Granular Synthesis with Grain Sample Manipulator
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The Grain synthesizer opens up the world of granular synthesis for your creative use. Drop any sample into Grain and explore the endless sonic variations you can create with Grain’s selection of playback algorithms, ultra-flexible modulation, routing and effects. With immense sonic power and an inviting interface, Grain is the easy-to-use sonic lab that turns your samples into grains and your grains into music.
In this walk-through we'll introduce you to the concepts of Grain's graintastical granular workflow.
This and the Europa video are absolutely superb. Well done to the entire production team for these...
I need! coming from ableton live 10 (suite) this is amazing attidute by propellerhead
Facts.
4 years later...they still are : )
The next $139 PH synthesizer? Nope... FREE with upgrade. Thank you for releasing this beast in Reason 10!
THE ABSOLUTE BEST & INCREDIBLY INSPIRING GRAINTASTIC SYNTH EVER!!!!! THANK YOU PROPELLERHEAD!!!
They should have combined Europa and Grain into a true powerhouse Sampler synth. Then, actually LISTEN to their customers requests and added any 1 of the following requests we've been asking for, some for over 10 years!
This is a list of ALL the feature requests us LOYAL Reason Users have been asking you to implement, some for over 10 years...
1. ReCycle should've been implemented in V8 at least. Also needs updated as it is virtually outdated.
2. Vector Graphics/Scalable to custom preference
3. Ghost tracks for instruments & VSTs
4. Lower DSP use in all areas especially VSTs
5. Drawable automation curves
6. Realtime edit/Copy & Paste while song plays
7. Timeline flags/ bookmarks
8. MIDI note follow/chase
9. Combinator updates
10. NNXT updates
11. Subtractor updates
12. VST bugs/glitches/ freeze issues Don't say it's not a problem because for many it is
13. Midi clip browse/ preview
14. Group & adjust multiple faders at same time
15. Better track freeze abilities
16. Session View like feature
17. Mute individual midi notes(kick,snare,hats)
18. Update GUI resolution/ 4K compatible
19. Non destructive cross fade capability
20. Tab to transient
21. Ability to save custom settings for comp/ eqs
22. Better stock Brass and Strings (instead of 3Gb of more drums n loops we already have)
23. Video support - I know, I know, but it would be awesome.
24. Sequencer feature /workflow overhaul
25. Mixer feature /workflow overhaul / Neve ?
26. Rack feature/ workflow overhaul.
27. Multitimbral support for VSTs to add more than 1 channel per plugin
28. MP3 exporting.
29. Collapsible channels behind the group buses
30. Parameter on the LF & HS EQs in main mixer
31. Add at least 2 additional EQ bands to mixer
32. DragNDrop clips from seq to devices in rack
33. Trigger blocks with midi controller
34. VST3 support/ after you fix current VST bugs
35. Ability to send midi clock to multiple outputs
36. Ability to delete any unwanted stock sound or sample
37. Select default track/midi clip colors
38. Ability to size & move Rack/Seq/mixer & VSTs windows anywhere and everywhere at will, with ease.
39. Better multi core performance for max CPU optimization
40. NNXT automatable parameters
41. Expandable/collapsible track groups.
42. Browser overhaul / performance boost
43. Add a new Compressor & EQ to stock effects.
If you are truly LISTENING to your customers, please start showing us by adding these features. V10 is NOT a RELEASE, it is a CONTENT UPGRADE. We want workflow improvements please. Please. Please. Please. Please.
@@Nicholas_PA did they bring some of these in with the latest version?
Angus Reid I am currently on version 10, waiting for 12...maybe. But I do know they have added a few updates on the list as well as a few that weren’t on it. IMO I don’t see $129 being justified for an update yet. 7 to 10 was worth it for me and I’m hoping Reason will come through again in V12.
Proud Reason user since 2.0
Since 3.0 here :) Love the guys at PH.
