I’ve got a 2010 SRT8 with the 6.1. What a great ride, and what a great deal (I bought it in pristine condition in 2016 with only 20K miles on it for $26K). Silly me, I put a Magnusson supercharger and a Bolsa exhaust on it, boosting HP from 425 to around 590. What a blast - but now my wife won’t drive it, it scares her. For anyone considering going this route, it’s about an $8K adder, but it’s a simple drop in, no engine mods required - and it comes with a pre-tuned ECU. The base 6.1 always put a smile on my face, I would have zero regrets if I dialed back the hands of time and did not put the blower on it. Oh, and by the way, I have had zero maintenance issues on this car, which now has 60K miles on it. Thanks for the post, I found it informative
Preciate this tid bit of information as i just got an og srt8 chally myself i use to have a zl1 n a miss that tq on tap from the blower n have been looking to supervharge my 6.1
I test drove both and that 6.1l HEMI is a beast! Love that car but the 6.4 is real fast I just dont like how it feels like a luxury car too floaty fir me the 6.1l felt more direct and light on its feet
Truth of the matter is that the 6.1 is a classic: the grandfather to the generations after. The one thing I love about the 6.1"s is the DVD entertainment system in the front and the center console pop out screen for the backseat riders and you can also download music to the car from an IPOD. Much more space and its design has its own aggressive stance. The 6.1 is nostalgic, the 6.4 is new technology.
Yesterday I raced a modded SRT 392 scat pack. With my 6.1 5 speed from highway roll in traffic. Boy he didn't escape me except by half car length. I think it boils down to driver and I'm also not big. I see no difference in scat pack and 6.1 from now on. I have raced them 2ce and they just stood in front of my bumper the gap didn't even increase
I have both of them my 6.1 has the up graded transmission controller from dodge it will not pass California smog I had to put the original transmission controller to pass smog. Modifications ln California are very impossible there trying to shut down on the street racers. Both motors are badass
RJohnson I have a 07 SRT8 Jeep an I’ve beaten a couple of 6.4 392 Challengers by a car. I have a Mopar CAI, an Corsa exhaust. An only other thing I have is a Billet Oil Catch Can. The 6.1 will get off the line quicker then the 6.4
@@Nosmoke2024 you know that's not fair, 4 wheels pulling vs 2 being pushed, if you didn't get him, that would be sad. But yeah, Jeep is awesome. I have 300 SRT8 6.1
@@brandonmiller4361 not 100 Percent sure but I do believe the transmission is the only thing that's different. Check crate engines and see if they have different listings for that and that should give you your answer. Enjoy!!!!
@@Mr392Scat bro my 6.1 charger would have been best, that bad boy took some so many similar 6.1 stock for stock, cus it won't be fair race with me in my 6.4 now
Your explanation of the 6.1 vs 6.4 is EXACTLY why I like the 6.4 over the Hellcat. I like the part throttle muscle car feel of the Scat pack tooling through town at 1/3 power rowing through the old school manual trans ;
B Mason, you should do more 6.1l 2009-2010 videos often. I would like to learn what Camshaft duration/configuration would be best for my 2009 6.1L Challenger with the NAG1 5spd
I'd take 6.1 over 6.4 but I got 5.7 instead. eagle is so much fun + 5.7 has enough potential to keep up with 6.1/6.4.. I mean throw simple mods and that's it
Thanks for the video that really helped to answer my questions... this will be more of a street car a fun toy if you will... so the 6.1 will probly get it done for me but if the right 6.4 comes up ill try to go that route. Again thanks for the video!!
I think what it mainly comes down to is how far do you wanna go, how much money do your want to spend. A ‘15+ 392 stock for stock is lightyears ahead of a 6.1 car, but when it comes to real mods (more than bolt ons) I have to tip my hat to the 6.1 cars. A 6.1 with a nag is way more solid than our 6.4/HP70 cars. If I’m building a purpose built racecar, 6.1 for the win! For daily/street fun the ‘15+ 392’s are the ticket.
But it still pulls the same 0-100 times and breaks easier.... 6.1 all day. Get her stroked out and there is nothing comparable unless you go get yourself a Hellcat or Daemon. 6.4's are good - but if you think its waaaaayyyy ahead of the 6.1, you're having a laugh. Line up next to a stock one in your stock 6.4 and see how much you won't really win in a race. All you have to do with the 6.1 is spend 10k on cold air, performance radiator/intercooler, slightly larger throttle body, Edelbrock EFI, extractors with a full exhaust system and they will have more power across the rev range than a 6.4 without even cracking the heads or block. Then throw a performance cam in there and she will block smoke all over a 6.4. There's a reason the 6.1s are highly sought after - you can stroke them, tune them right up and push them to the limit and they won't bite you in the arse and break after a big day of Q mile runs.
You know in my country I have no choice other than the 6.1L Hemi that I found for $45k with 50k miles! And you gave me hope since you've driven both and said you wouldn't feel the difference between the two. Btw 6.1L has that deep V8 burbule down low unlike any other. did you notice that? Next video: what are the best bolt ons and tune for 6.1L?
Always great information. Thanks for the vids.i just took delivery of my 2018 max steel blue Charger scat pack. So much more aggressive then my 16 RT Blacktop charger.
Oh... I loved the 6.1. A friend of mine dropped one in a 74 Duster. He ended up making 615 HP to the wheels. Suprised alot of people. I still own a 440 6bbl Road Runner and 70 RT/SE CHARGER 440. LOOKING TO BUY A NEW MOPAR FOR THE SMALL BUT FORMIDABLE STABLE.
I own a 300 SRT8 2006 with simple bolt on parts full custom racing exhaust Mustang Dyno Tuned I'm getting 484 torque foot pounds to the wheels I love my 6.1 liter engine 517 horsepower at the crank not a ton of money to upgrade to 6.1 liter
Hey what’s up boss man! I finally signed into TH-cam and subscribed to the channel instead of just watching all the time lol. Hope I see you at royal purple tomorrow!
Mr. mason..close to the house they opened a pick your part style place I found a really clean 300 Chrysler the home didn't turn over with a breaker bar ..but the car was extremely clean the engine was even cleaner ..well after a month I decided to look at it better it has a beautiful cast aluminum pan....tried to drop it but just not enough room to sneak a peak to see FROM the bottom the place was closing but went back lifted the intact and I seen a dropped intake valve seat.....hmmmm. ok so pulled the pass side head ..and to my surprise it wasn't hurt...New pistons explains why it was so clean...was thinking about pulling it but put the wrench on the front of the engine and no turn??? hmmm. so I pulled the other head.......2 TOTALLY disintegrated cylinder chambers..4 dropped seat 2 damaged pistons...so replace the two pistons and convert from Mrs? (I think the mds maybe the REASON for falling) the hemi had stainless shortie headers but the pistons are on e bay for 150 a set......what you think there are a few he is few it there.....and goobs is of tires many of these were flood victims....a few chargers and a magnum ..not much past 2008 tho....I've been bring my 2000 Dakota R/T. BACK TO LIFE...IT WERE HURTIN.....MANY MAGNUMS OUT THERE PICKED UP SOME 5 SPD MANUALS . COMPLETE FLYWHEEL AND ALL FOR $130. SO SPREAD THE WORD.....GREAT SELECTION ON MOST BRANDS.....ME MOPAR THO.......
