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- Today we go over one of my favorite sonic games and rank it...Sonic CD! Also hope the mic is better :) Hope you enjoyed it and thanks for watching..let me know what you thought! Enjoy the Sonic CD Retrospective!
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Introduction: 0:00
Gameplay & Definitive Way to Play: 3:23
Zones: 12:32
Special Stages: 34:14
Music: 36:20
Tier Placement: 38:30
Sources:
sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_t...
www.infoplease.com/year/1992
vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic
info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_...
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Videos Used:
Boss Fight Database - Sonic Forces: Metal Sonic Boss Fight #5
• Sonic Forces: Metal So...
Retro Master - Sonic CD - Secret Unused 8th Special Stage
• Sonic CD - Secret Unus...
seanieb64- Japanese Sonic CD Commercial from Sonic Jam [Perfect Rip]
• Japanese Sonic CD Comm...
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Yeah CD is great. It's the most unapologetically 90's Sonic game and it's a great reminder of the era he was born in. And thlse animated cutscenes, ooh baby
Hey thanks for watching and I 100% agree, it’s juiced up with 90’s flare all around. About the cutscenes, I saw on TH-cam someone is working on an AI up scaling on it and from what I remember it looked gorgeous. I’ll try to find it
Here ya go: th-cam.com/video/Z00csGk1pEE/w-d-xo.html
There’s a 1080p 4K one but honestly the 720p looks better to me for some reason
@@Eldarin thanks for letting me know
Finally a TH-camr that isn't saying this game is bad and the worst classic game, I love this game and nobody seems to share that opinion, this review definitely pays justice to this amazing game.
Also I also prefer the us ost except for stardust speedway and metallic madness
I’m so happy to hear you enjoyed it! Honestly CD would be my favorite out of the classic games straight up but 3K is just SO excellent it barely etched it out for me. Either way CD is amazing!
AVGN called it the best sonic game! So your not alone
The worst one is 1. not bad but it's obviously the roughest and least sonic like. It lacks the speed with zones made deliberately as a pace breaker and it has a weird difficulty spike.
Yeah i don’t fully understand the dislike of CD. Playing through the Win95 version as a kid I loved the concept and execution. Seeing the different time periods and level of detail, some of the changes over the passage of time (e.g. Tidal Tempest’s water level, broken down badniks). Its clear a lot of thought and passion went into the game. I loved it growing up with the US soundtrack and I was amazed to find that the songs on the Sonic Screensaver release were actually the Japanese soundtrack and fit the past themes like a glove. The only downside of it in my view was the different spin dash wish was updated anyway,
What if it actually is pretty bad?
CD had a weird changing relationship with the franchises fans. First it was this almost totally obscure thing, then it became like this cult classic that people claimed was secretly the best one, and now it has this reputation as actually the worst of the classic series. I think it’s current reputation is an overreaction to that infamous IGN video where they claimed Sonic was never really good. One of the people in that video claimed actually that there is a good Sonic game and the one he chose was CD. I think fans of the franchise don’t seem to understand that if you fundamentally don’t like these games much, CD is at least the most interesting aesthetically and mechanically from an outsider game critics perspective. It feels almost like the “art house” Sonic if that makes sense. Fans have a certain expectation as to what these games should be and when hearing that IGN critic they found it easy to scoff at and dismiss the game alongside his comments other than it’s music. I’m one of those people who still holds it in high regard.
"Sega was working on- no, not another dead in the water console, but the Sega CD" gets me every time
See it’s funny because I kinda realized this joke had double meaning since well...the CD itself kinda bombed lmfao. Super happy to hear you enjoyed the video, thank you so much for watching :))
A dead in the water hardware addon :3
Sonic CD is like Game Apologist says "more of Sonic 1's Green Hill". Level design is great for exploration but the best thing about this game is it's amazing music. If the past tracks weren't PCM, the would be no game and only music (about 85-90% of disc space are music files). Ironic that Sonic Team from Japan went incognito to USA to see what music do they like, made that into Sonic CD and Americans changed the entire OST because they were tired of music from the 90's. Both soundtracks are equally good. I really like the exploration aspect because it makes the game what it is. Without it Sonic CD would be a bland game. Out of all Classic games, I played this one the most and it sure is my 2nd favourite Sonic game (1st is S3&K). My final rating is S/S+.
That's interesting about how they purposely made the tracks PCM to reduce space...when I was researching for my script I couldn't find why they made only the past tracks PCM...interesting! I agree the exploration is the big standout for CD but I feel it gives you enough to keep exploring and not just rush to the exit which is why I had a blast with it. It's also been my most played out of the classics too as there's so much to go back to. I'm currently playing thru 3K and working on the script for that one so that will be up in the near future!
@@Eldarin It also works out thematically since the pcm was considered older hardware I the Sega CD, so using it to contrast the past period from the rest of the game is a great compromise.
Sonic CD was probably my first real introduction into the mainline Classic set of games as a kid, and to this day it’s one of my favorite entries in the series. The art direction in this game is my go to for the Classic era, particularly the Bad Futures(which should have been used as an inspiration for Sonic Forces’ zones but whatever). If I could best describe it, it’s like playing through an episode of the SatAm cartoon.
