Wow, never knew SAS cost around 30-40k. I am sorry stock solid solid front axle any day for. Jeep for the win. Any stock solid front axle 4x4 for the win.
I appreciate spotters who volunteer their time to help guide other people through trails. But some are very overzealous for no reason. These are “crawlers.” They go slow. No reason at all to shout commands so fast they can’t register with the driver. “PassengerPassengerPassengerForwardForwardForwardSlowSlowDriverDriver.” I’ve heard pilots lose their engines and call mayday with more composure.
I spotted, and I should have had the driver go much slower since it was his first time off roading. And It is hard to spot a new model vehicle when you don't know it's capabilities. The driver was going too fast so I had to switch directions without any proper synchronization to avoid him going off of the trail. Lesson learned on my part too. I'm not a spotter expert, but I know my capabilities on choosing the right lines on various terrains when the vehicle is being properly driven.
@@jonathanblanc6826 you seem to know what you are doing but you I would find someone shouting "passenger, passenger, passenger!" like that extremely annoying and off putting. Once or twice in a more relaxed tone would be more helpful for the driver I would imagine.
AGREED!!... I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought the spotting was a bit much lol.... "PASSENGER PASSENGER PASSENGER BACK TIRE BACK TIRE BACK TIRE DRIVER DRIVER DRIVER!!"...... Like, ease up.. It's confusing, distracting and not fun for us drivers... It also raises driver stress and fatigue, when someone is yelling frantic instructions, over and over.
Well, not super fair to compare modded Jeep’s or rubicons to an almost base bronco with bigger tires. Add a front locker to it and a more experienced driver and you probably couldn’t see much difference.
And then they give their go at the strip against my sick '92 lowered Civic hatch and realize it was all for nothing. Be mad. Be very mad. If you're not living a low life then you're living a no life
@@natetollett5515 you most certainly will still see a difference, locked or not. A solid axle is a huge advantage when it comes to going over deep ruts like you see in this video.
@@natetollett5515 yeah that’s not rly fair either because most often the wranglers keep all 4 wheels on the ground. So locked or not they’re keeping themselves moving. Whereas the bronco actually needs lockers just to do basic trails. I have an unlocked tj wrangler and I have literally never needed a locker. I don’t do crazy trails but still stuff that unlocked broncos would struggle with
The jeep does have more articulation, but ford built the new bronco to be very competive with Ifs. Nothing new here . Others have done the same. . love the new bronco
You can really see some of these drivers are really novice especially the bronco driver. I think the bronco does good for stock, some of those jeeps are not stock so not really a fair comparison but those guys know how to drive their rigs
Exactly, and then bronco fanboys come with an excuse that the bronco in "speed offroading" like a Baja as if that's even a part of what real offroading is mostly about.
Yes, we were very surprised at how little both Bronco's were flexing. The Jeep has this segment monopolized because it's just that good, and it's been tweaked for decades
@@CoryTheCanadian From a pure rock crawling perspective you could make that argument. For almost literally every other category IFS is better. Ford made these to sell to the masses. SFA while great for rock crawling falls short in many other areas. The good news is that Jeep won't be changing their formula anytime soon. So SFA lovers will still have that as an option.
@@bkassouf1 It is not just rock crawling but anytime the terrain gets more extremely choppy terrain. Take Moab, it is rock but is very smooth and articulation for the most part is not as important as tires and wheel base. The PNW is mostly dirt, Roots and a little rock but short wheelbase, narrow and articulation is important. I think one of the other main aspects of SFA is that it is just more robust.
@@RickStefani ford has shown the ifs is very capable as is. It is the jeep guys that are butt hurt. Ford has many videos with a stock jeep with a stock bronco doing the same videos with ease.. Some feature a stock bronco sport out doing a stock jeep...
Good observation but even if you compared it to a base model wrangler with crank windows, you can still take the sway bar links off in any wrangler trim. Not apples to apples I totally agree with though. Until the bronco puts a solid front axle and limited slip diff in their base models, it never can be apples to apples.
@@SanctumOfDreams I just hit a trail today where I had to disconnect my sway bar 4 times. Have fun with that I guess, not my style of offroading though. Bronco; you just press a button
@@hotdogstandman you can do it with the press or a button on some wranglers. That’s the point. Even if you don’t pay for the convenience of the button you can still do it.
I would look at it from a different angle....My having never spotted a Bronco was hard to judge when and where it would flex. And not knowing the throttle control response made it more difficult. And this was the driver's first time off roading, so it was not an easy spot.
It would have been a better comparison with the Bronco and a 4Runner TRD. Both IFS, similar power. New vs old school. The Jeep is in a league of its own.
