how will this work?it's online.... but the app is to count steps...? i'm so lost.. could you maybe make a video explaining the Miles Managed event please?
The worst Harry Potter theory I ever heard was that Voldemort and Bellatrix secretly had a child who went back in time with Harry's kid. Can you even imagine?
Here's my theory that I hold sacred: The reason Voldemort became so antagonistic towards muggles was that his muggle father did the "got your nose" thing and it actually worked.
Very amusing. I always assumed he lost his nose because he got splinched, and pretended it was on purpose. But you're theory works too, maybe when he came home was to ask his dad for his nose back.
The biggest problem with the Dumbledore horcrux theory is that we know that a broken soul can be healed through remorse. Even if Dumbledore blames himself for Ariana's death, he absolutely feels remorse.
My fan theory is that Cursed Child is actually a stage play being performed by wizards off Diagon Alley, in which they are attempting to tell the story of the Delphi Lestrange incident by using no more solid information to write a script on than the tabloid explanations that they read about the fact, creating a wild and inaccurate retelling that currently has the members of the Golden Trio suing them.
The Reason why Dumbledore knew about Naghini being a Hocrux is, that Harry saw the Attack on Arthur Weasly through the eyes of the Snake. That connection war because both are Hocruxes.
In the Half-Blood Prince, what Dumbledore actually says he notices is “a strange connection between Voldemort and Nagini” (or something along those lines - I don’t have the book here right now), but you could be right in that the attack triggered Dumbledore’s suspicions.
@@levitentia In the begining of Goblet there is a line about Frank Brice being outside cant remember well but I think it goes "Nagini says there is a man outside the room". If I remember correctly there was never a hiss in the book.
Ots a good point but thats not what was happening. Harry always aaw things through voldemorts eyes (with the exception of the 2 times before voldemort got his body back). At that time voldemort was posessing the snake which is literally the only reason why harry could see from the snake's eyes
I don’t believe that Dumbledore could actually have used Ariana’s death to make a horcrux as it is not an act of evil and he regrets it for his entire life. This is not how making a horcrux works
Yeah, and additionally, regret is literally one of the things that destroys a Horcrux. Edit: Okay, the word used in the books was "remorse", not "regret". As pointed out by the many comments. I didn't think it would be such a big deal (especially since I was going off on memory). And technically you feel regret when you feel remorse for something. But I digress
Don’t forget that Young Dumbledore probably wouldn’t have known how to make a Horcrux, as Grindelwald presumably didn’t either because we never hear of him making one.
I have a theory about why Dumbledore seems so “omniscient” as Tom calls him. And, it ties into Dumbledore saying he doesn’t want to be removed from the chocolate frog cards. I think he put a kind of protean charm on them so that he can be informed anywhere his card is. Him disappearing from Harry’s card on the train is to tell himself that Harry made it safely on the train as an example.
Im pretty sure he just has a painting network of dumbledores that can report back to him. since living paintings can travel through other frames and tell what theyve seen.
@@christophercrafte the cards in my theory are acting more like Hermione’s coins. But, instead of a single one to send information to the others each card can send information to Dumbledore’s. More like the death eater mark.
lol i remember seeing a tumblr post about this. y'know this theory would also explain why, in OOTP, when the ministry strips away almost all of dumbledore's titles like chief warlock and stuff like that, the one thing they didn't take away was his chocolate frog cards and dumbledore said something about not caring if they took away his other titles as long as they kept his chocolate frog cards.
To be honest, I'm so used to watching Super Carlin Brothers theories and just going, "Yep, that's canon now," that I forgot there are theories out there I don't agree with.
Another problem with the Dursleys/Horcrux theory is, that if Harry had the same impact on people as the locket, Ron, Hermione and everyone else he spend his Hogwarts years with would also turn into horrible people
so... House elves are low key the most useful magical beings in the HP universe. Never mind the cooking and cleaning, there are spells for that sorta things. but their ability to perform advanced magic without wands, and apparate in and out of places where witches and wizards cannot, and bring people along when they do. The stories would ahve been significantly different if House Elves were just utilised properly. Draco had Dobby. He could have snuck back home, without using broom, floo, apparition, portkeyes or train at any point until Dobby was freed. He could have snuck around the school at will at night and just have dobby apparate him back to his bed if things got sketchy. Sirius had Kreecher. He could have entered Gryffindor tower at any point when hunting Wormtail. He could have called Kreecher while in Azkaban to break out. He could have used Kreecher to comunicate with harry without needing fireplaces... Harry could have asked Dobby to get them to Grimauld place when he saw the vision of Sirius. They could have used Dobby to get Harry safely from the Dursleys. Thus saving Moody and an ear. They could ahve used Dobby/kreecher to infiltrate the Ministry. They could have used Dobby/Kreecher to escape from the Ministry. They could probably have used Dobby/kreecher to get into Gringotts. They could have used House Elves at Hogwarts during the battle to quicker get from one position to another, carrying the Elves as backpacks with apparition capabilities, something non-Elf-equipped fighters wouldnt be able to do. House Elves are OP.
They're not specifically more powerful than wizards to be able to apparate where wizards can't, just that they have a different type of magic, wizards overlook them so much and consider them so inferior that they often don't block their magic
@@sanatprasad1594 I mean, sure. They wont be overthrowing the social order on their own. But under the right circumstances, they are like a cheat. Just imagine if the defenders had a strike force of 4-5 fighters with house elfs? Apparate into the middle of Voldemorts Army, blast off a Peter Pettigrew Special (the spell that "blew up an entire street") in different directions, and then apparating back out in about a second, before anyone have time to react. They could have turned the whole battle around in 4-5 jumps, breaking the Deatheaters' morale and causing them to rout.
@@w0t3rdog yeah that makes a lot of sense. I did wonder if there is some enchantment that prevents house elves apparating into and out of hogwarts, as we mainly only see them apparating around within the castle, but then I remembered Dobby entered the castle from outside to visit Harry in the hospital wing, then wasn't so sure. I'm sure Gringotts would have had protection against house elves, since they are very particular about security, and goblins are a lot less likely to overlook them
@@sanatprasad1594 yeah, Dobby visits Harry in the Hospital wing, mess with the Bludger, and... something alot of people tend to overlook: Why did Dobby go with Lucius to see Dumbledore? Because Dobby Apparated Lucius to Hogwarts ofcourse.
not to mention they can disarm wizards by SNAPPING THEIR FINGERS and they dont even need an infinity gauntlet.... get all the elves from the kitchen to disarm all the DE, and then apparate them all in the lake and let the squid get them...
The saddest? Absolutely. But is it the worst, really? From my perspective, there's no way to disprove that it did not really all happen inside Harry's head. Did we even get another person POV in the books?
To be honest, I don't see the the cursed child as canon. However, I love certain aspects of it, and take that as canon. Such as Albus being in Slytherin, him and Scorpius being friends, and Scorpius having a crush on Rose. I do like Harry and Draco being friendly-ish. But that's it. Albus had a normal school life. To me that's canon.
I’ve literally never heard of the theory of Ron and Dumbledore being the same person. I’m kinda shocked I’ve never heard it, especially with you saying the theory was that old
Same 😂 I was like "What?!" then hearing why they thought this might be the case made it sound kind of plausible. I mean it's far-fetched but I see now how they got to this conclusion
It was a theory that was running around long before the series was completed and before youtube was a thing and the theories were shared on long dead internet forums or fanfiction websites
I would’ve legit preferred a Harry Potter slice of life sequel than the Cursed Child. I even would’ve taken a series about the worst character ever conceived in the series: Delphini Riddle
What always seemed off about Dumbledore having an “immortal horcrux” is that I don’t think it would have worked that way. Consider the fact that Harry died. When he came back, it was without the horcrux that had lived inside him all those years. So if Fawkes had died, I think the Horcrux would have died with him, even though he would rise again from the ashes.
I’m sure in the thousands of years that Hogwarts has existed, Dennis Creevy wasn’t the only first year to fall out of the boat. I’m sure the Giant Squid monitors the boats each September to watch for falling students
Tom definitely sought the power to conquer death. Snape certainly wanted to save love from death. Harry simply doesn't fit here, and I don't think Dumbledore does either.
My bad Harry Potter theory is that in the original timeline Harry Potter grew up with his parents and became the worst dark wizard of all time, destroying all resistance and killing all non pure blood wizard humans in the world. Tom Riddle creates a time traveling spell different from the time turner that can change the past, goes back in time and creates the Voldemort persona with the sole purpose of killing baby Harry
For the final one: it said that each one must die at the hands of the other. And yes? That happened. Both died at the hands of the other. Profecy complete. Great job team.
Minor point, but wording was "...either must die at the hand of the other..." Interestingly, in this context, the word "either" does allow for "both," but it also allows for just one or just the other.
I never liked the 'Harry is immortal now' idea. Aside from being so-so at best, it is just a horribly cruel fate for Harry. Can you imagine it? Harry Potter, the man whose deepest regrets are that people died for him, has to then keep on living as everyone he loves grows old and dies around him, leaving him behind. That is just unimaginably cruel for someone like Harry.
