If its anything like the D3/D4, you can get into extended mode by shoving a block under one of the diffs when its in off road height - then try and lower it to standard and the car should spot its not lowering and should provoke the it to go into extended mode AND from there you can get it in super-extended by pushing / holding the raise button
You have to update your wade sensing subscription. Land Rover allows you a few free trials of wade sensing and then you need to purchase a WS plan. £10/mth is the basic plan. Just update your credit card detail in the info screen and it will debit your card automatically. Same same for using the radio!
Another great video, thanks guys. We just got the 2.06 update in Australia and impressed that it lets you “schedule” a time while it is locked to update the system (takes 40 mins) . Scheduled it and went sailing, all done and ready to name the voice command when I got back Hey 110!
The air intakes are not the concern, its the level where the vulnerable electrical systems start. Mainly the steering pump and starter. This is based off the current gen RRS though, but I don't see that changing much with the new defender. But i could be wrong of course. Also extended mode needs to manually engaged when the truck tells you too via the dash. Once its there you can increase it more by holding the brake and holding the UP on the suspension
A dealer told me that the wading depth was just below the point at which the Defender would start to float away - so going deeper and you risk the car floating - rather than anything else.
@@johnwillett4086 I've gone deeper then what is said is the max depth, there was definitely no floating away. Its the same type of situation as why they don't say the max sideways tilt on these, there are other factors will come into play so its hard to give a 100% answer
@@L663 These will be the things... sensors... not that we need a wading sensor, we could live without that up to now, but I assume there are others which will stop you to continue (sooner or later), where ever you are....
Great update of everything you are working on - thanks. I have experienced similar anomalies with the radio - sometimes I make whole journeys without it then it just comes back, very bizarre. The remote engine/climate start is also temperamental, hence, you might want to check yours.
I have had several ( like 5 ) updates to the "Live apps" over the last week so Land Rover are clearly trying to fix some issues - but may be causing others !
My understanding is that it goes into extended mode when it senses that the suspension has been unloaded, with the idea being that that would typically happen because the chassis is being supported by an obstacle. I've heard you can trick it with a jack.
Re wade sensing not available. This happened to me as well. It was when the temperature was hovering around freezing. At least that is what I deduced. Thx for the vlog. Very useful.
That may be the case but not sure - it would be nice if the system informed you of the reason... maybe....a "more info" button etc so you could understand it more. Thanks for the comment though..... hopefully nothing is broken just cold !
I watched your video where you installed the snorkel and I was surprised that there did not appear to be any seal between it and the air box inside so nothing would have kept water from going through the port in the fender.
Land Rover says the snorkel does not increase wading depth so they don't need a seal . The snorkel is supposed to be more of a clean air intake. Not sure about dust getting in there though.
@@gordonwedman3179 Kind of my point. No seal and the air intake is on the side of the fender. As long as the intake is not too small or clogged, it is doubtful that dust will be sucked in around the tube.
"Wade" tooo complicated, and the only grass water most of the defenders will see is the front lawn when it's being washed. I am not a diehard landrover fan and do like the new vehicle , but how many software faults can there be. If it wasnt foryou and your percervourance / patience we would never know. Keep um coming. Mike
Sometimes the radio does take a minute or so to load after a cold early morning start. It appears to need to reload the broadcast signals and that takes a few moments before then returning exactly as it was. There is no real pattern as it is random but when it happens, it is early in the day. No proven idea why though.🧐 Maybe Mr Skywalker can reset something regarding Wade sensing...does it work better if you test the function with a bucket of water??? Good luck Simon! 😃😃😃
Seems everything is now Defender 2020 related, but very few of us have one. A lot of experts believe there will be a huge resurgence of interest for 2000-2009 models. That said, there is also a growing interest in the U.S. for extended range gas tanks. New Ford trucks now offer (nearly) 40-gallon fuel tanks as a factor-option. This might be something to look into for the Range Rover Sport 2005-2009, especially the 2009. I for one would be interested in an extended-range fuel tank for the 2009 RRS, as gas stations are slowly disappearing.
Hi Christopher.... we are an interesting point in the business right now... which way do we go... ? more TH-cam...to do this we need more workshop / production crew etc... more design now we have 3D in house capability etc ? The Defender is a gift in that it keeps giving rise to ideas for products and video etc.. but we still have all the old project cars and we do dig them out from time to time
What a great videos you do. Really useful and interesting!! Just to ask you, are you happy with the cloth seats? Would you choose any new configuration now with your experience with the Defender? Any new or different option? Thanks a lot !!!
Hi - good question. I think the S spec is amazing.... leather steering wheel... electrically adjustable seats with manual slide back and forward ( much quicker ) same infotainment system... heated screen.... 360 Degree camera .. wade sensing ( when it works ).. parking sensors.. brake assist... cruise control etc The only thing i added was Terrain response 2 which i am still not sure how useful it is... The thing I would spec is the rear electric diff... that is my only regret so far !