4.0
5.0 lol
I am 1.0 OG - LOL
since 1.0
This is the device that made me upgrade from 9. I was frankly skeptical about 10 with all the simple 3rd party stuff like Klang/Humana & Pangea and promoting loads of new loops - I was thinking yeah but this is 130 EUR. Europa seemed like Propellerhead's version of Expanse (which I had) so I was thinking 10 overall wasn't worth it for me. Then I heard Mattias play the Grain patch Vergon 6 at the end of the live Europa stream and it's source sample. That was the moment I was blown away. When I eventually got back to Earth I watched the Grain preview and joined the 10 beta and it blew me away again. I only just arrived back this morning from outer space and had to buy the 10 upgrade straight away. Coming from the old Amiga tracker scene I've always been a big sampling fan and being able to manipulate samples in Grain's unthinkably cool ways I couldn't have imagined 20+ years ago is awesome. So for me, it's 10's killer device. To be fair, Europa is an incredible synth, but Grain is a new dimension in sampling.
I almost think Grain could have been a 130 EUR VST or rack device...if you divide out the cost of Reason 10, Grain represents like 30 EUR.
Heheheh, so I am not the only "Tracker" who instantly fell in love with this synth. It instantly reminded me of Trackers too, and even though I wasn't any good back then, it is still my favourite way of creating music.
Same here. The grain device alone makes reason worth it. Just upgraded yesterday and spent almost all night playing with it. Seriously have not felt that inspired since I first started making music.
I also was blown away with the patch that appeared in the end of that live stream. But I already have a granular synthesis (Omnisphere 2), so I wanted so bad this patch that I just recreated it.
I have a previous Reason version so I got the soundsource used in the stream, then I copy and tweak every little parameter of Omnisphere until I got it, and VIOLÁ, I just have almost exactly the same amazing sound that Grain has in Omnisphere 2.
After all this I realized that I don't need Grain to achieve sounds like these, but I must admit that Granular has this Reason-friendly design I fell in love 6 years ago and looks very easy to use, so Grain still looking very interesting for me.
This is the plugin I've been most excited about.
I think Ableton has been reading the comments that Reason users have been writing. AL10 seriously just added 5 or 6 of the feature requests the Reason community has been begging for, some for almost a decade. And AL did it in 1 release. I know they don't have the Grain & 1,000,000 of the same drum sample pitched up and down to sound slightly different or the more appealing look that Reason has, but they knocked Reason out of the park on a head to head with the Ableton version of Release 10. THAT IS AN UPGRADE!!
Reason is still 100x better than Ableton
Propellerhead are making some serious synths 👌🌟
Propellerhead knock it out the park with this upgrade at first I didn't think much of it now that I upgraded this DAW is just getting better and better
This Grain is a true beast of its kind. I don't even know where to start on that baby THANKS :)
I haven't updated reason since 2012, but now I just have to get reason 10. This update is absolutely insane. I've been getting into this ambient/idm thing and these new toys are just great in that!
I love how detailed you can shape your sound. Wish there would be a vst version of this.
Damn this is totally a game changer...808 will never be the same
I've been SLEEPING on Grain. This is DOPE!
I am looking forward to getting home and using this now. Really good knowledge sharing. Especially looking forward to bringing in some vocal samples to use. Let's see where this leads me.
One of the best synths I’ve ever used
i wish this could be a plugin on its own (vst, au, lv) for non reason users!
Omnisphere 2.
Well now all of reason is a VST(3)... but then you'd have to be a Reason user still ;-)
I want this thing soooooo baaaaaaaaad!!!! This is what I have been waiting for! This is how I want to make music. Too bad my laptop sucks...
Thank you, really like your tutorials. Well spoken and easy to follow
This video alone has made me want to buy reason
Please make more educational videos! I love using reason, but half of the time it's just fiddling around with the knobs trying to figure out what they do exactly (not that it's a bad thing!)
This is transcending the game 👌🏽 thank you propellerhead
A powerful grainular synth without a cavalcade of confusing controls? Sign me up
Love these educational videos!
Proud user since 1.0, i must buy this update after x mas, big package, this one
the drums sounds you can come with alone will be legend and unique to each user. this is an extremely impressive synth.
this is coming from someone who was hoping for track folders, freezing, better DSP usage, markers, GUI zoom......guess that will be v11. Already forked over the $129 upgrade fee. you can't beat the machine.
i have my fingers crossed for some of that stuff to show up in the 10.5 update
I've seen people use blocks as markers. But I completely agree with sadness about lack of GUI update. Ehhhh... Retina.
@Photoindra-
They (Propellerdeads) would rather take our money by giving things we didn't ask for, instead of implementing the features we've been requesting for years.