B Mason can you make a vid about the 6.1 and how you would mod it!! I would love to see your perspective on what you would do if you had a 6.1!!! I just bought one, and I’m a broke college student I guess you could say.. I’m debating on just leaving it stock and eventually procharging it or should I just start building it (cam, headers, intake, nos, etc) I watch all your vids and I can tell you know a thing or two about these Hemi platforms haha 👍🏼 keep up the great vids!!!
@Rift33SRT when you say built what all did u do? I have an 06 srt8 300c and I wanna embarrass my brother in his hellcat... was considering hellcat swapping the 300 after looking into building an boosting my 6.1 seems like it would be cheaper.
I have an 18 R/T and it's a great car but I wish 100 times over I'd gotten a 6 4. The 5.7 is 110hp in the hole with hp from the start and at some point, you can't bolt on anymore stuff and you'll still probably never make the hp that a 6.4 will make with some bolt ons.
Let me start by saying you give some of the best advice of anyone on youtube so i am very thankful of your responses. I own a 2018 Challenger scat pack. I recently purchased a Corsa extreme exhaust bolt on. Corsa 14989BLK Cat Back Exhaust (Dual Rear Exit with Black Twin Pro Series Tips). i will be taking it to a shop for the install. I just saw some videos where the exhaust was triggering the check engine light. Have you heard of this happening to a lot of these installs? Im nervous about installing this now.
What about the driving experience inside the cabin? Do you like all the new Interior and amenities or would you add stuff to your 6.1, like back up camera and stereo system? Or even a new steering wheel.
I wouldn't mess with anything on an older car... maybe stereo... but that's it. I like them both for what they are, but the newer interior is far more comfortable and attractive.
Seems like everyone is happy with their Mopars be it 5.7 6.1 or 6.4 and of course the supercharged 6.2 is a definite winner. I have an 06 daytona with an estimated 350hp/390lb ft stock with a K&N CAI, MagnaFlow Catbk, HF Catted Mids, Reso delete, Pedal Commamder, Dyno Tuned, 20" DAI ART Hellcat Replicas, staggered set up 245 45 20s Front/275 40 20s Rear. LT Headers and a nice streetable CamShaft with a few other upgrades, maybe some 6.1 heads, some porting of the intake manifold, TB spacer, etc should have her running strong. Runs like a champ currently, but thirsty for a bit more power still. Would like to see how far I can take the 5.7. Likely after the cam, heads and Long Tubes the nxt step will be forced air and forging, reinforcingthe car as I believe on stock parts its only equiped to handle 550hp roughly though this has been disputed though longevity would be my concern if kept stock in any way as I continue to mod
I'm curious. I hear a lot of people comparing the 5.7 L to the 6.4 L. I've heard that the 5.7l L has trouble with the roller lifters which end up shaving the cam lobes almost to circles. Plus I think the valve guides drop. Other than that I've heard of people getting a little more than 400 hp without spending a ton of money. Then I hear that the 6.4 L naturally comes with more power but the internals aren't heavy duty so if you try to build them up, they will grenade. I'm looking for something that I can build to make a Powerful engine that runs long and dependable, not for something that can give out at any time. I haven't heard almost anything about the 6.1 L. Do they have the same problems as the 5.7 L ? Do they have any of their own problems ? Do you or any of your subscribers know about building this engine up or out of the three engines, which is the most dependable and which one can you get a LOT of hp from without selling your house? Thank you.
I know this comment is old but your right. Many 5.7’s have a problem with the lifters failing giving p0305. I currently have that problem with my ram 5.7 and hate it.
@@elvergalarga69 Yup same here, i got the p0305 code. Ended up having one of the lifters going flat causing the piston to stop functioning right (doesnt go up and down). Heard dealerships like to charge 6-7k for a rebuild alone. So Im thinking of swapping to a 6.4, I mainly need the engine, transmission is no issue as long as it was paired with a 5 speed.
Yeah I don't like MDS either, and is one t the reasons why I chose the 6.1. My Challenger SRT8 is mostly stock and was thinking about doing a blower, but I like NA car's and have also thought about going with the cam instead. Hey one-time on Mopar chat live, I asked you your opinion on ported intake work and you told me that honing the deck would be more beneficial. Who do you suggest that I contact for that, like an automotive machine shop ?
Well said B Mason. You sound like a few people that we used to hang with and my old crew chief. Kniwledge really is POWER!! NICELY DONE!! AMOTHER GREAT CHANNEL LIKE DEMONOLOGY AMD SRT.MUSHs. Thank you!!
The 6.1 Hemi: The engine's bore x stroke is 103 mm × 90.9 mm (4.055 in × 3.579 in), and many other changes were made to allow it to produce 425 bhp (317 kW; 431 PS) @ 6200 rpm and 420 lb⋅ft (569 N⋅m) of torque @ 4800 rpm. The engine block is different from the 5.7, with revised coolant channels and oil jets to cool the pistons. A forged crankshaft, lighter pistons, and strengthened connecting rods aid durability. A cast aluminum intake manifold is tuned for high-RPM power and does not include variable-length technology. Chrysler's Multi-Displacement System is not used on the 6.1 6.4 is 4.09 piston bore , 3.724 piston stroke. Better heads and different improvements that I don't know. From what I've been reading 5.7 , 6.1 and 6.2 have same piston stroke with different piston bore . The 6.4 is the best N/A from dodge available in their respective cars.
Myself and my wife are looking in to the charger family, I really like the 6.1. I understand from from some mopar guys that if you put a little time and money into a 6.1 I'd be very happy with it, your thoughts, and thanks for the videos.
The six one cars are fun. Exhaust a tune and depending on how adventurous you want to get and what the budget will leave, Gering can really make those cars wake up. Really all you needs a tune and exhaust
B mason, for someone looking to get into a mopar (used) would a better route be a manual/ auto 6.1 or a 15+ 5.7 RT with the 8 speed? Both are around similar pricing. Really hope you get back to me! Scat packs are still a little outta the price range for the time being.
Besides the trans and nicer interior is it on par in terms of performance to the 6.1? Not many youtube videos comparing the two. A 2011-14 392 is also an option.
@@s197ftw3 it's very close to the 6.1, I've actually seen them beat 6.1 cars before. The interior alone is worth the switch. The 2011 to 2014 6.4 is a good option, only if you are buying a challenger and prefer the manual transmission over the automatic. The 8-speed versus the nag1 is really no comparison. If it were me, I would find a 5/7 with an 8-speed. Save up for a 3.70 rear diff out of a manual Hellcat, tune for the transmission and for the engine and full exhaust. That would make for an incredibly fun car on the street.
Oh i can imagine. Rear gear change in my current car dropped it almost a full second at the track. I just never see many 5.7s break 12s, especially the 15+ models.
My '06 6.1 made 446 hp/416 ft/lbs corrected on a Dynojet (uncorrected #s were 456/426). Mods are Airhammer intake, max torque cam, performance heads, and ported intake manifold. I kept the stock exhaust and gears. She's two tons of fun!