@@L663 Thanks a lot for answering! Please keep on with your great videos and PowerfulUK products. I bought you some for my L322 and they are fantastic. Best regards.
@@L663 I have a genuine question what do you think would happen to all the electronics if you had drowned the LR, maybe that could be the next video? BTW have a tow truck on standby.
Great video, unsure on the panel you've attached on the side, seems like a snag hazard if you catch anyone or anything while driving past, definitely take the skin off
Great video's & full of info, but honestly seeing the faff you guy's have gone through over the various different thing's that you've added and what's already on the vehicle and bearing in mind you know this car inside out compared to someone normal they wouldn't stand a chance of being able to make half the stuff on it work without a PhD in computers and that's when it's actually working,, in fairness LR should of just made it a driverless vehicle and let the computer do all the work because to have all that tech on it its obviously not meant for people who can actually drive because it would literally drive them up the wall or at least it would me,
Love your videos and hats off for your determination in troubleshooting your defender. Can anyone be buying one who's watched your channel? I’d love a new F Pace but having seen what a shaming disaster Pivi Pro is in the defender, sadly I won’t be investing. I’m out! Keep up with your videos, brightens up our lockdown!! Cheers guys!
Is there any sound deadening material in the back door / tailgate (or other doors)? I suppose water would get in the side doors and maybe the rear door and get moldy? I'm wondering if road noise is an issue, or if you think it could use some material? As always, great videos!
@@crazygooseventures Not sure how you'd like me to respond to your question, but . . . you cannot distinguish between a sensor being completely blocked, and something that should be detected. In this case the message could read "check sensors", perhaps, If you got mud on your screen, you'd expect to have to clean it off, no?
@@Defender3d my comment was more just a rhetorical statement BUT, i guess we need to take a step back and look at it another way. At what point did we (JLR) think that wading sensors are now a required piece of off-road kit? Logically walking through this, before wading sensors, the driver would get out and walk the route to ensure it was vehicle safe. This prevented the vehicle from getting unnecessarily damaged and it forced the driver to consider whether this crossing was worth the risk or not. With sensors you're relying on tech to do that job (but it's a reactionary system which means it only works once you've entered the water and can only give feedback on what's around you) unless as a driver you walk the route anyway which means the sensors really aren't needed. As a driver, you know already. But back to my original comment, going off-road implies you're going to get dirty at some point so sensors like this really make them useful only in optimal conditions which is counter to "off-roading".
@@crazygooseventures I really don't care Alan. I was just pointing out what happened with me, not entering into a debate about why the car has the sensors it has. It's clearly just a gimmick anyway. Nobody sane would go in deep water with such an expensive car, without checking it out themselves first.
Water and LR electrics....ummmmm. Imagine what this will be like when out of warranty, RR mechanic "you have half a dozen computers down that will quadzillion wonga or a kidney".
Hi Guys, just wondering if the snorkel obscures the forward view, I live in France so will be buying a L/H drive and understand that snorkel is still mounted on left as the air intake is on left.
@carwow did a video with defender, g wagon and jeep. That shows the extended height being done. The car was stationary and it did not look like they were messing about trying to trick it into thinking it was in water.
The Pivi system can be a bit glitchy at times, like mine sometimes displays the rear facing camera image when manoeuvring forward. But at least software updates can sometimes iron out the bugs. If it doesn't reset, I sincerely hope LR aren't going to get sticky and say well you exceeded the limitations of the car and therefore won't fix it.
Birmabright is what most land rover bodies were originally made from, series 1’s to series 3’s, Birmabright is a Magnesium/ Aluminium alloy. Modern defenders bodies aren’t Birmabright as this was a trade name of a specific company that went bust, but they are still made from a similar alloy. I assume the new defender is made from a similar product.
7:00 On the Disco (I've got a D4), if you press and hold the 'up' on the suspension after it's at off-road height, for around 7 or 8 seconds, it'll raise up a little more...? I've been off-roading and got a little beached, the car somehow sensed it and raised it up a little more, which helped and got out. I watched a TH-cam vid of someone putting a block of wood under their D3 and lower the car on to it, the car lifted back up and went in to extended mode too. Could it be looking at the loads on the suspension and figures it could be stuck?
I am concerned about all these sensors on modern cars.Weather seems to affect them too much-My last car had anti collision braking and always threw a warning, when it was raining heavily or freezing, that the system was not working.Parking sensors too when freezing-Can we trust autonomous cars?Or is there a long way to go yet?