@@1969darr "...and go after the next prey." ...which will probably be the Jeep Gladiator. And then the Ford vs. Jeep back & forth will start all over again. ;-) -- BR
Pretty good for the stock bronco with too much air in the tires and inexperienced driver. Wasn't even locked half the time. Both the wrangler and jeep will take you down any trail you want especially with 37s and lockers. Never drove a bronco but assuming it rides better I would probably pick it over jeep just cause I've had better luck with ford. My last jeep started having trouble at 40,000 miles and was worn out by 80,000. My f150 is still pretty solid I take it down trails as bad as them with 35s and a level. The jeep and forerunner guys are always surprised to see me at the end of the trail. I got quiet a few dents and scratches though
My 15 JKU Rubicon is at 85k now with 0 issues, has many badges of honor and lived no easy life. Granted it’s properly upgraded but drivetrain is mostly stock aside from a tune and CAI. Not sure if you neglected maintenance or what on yours but reliable is one of first terms I describe mine with. The guys actually out there running 6-8 trails in the Broncos are breaking steering left and right already, Ford has a few revisions to make before I would trust it where I take my Jeep. No fan boy, I own several of each brand, it’s just the reality I’m seeing currently.
@@joebidden4914 still has rear lockers . Just not front lockers , rubicon’s have front and rear , Broncos are optional aswell with rear locker being standard
So much hate!! If you are a jeep guy, don't trash Ford. If you are a Ford guy, don't trash jeep. Everyone has their choice to pick whatever they want. Either Jeep or Ford has good and bad, and you learn to live with it. The whole point of this is have fun offoading and get to places that the regular city car can't. Instead of fight about Broncos and Wranglers... Better enjoy watching the best of the best ofroader ever... UNIMOG 👍👍
The stock jeep only have slightly better flex , meanwhile that is a base bronco with no locker or sway bar disconnect , compare with badlands that pos heep will be nothing in front of it
@@hotrod7603 except jeeps that dont have an electronic sway bar disco, still have sway bar links that can be disconnected. making the flex vastly greater in any wrangler, base model or rubicon and everything in the middle.
Great to see the Broncos out playing on the trails. We saw some of the demos at EJS this year but none it the wild. Should be a great year on the trails out here in CO and looking forward to seeing all the new rigs (and the builds)!
@@lunamaria1048 yes correct some of the top models do, but the independent suspension just doesn't articulat like a solid axle when one side is literally pushing down the other keeping the wheels on the ground for better traction
I'm seeing a lot of excuses here. "well the bronco doesnt have sway bar disconnects" sounds more like "cmon hes just a little guy take it easy on him". People are also forgetting you can disconnect the sway bar links in *ANY* wrangler trim. All you need is a couple 18mm wrenches and boom, your $28k wrangler sport is suddenly wheeling circles around your $60k badlands sasquatch with a $20k dealer markup.
Yeah, I’ll take my base bronco with Sasquatch and out-wheel all the clowns in this video. I don’t need a sway Bar disconnect. Half the problem with the people in this video is they don’t have half a clue as to what they’re doing.
I think it would have been better if the annoying "spotter" would've just shut the hell up. I've been wheeling for over 35 yrs (that's a fairly mild trail btw) and he's giving them some stupid lines.
This spotter is wayyy to repetitive and frantic, yelling the same instruction over and over in a flurry of rushed instructions, as if there is some need to rush.... That would stress me out and raise driver fatigue, draining any fun.
by observation, the bronco driver seems new vs the skilled jeep driver. and as its been pointed out, seems like the diffs were not locked on the bronco. although yes the jeep definetly performed better, still think that the bronco has made improvements being its been on a very long hiatus. jeep has held on to this segment for some time. i mean lets compare second/third gen jeep to this. when it comes down to it, jeep is only good off road, in every orther category, jeep fails to hit the mark.
No doubt the wranglers did well and had more articulation, they have SFA after all. But the Bronco did very well too compared to them especially for not being badlands models. The jeep at 2:40 was trying a little too hard tho lol
Well, they're all heavily modified, and the Broncos are stock. That old saying rings true here, "You can take a bone stock Jeep, and by just adding tires, wheels, suspension, compresser, winch, bumpers, skids, and lockers, you're ready to go off-road."
@@anibalbabilonia1867 The Badland and the FE are the only ones that get the swaybar disconnect. It is not an option on any other model. The one you see in the video is a base model 2.3
Look, im no ford guy. Chevy and Jeep with a 2020 JL Rubicon on 35s...but the new bronco, they did pretty well with it...BUT, a Wrangler won a world War whereas the other took a 25 year smoke break.
@@jordangraf673 on this video having a solid axle really didn’t matter much when most of the jeeps didn’t have stock suspension anyways. If your gonna compare like this is trying to show make it even.
