I am a Auto Technician and I bought load pro from the matco dealer and use it and what a tool dam thing is the best, now it stays hook up to my fluke 88, found small corrosion on 3 cars with ground problems. love it
Hi Dan Today I had the opportunity to measure a heavily corroded cable from an electricly powered fork lift. I used the LoadPro and the supplied formulas and calculated a 1.9 Volt drop for an actuall Amperage of 800A. Now I tried to measure the same cable using the PP4 and the PFTest but I did not see ANY serious drop between Battery and Tip Voltage and the indicated resistance was minute. With no formula or any information supplied with the PP4 on what is good and what not, I can not see where the PP4 is a useful competition to what the LoadPro does. Now without the supplied formula from LoadPro I could not have done this either because the cable was a 35mm2 (square mm!!!) and even with a big cut almost 1/3 the way through it did not seem critical when ONLY measured. In reallity it almost rendered the forklift useless. Greetings, Bernhard
I’ve got both load pro and power probe IV they are different beasts. Obviously power probe throws voltage and it’s also good for fuel injector diagnosis load pro is brilliant for testing the complete circuit all the way back to the battery. I don’t think they should even be compared, it’s just not apples and apples. And yes, poking holes in wires can be a bad thing, but I’m sure there are circumstances where it’s absolutely necessary, usually due to time restraints…….. side of the road diagnosis etc……
+Geoff Moores Kind of up to you. Did you see the chart in the back of the manual (between the cardboard in the package). Note the sensitivity - you need to compare your circuit Ω to the resistance Ω - remember Ohm's Law. If an a/c clutch is 4Ω, 2Ω means trouble. However, 2Ω in a 120Ω relay means you'd not be there 'cause it would still work...
In the "real world", sometimes poking a hole in a wire is inevitable. As long as you seal the hole with liquid electrical tape or some other means. Experienced mechanics know what I'm talking about. I'm not going to disassemble half an engine bay just so I can backprobe a connector, time is money.
yea i agree liquid eletrical tape does the trick and to me Dan is just nitpicking at powerprobe now before he made a valid point but now they made a tool better than his he won't stop
+Mark Reyes Except that they ripped me off to make theirs. Theirs isn't better, BTW - read their manual... And, if you truly believe that every guy who pokes 8-10 holes looking for a wire then uses liquid electrical tape to repair all the damage, you're deluded.
Daniel Sullivan Your tool is no doubt a great one to have. I see your point about randomly poking holes looking for the right wire. Any person that employs that method has no business being under the hood. However, probing the right wire when it makes sense, isn't the end of the world if you handle it professionally.
Michael Herbert Qualified people being rational and responsible is one thing. A rare thing. Bottom line - use the tool I developed correctly - and this isn't a problem. As much as people hate hearing me say that - it's true.
Daniel Sullivan Your tool is very useful, and I wish I purchased it sooner. Have you ever thought about sending a free load pro to other popular youtubers so that more people will be exposed to it?
I agree with you Dan that poking holes in wires is not the answer and can lead to lots of problems. However, their is a huge profit motivation to most things nowadays. If a company can show a technique that they know fits into the mentality of the quick fix then it becomes accepted as standard practice. It is like those no doc or no income verification mortgates which became the norm until that system completely failed. The electrical diagnostic skills you have are built around a solid foundation that you had to work hard to build. Working hard and quick profit does not go together.
+Vincent Neri That's why I didn't try to get the case dismissed. I fully intend to go to court and fight the fight. If I don't - I fear no one ever will...
I would not use the power probe for that. Thay have very good tools out there just for thing like that. The power probe is a wonderful tool that can be used for many things and save you lots of time.
+James L I agree that there are features on the PPIV that are interesting. However, many are useless in the diesel world - and the accuracy and effectiveness are far less than perfect. I want guys to understand they're smart, and a meter is the best tool. I have a hard time with Snap-on selling (promoting) a PP as an acceptable substitute for a Fluke. Makes no sense.
