The best XLR Adapter Pro Audio Technicians can carry!?

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  • @mashzmash
    @mashzmash ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Noise introducer cable" haha. I'll try to plug the unused connectors together when possible to avoid individual pins from making contact with random things.

  • @edoardoallertsen
    @edoardoallertsen ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Z cable is the best cable, as I've already said. It's able to do the job of 4 different cables in one, with very little extra space in your case. I normally have two Z cables with me at all times and two single XLR cables with convert-con connectors at both ends. This allows me to do pretty much everything I need. On top of that I have two RCA-Convertcon cables and two 1/4"jack-Convertcon cables. That's everything you'll ever need. And saves me from having 6 or 7 extra adapters in my case.

  • @jeffmoss26
    @jeffmoss26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew there was a name for these, just glad I had them when I needed them!

  • @arthurskudra50
    @arthurskudra50 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I built this Z adapter several years ago for my Smaart kit, but with a slightly different "twist"
    1 Neutrik NC3MX
    1 Neutrik NC3FX
    1 Neutrik NC3FM-C ConvertCon
    1 Neutrik NP3X 1/4" TRS Plug
    AND MOST Important....A wire label with your name/company behind some clear heat shrink!!!!!
    I keep two of these super useful adapter cables in my kit, they have saved countless projects for me, but when others see how useful they are, they have a tendency of growing legs and wandering away. To the two people/companies that have my missing adapters without my name on them, you're welcome!!! Hence why the most important thing to do here is label it so it doesn't disappear! Lesson learned!!!
    I also have several adapters that convert XLR to phoenix type connectors for fixed installs, along with stereo adapters with 3.5mm TRS and 4.4mm TRRRS plugs on them.

    • @andyonion3408
      @andyonion3408 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an excellent idea, Arthur - I was considering a modification to my Z-split with the ConvertCon, but adding the TRS jack would be a game changer!

  • @FreerunMediaService
    @FreerunMediaService ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I made 2 boxes with XLR male and female. With a double pole switch in it. so you can hook up everything with one advantage, you can rotate the phase. Hook such a switch in the "middle" wire and you have a box that can be used for anything. You could even run a ground lift switch in it. Just a little box with XLR on both ends, on top and a double throw switch on the top of the box, between the 2 other XLR's.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds really handy, do you find yourself using it a lot?

  • @andyonion3408
    @andyonion3408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would call that a 'Z-split' - boy do they come in useful on many occasions!

  • @IainBrewSydney
    @IainBrewSydney ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was gifted a GOOT cable and I love it - the 'Get Out Of Trouble' cable

  • @sundontshinedesigns782
    @sundontshinedesigns782 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video from you as always. I appreciate that there’s very little filler in your content - I’m getting SO many TH-cam recommendations these days for 10+ min videos that are unnecessarily long, sponsor-injected, and have dumb clickbaity titles and/or thumbnails. Thank you for being concise and honest.
    One question: could this cable ever get you into trouble? I was thinking how they don’t sell male-to-male three-prong power cables since manufacturers don’t want users to hurt themselves, but maybe the Z cable is totally harmless since it only passes signal and perhaps +48V?

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it! You won’t hurt yourself with 48v phantom thankfully. Some folks (named Dave) even like to lick the cable to test for phantom power, though that’s probably not the best method to use in the field.

  • @Videditor1067
    @Videditor1067 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the TV broadcast, the "W" cable is widely used in the announcers booth setup. Mostly to daisy all the anncr boxes Talkback outputs to one single output to the truck. There are usually three talent boxes,, so the "W". Thus I'd say this is a "Z" cable.

  • @jwstout007
    @jwstout007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd probably call it the "double Y" or the "he said, she said" if I wanted to be cheeky. Making a few of these for the reverse adapter utility alone!

  • @jas_bataille
    @jas_bataille ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To avoid confusion, I'd call them "jumper splitters" because you can use them to split a jumped signal. For instance, split the signal between a stereo input to FOH PA and a mono input to satellites, and it does the job a a jumper as well!

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interested use of 'jumper' I've never heard before. I'd usually say a Y cable either splits, or combines (mixes, sums etc.). Jumpers in electronics can be any conductor really that is added to either split or gang things together, or otherwise open or close a circuit. So a 'jumped' signal doesn't really tell us what we're doing with it, other than putting it in circuit with something else, right? Maybe I'm misunderstanding though, happy to learn more about what you're doing, thanks for the message.

  • @Reveers
    @Reveers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah! I could see a couple practical uses for this in my kit. Running multiple power amps together, and monitor chains off the top off my head. Certainly got all the components I need. A lot of our outputs and speakers have been run off 1/4" except for the main out from the mixer so it's never really been necessary yet. Like, you wouldn't want to daisy chain mics like this, but you could side channel one fairly easily I suppose. haha sorry I'm just thinking out loud. Good video.