I once heard a theory about Godric Gryffindor and his animagus form. I don’t remember all the details but essentially the theory was that his animagus form was a phoenix and his human form died but his phoenix form lived on to become Fawkes. Highly improbable with newer information but interesting that there’s more than one theory floating around about Griffyndor being an animal at Hogwarts
@@agustinfranco0 No clue. I assume just like any other animagus, but I’m not sure magical animal is possible. If anyone would have a magical animal though I would expect it to be a hogwarts founder. As for one dying while the other living, I’m again at a loss
I think hermione was abused at home. She has VERY few happy nemories and is a perfectionist, both of which usually happens from emotional abandonment. She seems to have trouble making friends and fears failing, possibly because her parents may pull their love away. (This crossed my mind when Harry says Hermione always has trouble with the patronus charm)
Her parents also refused to let her get her teeth magically fixed because it had to be done their way, which is slow and painful compared to the magical way. Not to mention teens often find braces humiliating
I don’t think she was abused, I’ve never noted any signs of neglect in her character. I do think her trouble casting the patronus is more rooted in her conflicted feelings in that year, her concerns and stresses, and an inability to call real happiness to the fore. Not that it isn’t there but that she’s too much a perfectionist to call on it on demand.
Could be possible, but parents can instill a drive for perfection in their kids and be stuck in their ways without being outright abusive, but I have wanted a theory to explain why she’s ok with barely seeing her parents after age 11.
I would LOVE a video on what the professors do during the summer holidays! Also, I was always curious as to what hagrid did during his summers before his dad died. OR what did he do during the summer after his dad died?? So many questions
If Harry is immortal, he didn't choose it. It would even fit with the theme "The only one who can become immortal is the one who doesn't care", and it would fit JK's love of symmetrical reflections between harry and voldy.
That's my view as well. Harry doesn't *choose* immortality, but if being the Master of Death was grounds for it, he would be immortal regardless of his own intentions on the matter. At least... until he actively chose to die (mirroring how his own ancestor willingly cast the cloak aside and embraced death as a friend).
I posted this the other day, but it ties in with number two on your list and why the Harry Horcrux didn't mess with the Dursleys the way that the locket messed with our Trio. Each time Voldemort split his soul the new Horcrux was less powerful than the previous ones. The diary was the first one and most powerful. It spawned a new Tom (yes I watched your video on that) and was able to fully take Ginny over. After this one 1/2 of the soul was in the book and 1/2 was in Voldemort. When he goes to make the ring he only has half of the soul normal people have so after that split it is 1/4 in him and 1/4 in the ring. Not as powerful as the dairy, but still does some good damage to Dumbledore. We don't see much interaction with the cup (1/8 of a "full soul") but we do see how much the locket (1/16 of a "full soul") impacts the Trio. It isn't able to physically control them, because it isn't as powerful as the diary, but it can still control their emotions. If all soul pieces were of equal strength then the Harry piece would be impacting the Dursleys and everyone Harry interacts with at school making them just as miserable as the locket. But if you follow that each time Voldemort split his soul he was splitting what was left in half then the Harry slice is only 1/64 of a "full soul." Also the intent to make each slice 1/7 from the start wouldn't work because then dairy through Harry would all have 1/7. Then when Voldemort goes to make what he thinks is the sixth (thus the seventh part) Horcrux he would only have 1/7 of a soul left to split between himself and Nagini. It helps if you picture pizza/pie/cake. Enjoy! 🥞🦡
I feel like trying to contextualise something as immaterial as a soul as splitting into traditional fractions is something of a fools errand. Nothing in the books indicated that each horcrux was weaker than the last, or somehow 'less', only that Voldemort become more unhinged with each fragmentation (which given the circumstances for creating a horcrux in the first place, is hardly surprising, even without the spiritual self-mutilation). The diary appeared the most powerful because it had unrestricted access to Ginny for almost an entire school year while she was willingly pouring herself into it. The only other horcrux we see interacting with people long enough to be notable (other than Harry who is protected by his mother's sacrifice, keeping the fragment dormant) is the locket, which is only ever surrounded by people who know precisely what it is and at least know to guard themselves as best they can from its influence (and even then it insidiously manages to slip into their psyche). Mundungus and Delores didn't have it long enough to make a notable effect, and it may have contributed to the decline of Kreacher's sanity in the interim. The Diadem, ring, and cup were destroyed immediately after being found, and Nagini is only ever around Death Eaters. There's no reason to believe every single Horcrux wasn't exactly as potentially dangerous and powerful as the diary, given the right circumstances (Or moreso, given they would have contained the memories of older, more powerful versions of Tom)
@@yash1756 I spend way too much time thinking about Harry Potter. Lol. But I really want them to do a video on this. Hopefully it eventually gets their attention. Lol.
I don't know that I buy your suggestion that the Dursleys WERENT impacted by the Harry horcrux. Look at the sheer depths of the evil they commit. The story goes out of its way to tell us that both evil and good are genetic traits, so it stands to reason Petunia was corrupted by something to become the way she is.
If Ron was Dumbledore, then he must have really been getting dementia there at the end, because he dropped the ball tons of times throughout the series😂
In terms of that last theory, it was Voldemort's own spell that killed him, yes it was redirected by Harry, but the killing part was all him. So theoretically Harry could die by one of their hands still, it would just be his own. This does make me wonder what would happen if Voldemort surrendered or tried to retreat during the Battle of Hogwarts, because nobody could kill him except Harry or maybe Neville still, and I'm not sure if Harry would do that.
@@Cailus3542 I'd equate it to the scene in the first Tobey Maguire Spider Man movie where he jumps to avoid the glider at the end of the movie. If you think Spider Man killed the Green Goblin by avoiding the glider then fair enough, I would say it was death by their own hands as the lethal component came from the villains themselves, I can understand both sides though, it's an interesting thought experiment nonetheless.
My favorite theory is that the wizard (with all the access to magic implied, such as the ability to have flying vehicles and/or travel via fireplaces) who is really rich (with the ability to get elves, and lots of things that he could just give away) and old (so not visibly aging anymore, and possibly combined with rich able to get around various laws against dangerous magic), named Nicholas… is the same as some other character in other works named Nicholas who gives lots of presents via flying vehicle and fireplace travel, with the help of elves, in an amount of time that should not be possible, and who hasnʼt visibly aged since 1823 and has probably been around a lot longer. The only thing that doesnʼt fit is that the St. Nicholas Iʼm thinking of is thought to have been born in 270, over a thousand years before Flamel, but he might have gotten the Stone earlier than advertised and only decided to actually settle down back then.
I believe that as master of death Harry can only die when he chooses to do so. The chapter where he's in kings cross with Dumbledore only makes sense in this context.
iF Hagrid theories are so popular, I really think you should make a video about How Powerful Hagrid would be if he finished Hogwarts and what would be the implications of in the books since Tom would have to blame someone else or just stay in the shadows. C'mon the only other half giant is the HEAD of a whole school of magic
Helga has already brought incredibly strong creatures to Hogwarts^^ The House elves that work in the kitchens.. As for Rowena.. My biggest guess would be Hippogriffs or Centaurs.
@@giocommentary Oh, the Elves are Helga's magical creatures? That's cool. Is there a special connection between the students of Hufflepuff and the Elves? Rowena - a thunderbird like raven creature?
that was just insulting, thats why i dont even pay attention to what JK says anymore, its clear she doesnt care about the story anymore, she went crazy with ego and fame
@@agustinfranco0 Don't judge JK too harshly. It's not easy to go through the Hollywood machine and not get corrupted with the dollar signs in your eyes. Maybe she can resist and eventually shake it off.
@@PhilBagels true, im not saying it like i would be any better, im just saying i dont care whatever she says anymore i trust the logic and deduction of ultra fans like SCB a lot more, some things they've come up with make too much sense for it not to be true, no matter what JK says
Ron being Dumbledore is silly, but he's likely much more powerful than people think. I mean, using a broken wand somewhat successfully for his entire second year?
Something I’ve always thought about. Harry cheated death twice. Why didn’t death came and offer his something neat. I know both times they were unintentional so he technically didn’t outsmart death. But it would have been cool otherwise. And more of that beautiful Deathly Hallows animation would be VERY welcome.
Technically, Harry never did unite the Hallows. While he *may* have had the wand's loyalty (I have a theory that it was not the real elder wand but a replica) he never physically had all the Hallows at the same time. He dropped the stone in the forest before ever getting possession of the wand.
He had already gotten control of Draco’s wand at that point(and thus, the loyalty of both the unicorn hair and elder wands) though, so he would have been the true master of all three Hallows. Esp as he was wearing the invisibility cloak and holding the stone on the way to meet Voldemort and the elder wand.
"Harry would never choose immortality." Maybe, Probably even, but it's not always a Choice. Sometimes, people are Cursed with immortality, other times they're Gifted it, without the ability to refuse. Either way, whether or not Harry Potter is Immortal;only time will tell.
I have read about someone who claims by all means that Bellatrix was a Hufflepuff because she had to be very hard working to be so good at the dark arts and was extremely loyal to Voldemort.
Counterpoint: Hufflepuff isn't where hard workers go. It's where people who have no defining characteristics of value go. They get told they're there because they're hard workers so that they don't cry more than any reasonable person would when told they're going to the house where leftovers and losers end up.
