I used to be afraid of fire alarms back when I was a kid in school but now I actually kindof think it’s cool and I now work as a fire alarm/security technician
@@nics-systems-electricthis may sound weird but I’ve watched this channel for 3 years and never cried until I heard the last beep of that panel it sounded sad
@@nics-systems-electricI think you should install addressable devices outside I mean you have too many devices so you can put them to use well you don’t have too many there is no such thing as too many fire alarms
As an electrician I have not had much experience with fire alarms. I found your video extremely helpful and informative. I loved how you speed up the video during the slower parts. I subscribed!
Your fire alarm panellooks so old. It just looks old. All thepull 0:31 stations are old. I never saw these videos before well. Thanks for creating one. 0:25
Awesome video! Keep up the great content. Conventional to addressable wiring can be a pain sometimes. Also I found that out myself about the Notifier key can open Fire-Lite devices, but Fire-Lite keys cannot open Notifier devices. That's quite the common flaw on many different panels I have seen.
I think it's weird how we have standard connections for pretty much anything other than fire alarms. USB, 2-pin connectors, 4-pin connectors, I mean even desktop PCs have made everything plug-n-play. But fire systems? Just loose wires you have to plug into exactly the correct spot for them to work correctly. Standardize connections for fire systems, and everything becomes easier. Installing a system, upgrading it, diagnosing / fixing it, the whole shebang. And if you incorporate a low-power SBC (like a Pi Zero) and send it 5V when the alarms are going off, you can have a script send you a notification so you can be there in a heartbeat if the fire department wants you to correct your configuration.
That's a completely different thing USB connections are 5 V fire alarms are 24 and much higher current. Fire alarm systems just like other electrical components are not meant to be something that is commonly removed it needs to be a solid connection as it is life safety
So I guess i never really understood how these devices are wired. Is it all seperate wires for each device into the SLC, or does it all run off of one wire that is split until the EOL? I’ve wanted to go with an addressable system for the future. Just never really understood the wiring concept.
There are videos out there that explain it way better than I can but it's just one set of wires other two or four depending on if it's a class a class B loop and if it's addressable there is no EOLR
So when you say set of wires, you mean one seperate wire for each device running into the one SLC, right? My brain has a hard time processing some things so I ask for clarification purposes
@@alarmtech5909 no it is a set of two wires that travel around the building to stop at each device and at the end of the line if it's a class A system there are two wires that return back to the panel making it a complete loop
Where can I learn more about fire alarms in general besides your videos. Please i work for a fire company and would like to learn fast to climb higher.
Hey, I like this video, subbed. I was wondering if you touched on polls/queries for the programming the system? I don't work with addressable systems yet so I'm not familiar with them. TIA.
Oh! fun fact since you said that if you jiggle the notifier key on fire lite lock, when I got my first fire alarm ( fire lite bg-12l) it actually came with a notifier key.
If recent, I suppose it could've come from some sort of temporary setup related to you know, "the disease." Things like testing sites and field hospitals.
Funny story. I was in school and things were normal for the most part periods 1,2,3,4,5 were normal during lunch the fire alarms went off because we had electricians adding new fire alarms to our school and someone tripped the alarm wire so everyone evacuated and we were out there for like 30 minutes because we had to wait for the fire department to clear the building and we had to find our home room teachers and we missed lunch so we ate it in 7th period and I’m in eighth grade and we had 25 minute classes because of state tests missed 6th period and missed lunch.
Nice work. I would’ve recommended keeping the panel and switching out the devices. Addressable sucks. I’ve had trouble with it A lot whenever I’m out doing stuff.
@@nics-systems-electric ok, I actually have some Kidde pulls that use their own key, but the Simplex Key, EST Key, Fire-Lite Key, and Notifier Key all work at a varying spot in the lock. All of the keys are built very similarly with slight differences.
I used to be afraid of fire alarms back when I was a kid in school but now I actually kindof think it’s cool and I now work as a fire alarm/security technician
Damn man I remember watching this vid 3 years ago now. Hard to believe I've been watching the channel for 3 years now. Keep up the great work dude.
Thanks, it's been a fun journey.
