Why is Venture being IGNORED in Overwatch 2?

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  • @SakuyalzayoiTheMaid
    @SakuyalzayoiTheMaid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1683

    making a whole ancient egypt themed season and NOT including the archeologist is fucking wild.

    • @joshuamartinez-go2hr
      @joshuamartinez-go2hr หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      W take

    • @Ragebaitingu
      @Ragebaitingu หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@joshuamartinez-go2hrmore like cold ass safe take that everyone says

    • @jblazerndrowzy
      @jblazerndrowzy หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@RagebaitinguBro said it was a good take, not a hot one

    • @Ragebaitingu
      @Ragebaitingu หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jblazerndrowzy not really when everyone and their fucking dog says it

    • @Ragebaitingu
      @Ragebaitingu หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jblazerndrowzy take implies a controversial opinion this is not controversial

  • @aoki6643
    @aoki6643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +952

    Blizzard when the character isn't hammer knight or a perky girl in a catsuit

    • @doriangrayest
      @doriangrayest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      or White Rambo or Edgy Sasukelords

    • @mysticmavie
      @mysticmavie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      or a blue lady

    • @tachytwo2534
      @tachytwo2534 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Damm I didint know yall saw torb zaria and wrecking ball like that

    • @doriangrayest
      @doriangrayest หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@tachytwo2534 its kinda true I mean Junker Queen legendary skins on release were capital G Garbage

    • @vamirinoon
      @vamirinoon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tachytwo2534 I mean they do barely get any cosmetics

  • @MeesaiD
    @MeesaiD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2471

    Maybe Venture will get a skin after Kiri gets 15 more

    • @Alya9673
      @Alya9673 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      they will get a skin in season 14

    • @blightedspirit6619
      @blightedspirit6619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      ​@@Alya9673stupidly long for a character to get a single legendary skin.

    • @catalinbostan3542
      @catalinbostan3542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Hopefully not.
      Kiri sells,Venture doesn't.
      Hopefully Venture gets the nerf hammer AND gets forgotten by Blizzard

    • @lunaticbeans8600
      @lunaticbeans8600 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@blightedspirit6619At this point, i'll take what i can get.

    • @dragonhitman1071
      @dragonhitman1071 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mabey when Juno gets her 10th.

  • @CybersaurusRex
    @CybersaurusRex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1948

    venture was a diversity hire, they wanted points for non binary and then completely neglected them

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

      So you're saying Blizzard is lgbtphobic and that's bad? I can totally agree to that.

    • @CybersaurusRex
      @CybersaurusRex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

      @@PlatinumAltaria yes

    • @CybersaurusRex
      @CybersaurusRex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      @@MaeMay13 absolutely correct, never stated otherwise.

    • @MaeMay13
      @MaeMay13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@CybersaurusRex then why are you complaining about Venture? Who cares if they're Non-binary? Overwatch is full of diverse characters

    • @CybersaurusRex
      @CybersaurusRex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      @@MaeMay13 you're missing the point of what I said.

  • @EnigmaMachine94
    @EnigmaMachine94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +624

    There was such an opportunity for a cool Venture skin this season since it’s supposed to be ancient Egypt themed.

    • @cakepires
      @cakepires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      or coulda given them the midoriya skin. Seriously, Midoriya tracer looks so shit and haunts me in my dreams.
      Venture's personality works way better with Midoriya's than Tracer's. And overall character shape too. Tracer just looks like one of those cringe ass cosplayers.
      and I say personalities match better as an argument bc that's what rein ass kissers were using as an argument against Rammatra All Might.
      overwatch pisses me off man, ugh

    • @LieutenantTryhard
      @LieutenantTryhard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@cakepires I personally think Venture would fit better as someone Like Overhaul ngl Or Mirio but that's purely based off of the abilities tbh

    • @dragonite9142
      @dragonite9142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@LieutenantTryhard yo i never thought about that friken mirio venture or overhaul remattra would have made me play the game again

    • @sesqwe1693
      @sesqwe1693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What skin would she had gotten?

    • @heyfell4301
      @heyfell4301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cakepiresI think Tracer fits with Midoriya, but c'mon at least give them *SOMETHING.* Bakugo's personality doesn't fit but the hairstyle is similar and Venture deals with explosions, or if they didn't wanna do that they could at least give them something like Kirishima or Overhaul, anything's better than nothing!

  • @hasheeeesh
    @hasheeeesh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +807

    Don’t forget Mauga too, ik he’s not new in the lore but he is really pecked up

    • @sircruz1
      @sircruz1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      Mauga was a fan favorite before Overwatch two was even a thing

    • @dantevic
      @dantevic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      ​@@sircruz1 yea and then he became one if the most hated characters after he came out.

    • @friendlyfire3412
      @friendlyfire3412 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@sircruz1 Bastion Turret : Aight I was bad but hoyl sh I never thought Somebody would steal that away from me
      Even though they ruined my whole darn existence by removing my Tank Form....

    • @mikcas
      @mikcas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      well hes literally pecced up

    • @MaeMay13
      @MaeMay13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I'm waiting for Mauga's Talon Heavy Gunner skin so bad

  • @insertjojosreference8654
    @insertjojosreference8654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +514

    Scuba diver venture with a splash effect when venture digs underground would actually go hard

    • @sketch-eee4165
      @sketch-eee4165 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Trully a woomy moment.

    • @jothompson7610
      @jothompson7610 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      VEEMO

    • @Holy_Toaster69
      @Holy_Toaster69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you should work at blizzard

    • @ledot2037
      @ledot2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@sketch-eee4165 You just awoke a very obscure memory lmao

    • @mysticmavie
      @mysticmavie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ledot2037 it doesn't have to be just a memory.... join the woomy army in Splatoon 3

  • @SuperBananaPete
    @SuperBananaPete 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1211

    Man, overwatch went from game of the year in 2016 to a skin collecting game and the gameplay is just a side project

    • @tdobarron1
      @tdobarron1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Truly a shame

    • @DarthAngel2
      @DarthAngel2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      How the mighty has fallen

    • @luxxers
      @luxxers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      honestly this happens to any game. Valorant, TF2, Dead By Daylight, League of Legends. All games in different genres yet they are all filled with skins and monetization.

    • @orbaitv5991
      @orbaitv5991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I'm glad I left last year. They ruined it.

    • @teo-7242
      @teo-7242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Back in 2016 all of the Characters were still straight

  • @connor.chan.jazzman
    @connor.chan.jazzman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +579

    Blizzard really out here treating Venture like a DEI hire instead of a character

    • @Benji94701
      @Benji94701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

      she literally was made for DEI so it fits lmao

    • @nicelight7794
      @nicelight7794 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@Benji94701 how do you know that, though? ya'll just claim a character must surely have been made all for or mostly just for DEI, but that's just an assumption. one that damn near always gets made when brown/black/queer characters get added to some media.
      it's not strictly impossible that Venture was added partially out of interest to appeal to diversity -- in fact I think that did play a part in their creation. but i feel like even if Venture was super well integrated into the lore and had a lot of skins ppl would still be like "oh the DEI character" just because they're nonbinary. seems questionable

    • @lesnarahamilton5674
      @lesnarahamilton5674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@nicelight7794 well part of why people know that because people were told to ban people from streams who get her pronouns wrong by team overwatch on twitter.

    • @nicelight7794
      @nicelight7794 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lesnarahamilton5674 regardless of if that happened (not saying i don't believe you, tho i would like a link to the tweet), that doesn't confirm what we were talking about. their official socmed ppl showing support for nonbinary ppl (knowing there were/are loads of ppl who intentionally don't refer to the hero properly to offend nonbinary ppl) does not "confirm" the hero is a "no-good DEI insert" or however some ppl are characterizing them.
      one of the most popular OW streamers Flats made a popular TikTok back in April where he explained the approach most ppl ought to take. (@flats_ow/video/7357936944493497642) he even clarifies he has no reason to ban someone for slipping into it, it only becomes an issue if it's pretty obvious someone's trying to be rude.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You literally described the "character"

  • @PiousPuddle
    @PiousPuddle หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    6:30 this point aged like wine.
    Considering what happened with kikiro on how they advertised her “grippers” on her new skin

  • @bubbatheblueberry
    @bubbatheblueberry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1092

    Honestly hear me out on this. A paleontologist Venture skin would go hard (imo). A dino skull helmet or outfit would fit.

    • @tdobarron1
      @tdobarron1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY GO HARD

    • @neaverthereaver3149
      @neaverthereaver3149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Like the scientist from garden warfare

    • @Animadness-h7a
      @Animadness-h7a 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Definitely absolutely 100%

    • @xdgamer0189
      @xdgamer0189 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I would love this as a huge dino fan ngl

    • @TheBrickSquad11
      @TheBrickSquad11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Or like a archeology skin with like old omnics or something

  • @quietchap
    @quietchap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +596

    The concept of making a miner skin for Venture is RIGHT THERE. Give them a hard hat, put soot on their face, and a pickaxe on their coat. Boom- a skin that works with the drill, and would be super easy to implement.