A good point and it does seem to be a sensor failure from my investigations today ! Also we have the failed camera on the Tesla.... a key part of autonomous driving !
please please please make a cover for the spare wheel holder, i would love to dismount the spare wheel for winter, when i am not really in the need of having it
Today ive hit a curb at around 10mph with my front side wheel being sideways in my lr4 and im nervous something may be broken (it drives normally) what do u think I should check 😅
I saw a video a while ago of someone with a Disco 3 they put wood under the car and lowerd the suspension then the suspension went up then they put more wood under it and it went into extended mode .you might be able to find the video on TH-cam
Yes i was going to try it a slightly different way by tricking the wade sensors.... but the Defender had the last laugh and wont go into wade sensing mode ! maybe they have built some AI into the car - it is listening to me and turns of features i want to play with !
Hello Simon. Great video as always. Can you tell me the brand and model o the camera that you use for shooting the videos and also the wireless microphone? Thank you so much. All the best.
11:41 My wade sensors constantly think I am driving though water. I have the foot plates fitted. Do you think that is why? That makes it a design fault surely?
Find the videos really interesting. Seeing lots of software glitches on the new Defenders from various channels. Any plans or products for facelifted Discovery Sport?
I would love to see a video on teh "activity key" and how that is used.. I know it is now available in teh USA. As it has been for some time on the Discovery.. Thanks
Is the Plate you put on the passenger side rear near where the ladder was, is that so you can swap the lunch box over? because that is what I need. Land Rover states the lunch box is on the drivers side because that side is stronger for the door so will help with the weight in the box what Bull the box only carries 17kg the ladder can carry 150kg so that theory is wrong. I would prefer the lunch box on the Passenger side.
That is the maddest theory i have every heard. The only thing i can see is that the drivers side has 3 bolts holes in the waist rail - the passenger side only has 2. So I think this means that the passenger side is better suited to NARROW items and the Drivers side better suited to WIDER items. We are planning on making a plate for both sides so you can take your pick. We have designed mounts for side carriers / fuel can / work lamps etc. The plate will be made from powder coated aluminium.
Jeez! Another glitch. Saw another review with the sunroof not working and another with a defective compressor. Mine has been OK the last 3 weeks - locked down and haven't used it!
@@L663 But it doesn't instill much confidence. Would you trust this vehicle really out in the wilds - the Outback or jungle - out of reach of a dealer or recovery service? Given the faults I have seen on yours and others, and the faults I have had on mine I would be very reluctant to do so; the Highlands is about as far as I would go.
These modern 4x4's by Land Rover. Are you sure you should be taking it off road?😉 Seems to me that Land Rover thought, well no bugger takes them off road so we'll fill it full of gadgets to please the Chelsea folk and sell a tonne of them.
@@secpac58chichi What's the chances of you trading it in when the Grenadier is released?? Once you've obviously got plenty of aftermarket parts scanned and produced that is.
@@L663 I took it that when you clicked on details the first time it was saying "downloaded 1.9.7 released 4/1" after updating it was confirming that was the version installed. But then again, who knows? I have an FPace and the infotainment system is full of oddities 😝. The Evoque I had prior to this car was more glitchy but with less features! I am looking forward to more info on the dash cam solution. Thanks for the great videos.
It would be cheaper.!! Unless LR made it then you probably wouldn't be able to use it as a boat. As they seem pretty good at the moment at making thing's that aren't any use for what their made for, must be a new nishe in the market that I've missed😂.!!
@@L663 Hi Simon, If we can get them on both sides, I would be happy. Two Jerry can holders coming up. Then I will need to order 2 for both of our defenders. Will it also fit if the ladder is there?
@@petermarten10 Not sure of your location but l am under the impression that if using a jerry can on the outside of a vehicle to carry fuel in, that is by law not allowed in England for safety reasons.
I’m not getting any of the software downloads. I tried to contact to WIFI, Hard reset by removing Battery terminal. But no luck. I’m still running on the same software version defender came with. Any ideas??
May be your battery is not charged enough, some updates take quite a time to download. It happened to me too and I googled that and seen a video recommending to have a reasonable ride and then try again as due to covid, most people are not really going on for longer journeys. I did it and it worked out for me.
Was the issue with the radio just that no station was currently selected (as opposed to it forgetting that any stations were tuned)? Perhaps the reset you did earlier cleared the currently selected station. It does say "No tuned station" (singular), as opposed to "No tuned stations" (plural). The plate looks like a lovely piece of engineering.
Not too clever that the Snorkal is not safe guarding Water as well as dust . How many drivers will drown their 110s & 90s thinking their Snorkal will safe guard - -Not Good
I do half think I have done something wrong... but pretty sure there is a problem somewhere. If i was on dry land about to cross a river surely i would want to engage wade mode and wade display before entering the river...
