Want to Improve at Blood Bowl? Blood Bowl Tactics: AndyDavo Gives Coaching, Hints and Tips
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I have recorded a game in which I talk about some of the basic strategies of Blood Bowl and then I demonstrate how to pull them off. 100% Blood Bowl Tactics, Strategy and Game Play tips. If you enjoy this bespoke content please let me know. in the comments section below
You may also be interested in the guide videos I have done
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Orc: • Warhammer Blood Bowl 2...
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If you have any thoughts or questions, please leave a comment below and i will get back to you!
Love your videos, i have a game coming up, i'm playing wood elves against Necro, both are quite basic. Not sure how to play as the necros have the speed undead lack...
@@MalignantHalibut - Nothing majorly special actually, but i'd:
Target the wights/ wolves where possible (a removal on one of these is worth loads more than a random zombie.
Leave no hits, fight 1st, but if u cant fight, run away.
Column defence, then when your ready, attack (if its right to do so).
Also - i have some woodies vs necro games on here, check out the OCC run for example.
Finally, best of luck!!
Hi I could really use some help with tutorials for blood bowl any suggestions
I am here to leave a comment, because Andy told us too. I am doing this of my own will and have not been coerced. Tell my family I love them.
hahahahaha!
This still makes me laugh!
@@AndyDavoBloodBowlAre you still laughing?
I am commenting because Andy makes me do things i don't want to do. He tells me it's our little secret. In all seriousness, glad you have made another tutorial video.
YOU are being included in the next one.... Then it won't be a secret....
thanks for the detailed content in this game! coming from darkest dungeon, MTG, chess, and stuff like that this is the level of info ive been looking for
Great guide.
Now I properly understand why I found it so hard to get anything more than a draw vs Wood Elves in the latest World Cup.
I was playing with a Necromantic team, which is not my comfort zone.
Were u playing too passively? Then they explode and score t8?
What. A. Master. Class!!
wow! thank you!
great food for thought in this video, thanks for posting !
great guide as always. I really enjoy to watch you play
Thank you for saying so. YT does love some good engagements!
Hi Andy. Amazing video, helps a lot for rookie player like me. Hope one day to see some contents about Undead team. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the handy insight on turn management.
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching it
thanks for this video, very intersting advice for drive managing and understand the importance of knowing when to score 🙂
Great video. Helpful supplement to the coaching.
CMEast
great video, these game breakdown videos are excellent!
hey man! hope youre wel?. thank you too
I bought the game on the winter sale a month ago and recently found your channel. I have a lot of questions:
- Starting formations: What I am even trying to do here? I just put my dudes in a way that looks nice and symmetric but I have no idea of what I'm doing.
- When to follow and when to stay after a pow or push? Does it differ with different teams?
- You calculate or approximate odds very quickly. Could you make a video explaining how to do that?
- What types of cages are there. You mentioned an anti-leap cage. Are there more?
- In other videos, you mention T-shapes and box-shapes and I don't know why are those important.
I have many more questions but I think those are the most general ones.
Wow! Many many questions! Join the discord and ask there. I can PM you some stuff, but that is some very good questions for a live stream too.
Dang it man, I've been looking for a video that details most of this stuff and I just can't find anything. It's all veterans who don't give insight into the more minute details, they just give the big picture
Thanks for the video. I'm trying to get more of my friends into playing, now I've got something to send them.
That would be brilliant, thank you. Please also ask them what extra resources they would like and let me know
This is awesome, thanks, mate - really wish I had more time to play BB! See you on Twitch soon!
Very helpful, thank you.
Thank you!
Good stuff, thank you.
Appreciate that you point out flaws for both players in a pragmatic and respectful manner.
My pleasure! - I have done a bunch of these videos, check out the others, if you liked this one
Fantastic video Andy really useful
thank you!
Great video, keep them coming!
Thank You! - more due out soon!
Thanks for another great tutorial. You explain the concepts very well and it really helps grasp them with the turn by turn review!
Glad you liked it, feel free to share it! What race would you like to see next?
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl I did share it to my table top buddies (even though it's against my best interest ;)
I would love to see your take on the Undead and, once BB3 drops, the Blorcs
I would like a vid of what to do after two turns of first dice turnovers :)
Great insights! More of these videos, please!