Nick Pa Jesus you have nothing better to do than spam your delusional crusade here do you? Give it a rest already.
@Hypnoz123
I see you comment on Reason videos as well. I've come to the conclusion you either work for PH or Reason Talk .com. (All you do is Praise them like they are perfect in all areas).
It's called voicing OUR opinions. If we don't let PH know what we want for OUR $$, then how will they know what to implement and improve?
I'm speaking out for ALL of Us LOYAL Users who have been asking for features, paying PH's bills and in return get 1 or 2 of the features out of almost 50.
My voice comes from Truth. You are just an angry undercover Troll trying to defend a defenseless company that chooses to make EXCUSES instead of PROGRESS.
Go Troll someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
All those possibilities with the new synths in Reason 10!!
This and Parsec are realy my favorit module inside Reason studio. So much possibility, i hope the new sampler rack could benefit of this to create acoustic modeling instruments.
If you like Grain and Parsec I think you'll LOVE the new sampler. /ryan
Props have really stepped up their game; it looks like they're getting my money yet again.
My favorite plugin
AMAZING SYNTH!
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED
Fantastic. Great explaining. Thanks.
great inspiring device. thanks propellerhead
I love Reason!
next level
I really feel like you could do a whole series of videos on Grain.
Would love some "Advanced Sound Design" videos about Grain (and Europa).
Drawing in curves between points in the envelopes? Can we get curves in automation lanes??
nope, that would make far too much sense and be too intuitive
-Ernst Nathorst-Böös CEO
I was hoping for that also - you can add delays to the envelopes (at least with Europa) but it's not quite the same. Hoping this gets added in an update
Here we go!
10:52 Wow!
just updated so awesome =)
great video that answered many questions for me.
you guys at propellerhead are way too crazy. always adding envelopes. you should call yourself envelopehead. blowing my mind regularly.
Not a user but damn this looks good
I highly suggest 10! Reason used to be just midi, then they added the ability to record audio, then they added VSTs and now this. Now that Reason supports VST there is no downside. On a side note, the pitch correction in Reason sounds great. I think it sounds better than Melodyne which I believe goes for around $300. It's more than worth the price and in my opinion with this update, its a steal!
No time like the present, my friend :) I work with Logic, Abelton, and FL studios, but I always seem to come back home to Reason. It's workflow is very "creative-friendly", unlike some of the other DAWs out there. And now with it's VST support, it's just as versitile. I'd HIGHLY recommend it.
Very good device. Makes me *almost* want to upgrade from version 9.5. I might wait until version 11.
any number of free VST graintable synths can do the same as this one do not be duped by the fancy interface and sleek design
Thanks, this is so brilliant!
I know I said I'd probably hold out and this would more than likely be the first time I didn't update my Reason, But I been playing with it and I think I will have to break down and make that purchase Once Again! Propellerheads has Always been pretty fair in what they give u for the money! It's definitely not (FL) Buy Once, and Have it for Life! I guess I can appreciate that too....Ive Been With Reason since 1.0 and Rebirth! So... yeah...Dope! The ONLY thing that seems kinda messed up is.....for the One's who already purchased the RE such as synchronoss radical piano and even Klang... I know they were giving out synchronous at one point for a limited time and I missed it because I never checked the web. Kinda sux that it's always the dedicated user who's been there supporting em since 1.0 usually gets the shity end of the stick. I'm thankful I didn't purchase any the extras so it doesn't really apply to me... I'm sad I missed out on a free offer but upgrading to 10 will get me all back... it almost makes a person afraid to buy any other rack extensions because future updates might include those as well especially those bigger packages that have quite a few. They need another plan for sure. IMO
Reason ...these are the most Ridiculous Sound Designing Devices Ever Constructed Into One Software.💪👑Let's Get That Sequencer a Lil More Creative Also.
I never knew I wanted this!
Very long video.. so detailed. It worth 😁😁😁
I know, right? The average running time of a sitcom without commercials is 22 minutes but this video runs over 12 minutes. I thought I was watching a tutorial on YT and not the director's cut of Titanic!!! Come on, Reason! #sarcasm #justjoking #totallyknowwhatyouresaying
I am so upgrading from 8 to 10 next payday because of this and the Complex-1
I hope you waited
WOW!