I thought Wade Sensing only works when it senses a few cm of water there by shortening the road height you where on the road so the height did not change stick something under the sensor to shorten the road height then it should work
That would make some sense... but we are pretty sure we put it in wade sense before on a normal road before we went into the water ! We will check it out next week !
you can hire software engineers pretty cheap from "some countries" might I suggest putting one on the payroll and have them ride shotgun 24/7 to keep the Landy going - LOL
This thing died at birth. Got many good things going for it but then someone decided it would be nice to put 85 microprocessors in to controll everything.🤦
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If its anything like the D3/D4, you can get into extended mode by shoving a block under one of the diffs when its in off road height - then try and lower it to standard and the car should spot its not lowering and should provoke the it to go into extended mode AND from there you can get it in super-extended by pushing / holding the raise button
You have to update your wade sensing subscription. Land Rover allows you a few free trials of wade sensing and then you need to purchase a WS plan. £10/mth is the basic plan. Just update your credit card detail in the info screen and it will debit your card automatically. Same same for using the radio!
Haha
What a shitty company to charge for radio and a feature that should be free,you pay enough for those buckets of bolts and they expect you to pay more
Didn't see that in the brochure!!!!!!!!
Another great video, thanks guys. We just got the 2.06 update in Australia and impressed that it lets you “schedule” a time while it is locked to update the system (takes 40 mins) . Scheduled it and went sailing, all done and ready to name the voice command when I got back Hey 110!
Nice idea for the name !
The air intakes are not the concern, its the level where the vulnerable electrical systems start. Mainly the steering pump and starter. This is based off the current gen RRS though, but I don't see that changing much with the new defender. But i could be wrong of course.
Also extended mode needs to manually engaged when the truck tells you too via the dash. Once its there you can increase it more by holding the brake and holding the UP on the suspension
I dont think there is a steering pump on the Defender ? I thought it was an electric steering column assist ?
@@L663 my bad that was what I meant lol 😆
A dealer told me that the wading depth was just below the point at which the Defender would start to float away - so going deeper and you risk the car floating - rather than anything else.
@@johnwillett4086 I've gone deeper then what is said is the max depth, there was definitely no floating away. Its the same type of situation as why they don't say the max sideways tilt on these, there are other factors will come into play so its hard to give a 100% answer
I hope LR is watching this, and fix the expensive puzzle. Thanks again Simon
IT looks like its a failed sensor today based on my investigations.
@@L663 These will be the things... sensors... not that we need a wading sensor, we could live without that up to now, but I assume there are others which will stop you to continue (sooner or later), where ever you are....
Great update of everything you are working on - thanks. I have experienced similar anomalies with the radio - sometimes I make whole journeys without it then it just comes back, very bizarre. The remote engine/climate start is also temperamental, hence, you might want to check yours.
I have had several ( like 5 ) updates to the "Live apps" over the last week so Land Rover are clearly trying to fix some issues - but may be causing others !
Software dates - I guess the software was released on the 4th Jan. and you actually installed it on the 9th Jan.
super interested in the MOLLE panel. Any idea when it goes on sale? Cheers Nick
My understanding is that it goes into extended mode when it senses that the suspension has been unloaded, with the idea being that that would typically happen because the chassis is being supported by an obstacle. I've heard you can trick it with a jack.
Re wade sensing not available. This happened to me as well. It was when the temperature was hovering around freezing. At least that is what I deduced. Thx for the vlog. Very useful.
That may be the case but not sure - it would be nice if the system informed you of the reason... maybe....a "more info" button etc so you could understand it more. Thanks for the comment though..... hopefully nothing is broken just cold !
Great car , relying on its customers to find the faults...
I watched your video where you installed the snorkel and I was surprised that there did not appear to be any seal between it and the air box inside so nothing would have kept water from going through the port in the fender.
Land Rover says the snorkel does not increase wading depth so they don't need a seal . The snorkel is supposed to be more of a clean air intake. Not sure about dust getting in there though.
@@gordonwedman3179 Kind of my point. No seal and the air intake is on the side of the fender. As long as the intake is not too small or clogged, it is doubtful that dust will be sucked in around the tube.
It will be interesting to see what LR say about the Wade sensing and as for the date of software update that is just mad.
Alloy and steel mix was the cause of some corrosion on the previous Defender.
But modern joining and adhesive techniques now prevent this
"Wade" tooo complicated, and the only grass water most of the defenders will see is the front lawn when it's being washed. I am not a diehard landrover fan and do like the new vehicle , but how many software faults can there be. If it wasnt foryou and your percervourance / patience we would never know. Keep um coming. Mike
Sometimes the radio does take a minute or so to load after a cold early morning start. It appears to need to reload the broadcast signals and that takes a few moments before then returning exactly as it was. There is no real pattern as it is random but when it happens, it is early in the day. No proven idea why though.🧐 Maybe Mr Skywalker can reset something regarding Wade sensing...does it work better if you test the function with a bucket of water??? Good luck Simon! 😃😃😃
Seems everything is now Defender 2020 related, but very few of us have one. A lot of experts believe there will be a huge resurgence of interest for 2000-2009 models. That said, there is also a growing interest in the U.S. for extended range gas tanks. New Ford trucks now offer (nearly) 40-gallon fuel tanks as a factor-option. This might be something to look into for the Range Rover Sport 2005-2009, especially the 2009. I for one would be interested in an extended-range fuel tank for the 2009 RRS, as gas stations are slowly disappearing.