The Badlands Bronco did great probably due to the lockers. The other Bronco probably has open diffs but I think the negative offset and the lack of skill is what made his Bronco not as capable.
thinkin ill stick with the jeep....ford trying to catch back up....testing and oopsies take years with fords....js if they keep copying dodge/chrysler products they may have a chance
@KFC Man dude, you're like a female saying "I'm only a little pregnant"! You either are or you're not! These are modified. At minimum, they have lifts, and aggressive aftermarket mud terrain tires.
I agree, but I bet soccer moms love them, just like they love the new JLs and Gladiators. Square roll bar tubes with plastic trim around them, push button retractable tops, if that stuff wasn’t designed for soccer moms I don’t know what would be. You couldn’t pay me to own a bronco though, absolutely hate what they did to them, much rather own an old school bronco then the garbage they are putting out now. So glad I found the last 2018 JKU on the lot in 2019, much rather have an old school Jeep as well but I’m a 100% disabled veteran with a history of a broken lower back, and when it gets inflamed my legs go numb and tingly, so no more manual transmissions for me.
Both are very good, but at least in Mexico the Jeep is not prepared to take it out of a concessionary and take it to in the 4x4, on the other hand, the Bronco is. The Jeep you need to put improvements to be able to cross these roads that is shown in the video which the cost rises much more.
Those broncos sure sound like shit. So much clunking and banging on little shit I can get over in my full size pickup. I don't know why they even had a spotter for that trail.
Just came here to see all the butthurt bronco fanboys defending their trash. Weak suspension and steering. Yeah jeeps are junk too but a bronco is more of a smooth terrain vehicle such as getting groceries and going to your office job. Maybe play around on some smooth terrain like sand or hills thats been smoothed by a real rig. P.s. my last jeep had late 70s bronco axles lol.
I’m all about the original bronco. Outside of Jeeps, i love them. But solid axles rule in almost every off-road obstacle. Especially crawling. These new “broncos” are insignificant. IFS in the desert? At 100 mph? Sure. But not slow crawling. They can’t compete. Stability is key. And their “flex” is nonexistent. What a waste. A complete slap in the face to the original. I expected much more from ford on this one. 🤷🏼♂️
It’s pretty easy, how many awards does the Wrangler have compared to the bronco, yeah yeah bronco has not been out that long. Well let me know when the bronco has more awards then the Wrangler. I’m good with my Jeep JKU, the new broncos are obviously soccer mom vehicles, with all the fancy trim. Don’t get me wrong, the JLs and gladiators are soccer mom vehicles as well, plastic covered square roll bar tubing, push button retractable tops. I would never have anything that dumb on my Jeep, I’ll just keep my soft top, I don’t mind having to do it by hand. My cousin on the other hand was creaming his pants, over the push button top, but he has a kid so it works for soccer dads as well.
Would have been interesting to see how well some of the vehicles in the background did.. Honestly too many people get adversarial with their off-road videos, like everyone who wheels knows that you cannot accurately judge two different vehicles in a video like this, but people think the video will get more traffic if it's Jeep vs. Bronco.
Magazines are complaining about the Jeeps crash test. Jeeps in my opinion aren't built to be every comfort & back & forth work vehicles. I'm not saying the Broncos are bad offroad but the Jeep puts it to shame offroad sorry.
The articulation on the Jeeps is far more superior it just floats though these trails. The Bronco has some challenges with no up from the spotter. Bronco may just need to stay in Baja Races.
ford's aren't worth spending money on. if its electrical system doesn't completely crap out on you, the paint will be gone after 5 years, because ford doesn't know how to paint a vehicle. horribly designed engines. just a dogshit product from start to finish.
This why I wheel only with 1 or 2 close friends. Waiting around listening to some know it all screaming directions that you can't hear anyway is more than this vet can handle.
What's that ugly thing on the front of the black jeep? Seems like it's overheating at 5:00. I agree with another comment that ford bronco should compete against another ifs vehicle.
I have a buddy that bought a new Bronco with the 2.7L. I have a 2019 JL Sport S Wrangler with the 3.6L. I beat him in mpg on both city/ highway and off roading. Other thing that disappoints him is when off roading the Bronco is wider than the Jeep and doesn't turn as sharp .
I personally love doing everything in 2wd…. Until I absolutely need 4h or L. My reason for this is I like to make trails more challenging in some cases, and increases the longevity of your T-case.
@@jonathanblanc6826 I get it lack of articulation and novice drivers = tipped rigs. If the driver asked for spotting i can understand that just seemed a little uncalled for in my opinion but, good point I haven't wheeled that trail before and usually roll loan wolf on some knarly trails in AZ and NM
As a group, one of us usually spots new drivers just to be extra careful. All of us drivers were scratching our heads at how both Bronco's on the trails (both driven by new, very enthusiastic off- roaders) just didn't flex....So where one would have expected the Bronco to move through a chosen line, it didn't do it nearly in the way that we thought. No negative thoughts towards the Bronco, but we learned that it's set up very differently than the Jeep for off-road performance. And having test drove one, the ISF makes it a great on road highway and overland rig. Cheers
They're both cool vehicles. The Bronco has the advantage on road and as a daily driver. The Wrangler, with it's solid front axle, has the edge off road. JMO. I like this video.