@@nics-systems-electricthis may sound weird but I’ve watched this channel for 3 years and never cried until I heard the last beep of that panel it sounded sad
@@nics-systems-electricI think you should install addressable devices outside I mean you have too many devices so you can put them to use well you don’t have too many there is no such thing as too many fire alarms
I’ve been watching the channel since day one, I love going back to see all the changes you have made. Keep working hard
As an electrician I have not had much experience with fire alarms. I found your video extremely helpful and informative. I loved how you speed up the video during the slower parts. I subscribed!
Your fire alarm panellooks so old. It just looks old. All thepull
0:31 stations are old. I never saw these videos before well. Thanks for creating one. 0:25
I honestly can't believe that it has been 2 years since the FireLite has been installed! Amazing how time flies!!!
Awesome video! Keep up the great content.
Conventional to addressable wiring can be a pain sometimes.
Also I found that out myself about the Notifier key can open Fire-Lite devices, but Fire-Lite keys cannot open Notifier devices. That's quite the common flaw on many different panels I have seen.
And addressable to conventional ?
@@Fire-hq3rm yes I converted the system from conventional to addressable
That panel is nice
Cool great work!! This was really entertaining!! Stay safe and have fun!! ...
Yn
Stay safe from what
That's a great afforts , Do you install Edward EST3 panel before
My school used to have edwards 439d 10 awc bells with simplex 4080 mini bells and simplex 4251s. I am trying to get a simplex 4080 big bell.
Cool
I think it's weird how we have standard connections for pretty much anything other than fire alarms. USB, 2-pin connectors, 4-pin connectors, I mean even desktop PCs have made everything plug-n-play. But fire systems? Just loose wires you have to plug into exactly the correct spot for them to work correctly.
Standardize connections for fire systems, and everything becomes easier. Installing a system, upgrading it, diagnosing / fixing it, the whole shebang. And if you incorporate a low-power SBC (like a Pi Zero) and send it 5V when the alarms are going off, you can have a script send you a notification so you can be there in a heartbeat if the fire department wants you to correct your configuration.
That's a completely different thing USB connections are 5 V fire alarms are 24 and much higher current. Fire alarm systems just like other electrical components are not meant to be something that is commonly removed it needs to be a solid connection as it is life safety
What is the title of the music that you used when you were taking the Notifier SFP-10UD
Sorry I can’t remember
@@nics-systems-electric Okay.
What kind of resistor for the 9200UDLS
Only nac circuits 4.7 K ohm
@@nics-systems-electric what about for the pull stations, smokes & heats
@@firealarm421 It’s addressable
@@nics-systems-electric so no resistors for the pull stations & smoke detectors?
@@firealarm421 No it’s an addressable system
So I guess i never really understood how these devices are wired. Is it all seperate wires for each device into the SLC, or does it all run off of one wire that is split until the EOL?
I’ve wanted to go with an addressable system for the future. Just never really understood the wiring concept.
There are videos out there that explain it way better than I can but it's just one set of wires other two or four depending on if it's a class a class B loop and if it's addressable there is no EOLR
So when you say set of wires, you mean one seperate wire for each device running into the one SLC, right? My brain has a hard time processing some things so I ask for clarification purposes
@@alarmtech5909 no it is a set of two wires that travel around the building to stop at each device and at the end of the line if it's a class A system there are two wires that return back to the panel making it a complete loop
@@nics-systems-electric Ah, alright.
I love that breaker in your system!
sup man
What end of line resistor do these panel use?
4.7 K on nac and sync output
What did you end up doing to the Notifier panel?
demo system
Ok!
@@nics-systems-electric can I have the panel I have a system but not a panel
@@lloydrogers8265 no
Great Video Nick
Looks like a nice upgrade!
I will watch part 2 have a great day
19:05 haha I love the LOTO lock, i need to get one
Great video! I really like Addressable fire alarms!
Keep up there good work on here mate keep up there good work on TH-cam TH-cam video TH-cam TH-cam mate TH-cam TH-cam video TH-cam TH-cam mate
Where can I learn more about fire alarms in general besides your videos. Please i work for a fire company and would like to learn fast to climb higher.
th-cam.com/users/JoeKlochan this guy has some good videos on systems and their operation
What fire panel model is that
Fire lite 9200udls however I recommend a fire lite MS9050-UD panel for starters
Hey, I like this video, subbed. I was wondering if you touched on polls/queries for the programming the system? I don't work with addressable systems yet so I'm not familiar with them. TIA.