I see your point I hate this as well but I bought your product I would like to see more on it this seems to be a helpful tool but I,m not a auto tech just a home mechanic trying to learn an easier way then tearing my car apart to check a part and a lot of your videos talk about another product good or bad that might sell there product at a lot higher price I'm sorry I afended you you seem to have worked hard to make this tool I just wanted to learn to use it fully
+Al Wilson No problem. I understand. I stopped doing videos a while ago BECAUSE of this nonsense. I sued Snap-on and now all hell broke loose. I'm about to try and raise a little money to help me pay for more videos, but I'd rather do dental work on an alligator than ask for money....
we do stereo and alarm installations people often think of us as the biggest hacks in the industry me and many technicians like me would not do that maybe that would be useful for Best Buy technicians but for real technician that's unacceptable
I've actually owned a power probe for the last 6 years and recently purchased the loadpro and I have to say that I would actually recommend the loadpro because of the simple fact it's really simple to use and it tests for the main faults in an electrical system which are opens, shorts and high resistance something the power probe lacks. I've seen so many people use the power probe and actually short circuited PCM and other sensitive control modules. it's true as a many flat rate techs I've been guilty of poking holes in wires not that ford motor company likes that or anything they actually say never to poke holes in wire looms.
Nothing bugs me more than idiots poking into wires. The last place I worked, the lead mechanic would do it all the time with a sharp-probed test light. We had a heated argument one day when he told me multi-meters lie to you. The next day I requested a transfer to a different mine-site!
Hi Dan I am a little indifferent about the whole thing, not about the hole poking, but where the PP4 infringes your patent? I own and use Your LoadPro and a PP4. I always use the LoadPro first since it is small and quick to work with, but there are instances where I need to roll out the long cables from the PP4 when I need a "known good power or ground" under or behind the car for some tests. My advice is: You may go to court as long as you want against those guys BUT to win your customers make useful videos like "testing circuits from the relay base" because that showed me how to really use the LoadPro to better my work. This video sells the LoadPro as a winner. On the PP4 there are some useless features, like the injector test. People love useless features, actually all the thing tells You is, that there is control from the ECU. In reality You need a Picoscope to identify any problems with an injector, thats it. Please explaint to me how the PP4 loads the circuit? No button? Bernhard
+Daniel Sullivan Dear Mr. Sullivan, checking what PFT means did not produce any "positive" results. You might have missed that I am a loyal customer of yours and have recommanded the LoadPro and taken several LoadPros to my friends here in Germany. My response was all in favor of Your product, but it appears that this whole patent infringement law suit blinds You towards Your supporter and customers. If You keep this attitude up, the little fat guy from PP will run You dry. I really hate what I see here, get up and sell the LoadPro and stop this selfdestructive attitude. Meaning well, Bernhard (still a supporter)
+Daniel Sullivan Ok, sorry I got a bit upset because it sounded bad, just disregard. But how would that actually apply a load without pushing a switch? Is the load on all the time. Again, pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaase do more videos like the relay testing from the base, this is where the LoadPro shines. But we don't have enough routine using it yet. Once people understand it's application better, they will love using it. Thanks, Bernhard
Dan, I've heard of self healing paint finishes... Is there such a thing as self healing wire insulation that has been violated by a sharp tool??? Nah....
Dan,thanks for passing on you knowledge for free!!! I have learned a lot. I have your test leads and your books. To all the dumb asses; throw away your P.O.S. power probes, learn how to properly diagnos electrical systems, and quit poking holes in the fucking wires,there is no reason for it, be professionals!
What's the OSHA requirement on a nicked electrical cord? No good! Would a residential electrical job pass inspection with a hole in the wiring? No, it's considered a fire hazard. Those of you who would like to poke holes in my truck wiring stay the hell away from me. Good day.
Very interesting and informative. maybe concentrate on sharing more of ur skill that's what we want as it's invaluable, instead of slamming all other products.
