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“Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn’t even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.” - Heraclitus
It's heartening to see so many comments recognizing that although the other Greeks were not soldiers, they showed up to defend Greece. In many ways, a potter showing up to face the Persian army shows more bravery than a Spartan warrior doing the same.
That is how it worked. Few civilizations in Greece had a standing, professional army. That is one of the things that made Sparta fairly unique. Just like the movie intro explains. Spartan boys are groomed from birth to be professional warriors and nothing else. The people in Spartan civilization that did all of that other work that held up society were called the Helots. People conquered and lived essentially under the thumb of Spartan society, largely treated as second-class citizens or outright slaves. In fact, part of spartan training was for the young men to go out and learn to steal and survive by taking advantage of Helots around the countryside. Setting aside the lecture about the Spartans. Many Greeks by this time have realized how much of a threat the Persian invasion was their entire way of life, the Western way of life. Also, if you don't know the history of these conflicts, it is a great and voluminous study. Even while you are watching the Spartans in this movie, keep in mind, for instance that the Athenian navy at the same interval was out in the Aegean battling and maneuvering against the Persian fleet. That storm they show in this movie, briefly, that took out so many Persian ships was a godsend to the Athenian navy actually. This was akin to a world war of the times, one could argue.
2024 In the USMC.. And the US Army.. only %18 are Infantry. IE, the profession to which we are training 24/7/365 in the art of WAR. The other %82 are support personal. LET THAT SINK IN.
Nah that just makes them targets and likely obstacles. Ever see a woman try to help her man in a fight? You have to protect her and fight at the same time. It would be easier just to go with real warriors.
I remember once seeing Gerard Butler about a year after 300 came out and he shouted SPARTANS live on air at some MTV awards show to a crowd outside the stadium, and everyone shouted back HAOOO HAOOO HAOOO!
Excellent scene, from an excellent movie. The other fellow was right tho. They needed 3,000 Spartans. Regardless, many of the Thespians also fought to the death alongside.
5 thousand fought. you see, my very ancient ancestors knew about propaganda and to look good. don''t forget they invented ""thinking"" 2500 years ago. The battle was a decoy to delay the advance of persian army until spring. so this is a film-> based on a comic->based on an ancient greek propaganda-> based on historical events. and its great. :)
Of course, under Spartan law, Spartans could not have a profession; those were for the helots (slaves). A Spartan's "profession" was thus citizen of Sparta.
The word the Spartans cry: Ha-ooh! May have first been used by American cavalry in during the Seminole war in 1841. Over the years, it morphed into the army call hooah; the Marine Corps Oorah; and the Navy’s hooyah. I was told during BCT that that call meant war.
Leonidas made his point, but the Arcadians showed up, even against Xerxes' reputation for size of force, took balls to present yourself and be ready for war.
I always thought this too. That potter with little training grabbed a spear and was ready to put his life on the line against the world’s biggest army. Show a little respect, Leonidas.
@@BClarke a little chopping down was necessary-the guy implied that because Sparta sent less men than they did Sparta was less willing to fight than they were.
The underlying point here is that all of them are going to die to Xerxes' army. The Spartans welcome this challenge, this is what they live for. The Arcadians may bring a small net positive to the battlefield but they could also be a net negative. They would probably better serve their nation by returning home and preparing for Xerxes' occupation.
in that day EVERYONE was able to fight and had personal weapons .... but comparing them to professional soldier from Sparta is like comparing a beer belly 55 yr old regular reservist that hasnt shot a single round in his entire life with a Seal operator in their prime....
There is a line in Herodutus's "the Histories" that says, "It became obvious that the Great King had brought a great many men, but few soldiers" - this seems to be an adaptation of that
In the real battle of Thermopylae the Greek force was actually a few thousand. In the last battle after the Greek forces were to be routed Leonidas told the Greek coalition to retreat while he and his Spartans held the pass giving them the time to escape. This inspired many of them to stand and fight with the Spartans. Altogether around 1,200 stood against the Persians that morning led by the Spartans. And it gave the rest of the Greeks the time they needed to retreat.
The spartans practiced something called "laconic phrase", meaning that they actually practiced being well.... smart asses. The lines in the 300 movie are pretty biting, but the real quotes attributed to some of the spartans are EVEN more brutal.
