TimesTalks | Chelsea Handler and Gloria Steinem
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 เม.ย. 2017
- Don’t miss this exciting and rare opportunity to see the acerbic and perennially passionate comedian, author and host of Netflix’s eponymous show “Chelsea” (streaming on April 14th) in conversation with writer, feminist, and social and political activist Gloria Steinem. In today’s polarizing political climate where gender, economic and cultural inequities are dividing a nation, be sure to join Handler and Steinem as they engage in a spirited discussion about their personal and professional journeys, Handler’s upcoming show, championing the rights of marginalized communities, and calling for the unification and support of all women.
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I am fan of Chelsea. I like her straight-arrow quality and her genuine awakening in political activism. She inspires me.
Gloria: "I don't believe in God, I believe in people." I don't think she made that quote up herself. But just seeing her and hearing her say that made me think. Gosh what a wonderful woman.
Steinem: If it were up to me, I would not define myself by the absence of something; “theist” is a believer, so with “atheist” you’re defining yourself by the absence of something. I think human beings work on yes, not on no.
The Humanist: So “humanist” is sort of a beautiful term then.
Steinem: Yes, humanist is a great term.
Jennifer Bardi: Do you consider yourself a humanist?
Steinem: Yes, a humanist except that humanism sometimes is not seen as inclusive of spirituality. To me, spirituality is the opposite of religion. It’s the belief that all living things share some value. So I would include the word spiritual just because it feels more inclusive to me. Native Americans do this when they offer thanks to Mother Earth and praise the interconnectedness of “the two-legged and the four, the feathered and the clawed,” and so on. It’s lovely.
The Humanist: So we need a more positive and inclusive term.
Steinem: Yes, because it’s not about not believing. It’s about rejecting a god who looks like the ruling class.
The Humanist: Some people call themselves post-theological, which is kind of a mouthful.
Steinem: It’s kind of great though. I like to say that the last five-to-ten thousand years has been an experiment that failed and it’s now time to declare the first meeting of the post-patriarchal, post-racist, post-nationalist age. So let’s add “post-theological.” Why not?
Believing God or not is a personal choice. We don't need to make value choice for others thinking one is better than the other.
thoroughly enjoyed and inspired. thank you x
19:15, I laughed so hard. Chelsea has such a quick wit!
Love these two women. They compliment each other very well
I enjoyed watching this, but I would have preferred more time given to Ms. Steinem.
I think they complimented one another beautifully. My daughter and I saw Ms. Steinem speak (solo) at a local university recently and though seeing her with "all five senses" was awesome, Handler really energized things here. I was so happy that my daughter (25) invited ME to go see her. Yay! A parenting success story! I did it.
My daughter has friends that she didn't even consider asking to go. Their complacency and lack of passion, baffles us. Daughters of republican parents, they view feminism as much-ado-about-nothing silliness. It's astonishing.
Kevin Hagler I think it was balanced and exactly what it was meant to be. We need to start embracing individual expression and styles.
I love how Chelsea starts drinking vodka within the first few seconds.
Speechless, simply speechless.
Chelsea was very informative, funny... Gloria is a hoot, found interviews to be equal, no C-word comment here.
Very inspiring, if anything... ;*)
Awesome Chelsea 👍🏻👏🏻
Outstanding talk. Thank you.
mick
Wonderful.
Ok , as thought , there are two sides to every thing , extreme and logical , thank you .
So much love and admiration for both of these women! 🙏🏿 BUT, it baffles me that Steinem seems to be so blinked about Clinton: there are very legitimate criticisms of her that have nothing to do with misogyny or being a ‘Bernie Bro’ or some other nonsense. I’m sure there are other women we could and should consider whose policies we are more aligned with, and whose USP wasn’t married into...
yazzz Chelsea :)
The letter 't' in "talks" looks like Trump in profile
If they only wanted Gloria to speak, they would have just had her on here.
I like both women and I don't feel Chelsea was rude at all.
loved it when Chelsea picked up her water and sniffed it like she hoped it was vodka LOL And Gloria is as inspiring now as she was in my teens many moons ago.
Clooney was celebrated as the perfect bachelor and could've lived single all his life, then he married at 50 something and everyone just shrugged their shoulders and moved along; had a woman lived a similar life she would be considered selfish for not settling down earlier to raise a family, rebellious for prolonging her duty to marriage...sure times have progressed but it can still feel like a Jane Austen novel.
More than just that, she'd be called a spinster, old maid with cats and hit the wall. What's even more sad is that criticism a lot of the times comes from women.
Here are some thoughts on Gloria Steinem by leftist political activist Tom Hayden -- from his November 2014 piece in The Nation (Of course, he was dying of cancer by that point, so he figured he had nothing to lose and could finally tell the truth):
"...(Traveling to California in the early 1960s) I spent an exhilarating summer staying in an apartment full of Berkeley radicals. One of the many visitors I met was Donald Hoffman, who represented the National Student Association, which included members of student government and (the University of Michigan's student newspaper, the Michigan) Daily editors that met every summer. He was a bit older than me, a friendly liberal fellow who wanted to make sure that Berkeley students came to that summer’s national convention. He also was a CIA agent, and remained so for many decades.
The editor of the (Michigan) Daily before me, Peter Eckstein, was enlisted by the CIA to direct its recruiting operations, which targeted student activists in Europe who had been attracted to Soviet-sponsored youth festivals. Peter was preceded by another Daily editor, Harry Lunn, who became a lifetime CIA operative in many postings around the world.