not sure but I'm thinking that the power probe iv would be using the voltage drop test in the power feed mode to do what the load pro does. Not sure its the same being your not hitting it with voltage ? Seems like it would be telling you the same thing only in a different way. I do see his point as far as poking a wire but if all else failed and I had to poke one I would get out the old liquid electrical tape ........ ya ya I know but ya gotta do what ya gotta do
+Daniel Sullivan ya I know what your thinking but as it looks to me being they are really doing it a different way and their unit does have to have cables hooked to the battery to supply power which you don't as you point out in your video. Their not getting the answer to the problem the same way. Now if you are going by the idea that they are trying to solve the same problem and that your patent should stop them from trying to get to the same solution even tho they are doing it a different way ....????? I guess its just a question of which is the better mouse trap. I know you have done comparisons of the load pro to an older power probe and now one to a power probe iv but that's in the ppect mode which I don't think is any same comparison to what the load pro is really showing either. I think that is more for telling exactly where on the circuit a break is, not just what circuit has a problem. yes it does show them poking wholes in wires to do it but then that's not what your comparing it to right ???????? Show the load pro in comparison to their power feed test mode. It looks to me as if that is closer comparison as to apples to apples even tho ....... they are not the same way of getting the answer to the same problem they are both trying to solve. I may be totally in left field as to that comparison ....... sure I'm not as smart as you are. I'm just trying to see a true comparison being I have not dog in this fight as to who did or did not break a patent. I just don't see a fair comparison of getting the answer to the problem being they both do it a different way. You could if you really want to ...... its up to you. just my thoughts for what its worth
dcbigsky I understand your point, and you're actually arguing what Power Probe is arguing - but - you have to remember that they're not applying a load to a live circuit by pushing current from ground to positive.The live circuit is turned on - "switched" - by the PPIV, and current flows through a "load". The answer is in volts (it HAS to be in volts - AxΩ=V) but they calibrated their tool in ohms. It's a trick of language - the circuitry does the same thing (in my opinion)...
+omgffsification if you only think only steel corrode, better think again "Copper corrosion is the corrosion of materials made of copper or copper alloys. With exposure to atmosphere, copper oxidizes, causing bright copper surfaces to tarnish. After a few years, this tarnish gradually changes to dark brown or black, and finally to green.Copper corrodes at negligible rates in unpolluted air, water and deaerated non-oxidizing acids. However, it is susceptible to more rapid attack in oxidizing acids, oxidizing heavy-metal salts, sulfur, ammonia, and some sulfur and ammonia compounds."
+omgffsification I think - again - you're being defensive because you feel attacked - assuming you spent them $$$ to own the tool(s). I couldn't care less what you bought - I'm offended that these tools are still sold, and if you choose you use them, it's likely because you were taught that wire piercing is okay. As for your comments about corrosion - they're just ignorant. Feel free to rationalize your actions, but ANY metal (except gold) will corrode and ANY damage to wiring will eventually result in serious danger and YOU will reap the crap when the vehicle comes back and you can't find the problem... Ultimately - what is more important to you - your income or your integrity?
omgffsification Oh - sorry. We all forgot about this discussion because it's so silly. We have nothing to prove to you. If you were a tech you'd get it. Since you're a troll, you can only see your muddy feet.
I don,t poke holes in wires you have a great product why dog out someone else people just need to hear your facts to choose the right product for them read your book in 2 hours would of like to have seen some real life troubleshooting not talking about a product you don,t sell
+Al Wilson You do realize that this company actively teaches techs to damage wiring as part of a "diagnostic" procedure. This isn't diagnostics - it's vandalism. You do realize that this is NOT acceptable in 2016. I will continue to point out the sheer stupidity of the PowerProbe, the sheer stupidity of the people who sell this POS, and the sadness of the people who are scared enough to want to buy a tool that someone promises will solve all of their problems. I teach - my videos teach - all of them. Some things are good - some things are bad. If I tell you not to smoke around a battery because it can kill you, is that wrong? If I tell you not to poke holes in insulation, is that wrong? If I tell you not to drink wood alcohol, is that being rude to the manufacturer? Get a clue - the world MUST change - and unless someone shows up to this fight with some seriously polished balls, this shit will continue. Sorry - this is the way it is.