Done that many times. Love fire lite
Question, once you pass addressable code 159, then what. What if I want 500 so to say?
You can’t
I'm wondering, how much did your new addressable fire alarm upgrade cost?
I think it was around 2K maybe a little more
You still have the other panel?
Yes
@@nics-systems-electric would you ever think about selling it?
@@SDPP992 No it’s being used as a demo system
@@nics-systems-electric the sfp-5ud?
@@SDPP992 Yes but it’s a sfp10-ud
Just wondering where did you get your devices
Some from eBay some from schools and some I don’t remember
I’m planning an getting a new addressable panel soon
Conventional better and easy
Cool! Is Ben Sound Free?
Ya I think so
I picture you and I testing alarms together.
Oh! fun fact since you said that if you jiggle the notifier key on fire lite lock, when I got my first fire alarm ( fire lite bg-12l) it actually came with a notifier key.
Fire lite key is still better obviously but it sometimes works with notifier
@@nics-systems-electric but then once I got a bg-10lx not to long ago, it came with a fire lite key and it works a lot better
@@Fire-hq3rm yeah it’s definitely ideal to have the right key but if you had to you could use a notifier key
If recent, I suppose it could've come from some sort of temporary setup related to you know, "the disease." Things like testing sites and field hospitals.
Ya I’m not sure
Always
Ground
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Negative
Cable
Wait.. Never mind
Wait he did ground it
Great job
I would need to take a picture before taking it apart lol but that’s me
Cool system
Woah! What a surprise :)
I love ms9200udls
Yay finally ive been waiting for this
can you make part 2 please
There will be a part two on Saturday
Fantastic
Why didn’t you put in a notifier system?
Because firelite is cheaper and more easily available what notifier system were you thinking?
idk cuz I just got back into fire alarms from trains
Finally found this video!!
you can get a knock-out reducer ring, that reduces the 3/4 to 1/2 for the security wire.
Next time put the camera closer
Funny story. I was in school and things were normal for the most part periods 1,2,3,4,5 were normal during lunch the fire alarms went off because we had electricians adding new fire alarms to our school and someone tripped the alarm wire so everyone evacuated and we were out there for like 30 minutes because we had to wait for the fire department to clear the building and we had to find our home room teachers and we missed lunch so we ate it in 7th period and I’m in eighth grade and we had 25 minute classes because of state tests missed 6th period and missed lunch.
Craziest thing is that many classes we have 4 classes a day
tie wraps need to be plenum rated bubba
Nope
Why would it require to be Plenum rated when it’s in a panel not a plenum space
Nice work. I would’ve recommended keeping the panel and switching out the devices. Addressable sucks. I’ve had trouble with it A lot whenever I’m out doing stuff.
i wish i had a control panl
Can l have the notifier panel
I'd do $1200CAN
Ok
Wonder why you didn't get copyrighted with the Music you put
I noticed you deleted some older videos what was the reason? Just curious
Didn’t like them and one of them showed confidential stuff
@@nics-systems-electric that’s ok
I’m excited for part 2
Oh ok
Should’ve replaced with a ms10ud
No. That is what this panel replaced I already had a 10UD.
Lol I still remember when u had less subs than me
Ya lol
2:14
No notifier why?!😫
What would be the difference notifier literally makes the exact same panel they are both owned by Honeywell very similar
@@nics-systems-electric yeah i know but the panel Just Looks so unconfortable btw im a really big fan
Dude, just pull the notifier key out slightly instead of shaking the whole door to open it.
I would normally use a firelite key Just demonstrating but that is good to know
@@nics-systems-electric ok, I actually have some Kidde pulls that use their own key, but the Simplex Key, EST Key, Fire-Lite Key, and Notifier Key all work at a varying spot in the lock. All of the keys are built very similarly with slight differences.
Wow
hi
I have your black fire alarm panel can I have it for free
You can buy it
@@nics-systems-electric how much
@@Ethanrichey935 $1,215 Canadian + shipping
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Why you don’t test, test finish and remove
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