In 1962, curious about these youth festivals and eager to see the world, I interviewed as a possible participant in an American (anti-communist) delegation to the Soviet-sponsored Helsinki Youth Festival in Finland, one of several of the era. Their purpose was to confront the communist delegates with a counter-narrative about American democracy and firmly oppose any rapprochement or coexistence between capitalism and communism. Neutralism in the Cold War was considered as being “soft” on Communism.
In the end, I didn’t attend. But I will never forget the smart, attractive woman who interviewed me. A graduate of Smith College, her name was Gloria Steinem. This was one year before she worked at the Playboy Club in New York City and six years before she wrote “A Bunny’s Tale” in Show magazine and (suddenly) described herself as an “active feminist” in 1969.
The CIA’s Harry Lunn, according to Patriotic Betrayal, encouraged Steinem to become “the public face of the Independent Service for Information,” an anti-communist delegation controlled and funded by the CIA, on the Vienna Youth Festival; by early 1959, it had been renamed the Independent Research Service. She was “one of the few women in the NSA-CIA club,” Paget writes, noting that “Steinem, who knowingly cooperated with the CIA, is sensitive today about her work with the Agency.”
Steinem recruited about one hundred Americans into a delegation to confront the 17,000 youth at the 1959 Vienna Youth Festival under the banners of Marxism and national liberation. Her bloc employed dirty tricks to disrupt the proceedings, including distributing anti-communist propaganda to fill a shortage of toilet paper and invading discussion groups to attack communist dogma. Pleased with her work in Vienna, the CIA sent Steinem to lead a similar delegation to Helsinki in 1962, where the CIA courted African students with American jazz and, according to Paget, left “memorable images of Steinem parting the beaded curtains to enter the nightclub as if she was Mata Hari.”
Gloria Steinem. Well connected to the wealthy elite and ruling elite in America -- and a CIA operative since the 1950s.
If only the (completely duped and deceived) women in America knew the truth, huh? At least Tom Hayden, dying of cancer in 2014, knew the truth -- and wrote about it.
Tom Hayden (1939-2016). RIP.
Chelsea Handler is oppressed.
So according to Steinem I, as a man, am showing insecurity and immaturity if I do not vote for a female politician that she endorses? I make no attempt to speak for other men but can say that, no, I didn’t vote for Clinton and her gender had nothing to do with it. The fact that I perceived her as the typical sleazy two-faced politician who is almost preternaturally inauthentic is why, especially when there was another candidate whose values more closely aligned with mine (Jill Stein, Green Party). Lest anyone accuse me of effectively casting a vote for Trump, I live in a safe blue state, Oregon, which I knew Clinton would take handily, and she did.
A common talking point i often hear from feminists (which I agree with btw ) is that women are half of humanity and we should have both halves working in concert together for the betterment of us all. If you are attempting to get men on board with this idea, as I agree should be the case, then talking down to us like this is not the way to get there. We men _do_ have our prides to consider after all. 😉
I really wish Chelsea let Gloria speak more. That's Gloria Fucking Steinem. She is an icon.
I think Gloria is passing the torch and wants Chelsea to be heard too
We need more icons and also the society is large enough for more icons. Otherwise, sticking with one icon is like worshipping an idol. This doesn't mean we don't respect pioneers.
Is that Kathy Griffin?
TheChannel-P NO it isn't
Why the global agenda?? Leave the nation's alone...God is our mighty creator..leave our freedom..we know you turned your back from our living Father..leave the ppl alone
Crappy talk
When white women joined the women's march, many (most?) failed to recognize "...that perhaps the most destructive to that platform [of women's rights] look just like them."
Wow. I am sorry but I am not a part of some collective. My vote is my vote. I am responsible for it and no one else is, nor am I responsible for anyone else's; I am not my fellow women's keeper, white or otherwise.
Still, I have "reached out" to those I know, largely comprised of white women, to entreat them to be more humanitarian, to understand the struggles of others, and certainly to not vote for Trump, etc. What I found was that those who were not going to vote for Hillary were never going to vote for Hillary.
And as much as I hate Trump and as much as I lost a lot of respect for people who voted for him....for many people, race didn't factor into it. Women's rights didn't factor into it. Is that bad? These people apparently had other concerns, as is everyone's right when they vote. Trump supporters and voters were lied to and misguided, but not all Trump voters are bigots. The world is just more complex than that.
Trump supporters are mostly just sick of the Political Correctness, that's what I have come to see. Having been openly opposed to Trump, I am now starting to see him in a different light, he's the most maligned president in history, yet have not shut down free speech, or taken any rights away. In fact the opposite is happening and it's the MSM who are openly opposed to anything Trump does, it's a confusing time.
She didn't say "all WW" but yes she did point out a crucial fact, WW have been the speed bump on the road of progress for women. 59% of WW voted for a sexual predator, mysoginist and racist and that's just the beginning. The majority of the WW supported Brett Kavanaugh, Roy Moore etc...men who've been accused of sexual assault by numerous women and young girls. Yes, WW have historically voted for the party that's against any legislation that supports women. So yes, WW need to look in mirror and take responsibility, WW have never stood w/women. All they have contributed to women's rights is lip service! Maybe that's why WW score highest for depression, lowest for self esteem, highest for the psychiatric disorders, highest for consumption of the psychotropic drugs (anti depressants, anti anxiety). WW are now the fastest dying demographic to suicide, 60% increase in less than 20 years yet that's not MSN anywhere? None of the WM who WW have always supported w/their votes have brought this up, in a way that's saying WW are a casualty and are expendable.
"not all Trump voters are bigots" They are now.