I agree so much on the part about Lou being a good villain in a bad movie. Like why give a character such depth in a backstory and personality just to have him thrown into the wash as a bad ending for him. Lou deserves redemption
personally, i don't think he ever got over his relationship with ox. he managed to push it to the back of his mind when ox left, but when he came back the memories all came flooding back to him, which may have partially been the cause of the mental breakdown that caused him to try and get mandy and moxie killed.
Holy shit, this is good. I’m so frustrated with all the wasted potential in Uglydolls, ESPECIALLY with Lou. And I can’t agree more with Lou deserving a redemption. Honestly, I’d be thrilled if you rewrote the entire movie.
Every single time i see the ending when Lou gets thrown in the Washer, makes me feel so bad for him. And i always think to myself he should've just gotten another chance.
Yeah, like both me and my sister have always felt bad about that, and we saw the movie when it first came out, and I was like seven I think, and both me and my sister thought then and still to this day that he deserved a second chance, and we both think it isn’t fair because there was actually a reason why he is how he is and stuff, and yeah so basically he deserved way better. Basically the point of this video.
OK SO ik im late I RECENTLY JUST GOT BACK INTO THE “FANDOM” BUT I AGREE SO HARD. I WROTE LIKE A WHOLE PARAGRAPH ABT HIS LORE COZ I GENUINELY LOVE HIM SM
I love him so much, I rewatched this movie a long time ago and got so heated bc there was so much injustice on him that I didn't notice the first time I watched it 😭😭😭 they did lou dirty fr
@@DulyDownward NAW COZ FR. Like theres no goddamn way they thought “lets make them not forgive him!” THINKING PPL WILL BE OKAY W IT. They know what they did,,
pretty good video. I never really cared for his character and was honestly confused by the prototype thing. but you made a good point about how he was practically stuck in purgatory and everybody was leaving him. you were right. he did deserve a second chance.
Was so mad that he didn’t get redeemed. Of course they had to punish him because kids movie lol lol. There could’ve been more major storyline things they could’ve done but it’s whatever.
HONESTLY!! I feel like if they do a sequel or one of those netflix spinoff shows - which they probably won't because of the movie's reception - they should definitely get more into Lou's character. Like if there was a sequel I wouldn't want it to be presenting a new challenge for the main characters to be facing so to speak, I'd rather have it be about them feeling bad about what they'd done to Lou and trying to understand him better. Tbh I could see Ox probably being the one to initiate that considering their history together. Obviously we're never gonna get that, though, but it's fun to pretend
@@DulyDownward On the topic of that I’m actually working on a story that involves some of the Uglydolls from the movie. Except I’m trying to make their character’s better. It’s a big crossover story wrapped around a group of original characters.
I like the analysis here, and agree with what you were saying. Really such a waste of a character here. Great video 👌 (on another note, I like your headcanon a lot)
I completely agree with this video! I personally think that the creators should have done a better job of his backstory! I’ve watched the movie and we don’t get much stuff about Lou’s background except when he has a total emotional breakdown (poor Lou 😭).
Yes! True! Not only is Moxy a self absorbed brat but she also refused to listen to anyone. Sure, Lou did some wrongs to her, but Moxy HAD OTHER OPTIONS THAN TO FORCE HER FRIENDS IN A PIPE! Lou would have been killed if it wasn't for Nolan. Moxy is such a hypocrite, accepting others for who they were, then lets Lou die in a ditch (metaphorically) who is suffering from a mental breakdown!