@@survivordave I mean, I guess she found a very clear purpose in life, who she is and het "true love" (ugh ugh obsession isn't love in my opinion) which aren't things that are always easy to find.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 Thank you for your reaction. I would like to strongly defend my house, but I feel that you aren't really open to the equality of all the houses and true meaning of Hufflepuff. So I won't bother. There are many of us who are very willing to defend the Hufflepuff honour online. So I will let them do their things and if you want to read up about Hufflepuff, you can at anytime (I recommend the memes). I hope you are willing to be a little openminded for the idea that there are no "people with no defining characteristics and values" as we all have them. But honestly, I am just happy I am a Hufflepuff and that there are people who allow me to be proud of it. I wish the same for fellow Hufflepuffs (and all others of course) who are reading this.
@@Smartie234 You sure you're not a Gryffindor instead? Because that's a lot of self-righteous pride you're spouting in response to a fairly obvious joke.
I’ve heard of the Godrich Gryffindor is a squid one before, but I think the squid might have been quadrics idea so the basilisk was actually designed to defend the interior of the school and a giant squid was the stop sea attack
I had a theory that Creedance was actually Arianna's obscures made into a person by Dumbledore eho was trying to resurrect her using a philosopher's stone.
The Dumbledore Horcrux theory will always have a special place in my heart as it introduced me to SCB (the first channel I ever subscribed to)! A lot has changed since then, but these videos have always been a much-appreciated source of stability! Thanks for all that you & your team do 😊
Day 13 of politely asking the brothers to do a what if if Sirius took Harry the night his parents died, therefore not going after Peter, and Harry was raised by Sirius instead of the Dursleys?
Sirius: "I will take the boy and raise him." Dumbledore: "Unfortunately, the boy must be raised by the muggles. Lily's sacrificial protection lives on in her sister's blood. As long as the place Harry calls home is where Lily's sister lives, Voldemort will not be able to touch him."
I still maintain that JKR's tweet was **NOT** a denial. I also believe that Fawkes' having been a Horcrux explains the golden flame that Harry's wand shot at Voldemort of its own accord. There would have been a **TINY** bit of Dumbledore in that tailfeather, and Dumbledore was the only one in the books who ever shot a golden flame from his wand. The wand learns from the wizard, the wizard learns from the wand.
Rowling's tweets are also not canon to the story either. Authors are not infallible. The only thing that counts as part of the story are the things that make it into the story. None of her tweets change the canon. What's in the books, is in the books, and what's not, isn't. If what she MEANT to put in the books doesn't match what's ACTUALLY in the books, that doesn't mean what she says is correct, it means she failed to do her job as an author.
What I never understood about the Horkrux theory is this: If the Horkrux had that big an influence on the Dursleys that they abused Harry, why doesn't it seem to affect anyone else? Take Ron and Hermione for instance. Ron in particular shared a dorm (and from Chamber of Secrets his room at home) with Harry for years and the three of them spent most of their time together. We see the effect the locket has on Ron but nothing similar in the years beforehand. And yeah, maybe the locket has a stronger effect because of the closer proximity as they are wearing it, but it HAS been six years, more than enough time.
And not to mention Harry was around the Weasley for literally MONTHS (in total) (& around his friends (& teachers) for months, too & they're all perfectly "lovely" to him (well, minus Snape)!! 😅😊😉
The Dumbledore is an aged Ron is disproved in the order of the phoenix when the head instructor asks Umbridge about Dumbledore. She than reveals she tested him herself and the things he could do with a wand were amazing the ministry will never catch him. The theory should have never gotten passed that point
I could have sworn that back in the early 2000s JK herself said in an interview that the snake in book one was Nagini but the after the last book came out she was all "what, no that snake's not Nagini, that's crazy"
I would rebut that last sentiment of the final theory with this: Harry might not choose immortality but he could still receive it. This also parallels the sorceror's stone arc, because he did receive the stone without meaning to. The immortal Harry theory would make for an interesting continuation of the series or Wizarding World myth for Harry to become a reluctant immortal.
The relationship between Dumbledore and Fawkes, and how and why Fawkes gave two feathers to Ollivander to makes wands out off, is explained by the fanfic I love the most: Shiny and Blue by der Mondstrahl. It’s completely canon compliant and gives loads of background to everything. :)
Do you think if someone saw a person going through the veil they would be able to see thestrals? Or just seeing the veil will allow you to see thestrals?
I would imagine that you would actually have to see someone falling into the veil. Since you have to physically watch someone die to see a thestral. Otherwise I feel his mother's death would count for him to see them. Granted this is just my opinion.
i think this could be possible if you had a personal connection to the person in the veil. i believe emotional connection is important when seeing the death or every time someone saw a bug die they'd be able to see thestrals.
@@lumlee3536 this is really interesting, I hadn't thought about that, do you think then that maybe Voldemort couldn't see thestrals as he has no personal connection with anyone?
@@laurar1816 I think negative emotional connection would also work. in a sense, voldemort had a strong negative emotional connection to his family, i'd imagine killing myrtle warren in the bathroom of hogwarts didn't give him the ability to see thestrals, but killing his muggle father may have (also his uncle)
My theory on the whole "Immortal Harry" thing is a little different. I like to think that Harry is immortal to some extent. Specifically because of the line in the story of the Three Brothers "And he greeted Death as an old friend." In my mind that meant that the Master of Death, in thus case Harry, will gain the ability to live until they choose to die, at which point the MoD will/must greet Death as an old friend. I also like the theory that not just anyone can be the MoD, but only those from the Peverell Family.
I worst Harry Potter theory I ever heard was that since wizards and witches usually produce magical offspring with either each other or muggles, magic is a dominant trait, and therefore most of the human race should be magical.
Umm, technically it is dominant because squibs are a thing. It just they are different species evolved from a same spot, random mutations would account for the mud bloods.
@@ked49 No, if they were different species, they wouldn't be able to breed, or if they could, their offspring would be unable to reproduce, like Ligars. But Muggles and Wizards are able to reproduce, and their children can have children, so Wizards are literally just Humans with Magic.
@@TheSpencermacdougall Well, the theory was due to the fact that wizards are such a tiny proportion of the human population. If you extend the scope of human history beyond the events in the books, wizards should have multiplied far beyond the scope of the muggle population by the year 1991.
This is not a bad theory, just a plothole in the HP universe. Squibs are incredibly rare, much rarer than Muggle born magical children. Also, the child of a Wizard/Witch and a Muggle is usually also magical. So if logic is applied, Wizardkind should get more and more populous and since Wizards have probably existed for as long as Muggles, I don't see how there can still be more Muggles than Wizardkind.
There are multiple reasons why the "the Dursleys hate Harry because he's a horcrux" theory doesn't make sense. Yeah, there's the whole thing about Petunia hating magic long before Harry was born. But apart from that, there's also just the fact that Ron and the other Gryffindors aren't affected by living with Harry for 6 years?
Pretty much. The combination of the Horcrux and Lily's sacrifice bound Harry and Voldemort to each other, making them both immortal. While one lived, the other survived. After the destruction of Harry's Horcrux and Voldemort's death, both 'died', the prophecy came to full fruition, and Harry (for the first time since he was a baby) became perfectly ordinary once again.
You are litteraly misinterpreting it youself. "“You see, the prophecy does not mean you have to do anything! But the prophecy caused Lord Voldemort to mark you as his equal. . . . In other words, you are free to choose your way, quite free to turn your back on the prophecy! But Voldemort continues to set store by the prophecy. He will continue to hunt you . . . which makes it certain, really, that -” “That one of us is going to end up killing the other,” said Harry." If Voldemort didn't care about the prophecy then it wouldn't come true. If he hadnt killed Harry's parents then it possibly wouldnt come true. “But,” said Harry, bewildered, “but last year, you said one of us would have to kill the other -” “Harry, Harry, only because Voldemort made a grave error, and acted on Professor Trelawney’s words! If Voldemort had never mur- dered your father, would he have imparted in you a furious desire for revenge? Of course not!" “If Voldemort had never heard of the prophecy, would it have been fulfilled? Would it have meant anything? Of course not! Do you think every prophecy in the Hall of Prophecy has been ful- filled?”
I agree full credit to the Carlin brothers for fantastic beasts. Ok I know the Ron / Dumbledore theory has holes like a box of donuts but still, I love it lol.
8:25 Correction: (I know that I shouldn’t be saying this but correct me if I’m wrong) I think that Time-Turners can travel more than 5 hours, but it’s very risky as you age however much you time traveled back (for example, if you go 1 year back, you’d age 1 year)
7:50 Like the peach in Milo Murphy's Law? If i can remember correctly: There are two sets of two time travelers, one set is 15 minutes behind the other. Team one come up to some unseen yet danger and a peach is thrown at them to warn them, Cavendish is confused about it, but Dakota picks it up to possibly eat later. They continue and 15 minutes later they see their past selves (team two) coming towards the same unseen danger. Wanting to warn them, Cavendish looks for something to signal to them and Dakota gives him the peach which he uses. 'Wait? Where did you get that peach from?' 'Someone threw it at you and i picked it up' 'But that someone was me.' 'I know, i just gave it to you' 'But where did you get it from?' 'Someone threw it at you and I picked it up' 'but that someone was me.' 'I know i just gave it to you.'
On one hand, I agree that the Dursleys are already intolerant to wizards, but, on the other hand, it would be a pretty big plot hole for the horcrux to affect Ron but not the Dursleys (especially given how long they lived with it). So, while it was always going to happen that they were going to try their best to stomp any magical "nonsense" out of him, I don't know that they would have always treated him quite as badly as they did. I mean, if they hated him that much from the get go, why take him in at all? If they were, for instance, scared to refuse him because a powerful wizard demanded they care for him, why would they suddenly no longer fear the powerful wizard when it came to quality of care?
