I really truly never understand all these dislikes. Here’s a guy trying to explain something to you, took the time to make it, edit it and post it, that has far more experience than anyone leaving dislikes or you’d have made your own video. Thank you for the explanation and hopefully someone learned something.
I blew a belt on xp1000. Replaced it with aftermarket belt. Over time it became very jerky at slow speeds in drive and reverse. I replaced the clutch with a dalton and your wider belt. It rides great. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and great products.
I just put your belt on my sons 2016 900s RZR. It was very jerky when applying slight acceleration. It was like that when we bought it used. Now it’s smooth as silk. I hope it stays that way. These belts do appear to help. I’ll follow up after more use. As of now I give Hunterworks belts 5 stars.
I ordered the 92 GC belt for my 17 Polaris Ranger 1000 xp crew that was pretty jerky from a dead stop. The Hunterworks belt 100% alleviates the jerky start. I could not be happier with the product, service or the shipping time. Thank you very much Hunterworks for a great product!!
I am a firm believer that a belt should be either engaged or not engaged, when starting out do not ease into the throttle, get on the throttle so that the belt engages quicker and does not slip.
Mother Clutcher secondary completely changed my diesel ranger. Whole new machine. Gone is the very jerky start and, more importantly, gone is the annoying harsh engine braking.
If you have questions about clutch systems this is the man to ask, he will reply back and help you if it’s possible. I bought some clutch removal/installation tools from his website and a 1 way bearing for my RZR 800 and msgd him several times and he always replied back.
Please lets us know as soon as you come out with new clutching products for the 2023 Ca-Am Commander dps 700, belts, clutch removal tool, clutch kits etc. By the way your videos are great, easy to follow and very informative. Thanks
im just getting my 1st RZR. and im nervous because ive heard so many horor stories about them. Juat found your channel and you explain eveything so well and easy. So now ive been binge watching your videos and have a lot more confidence that i will enjoy my new hobby and not just be fucking it and blowing money or getting ripped off. and if and when it does break i know where to go for helpful info thanks from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸
Hunterworks Inc. that’s an untrue statement if I’ve ever heard one. I’ve been around cvt’s since the 70’s and, if operated properly, there should be no jerkiness. Does not matter id it’s a 400 horse drag sled or a ranger, driver error is the #1 cause of jerkey starts.
I’ve always heard that once you slip a belt it’s only going to happen more and more. Accidentally slipped mine on my 18 Polaris sportsman 850. Now it has the jerky start. I forgot to put it in low to climb out of a rut in 4x4. Needles to say I’ll be looking at these if my bike is supported.
Firstly thank you for posting this video... now into the meat... Brand new General 1000 is a bitch to move (every one of them are like this) jerky as hell so a bit thicker belt from you folks will help with this? It's just down right aggravating when your trying to move this thing with any type of finesse in close quarters!
The biggest issue bar none with jerky starts is rider error. This seems to be 10x worse with old timers who are afraid of “abusing” their equipment as well as brand new riders. The reason why is that they barely breathe on the throttle because they don’t understand how a cvt type clutch works. The best way is to actually step on the throttle more than needed to get the sheaves of the drive clutch to lock up with the belt. After you’re moving, you can lift to acheive smooth acceleration.
I just bought an 08 rzr 800 with stock tires, 70 hours, garage kept. It is in pristine condition. I am an old timer at heart, so you're not wrong, but when I'm on a steep mountain bear hunting trail, I don't want to have to floor it for smooth accelleration. I'm in low gear, moving slow and smooth is REQUIRED. I owned the first 4-wheeler ever made and it drove better than the Rzr.
@@Hunterworks hey Todd. Appreciate ya and all your videos. Unrelated, but I figure you’d be the man to ask. If descending a steep slope in a Polaris ranger 570 (no “active descent control” feature), you obviously need to keep enough throttle to stay engaged so you’re not freewheeling down the grade. Is it just a matter of practice to be able to finesse it and not alternate between gaining too much speed and then jamming on the brake lol? I know some folks will give it constant throttle to keep clutch engaged and apply brakes as necessary . Is it harmful for the machine to do that? Again, appreciate your insight. Hope business is still good
Theres also something called the Carrier bearing that is between the two front seats on a 2 door rzr that over time wears out and also causes extreme jerkiness since the driveshaft wiggles which can cause the driveshaft to bend ive swapped this on 4 of our rzrs and had to swap a driveshaft too.
Jose Guajardo yep, older rzr carrier bearings, or more accurately the rubber they’re bonded to the mount with, fail and cause quite a bibration as well as the typical marbles in a blender sound.
This is one of the big reasons why the Yamaha belt system is much better. It has a wet disk centrifugal clutch inside the gearcase for butter smooth take offs and much less belt wear. Yamaha also has a one way sprag clutch (similar to the gear driven Honda ATV's) so it has constant belt engagement all the time and excellent well controlled engine braking down hills. Great video explaining the problems with the Polaris setup!
All vehicles have their issues and applications for riding styles. Most times when someone mentions something like this I just delete it as it does not help or add to what the video is about . But since you included that last sentence and was tactful about it, I am leaving it here.