My tuner tells me that the stock short tube headers on a 6.1 flow so well that the gain from a set of long tubes would be comparatively modest and not worth the cost - and he's done hundreds of these.
@David Coppedge I just watched the Summit Racing vid on LT vs. shorty headers to educate myself (th-cam.com/video/9ogUrBltp9Q/w-d-xo.html). I think my guy meant that shorties were more appropriate for a low-to-mid power build like mine. Did you have any issues with emissions? I'm glad yours is strong!
Mr. MASON great info...what pockets....an't got da,money but I have hope ...lucky me they just opened a pick your part style yard real near me...some hope starting to appear.....HEMIs starting to appear..I know they are not the 6.1 or 6.4 which you discussed.but IF I ever get in a position I would get a chance.. since I'm old and schooled...I would with like your saying for the drivablity..daily driving ..simpler better...and the best part is that these hemispheres. bolt on to my 46RHs which are for the most part 727s with overdrives...the 91-95 trans behind most magnum V8s .....I'll get there someday.....and a few,old school mods it will be a smile (SMIRK somewhat at any traffic light...) I put a 69 ROAD RUNNER in to the best of 10:69.at 125...back in 1984.....old schooled and it were a stick shift...so watch out for the DAKOTAS WITH some meats under the back...might be me....and the old Dakota are in the 3500lbs range....and I truly BELIEVE in lighting for playing... again great video.....MR. MASON....THANKS
I own a 6.1L Hemi Challenger SRT8 2009, and i agree. I been loving my babe for quiet sometime. Got it for $18,900+state tax with 52k miles here in NJ. I am curious? is it worth buying a catback? or doing deletes but i dont want drone at all!! ALSO, i am thinking of upgrading the throttle body with a Gram's Performance Throttle 85mm, a Borla S-Type CATBACK if i go with a new exhaust system, an Airaid CAI with hood Scoop, a Petty Strut Brace for the front suspension, and a bigger mid-pulley if i am referring to the correct part. Anyways, any thoughts guys how would you modify the 09 SRT8 by any chance?
Which one can handle boost better, I'm looking to buy and TT or procharge a challenger (have 3 kids so need 5 seats to go to car shows otherwise I would be picking up a 2016 or 17 5.0 lol)
I have a 2010 Challenger SRT-8, only 35000 km, is just a weekend toy, but I love the sound of the 6.1, it is the perfect combination for an old school engine in a new model car, I wouldn't buy any of the new ones though, after the fiat takeover in 2014 the power increased but unfortunately the quality went through the window, a new dodge is a fun car until the guarantee period is over 😥
I'm 4 years late on this piece, but I have never driven a 6.1 Challenger before. I do know that coming from a 5.7, my new 6.4 Scat Pack Challenger is a way better performer, no mods necessary.
The 6,1 charger and challenger is a lot of fun the 300c too. It can hold its own against the newer 6.4s but both are pretty good at performing @chuck rice
I know the Hellcat is faster but how noticeable is it as a daily driver over the 6.4 . Looking at getting a new scat pack or used Hellcat just your thoughts ?
@@bmasontv man thanks that's a big help. I've been going back and forth over my NA challenger project and I think I'm about to piss off a shit ton of people with my decision. I'm gonna pull the 5.7L and drop in a vortec 8100 with aluminum heads and increased compression. I know the 8.1 is heavy but it'll be amazing in a vehicle that's far lighter than the ones that it was originally intended for. Gotta get a custom harness to make it all work. Gotta find out who can do that. Know anyone by chance?
My actual goal is to bring my SRT8 Challenger up to 550HP..That is pretty much where i wanna stay, even if i can get it up to 490ish or a flat 500hp, i would be happy.
@@kartune551 honestly, so far all I have done is catback (MBRP 3" Race series), 87mm Throttle by MMX, high flow filter from KN, 2 custom tunes from Hemifever and 180 stat from Mishimoto, Hawk Performance ceramic pads, Petty Strut Brace, tinted windows lol 5% rear, 20% doors, 70% from windshield, Hellcat Voxx Wheels replica wheels 20x9 front and 20x10.5 rear, Cooper RS3-G1 tires.
@@kartune551 I love it honestly. I know my NAG1 transmission can handle up to 630 at the wheel. Strapped, I'm probably pushing 440 though. If you want real gains for a Hemi, camshaft 270 or 268 aggressively would push me to where I want like.. maybe 590ish at the cramp and 500 flat at the wheel if I go 270ish duration cam either Arrington or COMPS Performance. Other than that, perhaps better fuel lines and higher flow injectors with a better block for an E85 tuning? Could easily push the car up to 501s or 514s. But all motor with few internal upgrades aside the Cam, I would say 560s easily.
I just wish it could be possible to put an 8 speed on my 6.1 and that wouldnt cost an astronomical amount if possible. I know is not ideal, but i wish that would possible as i dont plan on ever getting rid of my 07 charger srt8, and it would help it keep it with new muscle cars. Just wishful thinking.
@@bmasontv true, 3.73 would make it great for launch, but overall i imagine an 8 speed would be awesome for engine longevity as it wouldnt be on high rpms cruising, plus spin city on every red light. But i agree on the potential. Good to keep that in the backburner, and also paired with a TC would be a beast.
@@Nekroman111 engine longevity really wouldn't be diminished. It's really no different than running any other 5 speed manual transmission with 373 gears. The final drive of .67 ish is very common in that world. For that matter my 89 Mustang has had 3.73 gears in it since, well 1990. Figure roughly 2500 rpm at 75 miles per hour.
@@bmasontv is that it really? 2500 at 75mph is not bad at all!! Hell i think youve convinced me! I got LT headers coming soon, so i was going to get a cam from hhp but i may just do the gears then.
Awesome video.The 6.4 is based on the Eagle block isn’t it? I hear the 6.1 can handle more abuse? On Arrington website they have built engines with eagle blocks and 6.1 blocks which one is better and why? Do you know the difference in the castings?
Nice info dude, I live in Australia and I am surrounded by goons in R8/G8 GM 6 n 6.2ltr. So just wondering what I can do to a 6.1 hemi to get 450hp+? Just a friend has one with 50,000km fish on it. If I supa charge it what else must I get done ?
A camshaft, and extrude hone intake and a Hellcat throttle body long tube headers and a good Cat-Back will get you close to that number. Do you want a super charge it, you don't really need to do anything to it just remember that the more boost you throw at it the more important upgraded internals will be. Keep it to around six or seven pounds of boost in you'll be pretty safe for the most part.
@@bmasontv the intake is better tho or so I have been told and a easy 60 to 100 hp gain with the combo plus I will be putting a cam in the car and different pistons ?? I'm asking because I really don't know about dodge motors
@@ohioturkey1 no, not really.... the combo is only an upgrade for the older engines. Cam, lifters, springs, pushrods installed on your 5.7 will be a better combination.