I think it wouldn't be a plot hole if the Dursleys weren't affected by the Horcrux. Harry was living being, not an object imbued with a soul piece and dark magic. It's entirely possible that him being alive with a will of his own changes that particular aspect of Horcruxes. Plus, Ron and Hermione spend a lot of time around Harry, but they don't act more negative and abuse him.
I've always liked this theory and to call it one of the worst or to say it's been disproved doesn't feel fair. One thing I would say is that different Horcruxes seem to have different effects on those around them (the diary, for example, is very different from the locket). Because the books were written for children, some of what happens (particularly in The Philosopher's Stone) feels disconnected from the rest of the series. The Dursleys keeping Harry in a cupboard under the stairs feels(for most of us) like cartoon levels of villainous parental behaviour and so we look for ways to explain it. The books are told from Harry's perspective, we are meant to empathise with and like Harry, yet many people outside of Gryffindor don't and so we look to understand that too. This theory could explain some of the unrealistic narrative.
{Dumbledore's horcrux theory} Without delving tooooo deep, it does seem fairly plausible. And a good idea for almost perfect immortality. However (upon further thinking), I don't think albus would subject fawkes to that kind of dark magic, especially since he has to bear it for eternity
The other issue with the theory of the Dursleys being cruel because of the Horcrux in Harry, particularly the part about Ron being most impacted because he's used to comfort...is Hermione. She's also there, she's also around it, and she's also used to comfort. Arguably more than Ron, considering that while, yes, she did have to go through the culture shock of evening the wizarding world at 11, she's never shown to have financial hardship and seems to have perfectly lovely parents and general stability in her life. By that logic she should also be grossly changed by the locket.
The last one... Harry was being rooted to life by the piece of Riddle's soul that was inside of him. Tom Riddle himself killed that part of his own soul and stopped Harry from being immortal.
Now we need a "Most/Least impactful if true" video and a "Theories that disprove the most other theories list". I would also love a ranking/reaction/playthrough video series of all the Harry Potter video games.
The actual worst theories: anything along the lines of “none of the story ever happened and was just a fever dream of this character or that character, who’s actually just mentally disturbed.”
While I haven't watched as many of your videos, I do love them, and love watching them when falling asleep or just watching videos mid day. Thanks for another great video!
What about the theory that there was a big war between muggles and wizards which cause the wizard population to be so small? This one is souly based on the big size of the Weasley family and ignoring that all other families in the HP universes have a max of 2 - 3 children.
There would be no "war" between them.... no matter how strong Muggle weapons may have been, Wizards have MANY spells and wards that not even magic can get through.
Day 3 of politely posing the proposition to the brothers of doing a “What if Merope Gaunt had survived Childbirth?” video. The author has stated that had Merope lived, and raised Tom instead of the orphanage, things would have turned out very differently. I’m curious if you folks think that Tom was actually born evil; preventing a mother’s love from changing his fate, or if a parental figure may have helped him become an even greater wizard than the likes of Dumbledore. Thanks as always for your hard work and creativity with he videos!
Heya Ben, I have not been around "forever" Yet, I have a question? Are you saying "Towel Section below"? and can you explain Please? I do not have other theories but I do enjoy watching your Harry Potter content, I am re-reading and up to book 6 this time around . . . Thanks to everyone at SCB!
I think Dumbledore knew that Ron was loyal and sees the opposite of himself in him.. I think Dumbledore had regrets and didn’t want Ron to have those same regrets and gave him the deluminator so he can return to his friends (family); the thing Dumbledore never could do after Ariana’s death
For the last theory, I personally feel that Harry is the master of death and is immortal only when it comes to non-natural forms of death. However, if he was to fall from a broomstick or get dragonpox he is as mortal as any other wizard. Similarly, how the DA and the Order became immortal (resisting harmful spells) after Harry sacrificed himself for them. Yet, they can still die from natural causes.
Have you ever thought about what happens to people when they enter the pensieve? What if you go into a memory of going into a pensieve? How many pensieve's deep can you go?
I kind of like the "the drsleys are mean bc harrys a horcrux' theory but its also disproven by the 7 books themselves. Why would the dursleys be corrupted by that stuff but hermione and ron arent? They spent a lot more time and were a lot closer to him than the durselys were.
Worst theory: Harry is actually a flying pig, and fell asleep on a cloud, and the whole seiries is a dream.all the spells whooshing are airplanes flying past, all the explosions are bats with bombs taped to them, and all the talking is radios that raindrops are listening to.
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The worst Harry Potter theory I ever heard was that Voldemort and Bellatrix secretly had a child who went back in time with Harry's kid. Can you even imagine?
Everyone is sleeping I can not be laughing this hard 😂😂😂
Waiting for someone to not get that this is a joke
Possibly the dumbest fan theory ever.... wait a minute.
Yes we get it, the cursed child was bad. Very funny
For Voldemort and valour. SMH 🤦🏼♂️
Here's my theory that I hold sacred: The reason Voldemort became so antagonistic towards muggles was that his muggle father did the "got your nose" thing and it actually worked.
○_○ (dies of laughter)
More likely it was because his father abandoned him before he was born.
@@DavidRay_40 And took his nose with him.
Very amusing. I always assumed he lost his nose because he got splinched, and pretended it was on purpose.
But you're theory works too, maybe when he came home was to ask his dad for his nose back.
I thought he ran into the wrong brick wall at King's Cross...his nose was the only casualty.
The biggest problem with the Dumbledore horcrux theory is that we know that a broken soul can be healed through remorse. Even if Dumbledore blames himself for Ariana's death, he absolutely feels remorse.
Except you also have to feel like you deserve forgiveness,
No, actually, the biggest hole in the theory is that a Horcrux has to be INTENTIONALLY made, with malace and intent. Dumbledore had neither of those
@potato yes, by ACTIVELY trying to kill his mother, out of rage and anger.... like I said, Dumbledore had neither of those
@potato Well, they do have a theory that Voldy was already going to use Harry to make a horcrux, but everything backfired.
@@captainspaulding5963 And his sole was already fractured at that point.
My fan theory is that Cursed Child is actually a stage play being performed by wizards off Diagon Alley, in which they are attempting to tell the story of the Delphi Lestrange incident by using no more solid information to write a script on than the tabloid explanations that they read about the fact, creating a wild and inaccurate retelling that currently has the members of the Golden Trio suing them.
Lol that would genuinely be hilarious.
This is now a Cannon event
YES PLEASE. that’s perfect
That's absolutely brilliant
This is my headcanon now.
The Reason why Dumbledore knew about Naghini being a Hocrux is, that Harry saw the Attack on Arthur Weasly through the eyes of the Snake. That connection war because both are Hocruxes.
In the Half-Blood Prince, what Dumbledore actually says he notices is “a strange connection between Voldemort and Nagini” (or something along those lines - I don’t have the book here right now), but you could be right in that the attack triggered Dumbledore’s suspicions.
@@levitentia In the begining of Goblet there is a line about Frank Brice being outside cant remember well but I think it goes "Nagini says there is a man outside the room". If I remember correctly there was never a hiss in the book.
Ots a good point but thats not what was happening. Harry always aaw things through voldemorts eyes (with the exception of the 2 times before voldemort got his body back). At that time voldemort was posessing the snake which is literally the only reason why harry could see from the snake's eyes
@@levitentianagini wasnt an horrorcrux then yet, naggini become an horrorcrux with the death of batilda gagshot
@@populiqama123That's what I thought, but they also seem to think that since they mention it in their what if James kept the cloak video
I don’t believe that Dumbledore could actually have used Ariana’s death to make a horcrux as it is not an act of evil and he regrets it for his entire life. This is not how making a horcrux works
Yeah, and additionally, regret is literally one of the things that destroys a Horcrux.
Edit: Okay, the word used in the books was "remorse", not "regret". As pointed out by the many comments. I didn't think it would be such a big deal (especially since I was going off on memory). And technically you feel regret when you feel remorse for something. But I digress
Don’t forget that Young Dumbledore probably wouldn’t have known how to make a Horcrux, as Grindelwald presumably didn’t either because we never hear of him making one.
dark magic is evil. and its remorse to get rid of pain but he felt he deserved it
@@edwinvanterpool2065 what?
We really don't even know how a horcrux is made
I have a theory about why Dumbledore seems so “omniscient” as Tom calls him. And, it ties into Dumbledore saying he doesn’t want to be removed from the chocolate frog cards. I think he put a kind of protean charm on them so that he can be informed anywhere his card is. Him disappearing from Harry’s card on the train is to tell himself that Harry made it safely on the train as an example.
I like this theory. Utilizing the "him" on chocolate frog cards as a spy network
Im pretty sure he just has a painting network of dumbledores that can report back to him. since living paintings can travel through other frames and tell what theyve seen.
@christopher crafte which is the cards..
You literally just repeated the original comment
@@christophercrafte the cards in my theory are acting more like Hermione’s coins. But, instead of a single one to send information to the others each card can send information to Dumbledore’s. More like the death eater mark.
lol i remember seeing a tumblr post about this. y'know this theory would also explain why, in OOTP, when the ministry strips away almost all of dumbledore's titles like chief warlock and stuff like that, the one thing they didn't take away was his chocolate frog cards and dumbledore said something about not caring if they took away his other titles as long as they kept his chocolate frog cards.