I got a 1,000 with a jerky start and I'd like to try one of your belts first then maybe go to the part that you was talking about the clutch that stops the jerky start that you fell
Great video, I just got a 900s, my first SXS. It's got quite a jerky start, so I was curious if it was normal. I'd like to go ahead and get a new clutch kit from yall.
Great video explaining the process and issues! Say we have a CFMOTO Uforce we added to the pack last year and it is super jerky. Rumor has it its the ECU and swapping it out with the Zforce fixes it. Ever heard of that before? Another rumor is switching the belt take a care of it. It just seems hard to image a new belt will change much if it's been happening since the machine was new (meaning new belt). Any thoughts? No worries if not.
@@NavigateOffroad cfmoto shouldn't do that, they have well designed transmissions. Has the belt system been submerged? May have some debris in the weights... just 1 possibility
@@HumpDaddy01 hey thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately it has been doing it from the start. I've had others reach out and complain of the same issue as well, so it's pretty disappointing.
I bought my 2019 general 1000 4 new. At time of purchase the sales man told me to press the brake and give it a little gas to help not be so jerky. It works . without pressing the brake first it’s jumpy when starting to move forward or back. It just thought it is expected to be like that. I have not owned any other atv. So nothing to compare it to.
Hey love the videos buddy! I have a rzr 1000 the clutch is a little wore on the inside like you explained! do you have any recommendations for a belt? 34inch tires mainly mud riding, some trails medium speeds
2016 rzr 579...still have the OEM Polaris Belt... I'm the original owner...bought new....and it's barely starting to have a jerky start when parked for weeks at a time.... probably just the belt stretched over time and wear ...Hunter works vs OEM...what's truly the difference?
Would appreciate any suggestions. 2012 Polaris 800 Razor EFI hesitates at 45-50 mph. 45 is about 6350rpm. Not really a sputter or cough. Repairman just cleaned throttle body and fuel injectors and said idle air circuit was partially open causing a misfire at that speed. None of the work performed solved the issue. One person suggested the primary and secondary cluthes might be fighting each other. Need to get it fixed pretty quick so we can sell it and move, but I want it to be right. I should also mention that it has full power no issues 0-45. No codes, no engine light. Always at that speed only.Thanks. Appreciate anything.
@@Hunterworks Thank You for your response. I have some new information on the 2012 Polaris 800 Razor having issues at 45mph. I was asked if it could go faster than 45mph. Just took it for another test. As usual it hesitates at 45mph. I pushed it on a longer stretch and when it gets to 50mph it stops hesitating. When I get to 55mph it hesitates again. Top speed is 60 mph at a maximum of 6500 rpm. To obtain codes, one video suggested turning the key off and on 3 times and it will show a code. Didn’t see anything pop up when I tried it. I don’t know if this 800 has the ability to display any codes? I’d like to include some responses from folks kind enough to offer suggestions to see if it triggers any other ideas pointing to one thing. The spark plugs were replaced about 1.5 years ago. They were examined recently and found to be good. I still might replace them as that’s a cheaper item. I suppose it could be a bad spark plug wire.. or coil wire. Your thoughts? Suggestions: fuel pressure check, sounds like fuel pump, spray water on spark plug wires and coil wire, Fuel stabilizer, Belt might be slipping, inspect clutches and belts, don’t think its clutch related, sounds like clutches sticking, check belt for damage, weights in primary clutch are too light, was IAC mechanically stuck open or electrically being opened. Thanks again. I’m hoping this new information might directly point to something that I will try and tackle on my own. Taking it in is a last resort for me. I promise, to get back to you once I find the issue! Thank you kindly. Very much appreciated. Dave
@@davepo6443 I do not recall top speed on a 800 rzr, been a minute but 6500 is the rev limiter so that is the cutting out you are dealing with, sounds more like a clutch issue now
2016 900 Xp ranger when I bought new I complained the lock up was horrible and jerky and seemed like the gear selector linkage wasn’t adjusted as it would not be in the correct spot say if I moved from low to reverse and would grind if I bumped the selector it would fall in gear. Polaris replaced the clutch made it some better hooks up at a lower rpm but still jerks especially under a load at a low rpm, love the utv EXCEPT for those issues. Will your belt help or cure ? Any idea on the linkage ? Should I try and adjust ?
All depends on what is causing it, our belt will be less jerky for sure, cure it 100% no but way better. The Duraclutch mentioned cures it. On the shifting just hard to say a clutch can cause it if not fully releasing.
Just replaced the belt on my 900s 18' stock belt had 800km on it and definitely felt like slip and grip. New g force belt is in and now feels solid and Jerky again just need to break it in
I changed the belt of my ranger 800 With a similar market belt then I had difficulties in shifting the gears I can only shift if the machine is turned of and sitting perfectly horizontal please any advise
I have a 2009 Polaris 800 efi (well it is my parents and they are letting me use it after I had a stroke and I am staying in their 20 year old rv to save money since I can't work yet and use it to go to the laundry) It is having some issues and I wonder if you can help me figure out what it can be? One is it sometimes back fires, the other is sometimes when I put it in gear it jumps a bit but won't go forward or backwards. If I turn it off and try again it will work. It is very jerky at the beginning and then it works fine once driving. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me. Money is tight for both them and me. They are retired blue collar workers.
not sure if I can help out with the backfire issue. Normally that's a exhaust leak but send me an email todd@hunterworks.com and send me the exactly this and I’ll reply to Monday with some links.