This is just a go to Sonic game to relax with and have fun.
Favorite Sonic CD video btw.
CD was what really sold me on the classic games personally! I too love the art and just general vibe this game gives off. It really means alot to me that this is your favorite CD video also, thank you so much for watching (also sorry for the delayed response :))
The fact that green hill in forces doesn't look anything like palmtree panic bad future is just such missed potetional. Forces environments look bland and ugly.
I’ve gained a lot of respect for you. Not just because you you praised the US soundtrack (although I completely disagree with the US bad future and Stardust Speedway tracks being “worse”). But because you didn’t ignorantly bash the other soundtrack like many of those who prefer the JP soundtrack do.
Also, I don’t care what anyone says. I prefer the US Stardust Speedway Bad Future over the JP version. The Sonic Generations version of the US SSBF ruined the feel of the track.
What about the good future verison of the US? So underrated.
my biggest regret was not getting the game’s ost on vinyl. a repress would be the equivalent of the 2nd coming of christ
I absolutely LOVE Peel-Out, this is by far my favorite move. Yes its hazardous but whatever, it's really hype.
I agree! It’s such an awesome move, thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed!
my favorite game of all time
Sonic CD has a few flaws but dang it's good great review!
CD is so awesome and the atmosphere and just feel of it is still something I don't think has been captured again in the franchise imo! Thanks for the kind words and nice profile picture also!
@@Eldarin agree
Sonic CD was masterfully crafted, and i Considered Junio Sonic( The Version of Sonic in the animations) to he the *TRUE* Sonic, since it was the only animated version of the blue hero that was included in a game.
God, I love sonic cd so much! I love the peel out and the special stages and the opening animation, and the music, and the sprites so much! It was the first sonic game I ever played!
Thats so awesome and I 100% agree!!
im super nostoljic for sonic CD. it was my first sonic game and i played it over and over and over again.
I have had a blast with it! I plan to go back and get all the achievements in it eventually. The mix of the atmosphere, music, controls and level design really offer something unique in the franchise that I LOVE. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed :)
I wish they gave a cartoon of the opening cinematics it's an untapped gold mine
Dude I know that would be amazing! the animation in that scene is GOREGOUS even in todays standards!
The OVA is close to there.
You can destroy badniks if you're running with the time travel sparkles activated.
I didnt know that! Thanks for the heads up and for watching the video :)
the MMZ BF now is scaring me with "you cant do anything, so don't even try"
Also how it says he wants him dead or alive which when I was playing this and heard that was like...hold up what😳 Thanks for watching!!
Hey, about Quartz Quadrant, the soundtracks u said that was you favorites... they're both japanese soundtracks, that got me laughing ngl
*facepalm* welp too late now xD Oh well, hey if anything its just me doubling down on how good QQ's JP tracks are bahahaha. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@Eldarin it's just that the US soundtrack doesn't have past versions, both soundtracks use the Japanese version
I love Sonic CD, it's my favourite Sonic game! Also great video!
by far my fav sonic game. it's so good. underrated in my friend group for sure.
I agree! CD is such an amazing game in my opinion and gets slept on a lot! Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed!!
the studio that animated the sonic CD intro was JUNIO studio that worked on it 9 hard months with poor work conditions
Do you know of any vids/articles on this? I've only recently learned about who even made it!
@@tatertot64 i did not found the original tweet but here a screenshot of it preview.redd.it/fx2eg6iwp0751.png?width=584&format=png&auto=webp&s=44f00a4e9d0a444436531c196ac7379013170888
Amy looks so cute in cd
Amy looks cute anywhere
;)
24:23 The past tracks are all from the Japanese soundtrack though
Yeah I realized that after I uploaded it, nonetheless the JP Ost is fantastic! So interesting to me how different yet great but the JP and US OSTs are!
thank god you realized it I was getting the nerves honestly 😅@@Eldarin
13:00 Dunno if someone else has pointed this out already, but this is actually a giant loop, seen from a somewhat different perspective. You'll notice how at one point the background is actually reversed to create that effect
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this or if you've already found out, but the Super Peel-Out actually gives you a brief moment of invulnerability upon using it.
I didn't know that! The more ya know :D Thanks for watching also :))
In muy opinion Sonic CD Is good for setting a tone and having great themes and overalll being so athsteticly pleasing. The gameplay and level design isnt to good but everything else. "gives chef kiss"
The vibe of CD is unmatched from really any of the sonic games, it’s such a weird vibe! Thanks for watching :)
@@Eldarin no problem man
The death egg robot doesn't take 8 hits to destroy, it takes 12 hits
While I never played CD back in the day, not having a Mega CD to go with my Mega Drive, I did manage to find a link to download it for the PC later, before getting it with the Gamecube's Gem's collection. However before that, I can remember watching the animated opening and ending constantly on both the Sonic Jam and Mega Collection movie theatre sections, along with the anime OVA/movie trailer which I swear has me imagining hearing Sonikku whenever any character's calling out for help, due to how many time I watched it XD
I can only wonder what was going on with the localization of CD when it was being brought to America when it came to Amy, especially when you consider that European region got it.
