Spraying Oil Based Vs Water Based Paint. HVLP Vs Airless Spraying
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- Spraying oil based Vs water based paint.. Teknos Futura 90 Vs Teknos Futura Aqua 90. Wanting that high gloss finish, water based Vs oil based, which is best?
HVLP Vs airless spraying. Using an air spray HVLP setup and an airless paint sprayer, both capable of fine finish spraying. Teknos Futura 90 and Teknos Futura Aqua 90 are thixotropic, suitable to paint with a brush, can be sprayed, but which spray technology will produce the best high gloss finish?
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This is not a paid for promotion by Teknos, the paints used were purchased from Holman Specialist Paints, purely to showcase the technology and how good water-based high gloss paint can perform against its oil-based equivalent. As always, your feedback and input is very welcome.. what high gloss technology and paints are you liking?.. is it just simply “you cannot beat oil-based”? ..regards Pete
I don't know if many noticed but there seems to be a distinct point made about using a face mask. It is never assumed and keeps popping up again and again as a gentle but clear reminder that we only live once and there is no point shortening your time by ignoring safety protocols. LOVE IT!
You’re absolutely right 💯 ..great to hear from you, hope you’re keeping well my friend 🙏
Wow that door looks exceptional Pete the Futura Aqua looks out of this world 🌎
Thank you brother 🙏 ..when we get together we’ll spray some.. bring your sunglasses 😎😂
@@PaintHQ absolutely buddy can’t wait 💯👍🏻
Good job he is spraying the panel flat, because if it were vertical it would be running off in waves, I speak as a spray training instructor
Thanks for your input my friend.. It’s an Alkyd 90% sheen, so maybe it looks wetter than it actually is, the tip was .010 so for a relatively high viscosity paint that’s thixotropic, the fluid flow really wasn’t that high .. the door was stood vertical to cure and I can assure you no paint ran 😆 ..all the best buddy, great to have your contribution on the channel 🙏 regards Pete 💙
Great review, I love the teknos paint, currently halfway through a complete school redec, using the teknos pro10 emulsion on the walls and futura aqua primer and futura aqua 90 on the wood work, been brushing and rolling but think I will get the airless and compressor out
Hey Adrian, appreciate your feedback.. exciting project my friend ..yeah go for a sprayed finish, the level of finish to be achieved is very satisfying.. airless will certainly lay on a lovely coat, effortlessly and with the added speed 👌 ..let me know how it goes my friend 🙏 regards Pete
Appreciate your time and knowledge my friend was all that spraying done with just the one tin of paint (the water based)one because it seems it went a long way
You’re very welcome Paul.. great question, I did have a ‘backup’ 1 litre can because I did have some natural wastage priming the GX21FF and returning the leftover material back to the can.. testing aside, I have to say one 1 litre can was enough to get setup and airless spray 2 top coats on a single external door 👍 ..take care my friend.. regards Pete
Hi mate , with every oil based I’ve sprayed I’ve had to thin it down….
It’s pretty cool that water based paints just as glossy as solvent based paints
Thank you my friend, really appreciate your input.. yeah I was really impressed with the WB performance and level of sheen.. nothing in it Vs the oil, really nice 90% shine ☀️😎 ..great to hear from you 🙏
@@PaintHQ I haven’t had much experience with water based gloss enamels, but I tried spraying one product I got a lot of tiny pinholes and the gloss level did die back a little bit
Your channel is excellent, I'm learning a lot about airless and masking with you, congratulations friend, a big hug from Brazil!
You’re so kind, thank you very much.. really is so cool to hear from you in Brazil 🇧🇷🙏
..Keep in touch my friend, I’m happy to help and advise if I can 💚💛💙 ..regards Pete
You are the best!!👌
Haha thank you Ivan, I just enjoy paint spraying technology 😆 ..I’m happy to help and advise you too my friend, if I can be of any assistance 🙏 regards Pete
If you can have only one painting system what would you pick? Brand?gun? Thanks. Great videos.
Hi Michael.. not sure if this answers your question - but purely based on this video and what I was hoping to showcase, whilst oil based is still valid, ‘..but in recent years, look how far waterborne trim / woodwork paint has come’.. I’d pick waterborne paint, spraying Graco airless 💙💯
Thanks for your feedback and very kind support.. regards Pete
Very Impressive as always Pete. Interesting results!
Thank you Steve, you’re a diamond 💯 yeah I was very impressed, especially with how the water-based performed and no difference in the 90% sheen 😆 ..hope you’re keeping well my friend 🙏 regards Pete
you should open an academy brother such a legend
a questiom on doing your doors top coat do you do 2 passes do you do go down and then another coat straight away across
Thank you so much Michael, that means a lot 🙏 ..Good question, 9 times out of 10 I’ll spray doors vertically (not flat like in this video), and I’ll only spray in a vertical movement too.. first top coat is at a regular steady speed, then second coat I’ll slow the movement down as much as I know I’m able to do without risking a run.. what I call a ‘healthy coat‘.. by that, you know the product, know how it performs and how far you can push it to lay on the optimal coat.. then when it dries and pulls in, you get the most beautiful finish 👌 also I allow each coat to be ‘reasonably’ dry before the next coat, the first ‘thinner’ coat will dry pretty quick 👍 ..anytime you need help or advise, I’m there for you buddy 🙏
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Informative, inspiring & nicely presented: you keep adding to my enthusiasm. Heaven sent 4 REAL!