Love love looooooove
I used to use Reason -- I really do like it a lot. There is one major issue with it though, the fact that ... the mouse clickings are not "intuitive". Even just to zoom in, or to move to another clip is frustrating. Instead of just clicking ... you have to know where to click, and usually its a tiny region on the screen. Pretty lame -- especially considering Reason is super powerful. That literally is why I don't use it anymore. You guys should seriously consider changing that. Ok thanks for the good times tho.
Now with the reason rack, you can use all the sense in affection whatever DAW you want.
Wow. Amazing
yo i jus upgraded and necktar updated their driver all new devices and rack exenstion includin some vsts now show up with necktar p4 im overwhelmed.
This shit is crazy
wouldn't it be good if grain could render graintables to load into malstrom, would like to see that in the future
is it tempo sync?
sleek design
Only feature unique to this device is "set" tuning. Other than that, these features have already been well-refined by *FREE VSTs!* Also, are we all just going to forget about Maelstrom?
I wish all propellerhead sythns can be sold as a vst even octorex
Your wish came true!😂
Grain is include in reason 11 intro ?
If "Reason" wasn't so well ingrained a name for your product you should rename it "Inspire." That's what it does!
just dope
I have a ton samples like from iZotope Iris 2 library, wich I would really like to load in Grain :)
iv been trying to find out where my iris 2 library of samples are stored i have a mac and can't find where they are on my drive :(
try program files, common files, and app data if you're on PC
Please release it as a plugin like Europa
Does grain only play 1 grain? it doesnt work as othre granular synths that can extract and play multiple grains sometimes sccattered almost together? Thankd just need some clearing on this
Hah, I just produced a video with that same AfterEffects “opening book on a tabletop“ template yesterday. :)
Does GRAIN use only ONE grain? I mean Ive been trying to find the way to use multiple grains, but it seems its a One grain approach, and not a sccattering or shuffeling idea.. is it so? sorry I just wanted to think if this is so. Thanks!!
I just wish the sample playback position response would be linear, none of the device with sample start position automatable have a linear response which makes it not ideql to use with break loops... Sad.
Can Reason Studios provide a way to switch the automation response to linear for those devices? (At least the for the Grain)
So Rest In Peace Malstrom? 2005-2017
it's still there however!
I'm having issues with this, I load my sample, in it, change settings and when I preview it it doesn't play the editing I did. What gives?
You have to trigger it with midi notes. The preview button just plays the raw(unprocessed) sample
When will you sell this as a VST/AU plugin? It would instantly trounce all of the other granular synth plugins out there...
Now it is!
Please release this as a VST.
Woah.
Please make grain a vst, like you did Europa
Any plans on releasing this as a VST?
Any chance this will come to iPad?
Hours of fun! Actually, years.
Oh such a beautiful synth! . But i m never gonna use it. Why its not sold as a VST ? i dont want swap from ableton ! thats why i need to buy Padshop for granular instad ... ;( . So its Kinda fail
Don't seem to have the boomer bass preset in my preset list, is that from a separate pack?
Never mind, did an update and I have it now :)
Crazy..
How is this that different than the dozens of Max granulators I've messed with?
That's the trick, it's not.
Hater
Have Reason since 1.0.. :)
Thinking about update from 6.5(my actual version)
If I'm correct, Europa came out as a standalone vst. Will this Grain plugin ever come out (if not already) as a standalone vst too?
Please make this a VST.
Grain kills my Reason when loading longer audioclips (+2min)... makes the audio lagg as hell when pressing play, even thou the start and stop only are 2 sec apart . Think that the programmers got their memory handling a bit wrong :(
I had a similar issue with the beta version, but I haven't had a problem with the full version at all. The longest file I've tried is a little over 6 min (I'm sure there's a limit somewhere) but maybe there's something wrong with your setup? Have you changed your settings to allow Reason to use more than the default CPU power?
It was on 95%, now there is no limit but still lagg as hell :(
is this available for other daws?
Yes. Reason now runs in any DAW as a VST, AU, or AAX plugin too! /ryan
hello are it worth upgrade from reason 5 to 11 plz?
Yes.
I'm learning I'm learning
When oh when is Reason going to let us rescale the size of rack extensions..? it's ridiculous we can't take them out of the rack and rescale them so we can actually see what we are doing instead of squinting and squinting getting headaches trying to see the tiny tiny knobs and fonts.