    • @neaverthereaver3149
      @neaverthereaver3149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Rock and stone

    • @theonewhoasked8407
      @theonewhoasked8407 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      That's probably what the skin is going to be tbh
      Months of waiting just for the creative mind to come up with the miner skin

    • @yondersennn
      @yondersennn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Drill=Gurren Lagann
      Idk why are they taking so much time

    • @i.Froggy03
      @i.Froggy03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@neaverthereaver3149 ROCK AND STONE

    • @GaaraFPS
      @GaaraFPS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neaverthereaver3149rock and stone!!!

  • @nevrmelt6781
    @nevrmelt6781 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +552

    "I don't think the sexualization of a character has been quite as bad as juno"
    Widowmaker:

    • @Phoenix-sc6di
      @Phoenix-sc6di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tbf, Widow is kind of a Femme Fatale, I think it fits her to a degree and she owns it. Juno is just another borderline underage looking girl with an overly pronounced bubble butt.

    • @noterobrine9921
      @noterobrine9921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

      With Widowmaker, it makes sense. She's kinda like a femme fatale type of character, it works in a way... But Juno?

    • @BlacIyc
      @BlacIyc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@noterobrine9921 sex appeal doesn't need to be tied to ur character

    • @noterobrine9921
      @noterobrine9921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      @@BlacIyc Femme fatale is an archetype of a character that uses her femininity, erotic nature and sex appeal to dominate people and take control of the situation to get what they want or to be stronger and come on-top, Widowmaker is definitely that type of character, one example is that highlight intro where she blows you a kiss then knocks you to the ground
      It makes sense why she's a curvy character that has a more sensual and enticing design, this is a character that makes sense to be sexualized in a way (even if some people can argue that it isn't right to objectify women)
      But Juno is a bubbly space ranger who's a goofball interested in exploring Earth, her movements and animation indicate that she's very floaty with her body, possibly due to her hoverboots (Like how Lucio slides around the place due to his skates) So why exactly is her spacesuit skin tight? You can even see in the beta design she used to have a bit more armor (In the thighs for example) but it got removed

    • @BlacIyc
      @BlacIyc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@noterobrine9921 buddy the essay was not needed, I know wat a femme fatale is and I got ur point the first time.
      "Widow has an excuse to be sexy cuz she's a femme fatale, Juno doesn't"
      U don't need a lore reason to make a sexy character + her skinsuit makes just as much sense as widow and tracer in skin suits, she's a mobile support. her suit makes perfect sense

  • @snkdzhumaliev1178
    @snkdzhumaliev1178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +551

    Why are people so scared or afraid to talk about the sexualization of characters nowadays? Overwatch literally got the most of its fanbase, due to the sexy girls and cool looking men

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Gigantic moon gorilla says your theory is wrong.

    • @livamyyo
      @livamyyo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ew a flaggy. Back you go twittard

    • @negentropyagent7337
      @negentropyagent7337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

      ​@@PlatinumAltariauntil you realize that some people are into that shit

    • @calus_bath_water
      @calus_bath_water 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PlatinumAltariathere is definetly somebody out there who would fuck winton

    • @TheAtomicWarrior
      @TheAtomicWarrior 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The only good thing OVERWATCH has going nowadays is the character design

  • @AuraWing31
    @AuraWing31 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +713

    venture is a collective hallucination at this point

    • @ReadilyAvailibleChomper
      @ReadilyAvailibleChomper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Venture? Who’s Venture. There never was a Venture. Wake up…

    • @mikcas
      @mikcas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      this is the funniest thing ive heard tn underrated comment

    • @sovereignblastoise6767
      @sovereignblastoise6767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AuraWing31 kinda like Concord ya know the game where it should have been

    • @pepsiorcoke3570
      @pepsiorcoke3570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed, there seems to be a mass hallucination where in people refer to HER as They/Them. Really weird

    • @planetlazuli7626
      @planetlazuli7626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@pepsiorcoke3570 Aren’t hallucinations auditory and visual things? I think what you’re describing is hysteria. Also if you google venture you can actually see her pronouns are actually they/them! Just in case you were clueless

  • @Gen-Jin
    @Gen-Jin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    I think another big reason why certain characters receive more attention and love than others is the gameplay and role. Most Mercy and Kiriko mains are going to spend the big bucks on getting the latest new skins because not only do they look "cute" but also because they are most likely going to play those characters. Support does not have much variety compared to the DPS role in which Venture kind of fills out a niche role in that category. It also does not help that Venture isn't exactly a fun character to fight against and that they probably have a low pick rate. Most support mains are going to naturally gravitate towards Juno because it's another "cute" healer that they can expand too.

    • @cakepires
      @cakepires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah man, i want a fucking MALE SUPPORT to release. Like, don't get me wrong, I love baptiste, have a lot of fun on Lúcio and I dabble a fair enough amount on Lifeweaver. (not counting Zen bc my boy has balls but no...well he's an omnic. lol)
      and apart from those guys, i love playing ana and moira. So blizzard better give me a new female support that isn't a nuisance (kiriko's annoying as fuck in game) or under 30 (I don't like mercy, for the record), or they give me my juicy sexy male support. (if they finna sexualize a literal child, might as well sexualize an age appropriate man)

  • @ves5657
    @ves5657 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The irony is that there is SO MUCH really good thirst trap art of venture on tumblr. If u want to make a sexy venture skin it's not hard to figure out how.

    • @what6298
      @what6298 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I saw a motorcycle skin for venture and holy moly, they looked so hot

    • @misterthiqu2449
      @misterthiqu2449 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @ves5657 "thirst trap" sex and gender are different right? Sex sells so which sex would venture be appealing to? Venture may be a non binary gender but there's only 2 sexs, male and female.

  • @PockyUni
    @PockyUni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Maybe the skins for Venture were the friends we made along the way

  • @DCWProduction
    @DCWProduction 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    FYI, Jet Black, from Cowboy BeBop, was called "Black Dog", because once he got his teeth in, he didn't let go, which works with Mauga since they both get tunnel vision when doing what they like, also Mauga is very smart as well.

    • @zoomspilo6798
      @zoomspilo6798 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah Mauga is supposed to be like the master strategist of Talon

  • @TeaLweaf
    @TeaLweaf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +398

    Just wanted to add my lil tidbit in here, but I do geniunely believe it's due to blizzard being scared to make any skins for them due to their gender identity, I mean if you put them in a dress or a suit people are just gotta be like "oh he's a he"/"she's a she" because of a/b skin, or even misrepresenting nonbinaries with skins (silly I know but eggshells are usually want companies stand on with these kinds of things.) D:

    • @AAJillSandwich
      @AAJillSandwich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Suits for women exist such as what they did with the Queen mob boss skin. Venture is an archeologist so they could do a lot of archeology inspired outfits which have always been very gender neutral. Or pick a theme like ancient Sumer or maybe Egyptian which allow for more creativity. Plenty of options Blizzard could go with. I don't believe Blizzard is that creatively bankrupt they didn't consider these things. It's more likely that Venture is simply not popular as other characters which is why she gets no skins. Especially with how bloated the hero pool is.

    • @jimmy__7161
      @jimmy__7161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      They could always go for different fields of study as skins, androgynous mythological characters, and such

    • @rossGrett
      @rossGrett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I don't think that's necessarily true because of having a non binary person in the game was going to be difficult why would they even make her non binary in the first place? They put themselves in that situation knowing what would be of it. Also I don't think making a skin for venture is really an issue with people thinking they're a she or he because at the end of the day it's a fake character a clump a pixels who tf cares if someone misgenders them im not trying to mean this in a hurtful way but really what is the harm of misgendering lines of codes in a videogame. I think the issue is she is such a horribly design character she is an archeologist and non binary that's it nothing else is really common info about her which is the blandest thing ever it's like if they re released tracer but the only thing known about her is that she is a lesbian and British. You need actual lore for people to get on board Juno + mauga have lore with their characters so that's why they're looked at and played more than venture.

    • @terrariku2010
      @terrariku2010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If that is their logic, then frankly Blizzard is stupid. The whole point of attention seeking calling yourself non-binary is to loudly state you don't give a shit about the binary nature of gender. Nevermind the fact more women label themselves this than men ... But it opens Venture up for more skins, not less.

    • @RageKroc888
      @RageKroc888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      But by this logic what is the point of Ventures design? decent default look but completely unskinnable. seems like s stupid design choice if Blizzard can't even squeeze a skin out for it.

