Thank you for watching if you want me to make more detailed class explanations comment below which ones. Thank you Struggler for the helpful insight. Struggler - / @strugglertow
@@Tmac_TFW thanks for the reply, currently sever is at 60 I have to wait tell 65 to change. You have tips at this level? I have been focusing on getting +15 gear with free spirals and event also starline I always watched your vid on that. Thanks for all the vids you do they really help!
@@karmaleytracey4173 save your free spirals for accessory enhances and don't worry too much about rushing things. Make sure to save your resources for the future not strong now weak later.
Um no. I mentioned in the video summoner is at least a B tier dps. Although the issue with that is that summoner can not truly reach its full dps potential currently so I do not know if it would go in A tier or B .
Honestly, spirit master is worse than berserker, Timur. Spirit master is one of the worst classes in PvE situations literally due to the fact that the game's mechanics don't go well with arama. In some instances, teams won't even accept spirit masters because they're too much of a burden to the team, in some cases literally decreasing the overall DPS potential, unless the spirit master cuts into their own DPS potential. Also, the more DPS and, I assume, greater survivability statements aren't true at all. Tmac forgets to state this in his video, but berserker has the same strength +30 warmount skill as kensei has, with berserker having the advantage of their active warmount skill having a huge area of effect, enemy ATK decrease and selfheal effects. This compared to kensei's higher damage capabilities. Do not forget gate of time is also PvE, where berserker easily out damages spirit master due to berserker's area of effect capabilities. And when it comes to everywhere, berserker will always have greater survivability. There's sword strike, which can heal up to 40% of maximum health. There's protection of light, which heals around 15% of max health. There's the active warmount skill, bloodthirsty snarl, which heals 20% of warmount's health. And there's actually also the warmount strength +20 skill, recovery, which converts 20% of the excess healing of class and warmount skills into warmount health, as if it didn't have enough healing capabilities already. Berserker also has a defense boost. In comparison, spirit master has sundoll and healing tune. As the warmount skill of spirit master heals your arama, but not you nor your warmount. Arama is currently so fragile that healing it with warmount skill doesn't matter truly that much... And then there's also the fact that healing tune would require you to sacrifice a skill which does damage, as healing tune only truly heals. I don't remember what the warmount strength skills were of spirit master, but it doesn't truly matter. Honestly, I would reflect your statement back to you: You have not met a good berserker. Both spirit masters and berserkers are among the least played class, so it's not that weird if you haven't met a good one. However, don't just assume based on you loving a class. As I have played spirit master myself for a very long time, but I eventually changed because there's no denying that the class is broken in its current state.
@@SnowCalmth summoner with damage % buffs from stigma awaken and sundoll along with coercion from awaken tree will do more damage than berserker with transforms. I have seen berserker in action and it is really not as bad as everyone thinks although it is not better than a coercion summoner.
@@Tmac_TFW Thanks for making my point? The moment you choose to transform, your Arama will die, which will require you to resummon it and lose precious time and by that damage. Assuming you're having an equal spirit master and berserker, you won't be able to regain the lost time and damage, as the DPS of spirit master and berserker are nearly identical. Besides of that, you're saying you have seen a berserker (singular, uh?) in action, which begs me to ask the question who that would be. I have seen both in action, especially as my guild leader is literally the number 2 (technically even number 1) ranked spirit master of EU-1, and I would be literally willing to put my hands in fire over the fact that berserkers are better in PvE than spirit masters. As you kind of made me aware that your tier list isn't about PvE at all by stating that spirit masters do more damage and nothing really beyond that. Which isn't actually true according to many players, but more than just that, it's not all that matters when it comes to PvE. Survivability is a big part too, and in gate of time spirit masters are usually the first to die, while berserkers nearly never do. Because of that, berserker almost always end up with way higher damage in gate of time compared to spirit masters. However, going back to transform part, you're also assuming that the spirit master has actually proper transforms, which isn't always the case. Which again makes clear that you're not talking about a proper tier list of classes in PvE, as that is as situational as it can be. At least kensei and berserker with the strength +30 warmount is something that is a given, while transforms are highly dependent on the person's preferences. And you could say that you look at it with the assumption that they do use good transforms, but then it would still apply that transforms aren't something that are about the classes itself... When it comes to PvE, you would be assuming all possible situations, meaning both groups play and solo, while also looking at all PvE situations. Same for every possible build that is possible to make. Think for example a solo ninja with a dodge build, which actually works really well in PvE if you don't have to worry about a team taking away your aggro. Seeing as your list is made together with Struggler, I would have assumed you took those sort of situations into the equation too, as he told me in the past he preferred solo play. But looking at what you say, that is not the case at all. I would sincerely advice you to watch the video of Hetpet and either rethink your tier list, or call it a damage list instead...