if they somehow added more details to his backstory and gave Lou a second chance it could help little kids realize that even bad guys like him aren’t originally bad and that they have a backstory or a reason why they turned out that way(it could teach kids to be open minded and show some grace even when someone’s treated them badly instead of having to act in a rebellious way)
YES YES you make some awesome points here!! I like to think that initally he was going to sabtoge the Ugly Dolls like he does usually but he's just so fucking hopeless and...yeah. I think when he was held by the baby, despite knowing *how* to win, he physically couldn't show it because it made him so damn uncomfortable when he hasn't had any affection from anybody since Ox (not from ppl he truly knows, since ppl fangirling and fanboying only does so much) and the fact he subconciously just..knows it's not real anyways so why bother? Also I think when he was going out of the house, I think his intention was to stand outside before the finish line so it would look like he won without showing that he lost until everybody left or something? Idk
Also I forgot to mention but while I understand you not liking Ox super well for leaving Lou, Lou was also the one to get the pretty dolls to start bullying him [granted, probably to make Ox stay with him, under the guise of "if other dolls are judging you here, imagine how humans are going to judge you] and he was also the one to lead him to recycling. Granted he didn't exactly push him in or anything but...still, and I think Lou was planning to kill him through this, considering that he says he should have made sure he was actually recycled, probably was a "fine you wanna leave so bad?? There you go!!" typa thing but still. Even with his sympathetic reasoning, I understand why Ox didn't want to come back to him. I think it would have been sweet if Ox was the one to speak up in the ending and suggest a lighter punishment, shows that while he doesn't fully forgive him, he's willing to at least not let him die yknow?
I watched the movie today and I got just as pissed of as the last time i watched it his ending is just terrible honestly like I have so much on my mind after watching this but all I can say is "yes I agree" also I loove you're design for lou and the story behind it is way better than just "he is just perfect at everything"
I remember the company that the uglydolls movie was planning a sequel and a tv series then someone on TH-cam uploaded whole movie online while still in theaters and the video referenced that. Then those plans dissappeared and airing when Endgame didn't help either.
@@beautychao7 to properly flesh him out more as a character, I remember I made an OC for ugly dolls if you wanna hear about it (no not for shipping and for more story building
@Virtual_Eclipse That's cool and I would love to hear about your oc. Maybe if the fandom makes memes a really good art that night get some attention then maybe Uglydolls could return.
@@beautychao7 maybe lol. Okay so my OC is called Mallory, that's the name they chose for themselves, but they're real name is John doe (meaning unknown I believe) they're a prototype but not like Lou. They're made for the soul purpose on what Not to be. Ugly. Big nose, spots on they're face, dyed hair (unnatural hair colour) weird eyes, wonky/ sharp teeth and a punk like style. Dolls need to be proper and neat. So don't be like Mallory They too can't go to the big world but have accepted that. But still unsatisfied with their life. They feel disgusted in their own skin since they're the embodiment on what ugly is. So when Ox came around it felt like they finally have someone to understand him and maybe change Lou to like Mallory better. But of course ox desired the big world. That really upset them so they helped Lou send ox away, as a final realization on that his purpose will forever be Ugly. And example. Now in the film they would be in the middle ground. Not liking Lou treating the ugly dolls since it's how he treats Mallory but at the same time it's the fear of what Ox did and the fear of the unknown about them
Holy cow Lou deserves better I agree with this video When I was like 7 I thought like Oh hot boi. I still kind of think that But yeah he deserves better than getting his guts ripped out of his umm plastic skin Who ever said that was insane in the brain
I definitely agree! I think Pitbull did great, I just think it's funny that he of all people voiced a character in a kid's movie. He's just one of those celebrities that I wouldn't expect to see in a kid's movie. But I do think that he did a great job and that Uglydog was the perfect character for him to be cast as.
Big w i hate moxy too and i love lou and he deserved better. i wish it wasnt a kids movie so lou would get the ending he deserved, honsetly its a trash movie but i only liked lou and lucky bat there
I would love to! I was actually planning to do something sort of similar with Jimmy Crystal from Sing 2 (not _exactly_ a villain defense, more or less comparing him to Johnny's dad.)
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No, I'm not 15. What would be the problem if I was, though? Also, I don't remember if I was 12-- I think 12 may have been way off, but I was just sort of guessing.
They don't see it as an actual baby, it's meant to simulate an actual baby. I'd kick it if it was throttling me like that, I feel like most people would out of pure instinct. Hell I'm pretty sure Lou only did it out of pure instinct.