Sega JPN/EU: This
Sega US: This
Sega JPN/EU: is
Sega US: is
Sonic JPN/EU: Amy
Sega US: Amy
Sega JPN/EU: Rose
Sega US: Rose
Sega JPN/EU: This is Amy Rose
Sega US: This is Princess Sally!
How!? They don't even look remotely the same! You had one job, America! Still, can't be much worse than calling Sonic "Sonic The Hedgehog CD," like with French version of the European manual, and no I am not making that up, they referred to him as Sonic The Hedgehog CD. You had one job, France!
HAHAHA no way I cannot believe anyone greenlit sonic being called “Sonic the Hedgehog CD” that is so funny. This sounds like a classic America moment of bad localization of translations lmao. I was the same way the intro scene also, it is still SO cool and smooth imo. Thanks for watching :))
Very late but at 9:30
You can hold them as long as you want bt if you move fast enough you start shining you have to maintain that speed until you time travel and if you stop while you're shining then that's what makes them disappear
Thank you! Those frickin future signs would stay forever but Im glad to see to the point I thought they worked differently than the other ones hahaha. Hope you enjoyed the video :)
People always seem to shit on CD for two levels with poorly designed level structure while the rest of the game really puts emphasis on the exploration aspect of the game which I enjoy way more than the overrated sonic 2 and even sonic 3. Sonic CD is my favourite out of the original 4 sonic games (I don’t count sonic and knuckles as it’s own game)
While I don't think 2 and 3 are overrated, I do agree that people do usually throw the baby out with the bathwater when discussing Sonic CD's level design. I think in small part it is a bit inconsistent, but in large part people go in expecting a rollercoaster, but get a playground. You're getting a merge between Green Hill and Marble. You're not getting Sonic Rush - the latter of which I used to really enjoy for its gameplay, but now see as a bit dry ironically.
Well, small update. I spent like an hour just exploring Palmtree and Collision, and had a SHIT ton of fun. With the perspective of it being an exploration game, I'm pretty sure I enjoy this game more than Sonic 2 now. Wow.
This was a great vid!
I never got it that why people said that this game is the worst classic sonic game.yeah it's not perfect but it's not bad the level design is actually good and that race with metal sonic is still cool to this day and also let me mention the music is at its best i recently installed the game and finished it today and it's still very fun.
Maybe because the level design sucks?
@@labronthesuperninjayasin2203 the level design wasn't perfect yeah but it wasn't too bad eaither for me personally i enjoyed it if you didn't like it that's okay i respect your opinion.
@@behnamhassanpoor6793 well thank you
@@labronthesuperninjayasin2203 your welcome .
@@behnamhassanpoor6793 his welcome
I like how casual the difficulty is this is the game I can go back to the most
19:20 Fortunately for you (and probably a lot of other people too), there is a trick you can use to skip the entire fight.
At the start, before you go into the "pinball machine", there is a small ramp up.
If you max charge a super peel-out and jump at the right time off it, you can jump super high.
So high, you go over the entire pinball area, and can land after it with a clear shot to the end capsule. Break it, and you are out of there.
Doesn't work in the remake though. 😢
The physics engine tweaks made it so you can't get enough height from the jump.
While it feels like replacing speed as a reward with exploration as a reward isn't quite Sonic, and I've always felt the level design is pretty unpleasant, seeing people speak about what they enjoy in CD's gameplay makes me want to revisit it with a fresh perspective. I'm EXTREMELY grateful that this game exists as we know it. Getting what are basically TWO sequels to Sonic the Hedgehog with two VERY distinct design philosophies is a dream come true as a fan of the series. And Sonic CD is stylish as hell. I don't know if I'll enjoy it any more than I did a long time ago, but I sure respect this game a lot more.
I understand where you are coming from. I’d definitely give it a new run just to see how you feel about it again. 2 is also really great but I always found it funny how like polar opposite the two sequels to sonic 1 are. Thanks for watching!
@@Eldarin no problem! And wow going into this with a new perspective has COMPLETELY changed my opinion! The level design is still a bit wonk, but I just got 3 timestones and good futures for Palmtree and Collision, and I actually had SO much fun. It might be a combo of being a bit better at classic sonic games in general now, as well as having different expectations for Sonic CD, but my goodness that was a lot more fun than I expected.