  • @gusronalds7484
    @gusronalds7484 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    I actually hard disagree with 11:10. I DO think venture being non-binary does play a big role in them not getting skins, and this is coming from someone who likes Venture.
    1. Venture being non-binary means it's difficult to give them skins that isn't covering their entire body. I believe Venture was created to be gender-ambigious. And because of that, I think Blizzard has to design skins for them that have them covered up. Multiple layers of clothing = more complex designs = more development time, Which could have been used on another character.
    2. Venture being non-binary will inherently make their playerbase smaller. It's unfortunate but some people will not play them, or buy their skins because of it.
    3. Like you said, the 'attractive' appeal of them is heavily subjective but I think Blizzard trying to have that 'ambiguous gender' design (because they are non-binary) will inherently mean that only a small amount of people will like their design.
    This is not meant as non-binary hate or anything, but I strongly believe that Venture being non-binary limits both their audience and their design for the skin makers.

    • @Rando3210
      @Rando3210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      this is like saying bastion cant get skins (because his transformations make it hard to make skins for), and even if it was harder to design good skins for them they would still get skins. Also people dont care about a heros identity at all, if they did no one would play soldier or tracer, and its not like people dont play heros that dont represent themselves, men play ashe a lot, and women play liveweaver a lot. The reason venture is less popular is because there kit design is not for everyone, it was the same with doomfist in ow1, doom had similar pick rates.

    • @xXunknownXx0000
      @xXunknownXx0000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Actually true juno got a skin fast asf because they know she will sell😂

    • @gusronalds7484
      @gusronalds7484 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@Rando3210 Well sadly there is hate for Venture, TDO even mentioned it at 11:13 that there is a lot of hate for them, except he believes that doesn't affect skins, but I do. Bastion is a very angular robot, with tons of room for cosmetics, not really comparable in this scenario. And sure, people probably dont care about a hero's identity, thats why you still see people call Cassidy, Mcree. Or call Venture a She instead of Them. What people do have greater control over is how they spend their money. And I think Blizzard knows people would rather spend their money on a popular hero like Kiriko, than a niche NB character like Venture. Sad, but probably true.

    • @jumpingmoose5554
      @jumpingmoose5554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks for keeping it 100

    • @Rando3210
      @Rando3210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gusronalds7484 him saying something is not proof of hate, i have heard literally heard no one inside the community care about them being non binary once, not saying there isnt any but its not any more than than the hate towards lesbians or something. Plus even if there was hate, most the community doesnt care and would still buy skins for them.
      Its obvious the reason venture doesnt get skins is because of the development cycle, if it was because of there identity liveweaver would have gotten no skins. If they thought a non binary character would sell worse, and they wouldnt give it skins because of that, they wouldnt made them like that in the first place.
      Also you keep saying its hard to design skins for them when we have seen concept art for there skins and they look fine, again even if it was harder to design skins that shouldnt affect the development because even if they were worse they would still make them. They also wouldnt give a hero a design they thought would be to hard to make skins for. Bastion is much harder to design skins for because of his transformations btw, i should have communicated that better.

  • @Daavel
    @Daavel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    they made this character to appeal to non-binary people, but overlooked the fact they designed the character to look gender neutral and can be percieved as either a boy or a girl, so now the devs have an issue with making skins that stay gender neutral because they most definitely would make skins that would be revealing the shapes of the character, not neccessarily their skin but clothes that would show the shapes a bit more and the devs now don't know what to do because and what body figures to choose that also keeps their artstyle intact

    • @benji7275
      @benji7275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      this 100%, also they created a character to appeal to a tiny minority of the fan base, wow i wonder why she has the lowest pick rate.
      also i have yet to meet a hardcore venture main? people who main venture are obviously gonna buy skins but i bet she has a super low "main rate" if you know what i mean

    • @Daavel
      @Daavel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Beepbeepbeep12 i play the character and i just call the character whatever pronouns come to my head i couldn’t careless, if character looks female and sounds female to me i say she, if i was truly mad about the pronouns i wouldn’t play the character at all, rn this character is one of my mains

    • @cakepires
      @cakepires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      guess they shouldn't have fired like half the design team huh

    • @doriangrayest
      @doriangrayest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@benji7275 I only play ball and I agree with you because Hammond was released for people like me that identify as a rat
      Incels will always complain about any character design that isnt a version of white Rambo, edgy sasukeish or a hot girl

    • @ledot2037
      @ledot2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have plenty of skin ideas for Venture and I'm not a Blizzard creative designer, it can't be that hard man

  • @Arlondev
    @Arlondev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    >venture doesn't get picked because they're not sexually appealing
    >Reinhardt and Ana have the highest pickrate and therefore get the most skins
    ergo; Ana and Reinhardt are the most sexually appealing characters in the entire game (hard agree)

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ana does have young skins here and there
      And Rein's always been seen as attractive even if he's armored

    • @Oh-Ben
      @Oh-Ben หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Rein is peak male figure.

    • @lello2031
      @lello2031 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Oh-Ben it's roadhouse. But I understand because he has unrealistic male standards.

  • @noelsoong777
    @noelsoong777 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Bastion the sexiest character that's why i keep seeing him in my games.

    • @10XSeiga
      @10XSeiga หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah the argument falls flat p quick😅

  • @trimaxusrez3714
    @trimaxusrez3714 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Love the video, but I’ve got to disagree here 2:43 In terms of popularity Toga is definitely more popular than All for one, however in terms of canon relevance All for one is definitely ahead.

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Seriously, AFO is a demon yes but Toga would and will sell more then him.

    • @NuffyPlaysGames
      @NuffyPlaysGames 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@rossjones8656 but it just adds to the fire that blizzard only cares about money. that all for one doom concept would have been lightyears more cool and unique

  • @vampyisdying
    @vampyisdying 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    I’ve seen so many cool concepts for venture skins hell even a legendary MUMMY SKIN would be cool

    • @spaceguy564
      @spaceguy564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can already hear the outrage from people for misgendering Venture by giving it a 'mummy' skin.
      I love clown world xD

  • @mizoik9893
    @mizoik9893 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I still want family guy crossover so that sombra gets quagmire skin and you can just say giggity when you're invisible instead of boop

    • @cakepires
      @cakepires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      what the sigma- fuck you for planting that in my head. NOW I WANT IT TOO DAMNIT

    • @lukaslilley9917
      @lukaslilley9917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Peter griffin road hog 💀

    • @senatorarmstrong1233
      @senatorarmstrong1233 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hear me out. A Joe Sigma skin. He can throw chunks of his old wheelchair at you

  • @worm11112
    @worm11112 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    venture shouldve at the very least got a dinosaur skin for halloween cause fossils and dinosaur scary

  • @ink3487
    @ink3487 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    6:20 not ONLY did they do that they REMOVED parts of the legwear she was wearing in her concept art to MAKE ROOM FOR IT.

  • @benthompson6188
    @benthompson6188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +545

    I’ll say it, I’m sick of all the Rein skins

    • @tdobarron1
      @tdobarron1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      Go ahead, this is a safe space

    • @wingwall7892
      @wingwall7892 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Preach!

    • @theshadowmaster2702
      @theshadowmaster2702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Reinhardt player here. I cant even break in my new collab skins because they keep giving him more. I like and buy them but it’s overwhelming and I didn’t even get enough time to appreciate the Optimus Prime one. Literally had Lich King on for like 2 seconds.

    • @AmentioProductions
      @AmentioProductions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yeah it's getting overwhelming. All the main characters I play keep getting So many skins, like Rein, Kiri, Reaper (To a degree), and Now Juno. I just want really cool skins for Ram or Lifeweaver, which Blizzard missed so many times to give them skins (All-Might Ram or Anubis Ram, or Spellweaver LifeWeaver)

    • @kharizma1734
      @kharizma1734 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      All these rein skins and they still haven’t brought back the imperius skin :(

  • @bonehead7711
    @bonehead7711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    JUSTICE FOR RAMATTRA!!! My boy should have gotten a mythic wizard skin ;-;

    • @friendlyfire3412
      @friendlyfire3412 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Im sorry but Blizzard cared about Actual Skins long time ago. Right now its all nothing but moneeey!
      Anyway here is a another boring Kiriko Skin even though she is the worst person out of all overwatch...

    • @elliotr9095
      @elliotr9095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Please use Ram's pronouns, [][][] goes by [][][]/420.

    • @Annaliynn
      @Annaliynn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tf no💀

    • @bonehead7711
      @bonehead7711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Annaliynn as oppose to Widow getting what looks like a half baked legendary?

    • @Annaliynn
      @Annaliynn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bonehead7711 what does half baked legendary even mean and why don’t u just say widowmaker to make it easier

  • @rakeguy7703
    @rakeguy7703 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    Venture feels like a token character. When i think "Venturee" i think "Oh that person. Good for them!".
    But then i go back to my favorite interesting characters. I also dislike how Venture tries too hard to be "my personality is ROCKS! LOL! Haha! Dig! Dig! Dig! lol". Sure Tracer jokes about Time and Mei likes Ice jokes but there is much more behind that. Venture is a carboard comparing to them.