I liked the ones a Spartan King told to the King of Corinth: KofC: "Look at the beauty of the city of Corinth! Impressive, huh?" SK: "Yeah, those are good quarters for woman..." The King of Corinth, not wanting to be left behind, then said: "Oh, but our city have tall and mighty walls, but I've heard that Sparta have no walls..." The Spartan King just pointed to one of his soldiers, and said: "There is the walls of Sparta."
Show these potters and sculptors and blacksmiths some due respect. They are willing to put their lives on the line against overwhelming odds even though they are not professional soldiers. Leonidas welcomed them and showed them no disrespect, yet some react as though he was putting them down in some way.
@@davidwholly5209 But... It is indeed glorious, to have been a professionally trained, HOMELESS person. Able to survive in the cold.. the Hot... the wet... with horrible food. The magical, Super power, of being able to work any type of job. As any job... is better than Infantry.
Basically no entire army in the world, at the time, consisted entirely of professional soldiers. Small contingents like the immortals existed, but the majority of men in nearly every army were not professionals. But that doesn’t mean that they were not experienced. Many of these men had fought in many battles even battles against these very Spartans themselves. There is a reason why the farmer/soldier became the ideal archetype of a Roman citizen during the days of the republic.
Diss the other Greek army all you want, but the fact that potters, sculptors and blacksmiths (who makes the weapons, by the way) are willing and able to take up arms and fight against foreign invaders is admirable in itself. I'd even argue that it takes more courage to do that than it would be for well trained warriors.
Just for everyone that don’t know. There were a lot more soldiers that joined Leonidas. Those in the movie along with Athenians and some other Greek Kingdoms sent some soldiers to rally and help King Leonidas. Later on however when the Persians find the secret passage King Leonidas Sends all except his Spartans back home. So in the end there originally was more than 300 Greeks but nearing the end they got sent home to protect their country and families. There was one Spartan that King Leonidas sent back knowing the consequences for leaving the Battle. But he regained his honor by fighting in the final battle to free the Greeks. 300 isn’t 100% accurate to what originally happened. But they are actually still pretty accurate in the movie. At least on the Spartans side it’s more accurate.
The Spartans had a very wry wit. Philip II of Macedon was conquering Greek city-states left and right, Sparta was left alone. Philip had achieved a crushing victory, and Sparta was relatively weak and without walls. Philip sent a message to the Spartans saying “If I invade Lakonia you will be destroyed, never to rise again.” The Spartans replied with one word, “If.” Philip eventually decided to bypass Sparta as it was a poor region and not worth the fight. Neither Philip nor Alexander attacked the Spartans while they ruled.
Leonidas: You see old friend, I brought more soldiers than you did Arcadian: But you just asked the 3 of my men who has an occupation! Leonidas: Why, do they have other specialties? Arcadian: These are 597 jobless sons of bitches! I promised them food we could plunder from Xerxes! Arcadians: Awoof Awoof Awoof!
And that "Hau. hau, hau" means they're bonded, they're brothers and fighting alongside brothers gave another results than fighting with potters and sculpters alongside... With all respect, most woman cannot understand that and cannot replicate that by themselfs.
course was for movie sakes, historically their allies were known for their own professional soldiery. Course spartans were soldiers where as other task were left up to their slaves while most history soldiers were everyday laborers.
@@jasonwilliamson8416 National Guard still has a full-time civilian job to pay the essentials, You only become a full-time warrior when activate by the full-time Federal Forces.
@@franciscoguzman1034 I was IN the 19th Special Forces Group for 21 years and that WAS my Monday through Friday job. I notched 9 combat deployments along with disaster relief activity here at home as well as border patrol duty in between all of that.
@@Seriona1 You're probably right, but the dominant person can mention the others. This strengthens the bond because they knew that it was far from over. Strike together, maybe you need the ally again.
They were 7500k at start but most of them left when they were surrounded, the Spartans stayed to hold Persians as much as possible to give the other time to make an army
I'm probably going to get reported for this comment but I'm saying it anyway I get the feeling that every woman reactor that watch this scene got a little moist lol
Truly hated this flick. Where is their armor? What about the other Spartan king? Never mentioned. Also Sparta didn't kick the envoy into the pit. Athens did. Xerxes was not a nine foot monster man nor did the Persians employ monsters in their army. Still though where the hell is the armor? Speedo's? Spartan's fought in speedo's? This is why people don't know history.