Ill out run your 392 in my 6.1 line up get smoke be my third victim i have very simple mods and 93tune and produce 484 at the wheels now thats the advantage of the 6.1 over 6.4. (srt6.1)
The best thing about the 6.1L Hemi V8 is that you can bore and stroke it into a 7.0L (426) Hemi V8 and demolish that 6.4L Hemi V8 with ease heck even a modded or stroked 5.7L (345) Hemi V8 can take on a 6.4L Hemi V8 with ease as well.
Why hasn’t anybody tested the SRT Hood scoop cold air directly to air box? That would eliminate your under hood warm air issue..also giving you true ram air.
Thanks for vid the 6.1 is no slouch its a beast the 6.4 is faster of course but the 6.1 is no slouch by long shot any 06 srt8 will still smoke any 15+ 5.7 8speed anyday trust me i know i own one
What's sup Twon G, I have a Silver 6.1. I've done several mods to increase power but never taken it to a dyno. What's the best mod that you've seen make a big difference with the car?
What are the pro’s/con’s of wider tires? Was thinking of widening factory rims at a reputable place to 10.5” with 305’s in the rear... don’t ask me why, no logical explanation-because it looks ‘cool’ I guess? Will it negatively affect performance or the car in some way? 2018 challenger T/A 392* It’d be for street use-i don’t track it (for now)*
Basically saying...roll into a 6.4L. I don't care how much money you drop into a 6.1. Same as dropping lots of cash into a 6.4L..look. save your money. Purchase up. If you qualify for a 392? Get the hellcat. If you qualify for a hellcat? Get the redeye...etc..because you will settle for what you buy and wish for the next up. Apply for the hellephant . Let them walk you down at that point. This is where I smile. Maintenance. Can you afford a $120 oil change? Etc...fuel?
I would go 2015+ model year with 6.4 any day, just because of the redesign and interior over the old interior. I love the new interiors so much that I've had 2 challengers since 2016. With interior and overall quality put to the side, I'd still go 6.4 without doubt.
Matthew Stephan I'm gonna try. Probably will have to choose between a 6.1L srt8 or a 5.7L 2015 RT . I can't justify a $500+ car payment to the wife lol
Knowledge is power. I love it when you break it for all to learn.
Best man ever
Demonology but who is this guy? A mopar engineer??
I’ve got a 2010 SRT8 with the 6.1. What a great ride, and what a great deal (I bought it in pristine condition in 2016 with only 20K miles on it for $26K). Silly me, I put a Magnusson supercharger and a Bolsa exhaust on it, boosting HP from 425 to around 590. What a blast - but now my wife won’t drive it, it scares her. For anyone considering going this route, it’s about an $8K adder, but it’s a simple drop in, no engine mods required - and it comes with a pre-tuned ECU. The base 6.1 always put a smile on my face, I would have zero regrets if I dialed back the hands of time and did not put the blower on it. Oh, and by the way, I have had zero maintenance issues on this car, which now has 60K miles on it. Thanks for the post, I found it informative
Preciate this tid bit of information as i just got an og srt8 chally myself i use to have a zl1 n a miss that tq on tap from the blower n have been looking to supervharge my 6.1
Love my 6.1
Braxton Wright yeah I do too and they handle boost better than the 6.4, if we ever decide to go that route as well
Same I love my 6.1 Jeep
Getting a rebuilt 6.1 installed in my '12 challenger. Hope I made the right choice in the long run...
@@OccultOdysseyGamingGalaxies how
Love mine too, hurts a lot of feelings
I test drove both and that 6.1l HEMI is a beast! Love that car but the 6.4 is real fast I just dont like how it feels like a luxury car too floaty fir me the 6.1l felt more direct and light on its feet
Man you always explain things in a way that’s very easy to understand. Thanks
My 6.1 leaves nothing to be desired. In stock form with an exhaust just to make it sound a little deeper.
Truth of the matter is that the 6.1 is a classic: the grandfather to the generations after. The one thing I love about the 6.1"s is the DVD entertainment system in the front and the center console pop out screen for the backseat riders and you can also download music to the car from an IPOD. Much more space and its design has its own aggressive stance. The 6.1 is nostalgic, the 6.4 is new technology.
Yesterday I raced a modded SRT 392 scat pack. With my 6.1 5 speed from highway roll in traffic. Boy he didn't escape me except by half car length. I think it boils down to driver and I'm also not big. I see no difference in scat pack and 6.1 from now on. I have raced them 2ce and they just stood in front of my bumper the gap didn't even increase
I have both of them my 6.1 has the up graded transmission controller from dodge it will not pass California smog I had to put the original transmission controller to pass smog. Modifications ln California are very impossible there trying to shut down on the street racers. Both motors are badass
What transmission controller did you get? I live in Mississippi and they could care less what we do our cars. Thanks Sid
I own a Jeep Grand Cherokee 6.1 and i love it- really appreciate what your doing buddy
RJohnson I have a 07 SRT8 Jeep an I’ve beaten a couple of 6.4 392 Challengers by a car. I have a Mopar CAI, an Corsa exhaust. An only other thing I have is a Billet Oil Catch Can. The 6.1 will get off the line quicker then the 6.4
@@Nosmoke2024 you know that's not fair, 4 wheels pulling vs 2 being pushed, if you didn't get him, that would be sad. But yeah, Jeep is awesome. I have 300 SRT8 6.1
@@vladtepish1790 hey Vlad I have a 2007 Jeep 6.1 and I’m getting a good used 6.1 out of 300 C SRT8 it will fit good with no issues correct?
@@brandonmiller4361 not 100
Percent sure but I do believe the transmission is the only thing that's different. Check crate engines and see if they have different listings for that and that should give you your answer. Enjoy!!!!
You should do a video with 6.4Ls (5 speed vs 8 speed). You are a fountain of knowledge my guy! #moparornocar
I have a 6.4 now and I'm dying to see anyone race me in 6.1. I had 6.1 but it wrecked. So I bought 6.4 and now I can't find 6.1 to race lol
@@hermessrt2414 i just got a 2006 300c SRT8 6.1L. Had 7.3K miles mint condition! I'll pass by to race ya!😅
@@Mr392Scat bro my 6.1 charger would have been best, that bad boy took some so many similar 6.1 stock for stock, cus it won't be fair race with me in my 6.4 now
@@hermessrt2414 i bet! You mod your 6.4L?
@@Mr392Scat naw bro. Stock. Got it on the 2nd of this month
The 6.1 HEMI is a BEAST 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. A true muscle car engine.
Your explanation of the 6.1 vs 6.4 is EXACTLY why I like the 6.4 over the Hellcat. I like the part throttle muscle car feel of the Scat pack tooling through town at 1/3 power rowing through the old school manual trans ;
Doesn’t take much to get 500 H.P. out of a 6.1 and 430 h.p.& torque at rear wheels.I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on both engines,thanks.
Can you elaborate more on how to get 500 go out of 6.1 engine I have a 09 Str8
B Mason, you should do more 6.1l 2009-2010 videos often.
I would like to learn what Camshaft duration/configuration would be best for my 2009 6.1L Challenger with the NAG1 5spd
I really appreciate what you are doing. Thank you so much sir!!