Everytime I hear a bronco owner talk about their sway bar being disconnected, all I think is "was that extra half inch articulation really with it to you?" Lol
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The spotter was the most challenging part of that dirt road.
From a life long Ford guy; they screwed up going IFS... I'd only own one if it was sas'd, which I can't afford. Too much $$ for the average guy.
A base sas is around 40k not bad at all.
A base is right under 30k
Wow, never knew SAS cost around 30-40k. I am sorry stock solid solid front axle any day for. Jeep for the win. Any stock solid front axle 4x4 for the win.
Bronco is like wheeling a Grand Cherokee lol
Jeep for the win!!!!! But let’s be honest….most of neither will ever see this
When in doubt, gas it.
I appreciate spotters who volunteer their time to help guide other people through trails. But some are very overzealous for no reason. These are “crawlers.” They go slow. No reason at all to shout commands so fast they can’t register with the driver. “PassengerPassengerPassengerForwardForwardForwardSlowSlowDriverDriver.” I’ve heard pilots lose their engines and call mayday with more composure.
I spotted, and I should have had the driver go much slower since it was his first time off roading. And It is hard to spot a new model vehicle when you don't know it's capabilities. The driver was going too fast so I had to switch directions without any proper synchronization to avoid him going off of the trail. Lesson learned on my part too.
I'm not a spotter expert, but I know my capabilities on choosing the right lines on various terrains when the vehicle is being properly driven.
@@jonathanblanc6826 you seem to know what you are doing but you I would find someone shouting "passenger, passenger, passenger!" like that extremely annoying and off putting. Once or twice in a more relaxed tone would be more helpful for the driver I would imagine.
AGREED!!... I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought the spotting was a bit much lol.... "PASSENGER PASSENGER PASSENGER BACK TIRE BACK TIRE BACK TIRE DRIVER DRIVER DRIVER!!"...... Like, ease up.. It's confusing, distracting and not fun for us drivers... It also raises driver stress and fatigue, when someone is yelling frantic instructions, over and over.
“Go go go go go go “.. thank goodness the person driving the bronco didn’t listen because they made it fine crawling .
Remember off roading 20yrs, ago? You never heard this annoying crap
Pretty impressive for ifs but the wrangler is still king.
solid front axle for the win.
Well, not super fair to compare modded Jeep’s or rubicons to an almost base bronco with bigger tires. Add a front locker to it and a more experienced driver and you probably couldn’t see much difference.
And then they give their go at the strip against my sick '92 lowered Civic hatch and realize it was all for nothing. Be mad. Be very mad. If you're not living a low life then you're living a no life
@@natetollett5515 you most certainly will still see a difference, locked or not. A solid axle is a huge advantage when it comes to going over deep ruts like you see in this video.
@@natetollett5515 yeah that’s not rly fair either because most often the wranglers keep all 4 wheels on the ground. So locked or not they’re keeping themselves moving. Whereas the bronco actually needs lockers just to do basic trails. I have an unlocked tj wrangler and I have literally never needed a locker. I don’t do crazy trails but still stuff that unlocked broncos would struggle with
Jeep did it better.
I'm a ford guy but I think the jeep still has it, the articulation is crazy in the jeep. Thanks for the video.
I was surprised the bronco frame was so ridged since most Ford trucks have a very flexible frame. The one time it would have been useful.
nah the jeep guys just know they have parts available for replacement when they inevitably trash the vehicle lol
The jeep does have more articulation, but ford built the new bronco to be very competive with Ifs. Nothing new here . Others have done the same. . love the new bronco
Nice rugged looking mini van and jeep comparison
@@henryoak2001 you are Wong Gorgeous Bronco and an impøtent lifted Geo tracker
You can really see some of these drivers are really novice especially the bronco driver. I think the bronco does good for stock, some of those jeeps are not stock so not really a fair comparison but those guys know how to drive their rigs
Most annoying spotter ever.
Jeep did better it has better articulation and flex in the suspension
NO doubt. Jeep Wrangler is superior to Ford Bronco (big chunky and boxy vehicle).
";-)
Exactly, and then bronco fanboys come with an excuse that the bronco in "speed offroading" like a Baja as if that's even a part of what real offroading is mostly about.
jeep has so much flex
Jeep wins…as always
I like how the Power Wagon is sitting in the background like a dad watching his kids play in the park.
Lol
👌😂👍lmfao! Good one ☝️
Or like someone who is to afraid to take the first leap.