To be honest, I'm so used to watching Super Carlin Brothers theories and just going, "Yep, that's canon now," that I forgot there are theories out there I don't agree with.
Same lol
Yeah I'm pretty sure I just logged "Snape killed Hedwig" away as fact??? 😂 This was fun to explore though!
@@Vi_Vi_1same 😂😂
As far as I am concerned, they are a source of canon.
Well, between Ariana being an Obscurial and Nagini being a Maledictus, some of their theories actually *are* canon now.
Another problem with the Dursleys/Horcrux theory is, that if Harry had the same impact on people as the locket, Ron, Hermione and everyone else he spend his Hogwarts years with would also turn into horrible people
so... House elves are low key the most useful magical beings in the HP universe. Never mind the cooking and cleaning, there are spells for that sorta things. but their ability to perform advanced magic without wands, and apparate in and out of places where witches and wizards cannot, and bring people along when they do.
The stories would ahve been significantly different if House Elves were just utilised properly.
Draco had Dobby. He could have snuck back home, without using broom, floo, apparition, portkeyes or train at any point until Dobby was freed. He could have snuck around the school at will at night and just have dobby apparate him back to his bed if things got sketchy.
Sirius had Kreecher. He could have entered Gryffindor tower at any point when hunting Wormtail. He could have called Kreecher while in Azkaban to break out. He could have used Kreecher to comunicate with harry without needing fireplaces...
Harry could have asked Dobby to get them to Grimauld place when he saw the vision of Sirius. They could have used Dobby to get Harry safely from the Dursleys. Thus saving Moody and an ear. They could ahve used Dobby/kreecher to infiltrate the Ministry. They could have used Dobby/Kreecher to escape from the Ministry. They could probably have used Dobby/kreecher to get into Gringotts. They could have used House Elves at Hogwarts during the battle to quicker get from one position to another, carrying the Elves as backpacks with apparition capabilities, something non-Elf-equipped fighters wouldnt be able to do.
House Elves are OP.
They're not specifically more powerful than wizards to be able to apparate where wizards can't, just that they have a different type of magic, wizards overlook them so much and consider them so inferior that they often don't block their magic
@@sanatprasad1594 I mean, sure. They wont be overthrowing the social order on their own. But under the right circumstances, they are like a cheat. Just imagine if the defenders had a strike force of 4-5 fighters with house elfs? Apparate into the middle of Voldemorts Army, blast off a Peter Pettigrew Special (the spell that "blew up an entire street") in different directions, and then apparating back out in about a second, before anyone have time to react. They could have turned the whole battle around in 4-5 jumps, breaking the Deatheaters' morale and causing them to rout.
@@w0t3rdog yeah that makes a lot of sense. I did wonder if there is some enchantment that prevents house elves apparating into and out of hogwarts, as we mainly only see them apparating around within the castle, but then I remembered Dobby entered the castle from outside to visit Harry in the hospital wing, then wasn't so sure. I'm sure Gringotts would have had protection against house elves, since they are very particular about security, and goblins are a lot less likely to overlook them
@@sanatprasad1594 yeah, Dobby visits Harry in the Hospital wing, mess with the Bludger, and... something alot of people tend to overlook: Why did Dobby go with Lucius to see Dumbledore? Because Dobby Apparated Lucius to Hogwarts ofcourse.
not to mention they can disarm wizards by SNAPPING THEIR FINGERS and they dont even need an infinity gauntlet....
get all the elves from the kitchen to disarm all the DE, and then apparate them all in the lake and let the squid get them...
The actual worst theory is that due to neglect and abuse from the Dursleys, the entire series is made up in Harry’s head….
The saddest? Absolutely. But is it the worst, really? From my perspective, there's no way to disprove that it did not really all happen inside Harry's head. Did we even get another person POV in the books?
@@peshokatarov I think the beginning of Half-Blood Prince is the muggle minster's POV?
Ah, you might be right. It's been a while since I last read the books. :)
@@peshokatarov“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”
The worst theories always involve coma, iagined, or dream.
To be honest, I don't see the the cursed child as canon. However, I love certain aspects of it, and take that as canon. Such as Albus being in Slytherin, him and Scorpius being friends, and Scorpius having a crush on Rose. I do like Harry and Draco being friendly-ish. But that's it. Albus had a normal school life. To me that's canon.
Canon has one N
@@Rhodochrone I umm... can't spell. Thanks though, I will change that.
I’ve literally never heard of the theory of Ron and Dumbledore being the same person. I’m kinda shocked I’ve never heard it, especially with you saying the theory was that old
Same 😂 I was like "What?!" then hearing why they thought this might be the case made it sound kind of plausible. I mean it's far-fetched but I see now how they got to this conclusion
Really? It was probably the first theory about Harry Potter that I heard.
@@vh5636 it makes some reasonable sense all the way up to the 7th book
It would just be so Ron-like to make up the name "Albus Wulfric Percival Brian Dumbledore" for himself 😂
It was a theory that was running around long before the series was completed and before youtube was a thing and the theories were shared on long dead internet forums or fanfiction websites
I would’ve legit preferred a Harry Potter slice of life sequel than the Cursed Child. I even would’ve taken a series about the worst character ever conceived in the series: Delphini Riddle
Just read james potter and the hall of elders crossing. The real HP8
What always seemed off about Dumbledore having an “immortal horcrux” is that I don’t think it would have worked that way. Consider the fact that Harry died. When he came back, it was without the horcrux that had lived inside him all those years. So if Fawkes had died, I think the Horcrux would have died with him, even though he would rise again from the ashes.
maybe not if it dies of old age, but def yes when he swallows the AK from voldy at the ministry
I’m sure in the thousands of years that Hogwarts has existed, Dennis Creevy wasn’t the only first year to fall out of the boat. I’m sure the Giant Squid monitors the boats each September to watch for falling students
That may very well be the reason it's there in the first place.
Great video as always, my favorite Theory is that Harry, Snape and Tom represent the three brothers while Dumbledore represents Death.
Completely random IMO. What does tie Harry, Tom and Severus together like brothers?
@@countluke2334 watch the detailed theory and you'll understand, it's rather a pretty serious theory and probably even canon
That's not really a theory, just an interpretation. A parallel that one might notice.
Tom definitely sought the power to conquer death. Snape certainly wanted to save love from death. Harry simply doesn't fit here, and I don't think Dumbledore does either.
@PhilBagels ....... that's, exactly what a theory is, though.... an interpretation
My bad Harry Potter theory is that in the original timeline Harry Potter grew up with his parents and became the worst dark wizard of all time, destroying all resistance and killing all non pure blood wizard humans in the world. Tom Riddle creates a time traveling spell different from the time turner that can change the past, goes back in time and creates the Voldemort persona with the sole purpose of killing baby Harry
A spinoff on this idea will be amazing!!!!! WOW!
And the resulting timeline turns Harry into the most powerful light wizard
Way to turn Voldemort into the hero! I'd read those books
Better then Cursed Child
Yep
For the final one: it said that each one must die at the hands of the other. And yes? That happened. Both died at the hands of the other. Profecy complete. Great job team.
Minor point, but wording was "...either must die at the hand of the other..." Interestingly, in this context, the word "either" does allow for "both," but it also allows for just one or just the other.
Harry was more in a Coma(?) like state. While Voldemort was just straight up killed
@@John_The_Eeveechu The in universe explination is that he died and returned to life. Tethered like a horcrux does.
I never liked the 'Harry is immortal now' idea. Aside from being so-so at best, it is just a horribly cruel fate for Harry. Can you imagine it? Harry Potter, the man whose deepest regrets are that people died for him, has to then keep on living as everyone he loves grows old and dies around him, leaving him behind. That is just unimaginably cruel for someone like Harry.
Yeah, immortality is, in my opinion, not a gift, just a curse that can never end
I once heard a theory about Godric Gryffindor and his animagus form. I don’t remember all the details but essentially the theory was that his animagus form was a phoenix and his human form died but his phoenix form lived on to become Fawkes. Highly improbable with newer information but interesting that there’s more than one theory floating around about Griffyndor being an animal at Hogwarts
interesting, how would a phoenix animagus work....
@@agustinfranco0 No clue. I assume just like any other animagus, but I’m not sure magical animal is possible. If anyone would have a magical animal though I would expect it to be a hogwarts founder. As for one dying while the other living, I’m again at a loss
While it's definitely interesting, I think that if the founders were animagus, they would be their respective house's animal.
You should do one where Voldemorts mom survives, or one where Merope doesn't stop giving Tom Riddle Sr. The love potion.
"Harry goes from The Boy Who Lived to The Boy Who LIVES... and keeps living!"
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I think hermione was abused at home. She has VERY few happy nemories and is a perfectionist, both of which usually happens from emotional abandonment. She seems to have trouble making friends and fears failing, possibly because her parents may pull their love away. (This crossed my mind when Harry says Hermione always has trouble with the patronus charm)
Her parents also refused to let her get her teeth magically fixed because it had to be done their way, which is slow and painful compared to the magical way. Not to mention teens often find braces humiliating
@@janavanbellingen8531 oh my god, I always wondered why she was discribed with bug teeth, but her parents were dentists?? :0
This would explain why she spends most of her holidays away from home
I don’t think she was abused, I’ve never noted any signs of neglect in her character. I do think her trouble casting the patronus is more rooted in her conflicted feelings in that year, her concerns and stresses, and an inability to call real happiness to the fore. Not that it isn’t there but that she’s too much a perfectionist to call on it on demand.