Okay I 100% disagree with poking wires!!! That is the technicians bad choice and he better be cutting and soldering with shrink wrap. oh wait most automotives and parts in a capitolist society are "DISPOSABLE" for you disposable auto mechanics comments. But after reading Bernhard List comment about Dan Sullivan going to court over Patent of LOADpro with Powerprobe. Is this True???? If so that is rediculous, supid, ignorant on whoever has got thier panties in a bunch, part! They are completely different products that do completely different things. Sure throw all your money away to the lawyers. In my own experience as a Drilling Rig Tech and a Heavy Equipment tech. I herd of the power probe 1 long before Loadpro. When the retired snap on guy introduced to me to the power probe 1. I laughed lol. What doesn't it do that I can't do with what I already have? A everyday 100ft(I need long for rigs and heavy dtuff)extension cord(wires), battery clamps on one end and 2 probes with light bulbs parallel and a quality fluke DMM. Nothing but a switch in a convenient package. Then the tire guy(of all people) out of nowhere introduced me to GTC short and open finder FF310. Now let me tell ya that has been the biggest time saver yet finding opens and shorts in long(somtimes 100Ft) bundled wires with out any connections or poking or cutting any wires. Then I hear about the Loadpro and I laughed. What does it got that I don't already have? A DMM with a selection of resistors. A convenient package with a switch! Okay so my tool box was stolen and I recently bought the powerprobe IV, ECT2000, loadpro and a fluke DMM. Just for convenience. I kind of wish I never bothered with the ECT2000 and got the GTC FF310, but time will tell. I still going to have to buy or make extension cords with powerprobe stuff, but is the ect2000 be any better than GTC FF310? Either way, all in all they all do completely different things in different applications. I do admire Dan's way of putting electrical into simplest of terms even the dumbest mechanic can learn. Information is more valuable than products. How do you patent information? For example years ago in school I made a graph for series circuits and one for parallel with some funny saying to remember the letters like in music EGBDF = Every good boy deserves fudge. I don't have to remember any of OHM's law or kirchoff's law because whatever the question is I can prove to myself with my graphs, writing(in my head even) a quick schematic and doing the math. How do you patent 2 simple graph's that fit on a single piece of paper? You don't you just tell your friends to help make learning electrical easier.
I am a Auto Technician and I bought load pro from the matco dealer and use it and what a tool dam thing is the best, now it stays hook up to my fluke 88, found small corrosion on 3 cars with ground problems. love it
I think every Automotive tech should have both the power probe and the Loadpro. Both great tools
Hi Dan
Today I had the opportunity to measure a heavily corroded cable from an electricly powered fork lift. I used the LoadPro and the supplied formulas and calculated a 1.9 Volt drop for an actuall Amperage of 800A. Now I tried to measure the same cable using the PP4 and the PFTest but I did not see ANY serious drop between Battery and Tip Voltage and the indicated resistance was minute. With no formula or any information supplied with the PP4 on what is good and what not, I can not see where the PP4 is a useful competition to what the LoadPro does. Now without the supplied formula from LoadPro I could not have done this either because the cable was a 35mm2 (square mm!!!) and even with a big cut almost 1/3 the way through it did not seem critical when ONLY measured. In reallity it almost rendered the forklift useless.
Greetings,
Bernhard
I’ve got both load pro and power probe IV
they are different beasts. Obviously power probe throws voltage and it’s also good for fuel injector diagnosis load pro is brilliant for testing the complete circuit all the way back to the battery.
I don’t think they should even be compared, it’s just not apples and apples.
And yes, poking holes in wires can be a bad thing, but I’m sure there are circumstances where it’s absolutely necessary, usually due to time restraints…….. side of the road diagnosis etc……
The guy who said copper doesnt corrode must not work on anything
Dan, just bought your loadpro..great bit of kit...What's the exceptable voltage drop when you press the load pro button.
+Geoff Moores Kind of up to you. Did you see the chart in the back of the manual (between the cardboard in the package). Note the sensitivity - you need to compare your circuit Ω to the resistance Ω - remember Ohm's Law. If an a/c clutch is 4Ω, 2Ω means trouble. However, 2Ω in a 120Ω relay means you'd not be there 'cause it would still work...
In the "real world", sometimes poking a hole in a wire is inevitable. As long as you seal the hole with liquid electrical tape or some other means. Experienced mechanics know what I'm talking about. I'm not going to disassemble half an engine bay just so I can backprobe a connector, time is money.
yea i agree liquid eletrical tape does the trick and to me Dan is just nitpicking at powerprobe now before he made a valid point but now they made a tool better than his he won't stop
+Mark Reyes Except that they ripped me off to make theirs. Theirs isn't better, BTW - read their manual... And, if you truly believe that every guy who pokes 8-10 holes looking for a wire then uses liquid electrical tape to repair all the damage, you're deluded.
Daniel Sullivan Your tool is no doubt a great one to have. I see your point about randomly poking holes looking for the right wire. Any person that employs that method has no business being under the hood. However, probing the right wire when it makes sense, isn't the end of the world if you handle it professionally.
Michael Herbert Qualified people being rational and responsible is one thing. A rare thing. Bottom line - use the tool I developed correctly - and this isn't a problem. As much as people hate hearing me say that - it's true.