I bought a 2020 Polaris Ranger 1000 esp last year but I want to buy a spare belt. What is your suggestion ? Do you ship to Canada? What is the difference between your clutch and Polaris. Thanks so much, Andy from Canada
Is there a way to make the belt tighter? For example I have machines that have 8 belts on them. I can adjust them. I was in a ravine in about 3’ of snow & I could smell the belt smoking. Now it slips. I looked at it & it still looks good.
No and you do not want it tighter, would get too hot. email me at todd@hunterworks.com about what you have going on and tell me the vehicle, tires etc and miles
How much is the thicker belt for a 1 7 rzr xp1000 in canadian funds??? Lookin to solve a severly bad jerky start. So bad makes a slow ride quite violent.
I just picked up a 2002 sportsman 400 with 200 miles on it as it sat in storage I cleaned the carb and it runs like a top but it looks like a brand new belt and I removed the cover because the transmission was constantly turning and I was grinding gears trying to get it into gear . Looks like the belt is riding in the center of the primary but is that a bearing between the sheaves ? Maybe it’s supposed to roll free but is don’t
I am not sure, but I do not think it has a bearing, think that far back the belt is loose enough to allow it to idle in gear. I really only know 08 and newer polaris UTV
@@Hunterworks thanks for the reply. I just found out that is the engine brake bearing and is supposed to move freely only in one direction. If it gets bad it can cause belt tracking issues
I got a 2016 RZR turbo I started getting the jerky start A hour after I smoked the belt trying to get unstuck I had an extra belt so I threw that on And there was no jerky start anymore Did the higher temperature stretch the belt out Is the belt re-usable I also cleaned it when I installed the new belt And there was some black marks on the clutches So I’m not sure if just cleaning it would have been enough Since I installed a new belt also This was a oem belt
can you please explain how the spider could possibly "back off"? as the force of friction with the belt actually tightens the clutch during driving and acceleration in both forward and reverse. there could possibly be a back off force during deceleration but that force would likely be much lower than acceleration ones.
The force on decel is pretty good and vibrations of the engine. So you speed up tighten, decel loosen and over time that back and forth then engine vibrations turn it out.
The nut some times come off all by itself and there is no force on it all. Not sure the why is important because the only way to fix it is take it apart, and lather it up with 620 loctite.
It does seem hard to believe. I just dissembled a ‘15 1000 primary and was shocked. The spider jam nut was only slightly tight, came of with a spanner wrench and the spider came off by hand. The machine has 3200 miles on it.
My brand new RS1 has a jerky engagement every now and then. Sometimes, well most of the time it’s very smooth, but every now and then it has a clunky sounding jerky engagement. Is this normal?
Would it be possible to pull a shim from the back of the secondary clutch to slightly offset the belt alignment for a quicker engagement at lower RPM? Basically adjusting clutch alignment to just before creeping mode?
@@RydinginStyle72 I can't say what it has but belt alignment will not make it engage sooner or later. Changing the primary spring to a weaker would be best for that but will mess up clutching somewhere elese
Can you recommend a good second choice as am running nitrous so a good belt is paramount was even thinking about your clutch system to give me a bit more transferable power
2018 1000 Xp mine has done it from the git go brand new no wear on anything was told by several shop mechanics said it was dew to the square fly weights in the clutch so witch is it are you trying to sell something
What are square flyweights? There are square pucks in the secondary and you need our round rollers so it does not wear it out but that has nothing to do with a jerky start, it has to do with what this video says, nothing else. Dealers are dumb
Your belt for my 2019 ranger xp has eased the jerky start a fair amount, but what would cause a small chirp at low speeds? The chirp disappears around 8 and 10 mph.
2020 polaris rzr 1000 turbo 30 inch tires reverse and low are fine..I'm getting clunking in high at low speeds ! 2629 miles 108.3 for hours..how often should you replace a belt also ? Thanks
My 2012 Ranger 800xp has a loud clunk in the rear/clutch/transmission when I put it in gear to accelerate. A lot of play somewhere back there that's going to snap something off eventually. Any ideas?
Not sure I understand that. Normal? You mean for its age or is there something you sell that will make for a smoother transition from idle to accelerate? I bought it new and never really noticed it having this much play in it before.
I have a rs1 it's like going down hill makes all kinds of noise do they make a different clutch for it or do you think one of your belts would help I do a lot of slow speeds or do you think I need different springs it's a 2018 with 32s on it
We do not offer a kit for it nor clutches, you might have an issue you need to look for, you can use our 2016-20 turbo troubleshooting videos, more or less same clutches. Our belt while not listed for a RS1 is much thicker than stock, works great, go to our site and order any turbo rzr belt. They are all the same here and works great on it
Washing new belts in hot soapy water and letting it dry completely , keeping clutch plates clean and doing a proper belt break-in will prevent this from happening ...
I really truly never understand all these dislikes. Here’s a guy trying to explain something to you, took the time to make it, edit it and post it, that has far more experience than anyone leaving dislikes or you’d have made your own video. Thank you for the explanation and hopefully someone learned something.
Thank you and it is because people are people and some just suck!!! LOL It does not concern me
@@Hunterworks Does me. It’s indicative of the lack of respect and general IQ.