I'd take 6.1 over 6.4 but I got 5.7 instead. eagle is so much fun + 5.7 has enough potential to keep up with 6.1/6.4.. I mean throw simple mods and that's it
lol
Facts. Put a 392 cam in my 2012 5.7 with a tune and headers and its making close to 6.1 power
Thanks for the video that really helped to answer my questions... this will be more of a street car a fun toy if you will... so the 6.1 will probly get it done for me but if the right 6.4 comes up ill try to go that route. Again thanks for the video!!
I think what it mainly comes down to is how far do you wanna go, how much money do your want to spend. A ‘15+ 392 stock for stock is lightyears ahead of a 6.1 car, but when it comes to real mods (more than bolt ons) I have to tip my hat to the 6.1 cars.
A 6.1 with a nag is way more solid than our 6.4/HP70 cars. If I’m building a purpose built racecar, 6.1 for the win! For daily/street fun the ‘15+ 392’s are the ticket.
In stock form the 6.4 is wayyyy ahead of the 6.1 however cams heads real mods is cheaper and easier did I mention you don’t have to swap PCMs 😂
Really? you dont have to bypass the pcm? thats nice i never knew that.
6.4L HemiPower you don’t have to swap PCMs for 2011-2014 392s either
But it still pulls the same 0-100 times and breaks easier....
6.1 all day. Get her stroked out and there is nothing comparable unless you go get yourself a Hellcat or Daemon.
6.4's are good - but if you think its waaaaayyyy ahead of the 6.1, you're having a laugh. Line up next to a stock one in your stock 6.4 and see how much you won't really win in a race. All you have to do with the 6.1 is spend 10k on cold air, performance radiator/intercooler, slightly larger throttle body, Edelbrock EFI, extractors with a full exhaust system and they will have more power across the rev range than a 6.4 without even cracking the heads or block. Then throw a performance cam in there and she will block smoke all over a 6.4. There's a reason the 6.1s are highly sought after - you can stroke them, tune them right up and push them to the limit and they won't bite you in the arse and break after a big day of Q mile runs.
You know in my country I have no choice other than the 6.1L Hemi that I found for $45k with 50k miles! And you gave me hope since you've driven both and said you wouldn't feel the difference between the two. Btw 6.1L has that deep V8 burbule down low unlike any other. did you notice that?
Next video: what are the best bolt ons and tune for 6.1L?
$45k for an 8 year old engine???? you got ripped off big dawg i wouldf just got a new 6.4 with that price lol
blackonwhitechally yeah buddy that's what happens when live in France. Let alone Gas prices and insurance...
@@davidmitchell5638 that's f****** awesome SRT8 running around in France
@@CarlosRomero-qj9je Ship your 6.4 to France and see how much you would want for it then. ;
@@CarlosRomero-qj9je well i just paid $24k for my srt8 6.1 hemi hope i didnt get ripped
I've been struggling with this exact decision. Thanks for the video
put the 6.1 intake manifold and my top end definitely opened up for sure
@4:00 I agree on the MDS lifters being a failure point. I had an MDS lifter rotate 90 degrees and ate through the cam in a u-shape.
Ouch!
Thanks for making this honest comparison video 👍🏻
Totally oblivious to the hemisphere motors all do I own a 6.1 question.. can you put a he'll cat oil pump in to the 6.1
Always great information. Thanks for the vids.i just took delivery of my 2018 max steel blue Charger scat pack. So much more aggressive then my 16 RT Blacktop charger.
Oh... I loved the 6.1. A friend of mine dropped one in a 74 Duster. He ended up making 615 HP to the wheels. Suprised alot of people.
I still own a 440 6bbl Road Runner and 70 RT/SE CHARGER 440.
LOOKING TO BUY A NEW MOPAR FOR THE SMALL BUT FORMIDABLE STABLE.
I own a 300 SRT8 2006 with simple bolt on parts full custom racing exhaust Mustang Dyno Tuned I'm getting 484 torque foot pounds to the wheels I love my 6.1 liter engine 517 horsepower at the crank not a ton of money to upgrade to 6.1 liter
Hey what’s up boss man! I finally signed into TH-cam and subscribed to the channel instead of just watching all the time lol. Hope I see you at royal purple tomorrow!
Josh Henderson I should be there.
Mr. mason..close to the house they opened a pick your part style place I found a really clean 300 Chrysler the home didn't turn over with a breaker bar ..but the car was extremely clean the engine was even cleaner ..well after a month I decided to look at it better it has a beautiful cast aluminum pan....tried to drop it but just not enough room to sneak a peak to see FROM the bottom the place was closing but went back lifted the intact and I seen a dropped intake valve seat.....hmmmm. ok so pulled the pass side head ..and to my surprise it wasn't hurt...New pistons explains why it was so clean...was thinking about pulling it but put the wrench on the front of the engine and no turn??? hmmm. so I pulled the other head.......2 TOTALLY disintegrated cylinder chambers..4 dropped seat 2 damaged pistons...so replace the two pistons and convert from Mrs? (I think the mds maybe the REASON for falling) the hemi had stainless shortie headers
but the pistons are on e bay for 150 a set......what you think there are a few he is few it there.....and goobs is of tires many of these were flood victims....a few chargers and a magnum ..not much past 2008 tho....I've been bring my 2000 Dakota R/T. BACK TO LIFE...IT WERE HURTIN.....MANY MAGNUMS OUT THERE PICKED UP SOME 5 SPD MANUALS . COMPLETE FLYWHEEL AND ALL FOR $130. SO SPREAD THE WORD.....GREAT SELECTION ON MOST BRANDS.....ME MOPAR THO.......
B Mason can you make a vid about the 6.1 and how you would mod it!! I would love to see your perspective on what you would do if you had a 6.1!!! I just bought one, and I’m a broke college student I guess you could say.. I’m debating on just leaving it stock and eventually procharging it or should I just start building it (cam, headers, intake, nos, etc) I watch all your vids and I can tell you know a thing or two about these Hemi platforms haha 👍🏼 keep up the great vids!!!
^^^!!!! doooo ittttt @B Mason
I wish he would. I want to mod my 2010 Dodge Challenger SRT. Want to know the best cam, should I port the intake manifold, and so forth.
@Rift33SRT when you say built what all did u do? I have an 06 srt8 300c and I wanna embarrass my brother in his hellcat... was considering hellcat swapping the 300 after looking into building an boosting my 6.1 seems like it would be cheaper.
Im doin fine with my 2017 5.7
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Me too man, more than enough and it loves bolt ons.
I have an 18 R/T and it's a great car but I wish 100 times over I'd gotten a 6 4. The 5.7 is 110hp in the hole with hp from the start and at some point, you can't bolt on anymore stuff and you'll still probably never make the hp that a 6.4 will make with some bolt ons.
Let me start by saying you give some of the best advice of anyone on youtube so i am very thankful of your responses. I own a 2018 Challenger scat pack. I recently purchased a Corsa extreme exhaust bolt on. Corsa 14989BLK Cat Back Exhaust (Dual Rear Exit with Black Twin Pro Series Tips). i will be taking it to a shop for the install. I just saw some videos where the exhaust was triggering the check engine light. Have you heard of this happening to a lot of these installs? Im nervous about installing this now.
Do u like them? Any issue's with the corsa extreme?