  • @dwmfty3111
    @dwmfty3111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There has been handful of times when you need to go XLR to line 6.5 in on a mixing console. 🤟 that's why the 6.5 jack

  • @minisecraft
    @minisecraft ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in French it's often refer as a cross "une croix".

  • @olpqay
    @olpqay ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey, 5:59 - there's actually a debate going on, whether it's clever or not to connect the ground to the shell.
    Devices with metal housings are usually earthed (e.g. amps) so it might occur, that an XLR receptacle in that device has a direct electrical connection to the housing because it's mounted there. Now with a plugged in cable, the shell would also connect to that same potential and you would essentially bypass the GND/Lift-Switch because the wire's GND would always be earthed no matter what position your GND/Lift switch is.
    On the other hand, if you use the wire as an extension, it might be an advantage, that you have a proper shielding (the connector's shell) which is connected like the cable screen at the connecting point.
    So at the end it's kinda an religious question, if you should do it or not, but one should be aware of possible problems imho. :)
    Also, often the devices XLR receptacle are made of plastic nowadays, like the Neutrik XLR/RCA combo type, so you would not run into the mentioned problem often.
    Greetings from Germany! :)

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the great message. It is certainly good to be mindful of what you’re going to use a cable for when you set out to make your own. It’s great to know the videos are being seen in Germany, thanks again!

    • @bradleonard1865
      @bradleonard1865 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd be confirming best practice in Rane notes if the Tribe still has them around.

  • @techthisout3549
    @techthisout3549 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember back in the days, it was 2011, and a good technician from PRG gave me this cable, from that day I've always used the "Z" cable instead of "Y", smart idea with one xlr more only ! ;) Still wait the world to move entirely to full rj45 plug for everything, XLR are old, and due to the great lossless low latency codecs out of there everything should run over IP basically.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So I used to work at a pretty large art gallery (six city blocks long) and they went this route at one point for a lot of the tie-points and discreet patch panels. It was a CONSTANT battle to keep the installed RJ45 working and free of dirt, corrosion, dust, ants and all sorts of other crap over time in public spaces. Even with unused ports capped and in enclosures, it was a huge headache. I love what they make possible, but the connector itself is a struggle.

    • @AndersHellquist
      @AndersHellquist ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DcSoundOp Ethercon?

    • @dshack4689
      @dshack4689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find XLR far more robust over multiple years. Based on my interactions with local live production people, I was an early adopter of audio and IP (as I'd been in both the live audio and digital networks fields seperately prior). I love the universal simplicity and compatibility of the XLR for end devices. Sure, IP for trunking instead of massive multicores, but I'm not looking forward to the day a guest artist walks onstage and suddenly I'm debugging firmware versions on why their mic won't talk to the mixer input channel? Yikes.....

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AndersHellquist It was Ethercon… but didn’t help when stuff was physically blocking the pins.

  • @Darren777Au
    @Darren777Au ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I call the connections male and female XLR's, or old name of Canon plugs.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's Cannon & they still make & sell the XLR connectors that James Cannon invented.

  • @Doctaj54
    @Doctaj54 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. I may make one soon.
    Have you found any pro/cons between all the different Neutrik XLR connectors? silver vs black/silver pins vs black/gold pin ?

  • @TheOpticalFreak
    @TheOpticalFreak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for explaining! 😃

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the message!

  • @dpinskey
    @dpinskey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my mind for how it would be used I would call it a double-Y cable, but visually the way the cable construct appears to lay in a Z formation, I’d have to go with calling it a Z cable. And so as not to alienate out Canadian and European brothers and sisters this translates easily to Zed connector.

  • @stephenstange4194
    @stephenstange4194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Great content as always.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Stephen, always appreciate the feedback!

  • @AlexValliMusic
    @AlexValliMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never seen a cable like this... I know there's the Y splitters/combiners, but I'm just trying to figure out a practical use for this cable... I guess since you could use it as either or, it cuts down on how many cables, but I just need a demonstration of practical use of this cable so I can understand how not to fuck it up lol

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is as much to avoid carrying a ton of separate adapters as it is useful all at once. Most of the time you'll probably use it as a simple turn around or splitter. With amp racks and line arrays, or any gear where XLR i/O is in parallel, you can use it as a 1x3 split as well, which is handy. Of course it also works as a long jumper like mentioned in the video if you need a 3' patch cable in a pinch to go between racks etc. Does that make sense? Thx for watching!

  • @Makc_Z
    @Makc_Z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made W/M adapters a month ago by adding 1/4 TRS, sorry just can’t support Z anymore ))

  • @ProDoucher
    @ProDoucher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never called them a z cable but I’ve certainly called them a z cable

  • @jaycap38
    @jaycap38 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a version with
    1 XLR plug
    1 XLR socket
    1 XLR convertcon
    1 jack
    I find this configuration to be even more useful.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That really is the ultimate adapter! I love the convertcons, they were much more usable than I expected before trying them!