Hi Christopher.... we are an interesting point in the business right now... which way do we go... ? more TH-cam...to do this we need more workshop / production crew etc... more design now we have 3D in house capability etc ? The Defender is a gift in that it keeps giving rise to ideas for products and video etc.. but we still have all the old project cars and we do dig them out from time to time
You got the wade sensors wet, what did you expect? Love the accessories 😍
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What a great videos you do. Really useful and interesting!! Just to ask you, are you happy with the cloth seats? Would you choose any new configuration now with your experience with the Defender? Any new or different option? Thanks a lot !!!
Hi - good question. I think the S spec is amazing.... leather steering wheel... electrically adjustable seats with manual slide back and forward ( much quicker ) same infotainment system... heated screen.... 360 Degree camera .. wade sensing ( when it works ).. parking sensors.. brake assist... cruise control etc The only thing i added was Terrain response 2 which i am still not sure how useful it is... The thing I would spec is the rear electric diff... that is my only regret so far !
@@L663 Thanks a lot for answering! Please keep on with your great videos and PowerfulUK products. I bought you some for my L322 and they are fantastic. Best regards.
@@L663 I have a genuine question what do you think would happen to all the electronics if you had drowned the LR, maybe that could be the next video? BTW have a tow truck on standby.
Love your channel. Keep it up. I would love to see more information on the new defender.
pretty sure this Landy software was brought to you by the same software company that did the Boeing 737 MAX software
Great video, unsure on the panel you've attached on the side, seems like a snag hazard if you catch anyone or anything while driving past, definitely take the skin off
Hi - yes thats a point to consider.
one positive thing if you go fast enough when greenlaning you can help trim the hedges
@@dwrowley just like a tractor mounted hedge cutter !
Normal just pop it back to the dealer again have another coffee. And a morning off work.
Broken&Land Rover&Electronics problem....CLASSIC!
Great video's & full of info, but honestly seeing the faff you guy's have gone through over the various different thing's that you've added and what's already on the vehicle and bearing in mind you know this car inside out compared to someone normal they wouldn't stand a chance of being able to make half the stuff on it work without a PhD in computers and that's when it's actually working,, in fairness LR should of just made it a driverless vehicle and let the computer do all the work because to have all that tech on it its obviously not meant for people who can actually drive because it would literally drive them up the wall or at least it would me,
Love your videos and hats off for your determination in troubleshooting your defender. Can anyone be buying one who's watched your channel? I’d love a new F Pace but having seen what a shaming disaster Pivi Pro is in the defender, sadly I won’t be investing. I’m out! Keep up with your videos, brightens up our lockdown!! Cheers guys!
The Pivi Pro system is good but needs improving ! lucky it can be improved by software over the air but Land Rover need to listen to feedback !
@@L663 Absolutely, especially yours!
Hi Simon, do you have the side plates for holding Jerry Cans and other stuff available yet and will you be making a more in depth video on it thanks
Is there any sound deadening material in the back door / tailgate (or other doors)? I suppose water would get in the side doors and maybe the rear door and get moldy? I'm wondering if road noise is an issue, or if you think it could use some material?
As always, great videos!
One other thing Simon I think the car has to be in 4WD for the Wade sensing to operate in addition the the ground level I mentioned earlier
It's always in 4WD though. I think it was just a glitch.
I tried it in Lo ratio this morning still the same...
@@L663 can you go back to a water sport and see if it turns on? Maybe it actually needs to detect water.
Just the publicity I hoped for when this thing was released
Nice looking car. Any chance of doing rear fuel pump belt on l494 or any SDV6 ???
Cheers.
When my wade sensors had a lot of mud on them, I got the same message that wade sensing was not available. after a clean, they worked fine.
Kind of ironic considering what “off-roading” implies?
@@crazygooseventures Not sure how you'd like me to respond to your question, but . . . you cannot distinguish between a sensor being completely blocked, and something that should be detected. In this case the message could read "check sensors", perhaps, If you got mud on your screen, you'd expect to have to clean it off, no?
@@Defender3d my comment was more just a rhetorical statement BUT, i guess we need to take a step back and look at it another way.