    • @doriangrayest
      @doriangrayest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I mean it is very recent and OW2 is a mess. I am not surprised Venture doesnt have a great deep interesting design. Illari also is a flat copy of LoL Sena

    • @alvin_row
      @alvin_row 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@doriangrayest OW2 has been pretty hit or miss in regards to character personalities and all of that imo. Ram is the most interesting of all the new heroes. His lore and voice lines are all top tier, and he's a great villain because it's easy to understand his point of view. There are some other cool characters, but most of them I feel are a bit like caricatures, or just bland.

    • @megamecha100
      @megamecha100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alvin_row well rammatra was also meant to be released in overwatch 1 I believe...

    • @devlintaylor9520
      @devlintaylor9520 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They dont even fit with the design of the rest of the characters. They dont look like someone from the game, more like a cross promo character. also the annoying voicelines

    • @rakeguy7703
      @rakeguy7703 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@devlintaylor9520 That's exactly what i thought. Venture feels like a character from a TV-show inside of Overwatch world.

  • @LuLuTheGremlin
    @LuLuTheGremlin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    You know it, I know it, Everybody knows it. Venture won't sell as many skins as Kiri or mercy. Don't forget Blizzard is a business first and they have to make money. It's logic.

    • @chakradarrat8832
      @chakradarrat8832 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      and now juno

    • @Phoenix-sc6di
      @Phoenix-sc6di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Once a business goes full on corporate, purges all the creativity, starts to focus only on safe and easy moneymaking like collabs, mtx, remakes and the likes, the hardcore fans leave and the mindless consumers take over. Always been that way. It works great short term, is passable mid term, but eventually they can't sustain their growth demand and wither away.

    • @benji7275
      @benji7275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      mean why is this even a question, she has an ugly design and is canonically non binary for virtue signal points, she fits right into concord's batch of characters lol
      she obviously has such a low pick rate so why would they make skins

    • @lesnarahamilton5674
      @lesnarahamilton5674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Phoenix-sc6di probloms with alot of games the last 4 years is they have not been going to safe choice compony ugly chars out of spite it dont sell and its gets abandend as they insult the gamers.

    • @Phoenix-sc6di
      @Phoenix-sc6di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lesnarahamilton5674 I don't think the "ugly character" debate is as big as a certain bubble believes it to be. It doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things. The real dangers are loss of innovation and agressive monetization.

  • @WinterPains
    @WinterPains หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I stopped playing during Season 8, and came back yesterdau and EVERY SINGLE ENDSCREEN has the team t-posing, and I cant see anyone for at least 30 seconds when I join

  • @otterpoppin
    @otterpoppin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    And to the people saying Blizzard just doesn't know what to do with Venture's drill specifically, and that it's why they're not getting skins...today I saw a giant thread on Twitter with 30+ fan-made skin concepts that integrate the drill weapon beautifully (turning it into leaves, snacks, stone etc.)...if fans can do it, the billion dollar company with staff specifically hired for game design should be able to figure SOMETHING out lol

  • @dillonrameraz7082
    @dillonrameraz7082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    My two cents, they made Venture so safe that no one wants to be that person to make a skin and get blasted for it.
    Blizzard put themselves in a lose/lose situation and I'm going for the low hanging fruit and say it's because Venture is non-binary.
    I'm sure they're triple checking for a skin idea that won't piss anyone if not everyone (even though blizzard does that anyways).
    They put out a skin that's even remotely misrepresentive in the eyes of the LGBTQ+ community it'll be a PR crapstorm for Blizzard.
    So by them making a character for representation they made a character for no on cuz no one wants to make everyone mad at them.

    • @RogerRoger897
      @RogerRoger897 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      That’s the thing tho they are non binary they could have so many skins for either gender

    • @flashmacintosh
      @flashmacintosh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I have a friend who bought a battle pass, JUST because it had a Venture emote

    • @otterpoppin
      @otterpoppin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Bro, you're acting like the LGBTQ+ community is gonna burn Blizz at the stake if they give Venture a hint of ankle. Like...I promise most of us just want some nice content for this amazing queer character, very few people would be upset about a well designed skin unless it's GENUINELY bad representation/casts NB people in a bad light somehow.

    • @katyamcadams
      @katyamcadams 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Honestly, Venture's personality seems to be the silly lil' goofball type (a good thing, silly lil' goofballs are amazing!), and I think Blizz should embrace it. There's a lot of ways to make cosmetics by being a bit silly.

    • @alexescorza8120
      @alexescorza8120 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      cant they just make skins for that include both genders i honestly dont know wtf non binary in means nor am i interested in learning but if they dont identify as either they could slap them in suit or dress, i dont see the issue here

  • @therandomgamer8107
    @therandomgamer8107 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    zarya isnt sexualized that much and still gets skins, and is a cool character, so i dont think its a valid argument. moria too

    • @otterpoppin
      @otterpoppin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      Zarya hasn't gotten any genuinely good skins in a loooong time, bro. Moira has gotten a few more than her, but not by much (her Mythic, Lillith, etc.)

    • @Zokarimoto
      @Zokarimoto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Because nobody likes Zarya

    • @Guarrow
      @Guarrow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Zarya doesn't have much in ow2 tho

    • @BlacIyc
      @BlacIyc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      "still gets skins" lol

    • @Izigurand
      @Izigurand 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      I think that’s due to them being way more iconic. Zarya was one of the original heroes with one of the most memorable ults in the game. Moira on the other hand is Moira. The people love purple succ beam.

  • @jakewhite9000
    @jakewhite9000 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The main reason venture doesn't have any skins is because blizzard doesn't see it as being profitable. venture is one the of the least played characters in the game it doesn't make sense for them to waste time designing a skin for venture, over any of the other characters that are more popular and have a higher pick rate. I completely disagree with you at 4:23 having a nice looking/cool skin will not make the pick rate of the character go up that is entire determined on playstyle and/or how good they are in the current meta. you said the s*x appeal plays a part in whether a character is popular and gets skins but Ana is the most played character in the game with tons of legendary skins and a new mythic weapon while not being designed with rule 34 artist in mind. venture wont get skins because people wont buy their skins because people don't like playing venture, the reason for that will be different for every person. At the end of the day they'll keep making kiri, juno, ana, and rein skins because that's what people really want to buy and it keeps the severs running.

  • @cerezabay
    @cerezabay หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Along with your other points, i think their nonbinary identity might be a reason, but not because of the hate. Having nonbinary characters in games is super new territory. Theoretically, them being non-binary should expand the possibilities of what skin they could have because they're not restricted by gender. I think Blizzard is scared to make them too masculine or feminine though, and not putting their creative energy in their design to avoid controversy. Which is a real shame if it's true. I wouldn't be surprised if all of ventures skins end up being very agender and they also arent part of collabs.

  • @Re-Equalizer
    @Re-Equalizer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +310

    Honestly, the fact that they didn't give Venture a mole onesie skin is criminal. They're fking adorable, idk what this trend is online with calling Ven ugly.

    • @Brando0406
      @Brando0406 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are ugly. They're a weird, gender blob. All blizzard had to do was make Venture an attractive female and she would've had skins out the wazoo. Instead, they tried making Venture some weird creature to appeal to like 10 people. Even the people I know that like Venture wish they would've just been a man or a woman instead of whatever they ended up being.

    • @g9blin603
      @g9blin603 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Nahhh respectfully, they look like a concord character

    • @CereDulce37
      @CereDulce37 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@g9blin603
      U heard this on tiktok once and started to run through with it every time you see someone like Venture. St f u

    • @GaaraFPS
      @GaaraFPS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Because they set beauty standards with the r34 characters

    • @JuliaNina
      @JuliaNina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I'm a LGBT person, and I think Venture is a ugly character. Tracer, Pharah, Soldier and Baptiste are LGBT too, and they're beautiful but Vent.

  • @Rexxy09-
    @Rexxy09- หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They’re getting a skin for the avatar collab but it isn’t what I think we wanted for venture. Yes it’s a collab skin. But we could’ve and should’ve gotten better and more for them.

  • @waffleizer2362
    @waffleizer2362 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i think its poor planning on their end like theese seasons are done like a year in advance and just didnt expect the popularity of the character

    • @peiithos
      @peiithos หลายเดือนก่อน

      my thing is like why create an unpopular character from a business perspective and also fail on their marketing. like why waste all that time and money on the first new dps since ow2 launch like that. i dont understand.

  • @TheWatchOverOW
    @TheWatchOverOW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    That skin they said was going to come out for Venture better be the best skin in the entire game with how long we've had to wait lmao

  • @vestal3430
    @vestal3430 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cant wait for the Gurren Lagann collab where Venture will get 35 billion skins

  • @vcrazy_diamond
    @vcrazy_diamond 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    I wonder why Concord failed

    • @iRandom_Thoughts
      @iRandom_Thoughts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      lmao

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It's a mystery

    • @otsu3011
      @otsu3011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      this is the best comment on this video

    • @proudtobeadisliker9374
      @proudtobeadisliker9374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤔

    • @Circurose
      @Circurose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      $40 multiplayer online only game in 2024?