@@tatertot64 I’m happy to hear you are enjoying it :))
This is my personal favourite classic Sonic game, while I really like 1,2, 3&K and Mania, I didn't play those games nearly as much as CD, it just has a different feel from other sonic games, and the fact that it's level design was never truly replicated makes it really unique, I mean, technically it's level design was kinda replicated in Sonic Colors, (in fact that's probably why I always sweat when someone acts like colors is basically unleashed without the night stages) but colours is more so it's own thing (so it's neither better, nor worse) in fact even in mania, stardust speedway and metallic madness were pretty much completely revamped, that just goes to show how different CD is compared to other sonic games and I love it for that. It's not my favourite game in the series, but it's definitely my most replayed one. (And it also helps that it actually got me to give a second chant to both 3&K and Mania, since I didn't enjoy those games too much the first time around)
Awesome video, looks like it was a ton of work, great job! Subbed and looking forward to more :D
Thank you! I'm really happy you enjoyed the video, Im working on the next one right now which I hope to have out soon :)
random thing, I liked the balance between deciding whether to use the peel out or the spin dash in certain situations... until I realized you could just do the peel out then hit down the moment you release, making the spin dash essentially useless :L
I do feel that spindash is still useful as when enemies are close its a good idea to use it then, but I totally see where you are coming from. Thanks for watching!
Awesome review, Keep it up!
Hey thank yoy so much it really means a lot to hear that! Hope you enjoy what’s to come for the channel!! (Also I am still doing reviews but I am formatting them a bit different for the 3D games ;))
Again, a lot I agree with. I’m not running through all my music opinions, as my opinion for which soundtrack teeter-totters between either. I agree with the people who state that the US is better for exploration, while JP is for, well more energetic Sonic music. I still quite like both of them, and I think they nail there purposes perfectly. Also, a part I’m not necessarily proud of, there would be times when I end up being like, “Oh! This track was used in Chronicles!”
When I played this game before, I never particularly liked this game. As my current playthrough of the games, something clicked. I learned to ‘vibe’ with the levels. God I hate myself saying that, but I think I just learned to explore the levels more. It cause me to play the game a second time after... and then again. I had to move on to the next game eventually, but it really left a positive impact on me.
I have the same love for the special stages, in which either this or Knuckles’s Chaotix are my favorite. And the decision to have two ways for the good ending is something I could gush about for a while.
Time for disagreements. I believe that the Super Peel Out/Strike Dash is not the most useful. You stated that you prefer to use it for time travel, but I prefer using the spindash as it’s not about how fast you go, but rather how long you can keep a high speed. Since the spindash gives you the speed, and allows you to travel the same distance in less time, it’s pretty good for traveling. Next up is the Metal Sonic fight. I agree that the atmosphere and circumstance is great. I don’t like the gameplay though. It feels much more memorization based. There’s not much to it besides Spindash/Super Peel Out until you reach spike, jump over spike, repeat. Also, I never really had the problem with the Pinball boss, however, I’m not saying the boss is good. It’s quite bad still.
Almost everything else I would have mentioned was mentioned. I’d like to just say a tad bit of just something I like; Sonic not caring about Amy’s love interest is one of the qualities I think perfectly hit Sonic’s character. He’s a free soul, not doing his adventure for reward. Oh, and I want to question. I notice when you say “Tidal Tempest,” you seem to say “Tidal Temptest.” Is this a accent thing or what. This isn’t a insult, I just found it funny how you said the zone.
This has now become one of my favorite Megadrive games. It was hella fun now that I can enjoy it.
I have no corrections to make this time. Most mistakes have been corrected in the comments. And interest lore in the beginning, as I didn’t know some of it. And yeah, long comment again. Sorry, I’m talking about Sonic again, I can’t help myself.
It's funny you say this about clicking and all as when I first played 3K..espically sonic 3 I was like THIS GAME SUCKS! But once replaying it for the video, my whole opinion changed on it. I totally see where you are coming from on what you aren't a fan of from CD and those are valid critiscism! I agree about Sonic and Amy also, I always loved their "relationship" per say. And for Tidal Temptest, I always thought it was Tempest so thank you for the clarification XD I never saw the extra T there lol! Thanks for watching and never apologize! I love this franchise so being able to talk about it so always a pleasure of mine :)
@@Eldarin Coming back to this comment, I just realized something. I think I just lead you to believing Tidal Tempest has an extra 'T' in there. Sorry 'bout that, I was talking about how whenever you say it, you added an extra 'T' to your pronunciation. It is Tempest.
@@Thebes No need to apologize, I for some reason have always said Tempetest, I do it with so many words xD Thanks for the clarificaiton
@@Eldarin Of course dude :)
very interesting to hear this perspective as someone whos least favorite classic title is cd
Thanks! What made CD your least favorite?
Lol
I love this game it’s so wholesome. There is so much heart in this game. It’s a sonic game with a soul inside it. The music and story you take part in, masterful.
True
We found him
A Sonic fan and a Halo fan
You watched Noodles’s videos on Halo:CE didn’t you
you caught me 0_0
I haven't but im 100% going to now!
@@Eldarin let’s gooooo
Ruby of Blue is also a big Sonic and Halo stan
@@KOTEBANAROT believe me I’m well aware 👌
Would you happen to be a Kingdom Hearts enjoyer my friend
I love this game. The japanese soundtrack inspired by techno and eurodance tracks give me life. The levels are magical and the intro too. I got all emeralds, I wish you could turn super sonic here too 😂
time stones my friend time stones
how to improve cd: play time twisted its a fangame yes but a beautiful one
I agree that game is gorgeous!!