@@cesarpalmos8235 oh come on. The power wagon could plow through that easy.
@@jordangraf673 Oh come on, the Bronco can plow through it easily. It's all about the driver.
Seems all the Ford guys that keep saying the Bronco has more articulation are smoking some good stuff for sure.
Yes, we were very surprised at how little both Bronco's were flexing. The Jeep has this segment monopolized because it's just that good, and it's been tweaked for decades
@@jonathanblanc6826 Very true. Ford messed up big time by not going with the solid axle in my opinion.
@@CoryTheCanadian From a pure rock crawling perspective you could make that argument. For almost literally every other category IFS is better. Ford made these to sell to the masses. SFA while great for rock crawling falls short in many other areas. The good news is that Jeep won't be changing their formula anytime soon. So SFA lovers will still have that as an option.
@@bkassouf1 It is not just rock crawling but anytime the terrain gets more extremely choppy terrain. Take Moab, it is rock but is very smooth and articulation for the most part is not as important as tires and wheel base. The PNW is mostly dirt, Roots and a little rock but short wheelbase, narrow and articulation is important. I think one of the other main aspects of SFA is that it is just more robust.
@@RickStefani ford has shown the ifs is very capable as is. It is the jeep guys that are butt hurt. Ford has many videos with a stock jeep with a stock bronco doing the same videos with ease.. Some feature a stock bronco sport out doing a stock jeep...
I still take the Jeep over the bronco anytime! But the bronco is cool too!👌😎👍
Not really apples to apples... that's a base bronco without lockers or disconnecting sway even!
That’s a badlands with both lockers and disconnecting sway bar. It’s as close, stock for stock, that you will get.
@@mutzman Only the very first one is... the rest of the video is not, when it's struggling without lockers.
Good observation but even if you compared it to a base model wrangler with crank windows, you can still take the sway bar links off in any wrangler trim. Not apples to apples I totally agree with though. Until the bronco puts a solid front axle and limited slip diff in their base models, it never can be apples to apples.
@@SanctumOfDreams I just hit a trail today where I had to disconnect my sway bar 4 times. Have fun with that I guess, not my style of offroading though. Bronco; you just press a button
@@hotdogstandman you can do it with the press or a button on some wranglers. That’s the point. Even if you don’t pay for the convenience of the button you can still do it.
The Wrangler is the King of the trail👍🏾
Yeah until badland bronco arrives
@Hot Rod lol u wish.
Bronco is more comfy on the streets 100%.
But nothing can beat solid axles in offroad 😉
Wrangler is better than bronco
I don't think the spotter knows what he's doing..
I would look at it from a different angle....My having never spotted a Bronco was hard to judge when and where it would flex. And not knowing the throttle control response made it more difficult. And this was the driver's first time off roading, so it was not an easy spot.
It would have been a better comparison with the Bronco and a 4Runner TRD. Both IFS, similar power. New vs old school. The Jeep is in a league of its own.
Give it time. Ford will finally admit that the Wrangler Rubicon is superior to the Bronco and go after the next prey.
@@1969darr "...and go after the next prey."
...which will probably be the Jeep Gladiator. And then the Ford vs. Jeep back & forth will start all over again. ;-)
-- BR
Jeeps break. They suck
Pretty good for the stock bronco with too much air in the tires and inexperienced driver. Wasn't even locked half the time. Both the wrangler and jeep will take you down any trail you want especially with 37s and lockers. Never drove a bronco but assuming it rides better I would probably pick it over jeep just cause I've had better luck with ford. My last jeep started having trouble at 40,000 miles and was worn out by 80,000. My f150 is still pretty solid I take it down trails as bad as them with 35s and a level. The jeep and forerunner guys are always surprised to see me at the end of the trail. I got quiet a few dents and scratches though
That jeep was stock and no lockers man. Even had stock tires. It was a base model Jeep.
My 15 JKU Rubicon is at 85k now with 0 issues, has many badges of honor and lived no easy life. Granted it’s properly upgraded but drivetrain is mostly stock aside from a tune and CAI. Not sure if you neglected maintenance or what on yours but reliable is one of first terms I describe mine with. The guys actually out there running 6-8 trails in the Broncos are breaking steering left and right already, Ford has a few revisions to make before I would trust it where I take my Jeep. No fan boy, I own several of each brand, it’s just the reality I’m seeing currently.
Your right Daniel the bronco will be better on your arthritis
@@joebidden4914 still has rear lockers . Just not front lockers , rubicon’s have front and rear , Broncos are optional aswell with rear locker being standard
@Hunter Basselite but the Jeep in this video wasn't even a Rubicon. It was a X model which is the base and it has no lockers at all.
So much hate!! If you are a jeep guy, don't trash Ford. If you are a Ford guy, don't trash jeep. Everyone has their choice to pick whatever they want. Either Jeep or Ford has good and bad, and you learn to live with it. The whole point of this is have fun offoading and get to places that the regular city car can't.