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The inexplicable manly urge to yell "AAAAAUUU AAUUU AAAAUUU" with your brothers in arms while thrusting your spears into the air.
AAUUU AAAUUU AUUU!! 🗡️
AAAUUU!!! AAAUUU!!! AAAUUU!!! 😤😤😤
"You there, what is your profession?"
"Baby oil seller, sir"
"We'll take your entire stock"
Alright P Diddy calm down
That was so-FUNNY !!! LOL. Couldn't stop laughing either.
😂😂😂😂😂
mau mau mau..
I’ll take 1000 for…ahem…a friend
“You see old friend I brought more soldiers than you did.”
Damn that’s an ultimate diss right there.
“Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn’t even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.”
- Heraclitus
That is the hardest quote I've read...... I'm adding it to the list.
Based af.
“You brought the weak, I brought the war” goes unreasonably hard
It's heartening to see so many comments recognizing that although the other Greeks were not soldiers, they showed up to defend Greece. In many ways, a potter showing up to face the Persian army shows more bravery than a Spartan warrior doing the same.
He wasn’t questioning their bravery but their ability.
That is how it worked. Few civilizations in Greece had a standing, professional army. That is one of the things that made Sparta fairly unique. Just like the movie intro explains. Spartan boys are groomed from birth to be professional warriors and nothing else. The people in Spartan civilization that did all of that other work that held up society were called the Helots. People conquered and lived essentially under the thumb of Spartan society, largely treated as second-class citizens or outright slaves. In fact, part of spartan training was for the young men to go out and learn to steal and survive by taking advantage of Helots around the countryside.
Setting aside the lecture about the Spartans. Many Greeks by this time have realized how much of a threat the Persian invasion was their entire way of life, the Western way of life. Also, if you don't know the history of these conflicts, it is a great and voluminous study. Even while you are watching the Spartans in this movie, keep in mind, for instance that the Athenian navy at the same interval was out in the Aegean battling and maneuvering against the Persian fleet. That storm they show in this movie, briefly, that took out so many Persian ships was a godsend to the Athenian navy actually.
This was akin to a world war of the times, one could argue.
2024 In the USMC.. And the US Army.. only %18 are Infantry. IE, the profession to which we are training 24/7/365 in the art of WAR. The other %82 are support personal. LET THAT SINK IN.
So a bunch of men turned up, despite not being warriors, to fight against the biggest army of their time? That's pretty brave in my books.
That actually makes them more brave than the Spartans.
Nah that just makes them targets and likely obstacles. Ever see a woman try to help her man in a fight? You have to protect her and fight at the same time. It would be easier just to go with real warriors.
You missed the whole point 🤦
@@robmartin9782 but you don't win a war with a potter and a blacksmith. Hope you got the point now.
@@gurungsunny I got the point before you ever watched the movie, buddy. You missed the point of what I said.
I remember once seeing Gerard Butler about a year after 300 came out and he shouted SPARTANS live on air at some MTV awards show to a crowd outside the stadium, and everyone shouted back HAOOO HAOOO HAOOO!
Gerard Butler is GOATed
Excellent scene, from an excellent movie. The other fellow was right tho. They needed 3,000 Spartans. Regardless, many of the Thespians also fought to the death alongside.
Actors fought to the death with the Spartans?
@Jch79 "Master Actors"(SNL)😄 If you don't think that actual historical figures didn't have a convo about the size of forces..😂
I mean, Leonidas clearly did appreciate and respect them, he only responded to them questioning spartan commitment.
5 thousand fought. you see, my very ancient ancestors knew about propaganda and to look good. don''t forget they invented ""thinking"" 2500 years ago. The battle was a decoy to delay the advance of persian army until spring.
so this is a film-> based on a comic->based on an ancient greek propaganda-> based on historical events.
and its great. :)
@@SolaufeinGexactly! Great movie! A lot of fun, but complete propaganda.
Of course, under Spartan law, Spartans could not have a profession; those were for the helots (slaves). A Spartan's "profession" was thus citizen of Sparta.