What about the driving experience inside the cabin? Do you like all the new Interior and amenities or would you add stuff to your 6.1, like back up camera and stereo system? Or even a new steering wheel.
I wouldn't mess with anything on an older car... maybe stereo... but that's it. I like them both for what they are, but the newer interior is far more comfortable and attractive.
B Mason thanks, now would you buy a 2010 Dodge Challenger srt-8 or 2015 Dodge Challenger r/t shaker 5.7? Not racing or modifying. Car is just for fun.
@@bmasontv my 6.1 challenger has a good stereo its got The 13 speaker kicker
Seems like everyone is happy with their Mopars be it 5.7 6.1 or 6.4 and
of course the supercharged 6.2 is a definite winner.
I have an 06 daytona with an estimated 350hp/390lb ft stock with a K&N CAI, MagnaFlow Catbk, HF Catted Mids, Reso delete, Pedal Commamder, Dyno Tuned, 20" DAI ART Hellcat Replicas, staggered set up 245 45 20s Front/275 40 20s Rear.
LT Headers and a nice streetable CamShaft with a few other upgrades, maybe some 6.1 heads, some porting of the intake manifold, TB spacer, etc should have her running strong.
Runs like a champ currently, but thirsty for a bit more power still.
Would like to see how far I can take the 5.7. Likely after the cam, heads and Long Tubes the nxt step will be forced air and forging, reinforcingthe car as I believe on stock parts its only equiped to handle 550hp roughly though this has been disputed though longevity would be my concern if kept stock in any way as I continue to mod
I'm curious. I hear a lot of people comparing the 5.7 L to the 6.4 L. I've heard that the 5.7l L has trouble with the roller lifters which end up shaving the cam lobes almost to circles. Plus I think the valve guides drop. Other than that I've heard of people getting a little more than 400 hp without spending a ton of money.
Then I hear that the 6.4 L naturally comes with more power but the internals aren't heavy duty so if you try to build them up, they will grenade. I'm looking for something that I can build to make a Powerful engine that runs long and dependable, not for something that can give out at any time.
I haven't heard almost anything about the 6.1 L. Do they have the same problems as the 5.7 L ?
Do they have any of their own problems ? Do you or any of your subscribers know about building this engine up or out of the three engines, which is the most dependable and which one can you get a LOT of hp from without selling your house?
Thank you.
I know this comment is old but your right. Many 5.7’s have a problem with the lifters failing giving p0305. I currently have that problem with my ram 5.7 and hate it.
@@elvergalarga69 Yup same here, i got the p0305 code. Ended up having one of the lifters going flat causing the piston to stop functioning right (doesnt go up and down). Heard dealerships like to charge 6-7k for a rebuild alone. So Im thinking of swapping to a 6.4, I mainly need the engine, transmission is no issue as long as it was paired with a 5 speed.
Yeah I don't like MDS either, and is one t the reasons why I chose the 6.1. My Challenger SRT8 is mostly stock and was thinking about doing a blower, but I like NA car's and have also thought about going with the cam instead. Hey one-time on Mopar chat live, I asked you your opinion on ported intake work and you told me that honing the deck would be more beneficial. Who do you suggest that I contact for that, like an automotive machine shop ?
The transmission is everything when making this decision.
I've been doing my diligence on my research for 6.1 and have made my decision to buy a 6.1 I just want to know can I plug a 8spd transmission to it?
6.1 2009 triple black fast furious 5
Well said B Mason. You sound like a few people that we used to hang with and my old crew chief. Kniwledge really is POWER!!
NICELY DONE!!
AMOTHER GREAT CHANNEL LIKE DEMONOLOGY AMD SRT.MUSHs.
Thank you!!
The 6.1 Hemi:
The engine's bore x stroke is 103 mm × 90.9 mm (4.055 in × 3.579 in), and many other changes were made to allow it to produce 425 bhp (317 kW; 431 PS) @ 6200 rpm and 420 lb⋅ft (569 N⋅m) of torque @ 4800 rpm. The engine block is different from the 5.7, with revised coolant channels and oil jets to cool the pistons.
A forged crankshaft, lighter pistons, and strengthened connecting rods aid durability. A cast aluminum intake manifold is tuned for high-RPM power and does not include variable-length technology. Chrysler's Multi-Displacement System is not used on the 6.1
6.4 is 4.09 piston bore , 3.724 piston stroke.
Better heads and different improvements that I don't know.
From what I've been reading 5.7 , 6.1 and 6.2 have same piston stroke with different piston bore .
The 6.4 is the best N/A from dodge available in their respective cars.
Myself and my wife are looking in to the charger family, I really like the 6.1. I understand from from some mopar guys that if you put a little time and money into a 6.1 I'd be very happy with it, your thoughts, and thanks for the videos.
The six one cars are fun. Exhaust a tune and depending on how adventurous you want to get and what the budget will leave, Gering can really make those cars wake up. Really all you needs a tune and exhaust
B mason, for someone looking to get into a mopar (used) would a better route be a manual/ auto 6.1 or a 15+ 5.7 RT with the 8 speed? Both are around similar pricing. Really hope you get back to me! Scat packs are still a little outta the price range for the time being.
5.7 with the 8 speed....
Besides the trans and nicer interior is it on par in terms of performance to the 6.1? Not many youtube videos comparing the two. A 2011-14 392 is also an option.
@@s197ftw3 it's very close to the 6.1, I've actually seen them beat 6.1 cars before. The interior alone is worth the switch. The 2011 to 2014 6.4 is a good option, only if you are buying a challenger and prefer the manual transmission over the automatic. The 8-speed versus the nag1 is really no comparison. If it were me, I would find a 5/7 with an 8-speed. Save up for a 3.70 rear diff out of a manual Hellcat, tune for the transmission and for the engine and full exhaust. That would make for an incredibly fun car on the street.
Oh i can imagine. Rear gear change in my current car dropped it almost a full second at the track. I just never see many 5.7s break 12s, especially the 15+ models.
My '06 6.1 made 446 hp/416 ft/lbs corrected on a Dynojet (uncorrected #s were 456/426).
Mods are Airhammer intake, max torque cam, performance heads, and ported intake manifold.
I kept the stock exhaust and gears. She's two tons of fun!
My tuner tells me that the stock short tube headers on a 6.1 flow so well that the gain from a set of long tubes would be comparatively modest and not worth the cost - and he's done hundreds of these.
@David Coppedge
I just watched the Summit Racing vid on LT vs. shorty headers to educate myself (th-cam.com/video/9ogUrBltp9Q/w-d-xo.html). I think my guy meant that shorties were more appropriate for a low-to-mid power build like mine. Did you have any issues with emissions? I'm glad yours is strong!
I think you can mod a 6.1 farther than a weak piston 6.4.