JBS Culture Club. Go to JBS Performance's YT page and return the favor with some thumbs down.
Some people are just d heads.
Got what u wanted now u cant see the disliked.
I blew a belt on xp1000. Replaced it with aftermarket belt. Over time it became very jerky at slow speeds in drive and reverse. I replaced the clutch with a dalton and your wider belt. It rides great. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and great products.
You can sand paper the edges of your belt to get glaze off and it stops the jerky start. Belt like new afterwards
I replaced my original 2017 polaris general belt today with the hunter works.
Problem was solved, no more jerky starts.
Thank you very much. 👍🇺🇸
No thank you
I just put your belt on my sons 2016 900s RZR. It was very jerky when applying slight acceleration. It was like that when we bought it used. Now it’s smooth as silk. I hope it stays that way. These belts do appear to help. I’ll follow up after more use. As of now I give Hunterworks belts 5 stars.
Hows that belt holding up?
How's the belt holding up?
@BengyM still good?
I ordered the 92 GC belt for my 17 Polaris Ranger 1000 xp crew that was pretty jerky from a dead stop. The Hunterworks belt 100% alleviates the jerky start. I could not be happier with the product, service or the shipping time. Thank you very much Hunterworks for a great product!!
Thanks for your comments
I am a firm believer that a belt should be either engaged or not engaged, when starting out do not ease into the throttle, get on the throttle so that the belt engages quicker and does not slip.
You are correct sir
Mother Clutcher secondary completely changed my diesel ranger. Whole new machine. Gone is the very jerky start and, more importantly, gone is the annoying harsh engine braking.
If you have questions about clutch systems this is the man to ask, he will reply back and help you if it’s possible. I bought some clutch removal/installation tools from his website and a 1 way bearing for my RZR 800 and msgd him several times and he always replied back.
Thank you for your comments
youtube sent me this link, I just did my belt on a ranger 570 ( ultimaxHQ ) but your video was helpful in understanding what is happening.
Please lets us know as soon as you come out with new clutching products for the 2023 Ca-Am Commander dps 700, belts, clutch removal tool, clutch kits etc.
By the way your videos are great, easy to follow and very informative.
Thanks
I am not sure when this will happen, trying to decide to do this vehicle or not. Why just a couple vehicles with these clutches.
Thanks for the explanation and education. Looking to replace my stock belt with a Hunterworks soon enough.
im just getting my 1st RZR. and im nervous because ive heard so many horor stories about them. Juat found your channel and you explain eveything so well and easy.
So now ive been binge watching your videos and have a lot more confidence that i will enjoy my new hobby and not just be fucking it and blowing money or getting ripped off.
and if and when it does break i know where to go for helpful info
thanks from Ontario Canada
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Don't even have a side by side yet butim glad i know about these issue's ahead of time. Thanks for the research and info.
Any UTV with this style of clutch will experience this
Hunterworks Inc. that’s an untrue statement if I’ve ever heard one. I’ve been around cvt’s since the 70’s and, if operated properly, there should be no jerkiness. Does not matter id it’s a 400 horse drag sled or a ranger, driver error is the #1 cause of jerkey starts.
I’ve always heard that once you slip a belt it’s only going to happen more and more. Accidentally slipped mine on my 18 Polaris sportsman 850. Now it has the jerky start. I forgot to put it in low to climb out of a rut in 4x4. Needles to say I’ll be looking at these if my bike is supported.
Not at this time, only UTV's
Firstly thank you for posting this video... now into the meat... Brand new General 1000 is a bitch to move (every one of them are like this) jerky as hell so a bit thicker belt from you folks will help with this? It's just down right aggravating when your trying to move this thing with any type of finesse in close quarters!
I hear ya - same with my 2021- 1000 ranger - have less than 500 miles on it and “ jerky “ I hate it !
@@tinkergene mine also
The biggest issue bar none with jerky starts is rider error. This seems to be 10x worse with old timers who are afraid of “abusing” their equipment as well as brand new riders. The reason why is that they barely breathe on the throttle because they don’t understand how a cvt type clutch works. The best way is to actually step on the throttle more than needed to get the sheaves of the drive clutch to lock up with the belt. After you’re moving, you can lift to acheive smooth acceleration.
While is true, they are not going to do it
I just bought an 08 rzr 800 with stock tires, 70 hours, garage kept. It is in pristine condition. I am an old timer at heart, so you're not wrong, but when I'm on a steep mountain bear hunting trail, I don't want to have to floor it for smooth accelleration. I'm in low gear, moving slow and smooth is REQUIRED. I owned the first 4-wheeler ever made and it drove better than the Rzr.
@@Hunterworks hey Todd. Appreciate ya and all your videos. Unrelated, but I figure you’d be the man to ask. If descending a steep slope in a Polaris ranger 570 (no “active descent control” feature), you obviously need to keep enough throttle to stay engaged so you’re not freewheeling down the grade. Is it just a matter of practice to be able to finesse it and not alternate between gaining too much speed and then jamming on the brake lol? I know some folks will give it constant throttle to keep clutch engaged and apply brakes as necessary . Is it harmful for the machine to do that? Again, appreciate your insight. Hope business is still good
Ye esp. Backing a small duck boat up hill in a shed, works great, try it some time with a Polaris.