I know this video is a year old now, bit if I had to change anything about this game... I would use both of the boss themes for the Good and Bad future respectively.
The U.S. track is more intimidating and imposing, with only Robotnik's deep laughter... even if you beat his contraption, he's won, the future is bleak and there's nothing you can do to save it.
But the Japanese track is a bit more cheerful and funky. There's Robotnik's deep laughter, but also a higher pitched laugh, maybe to represent Sonic. The future is bright and now there's nothing Robotnik can do to ruin it further, his latest contraption is all that's left to destroy and clean up from the utopian landscape you've helped maintain.
I don't know if anybody's mentioned this, but the Palmtree Panic Boss' name is a reference to the Super Nintendo's model name, referencing how easy and childish it is or whatever.
Just a heads up, the animations were produced by Junio Team, not Toei. Great video!
Oh my mistake! Thank you I hope you enjoyed it and stay tuned for the 3K video!
@@Eldarin I will! ;)
Sonic 3 maybe the perfect 2D Sonic game (I have never played Mania) but CD will always be my favorite of the 4. The only thing I have against the game is the easy as hell boss fights but they are really creative despite that, even better than the one in 2 and 3 imo. The pathetic Bumper Eggman is insult to the Famicom/NES limited hardware since they share the same name for example.
Maybe you already know this but the 6 Zones in CD is somewhat a reimagining of the 6 Zones in 1:
Palmtree Panic - Green Hill (duh)
Tidal Tempest - Labyrinth
Wacky Workbench - Spring Yard
Stardust Speedway - Star Light
Metallic Madness - Scrap Brain
With the exception being Collision Chaos and Marble Zone, apparently it was going to be a Marble 2.0 but then they scraped it for some reason (you can see it in the ending cutscenes) and borrowed idea heavily from both Spring Yard and Casino Night.
Also, this is a great review. Keep up the good work, buddy.
I agree! I love both games so much! The bosses are the most lackluster aspect of CD though unfortunately :/ Thanks for watching!!
Sonic CD was actually the first Classic Sonic Game I played and beaten. The game has a very unique sense of style and atmosphere that has never been replicated. A very easy game too. The Metal Sonic race and Metallic Madness Act 3 are the only difficult parts of the game.
The exploration is what makes or breaks this game. Experimenting with the time travel is the most fun for me as I like how it changes the levels and the overall atmosphere. Makes it feel like you have an impact on little planet. If you try to play it like the other games though it can come across as too easy and not as interesting as the other Classic Sonic games.
This was a good vid for the most part, and it's nice to see some praise and credit towards Sonic CD in the modern day where everybody has an obsession with acting like it's the spawn of Satan, but you can never convince me that Wacky Workbench and Stardust Speedway are well designed zones (and no, I'm not going to call them rounds).
I'm someone who's actually perfectly fine with Sonic CDs level design philosophy, but in a game that's all about wanting you to take your time, explore at your own pace and control, and know what you're doing, those two zones completely contradict that mentality with making it so that nearly every moment feels entirely random and you have no freakin clue as to what in the world is going to happen to you next or where you're going to be sent to. Those zones' object placements and geometry actively try to go against you and bounce/fling you to where you don't want to go. They're unbelievably irritating to traverse through.
Your footage of the two zones honestly said it all. They don't look fun to play through. They just make you want to throw your controller with their layouts and pointless set pieces. JUST LOOK AT 27:44 FOR PETE'S SAKE! They just slapped a spike block in the middle of a burst of speed! Terrible layouts, absolutely terrible.
I found out an interesting detail about the time travel mechanic. In the 2011 remakes, the time required to hold speed to travel between time periods is increased by ~1 second. This change looks small but breaks many segments of Sonic CD where time travel was possible in previous releases.
The fact that you didn't used thw Past sfx when you said it immidiately after you used the Future sfx is disappointing
Yeah your right that was a missed opportunity darn it! Oh well what can ya do now... Hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
I like how this game gives you two ways to get the good ending unlike other Sonic games. One requires exploring, and the other gives an extra challenge but accessing it is a lot simpler. Would've been cool if Christian Whitehead was allowed to include the extra boss fight at the end of the game as that would've gave the time stones an extra purpose as it would only be accessible from collecting them.
Alone, the Super Peel-Out might make you vulnerable, but if you have a sign active, you will instantly start sparkling, which gives you invincibility. In hindsight, using the Peel-Out with a sign active is just a Spindash but faster (+bonus cool points)
i prefer the japanese soundtrack overall since i feel it captures sonic way better but i do like the us version of metal sonics theme overall this game is underatted
I wish I could be like you and actually like wacky workbench, it’s my least favorite zone in the entirety of the classics, labyrinth being my second least.
Hey man that's totally fair! What are your 2 favorites?
@@Eldarin probably Sonic mania’s Stardust Speedway, and Titanic Monarch
@@Eldarin I really want to specify MANIA stardust speedway, the original level from CD is a crowded and confusing mess of a zone.