Great, thank you! What race would you like to see next?
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl Any team would be interesting, but I think you normally show strategy with agile teams with a lot of movement. For a change of pace might be interesting to learn how to get the most of low MA or low AG teams. But I understand you get the examples for your games, and your CCL runs, etc tend to be that type of team. To be honest, I can't find a lot of content like this, certainly not with this quality, so I'm just glad you do them. Thank you.
I'm still fairly new to the game, but this video format is really outstanding. It's a very good illustration of how you wanna dash, in theory. Very instructional, thanks!
Nice review, thanks 😃
Nice people are still finding this!
I watched this yesterday before a league game (TT) that evening. I (humans) thought of this and didn’t fight too hard when my chorf opponent started the second half with the ball down 0-1, I gave him an opening to score quick and he took the bait and overextended on turn 3. Won 2-0 and would have been happy with the 2-1 I expected instead. Patience is hard sometimes but it pays off and so does having a plan.
delighted this video is still helping people! :)
Great video as usual
Thank you sir!
I've been having issues with elf offense and specifically how I should go about controlling the game and keeping tempo. I think the fight or flight segment and the spreading out were the pieces I was missing. I wasn't quite able to piece it together by watching you play since you make the offense(and defense really) seem so effortless. Great video even for more advanced coaches.
Delighted you find it useful. Honestly, if you have questions PLEASE leave comments on vids or ping me in discord. happy to help
Great video! Thank you, Andy. Would love another videos on how to stall your attack with "bash" teams, creating the same 8t easy score situation when you don't get removals :)
Bash it will be then, thank you!
Good advice!
Thank you!
Super helpful for "not-quite- beginners", I've shared with some friends who will find it useful :)
cheers G
2:30 - I would say my answer would change IF I'm playing a team with MA8+ players. There have been times with Lizardmen when I've aimed to stall but the opposition has accidentally kicked the ball into the hands of a Skink and left a nice gap for him to just charge up the field. So I've found my answer has generally been "play for stall, but take gifted opportunities".
Likewise Skavens, though most players nowadays know how to protect against 1TTDs.
Saying that: I am a relatively new player, so I'm fully prepared to be wrong in my logic. 😅
Nice video Andy, I liked the highlighting of squares it was a nice new wrinkle to add to these. I agree with others that the music was a little too loud and would prefer it to be slightly lower. Keep it up.
Thank you for the feedback!
Looks good
You have a new suscriber, great video, thank you
Welcome to the channel! Thank you. If you like this sorta stuff, then consider the "guides" playlist.
Good stuff
Thank you for commenting
Amazing video mate, I'd love to see any guide based on a bashy team. Although the skill cap of those team is lower than ag teams, it'd be nice to see a guide on maybe positioning or how to play from behind with a bashy team. Anyway, great video, keep up the good stuf.
I wouldn't agree that the Skill cap is lower on bash teams. They can not recover from a bad position, just like Andy showed in the second half.
Don't underestimate the level of tactics involved in bash.
@@JorisVDC Yeah, there's a great difference between dumb bashing and smart bashing.
Really digging the video so far, though the background music seems quite loud over your voice.
I'll pass on the feedback. What did you think to the intro?
The intro was awesome, as was the production value across the rest of the video. I also really loved the guide as well, very insightful and informative (Though as a Woodies player I may be somewhat biased).
Yeah I had to EQ the bass down but its way too loud. I prefer no music at all myself.
Hi Andy, thanks for your tips, it's helped light a fire to get me back in to Blood Bowl (after a 6 year hiatus) just before the release of Blood Bowl 3. I notice a tactic many players use, no matter what their team, is, when receiving, to try to score on the last or 2nd last turn of the half. This obviously to limit the opportunity of the opposition to score before the half ends, but what are the best ways to fend off the bashy teams to do this? Sometimes it seems the bashy teams will smash through if the passing / running team delays too long & it might be better to score sooner & then fight like hell to keep the opponent out for the rest of the half
your question is rather neuanced, but i think you just need to make a choice, how much more risk is there in delaying Vs how likely can they score with the remaining time - which ever is better for you is what you should pick.