Daniel Sullivan Your tool is very useful, and I wish I purchased it sooner. Have you ever thought about sending a free load pro to other popular youtubers so that more people will be exposed to it?
I agree with you Dan that poking holes in wires is not the answer and can lead to lots of problems. However, their is a huge profit motivation to most things nowadays. If a company can show a technique that they know fits into the mentality of the quick fix then it becomes accepted as standard practice. It is like those no doc or no income verification mortgates which became the norm until that system completely failed. The electrical diagnostic skills you have are built around a solid foundation that you had to work hard to build. Working hard and quick profit does not go together.
+Vincent Neri That's why I didn't try to get the case dismissed. I fully intend to go to court and fight the fight. If I don't - I fear no one ever will...
+Daniel Sullivan Dan: Brett here. (An original model TESLITE customer). What's current status of case?
Chaborgnik Ruski Still waiting...
Can we have a video on Multiplexing Dan
your rite I would but I would direct my efforts in promoting my product as yours is obviously superior, keep up the good work.
I would not use the power probe for that. Thay have very good tools out there just for thing like that. The power probe is a wonderful tool that can be used for many things and save you lots of time.
+James L I agree that there are features on the PPIV that are interesting. However, many are useless in the diesel world - and the accuracy and effectiveness are far less than perfect. I want guys to understand they're smart, and a meter is the best tool. I have a hard time with Snap-on selling (promoting) a PP as an acceptable substitute for a Fluke. Makes no sense.
If you would poke into a airplane harness wire bundle I WOULD PUSH YOU OUT THE DAMN BOMB BAY DOOR..........
Radio Shack is permanently closed. Can you show us your buzzer set-up?
I see your point I hate this as well but I bought your product I would like to see more on it this seems to be a helpful tool but I,m not a auto tech just a home mechanic trying to learn an easier way then tearing my car apart to check a part and a lot of your videos talk about another product good or bad that might sell there product at a lot higher price I'm sorry I afended you you seem to have worked hard to make this tool I just wanted to learn to use it fully
+Al Wilson No problem. I understand. I stopped doing videos a while ago BECAUSE of this nonsense. I sued Snap-on and now all hell broke loose. I'm about to try and raise a little money to help me pay for more videos, but I'd rather do dental work on an alligator than ask for money....
Sorry, but I am not a native english speaker and don't understand that abbreviation. Help please.
we do stereo and alarm installations people often think of us as the biggest hacks in the industry me and many technicians like me would not do that maybe that would be useful for Best Buy technicians but for real technician that's unacceptable
Vandalism is when your German while looting and sacking Rome in 401 AD.
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@@TxRealtorSA This guy gets it.
I've actually owned a power probe for the last 6 years and recently purchased the loadpro and I have to say that I would actually recommend the loadpro because of the simple fact it's really simple to use and it tests for the main faults in an electrical system which are opens, shorts and high resistance something the power probe lacks. I've seen so many people use the power probe and actually short circuited PCM and other sensitive control modules. it's true as a many flat rate techs I've been guilty of poking holes in wires not that ford motor company likes that or anything they actually say never to poke holes in wire looms.
Nothing bugs me more than idiots poking into wires. The last place I worked, the lead mechanic would do it all the time with a sharp-probed test light. We had a heated argument one day when he told me multi-meters lie to you. The next day I requested a transfer to a different mine-site!
Hi Dan
I am a little indifferent about the whole thing, not about the hole poking, but where the PP4 infringes your patent? I own and use Your LoadPro and a PP4. I always use the LoadPro first since it is small and quick to work with, but there are instances where I need to roll out the long cables from the PP4 when I need a "known good power or ground" under or behind the car for some tests. My advice is: You may go to court as long as you want against those guys BUT to win your customers make useful videos like "testing circuits from the relay base" because that showed me how to really use the LoadPro to better my work. This video sells the LoadPro as a winner. On the PP4 there are some useless features, like the injector test. People love useless features, actually all the thing tells You is, that there is control from the ECU. In reality You need a Picoscope to identify any problems with an injector, thats it. Please explaint to me how the PP4 loads the circuit? No button?
Bernhard
+Bernhard List PFT
+Daniel Sullivan
Dear Mr. Sullivan, checking what PFT means did not produce any "positive" results.