Great review. Loved it as a kid and never knew that it was regarded as one of the worse classic games until I got older. Very well thought out and makes me want to play it again. Sonic 1 over 2 is crazy tho. But good stuff man.
Such a great game, glad more people are seeing it now
Sonic cd is my favourite game out of the classic’s because of its uniqueness but I disagree agree on the boss in Tidal Tempest, I think the boss is pretty cool from the start where you chase Robotnic and how you have to take out the bubbles while dodging laser beams for the final hit!
My least favorite classic Sonic game. But your review is definitely making me appreciate it more! One thing's for sure though, the soundtracks (both of them) are exceptional. I listen to it all the time when I work.
Thanks so much for watching the review Micah! I totally understand how this game can be a lot of people’s least favorite but I’m happy to hear it made you appreciate it a tad more :)
I'd rent a Sega CD from the local video store that I had to roll home in a classic-style red Radio Flyer wagon. A couple times I went there with going home on an unexpected half-day from elementary school. -- I can barely understand it now but I even once just had my best friend ride the bus home with me on a whim with no "permission" on one of those half-days and we walked to that same store and rented Stargate. -- Good times...
Finally someone that understands that the super peel out isn't useless
Holy crap are these zones huge. Having secrets that contribute to the game's ending was a treat to find, especially since I love metroidvanias. So obviously, I made it my mission to find the transporter and hologram in every act. (Except for in Metal Madness where it took me 30 minutes of tearing my hair out looking for the hologram until I finally gave in to look it up and find out that there weren't any holograms after the Metal Sonic fight. 30 minutes I'll never get back.)
However, that ended up making parts of the game more of a chore than a fun pass time. Screw Quartz Quadrant, Wacky Workbench and Metal Madness in particular :'(
Maybe next time I'll do a bad future run instead so I can soak more in the fun of the zones. If I want some exploration in my life, I'll look for giant rings in S3K lol
Yeah they're massive! I highly recommend on your bad future run trying to get the time stones as you get the best of both worlds in seeing the bad futures along with getting the good ending. What OST did you use on your run also? I haven't gotten all the holograms in one save yet but want to at some point for the achievement on steam. I guess I'll stream that or something lawl, but anyways, overall what are your thoughts on CD compared to the rest on the genesis?
@@Eldarin I uh, tried getting the time stones as well but getting at the UFO's are tough :'') But I'll certainly give it a go anyway. I used the JP soundtrack for my playthrough, mostly since the JP version of the special stage track (Which acted as the menu screen theme) wowed me when I booted the game up on iOS. I partially chose it over the US soundtrack because I heard plenty about the hellish US game over/boss themes, and, being a wuss, I chickened out. I understand the rest of the US OST is worth a listen though.
As for those holograms, good luck. I gave up and searched up a location after 30-60 min of roaming around in Wacky Workbench Act 2. Maybe you'll happen to come up upon the right places, because I checked everywhere but the ONE PLACE THE PROJECTOR WAS IN THAT ACT.
Overall besides my terrible luck in some zones, CD was pretty great, though I don't think I enjoyed it quite as much as Sonic 2 or S3K.
So, having finished the Genesis games, I picked up Mania for 5 or 6 bucks from the recent lunar sale on Steam a bit ago! As for how I feel about the game thus far...
Let's just say I've stopped my progression in the game to replay GHZ more than just a couple times....
@@doctorquack1399 I feel ya, definitely check out the US OST later on as imo its pretty awesome and mania is awesome, I'm excited to go thru it for the channel eventually as I played it originally on PS4 when it was free and rebought it on steam...same with forces lol. The UFO's are really challenging but once you get into a rhythm with them I'm sure you'll get it!
Actually, when it comes to the past and future signs, you need to run for some time. When you see the icon for it start to flash, that means you're about to warp. But if you lose your momentum at all, that means you lose the time warp and need to find a new sign. So taking it slow when you do have a past sign to find a good stretch of land, or with a future one to find a past one is how you make sure you don't warp when you don't want to.
Interesting! During my time thru CD I felt I had a really good handle on the mechanics of the time travel but the more curious I got as
it felt the time travel window for the Past was a lot shorter than the future. For example, I would just be walking and still have the future time travel window but if it was for the past, the window would be gone. When doing research for the video...I couldn't find any reason or people talking about what felt like a shorter past travel window which is what tripped me up, do you know why?
@@Eldarin When you play Sonic CD again, go to a past signpost and then go walking around like you did with the future signpost. Then see about doing a time jump in an easy area for both past and future. I think that can help show it to you. I think maybe you just kept going fast and stopping at a bad time.
@@Eldarin Because I know in the version I play on the gems collection, when you're about to do a time warp, the past or future signpost icon will flash to indicate you're close to doing a time warp. Not sure if it's the same in the 2011 version.
@@robertkovarna8294 Thats interesting..off the top of my head in the 2011 remaster the signs only flash when you are about to lose the time travel window..they must've switched it in the re-release. That's awesome though you have the Gems Collection..that collection was so good! Thanks for watching the video also, hope you enjoyed it!