At what point did we (JLR) think that wading sensors are now a required piece of off-road kit? Logically walking through this, before wading sensors, the driver would get out and walk the route to ensure it was vehicle safe. This prevented the vehicle from getting unnecessarily damaged and it forced the driver to consider whether this crossing was worth the risk or not. With sensors you're relying on tech to do that job (but it's a reactionary system which means it only works once you've entered the water and can only give feedback on what's around you) unless as a driver you walk the route anyway which means the sensors really aren't needed. As a driver, you know already.
But back to my original comment, going off-road implies you're going to get dirty at some point so sensors like this really make them useful only in optimal conditions which is counter to "off-roading".
@@crazygooseventures I really don't care Alan. I was just pointing out what happened with me, not entering into a debate about why the car has the sensors it has. It's clearly just a gimmick anyway. Nobody sane would go in deep water with such an expensive car, without checking it out themselves first.
@@Defender3d that’s fine. Just a discussion.
Water and LR electrics....ummmmm. Imagine what this will be like when out of warranty, RR mechanic "you have half a dozen computers down that will quadzillion wonga or a kidney".
Hi Guys, just wondering if the snorkel obscures the forward view, I live in France so will be buying a L/H drive and understand that snorkel is still mounted on left as the air intake is on left.
@carwow did a video with defender, g wagon and jeep. That shows the extended height being done. The car was stationary and it did not look like they were messing about trying to trick it into thinking it was in water.
It appears JLR have outsourced their R&D function to its customers and in particular powerfulukltd!
Great stuff, as per normal.
The Pivi system can be a bit glitchy at times, like mine sometimes displays the rear facing camera image when manoeuvring forward. But at least software updates can sometimes iron out the bugs.
If it doesn't reset, I sincerely hope LR aren't going to get sticky and say well you exceeded the limitations of the car and therefore won't fix it.
Hi - someone else is having the same problem when its cold...
U can also get it into extended mode using a pile of wood. U put a pile of wood under my lr4 and lowered it onto it and it went into extended mode
Yes i was going to try a different method using the wade sensors to trick it ... but i need to get the wade mode working again.
Birmabright is what most land rover bodies were originally made from, series 1’s to series 3’s, Birmabright is a Magnesium/ Aluminium alloy. Modern defenders bodies aren’t Birmabright as this was a trade name of a specific company that went bust, but they are still made from a similar alloy. I assume the new defender is made from a similar product.
7:00 On the Disco (I've got a D4), if you press and hold the 'up' on the suspension after it's at off-road height, for around 7 or 8 seconds, it'll raise up a little more...?
I've been off-roading and got a little beached, the car somehow sensed it and raised it up a little more, which helped and got out. I watched a TH-cam vid of someone putting a block of wood under their D3 and lower the car on to it, the car lifted back up and went in to extended mode too. Could it be looking at the loads on the suspension and figures it could be stuck?
We will play about a bit more with the suspension see if we can work it all out - there is a physical up down button on the Defender.
Would like to see some discovery sport add ons
I am concerned about all these sensors on modern cars.Weather seems to affect them too much-My last car had anti collision braking and always threw a warning, when it was raining heavily or freezing, that the system was not working.Parking sensors too when freezing-Can we trust autonomous cars?Or is there a long way to go yet?
A good point and it does seem to be a sensor failure from my investigations today ! Also we have the failed camera on the Tesla.... a key part of autonomous driving !
please please please make a cover for the spare wheel holder, i would love to dismount the spare wheel for winter, when i am not really in the need of having it
Any plans or products for facelifted Discovery Sport?
Ali and steel on tailgate-Glavanic corrosion waiting to happen like VW Phaeton?
No, new joining and Adhesive techniques are now used, which prevents corrosion.
The rubber grommets on the tailgate will be of interest to the off road gang to mount a CB aerial on the spare wheel mount.
Yes there are a few possible uses for these holes and they are well hidden so hope it helps someone !
Good old “Switch it off and on again “ Or maybe it’s got water damage 😛Haha great video lads, stay safe and please keep it coming,
Yes I am worried about the irony of the water damaged wade sensor !
LOVE that Molle plate what a brilliant idea Do you know if there any uk rules and regs for what can be carried on these?
Its clearly reusing the ladder fixing points - I want to know if the ladder will still fit over the top albeit covering the front half of the plate?
It uses the waist rail ladder points so you cannot fit the ladder as well - i dont think so anyway.
Today ive hit a curb at around 10mph with my front side wheel being sideways in my lr4 and im nervous something may be broken (it drives normally) what do u think I should check 😅
Its always worth getting things checked but normally wheel damage will be the first sign of damage.
I saw a video a while ago of someone with a Disco 3 they put wood under the car and lowerd the suspension then the suspension went up then they put more wood under it and it went into extended mode .you might be able to find the video on TH-cam
Yes i was going to try it a slightly different way by tricking the wade sensors.... but the Defender had the last laugh and wont go into wade sensing mode ! maybe they have built some AI into the car - it is listening to me and turns of features i want to play with !