Another excellent video Andy. I wonder if you'd have a video of defending when your opponent is playing like your wood elves are in the second half?
Ie. holding the ball back and waiting to stall until the final turn and suggestions of how to mitigate this. I guess it's throw people forward to attack the ball carrier but playing vs elves they just seem to evaporate and run away! (I also happen to have game for my next coaching session - when I finally book it - where I was scratching my head as Norse vs this type of defence by High Elves)
I'm playing as Chorf next season, so i'm sure we'll have one
Nice!
I watched you play this evening, Skaven Vs a Dwarf coach - who conceded to you on T12ish
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl Yeah he really didn't get the rub of the green on the dice, can understand the frustration to be fair. Thanks for the video, always pick up something from your content which is either a great reflection on your knowledge or a very poor one on my lack of it as I've been watching your streams for well over 2 and a half years now.
Actually quite good! 😁
Actually...
@Zunk Actually quite good for an Andy video.
I played one game against you with dwarfs about six months ago. I was saved by a fairly savage dicing and nearly pitch cleared the elves, but one thing I did learn about an offensive drive against elves was this:
Your first turn or two is all about making sure the elves don't steal your ball, leave some players back in case a deep kick can be contested. Elves are not going to deploy everything on line and fight it out, so it's not a job for 9-10 players. SECURE THAT BALL, you have all half to get it down field. If all else fails a line cage is a reasonable stopgap measure, especially if one or both blockers have guard. It will limit a hit on the ball to 1D at best most of the time.
Good thoughts!
My request for a next vid would be how to successfully advance a cage against an opponent who keeps basing it. I struggle with bashier teams to screen the front of the cage and often find I get bogged down midfield as a result.
That was a lot of what was going on this evening. Man its hard work.
Andy beeen watching your latest High Elves games last week - Congratz on securing the win against that Dwarf team.. If you havent already please can you do a video like this on your thought process when playing the opposite to this game and your High Elves V Dwarfs game - Basically Slow movement teams V high movement strong passing teams. If you have done one already over the years would you mind replying with a link for me to watch. I would really appreciate it as I have started learning bloodbowl 2 with a dwarf team and im struggling so much with there lack of Movement, (Oh and I fired the +8 str 210k Death Roller_ Just was'nt worth it even if i got lucky enough to get a bribe pre game it still just wasnt doing enough damage to justify my TV being so high just because of 1 player. Also the fact it had 9/16 spp after getting that double 6 making it +8str, 5 games later even with 9 injuries it produced which seems poor to me it still didnt gain any further SPP to give me a 2nd skill that perhaps may have made it more of killing machine and justified its value more, or maybe im just unlucky and/or because i continued to lose games with it in my team. Im trying Undead and a Necro Team as my 2 next build try outs. All the best for your channel going into the new year. Hope it continues to grow as since I started playing BB2 again and look forward to BB3 in 2022 I have found your gameplay content and tutorials really enjoyable and informative. My team name is BugmansBigBeards - Ravenhawk (coach name) just in case I ever get lucky enough to play against you..
Great video Andy, really useful stuff. Just one thing you might want to fix. You mention a link to Greebo Games in the comments below. I might be blind but I can't see it.
Hi, thank you , i have fixed it now.
Answer to the first question: with fast agi teams (Skaven/wood elves, high Kislev), against teams that can't reliably pick the ball up (khemri, stunties, most teams without a thrower/catcher devoted player) I would rather score on turn 1 than turn 8, because there is a not inconsiderable chance of me scoring again and ending the half further ahead than 1-0, especially if (as in most of these cases) I am likely to be out bashed and be unable to resist fast scoring from the opponent in the second half
*repeated fast scoring, I should clarify
When starting a league, when should you just drop a team with a rough start? For example I have a chaos warrior team where a chaos warrior died in the first game. Doing ranked league, do I just drop the team? I had one warrior skill up.
Great video, can we have some of these narrated by the interesting half of the double act though?? : )
you know what's fun - trying to guess who the Twitch viewers are by their YT handles..... Sadly, no clues given here so I'm not sure!