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What do u think pyromancer or berserker ? Idk what i will choce so can you help a little 😅
Pyromancer
I know this is a old, but I’m stuck between kensei and asura. What are they like end game and will be more valuable especially solo content
Asura is a lot better than Kensei in the end game. Currently Kensei is hardly played by anyone
@@Tmac_TFW thanks for the reply, currently sever is at 60 I have to wait tell 65 to change. You have tips at this level? I have been focusing on getting +15 gear with free spirals and event also starline I always watched your vid on that. Thanks for all the vids you do they really help!
@@karmaleytracey4173 save your free spirals for accessory enhances and don't worry too much about rushing things. Make sure to save your resources for the future not strong now weak later.
Natsu class should be Ex tier
lol cat always dies xD summoner has their own tier now
Goated
Nicee 😁
Man, really, you set berserker higher to summoner? You not meet good summoner. They give more dps, and, can be alive, just forget a merge.
Um no. I mentioned in the video summoner is at least a B tier dps. Although the issue with that is that summoner can not truly reach its full dps potential currently so I do not know if it would go in A tier or B .
Honestly, spirit master is worse than berserker, Timur. Spirit master is one of the worst classes in PvE situations literally due to the fact that the game's mechanics don't go well with arama. In some instances, teams won't even accept spirit masters because they're too much of a burden to the team, in some cases literally decreasing the overall DPS potential, unless the spirit master cuts into their own DPS potential.
Also, the more DPS and, I assume, greater survivability statements aren't true at all.
Tmac forgets to state this in his video, but berserker has the same strength +30 warmount skill as kensei has, with berserker having the advantage of their active warmount skill having a huge area of effect, enemy ATK decrease and selfheal effects. This compared to kensei's higher damage capabilities. Do not forget gate of time is also PvE, where berserker easily out damages spirit master due to berserker's area of effect capabilities.
And when it comes to everywhere, berserker will always have greater survivability.
There's sword strike, which can heal up to 40% of maximum health. There's protection of light, which heals around 15% of max health. There's the active warmount skill, bloodthirsty snarl, which heals 20% of warmount's health. And there's actually also the warmount strength +20 skill, recovery, which converts 20% of the excess healing of class and warmount skills into warmount health, as if it didn't have enough healing capabilities already. Berserker also has a defense boost.
In comparison, spirit master has sundoll and healing tune. As the warmount skill of spirit master heals your arama, but not you nor your warmount. Arama is currently so fragile that healing it with warmount skill doesn't matter truly that much... And then there's also the fact that healing tune would require you to sacrifice a skill which does damage, as healing tune only truly heals. I don't remember what the warmount strength skills were of spirit master, but it doesn't truly matter.
Honestly, I would reflect your statement back to you: You have not met a good berserker.
Both spirit masters and berserkers are among the least played class, so it's not that weird if you haven't met a good one. However, don't just assume based on you loving a class. As I have played spirit master myself for a very long time, but I eventually changed because there's no denying that the class is broken in its current state.
@@Tmac_TFW Spirit master shouldn't be on the same or higher level than berserker, to be honest...
@@SnowCalmth summoner with damage % buffs from stigma awaken and sundoll along with coercion from awaken tree will do more damage than berserker with transforms. I have seen berserker in action and it is really not as bad as everyone thinks although it is not better than a coercion summoner.
@@Tmac_TFW Thanks for making my point? The moment you choose to transform, your Arama will die, which will require you to resummon it and lose precious time and by that damage. Assuming you're having an equal spirit master and berserker, you won't be able to regain the lost time and damage, as the DPS of spirit master and berserker are nearly identical.
Besides of that, you're saying you have seen a berserker (singular, uh?) in action, which begs me to ask the question who that would be. I have seen both in action, especially as my guild leader is literally the number 2 (technically even number 1) ranked spirit master of EU-1, and I would be literally willing to put my hands in fire over the fact that berserkers are better in PvE than spirit masters. As you kind of made me aware that your tier list isn't about PvE at all by stating that spirit masters do more damage and nothing really beyond that. Which isn't actually true according to many players, but more than just that, it's not all that matters when it comes to PvE. Survivability is a big part too, and in gate of time spirit masters are usually the first to die, while berserkers nearly never do. Because of that, berserker almost always end up with way higher damage in gate of time compared to spirit masters.
However, going back to transform part, you're also assuming that the spirit master has actually proper transforms, which isn't always the case. Which again makes clear that you're not talking about a proper tier list of classes in PvE, as that is as situational as it can be. At least kensei and berserker with the strength +30 warmount is something that is a given, while transforms are highly dependent on the person's preferences. And you could say that you look at it with the assumption that they do use good transforms, but then it would still apply that transforms aren't something that are about the classes itself...
When it comes to PvE, you would be assuming all possible situations, meaning both groups play and solo, while also looking at all PvE situations. Same for every possible build that is possible to make. Think for example a solo ninja with a dodge build, which actually works really well in PvE if you don't have to worry about a team taking away your aggro. Seeing as your list is made together with Struggler, I would have assumed you took those sort of situations into the equation too, as he told me in the past he preferred solo play. But looking at what you say, that is not the case at all. I would sincerely advice you to watch the video of Hetpet and either rethink your tier list, or call it a damage list instead...
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