Idk there’s a difference between a actual baby and a robot baby that’s like 8 times your size Also I thought the way he kicked it was more of a accident cause he really was just struggling to get the baby to let him go In real life yeah kicking a baby is dead set messed up
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I agree so much on the part about Lou being a good villain in a bad movie. Like why give a character such depth in a backstory and personality just to have him thrown into the wash as a bad ending for him. Lou deserves redemption
Lou genuinely liked Ox. He seemed to treat him VERY differently from the other Uglydolls
personally, i don't think he ever got over his relationship with ox. he managed to push it to the back of his mind when ox left, but when he came back the memories all came flooding back to him, which may have partially been the cause of the mental breakdown that caused him to try and get mandy and moxie killed.
Lou said to ox : "because you would have left"
That explains a lot
Ngl you made solid points.
It’s not just about Lou’s weird fangirling magnet ability, it’s more about his actual character and story itself.
I'm so happy that I'm not the only one that's so passionate about Lou and his story. Even if it was a while ago
Holy shit, this is good.
I’m so frustrated with all the wasted potential in Uglydolls, ESPECIALLY with Lou. And I can’t agree more with Lou deserving a redemption. Honestly, I’d be thrilled if you rewrote the entire movie.
i just might, now that you suggested it!
Every single time i see the ending when Lou gets thrown in the Washer, makes me feel so bad for him. And i always think to myself he should've just gotten another chance.
there are other kids show/movie villains that do SO much worse but they get forgiven, its messed up
@@DulyDownward Yeah i agree, some cartoons are messed up to me.
Yeah, like both me and my sister have always felt bad about that, and we saw the movie when it first came out, and I was like seven I think, and both me and my sister thought then and still to this day that he deserved a second chance, and we both think it isn’t fair because there was actually a reason why he is how he is and stuff, and yeah so basically he deserved way better. Basically the point of this video.
OK SO ik im late I RECENTLY JUST GOT BACK INTO THE “FANDOM” BUT I AGREE SO HARD. I WROTE LIKE A WHOLE PARAGRAPH ABT HIS LORE COZ I GENUINELY LOVE HIM SM
I love him so much, I rewatched this movie a long time ago and got so heated bc there was so much injustice on him that I didn't notice the first time I watched it 😭😭😭 they did lou dirty fr
@@DulyDownward NAW COZ FR. Like theres no goddamn way they thought “lets make them not forgive him!” THINKING PPL WILL BE OKAY W IT. They know what they did,,
@@ehhto23FR THEY KNEW HE WOULD BE LIKE EVERYONE’S FAVORITE CHARACTER SO THEY DID THAT TO US ON PURPOSE PROBABLY BCZ THEY WANT TO MAKE US UPSET ABT IT
pretty good video. I never really cared for his character and was honestly confused by the prototype thing. but you made a good point about how he was practically stuck in purgatory and everybody was leaving him. you were right. he did deserve a second chance.
I wish they make wider merchandise of Lou, Mandy and The Spy Girls
Was so mad that he didn’t get redeemed. Of course they had to punish him because kids movie lol lol. There could’ve been more major storyline things they could’ve done but it’s whatever.
HONESTLY!! I feel like if they do a sequel or one of those netflix spinoff shows - which they probably won't because of the movie's reception - they should definitely get more into Lou's character. Like if there was a sequel I wouldn't want it to be presenting a new challenge for the main characters to be facing so to speak, I'd rather have it be about them feeling bad about what they'd done to Lou and trying to understand him better. Tbh I could see Ox probably being the one to initiate that considering their history together.
Obviously we're never gonna get that, though, but it's fun to pretend
@@DulyDownward On the topic of that I’m actually working on a story that involves some of the Uglydolls from the movie. Except I’m trying to make their character’s better. It’s a big crossover story wrapped around a group of original characters.
I was rly mad he didnt end up with a redemption arc bc his backstory made his actions like so understandable
I don’t really think Ox was selfish at all, he just didn’t want the other rejects to get recycled or go through the pain that he did
I like the analysis here, and agree with what you were saying. Really such a waste of a character here. Great video 👌 (on another note, I like your headcanon a lot)
I completely agree with this video! I personally think that the creators should have done a better job of his backstory! I’ve watched the movie and we don’t get much stuff about Lou’s background except when he has a total emotional breakdown (poor Lou 😭).
