To keep the Dr. OctoRex from responding to midi notes you don't want it to see, put the instrument inside a Combinator and put the player device on the combinator. Then use the key mapping in the Combinator's programmer to filter out the midi notes you don't want the device inside to see. I believe this will do what you want. Have fun!
@@matthewstuartnz If you want to constrain the notes to a scale, you put a Scales & Chords after the Pattern Mutator just like you showed. It doesn't round to a "logical" scale degree since Players work on any MIDI input and they can't know what the original key you played in was and thus what would be "logical". In your case it was C Minor, but it could've been any other key-or no key at all! Imagine if you recorded in C Major originally, added Scales & Chords and set it to C Minor. Now rounding down would be "right". For it to be smart, you'd have to still know music theory since you'd have to define which key you played in before it starts transposing. Otherwise it'd still occasionally make the "wrong" call as music theory and keys can weirdly be subjective (D Dorian and C Major have the same notes, for example). Hope that makes sense! :) Of course you can also put a Scales & Chords before to constrain your input to a certain key, but then you can still add "off key" notes when the Oct/Pitch knob is in the blue area. Also, if you only want to use the "notes that work" with something, you can record ALL of those to your pattern and then only use Swap and Density, not Pitch/Oct. Both of those only re-arrange the notes in the pattern, never adding new notes that could be "bad".
it would spit out the A natural if you're in the key of C major, where as in C minor it would switch to the A#/Bb whatever you wanna call it, it's enharmonic, so Scales and Chords is actually doing it's job, they're just random notes.
Ah, ok, I posted some minutes ago in the follow-up video.... when I see the videos in the right order everything makes suddenly much more sense. :) So sorry, I posted something, which you already tried. IMHO that's not the failure of scaler, more a failure of Scales&Chords. And I also would say, that it isn't wrong, it's just so, that Scales&Chords matches to the "best matching note of that chord in that scale". So I could argue it the "fault" of your pattern. :) No. But indeed you point here to something, which is a weakness in this kind of setup. Because u need to change the scales according to the chords (by some not so simple automation). I can also recommend to use the evolution sequencer-plugin by Lectric Panda, because it knows about ranges. It took me a while to figure out how to use it, but this is really great for this kind of "I want to have random patterns played"-need. Also, if you want to limit the range of what P.M. plays you can use other players. Like UTL Filter & Adjust (also Lectric Panda), or Note Limiter from Tonicmint. If you want to see what note P.M. plays I can recommend Note Monitor (Tonic Mint) or Seligs Note View Plugin.
Just because you don’t know how to use the program doesn’t mean Team Reason don’t know music theory. You need to learn software and understand what it’s meant to do. Reason by far ahead of the pack. Other DAW records audio better and others master better but Music creation you just can’t beat Reason
I do understand what it's meant to do. I just don't think it does enough. But I hear your point and generally agree. Reason has some awesome tools for music creation!
@@matthewstuartnz Yes, very diffrent but same concept. i love how quick and standalone the live can be. i make beats everywhere and anytime. my 1tb ssd is loaded with splice sounds that are directly connected to the mpc. it has wifi and blue tooth capabilities. i loved it as soon as i got it, i traded a mac book pro 15in 2018 for it and havent looked back.
your mic is tiny. sounds good. I must get one. what is it? Reason studios really don't address non VST issues anymore. There are better scalers out there. Reasons players are designed for rap beat makers. They don't care about music theory.
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To keep the Dr. OctoRex from responding to midi notes you don't want it to see, put the instrument inside a Combinator and put the player device on the combinator. Then use the key mapping in the Combinator's programmer to filter out the midi notes you don't want the device inside to see.
I believe this will do what you want. Have fun!
Thanks for the suggestion! I tried using a combinator but think I had both devices inside. I’ll give this a go! 🙏🏻
Use a combinator to restrict the note range on the dr.octorex
I believe you'll need to place your Scales & Chords Player above/before your Pattern Mutator. It worked for me.
Really?? I’ll give it a go!
I just tried it. It didn’t work. I think cause the pattern had already been recorded into the pattern mutator.
@@matthewstuartnz If you want to constrain the notes to a scale, you put a Scales & Chords after the Pattern Mutator just like you showed. It doesn't round to a "logical" scale degree since Players work on any MIDI input and they can't know what the original key you played in was and thus what would be "logical".