Instead of fight about Broncos and Wranglers... Better enjoy watching the best of the best ofroader ever... UNIMOG 👍👍
I'm surprised at how stiff the bronco is. Flex to create traction is everything when off roading. Jeep by far is still king. Hit and miss Ford!
Everyone wheeling with these Broncos said the sane thing. They have very little flex, even with the sway bar disconnect
@@jonathanblanc6826 yes the bronco seems to compete with the grand Cherokee imo.
The stock jeep only have slightly better flex , meanwhile that is a base bronco with no locker or sway bar disconnect , compare with badlands that pos heep will be nothing in front of it
@@hotrod7603 except jeeps that dont have an electronic sway bar disco, still have sway bar links that can be disconnected. making the flex vastly greater in any wrangler, base model or rubicon and everything in the middle.
Aftermarket needs to sas the bronco...then we're talking..
I think the Bronco owner should've used -77 offset wheels so that it would utilize both edges of the trails simultaneously. 🤦🏻♂️
Big boy drives that Bronco like someone else paid for it!
Great to see the Broncos out playing on the trails. We saw some of the demos at EJS this year but none it the wild. Should be a great year on the trails out here in CO and looking forward to seeing all the new rigs (and the builds)!
Lockers and solid axels appear to have the advantage over the independent suspension, but yet still some superb off-roadsters
The Bronco has lockers
@@lunamaria1048 yes correct some of the top models do, but the independent suspension just doesn't articulat like a solid axle when one side is literally pushing down the other keeping the wheels on the ground for better traction
Any bronco can have lockers. It’s an option on all of them. The live axles are def the move tho wish the bronco had them
I'm seeing a lot of excuses here. "well the bronco doesnt have sway bar disconnects" sounds more like "cmon hes just a little guy take it easy on him". People are also forgetting you can disconnect the sway bar links in *ANY* wrangler trim. All you need is a couple 18mm wrenches and boom, your $28k wrangler sport is suddenly wheeling circles around your $60k badlands sasquatch with a $20k dealer markup.
Neither one of those Broncos were Sasquatched. One of them wasn’t even a “badlands”
Yeah, I’ll take my base bronco with Sasquatch and out-wheel all the clowns in this video. I don’t need a sway Bar disconnect. Half the problem with the people in this video is they don’t have half a clue as to what they’re doing.
That spotter was really annoying me…
Um. Read the comments to others...If you know spotting, and have a first time driver, then it is not easy. Cheers
I think it would have been better if the annoying "spotter" would've just shut the hell up.
I've been wheeling for over 35 yrs (that's a fairly mild trail btw) and he's giving them some stupid lines.
This spotter is wayyy to repetitive and frantic, yelling the same instruction over and over in a flurry of rushed instructions, as if there is some need to rush.... That would stress me out and raise driver fatigue, draining any fun.
by observation, the bronco driver seems new vs the skilled jeep driver. and as its been pointed out, seems like the diffs were not locked on the bronco. although yes the jeep definetly performed better, still think that the bronco has made improvements being its been on a very long hiatus. jeep has held on to this segment for some time. i mean lets compare second/third gen jeep to this. when it comes down to it, jeep is only good off road, in every orther category, jeep fails to hit the mark.
No doubt the wranglers did well and had more articulation, they have SFA after all. But the Bronco did very well too compared to them especially for not being badlands models. The jeep at 2:40 was trying a little too hard tho lol
This bronco doesn’t have sway bar disconnect, it would have flexed way harder
@@jaycevessier7554 exactly, that's what I meant when I said it wasn't a badlands model because the badlands has the SBD
@@eliasgutierrez6789 yeah I'd love to see those broncos with the sasquatch package
The Bronco was much more capable than the drivers! Very poor comparison! Spotter could use some training also!
That guy trying to direct the bronco messed up the whole video.
Amazing how the jeeps don’t seem to strain at all. It’s like their drivers don’t even need help.
Well, they're all heavily modified, and the Broncos are stock. That old saying rings true here, "You can take a bone stock Jeep, and by just adding tires, wheels, suspension, compresser, winch, bumpers, skids, and lockers, you're ready to go off-road."
Wow that bronco is nice, but the bronco spotter needs to be replaced he was shyt.
not stock jeep stock bronco and obvious driver skill lvl difference
Not bad at all for a 4 cylinder, manual, and no sway bar disconnects
The bronco also come with swaybar disconnect!
@@anibalbabilonia1867 The Badland and the FE are the only ones that get the swaybar disconnect. It is not an option on any other model. The one you see in the video is a base model 2.3
@@anibalbabilonia1867 Nope only the first one in the video the rest of them dont
Yes power wagon watching the kids nice
Look, im no ford guy. Chevy and Jeep with a 2020 JL Rubicon on 35s...but the new bronco, they did pretty well with it...BUT, a Wrangler won a world War whereas the other took a 25 year smoke break.