Yes! True! Not only is Moxy a self absorbed brat but she also refused to listen to anyone. Sure, Lou did some wrongs to her, but Moxy HAD OTHER OPTIONS THAN TO FORCE HER FRIENDS IN A PIPE! Lou would have been killed if it wasn't for Nolan. Moxy is such a hypocrite, accepting others for who they were, then lets Lou die in a ditch (metaphorically) who is suffering from a mental breakdown!
Completely agree! The film’s creators need to find new storytellers who can write better other characters! Lou was a great character!
@@storytellerprincess4682 Yes!
@@feistybearproductions6478 see u two get it
@@storytellerprincess4682 Lou should have been scolded for his actions, not assaulted and humiliated in my opinion
if they somehow added more details to his backstory and gave Lou a second chance it could help little kids realize that even bad guys like him aren’t originally bad and that they have a backstory or a reason why they turned out that way(it could teach kids to be open minded and show some grace even when someone’s treated them badly instead of having to act in a rebellious way)
I was in the ugly dolls fandom as a kid and tbh I’ve always thought it was disappointing how they didn’t put much effort in the moral or story
I first saw the movie when I was like 7 and 7 year old me would’ve agreed with this video and this comment too.
YES YES you make some awesome points here!! I like to think that initally he was going to sabtoge the Ugly Dolls like he does usually but he's just so fucking hopeless and...yeah. I think when he was held by the baby, despite knowing *how* to win, he physically couldn't show it because it made him so damn uncomfortable when he hasn't had any affection from anybody since Ox (not from ppl he truly knows, since ppl fangirling and fanboying only does so much) and the fact he subconciously just..knows it's not real anyways so why bother? Also I think when he was going out of the house, I think his intention was to stand outside before the finish line so it would look like he won without showing that he lost until everybody left or something? Idk
Also I forgot to mention but while I understand you not liking Ox super well for leaving Lou, Lou was also the one to get the pretty dolls to start bullying him [granted, probably to make Ox stay with him, under the guise of "if other dolls are judging you here, imagine how humans are going to judge you] and he was also the one to lead him to recycling. Granted he didn't exactly push him in or anything but...still, and I think Lou was planning to kill him through this, considering that he says he should have made sure he was actually recycled, probably was a "fine you wanna leave so bad?? There you go!!" typa thing but still. Even with his sympathetic reasoning, I understand why Ox didn't want to come back to him. I think it would have been sweet if Ox was the one to speak up in the ending and suggest a lighter punishment, shows that while he doesn't fully forgive him, he's willing to at least not let him die yknow?
I’m starting to realise how concerning these dolls are like trying to kill each other 😐
Survival of the fittest.
*What if Uglydolls 2019 takes place in the same universe as Poppy Playtime.*
I like her lou drawing the one with the hair covering his eye
I'm glad the movie exists for the songs and for Lou
those reasons and them only
I agree bc he my favourite and he deserves more
I watched the movie today and I got just as pissed of as the last time i watched it his ending is just terrible honestly like I have so much on my mind after watching this but all I can say is "yes I agree"
also I loove you're design for lou and the story behind it is way better than just "he is just perfect at everything"
I remember the company that the uglydolls movie was planning a sequel and a tv series then someone on TH-cam uploaded whole movie online while still in theaters and the video referenced that.
Then those plans dissappeared and airing when Endgame didn't help either.
Bro. I would’ve loved to see more Lou. 😭
@Virtual_Eclipse Yeah get more of his backstory would be cool.
@@beautychao7 to properly flesh him out more as a character, I remember I made an OC for ugly dolls if you wanna hear about it (no not for shipping and for more story building
@Virtual_Eclipse That's cool and I would love to hear about your oc.
Maybe if the fandom makes memes a really good art that night get some attention then maybe Uglydolls could return.