  • @Ego_NA
    @Ego_NA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Venture's kit is all they have going for them.
    Their premise is cool, however they have no interesting lore behind them nor do they have an unique/interesting personality (just another tracer/trickster archetype).
    Overall, I'm not surprised they haven't gotten a skin, as they are extremely unremarkable and boring outside of their fun kit.

    • @icyatlasartworks
      @icyatlasartworks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The problem is less that Venture acts like Tracer, but more so that Venture doesn't have any of the baggage or negative aspects that comes with Tracer's personality, so there's no real depth to their character.
      That sucks because their design is really cool, but the lore/writing department didn't bother to give them anything to work off of. They aren't even a part of any factions in the story, just a loose card tossed into a deck full of connections, a tourist with a drill gun.

    • @Ego_NA
      @Ego_NA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@icyatlasartworks I definitely agree, the lack of character depth for Venture is unsurprising as Blizzard is no longer interested in expanding upon Overwatch's lore, at least with Tracer we were given glimpses into her character through different cinematics. It indicates that the problem lies with Blizzard as a whole, not fleshing out Overwatch's lore/world enough to include all new characters.
      However, the reason I mentioned Venture falling under an already used archetype is because I'm fully aware of what I've previously stated, and that the personality type has to have a unique/interesting hook in the current state of overwatch, as without proper fleshing out, their character will fall flat.
      As for Venture's design, it's pretty underwhelming, and from a lore standpoint, I'm much more interested in characters that actually add depth to the previously established factions in Overwatch lore.

    • @waterman7082
      @waterman7082 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i do have to say that venture's lore is really lacking. they aren't really connected to anything, if they had some actual reason to fight besides the fact that people are intruding on their sites. i feel like some emotional connection to a specific site, perhaps family manners on that archaeological site would be interesting. also, i have no idea why people think they look like something out of concord. IMO, that game's designs were wayy worse.

    • @Ego_NA
      @Ego_NA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waterman7082 Haha Venture does look like something out of concord. Let me explain why:
      In my opinion, people play video games to distance themselves from reality, and sequentially, to play as characters they can synchronize themselves with, for example, people like genji because it’s cool asf to be a cyborg ninja, or mccassidy because he’s a cool cowboy, but when you create a character with no objectively cool/attractive features, what differentiates them from a person in reality? Video games are an escape from reality, not a continuation of it. The only aspect of venture that people can really identify with is their sexuality, which makes for bad character design.
      However, with Concord’s character design they’re not only extremely unappealing to look at, but also that you can’t tell what kit they have based off of their design, where as with Venture you can tell that they’re someone who digs by their design, so that’s a plus for venture.
      In conclusion, video games are meant to be an escape from reality,and hero shooters like overwatch gained popularity by creating objectively attractive characters that would not look that good in real life because that’s the whole point of video games, to play as an objectively cool/attractive character because everything is way less appealing in reality. Venture’s unappealing features makes many people not like their character design, and it’s for that reason that people compare venture to concord’s roster.

  • @Fosilkat
    @Fosilkat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    i honestly think blizzard don't want to touch Venture´s design because they are non binary and fear that making a skin that leans slightly into feminine or masculine side would create controversy, i mean, sadly the community wasn't ready for a non-binary character

    • @sae7051
      @sae7051 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I see this take a lot and I just gotta say, I disagree completely. Blizzard has incredibly talented and experienced artists on their team, and their character/skin design is one of the few things that overwatch consistently gets praised for. I don’t believe for a second that these veteran artists can’t come up with some androgynous skin designs, especially considering that there are plenty of androgynous skins already in the game for other characters that aren’t non binary. Yes obviously there is slightly more consideration that goes into it but it shouldn’t be difficult for skilled artists, just look at the plenty of skin concepts that fans have already created for venture.
      Blaming it on ventures identity undermines the real issue, which I also believe to be blizzards greed. It has become painfully obvious that they would rather give popular characters like kiriko and mercy multiple skins a season instead of at least trying to treat characters equally. They will prioritize profit over all else.

    • @Fosilkat
      @Fosilkat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sae7051 i wouldn't say im blaming their identity, but agree that blizzard has incredibly talented artists and that blizzard's greed is what's stopping them from making skins for Venture, but honestly it kinda feels like that's they way blizzard is treating them because they are the only nb hero and the only hero who has been neglected this way, wich makes no sense to me becayse selling 1 skin would still be more than selling none

    • @fitritriwahyuni3635
      @fitritriwahyuni3635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the gooners are so pathetic with their blatant transphobia like sorry if a character that doesn't mainly use sex appeal in their design aren't catered for r34 or for porn addicted minds lmao, like hello kiriko and juno is right there for u?? it's like ow is trapped in a side where if they going to put the skin leaning to feminine or masculine side, they still got blatant transphobia bcs degens can't handle them not having gender stereotypes on them and using the excuse of "their design is bad!!" when they look exactly like an overwatch character would look like

    • @ArturoPladeado
      @ArturoPladeado 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Adding him was already a controversy as they were distracting from the sexual harassment stuff with his announcement and they catered if briefly to the mentally ill pdfphiles by caving and adding him, his nothing more than a DEI character. plus a venture skin would sell fuck all compared to a skin made for any other character, so it's also about making money and his not going to be making them money.

    • @fitritriwahyuni3635
      @fitritriwahyuni3635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArturoPladeado dude you literally play a game filled with lgbt content, guess you're one of those ppl then eh? you think you won't be bullied when you tell ppl you play ow? clown behavior

  • @avefenixflames
    @avefenixflames หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In general the Overwatch community has collectively agreed that Venture doesn't exist...

  • @Filmore1991
    @Filmore1991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    We all know why. Just youtube ain't allowing us to say it XP lol

  • @idiomasentusiasticos7954
    @idiomasentusiasticos7954 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Venture would totally wrap themself in toilet paper to mimic a mummy. Make that a skin.

  • @SF17777
    @SF17777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It’s almost like live service games are a business their goal is to make money so popular characters are always going to take priority. It doesn’t make sense for a business to invest resources into something that would make less profit or have higher risk than the several other alternatives that have a higher chance of success.

  • @ShagrotsCave
    @ShagrotsCave 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think venture is the best character design to be added to the game and while I don't play overwatch much anymore but when I do they're the only character I play. I personally like that they don't get any skins, makes my character feel less cynical

    • @John1045
      @John1045 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What a safe sterile shill :))))

  • @spirit7525
    @spirit7525 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's so sad the treatment venture gets, no skins, minimal lore, nothing except a couple voice lines/victory poses in the battle pass. As a Venture main this pisses me off 😡

  • @samwarehamturner2685
    @samwarehamturner2685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think another reason why they aren't getting many skins is their unique weapon design. A lot of characters just have a gun and you can kind of slap any collaboration or design on that hero and just be like oh its them with a gun . But ventures weapon is a bit part of their personality and design so you would have to make it work with the skin which I can imagine is a challenge.

  • @aacmbirdzilla2343
    @aacmbirdzilla2343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The fact that this came out right after the new season trailer where Kiriko gets multiple recolours and a new legendary skin boils my blood

    • @Phoenix-sc6di
      @Phoenix-sc6di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go to the hub, search for Kiriko. Count the number of pages. Repeat for Venture. Theres the answer.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kiriko is literally manufactured to attract weeaboos whales, what do you expect? And if you look at the direct competition, Marvel Rivals (who will overwhelm Overwatch in a matter of months), the "character" Luna Snow is the exact same thing

    • @Phoenix-sc6di
      @Phoenix-sc6di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RRRRRRRRR33 Marvel Rivals? Ha, yeah, sure

    • @monumentvalley6681
      @monumentvalley6681 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RRRRRRRRR33 I don't think Marvel Rivals will "overwhelm" Overwatch, but it IS gathering a lot of attention, and Overwatch should watch its back.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@monumentvalley6681 I think if the 6v6 test fails, pretty much tarnishing the perception of the Overwatch development team even further, people will literally flock towards Marvel Rivals. Let's not pretend Overwatch isn't reacting, they announced the plans for a 6v6 test right after Marvel Rivals was praised after the beta tests, the marketing videos are starting to cross 1 million views (like the Psylocke reveal), etc.. they know Rivals is coming, hence why the 6v6, but I'm almost sure this test is going to fluke. Imagine these devs trying to balance Kiriko and Lifeweaver to 6v6? Then you have the IP appeal, Venture compared to Psylocke?