What is the real difference between Malstrom and Grain?
Mads Petersen I never could drag and drop a sample into malstrom or at least I never saw the option to.
a vst3 starter kit and make your own, by first learning.
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Can grain use any sample i have wav files, Mp3 files ect
Yes!
I already have the tools I want. In order to get this I would have to spend over $400. Why not just sell the plugins separate? A combo with a burger fry and drink costs less than buying a burger and a drink. But not all people want the combo, sell us the burger. You’ll make more money and make people happy.
PH --- This is a list of ALL the feature requests us LOYAL Reason Users have been asking you to implement, some for over 10 years...1. ReCycle should've been implemented in V8 at least. Also needs updated as it is virtually outdated. 2. Vector Graphics/Scalable to custom preference 3. Ghost tracks for instruments & VSTs 4. Lower DSP use in all areas especially VSTs 5. Drawable automation curves 6. Realtime edit/Copy & Paste while song plays 7. Timeline flags/ bookmarks 8. MIDI note follow/chase 9. Combinator updates 10. NNXT updates 11. Subtractor updates 12. VST bugs/glitches/ freeze issues Don't say it's not a problem because for many it is13. Midi clip browse/ preview 14. Group & adjust multiple faders at same time 15. Better track freeze abilities 16. Session View like feature 17. Mute individual midi notes(kick,snare,hats) 18. Update GUI resolution/ 4K compatible 19. Non destructive cross fade capability 20. Tab to transient 21. Ability to save custom settings for comp/ eqs 22. Better stock Brass and Strings (instead of 3Gb of more drums n loops we already have) 23. Video support - I know, I know, but it would be awesome. 24. Sequencer feature /workflow overhaul 25. Mixer feature /workflow overhaul / Neve ? 26. Rack feature/ workflow overhaul. 27. Multitimbral support for VSTs to add more than 1 channel per plugin 28. MP3 exporting. 29. Collapsible channels behind the group buses 30. Parameter on the LF & HS EQs in main mixer 31. Add at least 2 additional EQ bands to mixer 32. DragNDrop clips from seq to devices in rack 33. Trigger blocks with midi controller 34. VST3 support/ after you fix current VST bugs 35. Ability to send midi clock to multiple outputs 36. Ability to delete any unwanted stock sound or sample 37. Select default track/midi clip colors 38. Ability to size & move Rack/Seq/mixer & VSTs windows anywhere and everywhere at will, with ease. 39. Better multi core performance for max CPU optimization 40. NNXT automatable parameters 41. Expandable/collapsible track groups. 42. Browser overhaul / performance boost 43. Add a new Compressor & EQ to stock effects.
If you are truly LISTENING to your customers, please start showing us by adding these features. V10 is not a RELEASE, it is a CONTENT UPGRADE. We want workflow improvements please.
I agree with almost all your points. But you are aware that literally all X.0 Reason updates are content updates and the X.5 updates are the workflow/non-content updates? It makes sense, since the devs have more time to make such workflow updates and content updates just sell better. Random Joe who see's Grain and Europa, instead of collapsable groups or more bands in the EQ, is more eager to buy Reason 10. Workflow updates make only money from people already owning Reason, so that's why the content updates are the major releases.
@Andre Ratzenberger
Yes I have seen the pattern of release content. Have you seen the release date pattern? Check it out sometime. V10 was VERY PREMATURE & RUSHED, in order to make "MORE" $$$ off of Us.
Just because that's how PH has always conducted releases doesn't mean they always have to do it that way. This is a great marketing tactic to get new customers...however, for those of us LOYAL Reason Users who've been asking for feature requests (some for over 10 years) it feels like a disrespectful slap in the face/wallet. You're saying PH couldn't have added 1 of the almost 50 requests we've been begging for? Very disrespectful to LOYAL customers, in many users opinions. Go read ALL of the comments in ALL of the last 7 videos PH released regarding V10, then come back to this conversation.
But it does have non-destructive Xfade abilities???
How do you achieve it?
@epicpolyphony
Still trying to figure it out aye??
When ever I record a melody in Reason 10 I can’t even get it to loop at the 4 bar it seems off even with the notes right on the marker smh
Do you have the loop button on?
Doug Royce yea
You're referring to recording in the sequencer @@JoseFlores-zu3bg