    • @jaycap38
      @jaycap38 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DcSoundOp yes they really can be very useful

  • @nomenclature9373
    @nomenclature9373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I called them the X Split. I first started making up my own for branching ClearCom systems back in the day, later used them in sports production. Started with Switchcraft, then moved to Neutrik. In the center I used a short cable tie to maintain the X. Oddball variations included 2 XLR-F to 2 bantam and 2 XLR-M to 2 bantam.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, bantam adapters are a whole other category of fun! Thanks for the message!

  • @changemeahh
    @changemeahh ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been meaning to make up some cables like this with the neutrik Convertcon, it’s a connector capable of being plug or socket (male or female) so are really as versatile as it gets
    Guessing they can’t be as robust as fixed connectors though

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you’ll like this -> th-cam.com/video/UFjFTgw5MRM/w-d-xo.html

  • @selectorerwin1don12
    @selectorerwin1don12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey good video i had to make 2 y cable (xlr) to feed a cvr 4ch amplifier input from a mixer ....but my question is what size is the cable itself or whats the wire type?

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want something similar to what I'm using, try belden 8412 - it's an installation type cable. Or you can use the standard Belden 8451 which will be a bit tighter squeeze going through the XLR boot. Canare L2T2S is great too for making your own cables.

    • @TomCee53
      @TomCee53 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just about any shielded pair will work, but it can’t be too big to fit two in the connectors. I use 22awg pair with foil shield. Lengths vary from 8 to 30 inches depending on expected use. If it’s more than 12”, I add a Velcro tie to minimize tangles.

  • @edjefferson9175
    @edjefferson9175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I make mine without loose ends - every connector has 2 wires in it. And I call it the wonder Y.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you make all of the wires the same lengths? I'd love to see one if you can message me a photo? Thanks for checking out the video!

    • @edjefferson9175
      @edjefferson9175 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DcSoundOp yes, wires are all equal length of 4 to 6 inches. Imagine a diamond shape. Prepare cable ends. Strip, twist, and solder conductors together on all 4 wires. The connectors go on last.

  • @bradleonard1865
    @bradleonard1865 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the risk of sounding old, I've been in the pro audio, pro AV industry for almost 20 years and about 10 years before that as a kid learning. I don't feel I've ever had trouble learning what XLR connectors are. Admittedly, genders and names are confusing in our industry.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Brad, thanks for checking out the video. I think we are subscribed to all of the same channels! Have been watching Life Uncontained since they started. Love the Car Wizard too. All the best.

  • @AxsSkyHD
    @AxsSkyHD ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Those are male and female XLR connectors, ain’t gonna change the name after so many years 😂

    • @hewhorocketh
      @hewhorocketh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wondered why there was an almost uncomfortable attempt to call them anything apart from male and female 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @AxsSkyHD
      @AxsSkyHD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hewhorocketh views my brother, views and nothing else

    • @hewhorocketh
      @hewhorocketh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AxsSkyHD as in being politically correct for the sake of not offending and gaining TH-cam presence and not because it’s what you know is right?

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂 You two geniuses are cracking me up with this stuff. ‘For the views Brother, for the views’ … ‘Being politically correct to gain a TH-cam presence’ 😭 FFS, this is a tiny nerdy pro audio channel. Industry language gets updated ALL the time & keeping up with those changes is part of being… professional? And yeah… after 20+ yrs of saying it one way, it takes time for new language to become second nature. I’m sure I’ll make mistakes, and you’re welcome to stop watching my videos anytime you want ✌🏼

  • @Martinmusic07
    @Martinmusic07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can i use this for my 2 units wireless mic setup?

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      While you technically can, combining signals from two wireless mics this way isn’t a recommended method. If your receivers can output a line level signal, many mixers have 1/4” inputs with no mic pres that are perfect to plug in wireless receivers.

  • @danielchristie8045
    @danielchristie8045 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't the recommended industry best practicce not to connect the connector shield to ground?

  • @shangrilaladeda
    @shangrilaladeda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's a simple xlr cable short cable mogmai is best switchcraft and neutrik have the best diy xlr connectors

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Belden makes great cable too, you don’t have to spend a fortune 👍🏼

    • @shangrilaladeda
      @shangrilaladeda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DcSoundOp mogmai is better priced than other hifi companies that sell cables just saying, I know of Belden but never used any of their xlr cables

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shangrilaladeda Hey, use whatever makes you happy, Mogami makes great stuff! Give Belden a try if you get a chance, I bet you’ll like it too.