@@Eldarin So, in the 2011 version, it flashes when you're about to lose it? Have you ever noticed the icon flashing while you're running or in a setpiece for speed and then you time travel?
I like your enthusiasm, but I'll be honest, no amount of praise will ever convince me that these levels are good. They're acceptable and there's some fun to be had. They're also pretty to look at. But overall, even Sonic 1 has better level layouts, for the most part.
That’s fair! I personally disagree but respect your opinion on the level design. Thanks for watching!
It always saddens me when fans of this beautiful game fight over the soundtracks. Both are amazing in their own right and deserve to be there. I hope they keep the option to choose between them when Sonic CD gets released in the new Origins collection.
Collision chaos's bad future US ost sounds it's got the cool guitar sound with a nice darkertone
The past tracks for the US and JP are the same, BUT There IS a fan made past track collection on game banana
Sonic CD is so lucky to be released between Sonic 2 and Sonic 3.
Cause if it was released after Sonic 3 (like Knuckles Chaotix) nobody would consider it a classic Sonic game and only as a “oh yeah that weird Sonicbgame with time travel. That was the start of the downfall…”
You KNOW that would be the perception, cause that’s the reputation Knuckles Chaotix (sorta because nobody even played it) has as being the beginning of the downfall. Even though that’s not true in the slightest.
Don’t worry, I also prefer the US ost overall. There’s definitely some songs that I prefer in the JP version, but in general, the US version is better. I can’t tell you how much it irritates me that so much of the community insists that it sucks.
I like CD from the soundtrack alone and the game looks fun!
Love Sonic CD
I found a name for Metal Sonic
Dopplespeeder
My Dopplespeeder sonic!
"My favorite song for the us soundtrack was the past one" lol
Sonic didn't wanted to save the planet he wanted to know what's behind about this mystery of little planet and wanted to go there to go to a vacation then he sees little planet chained etc by Eggman
Sonic CD is my favorite Classic Sonic game I love it flaws and all it has the best gameplay music story and atmosphere of all the Classic Sonic games even Mania in my opinion it's the closest Classic Sonic has gotten to the level of 3D Sonic games like Adventure 2 where it feels cinematic like a playable movie Sonic CD feels like a playable silent movie it's awesome
I'm not clowning on you for liking this game [which sucks], I'm just confused about a few things. CD would be a lot more enjoyable if Sonic 1's framework had been modified for it's main gameplay mechanic of exploring, but since the screen is still so zoomed in, it's impossible to see anything coming, ESPECIALLY on a 4:3 CRT, which is how most people played it through the original release or Gems collection, before Whitehead came along to try to salvage this mess. And then by the time you're able to find a spot to time travel, successfully pull it off, and manage to find the one Robot Teleporter located god-knows-where, you're likely to get a time over. This wouldn't be an issue if the special stages were any good. You can't even slow down in them, so if you miss one of those stupid UFOs with their hitbox way smaller than their sprite, you have to find a way to painstakingly turn your ass around without hitting the water or taking too much time.
You know, this is a really good point... I didn't about how it the version on the CD may have differed and I could totally see that being frustrating if it was zoomed in a lot more. I personally am a big fan of the special stages as they do take some time getting used to but are enjoyable in my eyes but totally understand if you arent a fan. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed it :)
While I do like the JP soundtrack more, there are a lot of incredible songs in the US soundtrack like sonic boom and wacky workbench present. both soundtracks have great songs
Edit: Actually I noticed in your gameplay they dont flash, so that'd explain it.
Respectfully, how did you play this game 5 times and not understand the time posts. They dont vanish after some time passes.
You need to reach a specific speed.
After a few seconds the post will activate and flash.
If you fail to maintain the speed while the post is activated itll vanish.
If you do manage to maintain it. Youll be teleported through time.
Amy: Sooniiic, im pregnant
Sonic: 2:27
I never saw it as the spin dash or a version of it. It always seemed like a completely different move to me. I wish they would improve it and call it the Triple Spin.
Hey if you want to play sonic cd again I would recommend you using level select and starting from bad future and ending level in good future its like sonic is late but he can still fix this and bring paradise to little planet
Sonic cd 💿 the first sonic game I’ve beaten summer 2021
I love both soundtracks of Sonic CD a lot. US and JPN combined, they are at least a 9/10. They're both my top favorite gaming soundtracks from Sonic. There aren't enough characters to put out all of my words about these 2 masterpieces from Japan and America, but I did make a review and comparison series for Sonic CD: th-cam.com/video/8S30Vowm7Ds/w-d-xo.html
At long last, I find a TH-camr who doesn’t think badly of this game
As a fan of both Halo and Sonic, I really have to say that the portrayal of the situation at the timestamp 9:19 isn't entirely fair. To call Bungie's code "jank" for Halo CE given how ahead of the game they were (literally), the small size of their studio, the shockingly tiny amount of time Bungie were given to do it, how 343i/Microsoft forbade those working on the remaster from talking to or working with those who worked on the original game, 343i/Microsofts absolute mishandling of every other Halo project they've been involved with... Given these and many other factors, it's quite rude to the talented and forward-thinking workers behind Halo CE, who frankly revolutionised the modern shooter, to call their work "jank."