Could be possible, but parents can instill a drive for perfection in their kids and be stuck in their ways without being outright abusive, but I have wanted a theory to explain why she’s ok with barely seeing her parents after age 11.
I would LOVE a video on what the professors do during the summer holidays! Also, I was always curious as to what hagrid did during his summers before his dad died. OR what did he do during the summer after his dad died?? So many questions
If Harry is immortal, he didn't choose it. It would even fit with the theme "The only one who can become immortal is the one who doesn't care", and it would fit JK's love of symmetrical reflections between harry and voldy.
That's my view as well. Harry doesn't *choose* immortality, but if being the Master of Death was grounds for it, he would be immortal regardless of his own intentions on the matter. At least... until he actively chose to die (mirroring how his own ancestor willingly cast the cloak aside and embraced death as a friend).
I posted this the other day, but it ties in with number two on your list and why the Harry Horcrux didn't mess with the Dursleys the way that the locket messed with our Trio. Each time Voldemort split his soul the new Horcrux was less powerful than the previous ones. The diary was the first one and most powerful. It spawned a new Tom (yes I watched your video on that) and was able to fully take Ginny over. After this one 1/2 of the soul was in the book and 1/2 was in Voldemort. When he goes to make the ring he only has half of the soul normal people have so after that split it is 1/4 in him and 1/4 in the ring. Not as powerful as the dairy, but still does some good damage to Dumbledore. We don't see much interaction with the cup (1/8 of a "full soul") but we do see how much the locket (1/16 of a "full soul") impacts the Trio. It isn't able to physically control them, because it isn't as powerful as the diary, but it can still control their emotions. If all soul pieces were of equal strength then the Harry piece would be impacting the Dursleys and everyone Harry interacts with at school making them just as miserable as the locket. But if you follow that each time Voldemort split his soul he was splitting what was left in half then the Harry slice is only 1/64 of a "full soul." Also the intent to make each slice 1/7 from the start wouldn't work because then dairy through Harry would all have 1/7. Then when Voldemort goes to make what he thinks is the sixth (thus the seventh part) Horcrux he would only have 1/7 of a soul left to split between himself and Nagini. It helps if you picture pizza/pie/cake. Enjoy! 🥞🦡
I feel like trying to contextualise something as immaterial as a soul as splitting into traditional fractions is something of a fools errand. Nothing in the books indicated that each horcrux was weaker than the last, or somehow 'less', only that Voldemort become more unhinged with each fragmentation (which given the circumstances for creating a horcrux in the first place, is hardly surprising, even without the spiritual self-mutilation). The diary appeared the most powerful because it had unrestricted access to Ginny for almost an entire school year while she was willingly pouring herself into it. The only other horcrux we see interacting with people long enough to be notable (other than Harry who is protected by his mother's sacrifice, keeping the fragment dormant) is the locket, which is only ever surrounded by people who know precisely what it is and at least know to guard themselves as best they can from its influence (and even then it insidiously manages to slip into their psyche). Mundungus and Delores didn't have it long enough to make a notable effect, and it may have contributed to the decline of Kreacher's sanity in the interim. The Diadem, ring, and cup were destroyed immediately after being found, and Nagini is only ever around Death Eaters.
There's no reason to believe every single Horcrux wasn't exactly as potentially dangerous and powerful as the diary, given the right circumstances (Or moreso, given they would have contained the memories of older, more powerful versions of Tom)
@@Digitize27 watch the film theory on it
Wow this actually makes sense. Im surprised why I never thought of this, considering how big of a HP fan I am!
@@yash1756 I spend way too much time thinking about Harry Potter. Lol. But I really want them to do a video on this. Hopefully it eventually gets their attention. Lol.
I don't know that I buy your suggestion that the Dursleys WERENT impacted by the Harry horcrux. Look at the sheer depths of the evil they commit. The story goes out of its way to tell us that both evil and good are genetic traits, so it stands to reason Petunia was corrupted by something to become the way she is.
If Ron was Dumbledore, then he must have really been getting dementia there at the end, because he dropped the ball tons of times throughout the series😂
😂 Funny thing is dumbledore(ron) survived from death curse and hand cursed by ring and then return back as ron in half blood prince.
In terms of that last theory, it was Voldemort's own spell that killed him, yes it was redirected by Harry, but the killing part was all him. So theoretically Harry could die by one of their hands still, it would just be his own. This does make me wonder what would happen if Voldemort surrendered or tried to retreat during the Battle of Hogwarts, because nobody could kill him except Harry or maybe Neville still, and I'm not sure if Harry would do that.
I would argue that Harry still killed Voldemort. He cast a spell while knowing what would happen as a result. He had lerhal intent.
@@Cailus3542 I'd equate it to the scene in the first Tobey Maguire Spider Man movie where he jumps to avoid the glider at the end of the movie. If you think Spider Man killed the Green Goblin by avoiding the glider then fair enough, I would say it was death by their own hands as the lethal component came from the villains themselves, I can understand both sides though, it's an interesting thought experiment nonetheless.
@@mellow3995 Spiderman 100% killed Norman in the movie. He could've stopped the glider easily and chose instead to avoid it and let it kill Norman.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 he didn’t chose to avoid it he did it out of reflex you know cause spidey senses.
@J Gamez he did, though. Spidey-Sense just makes him aware of danger, he still has to decide how he reacts to it. Flat out, he killed Osborn.
My favorite theory is that the wizard (with all the access to magic implied, such as the ability to have flying vehicles and/or travel via fireplaces) who is really rich (with the ability to get elves, and lots of things that he could just give away) and old (so not visibly aging anymore, and possibly combined with rich able to get around various laws against dangerous magic), named Nicholas… is the same as some other character in other works named Nicholas who gives lots of presents via flying vehicle and fireplace travel, with the help of elves, in an amount of time that should not be possible, and who hasnʼt visibly aged since 1823 and has probably been around a lot longer.
The only thing that doesnʼt fit is that the St. Nicholas Iʼm thinking of is thought to have been born in 270, over a thousand years before Flamel, but he might have gotten the Stone earlier than advertised and only decided to actually settle down back then.
Cool! I like this one
I believe that as master of death Harry can only die when he chooses to do so. The chapter where he's in kings cross with Dumbledore only makes sense in this context.
Kinda like Ignotus Peverell. Death didn't find him untill he was ready to move on
iF Hagrid theories are so popular, I really think you should make a video about How Powerful Hagrid would be if he finished Hogwarts and what would be the implications of in the books since Tom would have to blame someone else or just stay in the shadows. C'mon the only other half giant is the HEAD of a whole school of magic
Just because she is the only other one we know of, it doesn't mean there are only the two of them in the whole world. But I do see what you're saying.
12:19 Huh, wonder what giant magical beasts the other two headmistresses would've left to gaurd Hogwarts.
Helga has already brought incredibly strong creatures to Hogwarts^^
The House elves that work in the kitchens..
As for Rowena..
My biggest guess would be Hippogriffs or Centaurs.
@@giocommentary Oh, the Elves are Helga's magical creatures? That's cool. Is there a special connection between the students of Hufflepuff and the Elves?
Rowena - a thunderbird like raven creature?
Can you imagine a theory where a Qilin bowed to Dumbledore, instead of Newt or Jacob. Some of these theories are just crazy
And then afterward - despite being an incredible occurrence to be bowed to by a qilin - no one ever remembers the incident.
that was just insulting, thats why i dont even pay attention to what JK says anymore, its clear she doesnt care about the story anymore, she went crazy with ego and fame
I was sure it was gonna bow to Jacob. That would just disprove Grindelwald’s “theory” that muggles were inferior to wizards, it would be really funny
@@agustinfranco0 Don't judge JK too harshly. It's not easy to go through the Hollywood machine and not get corrupted with the dollar signs in your eyes. Maybe she can resist and eventually shake it off.
@@PhilBagels true, im not saying it like i would be any better, im just saying i dont care whatever she says anymore
i trust the logic and deduction of ultra fans like SCB a lot more, some things they've come up with make too much sense for it not to be true, no matter what JK says
Ron being Dumbledore is silly, but he's likely much more powerful than people think. I mean, using a broken wand somewhat successfully for his entire second year?
I absolutely love the Swagrid running joke.
Something I’ve always thought about. Harry cheated death twice. Why didn’t death came and offer his something neat.
I know both times they were unintentional so he technically didn’t outsmart death. But it would have been cool otherwise.
And more of that beautiful Deathly Hallows animation would be VERY welcome.
Technically, Harry never did unite the Hallows. While he *may* have had the wand's loyalty (I have a theory that it was not the real elder wand but a replica) he never physically had all the Hallows at the same time. He dropped the stone in the forest before ever getting possession of the wand.
He had already gotten control of Draco’s wand at that point(and thus, the loyalty of both the unicorn hair and elder wands) though, so he would have been the true master of all three Hallows. Esp as he was wearing the invisibility cloak and holding the stone on the way to meet Voldemort and the elder wand.
@@charliesedlak2960 perhaps he was the master in some metaphysical sense, but speaking clearly physically, he never had all three at the same time.