  • @jonathanramirez9303
    @jonathanramirez9303 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    When I seen venture released as the newest hero I already knew they weren’t gonna get many skins but I didn’t expect venture to get NO skins at all :/

  • @moistwindow6094
    @moistwindow6094 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bro we all know the season 14 venture skin is gonna be an epic recolor of the ice cream skin thats only gonna be available in shop for premium currency, at this point half the people who've ever touched them would pay through the nose for it even if they actively hate the new skin

    • @peiithos
      @peiithos หลายเดือนก่อน

      they said itd be legendary but im still so confident itll just be a floppy hueshift recolor

  • @Burrito-b3r
    @Burrito-b3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a mercy main and cute girly character lover I honestly hate how blizzard is making the fanbase hate us.. like no we don't want to waste our money on 3 colors of the same skin and as much as I love the cat mercy skin I wanted the ENTIRE cast to get cat skins like in the concept art the showed like a year ago, and I really love all the characters in their own way and want them to go back to giving every character legendary starter skins instead of just marketing the conventually attractive characters :( Also venture was sooo popular with girl players because of their lgbtq background and silly personality so they could 100 percent make venture marketable to that part of the playerbase if they wanted.. its really all around missed opportunities for not just the fans but blizzard too.

  • @beehoney753
    @beehoney753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    in addition to Venturee being ignored, I think Ramattra gets that same treatment. Ram has been a playable character almost 2 years now; has 3 battle pass skins, 3 shop, 2 recolors, in addition to his skins available on release. Kiriko has been out just over 2 years now and has 2 battle pass skins, 12legendary/2epic shop(1recolor coming soon), and a mythic skin in addition to her skins available on release. (and blizzard advertised her feet in a post on x for her yatagarasu skin, which is behind a $40 paywall.)

  • @willowthywisp
    @willowthywisp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Literally every other character other than Moira have gotten a legendary since Venture's launch season of season 10. Winston got one S13

  • @ProfessorYasha
    @ProfessorYasha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If Venture gets a collab skin, then 100% its going to be a Gurren Lagann one. They could give them a Simon inspired one, then maybe Genji gets Kamina, and Ramattra could get the Gurren Lagann mecha inspired skin. Widow could even get a Yoko skin.

  • @LegoBrandMonkie
    @LegoBrandMonkie หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They seriously do not, think about it. Hazard got a whole animated trailer. Juno had a whole in-game setup and a change in Dorado, also kicking Venture in the face in the trailer. We all know abt Kiriko. What did Venture get... a small comic that doesn't bear any significance to the plot from the looks of it.

    • @peiithos
      @peiithos หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      theyre genuinely so disconnected from the lore. bcs at least juno was hinted at through project red promise on lijiang tower and has a connection to mei. we were waiting for mauga. lifeweavers connected to sym, soj to og ow, jq is another one we waited for. genuinely. like. venture has 0 connection to the lore and the comic felt like a pathetic attempt at it same with that short animation.
      like they need to actually gas up ventures involvement with other heroes and give them more personality than cardboard. why is venture with the wayfinders?? SHOW US?? who are the wayfinders?? tell us more about this surprise organization?? like..

  • @WingXCustom
    @WingXCustom หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They kind of wrote themselves into a corner with this one. They probably have no clue what to do skin wise due to the whole non binary thing. Can't sexualize them like the other characters

    • @drunkenqueen3077
      @drunkenqueen3077 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not just non-binary thing, Venture's base design is just not friendly to make a new cosmetic. Unlike Lifeweaver, he is pansexual but he still gets skins because his base design is simpler.
      Same for Mei & Brigitte, they both get fewer skins than less attractive / popular characters like Junkrat, Moira, Roadhog, Torbjorn and Symmetra because of their complex base designs. Mei wore a thick coat, while Brig wore a body armor.
      Venture wears baggy & multiple layer of clothing which makes things harder like matching the hitbox silhouette; making sure their bodies not clipping through the outfit; etc.

  • @reformed1trick739
    @reformed1trick739 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I disagree about Juno being a bad look for the game. I don't see anything wrong with having an attractive character.

    • @cdsams501
      @cdsams501 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry, *you* can't be comfortable with your sexuality. If you're attractive something you have to go "Mmmm eeeee I don't think so..." and divert your eyes, *especially* if it's a woman you're attractive to.

    • @vextex9719
      @vextex9719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      she looks like a literal child

    • @LorcanSterling
      @LorcanSterling 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@vextex9719agreed. I see some other characters as kids to

    • @suga1180
      @suga1180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vextex9719 Bro, you are delusional and you need to see a doctor.

    • @pg_purple5700
      @pg_purple5700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @@vextex9719 she does NOT look like a child lol

  • @saddestboodee
    @saddestboodee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +289

    There's a missing point I'd like to add to your video:
    LORE! (tl;dr below)
    With the exception of Venture (and Illari), every character introduced to Overwatch 2 has lore that connects them to pre-existing characters, which also allows us in the playerbase-at least those of us who are still heartbroken by the loss of PvE-to accept the new characters into the world.
    Sojourn was utilized for OW1 Archives missions while JQ's voice has been used since the inception of Junkertown. Kiriko, while her lore is wishy-washy, has a connection to the Shimada brothers, and Ramattra has ALSO been seen in OW1 through cutscenes. Lifeweaver has a connection to Symmetra, and Mauga was one of THE most asked-for characters... until he actually released-
    Then of course, there's Juno.
    She was known as "Space Ranger" for quite some time, and this also allowed for her garner hype in niche circles as people theorized about her, her kit, her lore, and how she'd connect to the overarching Overwatch world. This is another thing Venture as a character lacks, even though they're trying to make up for it through interactions and comics.
    To add to this, Juno's interactions with Mei have also allowed for a classic Overwatch character to show another side to her, similar to how Ramattra and Lifeweaver brought out new sides of Zenyatta and Symmetra-or JQ's hilarious interactions with Junkrat.
    THIS to me is what Venture lacks: a genuine connection to the cast.
    If Venture had been, say, the child of an Overwatch archeologist, a contract worker for Talon who didn't know their real plans, or maybe someone who dreamt of meeting Winston since he could tell them about moon rocks, I believe their reception would've been much better. Instead, a lot of Venture's popularity comes from... defending them from those that dislike them, and fanon jokes about rocks, rather than effort that Blizzard could've put in to make them a complete character.
    tl;dr The lack of a connection to other Overwatch characters is something else that's damaged Venture, and it's part of why I think they're not as popular as they could be.

    • @icyatlasartworks
      @icyatlasartworks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      I'd say that's the biggest part. Without a connection to any given character, Venture doesn't really have much depth to their personality outside of "hehe rocks" and artifacts, and it's hard for anyone to really get into their character. A phrase I heard aptly describes them (and I think I used it somewhere else in this comment section): a tourist with a drill gun.

    • @MoonlightBrillance
      @MoonlightBrillance 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I love the idea of them being a contract worker for Talon. The Talon side desperately needs more characters and this would be such a great way to integrate Venture into the world of OW.

    • @saddestboodee
      @saddestboodee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@MoonlightBrillance Exactly! And imagine how many natural interactions they’d have with Sigma (about space, rocks and the things he’s seen at his age) and Sombra (more Spanish-Spanish conversations)!

    • @raidenstokes1026
      @raidenstokes1026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      But venture knows torb, they have a rivalry with Mauga, and if overwatch ever actually expanded on their lore seemingly a connection with sombra. Interactions and comics are their connection to overwatch characters and I’d argue they have more than Illari, who outside of interactions literally never interacts with anyone in the overwatch universe, and yet Illari’s been getting plenty of skins. There’s plenty to love about venture both in terms of connection to the lore and their own character by itself.

    • @saddestboodee
      @saddestboodee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@raidenstokes1026 I agree with you 100%.
      I think that with Illari, her impact (at least for the loreheads) came from how her standalone lore is so... strong.
      Similar to the impact that Sigma and Ram's lore videos had on the community, from the OG "WHAT IS THAT MELODY!?" moment from the former to Rammatra's revolutionary vibe, Illari's video hit home hard for a lot of people.
      At the same time, that might be WHY more people've connected with her over Venture-it's easier to relate to someone who's open about her grief than someone who (while I love them) is very chipper and happy without much to balance said chipperness.
      For a good example, there's Junkrat! He's silly and cartoony in a similar way to Venture, yet he's ALSO grounded by the fact that he desires friendship (with the whole cast), a family (through his interactions with Ana), and understanding despite his chaotic nature.
      The same goes for characters like Lucio and Tracer who are VERY energetic. OW1 Tracer had some DARKNESS to her whenever she spoke to Widow, and the same went for Lucio whenever he caught a GLIMPSE of Sym. I think that bit of relatability-though some HAVE noted that they can heavily relate to Venture's giddiness and hyperfixations-is what's missing from them.

