likely than the opposite.
Dominic dominic For sure, it’s not perfect. It’s not even my favorite RE or anything. I just don’t know if a remake is warranted
I believe Haunting Ground was also a RE4 prototype that became it's own game.
Resident Evil 4 is the best Resident Evil game overall. The story is okay with me because Leon works with the United States Government now and he was assigned to the special mission of locating and rescuing the President's daughter who was reportedly in Spain somewhere. Therefore, Resident Evil 4 should have little or not so much to do with the events of the previous RE installments. The gameplay is improved and more realistic because you can manipulate your aim, the knife is automatic and no longer takes UP an Inventory space and the knife can be used effectively to kill enemies and save ammunition. The quick-time attack options successfully do this also. A Castle is technically a residence so that still makes good sense, and the Los Ganados are the local residents in that area so sure. The Mercenaries option is an excellent way to improve attack techniques and timing when surrounded by a large number of enemies.
Oh man. Come on. Re4 announcer is great. I always imitate him. Here I was happy with your onimusha review and I already lost in the first minute T_T
This is the same person that said first person games can't be survival horror, so that perfectly showcases how seriously you can take this dumbass
"Useless flash grenades?" How else are you gonna kill a chainsaw guy with Leon's kicks of fury?
5:30 I will find ways to love every aspect of this game thank you. Just because you dont like the campy humor doesnt mean other people cant. Theyre not good jokes but we all know that and enjoy it for the attempt.
Great video my guy. Absolutely love it. And I’m right there with you not blowing this game like everyone else does. Yeah it’s a good game but like you said, it’s not resident evil
I remember that a lot of people praised the QTEs
The first half of re4 up until the castle is my favorite part of any game. After that it drops off. They need to start making a game and at the half way point stop and flesh the first half out more lol
Totally agree with that
I think the castle is a masterpiece segment. The Island though is just straight cancer. Except for the regenerators, I despise it every time.
As much as I love this game. I gotta say my guy you are completely right.
I think the castle is amazing along with the island
The difference between RE4 sense of humor and RE1 is that, RE4 is clearly more self aware and purposefully bad.
The reason why RE1 was so terrible with its voice acting was a lack of direction.
That's why RE1 is so endearing, and 4 sounds like a guy trying to be unfunny, for irony's sake. RE1 was not trying to be funny, 4 is trying way too hard.
Avalanche Reviews I suppose. Honestly, I have to play it. Ive never gotten to the end of RE:1.
I do love this game and I always will. It's always hard for me to pick favorites, but RE4 will always be a contender for that title. in fact, I've been going through it again recently, nearly 60 complete play throughs. Not a stitch on speedrunners, but I'm proud of it.
Classic game. I still enjoy playing it. The game holds up really well after all these years. It is awesome.
Its a great game and a great Resident Evil game. The reason I say it's a good RE game is because even though it does not do virtually anything to move the story forward it brought one of the characters that we had not seen since RE2 back and basically showed us what he had been doing since then and it also brought Ada back which was how they tied Umbrella into all this. I would say I agree with like 80% of the video however, the RE fan in me loves this game. RE 4 is my all time favorite RE game and all time favorite game PERIOD!
I get that and trust me, I agree it's a great game, but I think your comment illustrates this point pretty well. In reading your comment, I realized that you just successfully described every part of the story that had to do with the overall RE universe, in just 2 sentences. My point is, when you can do that, maybe those parts of the story aren't that important. See what I mean?
Avalanche Reviews I see what you mean. I still love the fact that they slapped an RE title on the game and I love the change the series took just for this game though. Not for RE5 or RE6 though.
The jokes and writing were great. Perfect for the era and still makes me laugh when I go back and play. It wasn’t that bad.
Yeah I mostly like the video but his comment on the humor comes off as extremely dismissive, as if anyone with a different opinion on the writing is just trying to force themselves to like every aspect of the games. I don’t even really love the game’s humor but I thought that was strange.
I’m actually worried the remake will be TOO serious and leave out the cheese.
"15 hours."
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed how long this game was by comparison to other RE entries. I agree it became formulaic after I while and I had wished it had a shorter length, especially with the predictable QTE's and box breaking. It was a fine game in its own right, but definitely NOT my ideal RE game.
Looks like we see eye to eye
Aaaaand... RE3 Reamek is only 5 hours! :D
I remember playing this game for the first time on my ps2 got it on a Friday night after school and didn’t come out of my room the whole entire weekend once I started it I just couldn’t put it down and played it until I beat it! And still to this day it is one of my favorite games ever and still enjoy playing it on my Xbox one now and is just as fun as ever I can still get lost in this game for hours. I can’t think of any other that I have played for this long and still consider one of the best ever and can compete with over the half the games released today and that’s saying something for a game this old now!
I had the same reaction when it came out on the gamecube. I still love playing 4 to this day, but I do notice some flaws that were better addressed in the games that came after it.
To be honest, I never cared less how much this did or didn't need to have the RE name attatched to it, it came out at a time where REmake bombed despite being an absolute classic and fan reactions to Code Veronica showed people were getting tired of the old RE formula, they had to re-invent at some point after 6 main releases with the same style, 4 was a much needed move at the time.
I never had issues with the scarce references of past entries, they were just neat reminders of where everything came from and how it lead to this point.
Fantastic retrospective! I'm still having a blast watching it!
Don't disrespect RE 4 title announcer, that dude a legend
Hands down best game in the series
This game is a masterpiece
The part where you talk about the fans being told what to like by journalists was a very tasteful hot take, I've said that myself for years. I've always seen this game as a DMC game with a RE skin.
What you like is what you like. The problem is guys like Jared that feel the need to be contrary to what journalists say
You said it yourself you like what you like. I don't feel the need, I just voice the onion just how you're doing rk.
What made 4 not only great but reach the realm of a timeless classic is how it blended its horror and more action elements both ins set pieces and locations, to its mechanics and gameplay
Re 4 has some legitimate good horror moments from Salazars bodyguard who looks the alien from alien isolation and stalks you thru the sewers and then the boss on the suspension crates near the end and he'll even at times in the village just hearing slamming and thuds and not knowing where it they are coming from or when you hear the God damn chain saw, it's not the scariest by any means but for someone like me who is a scaredy cat it definitely had its moments