In your case it was C Minor, but it could've been any other key-or no key at all! Imagine if you recorded in C Major originally, added Scales & Chords and set it to C Minor. Now rounding down would be "right". For it to be smart, you'd have to still know music theory since you'd have to define which key you played in before it starts transposing. Otherwise it'd still occasionally make the "wrong" call as music theory and keys can weirdly be subjective (D Dorian and C Major have the same notes, for example). Hope that makes sense! :)
Of course you can also put a Scales & Chords before to constrain your input to a certain key, but then you can still add "off key" notes when the Oct/Pitch knob is in the blue area.
Also, if you only want to use the "notes that work" with something, you can record ALL of those to your pattern and then only use Swap and Density, not Pitch/Oct. Both of those only re-arrange the notes in the pattern, never adding new notes that could be "bad".
Great suggestions! Thanks!
it would spit out the A natural if you're in the key of C major, where as in C minor it would switch to the A#/Bb whatever you wanna call it, it's enharmonic, so Scales and Chords is actually doing it's job, they're just random notes.
They are enharmonic, but they are different scale degrees. Keeping consistent scale degrees of what matters when your transposing a riff.
whats the good reason behind not letting me attach all parameters to midi controllers?
In my opinion, there's never a good reason. But there might be something happening in the code that makes it impractical 🤷🏼♂️
Ah, ok, I posted some minutes ago in the follow-up video.... when I see the videos in the right order everything makes suddenly much more sense. :) So sorry, I posted something, which you already tried.
IMHO that's not the failure of scaler, more a failure of Scales&Chords. And I also would say, that it isn't wrong, it's just so, that Scales&Chords matches to the "best matching note of that chord in that scale". So I could argue it the "fault" of your pattern. :) No. But indeed you point here to something, which is a weakness in this kind of setup. Because u need to change the scales according to the chords (by some not so simple automation).
I can also recommend to use the evolution sequencer-plugin by Lectric Panda, because it knows about ranges. It took me a while to figure out how to use it, but this is really great for this kind of "I want to have random patterns played"-need.
Also, if you want to limit the range of what P.M. plays you can use other players. Like UTL Filter & Adjust (also Lectric Panda), or Note Limiter from Tonicmint.
If you want to see what note P.M. plays I can recommend Note Monitor (Tonic Mint) or Seligs Note View Plugin.
Thanks for the recommendations!
Put Rex player in combinator and put mutator on it. Set combinator not to receive below the range
Someone else suggested that too! Thanks, I’m going to give it a go! 🙏🏻
honestly to build a daw and the stock tools you have to know music theory. music theory is not one way 👍🏿
There are aspects of music theory that are one way. But yea, I know what you mean.
cool video dave.
Thanks for checking it out! 🙏🏻
Just because you don’t know how to use the program doesn’t mean Team Reason don’t know music theory. You need to learn software and understand what it’s meant to do. Reason by far ahead of the pack. Other DAW records audio better and others master better but Music creation you just can’t beat Reason
I do understand what it's meant to do. I just don't think it does enough. But I hear your point and generally agree. Reason has some awesome tools for music creation!
Try Riffer vst by Audiomodern.
Thanks! Will check it out! 🙏🏻
Riffer’s brilliant, I use it on my iPad all the time.
Is it just for iPad or can you just use it on there as well?
@@matthewstuartnz It’s all platforms dude. Well worth a look 👍
Just thought, you’re in the future so happy 2021 ✌️
Get an mpc live 2 and call it a day. Reason is losing its grip. its good but behind times.
I haven't tried the MPC Live but I've heard good things about it. I have a Maschine. Is it much different to that?
@@matthewstuartnz Yes, very diffrent but same concept. i love how quick and standalone the live can be. i make beats everywhere and anytime. my 1tb ssd is loaded with splice sounds that are directly connected to the mpc. it has wifi and blue tooth capabilities. i loved it as soon as i got it, i traded a mac book pro 15in 2018 for it and havent looked back.
Oh wow the portability sounds dope! I love how stand-alone the maschine is but I still need my laptop. Definitely want to try the MPC one day
Gotta get my cheese up and then headed that way because reason dont give free upgrades. Nice daw but that MPC Live2 seems to be the future.
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your mic is tiny. sounds good. I must get one. what is it?
Reason studios really don't address non VST issues anymore. There are better scalers out there. Reasons players are designed for rap beat makers. They don't care about music theory.
That’s a sure SM57 but I wasn’t actually using it in this video. I was recording externally on a Zoom H6. You have any recommendations for scalers?
Scaler.
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