  • @Chilleyylol
    @Chilleyylol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Your whole rant about blizzard not giving venture a rant because of the overall sex nonexistent appeal is just flat out wrong. There are plenty of characters who aren’t neglected who also lack sex appeal, such as Ana, Roadhog, Junkrat, and Wreckingball. Sex appeal isn’t the problem. I don’t know what is, but it’s not that

    • @fitritriwahyuni3635
      @fitritriwahyuni3635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      junkrat lacks sexual appeal is the biggest bs when he literally has a lot of skin that shows off his body and his sitting emote exists, he's def not a good example of a character that lacks sex appeal

    • @nnaann7788
      @nnaann7788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think it may be the character is lacking appeal, not just sex one

    • @cakepires
      @cakepires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nnaann7788 I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS JAMISON FAWKES SLANDER. HE'S A HANDSOME MAN

    • @ArturoPladeado
      @ArturoPladeado 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Popularity? I almost see no one play him and blizzard is probably afraid "offending" the mentally ill minority that he was made for by designing skins that clearly shows his a guy because his "nonbinary" and the effort to make such skins for what amounts to a DEI character isn't worth it as making a skin for him would sell way less than a skin for literally any other character in the game, a fucking orisa skin would sell more and people hate her.

    • @I_feel_a_little_like
      @I_feel_a_little_like 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cakepiresJR burner detected

  • @pithagorian4394
    @pithagorian4394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Concord is the obvious example. No one bought it cause the characters were ugly and this is totally the fault of the concord developers because they tried to sell something no one wanted. Overwatch has a bunch of attractive characters because thats what people want to buy. They arent tricking us into playing their game or buying skins with their attractive characters. The attractive characters are what makes overwatch worth playing and concord not worth playing. So if you have to blame anyone for the lack of venture skins blame the players who dont find the design very appealing not the developers who are restricted to making things that people will buy

  • @Circurose
    @Circurose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    One thing. Pick rate. I swear no one is playing Venture.
    It's not about the sexual identity. Lifeweaver gets tons of skins. Venture being non-binary isn't an issue. It's not gonna be "Oh non-binary won't conform to masculine or feminine skin" because other non-conventionally attractive female characters like Moira and Zarya both have feminine and masculine skins.

    • @sleepymonsteraddict
      @sleepymonsteraddict หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I constantly see Venture in game, more than Tobjorn or Zarya for example. So popularity is not a valid argument here. Sexualization has something to do with it cause Zarya and Moira ain't getting shit compared to Kiri and Mercy, despite Moira's high popularity as a fun to play hero. Lifeweaver doesn't have tons of skins dude. I am not saying Venture is being neglected because they are non-binary, but they are definitely being neglected because they are not the most profitable hero and don't have an ideal design or model to make very appealing skins. I agree that making non-binary skins isn't hard, but we all know Blizzard is lazy and uninspired, so they choose to stick with what they know will sell the best.

  • @volatilegoblin3263
    @volatilegoblin3263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's actually insane that the first legendary skin will release over half a year after the hero's release...

  • @Real_Nutella
    @Real_Nutella หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The reason is because they're prioritizing Mercy, Kiriko, DVA, and Juno which are all objectively attractive female characters that can pull off cute skins better than other characters. They are so popular and have so much more playtime compared to other heroes that they create skins for them because they know people will buy them. Not everyone wants to buy a Venture skin and not everyone that plays venture wants to buy that skin either. The problem is that any skin has to be BOUGHT and not earned or randomly obtained. Mercy skins are going to sell 5x more than Venture skins even when there are diehard Venture players because you HAVE to spend money on the skin to wear it.

  • @reformed1trick739
    @reformed1trick739 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The archeologist not getting a skin in the egypt battle pass was confusing for me.
    Not going to lie, I still want that new Juno skin in the My Hero collab

  • @vareos9874
    @vareos9874 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    mark my words there will be a Gurren Lagann collab one day with Venture as Simon and it will be fire.

  • @WannabeMarsanach
    @WannabeMarsanach หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is why I hate battlepasses. They've ruined every game they've touched.

  • @ashenscholar8181
    @ashenscholar8181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It may also be due to Ventures VA being busy. they made a post on twitter today saying theyve been gone from work and social life due to some personal reasons since january so maybe they just couldnt do the voice work required for new cosmetics and stuff. i could see them not putting them in a battle pass if they couldnt do voice lines for them.

  • @Acerate599
    @Acerate599 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ow jurassic world collab where venture gets an actual skin would go hard

  • @SuperSledgePsycho
    @SuperSledgePsycho 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I think it's unhealthy and strange to imply that Juno is sexualised purely because of her backside, that'd imply any woman in real life wearing skinny jeans, yoga pants or leggings / jeggings, more or less any form fitting clothing below the torso to be sexualising themselves and to me, is actually creepier than you think it is.
    What you should talk about, is her movement animation, which was clearly done to emphasise her assets. There are multiple ways to do an air-gliding animation, the clearly went for one with hip-sway, which draws attention to certain parts of her body.
    I don't honestly care if Venture gets skins because I think they suck visual design wise and no, it isn't because of a lack of skin shown, I just think the base is boring as hell and most skins, for me, aren't going to make them appealing to play over the alternatives. Maybe an Ultrawatch one would have gotten a look from me.

    • @silvertaken
      @silvertaken 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I agree, Venture's design is too plain unlike Juno's. This youtuber started with a good point, but then emphasized too much about how Juno's esign is gross and disgusting just becauase of sexual appeal, since he implies Juno's design is just that and an actual good simple design too.

  • @riskybiscuits-co7me
    @riskybiscuits-co7me 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    kinda off topic, but I’ve always appreciated the editing in these vids

    • @tdobarron1
      @tdobarron1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @sick911
    @sick911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Because he is a horrendous character. He looks like a dustborn kind of character, lacks all the charisma all the other OW characters have.

  • @RvnWolf
    @RvnWolf หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not just skins, but the focus on bringing up as being Non Binary, during a time where a lot of gamers are seeing the pattern of Dei being stuffed into games at the games detriment.
    As personally i like Venture's playstyle, comboing her abilities is fun.

    • @MILOPETIT
      @MILOPETIT หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "at the games detriment" lmao you people are so fucking fragile you have to pretend any mention of lgbt hurts your precious games. You gonna cry?

    • @what6298
      @what6298 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MILOPETITthey want their game to be "less woke" meanwhile we've had gay characters in the game long ago, tracer is lesbian and solider is gay like um!! Way to be dumb

    • @Jman92854
      @Jman92854 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MILOPETIT Not really when Venture is one of the least played characters lmao

  • @bigolfart5759
    @bigolfart5759 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    7:30 he's taking a bath, give bro some privacy

  • @pithagorian4394
    @pithagorian4394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Sorry man youre just completely wrong about this. Characters dont get skins because of their sex appeal characters get skins if people really like the characters. As you pointed out rein gets a ton of skins and that isnt because of his sexual appeal its because people like playing rein and they like his character design. If a huge number of players adored ventures design on release there would be skins because that would make blizzard money. The whole process is more democratic than you make it out to be. Blizzard doesnt push skins for characters because they are hot they push skins for characters people like and people tend to prefer the hot characters.

    • @jasonhayes2904
      @jasonhayes2904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah bit rein is still attractive as well, don’t you think that some people play these characters BECAUSE they are attractive?

    • @Ghillie000
      @Ghillie000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rein is a man. I think the straight male gooners give way more attention to characters like mercy, and kiri who do have sexual appeal rather than any other type of overwatch player gives to any other type of character

    • @aidenbrenneman2302
      @aidenbrenneman2302 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠​⁠@@Ghillie000I think bubbling down the answer to “their gooners” is a very disingenuous way of putting it and will just make people angry cause you’re just insulting them. But it shouldn’t come to a surprise that people like player attractive characters it’s been like that since the beginning of gaming with Lara Croft, Samus, and almost any street fighter character like ryu or chun Lee.

  • @Sapiential
    @Sapiential 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Appearances aside, Venture has no lore. What relevance does she have with Overwatch, Null Sector, Omnic Crisis, and other major events in the universe? Nothing. It’s even worse than Illari who also has no relevance to the history of Overwatch universe, but at least has her own lore.
    Why would I care about a character who has no known connection to the events and history of a fictional universe? Such a character is practically a mere distraction.

    • @chakradarrat8832
      @chakradarrat8832 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a simple fix would be to have them accientaly find the tomb where the omnic god is (forgot it's name)

    • @icyatlasartworks
      @icyatlasartworks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would literally be as easy as making Venture a Junker, hell, people thought they were for months anyway.