Theres also something called the Carrier bearing that is between the two front seats on a 2 door rzr that over time wears out and also causes extreme jerkiness since the driveshaft wiggles
which can cause the driveshaft to bend ive swapped this on 4 of our rzrs and had to swap a driveshaft too.
Jose Guajardo yep, older rzr carrier bearings, or more accurately the rubber they’re bonded to the mount with, fail and cause quite a bibration as well as the typical marbles in a blender sound.
The problem with the Haters is they didn't get enough BELTS when they were kids! Lol
This is one of the big reasons why the Yamaha belt system is much better. It has a wet disk centrifugal clutch inside the gearcase for butter smooth take offs and much less belt wear. Yamaha also has a one way sprag clutch (similar to the gear driven Honda ATV's) so it has constant belt engagement all the time and excellent well controlled engine braking down hills. Great video explaining the problems with the Polaris setup!
All vehicles have their issues and applications for riding styles. Most times when someone mentions something like this I just delete it as it does not help or add to what the video is about . But since you included that last sentence and was tactful about it, I am leaving it here.
@@Hunterworks Thanks and no disrespect intended at all! I agree all makes have their pros / cons. Thanks again for the great videos.
@@ModernSurvivalists The ones that say, because it is a polaris etc LOL get deleted
My 2005 arctic cat 500 has the same “ wet clutch “ concept LOVE IT !
Remember the belt is a consumable, when it goes it's really no big deal. When the Yamaha goes im sure it's not a trailside fix.
I got a 1,000 with a jerky start and I'd like to try one of your belts first then maybe go to the part that you was talking about the clutch that stops the jerky start that you fell
Great video, I just got a 900s, my first SXS. It's got quite a jerky start, so I was curious if it was normal. I'd like to go ahead and get a new clutch kit from yall.
Get on out site and get it ordered up or email me todd@hunterworks.com to make sure we get the right stuff for you
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I bought my razor brand new in 2009 and I had never had any trouble with my machine.
This more so applies to the newer, higher HP and heavier machines
The best clutch system I have ever seen is the Yamaha’s.
I replaced the helix on my 900 smooth as silk now
Great video explaining the process and issues!
Say we have a CFMOTO Uforce we added to the pack last year and it is super jerky. Rumor has it its the ECU and swapping it out with the Zforce fixes it. Ever heard of that before? Another rumor is switching the belt take a care of it. It just seems hard to image a new belt will change much if it's been happening since the machine was new (meaning new belt).
Any thoughts? No worries if not.
Sorry no thought, never seen a CF Moto or know anything about one.
@@Hunterworks fair enough, thanks.
@@NavigateOffroad cfmoto shouldn't do that, they have well designed transmissions. Has the belt system been submerged? May have some debris in the weights... just 1 possibility
@@HumpDaddy01 hey thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately it has been doing it from the start. I've had others reach out and complain of the same issue as well, so it's pretty disappointing.
Brand new they can do this. Cfmoto is Chinese with ktm engine. Rzr did it new
I bought my 2019 general 1000 4 new. At time of purchase the sales man told me to press the brake and give it a little gas to help not be so jerky. It works . without pressing the brake first it’s jumpy when starting to move forward or back. It just thought it is expected to be like that. I have not owned any other atv. So nothing to compare it to.
Your salesman does not know what he is talking about, might help what you said but burning the belt and bottom of clutch.
That helped my 2019 general too
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My 2020 general been jerky since day 1 when I unloaded of the trailer. Especially in reverse. My only complaint with the machine.
It has a very thin belt, switch over to the Hunterworks 92G belt, it will improve that.
@@Hunterworks I actually did order your belt Saturday cant wait for it to get here in Ohio!!
Thanks for sharing this with us! I appreciate it
Being new to the sport, thanks for this knowledge !
You are welcome!!
New 2017 General has done it from about 200 miles on....installed new belt and it went away for a while but came back.
Did you try our belt? Our general belt is thicker and grabs better
JD2CYLINDERNUT 18 General. Nearly 1200 mi. No signs of jerkiness @ all.
I indication for runout...get pully straight then set alignment
What?
My 2017 XP 1000 has done this since the day I bought it.
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The xp1000s are fun! So much power and control.
Very impressed with how you explain the complete workings.
Do you make a belt for a 2021
RZR PRO XP ?
Thanks and we do. It’s on turbo rzr page
Hey love the videos buddy! I have a rzr 1000 the clutch is a little wore on the inside like you explained! do you have any recommendations for a belt? 34inch tires mainly mud riding, some trails medium speeds
Jordan Silva we make the best belts on the planet. Shoot me an email about this todd@hunterworks.com
Belts getting glazed over causes it as well
Put one on my 18 900xp ranger and its smooth as silk, Unreal polaris couldnt get it right to begin with.
Thanks for the info. Subbed. Will be online tonight to order me a belt.
Mike Fogle did the belt solve your issue?
My 18 general has done it since new
Now you know why, get our new 92G belt and help it out.
Yes I have xo1000 ranger and I have those problems.. Thank you
Email me about it year miles and tire size todd@hunterworks.com
yah what gmctech said ...brand 900 xp been back to shop still s#cks
I replaced my 2020 xp4 turbo s belt with your hunter works belt and it still has the same issue.