Yet Ford built the most “jeeps” that won that war…
Nice if jeeps All had stock suspension only jeep I saw that was stock was the teal one and it looked and acted like the bronco.
The bronco will never have a solid front axle. That’s the biggest difference.
@@jordangraf673 on this video having a solid axle really didn’t matter much when most of the jeeps didn’t have stock suspension anyways. If your gonna compare like this is trying to show make it even.
I’d be curious to know if the Black Diamond was using his rear locker?
looks like it was off most of the time.
Jeep for the win. Solid front axle anyday.
Weak. A late 90s jeep is better than new wrangler and bronco combined.
wheelbase says otherwise
The Badlands Bronco did great probably due to the lockers. The other Bronco probably has open diffs but I think the negative offset and the lack of skill is what made his Bronco not as capable.
Trail 11 washouts are the unofficial test trail of the NE lol
Absolutely that section is great for testing the suspensions
thinkin ill stick with the jeep....ford trying to catch back up....testing and oopsies take years with fords....js if they keep copying dodge/chrysler products they may have a chance
The spotter for the bronco in the beginning sounds like a stroke
Love these comparison of lifted and modified jeeps against broncos which are in essence stock (except for larger tires on one of them).
@KFC Man no they're not.
@KFC Man but they ARE modified.
@KFC Man like I said, modified.
@KFC Man dude, you're like a female saying "I'm only a little pregnant"! You either are or you're not! These are modified. At minimum, they have lifts, and aggressive aftermarket mud terrain tires.
Dude these Jeeps are not modified much to make a big difference. Stock Rubicons are untouchable on articulation.
Jeep’s are better looking than the ugly Bronco’s is my opinion.
I agree, but I bet soccer moms love them, just like they love the new JLs and Gladiators. Square roll bar tubes with plastic trim around them, push button retractable tops, if that stuff wasn’t designed for soccer moms I don’t know what would be. You couldn’t pay me to own a bronco though, absolutely hate what they did to them, much rather own an old school bronco then the garbage they are putting out now. So glad I found the last 2018 JKU on the lot in 2019, much rather have an old school Jeep as well but I’m a 100% disabled veteran with a history of a broken lower back, and when it gets inflamed my legs go numb and tingly, so no more manual transmissions for me.
Ford is weak.....Ifs is weak af
Both are very good, but at least in Mexico the Jeep is not prepared to take it out of a concessionary and take it to in the 4x4, on the other hand, the Bronco is.
The Jeep you need to put improvements to be able to cross these roads that is shown in the video which the cost rises much more.
Stocks jeeps can be wheeled easily. Hell, my stock 2001 jeep would've been able to wheel all of these. Shit slaps
This just isn’t true. Even a stock 4Runner with better tires could do this stuff easily.
Those broncos sure sound like shit. So much clunking and banging on little shit I can get over in my full size pickup. I don't know why they even had a spotter for that trail.
Bronco well done! but Wrangler’s the king off road!
Does Ford actually make a two-door bronco because every off-road work on TH-cam is a f****** four-door station wagon
Just came here to see all the butthurt bronco fanboys defending their trash. Weak suspension and steering. Yeah jeeps are junk too but a bronco is more of a smooth terrain vehicle such as getting groceries and going to your office job. Maybe play around on some smooth terrain like sand or hills thats been smoothed by a real rig.
P.s. my last jeep had late 70s bronco axles lol.
I’m all about the original bronco. Outside of Jeeps, i love them. But solid axles rule in almost every off-road obstacle. Especially crawling. These new “broncos” are insignificant. IFS in the desert? At 100 mph? Sure. But not slow crawling. They can’t compete. Stability is key. And their “flex” is nonexistent. What a waste. A complete slap in the face to the original. I expected much more from ford on this one. 🤷🏼♂️
MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE BRONCO WAVE(🤙) HANG LOOSE. it's already happening in michigan and surrounding states. Let's make it an official thing....
It’s pretty easy, how many awards does the Wrangler have compared to the bronco, yeah yeah bronco has not been out that long. Well let me know when the bronco has more awards then the Wrangler. I’m good with my Jeep JKU, the new broncos are obviously soccer mom vehicles, with all the fancy trim. Don’t get me wrong, the JLs and gladiators are soccer mom vehicles as well, plastic covered square roll bar tubing, push button retractable tops. I would never have anything that dumb on my Jeep, I’ll just keep my soft top, I don’t mind having to do it by hand. My cousin on the other hand was creaming his pants, over the push button top, but he has a kid so it works for soccer dads as well.
Would have been interesting to see how well some of the vehicles in the background did..