You might have missed that I am a loyal customer of yours and have recommanded the LoadPro and taken several LoadPros to my friends here in Germany. My response was all in favor of Your product, but it appears that this whole patent infringement law suit blinds You towards Your supporter and customers. If You keep this attitude up, the little fat guy from PP will run You dry. I really hate what I see here, get up and sell the LoadPro and stop this selfdestructive attitude.
Meaning well,
Bernhard (still a supporter)
+Bernhard List PFT is the "Power Feed test" the PP4 does. It's a renamed ripoff of what I do with the LOADpro.
+Daniel Sullivan
Ok, sorry I got a bit upset because it sounded bad, just disregard.
But how would that actually apply a load without pushing a switch?
Is the load on all the time.
Again, pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaase do more videos like the relay testing from the base, this is where the LoadPro shines. But we don't have enough routine using it yet. Once people understand it's application better, they will love using it.
Thanks, Bernhard
Dan,
I've heard of self healing paint finishes...
Is there such a thing as self healing wire insulation that has been violated by a sharp tool???
Nah....
Dan,thanks for passing on you knowledge for free!!! I have learned a lot. I have your test leads and your books. To all the dumb asses; throw away your P.O.S. power probes, learn how to properly diagnos electrical systems, and quit poking holes in the fucking wires,there is no reason for it, be professionals!
that is possibly the worst idea nothing likes corrosion more than a hole in a wire
What's the OSHA requirement on a nicked electrical cord? No good!
Would a residential electrical job pass inspection with a hole in the wiring? No, it's considered a fire hazard.
Those of you who would like to poke holes in my truck wiring stay the hell away from me. Good day.
Very interesting and informative. maybe concentrate on sharing more of ur skill that's what we want as it's invaluable, instead of slamming all other products.
+Kevin Marriott If a company had stolen your patent I'm pretty sure you'd feel differently.
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not sure but I'm thinking that the power probe iv would be using the voltage drop test in the power feed mode to do what the load pro does. Not sure its the same being your not hitting it with voltage ? Seems like it would be telling you the same thing only in a different way. I do see his point as far as poking a wire but if all else failed and I had to poke one I would get out the old liquid electrical tape ........ ya ya I know but ya gotta do what ya gotta do
+dcbigsky If you read my patent, you'll see the relationship. It's there - and in my opinion they're infringing.
+Daniel Sullivan ya I know what your thinking but as it looks to me being they are really doing it a different way and their unit does have to have cables hooked to the battery to supply power which you don't as you point out in your video. Their not getting the answer to the problem the same way. Now if you are going by the idea that they are trying to solve the same problem and that your patent should stop them from trying to get to the same solution even tho they are doing it a different way ....????? I guess its just a question of which is the better mouse trap. I know you have done comparisons of the load pro to an older power probe and now one to a power probe iv but that's in the ppect mode which I don't think is any same comparison to what the load pro is really showing either. I think that is more for telling exactly where on the circuit a break is, not just what circuit has a problem. yes it does show them poking wholes in wires to do it but then that's not what your comparing it to right ???????? Show the load pro in comparison to their power feed test mode. It looks to me as if that is closer comparison as to apples to apples even tho ....... they are not the same way of getting the answer to the same problem they are both trying to solve. I may be totally in left field as to that comparison ....... sure I'm not as smart as you are. I'm just trying to see a true comparison being I have not dog in this fight as to who did or did not break a patent. I just don't see a fair comparison of getting the answer to the problem being they both do it a different way. You could if you really want to ...... its up to you. just my thoughts for what its worth
dcbigsky I understand your point, and you're actually arguing what Power Probe is arguing - but - you have to remember that they're not applying a load to a live circuit by pushing current from ground to positive.The live circuit is turned on - "switched" - by the PPIV, and current flows through a "load". The answer is in volts (it HAS to be in volts - AxΩ=V) but they calibrated their tool in ohms. It's a trick of language - the circuitry does the same thing (in my opinion)...
dcbigsky PS - The ECT mode has nothing to do with my patent - it's the hole-poking that's important in this video...
no matter how small the hole, it will still get corroded. that why i hate seeing hole in wiring they are pain in the ass
+omgffsification if you only think only steel corrode, better think again
"Copper corrosion is the corrosion of materials made of copper or copper alloys. With exposure to atmosphere, copper oxidizes, causing bright copper surfaces to tarnish. After a few years, this tarnish gradually changes to dark brown or black, and finally to green.Copper corrodes at negligible rates in unpolluted air, water and deaerated non-oxidizing acids. However, it is susceptible to more rapid attack in oxidizing acids, oxidizing heavy-metal salts, sulfur, ammonia, and some sulfur and ammonia compounds."