Then it is not a belt, what is the issue? Jerky start?
2016 rzr 579...still have the OEM Polaris Belt... I'm the original owner...bought new....and it's barely starting to have a jerky start when parked for weeks at a time.... probably just the belt stretched over time and wear ...Hunter works vs OEM...what's truly the difference?
Would appreciate any suggestions. 2012 Polaris 800 Razor EFI hesitates at 45-50 mph. 45 is about 6350rpm. Not really a sputter or cough. Repairman just cleaned throttle body and fuel injectors and said idle air circuit was partially open causing a misfire at that speed. None of the work performed solved the issue. One person suggested the primary and secondary cluthes might be fighting each other. Need to get it fixed pretty quick so we can sell it and move, but I want it to be right. I should also mention that it has full power no issues 0-45. No codes, no engine light. Always at that speed only.Thanks. Appreciate anything.
I would not suspect the clutches, they would be fully shifted out at that point. Check fuel pressure at that speed
@@Hunterworks Thank you. I'll let you know what I find out.
@@Hunterworks Thank You for your response. I have some new information on the 2012 Polaris 800 Razor having issues at 45mph.
I was asked if it could go faster than 45mph. Just took it for another test. As usual it hesitates at 45mph. I pushed it on a longer stretch and when it gets to 50mph it stops hesitating. When I get to 55mph it hesitates again. Top speed is 60 mph at a maximum of 6500 rpm.
To obtain codes, one video suggested turning the key off and on 3 times and it will show a code. Didn’t see anything pop up when I tried it. I don’t know if this 800 has the ability to display any codes?
I’d like to include some responses from folks kind enough to offer suggestions to see if it triggers any other ideas pointing to one thing.
The spark plugs were replaced about 1.5 years ago. They were examined recently and found to be good. I still might replace them as that’s a cheaper item. I suppose it could be a bad spark plug wire.. or coil wire. Your thoughts?
Suggestions: fuel pressure check, sounds like fuel pump, spray water on spark plug wires and coil wire, Fuel stabilizer, Belt might be slipping, inspect clutches and belts, don’t think its clutch related, sounds like clutches sticking, check belt for damage, weights in primary clutch are too light, was IAC mechanically stuck open or electrically being opened.
Thanks again. I’m hoping this new information might directly point to something that I will try and tackle on my own. Taking it in is a last resort for me.
I promise, to get back to you once I find the issue!
Thank you kindly. Very much appreciated.
Dave
@@davepo6443 I do not recall top speed on a 800 rzr, been a minute but 6500 is the rev limiter so that is the cutting out you are dealing with, sounds more like a clutch issue now
@@Hunterworks Thank you
Hunter belt fixed my 2017 900 Razor
It helped out somebody, thanks
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
2016 900 Xp ranger when I bought new I complained the lock up was horrible and jerky and seemed like the gear selector linkage wasn’t adjusted as it would not be in the correct spot say if I moved from low to reverse and would grind if I bumped the selector it would fall in gear. Polaris replaced the clutch made it some better hooks up at a lower rpm but still jerks especially under a load at a low rpm, love the utv EXCEPT for those issues. Will your belt help or cure ? Any idea on the linkage ? Should I try and adjust ?
All depends on what is causing it, our belt will be less jerky for sure, cure it 100% no but way better. The Duraclutch mentioned cures it. On the shifting just hard to say a clutch can cause it if not fully releasing.
Got the ranger 900XP 16 model too, got me a duraclutch rides smooth now
Just replaced the belt on my 900s 18' stock belt had 800km on it and definitely felt like slip and grip. New g force belt is in and now feels solid and Jerky again just need to break it in
Thanks found this really helpful i will see if there is an agent in the uk
I have a kioti machron 2017 thats jerky 👎
My 2022 Polaris Ranger Trail Boss was jerky right from the factory. Not a smooth pleasant start at all, looking to fix this asap.
You should simply try our belt for the Ranger XP as it is much thicker than stock is.
@@Hunterworks Thank you for the recommendation.
Thank you so much this fixed my problem.
good video. what if it was jerky when we bought it. i have a 2021 rzr trail premium 900. we bought it brand new. any ideas.
yes, we have a whole video for your model. th-cam.com/video/7QsTRedvxJE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xP2nmqszA7Ks1ysL
I changed the belt of my ranger 800
With a similar market belt then I had difficulties in shifting the gears
I can only shift if the machine is turned of and sitting perfectly horizontal please any advise
Either wrong belt, it needs breaking in or an alignment issue
Do you guys make belts for golf carts? Have a Honda gx630 “Jake’s big block” motor. Jerky when trying to park as well 🤦♂️
sorry we dont
My xp4 highlifter is brand new and it has a slight jerk on at take off
don't ease on gas, just go
Yeah your probably right…I do baby it in take off…ima try that…thanks
I have a 2009 Polaris 800 efi (well it is my parents and they are letting me use it after I had a stroke and I am staying in their 20 year old rv to save money since I can't work yet and use it to go to the laundry) It is having some issues and I wonder if you can help me figure out what it can be? One is it sometimes back fires, the other is sometimes when I put it in gear it jumps a bit but won't go forward or backwards. If I turn it off and try again it will work. It is very jerky at the beginning and then it works fine once driving. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me. Money is tight for both them and me. They are retired blue collar workers.
not sure if I can help out with the backfire issue. Normally that's a exhaust leak but send me an email todd@hunterworks.com and send me the exactly this and I’ll reply to Monday with some links.