You’re a historian.
He played total war.
Yes, warriors being the profession of nobility vs. the duty of the poor.
Amd, as a SACRED DUTY of every Spartan citizen, they HAVE to fight to defend their land and people.
Every "Ha-oo" adds at least 5 mg of testosterone to the ol' sack lol what a scene
The word the Spartans cry: Ha-ooh! May have first been used by American cavalry in during the Seminole war in 1841. Over the years, it morphed into the army call hooah; the Marine Corps Oorah; and the Navy’s hooyah. I was told during BCT that that call meant war.
ofc it was all american... lool
In histotical archives, it was described as the war-cry of Herakles, and the Spartans, claiming themselves descendents of Herakles, well...
Leonidas made his point, but the Arcadians showed up, even against Xerxes' reputation for size of force, took balls to present yourself and be ready for war.
I always thought this too. That potter with little training grabbed a spear and was ready to put his life on the line against the world’s biggest army. Show a little respect, Leonidas.
@@BClarke a little chopping down was necessary-the guy implied that because Sparta sent less men than they did Sparta was less willing to fight than they were.
The underlying point here is that all of them are going to die to Xerxes' army. The Spartans welcome this challenge, this is what they live for. The Arcadians may bring a small net positive to the battlefield but they could also be a net negative. They would probably better serve their nation by returning home and preparing for Xerxes' occupation.
in that day EVERYONE was able to fight and had personal weapons .... but comparing them to professional soldier from Sparta is like comparing a beer belly 55 yr old regular reservist that hasnt shot a single round in his entire life with a Seal operator in their prime....
Yes, but do you want to be trash mobs or actually stand a fighting chance?
There is a line in Herodutus's "the Histories" that says, "It became obvious that the Great King had brought a great many men, but few soldiers" - this seems to be an adaptation of that
Imagine a king who fights it's own battles, wouldn't be a sight? -- Achilles
That's one of the reasons the Spartans had two kings. They'd often die fighting.
“You brought the weak; I brought the war.” Kristen was so on point with that!
In the real battle of Thermopylae the Greek force was actually a few thousand. In the last battle after the Greek forces were to be routed Leonidas told the Greek coalition to retreat while he and his Spartans held the pass giving them the time to escape. This inspired many of them to stand and fight with the Spartans. Altogether around 1,200 stood against the Persians that morning led by the Spartans. And it gave the rest of the Greeks the time they needed to retreat.
The spartans practiced something called "laconic phrase", meaning that they actually practiced being well.... smart asses. The lines in the 300 movie are pretty biting, but the real quotes attributed to some of the spartans are EVEN more brutal.
I liked the ones a Spartan King told to the King of Corinth:
KofC: "Look at the beauty of the city of Corinth! Impressive, huh?"
SK: "Yeah, those are good quarters for woman..."
The King of Corinth, not wanting to be left behind, then said:
"Oh, but our city have tall and mighty walls, but I've heard that Sparta have no walls..."
The Spartan King just pointed to one of his soldiers, and said:
"There is the walls of Sparta."
Straight fire!
Phillip II: if I march into Sparta and make you surrender, I'll burn Sparta to the ground.
Spartans, those absolute GIGACHADS: "IF."
Show these potters and sculptors and blacksmiths some due respect. They are willing to put their lives on the line against overwhelming odds even though they are not professional soldiers. Leonidas welcomed them and showed them no disrespect, yet some react as though he was putting them down in some way.
The part where he says “I brought more soldiers than you did” is an example of “Laconic Wit” Spartans where popular for this style of speech.
"If"
They may not be warriors but they had balls against those immortals.
Leonidas was truly a legend in the ancient world. Even Caesar himself is said to have remarked about him.
I might be tempted to create a LinkedIn profile with my listed profession as AHOO AHOO AHOO 😂
every team with "spartans" as their mascot now use this line 😄
I love how the blacksmith answers with a bit of an attitude like yeah I know where this is going, asshole.
Just like a saying goes. "10 lions are better than 10,000 sheeps."
hate or love zack snyder, you cant deny he used to make MOVIES that were pure movies
To be fair the Athenians acquitted themselves at Thermopylae :)
You mean Marathon
I love when Ash grabbed his sword lol
U see old friend
Still shows him respect i think
This is how real movies get made and live forever compared to the garbage being made today
AGREED.