    • @deadmemes719
      @deadmemes719 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Venture is a “they/them,” but you’re totally right. The thing that made me like Juno was her interactions with Mei. Venture has nothing

  • @oscar_lepulpe
    @oscar_lepulpe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i wish they could give her at least a space mining thematic could fit perfectly

  • @Whirllad
    @Whirllad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When Venture does get a skin though, they need to do a Gurren Lagan collap 😭

  • @molamola9723
    @molamola9723 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    > make unappealing character design
    > people don’t play the character
    > low playrate character sells less skins
    > character gets no skins
    It’s honestly just that simple. All this debate about sexualization and gender and whatnot is so meaningless on both sides. Blizzard is a company, all that matters is money and the consumer-base.

  • @elliepira8400
    @elliepira8400 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I'd just like to comment about all the "gross, sexualized, don't want or need it in our game, stop designing characters like that" stuff because it does help perpetuate this idea that 'sexy' outfits and designs are solely for men and solely for 'goon' pleasure of said men. I know I and plenty of other women (also i'm ace) like when characters look attractive or cute, we like to dress up characters in outfits we think makes them look cute same way we might pick outfits for ourselves that we just like the look of, for ourselves not for men. I doubt even the majority of people buying those skins for those characters are 'gooning' men because they just watch actual OW p**n instead of spending money on a skin they can almost never see anyway because its first person. I'm willing to bet most of the people who enjoy those skins are women and queer people playing dress up with their favourite OW dolls basically. That's why I use those skins and play characters like Mercy, I just think they look neat whilst I find all the male skins and more buttoned up stuff just not that interesting. You don't have to like ''unsexualized'' skins to not be some gooner and you don't have to be some gooner to like the 'sexy' skins or more attractive character designs, it doesn't all have to lead back to s*x.
    Sorry for the long winded dialog its just as a queer ace who enjoys these skins and characters seeing them always just referred to as "nothing but bait for men to do things to" gets so tiring to hear when so many of us like those things for different reasons and we're more likely the reason they are popular sellers so I don't want to see them taken away after being demonized as something that doesn't belong in the game or that people who like it need to touch grass.

  • @nethstar
    @nethstar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's a weird take to say people who like the Juno design need to "touch grass" but don't hold the same weight to the people who DESIGNED the character. You're basically blaming the consumer for something they have very little control over in terms of creative design.
    There isn't some shadowy collective of players standing outside the blizz headquarters demanding Juno have more skins or 'be r34 material'. If you really wanna know why they don't know what direction to take with skins is - they focused so much on Venture being an NB character that they now have to be super mindful on what type of skin they want to produce without offending anyone. Can't be too masculine, can't be too femenine, so you're sort of stuck trying to find a strange neutral middleground. My guess is that skin in S14 will be some indiana jones.

    • @hyperxx99
      @hyperxx99 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @nethstar, He tells people who find the characters attractive to touch grass but then says Juno has a dumptruck🤣🤣🤣. I find it hard to believe someone so focused on what others like is speaking from an authentic place. He doesn't realize he was conditioned to think the way he does by the same society that creates and promotes this stuff. He's a societal bot.

  • @jules2250
    @jules2250 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it’s obvious like we never see any skins for other supports….just mercy and kiriko

  • @biotheholy3096
    @biotheholy3096 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    all I'm saying is that a gurren lagann collab would be baller, it would be perfect for wrecking ball to get a lagann skin and venture to get a simon skin

    • @what6298
      @what6298 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gurren Lagann and ow fans are hungry and thirsty. I just want venture to get a Simon skin 💔

  • @aefenry3065
    @aefenry3065 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kiriko's feet have gotten more attention than Venture

  • @mlgbeastderik
    @mlgbeastderik หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:29 Canadian GGs wrap it up

  • @Kamil_Horvath
    @Kamil_Horvath 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I greatly think this video would have benefited from a bit more research on how games are planned and produced in large scale companies. There is a very good chance Venture as a character didn't exist at the time they were planning cosmetics even for season 13.
    Characters, maps, seasonal events and skins take a long time to plan get made. I don't know the exact pipeline team 4 (the overwatch team) uses, but I'd assume a skin needs to: be pitched, greenlit, iterated on, approved, modeled, textured, rigged, (and in the case of some skins) voiced, coded for special behaviors or have new visual effects made for it.
    For an example of how long in advance something like a whole hero is bing planned. Back when Ashe was added to the game, the developers mentioned they were working on roughly 6 heroes in various stages of development, with 3 of them already having fully finished kits.
    That means when Ashe was released, Baptiste, Sigma and Echo were already fully playable and most likely, Sojourn, Kiriko and Junker Queen were too to some extend since they were also being worked on at that point. There's also the whole thing with Mauga being swapped around in the release schedule twice. Once with Sigma and a second time with Ramattra, so who knows for how long he's been finished for. Along side Juno, who's kit is literally just Echo's original kit before they changed her to damage from support due to her ultimate not working for a support.
    The thing is. A lot of things are planned years ahead with one release schedule in mind, but then internal shit happens in the company and things get changed around to accommodate.
    They're not ignoring our favorite goofball in the skins department. Most likely scenario is probably that Venture just got released a few seasons earlier than originally planned like they did with Ramattra, and retroactively adding venture skins to pre planned seasons just weren't seen as worth the trouble or maybe not even possible at all with the amount of layoffs caused by the Microsoft acquisition.

    • @Crahb
      @Crahb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The comment I was searching for, thank you soldier.
      Blizzard is a for profit business, so calling them money hungry for making cool skins for the most popular characters seems extremely reasonable, no? If they don't make money, they can't afford devs, servers, uptime, etc.
      Its really easy to call them a money hungry company, but they HAVE to make money to survive. Skins at the end of the day are purely cosmetic and don't affect the gameplay (btw she has had multiple balance changes since release, so the beginning is also misleading). This comes from a venture main, and as much as I want her to have skins, I think the reasons are probably not as simple as just 'she isn't attractive.'

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Then the question stands when was venture going to be added. It couldn't have been that far away right?

    • @tdobarron1
      @tdobarron1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are absolutely right, I’ll be sure to do better in my next uploads. Thank you for the criticism, I really appreciate it

  • @tobi_offical0171
    @tobi_offical0171 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Venture is getting a new skin in Season 14", I watched the new trailer for Season 14 and yeah no, no Venture skin. Blizzard is laughing right now on top of a pile of Gooner money

  • @ztarfy
    @ztarfy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazingly mature video!! Absolute banger, imma share on my story 🗣️

  • @azedzadadzada
    @azedzadadzada 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This video feels like a naive kid discovering what capitalism and the real world look like. Yes Venture is being ignored because they lack appeal to the majority of the playerbase while characters like Juno & Kiriko does. It comes from both sexualisation and the fact that Venture's gender is divisive for some people making the character even less popular as a whole. Blizzard is making skins for characters that are popular and sells. Venture is considered as a whole like an average character while Kiriko & Juno are considered beautiful/cute/sexy based solely on their design. Nothing new under the sun, no need for such an "essay" which is just a talk-around the real facts.

    • @Luksenburg69420
      @Luksenburg69420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Debout les damnés de la terre !

    • @Hakimgrr_
      @Hakimgrr_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      he really is a naive kid discovering what the real world is, venture is ugly, that's about it, nobody wants to play ugly characters, let alone pay for it.

    • @olegtz
      @olegtz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      THIS ^
      That's all that needs to be said!

    • @olegtz
      @olegtz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Hakimgrr_ He's a product of the American colleges system, it's so obvious XD

  • @infragrayscale
    @infragrayscale 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Referring to every character as "they" makes your video confusing to listen to. Just use the names.

  • @Mephitinae
    @Mephitinae 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kiriko, Dva, Mercy, and many other "sexualized" Overwatch heroes were, and still are extremely popular with female fans, who by large feel duper-duper represented by these designs. Overwatch peaked in popularity when the Witch Mercy skin came out. I saw Dva and Mercy cosplayers walking around town. "Mercy main" was mainstream slang. If the game's design and marketing didn't focus on sex appeal, the casual audience (read: women) would have ignored it. It would have never sold 8 figures. You wouldn't be making videos about it.

    • @cinnadraws-9806
      @cinnadraws-9806 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a woman I despise the sexualisation of these characters. It disgusts me dva was a minor most of the time and got turned 19 so people could jerk it. Mercy not being allowed to age because it would make her less sexy is horrible for women and Kirkos lore is straight up stolen from 2 amazing characters (genji and hanzo) ruining the story for all 3 for me. Sacrificing good story and good gameplay to make sexy women sexy is bad. Bad for women bad for everyone.

    • @yuno4373
      @yuno4373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly it baffles me how anyone can view Kiriko as s3xy. She's literally covered from head to toes in her OG skin, plus she looks underage. The Mercy, Widow etc. I understand, but Kiriko? Nah.

  • @baitposter
    @baitposter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The viewers in the audience who have any lick of good business sense know exactly why Venture is being ignored

  • @25shadow11
    @25shadow11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me personally, Venture sorta felt like.....them trying to emulate Dps Doomfist again. Honestly, part of me thinks they just wanted a way to put dps doomfist stuff back without just copypasting.