@@Hunterworks Done. Thank you!
you are an angel
Neighbors tub is terrible…. I’ll suggest this to him. My old 1988 Kawasaki Mule is butter smooth
What about a Polaris 550 Sportsman? Any special belts for it? Jerky at initial engagement, then it is ok.
Sorry, we only make them for UTV's not ATVs.
Had a belt from high lifter lasted me two years till my mom claimed it and start letting my nephew ride it till the belt tore up and snapped
Hey have a question what in the clutch makes the sxs slow down really fast when you let off the gas???
shoot me an email asking me this along with year and model and miles and tires todd@hunterworks.com don't leave any of that out Todd
I bought a 2020 Polaris Ranger 1000 esp last year but I want to buy a spare belt. What is your suggestion ? Do you ship to Canada? What is the difference between your clutch and Polaris. Thanks so much, Andy from Canada
XP or regular 1000?
Great video. Great producrs.
Thank you
Is there a way to make the belt tighter? For example I have machines that have 8 belts on them. I can adjust them. I was in a ravine in about 3’ of snow & I could smell the belt smoking. Now it slips. I looked at it & it still looks good.
No and you do not want it tighter, would get too hot. email me at todd@hunterworks.com about what you have going on and tell me the vehicle, tires etc and miles
What about when the drives haft is jermimg underneath. Not just constantly spinning. Is that snorkel gear, prop shaft, car has 11k on it
We only know clutching.
wait...so a jerky start is not normal? honest question, I couldn't tell from the video if a jerky start is normal or a problem.
Watch our newer video called jerky start is normal and not normal
My Polaris acts like it has two speed clutch now. I replaced the belt but it didn’t help. Can you give me advice?
Yes, shoot me an email at todd@hunterworks.com and explain morre in detail I need to know the vehicle, miles on it and tire size
Do you have a video that shows how to change the oil chain or oil pump on a 2014 rzr 900 eps?
No. We only do clutching. Sorry
2013 Ranger 900 has this issue. Very annoying and so far there has been no real fix for it.
Yes there is very easy to fix, buy the duraclutch system we have, 100% fix
@@Hunterworks Thank you. I will look into it.
What about the driven clutch..my primary seems fine but the secondary is slipping
They don't slip. Why do you think it's slipping?
How much is the thicker belt for a 1 7 rzr xp1000 in canadian funds???
Lookin to solve a severly bad jerky start. So bad makes a slow ride quite violent.
I do not know the conversion but that bad is not belt, you have a clutching issue
I just picked up a 2002 sportsman 400 with 200 miles on it as it sat in storage I cleaned the carb and it runs like a top but it looks like a brand new belt and I removed the cover because the transmission was constantly turning and I was grinding gears trying to get it into gear . Looks like the belt is riding in the center of the primary but is that a bearing between the sheaves ? Maybe it’s supposed to roll free but is don’t
I am not sure, but I do not think it has a bearing, think that far back the belt is loose enough to allow it to idle in gear. I really only know 08 and newer polaris UTV
@@Hunterworks thanks for the reply. I just found out that is the engine brake bearing and is supposed to move freely only in one direction. If it gets bad it can cause belt tracking issues
I don't understand why nobody carries parts for non xp 2020 rangers
Parts is a wide term, but our reasons on clutching is just one vehicle with this clutch. We are making a belt for it though.
I got a 2016 RZR turbo I started getting the jerky start A hour after I smoked the belt trying to get unstuck I had an extra belt so I threw that on And there was no jerky start anymore
Did the higher temperature stretch the belt out
Is the belt re-usable
I also cleaned it when I installed the new belt And there was some black marks on the clutches
So I’m not sure if just cleaning it would have been enough Since I installed a new belt also
This was a oem belt
Hard to say but at minimum that first belt is toast. If it works fine now run it and throw the bad belt away.
Do you guys make a clutch for a 2013 Ranger 500?
What about when the clutch is grabbing the belt when the accelerator is not applied? What would cause that?
Watch our how to troubleshoot a clutch with a camera, one of the items it covers will tell you after you look at what it tells you
can you please explain how the spider could possibly "back off"? as the force of friction with the belt actually tightens the clutch during driving and acceleration in both forward and reverse. there could possibly be a back off force during deceleration but that force would likely be much lower than acceleration ones.
The force on decel is pretty good and vibrations of the engine. So you speed up tighten, decel loosen and over time that back and forth then engine vibrations turn it out.
The nut some times come off all by itself and there is no force on it all. Not sure the why is important because the only way to fix it is take it apart, and lather it up with 620 loctite.
It does seem hard to believe. I just dissembled a ‘15 1000 primary and was shocked. The spider jam nut was only slightly tight, came of with a spanner wrench and the spider came off by hand. The machine has 3200 miles on it.
good job, thanks
Appreciate it
My clutch marks don’t line up,is that normal,how could I tell if it’s on wrong. 15 rzr 900 trail
x on back and ones on front don't line up normally, the cover, spider and movable sheave have to, to keep in balance
My brand new RS1 has a jerky engagement every now and then. Sometimes, well most of the time it’s very smooth, but every now and then it has a clunky sounding jerky engagement. Is this normal?