Exacto bro, vengo de ver gladiador 2 y le falta la escencia de la 1
He only brings 300 "Reacher" who said : well, you're 10000 short...
As a US Marine... Infantryman.. THIS part of the movie, is a true representation...
Meaning.. IF you aren't Infantryman.. YOU are just the support..
You can't win the battle without support, guy.
@@davidwholly5209 But... It is indeed glorious, to have been a professionally trained, HOMELESS person.
Able to survive in the cold.. the Hot... the wet... with horrible food. The magical, Super power, of being able to work any type of job. As any job... is better than Infantry.
Basically no entire army in the world, at the time, consisted entirely of professional soldiers. Small contingents like the immortals existed, but the majority of men in nearly every army were not professionals. But that doesn’t mean that they were not experienced. Many of these men had fought in many battles even battles against these very Spartans themselves. There is a reason why the farmer/soldier became the ideal archetype of a Roman citizen during the days of the republic.
This is when my mother's family met my father's family. A family of farmers and preachers meeting a military family
I can imagine the tension...😮
The whole message was essentially
“You might train for war but we live for it”
"Sucks for you - I'M INTO THIS SHIT!"
Diss the other Greek army all you want, but the fact that potters, sculptors and blacksmiths (who makes the weapons, by the way) are willing and able to take up arms and fight against foreign invaders is admirable in itself. I'd even argue that it takes more courage to do that than it would be for well trained warriors.
Just for everyone that don’t know. There were a lot more soldiers that joined Leonidas. Those in the movie along with Athenians and some other Greek Kingdoms sent some soldiers to rally and help King Leonidas.
Later on however when the Persians find the secret passage King Leonidas Sends all except his Spartans back home. So in the end there originally was more than 300 Greeks but nearing the end they got sent home to protect their country and families. There was one Spartan that King Leonidas sent back knowing the consequences for leaving the Battle. But he regained his honor by fighting in the final battle to free the Greeks. 300 isn’t 100% accurate to what originally happened. But they are actually still pretty accurate in the movie. At least on the Spartans side it’s more accurate.
The Spartans had a very wry wit. Philip II of Macedon was conquering Greek city-states left and right, Sparta was left alone. Philip had achieved a crushing victory, and Sparta was relatively weak and without walls. Philip sent a message to the Spartans saying “If I invade Lakonia you will be destroyed, never to rise again.” The Spartans replied with one word, “If.”
Philip eventually decided to bypass Sparta as it was a poor region and not worth the fight. Neither Philip nor Alexander attacked the Spartans while they ruled.
Always gives me goosebumps
Leo basically said: i brought testosterone, you brought soy.
"Talk about Hot Gates" arrest that man
I wonder how many people notice that the soldier on the Kings right is Magneto😂 and he was badass in this movie. A better fighter than the King
Leonidas: You see old friend, I brought more soldiers than you did
Arcadian: But you just asked the 3 of my men who has an occupation!
Leonidas: Why, do they have other specialties?
Arcadian: These are 597 jobless sons of bitches! I promised them food we could plunder from Xerxes!
Arcadians: Awoof Awoof Awoof!
They may have not been trained soldiers , but they showed up for the party , San Antonio Texas
There’s a reason I feel like breaking things after watching this movie and this is part of it
No Leonidas knew that with his sacrifice against Xerxes, Greece would unite against one common enemy instead of amongst themselves
“What is your profession?” lol one the last TH-cam creators was so confused. It’s a guy thing
All spartan males were soldiers, starting training at the age of 5.
All manual labor was done by slaves. They had like 10 slaves per spartan.
They were hoping Sparta would bring a large army to fight in the frontlines. They wanted glory without the worry.
The whole point of being a Spartan citizen was that you had no profession. Still a fucking cool movie
During Michigan Sate football home games they play this and the whole stadium replies with OOO OOO. It’s quite awesome.
Michigan State does this at their football games, well they are the Spartans after all.
It’s so funny to see, even modern women, tingle from this one line. Sone things don’t change.
300 professional grunters. Scary.