Oxmanagain has a video showing how he tricks his LR3 into extended mode. Does the Defender drop a bit when driving at high speed like my Range Rovers?
Yes if you are in access mode it will raise at speed... if you are in extended mode it will drop at speed.
Wade sensing not available, I'll have to look into that.....because Land Rover.
Hello Simon. Great video as always. Can you tell me the brand and model o the camera that you use for shooting the videos and also the wireless microphone? Thank you so much. All the best.
Hi - we are using a DJI Osmo Pocket 2 with the supplied wireless mic !
@@L663 Thank you so much. Best regards.
11:41 My wade sensors constantly think I am driving though water. I have the foot plates fitted. Do you think that is why? That makes it a design fault surely?
Yes this could be a problem... I plan to fit the steps next week when I get my car back.
Find the videos really interesting. Seeing lots of software glitches on the new Defenders from various channels.
Any plans or products for facelifted Discovery Sport?
The Discovery Sport is the car we somehow missed - and it was a bit of a mistake on our part ! We will keep an eye for a high mileage / crashed one
First production models always have glitches. Its normal across most brands
I would love to see a video on teh "activity key" and how that is used.. I know it is now available in teh USA. As it has been for some time on the Discovery.. Thanks
One regret with my car - i dont think i can retro fit the activity key as i do not have keyless entry !
@@L663 thank you. I am sorry to hear that.
Is the Plate you put on the passenger side rear near where the ladder was, is that so you can swap the lunch box over? because that is what I need. Land Rover states the lunch box is on the drivers side because that side is stronger for the door so will help with the weight in the box what Bull the box only carries 17kg the ladder can carry 150kg so that theory is wrong. I would prefer the lunch box on the Passenger side.
That is the maddest theory i have every heard. The only thing i can see is that the drivers side has 3 bolts holes in the waist rail - the passenger side only has 2. So I think this means that the passenger side is better suited to NARROW items and the Drivers side better suited to WIDER items. We are planning on making a plate for both sides so you can take your pick. We have designed mounts for side carriers / fuel can / work lamps etc. The plate will be made from powder coated aluminium.
@@L663 Hi Simon count me in for 2 plates please
The wade sensors on my old Defender work great, just have to dry out my socks afterwards :)
Dry socks... you are such a townie !
At least they work, and far more reliable, ha you could have a whole bag of spares for a £tenner 😂😂
If you hold that switch in off road height for 3 or 4 seconds it will go into extended.
Great show.
Jeez! Another glitch. Saw another review with the sunroof not working and another with a defective compressor. Mine has been OK the last 3 weeks - locked down and haven't used it!
It may be a glitch.. let me get it checke out..
@@L663 But it doesn't instill much confidence. Would you trust this vehicle really out in the wilds - the Outback or jungle - out of reach of a dealer or recovery service? Given the faults I have seen on yours and others, and the faults I have had on mine I would be very reluctant to do so; the Highlands is about as far as I would go.
@@DH-sm7sw Can you check your wade sensing display works please.. just incase they have messed something up in a software update.
@@L663 will take a look but I have steps so it may not work
@@L663 It switches on OK when standing, and the software is updated
These modern 4x4's by Land Rover. Are you sure you should be taking it off road?😉 Seems to me that Land Rover thought, well no bugger takes them off road so we'll fill it full of gadgets to please the Chelsea folk and sell a tonne of them.
so true
@@secpac58chichi What's the chances of you trading it in when the Grenadier is released?? Once you've obviously got plenty of aftermarket parts scanned and produced that is.
Is the 4/1/21 date the day that that software version was released? The 9/1 being the day you installed it?
I do wonder - but the data did not change before / after the update !
@@L663
I took it that when you clicked on details the first time it was saying "downloaded 1.9.7 released 4/1" after updating it was confirming that was the version installed.
But then again, who knows? I have an FPace and the infotainment system is full of oddities 😝. The Evoque I had prior to this car was more glitchy but with less features!
I am looking forward to more info on the dash cam solution.
Thanks for the great videos.
Hi 🙋♂️ one ☝️ more great 👍 video
Thanks 🙏
Pro tip for Landrover executives - complete the product and reliability tests BEFORE releasing the Defender for sale.
Not the first new Defender I’ve seen failing
Mmmm. Think I'll stick with my td5. That thing is a laptop with wheels
Worst you'll get with your td5 is an oil leak in the ecu, this thing is a complete disaster in comparison
I reckon these landrovers will win awards for unreliability judging by what we have seen on TH-cam. I wouldn't dare buy one. Good video 👍
All this waiding stuff..........have you considered buying a boat? I just thought I'd mention it......