Mr. MASON great info...what pockets....an't got da,money but I have hope ...lucky me they just opened a pick your part style yard real near me...some hope starting to appear.....HEMIs starting to appear..I know they are not the 6.1 or 6.4 which you discussed.but
IF I ever get in a position I would get a chance.. since I'm old and schooled...I would with like your saying for the drivablity..daily driving ..simpler better...and the best part is that these hemispheres. bolt on to my 46RHs which are for the most part 727s with overdrives...the 91-95 trans behind most magnum V8s
.....I'll get there someday.....and a few,old school mods it will be a smile (SMIRK somewhat at any traffic light...) I put a 69 ROAD RUNNER in to the best of 10:69.at 125...back in 1984.....old schooled and it were a stick shift...so watch out for the DAKOTAS
WITH some meats under the back...might be me....and the old Dakota are in the 3500lbs range....and I truly BELIEVE in lighting for playing...
again great video.....MR. MASON....THANKS
I own a 6.1L Hemi Challenger SRT8 2009, and i agree. I been loving my babe for quiet sometime. Got it for $18,900+state tax with 52k miles here in NJ. I am curious? is it worth buying a catback? or doing deletes but i dont want drone at all!! ALSO, i am thinking of upgrading the throttle body with a Gram's Performance Throttle 85mm, a Borla S-Type CATBACK if i go with a new exhaust system, an Airaid CAI with hood Scoop, a Petty Strut Brace for the front suspension, and a bigger mid-pulley if i am referring to the correct part. Anyways, any thoughts guys how would you modify the 09 SRT8 by any chance?
Jimy Batista jeeezz I got my 2008 Challenger SRT8 for $22k with 24k miles. Illinois lol.
Not worth it to get a cat back.
Are 6.4 heads with a cam a good upgrade for my 6.1 ?that’s including a cam?…. Or complete 6.4 top end with intake an throttle body….,
Although it is "doable," i wouldn't. Not really worth it At most, ported Eagle heads and cam.
Which one can handle boost better, I'm looking to buy and TT or procharge a challenger (have 3 kids so need 5 seats to go to car shows otherwise I would be picking up a 2016 or 17 5.0 lol)
6.1.
I have a 2010 Challenger SRT-8, only 35000 km, is just a weekend toy, but I love the sound of the 6.1, it is the perfect combination for an old school engine in a new model car, I wouldn't buy any of the new ones though, after the fiat takeover in 2014 the power increased but unfortunately the quality went through the window, a new dodge is a fun car until the guarantee period is over 😥
I'm 4 years late on this piece, but I have never driven a 6.1 Challenger before. I do know that coming from a 5.7, my new 6.4 Scat Pack Challenger is a way better performer, no mods necessary.
The 6,1 charger and challenger is a lot of fun the 300c too. It can hold its own against the newer 6.4s but both are pretty good at performing @chuck rice
I know the Hellcat is faster but how noticeable is it as a daily driver over the 6.4 . Looking at getting a new scat pack or used Hellcat just your thoughts ?
Gotta question for ya B. What is the CID for the 6.2 Hellcats 378 or 376 so I'm hearing .
Brian Messing 378 if memory serves me correctly
Regarding MDS, if disabled with a tune. Will it affect smog and still have issues with the lifters down the line?
Hey how do hit your messager line I need good advice on my hemi enginee and intake manifold asap Sammy Montoya
Trying to find out how much a 6.1L hemi fully dressed weighs??? Can't seem to find it.
If I remember correctly, I think shipping weight was 535 lbs. For some reason that number is stuck in my head.
@@bmasontv man thanks that's a big help. I've been going back and forth over my NA challenger project and I think I'm about to piss off a shit ton of people with my decision. I'm gonna pull the 5.7L and drop in a vortec 8100 with aluminum heads and increased compression. I know the 8.1 is heavy but it'll be amazing in a vehicle that's far lighter than the ones that it was originally intended for. Gotta get a custom harness to make it all work. Gotta find out who can do that. Know anyone by chance?
@@funguy7979 painless may be able to help. Good luck with your project!
@@bmasontv Painless, of course. Thank you very much.
As far as comfort and daily driving which would you say is better between a 2008 to 2010 srt8 auto vs 2015 rt auto?
2015. Better interior and better features
One last question ln the 2015 dodge challenger can you remote start it with a mobile app?
What’s a good website for engines guys?
I wonder how long and why are 6.4 MDS lifters a failing point and what are they failing from ...modded 6.4 ? Or stock high millage issues ?
I have this new 2017 i need to make sure i take care of it so i dont have pieces ...lol.
My actual goal is to bring my SRT8 Challenger up to 550HP..That is pretty much where i wanna stay, even if i can get it up to 490ish or a flat 500hp, i would be happy.
Any luck so far? Sounds expansive lol
@@kartune551 honestly, so far all I have done is catback (MBRP 3" Race series), 87mm Throttle by MMX, high flow filter from KN, 2 custom tunes from Hemifever and 180 stat from Mishimoto, Hawk Performance ceramic pads, Petty Strut Brace, tinted windows lol 5% rear, 20% doors, 70% from windshield, Hellcat Voxx Wheels replica wheels 20x9 front and 20x10.5 rear, Cooper RS3-G1 tires.
@@jtbatista 😍😍 how u like it so far? Is it a big difference then stock? And are u pushing more then 500 hp?
@@kartune551 I love it honestly. I know my NAG1 transmission can handle up to 630 at the wheel.
Strapped, I'm probably pushing 440 though. If you want real gains for a Hemi, camshaft 270 or 268 aggressively would push me to where I want like.. maybe 590ish at the cramp and 500 flat at the wheel if I go 270ish duration cam either Arrington or COMPS Performance.
Other than that, perhaps better fuel lines and higher flow injectors with a better block for an E85 tuning? Could easily push the car up to 501s or 514s.
But all motor with few internal upgrades aside the Cam, I would say 560s easily.
I just wish it could be possible to put an 8 speed on my 6.1 and that wouldnt cost an astronomical amount if possible. I know is not ideal, but i wish that would possible as i dont plan on ever getting rid of my 07 charger srt8, and it would help it keep it with new muscle cars. Just wishful thinking.
Actually, I can make an argument with a nag1 when paired with a 3.7 rear end is every bit as good as the 8-speed.
@@bmasontv true, 3.73 would make it great for launch, but overall i imagine an 8 speed would be awesome for engine longevity as it wouldnt be on high rpms cruising, plus spin city on every red light. But i agree on the potential. Good to keep that in the backburner, and also paired with a TC would be a beast.
@@Nekroman111 engine longevity really wouldn't be diminished. It's really no different than running any other 5 speed manual transmission with 373 gears. The final drive of .67 ish is very common in that world. For that matter my 89 Mustang has had 3.73 gears in it since, well 1990. Figure roughly 2500 rpm at 75 miles per hour.
@@bmasontv is that it really? 2500 at 75mph is not bad at all!! Hell i think youve convinced me! I got LT headers coming soon, so i was going to get a cam from hhp but i may just do the gears then.
@@Nekroman111 yep, actually based on roughly 90 in diameter tire. That number may actually be closer to 80 miles per hour.
OK I have a 2006 5.7 now it's getting slow I want to go with the same year srt8 or should I go newer 5.7 or 6.4
I would suggest one of the 2015 and up 6.4 variants.
B Mason OK thanks I'll update you when I pickup
Will 6.1 heads and intake bolt up to a 5.7 hemi block ??
A Yo! We need a new video from you on the 2019 lineup
Intake and tune 6.1 is faster than a 5spd 392.