@@beautychao7 maybe lol. Okay so my OC is called Mallory, that's the name they chose for themselves, but they're real name is John doe (meaning unknown I believe) they're a prototype but not like Lou. They're made for the soul purpose on what Not to be. Ugly. Big nose, spots on they're face, dyed hair (unnatural hair colour) weird eyes, wonky/ sharp teeth and a punk like style. Dolls need to be proper and neat. So don't be like Mallory
They too can't go to the big world but have accepted that. But still unsatisfied with their life. They feel disgusted in their own skin since they're the embodiment on what ugly is. So when Ox came around it felt like they finally have someone to understand him and maybe change Lou to like Mallory better. But of course ox desired the big world. That really upset them so they helped Lou send ox away, as a final realization on that his purpose will forever be Ugly. And example. Now in the film they would be in the middle ground. Not liking Lou treating the ugly dolls since it's how he treats Mallory but at the same time it's the fear of what Ox did and the fear of the unknown about them
Lou deserved better.
Holy cow Lou deserves better I agree with this video
When I was like 7 I thought like
Oh hot boi.
I still kind of think that
But yeah he deserves better than getting his guts ripped out of his umm plastic skin
Who ever said that was insane in the brain
8:20 ox left for 12 years.
31:11 It’s me I’m girlfriend
Also, there is not going to be a sequel since the film got poor reviews
I'm starting to see parallels with Bloo from FHFIF...
is that why Uglydolls returned on the exact same day Foster's ended ten years ago?
NGL- THATS TRUE
I agree with your points on Lou but I'm gonna be honest Pitbull did pretty good as Uglydog voice-acting-wise
I definitely agree! I think Pitbull did great, I just think it's funny that he of all people voiced a character in a kid's movie. He's just one of those celebrities that I wouldn't expect to see in a kid's movie. But I do think that he did a great job and that Uglydog was the perfect character for him to be cast as.
How come the spy girls got no punishment? They helped Lou commit murder and kidnaped Mandy and Moxy
Big w i hate moxy too and i love lou and he deserved better. i wish it wasnt a kids movie so lou would get the ending he deserved, honsetly its a trash movie but i only liked lou and lucky bat there
Are you doing ok? I haven't heard from you for a while
I agree with you ! Lou deserves a second chance 😢😊
Ok, looking back I don't hate Moxy completely, she was just really selfish and needlessly cruel to Lou at the end of the film.
yeah i don't hate her i just think she's. a huge idiot
@@DulyDownward Same
Can you do other villain defenses?
I would love to! I was actually planning to do something sort of similar with Jimmy Crystal from Sing 2 (not _exactly_ a villain defense, more or less comparing him to Johnny's dad.)
@@DulyDownward I was actually thinking you could do one of Rameses and Moses's relationship from The Prince of Egypt.
@@feistybearproductions6478 I've never seen that one. Once I have the script for the Sing 2 one wrapped up, I'll be sure to check it out!
@@DulyDownward The Prince of Egypt is a great film! Really, you will like it!
I’m 20 years old and I think Lou from ugly dolls is hot
Lou is 19/20 years old
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i agreed with you ✋
If I was grabbed by that weird robo baby, I would have kicked it as well 😂
LITERALLY THO
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No matter how you draw his tie see his tie in the movie pictures or fan art…
IT LOOKS LIKE AN EGG IT LOOKS LIKE. AN. EGG.
i will never unsee this and its all ur fault lmao
Egg.
u sound like kooleen i love it
whos kooleen
@@DulyDownward an artist TH-camr
Hold up u were 12? So ur saying ur 15 now? Wtf?!
No, I'm not 15. What would be the problem if I was, though? Also, I don't remember if I was 12-- I think 12 may have been way off, but I was just sort of guessing.
@@DulyDownward idk what to take from that.
@@fraternoe2771 what? what do you mean?? what is there to take from it other than 'i don't remember how old i was'
Dude, in their world that robo-baby is considered an actual baby, So, you saying you would kick it is pretty messed up.
They don't see it as an actual baby, it's meant to simulate an actual baby. I'd kick it if it was throttling me like that, I feel like most people would out of pure instinct. Hell I'm pretty sure Lou only did it out of pure instinct.
Idk there’s a difference between a actual baby and a robot baby that’s like 8 times your size
Also I thought the way he kicked it was more of a accident cause he really was just struggling to get the baby to let him go
In real life yeah kicking a baby is dead set messed up
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As a DID fictive of Lou thank you 😭
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