It would be cheaper.!! Unless LR made it then you probably wouldn't be able to use it as a boat. As they seem pretty good at the moment at making thing's that aren't any use for what their made for, must be a new nishe in the market that I've missed😂.!!
Did I spy some flappy paddles on your steering wheel? 👀
We have worked out how to mount them... just working out the wiring etc
How can I get my hands on the workshop manuals you refer to in your videos??
Yes you can pay for access to these at Land Rover Topix website.
@@L663 What happened to a Haynes manual from Halfords???
Do Land Rover do an accessory to fit the spare wheel on the bonnet a la series models ?
I did consider this but i dont think i would be able to see over the bonnet.... unless I had a space saver / redesigned the bonnet !
Very doubtful current regulations would allow it. Pedestrian safety etc etc ...
Stephen Fogarty, very doubtful I was serious in the first place 😜
22AJ55 🤣🤣 👍👍
When can we expect the HSX plate to be ready to order?
Give me a couple of weeks to finish the design ! glad someone is interested !
Would love one as well. Would be really cool if there was a version that worked with the ladder
@@L663 Hi Simon, If we can get them on both sides, I would be happy. Two Jerry can holders coming up. Then I will need to order 2 for both of our defenders. Will it also fit if the ladder is there?
@@petermarten10 Not sure of your location but l am under the impression that if using a jerry can on the outside of a vehicle to carry fuel in, that is by law not allowed in England for safety reasons.
Waiting for the shift paddles 😉
They are jsut bolted on at the moment - I have the wiring diagram but need to look at the CCF files next.
I’m not getting any of the software downloads. I tried to contact to WIFI, Hard reset by removing Battery terminal. But no luck. I’m still running on the same software version defender came with. Any ideas??
May be your battery is not charged enough, some updates take quite a time to download. It happened to me too and I googled that and seen a video recommending to have a reasonable ride and then try again as due to covid, most people are not really going on for longer journeys. I did it and it worked out for me.
@@AmHDS thanks for your response. Let me try charging the battery.
A 30 second fuse to a stick of dynamite should do the trick!!!!!!!!!!!
Was the issue with the radio just that no station was currently selected (as opposed to it forgetting that any stations were tuned)? Perhaps the reset you did earlier cleared the currently selected station. It does say "No tuned station" (singular), as opposed to "No tuned stations" (plural).
The plate looks like a lovely piece of engineering.
Not too clever that the Snorkal is not safe guarding Water as well as dust . How many drivers will drown their 110s & 90s thinking their Snorkal will safe guard - -Not Good
Don’t you just love the reliability of this Land Rover Defender?
Did the winch get wet when you went wadding at the Land-rover recommended height ?
Oh yes !
No disrespect to you chaps, looks like your enjoying the fun of all these issues, but for me it’s 80k’s worth of Junk 🙈
Maybe it needs to sense water?
I do half think I have done something wrong... but pretty sure there is a problem somewhere. If i was on dry land about to cross a river surely i would want to engage wade mode and wade display before entering the river...
I thought Wade Sensing only works when it senses a few cm of water there by shortening the road height you where on the road so the height did not change stick something under the sensor to shorten the road height then it should work
That would make some sense... but we are pretty sure we put it in wade sense before on a normal road before we went into the water ! We will check it out next week !
More LR madness, why anyone would buy one of these is beyond me, but it can be quite entertaining watching all the issues nevertheless.
Why not try hanging a bucket of water off each wing mirror? 🤣
Oh dear....
Could try buckets of water.
you can hire software engineers pretty cheap from "some countries" might I suggest putting one on the payroll and have them ride shotgun 24/7 to keep the Landy going - LOL
You got to be at dealer for weeks to understand how to use this car. Why do anyone want to buy it's complex car for any reason.
Got electronics?
This thing died at birth. Got many good things going for it but then someone decided it would be nice to put 85 microprocessors in to controll everything.🤦
So very true, it's useless because of all the stuff you just don't need has been put on it.
I thought Kenneth Williams was dead.???
Oooooh, stop messing about !
Hold the up button, hold it. It will extend.
I think it can do it itself but need to read up more on that and do a whole video on it when i have worked it all out.
I though you also need to be in low range as well yes?
Bong
I think i was consistent with my second bong being the same as my first.
@@L663 yes good attempt I had a disco 3 that went bong a lot
dont get any of this crap with a 300 tdi i bought it to drive it not to keep fixing it 30 year old and old girl still going well
nextbase are good but the software sucks
new LR defender is just software on wheels
Should have bought a Jeep...
Dump it back at LR and buy a wolf
I dont think my cat would appreciate the wolf
Too much tech for me. But nice car
But you are the guy off Dragon's Den who loves tech !
Will anyone want to buy one second hand think not
I plan on it. Not a first year but say a 21 in 3-5 years. Most of bugs should be worked out.
Not this one anyway 😂