Never underestimate a blacksmith in a battle. very critical. Those weapons will need repair ;)
Not only that, but you can build some solid muscles pounding and shaping metal for a living.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
You listened…awesome, thank you!
And that "Hau. hau, hau" means they're bonded, they're brothers and fighting alongside brothers gave another results than fighting with potters and sculpters alongside... With all respect, most woman cannot understand that and cannot replicate that by themselfs.
course was for movie sakes, historically their allies were known for their own professional soldiery. Course spartans were soldiers where as other task were left up to their slaves while most history soldiers were everyday laborers.
The Best way to say it today is you broth the National Guard, I bring the Special Forces and Marines.
2nd Battalion 19th Special Forces Group and Special Operations Detachment Europe are both part of the West Virginia Army National Guard 😂
@@jasonwilliamson8416 National Guard still has a full-time civilian job to pay the essentials, You only become a full-time warrior when activate by the full-time Federal Forces.
@@franciscoguzman1034 I was IN the 19th Special Forces Group for 21 years and that WAS my Monday through Friday job. I notched 9 combat deployments along with disaster relief activity here at home as well as border patrol duty in between all of that.
Imma put that on my resume. My profession is hu hu hu
This movie makes me proud. I can outwork 4 men. This is how I feel when I prove it.
Spartans were soldiers because they used slaves for everything else.
See, women instinctively LOVE masculinity.
Leonidas meets the National Guard!
You brought more bodies, sure. But I brought more soldiers 😈😈
Spartans these days are equivalent to navy seals
GREAT REACTION TO A CLASSIC SCENE.
4:44 Lady , Did the Other Guy not Just Undermine Leonidas and his Soldiers??
"WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION"!! this will never get old to hear for me 👏👏 absolutely gangster 😂
Still something to be said about potters and sculptors who will go to death anyway.
I don't think that is listed on LinkedIn 🤣🤣🤣
Can you do reactors reacting to "It's an honour to die at your side, It's an honour to live at yours" ?
Some of these people reacting must not have war in their bloodline or something.
Actually one spartan would be better than all of the Arcadians.
Rome conquered the Mediterranean world with farmers, potters and sculptors.
Ancient sculptors were not weak. Pass on the rest.
But in the real story those guys actually won the battle while Leo got killed the very first day.
Those soldiers didn’t mean anything in the end
Gerard Butler's from paisley in glasgow, he would of handled the bad guy and his army alone he just took the others for company
that one blondie that didnt need to be in the collection 😅
300 spartates kai 700 thespiis pethanan gia ena skopo.gia na imste tora eleutheri ksi oreoi
MARINE CORPS!!!!!!!!
Mic drop!
Historical they was 7500 not 300!
Yes, but unfortunately the other 7200 are only mentioned in passing. The average person only knows the 300 Spartans.
@@2tone753Spartan's earned their legacy because they held out the longest out of all the Greeks.
@@Seriona1 You're probably right, but the dominant person can mention the others. This strengthens the bond because they knew that it was far from over. Strike together, maybe you need the ally again.
They were 7500k at start but most of them left when they were surrounded, the Spartans stayed to hold Persians as much as possible to give the other time to make an army
And the 300 soldiers die.
Please people at least credit the director in these types of Videos.
The director = Zack Snyder ( first film only )
what is your profession ?
Spartan: AAOO AAOO !
...Sir that is not a profession ! And stop shouting ! You are at interview sir !
I'm probably going to get reported for this comment but I'm saying it anyway I get the feeling that every woman reactor that watch this scene got a little moist lol
I let my gay friend watch 300 after watching we swing swords⚔️.
Wait that sounds bad😂
Naw we know what you mean 😏
Sounds awesome -- except in the real world, it didn't last very long.
Long enough.
They held long enough.
That'll do.
The real actor are the reactors. Acting like they never watched 300 or other top rated movies before. CAP!
Truly hated this flick. Where is their armor? What about the other Spartan king? Never mentioned. Also Sparta didn't kick the envoy into the pit. Athens did. Xerxes was not a nine foot monster man nor did the Persians employ monsters in their army. Still though where the hell is the armor? Speedo's? Spartan's fought in speedo's? This is why people don't know history.
Still waiting for Spartans to answer the question in English.