  • @Billsoundmaster
    @Billsoundmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor person’s (formerly Man’s) DA.
    Had a coworker years ago that called that kind of adapter a “Cow cable” always made me laugh..

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad verbiage is changing for connectors!

  • @josephswarna4535
    @josephswarna4535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can we use this cables and how!?

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can use this cable anywhere you need a Y cable to split a signal. They are very useful in amplifier racks where you need to chain inputs to multiple amps, but also handy for other situations. Thanks for watching!

  • @Flea-Flicker
    @Flea-Flicker ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I watched the video, and I still have no idea what you would use this for.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you've used a splitter, any type of Y cables or either type of XLR turn arounds, this does all of that in one adapter. Lots of good comments here from folks on how they use them in different ways.

  • @DustySeven7
    @DustySeven7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Those terms need to be adjusted. That is just going to confuse people.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apprentice electricians seem to be able to handle it without confusion. Which part are you finding confusing? Maybe I'm biased because I'm fortunate to know a LOT of really smart audio professionals. Compared to even ten years ago though, most ppl working in pro audio now are getting network certifications and other WAY more confusing stuff accomplished. I'm 100% betting that the next generation of audio pros are going to be even smarter and brighter again. I hardly see updates to technical language as a serious concern for confusion.

    • @MON5TERMATT
      @MON5TERMATT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DcSoundOp doesn't matter I'll still call it male/female. Old habits. I do like the new terms, easier to differentiate between them.

    • @Mevi
      @Mevi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Myself, I understood exactly what was being meant by the "new" terms as they've been pretty commonly used for as long as I can remember and I'm in my 50s... Except maybe *receptical*... Yeah, I don't use that one. 🤭

    • @TomCee53
      @TomCee53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I carry both split and combine, which serve this purpose. I also have a box of hard and cable adapters including 6.3mm M/F, TS & TRS, and RCA. Maybe not universal, but quite useful. Oh, I almost forgot 3.5mm to RCA, 6.3, and XLR.
      I’ve thought about making a massive combo adapter, but reliability would suffer.

  • @montelcarlos143
    @montelcarlos143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏

  • @danensis
    @danensis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be a zed cable in Europe, not zee.

  • @alexbozas887
    @alexbozas887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol. genderless or binary / non binary terminology. Some.old sound techs will surely get the tech rider confused in future. We call these *specials* X or Y splitter cables.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      I cannot imagine a single situation where this would affect a technical rider honestly. Can you help me understand what you're talking about?

    • @alexbozas887
      @alexbozas887 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DcSoundOp i was referencing the proposed change in terminology for established names ( xlr / m & xlr /f )/ code/ description of connectors.. and not your video, which is helpful and a very good patch problem solver.

  • @EnpuerKT
    @EnpuerKT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We live in a society were we can’t even say female and male connectors.

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      We live in a society where you can say whatever you want to say George ✌🏼

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting cable I've seen it at least once or twice never in use.
    I'd be slightly concerned about using it as a combining cable as it would be easy to do. I did that way each channel mixer and it never worked right after that well it worked right but the PFL meter was wonky. Later I discovered a white people are called why not why.... Yeah driving outputs into other outputs not good. I like the idea of this cable but it seems like it could get used by and qualified individuals to possibly break something, or by qualified individuals in dark cavities late nights and lack of sleep.
    My vote for name would be "W" because that most represents it I think.
    oh Do we have a new name for the earth yet I don't like that we call it that so nobody can ever use it again.

  • @jondnz
    @jondnz ปีที่แล้ว

    6 and a half minute video and I still have no idea what this cable actually does

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you watch the whole video?

    • @jondnz
      @jondnz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DcSoundOp yes. Could just be my AV ignorance. I just wanted to see the cable in action so I can go "aha, that's what it does". Just watching one being made and talked about I'm like, huh???

  • @dpinskey
    @dpinskey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take it a step further and use gender benders on every connector to make it more useful for a greater variety of practical applications

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve got a video about the ConverCon connectors from a few months back… it involves a hammer 🔨 💥 th-cam.com/video/UFjFTgw5MRM/w-d-xo.html

    • @Videditor1067
      @Videditor1067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe one since they are so expensive and as mentioned above, can grow legs and "walk-away".

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Videditor1067 That's a great point, with four convert-con's you'd be into this adapter for like $70 before buying any cable... that's a bit steep alright. 😂

  • @seasonedmedia9820
    @seasonedmedia9820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zzzz cable!

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! Hope you’re doing great, are you at a new gig now?

    • @seasonedmedia9820
      @seasonedmedia9820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DcSoundOp yessir. Got myself a remote position with a more standard schedule. Freelancing on the side. Hope all is well on your side of the world!

    • @DcSoundOp
      @DcSoundOp  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seasonedmedia9820 Congrats, that’s awesome! All good here, ready for the weekend ✌🏼