Hey Beija, you’re a absolute diamond, thank you so much 🙏 ..hope you’re keeping well
Great video pete,what a finish you got with that door in the water based gloss finish!it has some sheen,is it easier to get that build up once door is lying flat?could you get the same high solid build up if its hanging?i have tried spraying oil based paints but find it difficult compared to water based,it tends to need more thinning,water based is the way to go i reckon,I used my new graco gxff cordless down the garden yesterday spraying masonry fence posts with dulux weathershield!what a joy to use,your videos are inspiring and gives us all confidence and help using sprayers
Hi Edmond, you’re so kind thank you very much.. yeah that was my reasoning to spray the top coats flat, and spraying the primer hanging to minimise the time that the door was off.. trade off / risk is something could land on the flat door, but I was very lucky 😓..I was half expecting a swarm of flies to be attracted to the yellow 🙈 ..I’ll have to do a vertical hanging test, it’ll be interesting how far you can push it 🤔 ..I’m so pleased to hear about your success and that you’re liking the GXFF Cordless 🙏 ..mine (reluctantly) had to be handed back to Graco after filming ☹️ ..it really is an innovative cordless design, and so nice to setup and use 💯 ..all the very best my friend.. regards Pete
Great video once again, every time I see your videos I am inspired to give mine a serious go. I think the question was answered slightly about when you applied the second coat of water base top coat on the door? was this just by experience or timed and did you do any sort of de nibbing [maybe not the correct term] between coats or straight on again. cheers
Hey Shane, thank you so much, I’m pleased that you’re inspired.. go for it my friend, you won’t look back.. take some small steps to begin with, spray a small project or if you’re a P&D, perhaps start with ceilings and manually do the rest.. basically build your confidence, I don’t want you to any bad experience that could put you off.. ceilings are straight forward in that you protect floors and furniture anyway if your using a brush and roller.. get it right and I’m sure you will and you’ll find like me that spraying ceilings is cleaner than a brush / roller, better finish and much less taxing on the body 👍 ..In answer to your question, I denib the primer and only the first topcoat if I notice any contamination, otherwise the 2nd topcoat goes straight on after the first coat is dry.. you can push the boundaries with drying when spraying, if you know how your product will perform.. hope this helps buddy, keep in touch 🙏 regards Pete
I have left 3 doors to finish job , and little of paint is left.
Problem is , Should I buy o ly 3/16- 7,5 m for 100$ line , or tc pro can get for 250$ used like new.
but I reded many bad about tc pro , some ultra or max some model different tips.
pump very short working life , sometime to short.
better 3/16 and job done .
this tc pro it's invest in gun , after pump , again pump, pump.
I do prefer a smaller setup, 7.5m 3/16” line (and a hopper), especially for fine finish spraying of small quantities of material.. Often I feature the handheld units on this channel, I do rate them for small projects / touch ups and to compliment the bigger spray pumps 👍 ..regards Pete
@@PaintHQ thanks 😊
You’re very welcome, anytime my friend 🙏
What pressure would you set at if the orfice size was 14 for the waterbased as opposed to 10?
What airless gun mesh filter size did you use for the aqua?
Blue / 100 mesh buddy 👍👍
Hi, i forgot to ask, did you have to thin either paint much before spraying
Hi Adrian.. no problem my friend.. there was no thinning with either paint, that’s what impressed me with the Futura Aqua, the way it went through HVLP.. it was a warm day so I know that would have helped, I’m a fan of warming paint for HVLP.. I think also the pressure cup helps and it being an air spray (conventional) HVLP setup.. the oil-based Futura could definitely need a bit of easing though to get it through HVLP 👍
How long between first coat and second top coat on the door in aqua 90?
hi pete you ok ... i have one question for im in the middle of doing a clients kitchen/dinning room the clients wants wood work trim and doors glossed ... from your experience what is the best water based gloss you have tryed?
Hey Gareth, the Teknos Futura Aqua 90 product showcased in this video is the best performing, high shine (90% sheen) product that I’ve used 👌👍
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Regards Pete
@@PaintHQ cheers thank you so much thank you 🙏
How do you set the 800 psi. I have the gx21. Should I set it so it shows 800 psi when trigger fully depressed or 800 psi at standby? I tried 800ish and I got lots of pinholes in my finish? Am I moving too fast? Tried really slow and got runs, was I too close or too slow ahh
Any help on this one bud?
It’s the static pressure you go by.. in standby 👍 ..you need to be approx 10-12” from the substrate, and speed is relatively quick ..although speed can be dependent on tip orifice size, for example smaller .006 / .008, you gain much more control ..what product are you spraying ?
@@PaintHQ water based product in this video, from either a 310 or a 314 tip
Ah great.. it should spray fine with a 310 ..I suspect the pressure at 800 psi is a little low for a thixotropic paint.. I can’t recall, I think I was around 1200 psi
@@PaintHQ what do you mean by thixotropic in this situation?
Please tell me how you got the psi so low? 210 tips 800psi
There was no thinning, maybe paint was a little warmer (it was the summer months).. otherwise it’s a paint that can equally be sprayed, along with brush / roller - Teknos make very good products that are either spray specific or equally can be sprayed 👌 Along with Graco FFLP tips - they spray a fine finish st much lower pressure 💙 ..all the best my friend, hope you’re keeping well.. regards Pete