No it’s not lol
Awesome video.The 6.4 is based on the Eagle block isn’t it? I hear the 6.1 can handle more abuse? On Arrington website they have built engines with eagle blocks and 6.1 blocks which one is better and why? Do you know the difference in the castings?
Yes and yes, 6.1 is tougher
Nice info dude, I live in Australia and I am surrounded by goons in R8/G8 GM 6 n 6.2ltr. So just wondering what I can do to a 6.1 hemi to get 450hp+? Just a friend has one with 50,000km fish on it.
If I supa charge it what else must I get done ?
A camshaft, and extrude hone intake and a Hellcat throttle body long tube headers and a good Cat-Back will get you close to that number. Do you want a super charge it, you don't really need to do anything to it just remember that the more boost you throw at it the more important upgraded internals will be. Keep it to around six or seven pounds of boost in you'll be pretty safe for the most part.
Pro charger
I have a shit ton of parts and never build a dodge before I have a lot of queations
From What year to what year? They may bolt up, but I wouldn't spend the time. Port the stock heads. The 5.7 intake is actually pretty good.
@@bmasontv a 2014 blocks 5.7 block and 2010 6.1 heads ans intake ??
@@ohioturkey1 in that case, why would you want to? The 2014 heads are far and away better heads than the 6.1.
@@bmasontv the intake is better tho or so I have been told and a easy 60 to 100 hp gain with the combo plus I will be putting a cam in the car and different pistons ?? I'm asking because I really don't know about dodge motors
@@ohioturkey1 no, not really.... the combo is only an upgrade for the older engines. Cam, lifters, springs, pushrods installed on your 5.7 will be a better combination.
What is the best air filter for a daytona 392????? I've been looking online and cant find a definite answer...
Hellcat air filter
@@bmasontv I have the blue circular filter now. So do I take that off and just drop in the hellcat filter?
I love my 6.2 : )
I'm sure you do
6.1 is better tho, a whipple 2.9 on the 6.1 destroys the hellcat's engine
@@syncbalistic3672 I guess that's why they were discontinued then! : )
The good thing is the six speed manual does not have the mds system
What I wanted to build a 6.1 for a lol, what we would call a mom and pop weekend ride????
i want a 6.1 cause its cheap but i hear the 5.7 you can port the hell out of the bottom end.
Great informative vids love ur channel can u make a vid about the Jeep Diesel engine if it’s reliable 2014 plz thx
B Mason BTW a stock 6.1 w/ nag1 will get zip coded by a 6.4 A8 car in eco mode respectfully
6.4L HemiPower very true, I’ve done it lol.
SRT_Jimmy me 2 and Nag1 392 cats. It’s night and day
Ill out run your 392 in my 6.1 line up get smoke be my third victim i have very simple mods and 93tune and produce 484 at the wheels now thats the advantage of the 6.1 over 6.4. (srt6.1)
Twon G what’s your best timeslip?
@@twong5522 same man. I've gapped several scats before I was fbo.
6.1 💯
The best thing about the 6.1L Hemi V8 is that you can bore and stroke it into a 7.0L (426) Hemi V8 and demolish that 6.4L Hemi V8 with ease heck even a modded or stroked 5.7L (345) Hemi V8 can take on a 6.4L Hemi V8 with ease as well.
Is this similar to the motors that are in the Jeep srt?
Same engines
Why hasn’t anybody tested the SRT Hood scoop cold air directly to air box? That would eliminate your under hood warm air issue..also giving you true ram air.
Thanks for vid the 6.1 is no slouch its a beast the 6.4 is faster of course but the 6.1 is no slouch by long shot any 06 srt8 will still smoke any 15+ 5.7 8speed anyday trust me i know i own one
What's sup Twon G, I have a Silver 6.1. I've done several mods to increase power but never taken it to a dyno. What's the best mod that you've seen make a big difference with the car?
The hellcat is a great car only because of the supercharger but they real cars are the 6.4 scat packs & 392
What are the pro’s/con’s of wider tires? Was thinking of widening factory rims at a reputable place to 10.5” with 305’s in the rear... don’t ask me why, no logical explanation-because it looks ‘cool’ I guess? Will it negatively affect performance or the car in some way? 2018 challenger T/A 392*
It’d be for street use-i don’t track it (for now)*
Pros traction, cons more expensive
Note MDS is not available in a stick. So none of those lifter problems.
Have had lifters fail with non MDS lifters in both auto and stick cars. 1,4,6,7 are MDS cylinders and I have had 5 and 3 fail on 5.7 and 6.4.
My 6.1 has 130000 miles and my cam and lifters looks the same like the day they were installed at the factory...
Well, the only way you would know that for sure is if the engine has been torn apart. So, what kind of build are you working on?
Complete top end, srt max plus cam
@@carltaylor8166 those larger cams work well with the 6-1. I think you'll be happy with the results
@@bmasontv just waiting on my tune🤗
love ur vids
Basically saying...roll into a 6.4L. I don't care how much money you drop into a 6.1. Same as dropping lots of cash into a 6.4L..look. save your money. Purchase up. If you qualify for a 392? Get the hellcat. If you qualify for a hellcat? Get the redeye...etc..because you will settle for what you buy and wish for the next up. Apply for the hellephant . Let them walk you down at that point. This is where I smile. Maintenance. Can you afford a $120 oil change? Etc...fuel?
I would go 2015+ model year with 6.4 any day, just because of the redesign and interior over the old interior. I love the new interiors so much that I've had 2 challengers since 2016. With interior and overall quality put to the side, I'd still go 6.4 without doubt.
Matthew Stephan true but not everyone has the coin
Steven Brown you're correct. I guess assuming you can go for it, get 2015+.
Matthew Stephan I'm gonna try. Probably will have to choose between a 6.1L srt8 or a 5.7L 2015 RT . I can't justify a $500+ car payment to the wife lol
Did Anybody do a 6.1 intake manifold on a 5.7 is it worth it
No real benefit at all.
Ahh got you 6.4 392 manifold it is then
@@bmasontv what if the 6.1 manifold was ported and tuned? The 6.4 just seems more of a hassle to install
@@Ghilliemon for the 6.1 to offer up any gains over the 5.7 I would need to be extrude honed. Not worth the cost on a stock displacement combination.
@@bmasontv got you what would I need for the 392 manifold install or do you have a video I could get a list for a install
Dude should I put the oil cooler on my 6.1 hemi is it a good idea
Srt Charger Old Man 2006 just a cooler thermostat
6.1 gets hot...need lower temp thermostat
Mine hasn't, had it for 2 year's, 178,000 on it, excellent take off
Can you give us an srt8 mod list !!!!! Please
First figure out what you want it to do, go from there
What’s the nag for the 6.1?
Nag1 is the auto trans coupled to the 6.1. 5 speed unit from Mercedes Benz.
KINDA INTERESTING...
B Mason like you said before, don't over look the new 5.7 with the 8 speeds. Things take to bolt on's like fish to water.
Im putting a 6.1 intake manifold in my 18 5.7. Help that thing breath better
Beat the MDS with the 6.4 with the 6 speed Tremec.
6.1 is a beast
5.7 for me!