+omgffsification I think - again - you're being defensive because you feel attacked - assuming you spent them $$$ to own the tool(s). I couldn't care less what you bought - I'm offended that these tools are still sold, and if you choose you use them, it's likely because you were taught that wire piercing is okay. As for your comments about corrosion - they're just ignorant. Feel free to rationalize your actions, but ANY metal (except gold) will corrode and ANY damage to wiring will eventually result in serious danger and YOU will reap the crap when the vehicle comes back and you can't find the problem... Ultimately - what is more important to you - your income or your integrity?
omgffsification Oh - sorry. We all forgot about this discussion because it's so silly. We have nothing to prove to you. If you were a tech you'd get it. Since you're a troll, you can only see your muddy feet.
I don,t poke holes in wires you have a great product why dog out someone else people just need to hear your facts to choose the right product for them read your book in 2 hours would of like to have seen some real life troubleshooting not talking about a product you don,t sell
+Al Wilson You do realize that this company actively teaches techs to damage wiring as part of a "diagnostic" procedure. This isn't diagnostics - it's vandalism. You do realize that this is NOT acceptable in 2016. I will continue to point out the sheer stupidity of the PowerProbe, the sheer stupidity of the people who sell this POS, and the sadness of the people who are scared enough to want to buy a tool that someone promises will solve all of their problems. I teach - my videos teach - all of them. Some things are good - some things are bad. If I tell you not to smoke around a battery because it can kill you, is that wrong? If I tell you not to poke holes in insulation, is that wrong? If I tell you not to drink wood alcohol, is that being rude to the manufacturer? Get a clue - the world MUST change - and unless someone shows up to this fight with some seriously polished balls, this shit will continue. Sorry - this is the way it is.
Okay I 100% disagree with poking wires!!! That is the technicians bad choice and he better be cutting and soldering with shrink wrap. oh wait most automotives and parts in a capitolist society are "DISPOSABLE" for you disposable auto mechanics comments. But after reading Bernhard List comment about Dan Sullivan going to court over Patent of LOADpro with Powerprobe. Is this True???? If so that is rediculous, supid, ignorant on whoever has got thier panties in a bunch, part! They are completely different products that do completely different things. Sure throw all your money away to the lawyers. In my own experience as a Drilling Rig Tech and a Heavy Equipment tech. I herd of the power probe 1 long before Loadpro. When the retired snap on guy introduced to me to the power probe 1. I laughed lol. What doesn't it do that I can't do with what I already have? A everyday 100ft(I need long for rigs and heavy dtuff)extension cord(wires), battery clamps on one end and 2 probes with light bulbs parallel and a quality fluke DMM. Nothing but a switch in a convenient package. Then the tire guy(of all people) out of nowhere introduced me to GTC short and open finder FF310. Now let me tell ya that has been the biggest time saver yet finding opens and shorts in long(somtimes 100Ft) bundled wires with out any connections or poking or cutting any wires. Then I hear about the Loadpro and I laughed. What does it got that I don't already have? A DMM with a selection of resistors. A convenient package with a switch! Okay so my tool box was stolen and I recently bought the powerprobe IV, ECT2000, loadpro and a fluke DMM. Just for convenience. I kind of wish I never bothered with the ECT2000 and got the GTC FF310, but time will tell. I still going to have to buy or make extension cords with powerprobe stuff, but is the ect2000 be any better than GTC FF310? Either way, all in all they all do completely different things in different applications. I do admire Dan's way of putting electrical into simplest of terms even the dumbest mechanic can learn. Information is more valuable than products. How do you patent information? For example years ago in school I made a graph for series circuits and one for parallel with some funny saying to remember the letters like in music EGBDF = Every good boy deserves fudge. I don't have to remember any of OHM's law or kirchoff's law because whatever the question is I can prove to myself with my graphs, writing(in my head even) a quick schematic and doing the math. How do you patent 2 simple graph's that fit on a single piece of paper? You don't you just tell your friends to help make learning electrical easier.
+Shane Szigli I got the patent. They infringed. I defended it. Say what you will - it's my right and privilege. You're wrong - sorry.