Hey Caramell! I too am a very large fan of Halo myself and did not mean to come off as rude or discrediting the work of the developers behind CE when describing the coding of it. I am also very aware of the behind-the-scenes work that went into CE and how little time Bungie had when originally working on it. That was not meant to come off as a dig at Bungie, as I'm sure you too are aware..the original trilogy was coded very strangely (maybe jank wasn't the right word?) similarly to how Naka's original Genesis sonic trilogy programming was where unless you worked on it and knew how to read its "language" per say...it was hard to translate from an outsider looking in..which is also why Naka always had the upperhand in negotiations with SEGA back in the day since he knew his programming inside and out. I was simply using the MCC as a comparison due to 343 having quite alot of trouble with reworking the games for modern hardware, much like how it was challenging for CD's dev team to work with Naka's programming w/o him being there. I have a very high respect for the Bungie developers as Halo is one of my favorite franchises of all time and Halo 3 being up there as my favorite game, well..ever. I wasn't aware of the fact that MS didnt allow 343i to interact with the old Bungie devs, which is another facepalm upon many that MS has made with the series. Anyways, I hope you enjoyed the video and heres hoping Halo Infinite is good!
Yeesh, somebody's a bit overly-defensive.
Ever read the archie books? those got dark.
I read a few but I need to get into them...they seem awesome. Thanks for watching!
@@Eldarin thanks for educating.
Eldarin: sonic cd good ending without time stones took 6:00 because of exploring levels
Me: sped running sonic cd less than 1:20 and 1:00 min
Edit: also I speedrun less than 40 sec
You do know the Super Peel out move is in Sonic Mania right?
At the time of writing this I didn’t know you could unlock the other abilities from the other games. Makes Mania even more awesome. Thanks for watching!
@@Eldarin NP
@@Eldarin and yes Sonic CD Super Peel out and Sonic 3 instashield is in Mania also Sonic Mania new move The Drop Dash that all the move in Sonic mania.
Also there a cheat in Sonic Mania that unlock all Moves from Sonic CD ,3 and Mania at ones
@@Eldarin oh the Spin Dash is actually a default moves by away
Yeah I was playing mania relatively recently and was so happy you could unlock all those...a couple years ago when I played mania for the first time I didn’t even know the drop dash was a thing😂 that’s awesome about the all at once cheat though, I do plan on doing a video on mania as I have only played thru it once back in like 2019 and the other characters like Mighty and Ray seem super fun
CD is the most interesting classic sonic game i just wish metal was the last boss
Out of sonic 1, 2 and 3/k, Sonic CD has the best soundtracks and it’s way better than sonic 1 and 2 (without tails) sonic CD has something different from them which is the story, gameplay, music and bosses. I really love this game and I don’t see why people call it the most overrated when it gets so much hate also I honestly really like the jump sound and the peelout move. This will be a controversial opinion but I think it deserves a 2 Tbh, looking back at it sometimes I wish there was more to it or something related.
Honeslty, the level’s are fine imo, if some section’s are annoying.
I think there shouldn’t be a Time-Limit so I can explore the level’s.
Special-Stage’s are the worst imo, not good in anyway cause the control’s feel’s weird.
Everything else is fine or decent.
11:43 mania technically has it so yay
While I like a lot both ost, the fact that the game has a heavy japanese vibe makes impossible for me to listen to the US ost in game. I could say this one and Sonic R (and maybe Heroes) are the most japanese-feeling sonic games
On my most recent playthrough I actually switched to the jp ost just for stardust speedway lol.
what wheres the mention of stardust speedway good future
Death Egg Robot takes 12 hits
Sonic The Hedgehog, 1991 (Sega Genesis / Mega-Drive)
Sonic The Hedgehog 2, 1992 (Sega Genesis / Mega-Drive)
Sonic The Hedgehog Compact-Disk, 1993 (Sega Compact-Disk)
Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckle’s, 1994 (Sega Genesis / Mega-Drive)
Chaotix 32X, 1995 (Sega 32X)
Sonic The Hedgehog 3.Dimensional Blast, 1996 (Sega Saturn)
Sonic Racing, 1997 (Sega Saturn)
Sonic The Fighter’s,
Sonic Adventure Delux Director’s Cut
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
Sonic Heroes, 2003 (GameCube, was it?)
Shadow The Hedgehog, 2005 (GameCube, was it?)
Sonic The Hedgehog, 2006 (XBox idk, I forgot)
Sonic World Adventure, 2008
Sonic Color’s, 2010
Sonic Generation’s, 2011
Sonic Lost World, 2013
Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, 2014 (Nintendo Wii U)
Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal’s, 2014 (Nintendo 3DS)
Sonic Boom Fire & Ice, 2016 (Nintendo 3DS)
Sonic Forces, 2017
Sonic Team Racing, 2019
I’ll finish it later.
HUE HUE HUE❤️
#Little planet
Yuji had so much beef! 😂