"Harry would never choose immortality." Maybe, Probably even, but it's not always a Choice. Sometimes, people are Cursed with immortality, other times they're Gifted it, without the ability to refuse. Either way, whether or not Harry Potter is Immortal;only time will tell.
No, only death can tell.
I have read about someone who claims by all means that Bellatrix was a Hufflepuff because she had to be very hard working to be so good at the dark arts and was extremely loyal to Voldemort.
But she's a terrible finder, and everyone knows Hufflepuffs are particularly good finders
Counterpoint: Hufflepuff isn't where hard workers go. It's where people who have no defining characteristics of value go. They get told they're there because they're hard workers so that they don't cry more than any reasonable person would when told they're going to the house where leftovers and losers end up.
@@survivordave I mean, I guess she found a very clear purpose in life, who she is and het "true love" (ugh ugh obsession isn't love in my opinion) which aren't things that are always easy to find.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 Thank you for your reaction. I would like to strongly defend my house, but I feel that you aren't really open to the equality of all the houses and true meaning of Hufflepuff. So I won't bother. There are many of us who are very willing to defend the Hufflepuff honour online. So I will let them do their things and if you want to read up about Hufflepuff, you can at anytime (I recommend the memes). I hope you are willing to be a little openminded for the idea that there are no "people with no defining characteristics and values" as we all have them. But honestly, I am just happy I am a Hufflepuff and that there are people who allow me to be proud of it. I wish the same for fellow Hufflepuffs (and all others of course) who are reading this.
@@Smartie234 You sure you're not a Gryffindor instead? Because that's a lot of self-righteous pride you're spouting in response to a fairly obvious joke.
Cedric could NEVER be a death eater. He’s just too nice.
I’ve heard of the Godrich Gryffindor is a squid one before, but I think the squid might have been quadrics idea so the basilisk was actually designed to defend the interior of the school and a giant squid was the stop sea attack
I had a theory that Creedance was actually Arianna's obscures made into a person by Dumbledore eho was trying to resurrect her using a philosopher's stone.
The Dumbledore Horcrux theory will always have a special place in my heart as it introduced me to SCB (the first channel I ever subscribed to)! A lot has changed since then, but these videos have always been a much-appreciated source of stability! Thanks for all that you & your team do 😊
Day 13 of politely asking the brothers to do a what if if Sirius took Harry the night his parents died, therefore not going after Peter, and Harry was raised by Sirius instead of the Dursleys?
I agree
Yes ☑️
Definitely ☑️
Absolutely ☑️
Sirius: "I will take the boy and raise him."
Dumbledore: "Unfortunately, the boy must be raised by the muggles. Lily's sacrificial protection lives on in her sister's blood. As long as the place Harry calls home is where Lily's sister lives, Voldemort will not be able to touch him."
But the blood relation protection, Sirius was a godparent with no actual blood relation
Voldy immediately hunts them both down because the protection from Lilly isn't active, Voldy kills Harry and Sirius, no book series
I still maintain that JKR's tweet was **NOT** a denial. I also believe that Fawkes' having been a Horcrux explains the golden flame that Harry's wand shot at Voldemort of its own accord. There would have been a **TINY** bit of Dumbledore in that tailfeather, and Dumbledore was the only one in the books who ever shot a golden flame from his wand. The wand learns from the wizard, the wizard learns from the wand.
Based
Remorse literally destroys a horcrux, so I think it would be impossible for Dumbledore to habe one without it dissolving the minute it's created.
Rowling's tweets are also not canon to the story either. Authors are not infallible. The only thing that counts as part of the story are the things that make it into the story. None of her tweets change the canon. What's in the books, is in the books, and what's not, isn't. If what she MEANT to put in the books doesn't match what's ACTUALLY in the books, that doesn't mean what she says is correct, it means she failed to do her job as an author.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 not to mention JK is crazy and her ego wont allow anyone to say anything about HER story
What I never understood about the Horkrux theory is this: If the Horkrux had that big an influence on the Dursleys that they abused Harry, why doesn't it seem to affect anyone else? Take Ron and Hermione for instance. Ron in particular shared a dorm (and from Chamber of Secrets his room at home) with Harry for years and the three of them spent most of their time together.
We see the effect the locket has on Ron but nothing similar in the years beforehand. And yeah, maybe the locket has a stronger effect because of the closer proximity as they are wearing it, but it HAS been six years, more than enough time.
Well people at hogwarts didn't have to take care of Harry when he was 11 the same way the Dursleys (well, not Dudley) had to look after him as a baby.
And not to mention Harry was around the Weasley for literally MONTHS (in total) (& around his friends (& teachers) for months, too & they're all perfectly "lovely" to him (well, minus Snape)!! 😅😊😉
The Dumbledore is an aged Ron is disproved in the order of the phoenix when the head instructor asks Umbridge about Dumbledore. She than reveals she tested him herself and the things he could do with a wand were amazing the ministry will never catch him. The theory should have never gotten passed that point
I could have sworn that back in the early 2000s JK herself said in an interview that the snake in book one was Nagini but the after the last book came out she was all "what, no that snake's not Nagini, that's crazy"
I'm a fan of good theories so thanks for shedding ligh to this bad ones!
I would rebut that last sentiment of the final theory with this: Harry might not choose immortality but he could still receive it. This also parallels the sorceror's stone arc, because he did receive the stone without meaning to. The immortal Harry theory would make for an interesting continuation of the series or Wizarding World myth for Harry to become a reluctant immortal.
Could Faux’s tears have cured Dumbledores cursed hand?
I believe the book specifically says that it's something not even Faux can help with..... but I could be mistaken
@@captainspaulding5963 its not mentioned in the books, but should have
Severus says nothing can heal the curse forever.
The relationship between Dumbledore and Fawkes, and how and why Fawkes gave two feathers to Ollivander to makes wands out off, is explained by the fanfic I love the most: Shiny and Blue by der Mondstrahl. It’s completely canon compliant and gives loads of background to everything. :)
You guys would have a great versus series with Harry Potter characters.
11:40 Ben's past as an aquarium keeper makes an appearance.
Do you think if someone saw a person going through the veil they would be able to see thestrals? Or just seeing the veil will allow you to see thestrals?
I would imagine that you would actually have to see someone falling into the veil. Since you have to physically watch someone die to see a thestral. Otherwise I feel his mother's death would count for him to see them. Granted this is just my opinion.
i think this could be possible if you had a personal connection to the person in the veil. i believe emotional connection is important when seeing the death or every time someone saw a bug die they'd be able to see thestrals.
@@lumlee3536 this is really interesting, I hadn't thought about that, do you think then that maybe Voldemort couldn't see thestrals as he has no personal connection with anyone?
@@tackettsworldgameing7383 It makes sense!!
@@laurar1816 I think negative emotional connection would also work. in a sense, voldemort had a strong negative emotional connection to his family, i'd imagine killing myrtle warren in the bathroom of hogwarts didn't give him the ability to see thestrals, but killing his muggle father may have (also his uncle)
My theory on the whole "Immortal Harry" thing is a little different. I like to think that Harry is immortal to some extent. Specifically because of the line in the story of the Three Brothers "And he greeted Death as an old friend." In my mind that meant that the Master of Death, in thus case Harry, will gain the ability to live until they choose to die, at which point the MoD will/must greet Death as an old friend. I also like the theory that not just anyone can be the MoD, but only those from the Peverell Family.
Well Harry was immortal the whole time.. he had plot armor
I saw the thumbnail first and was like ‘No no noooo’ Then I read the title and was MASSIVELY relieved.
I worst Harry Potter theory I ever heard was that since wizards and witches usually produce magical offspring with either each other or muggles, magic is a dominant trait, and therefore most of the human race should be magical.
I read through this and was ready to start calling you silly, completely forgetting the first few words of your comment. I need to settle down
Umm, technically it is dominant because squibs are a thing. It just they are different species evolved from a same spot, random mutations would account for the mud bloods.
@@ked49 No, if they were different species, they wouldn't be able to breed, or if they could, their offspring would be unable to reproduce, like Ligars. But Muggles and Wizards are able to reproduce, and their children can have children, so Wizards are literally just Humans with Magic.
@@TheSpencermacdougall Well, the theory was due to the fact that wizards are such a tiny proportion of the human population. If you extend the scope of human history beyond the events in the books, wizards should have multiplied far beyond the scope of the muggle population by the year 1991.
This is not a bad theory, just a plothole in the HP universe. Squibs are incredibly rare, much rarer than Muggle born magical children. Also, the child of a Wizard/Witch and a Muggle is usually also magical. So if logic is applied, Wizardkind should get more and more populous and since Wizards have probably existed for as long as Muggles, I don't see how there can still be more Muggles than Wizardkind.
Dumbledore’s Horcrux was the first SCB video I watched. Totally hooked me. Almost seven years later, you’re still my absolute favorite TH-camrs!
Worst theory I've heard of was Minerva McGonagall was teaching at Hogwarts in the 1940s. That just wouldn't make sense at all.....
12:14 I really expected the theory about Salazar Slytherin being the basilisk to be at this moment
Love these videos. The origins of Avada Catavra and this five theories we don't believe in Harry Potter were both amazing ❤
There are multiple reasons why the "the Dursleys hate Harry because he's a horcrux" theory doesn't make sense.
Yeah, there's the whole thing about Petunia hating magic long before Harry was born.