Normal
Would it be possible to pull a shim from the back of the secondary clutch to slightly offset the belt alignment for a quicker engagement at lower RPM? Basically adjusting clutch alignment to just before creeping mode?
almost no polaris utv have shims or use shims on the secondary behind them so what is the vehicle in question ?
@@Hunterworks cfmoto 600
@@RydinginStyle72 I can't say what it has but belt alignment will not make it engage sooner or later. Changing the primary spring to a weaker would be best for that but will mess up clutching somewhere elese
Do you also do belts for the 2016 xds turbo? Thanks
Only Can Am is the X3, sorry.
Can you recommend a good second choice as am running nitrous so a good belt is paramount was even thinking about your clutch system to give me a bit more transferable power
@@tonyw2960 We don't have a clutch system for a Can Am. I would say a OEM belt for it since we don't have one
2018 1000 Xp mine has done it from the git go brand new no wear on anything was told by several shop mechanics said it was dew to the square fly weights in the clutch so witch is it are you trying to sell something
What are square flyweights? There are square pucks in the secondary and you need our round rollers so it does not wear it out but that has nothing to do with a jerky start, it has to do with what this video says, nothing else. Dealers are dumb
Your belt for my 2019 ranger xp has eased the jerky start a fair amount, but what would cause a small chirp at low speeds? The chirp disappears around 8 and 10 mph.
The crappy secondary they use has a harmonic noise
Are you talking about the metallic clunk noise when you step on the gas? mine is brand new and dose it.
Benchmark Sam no. When you get about 300 miles on it you will know. Nothing you can do about that noise
2020 polaris rzr 1000 turbo 30 inch tires reverse and low are fine..I'm getting clunking in high at low speeds ! 2629 miles 108.3 for hours..how often should you replace a belt also ? Thanks
you are over due and getting close to new clutch time possibly, life varies, average is 2500-4000 miles
@@Hunterworks thank you
Why no video about belt *???
There is a video about every belt we have, see our channel
Ive got a 2011 rzr 4 800 and the threads are stripped inside the primary clutch. How do I get it off now?
Might can use a thread chaser on them and then use the puller again. How did they get stripped?
OEM clutch?
My 2012 Ranger 800xp has a loud clunk in the rear/clutch/transmission when I put it in gear to accelerate. A lot of play somewhere back there that's going to snap something off eventually. Any ideas?
Normal, just roller swapping sides in the helix
Not sure I understand that. Normal? You mean for its age or is there something you sell that will make for a smoother transition from idle to accelerate? I bought it new and never really noticed it having this much play in it before.
@@roberte.bennett8327 I have a brand new 24 model, actually two of them and they both have it
I messed up and took my primary clutch off without marking both pieces what can I do?
Model and year?
Ok exlpain why my 570 has done this since day one off showroom floor?
probably due to you easing on the gas, just gas on it
Both my primary and secondary are spinning while idling in park is that normal
No email me and I can send you some links to help find it todd@hunterworks.com
I have a rs1 it's like going down hill makes all kinds of noise do they make a different clutch for it or do you think one of your belts would help I do a lot of slow speeds or do you think I need different springs it's a 2018 with 32s on it
We do not offer a kit for it nor clutches, you might have an issue you need to look for, you can use our 2016-20 turbo troubleshooting videos, more or less same clutches. Our belt while not listed for a RS1 is much thicker than stock, works great, go to our site and order any turbo rzr belt. They are all the same here and works great on it
Thank you for the info I will get a turbo belt off you guys and thanks again
@@pete1735 Appreciate that, Todd
On a rzr xp4. Can a slipping belt cause unit to go into limp mode? Thanks in advance
yes but what is causing the slipping belt is the question
Bad spot on the belt more than likely first thing I would do is try a new belt!
Did you watch the video or see the name only?
@@Hunterworks Why?
Nathan Duckeorth why what? What you asking
Thanks dude
Cuz it's a rubber band drivetrain
Such 825i belt replace
How to get that black shaft off on
What?
2021 trail 900 50" belt same as the older model belt? Part #? Brand new and this jerky/clunking at very low speeds is driving me nuts.
Same OE belt, our 900 belt will be better and please change our secondary pucks to rollers. All on our site www.hunterworks.com
@@Hunterworks secondary pucks? So grab the 900 belt and replace the oem rollers?
@@800PooDragon no, has square pucks, find those on our site and read tech article or look on this channel. I will link it
@@800PooDragon here it is th-cam.com/video/g9waiGzelyg/w-d-xo.html
@@Hunterworks the HW-92G is definitely not thicker than the stock belt on 2021 trail 900, how will it improve the clunking?
I have this issue on a Polaris 350 2stroke 4x4 is is that same concept?
To be honest I would not know. Not familiar with that vehicle
Washing new belts in hot soapy water and letting it dry completely , keeping clutch plates clean and doing a proper belt break-in will prevent this from happening ...
Not really true and no need in washing any modern belt, none have any release agent oil on them anymore.