Honestly too many people get adversarial with their off-road videos, like everyone who wheels knows that you cannot accurately judge two different vehicles in a video like this, but people think the video will get more traffic if it's Jeep vs. Bronco.
Por mucho los arrebasas los jeep, cualquier version, excelentes ,manejos, Bronco le falta mucho por aprender en rutas
We all know the Wrangler can wheel!... However, I'm very impressed by what Ford has done with the Bronco!
The comparison I would like to see would be the bronco versus a 4Runner. I think that's more comparable
Magazines are complaining about the Jeeps crash test. Jeeps in my opinion aren't built to be every comfort & back & forth work vehicles. I'm not saying the Broncos are bad offroad but the Jeep puts it to shame offroad sorry.
The articulation on the Jeeps is far more superior it just floats though these trails. The Bronco has some challenges with no up from the spotter. Bronco may just need to stay in Baja Races.
ford's aren't worth spending money on. if its electrical system doesn't completely crap out on you, the paint will be gone after 5 years, because ford doesn't know how to paint a vehicle. horribly designed engines. just a dogshit product from start to finish.
This why I wheel only with 1 or 2 close friends. Waiting around listening to some know it all screaming directions that you can't hear anyway is more than this vet can handle.
What's that ugly thing on the front of the black jeep?
Seems like it's overheating at 5:00.
I agree with another comment that ford bronco should compete against another ifs vehicle.
The bronco is nice but it is more like a tank, its way too big like a fj cruiser. Just my opinion though. I would prefer a 4runner or a wrangler.
Bronco was like....I have to do that again?? ..noooooooo
Nice but not quite an even match displayed. That black Jeep is stacked and that base Bronco didn’t seem to have his locker on 😂
love how the jeeps just climb would not get a bronco now cause of it not pushing through the rocks but good video.
Put top of the line model broncos up against a base jeep and the Jeep is still better
With just 2 minutes of watching. The Jeep is the better off-road option.
The spotter makes this video unbearable, I had to turn the sound off to watch
Don't waste your money on junk jeep and broncos. Get a side by side and call it done.
I have a buddy that bought a new Bronco with the 2.7L. I have a 2019 JL Sport S Wrangler with the 3.6L. I beat him in mpg on both city/ highway and off roading. Other thing that disappoints him is when off roading the Bronco is wider than the Jeep and doesn't turn as sharp .
Really? Gas mileage isn’t too great? Interesting. What do you average usually?
They both need a tow after 40k miles. Makes no difference
I don't own neither, but i think jeeps are more off road style than broncos . That's only my humble opinion
Driving with one hand on the wheel and the other on the window sill.
That jeep has a lift, vs stock bronco…..
Cost of the bronco not worth it. They probably paid 20k over sticker because they had to have it
Spotty sucked. To many words
Will wait until they make V8 wrangler lol
I personally love doing everything in 2wd…. Until I absolutely need 4h or L.
My reason for this is I like to make trails more challenging in some cases, and increases the longevity of your T-case.
Coming to a used dealership near you
dude driving the bronco is not a good driver
Spotter needs to chill out with the bronco dude. It has lockers and there is nothing for him to crash into!
Lockers were not on. And driver was first time out. And if you know Crawler Ridge there are rims that have tipped over. Was being cautious here
Rigs
@@jonathanblanc6826 I get it lack of articulation and novice drivers = tipped rigs. If the driver asked for spotting i can understand that just seemed a little uncalled for in my opinion but, good point I haven't wheeled that trail before and usually roll loan wolf on some knarly trails in AZ and NM
As a group, one of us usually spots new drivers just to be extra careful. All of us drivers were scratching our heads at how both Bronco's on the trails (both driven by new, very enthusiastic off- roaders) just didn't flex....So where one would have expected the Bronco to move through a chosen line, it didn't do it nearly in the way that we thought. No negative thoughts towards the Bronco, but we learned that it's set up very differently than the Jeep for off-road performance. And having test drove one, the ISF makes it a great on road highway and overland rig. Cheers
@@jonathanblanc6826 looked like it was doing pretty good, thanks for the details.
Bronco sucks it’s too stiff
Jeep still best off road 🙆
Bronco is cute for trying
The jeeps are modified fude
There’s nothing that’s going to articulate like a well built solid axle system. Doesn’t take long into this video to see that
They're both cool vehicles. The Bronco has the advantage on road and as a daily driver. The Wrangler, with it's solid front axle, has the edge off road. JMO. I like this video.
Everytime I hear a bronco owner talk about their sway bar being disconnected, all I think is "was that extra half inch articulation really with it to you?" Lol
You forgot to disconnect the sway bar. And why are you comparing heavily modded Wranglers to a stock Bronco?
I’m a bronco guy but these clowns showing up to an off-road park without lockers is embarrassing