But apart from that, there's also just the fact that Ron and the other Gryffindors aren't affected by living with Harry for 6 years?
The last theory is people misinterpreting the prophecy, Harry WAS immortal before he defeated Voldemort, but ever since then he’s a regular wizard.
Pretty much. The combination of the Horcrux and Lily's sacrifice bound Harry and Voldemort to each other, making them both immortal. While one lived, the other survived. After the destruction of Harry's Horcrux and Voldemort's death, both 'died', the prophecy came to full fruition, and Harry (for the first time since he was a baby) became perfectly ordinary once again.
@@Cailus3542 but he is master of death, not just ordinary man
You are litteraly misinterpreting it youself.
"“You see, the
prophecy does not mean you have to do anything! But the
prophecy caused Lord Voldemort to mark you as his equal. . . . In
other words, you are free to choose your way, quite free to turn
your back on the prophecy! But Voldemort continues to set store
by the prophecy. He will continue to hunt you . . . which makes it
certain, really, that -”
“That one of us is going to end up killing the other,” said Harry."
If Voldemort didn't care about the prophecy then it wouldn't come true. If he hadnt killed Harry's parents then it possibly wouldnt come true.
“But,” said Harry, bewildered, “but last year, you said one of us
would have to kill the other -”
“Harry, Harry, only because Voldemort made a grave error, and
acted on Professor Trelawney’s words! If Voldemort had never mur-
dered your father, would he have imparted in you a furious desire
for revenge? Of course not!"
“If Voldemort had never heard of the prophecy, would it have
been fulfilled? Would it have meant anything? Of course not! Do
you think every prophecy in the Hall of Prophecy has been ful-
filled?”
I agree full credit to the Carlin brothers for fantastic beasts. Ok I know the Ron / Dumbledore theory has holes like a box of donuts but still, I love it lol.
I think it would be cool if you guys did a “who am I?” Style J vs Ben quiz
8:25
Correction: (I know that I shouldn’t be saying this but correct me if I’m wrong) I think that Time-Turners can travel more than 5 hours, but it’s very risky as you age however much you time traveled back (for example, if you go 1 year back, you’d age 1 year)
I can not explain how badly i hate the ron is dumbledore theory
I'm pretty sure I went through the five stages of grief when Ben first said it.
7:50 Like the peach in Milo Murphy's Law?
If i can remember correctly: There are two sets of two time travelers, one set is 15 minutes behind the other.
Team one come up to some unseen yet danger and a peach is thrown at them to warn them, Cavendish is confused about it, but Dakota picks it up to possibly eat later.
They continue and 15 minutes later they see their past selves (team two) coming towards the same unseen danger.
Wanting to warn them, Cavendish looks for something to signal to them and Dakota gives him the peach which he uses.
'Wait? Where did you get that peach from?'
'Someone threw it at you and i picked it up'
'But that someone was me.'
'I know, i just gave it to you'
'But where did you get it from?'
'Someone threw it at you and I picked it up'
'but that someone was me.'
'I know i just gave it to you.'
On one hand, I agree that the Dursleys are already intolerant to wizards, but, on the other hand, it would be a pretty big plot hole for the horcrux to affect Ron but not the Dursleys (especially given how long they lived with it). So, while it was always going to happen that they were going to try their best to stomp any magical "nonsense" out of him, I don't know that they would have always treated him quite as badly as they did. I mean, if they hated him that much from the get go, why take him in at all? If they were, for instance, scared to refuse him because a powerful wizard demanded they care for him, why would they suddenly no longer fear the powerful wizard when it came to quality of care?
I think it wouldn't be a plot hole if the Dursleys weren't affected by the Horcrux. Harry was living being, not an object imbued with a soul piece and dark magic. It's entirely possible that him being alive with a will of his own changes that particular aspect of Horcruxes.
Plus, Ron and Hermione spend a lot of time around Harry, but they don't act more negative and abuse him.
I've always liked this theory and to call it one of the worst or to say it's been disproved doesn't feel fair. One thing I would say is that different Horcruxes seem to have different effects on those around them (the diary, for example, is very different from the locket).
Because the books were written for children, some of what happens (particularly in The Philosopher's Stone) feels disconnected from the rest of the series. The Dursleys keeping Harry in a cupboard under the stairs feels(for most of us) like cartoon levels of villainous parental behaviour and so we look for ways to explain it. The books are told from Harry's perspective, we are meant to empathise with and like Harry, yet many people outside of Gryffindor don't and so we look to understand that too. This theory could explain some of the unrealistic narrative.
@@benwillis5840 Or maybe Joan just thinks that people with differences should just stay in the closet.
@Super Raegun except, the ENTIRE series is about someone coming out of the shadows....... nice try though
@@captainspaulding5963 More ironic than Darth Plaguius not being able to save himself from dying.
{Dumbledore's horcrux theory}
Without delving tooooo deep, it does seem fairly plausible. And a good idea for almost perfect immortality.
However (upon further thinking), I don't think albus would subject fawkes to that kind of dark magic, especially since he has to bear it for eternity
Oooo love your channel so much
The other issue with the theory of the Dursleys being cruel because of the Horcrux in Harry, particularly the part about Ron being most impacted because he's used to comfort...is Hermione. She's also there, she's also around it, and she's also used to comfort. Arguably more than Ron, considering that while, yes, she did have to go through the culture shock of evening the wizarding world at 11, she's never shown to have financial hardship and seems to have perfectly lovely parents and general stability in her life. By that logic she should also be grossly changed by the locket.
The last one... Harry was being rooted to life by the piece of Riddle's soul that was inside of him. Tom Riddle himself killed that part of his own soul and stopped Harry from being immortal.
Now we need a "Most/Least impactful if true" video and a "Theories that disprove the most other theories list". I would also love a ranking/reaction/playthrough video series of all the Harry Potter video games.
Another great theory video and happy Friday everyone have a great weekend
The actual worst theories: anything along the lines of “none of the story ever happened and was just a fever dream of this character or that character, who’s actually just mentally disturbed.”
Y’all’s videos make my day thank you for always brightening my mood ❤❤
While I haven't watched as many of your videos, I do love them, and love watching them when falling asleep or just watching videos mid day. Thanks for another great video!
What about the theory that there was a big war between muggles and wizards which cause the wizard population to be so small? This one is souly based on the big size of the Weasley family and ignoring that all other families in the HP universes have a max of 2 - 3 children.
I subscribe to the evolution theory of magic, wizards are a different species from humans.
@@ked49 Except that Muggles regularly have magical children (Muggle-borns) and wizards regularly have Muggle children (Squibs).
And people regularly crossbreed different dogs. Your point?
EDIT: Sorry, misunderstood your comment. 😅
There would be no "war" between them.... no matter how strong Muggle weapons may have been, Wizards have MANY spells and wards that not even magic can get through.
Day 3 of politely posing the proposition to the brothers of doing a “What if Merope Gaunt had survived Childbirth?” video. The author has stated that had Merope lived, and raised Tom instead of the orphanage, things would have turned out very differently. I’m curious if you folks think that Tom was actually born evil; preventing a mother’s love from changing his fate, or if a parental figure may have helped him become an even greater wizard than the likes of Dumbledore. Thanks as always for your hard work and creativity with he videos!
Let’s go. Lots of good content recently
FR! They’ve been killing it a bit extra
Harry:
'Professor Dumbledore, may I borrow your phoenix this weekend?" Dumbledore: "I'm sorry, Harry. I have no Fawkes to give."
Heya Ben, I have not been around "forever" Yet, I have a question? Are you saying "Towel Section below"? and can you explain Please? I do not have other theories but I do enjoy watching your Harry Potter content, I am re-reading and up to book 6 this time around . . . Thanks to everyone at SCB!
The “Towel Section” joke is an OLD SCB joke from back in Season 1 or 2. It comes from J’s video about all the uses of a towel.
Basically their version of saying "the peanut gallery"
The Flich poltergeist theory is my favorite for sure and is personal head canon.
I think Dumbledore knew that Ron was loyal and sees the opposite of himself in him.. I think Dumbledore had regrets and didn’t want Ron to have those same regrets and gave him the deluminator so he can return to his friends (family); the thing Dumbledore never could do after Ariana’s death
“Where we can pick up our loyalty check for those?”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think the "Harry Horcrux Effects Dursley" theory could be more that it exaggerates their nastiness...
For the last theory, I personally feel that Harry is the master of death and is immortal only when it comes to non-natural forms of death. However, if he was to fall from a broomstick or get dragonpox he is as mortal as any other wizard. Similarly, how the DA and the Order became immortal (resisting harmful spells) after Harry sacrificed himself for them. Yet, they can still die from natural causes.
Master of death accepts death and accepts that he must die. There is no proof that master of death makes you immortal
Have you ever thought about what happens to people when they enter the pensieve? What if you go into a memory of going into a pensieve? How many pensieve's deep can you go?
Cursed child is the WORST
Yup
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Love your videos!
I kind of like the "the drsleys are mean bc harrys a horcrux' theory but its also disproven by the 7 books themselves. Why would the dursleys be corrupted by that stuff but hermione and ron arent? They spent a lot more time and were a lot closer to him than the durselys were.
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Worst theory: Harry is actually a flying pig, and fell asleep on a cloud, and the whole seiries is a dream.all the spells whooshing are airplanes flying past, all the explosions are bats with bombs taped to them, and all the talking is radios that raindrops are listening to.