I'm originally from near to where Zunk lives, but now live in the home counties.
Let's see if you have been listening/reading whilst playing 😂
Next guide about how to score early? :P
Watch the stream - maybe i need my own advice
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl Just watched your Human game on twitch.. Str 6 and block Ogre? I don't think there is any advice I can give you :p
What’s the answer? I generally do the 2-1 grind unless I have a slow team like Khemri or dwarves that can’t OTTD and have difficulty even doing 2 or three turn tds. My strategy then is to hopefully get enough numbers advantage to prevent him scoring in the second half.
I tend to win 2 0 alot with dwarves, i'll always receive first half if i can.
The normally start to move forward about turn 5 but this goes to pot if i lose the runners early, i tend to lose the game!
Correct strategy if your opponent is competent or you haven't deleted enough of the team to make a turnover a reasonably good proposition. Especially with slow bashy teams like Dwarves. The 2-1 meta is usually to let them have first half offence and put enough pressure on them to make them score early. I played Lizards Vs High elves recently where HE scored on turn 2, I scored on T7 and T16. The HE could have danced around for 8 turns and then scored and then spent the second half just getting in the way and presenting me with few chances to block to force my way upfield to score.
First off, this is a GREAT video that I will be sharing with new coaches I run across.
Second, I have some question and since you are (tangentially) responsible for the situation, I'm asking you. I've been playing BB for a while, but I've always played in either tournaments (your team is your team - it's not getting better or worse) or long term scheduled league formats (like FABBL or OCC [I gather from watching your videos], where team development is often the more important consideration that winning *every* game). But I've decided to join CCL (Xbox) next season. This will be my first time in a ladder format where you are fighting to earn a spot in the playoffs. What's most important, winning every match or developing the team? When do you know it's time to scrap the team and move to Team B (or reboot Team A) and not try and rebuild through it (I'm planning on trying to qualify with Pro Elves)? When do you know you ought to *stop* playing the team to avoid getting smashed *after* you've qualified? Do you want a game or two up on the next best team? (Looks like you can check via GoblinSpy to see where you stand)?
Feel free to reply here or where ever you think would be best. Thanks! And keep up the great work!
Do you use Discord? That's worth a quick chat maybe back and forth?
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl I haven't... but maybe this is worth figuring it out.
Sorted... I'll move the questions over to Discord...
Good vid Andy. Question: How do you play this strategy out when the opposition pressures the ball carrier, especially with players with range and hitting ability? I was playing this kind of strategy as high elves in a recent game against underworld- (200 TV higher than me) I managed to keep 1st half 0-0 (turned him over but failed an easy catch to score in turn 8) then my possession second half tried this strategy- but got heavy pressure by skilled-up skaven blitzers, got some more bad luck on rolling under pressure to get out and ended up losing 1-0 on turn 16. I ended up kicking myself for not scoring when it was easy to do so early in the drive say turn 13-14, and getting at least a draw. I wondered if you thought the general strategy was still right and I just needed to play it out better to avoid the pressure (and roll better dice!) - some tips on how to deal with pressure would be cool. Thanks as ever for your content.
generally, screens - you're probably talking about Necro for example. Note that the "fast" players, if committed are likely to be isolated and therefore blitzable, or if they are not isolated, then they are probably able to be 'ranged' out by a ball carrier and/or a light screen.
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl Thanks Andy. Effective screening seems to be a bit of a dark art. Too often I find I have left a weak link which good players always find a way to exploit.
@@Jimmwujawahwah Do you have a plan at the start of your turn and with maybe 4-5 players left to move, do you ask yourself "if I was him, what would I do?" This is a drastic over simplification of what I do, but maybe its enough (we're on a YT reply message, not writing a book)
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl that's helpful thanks. Appreciate the responses!
Come watch on twitch, its great fun :)
Hello fella. Random one, but how d'you get the highlighted players and squares on your replays?
That is some after market production values!
Nice video. Audio isn't quite right background needs turning down and you need turning up.
Any chance you could do the same sort of video but say vs chorfs or lizards who are easily able to outbash you?
When you fight your way out of being based, why do you throw blocks on a wight with 2D before throwing them on a naked zombie? A 1/9 is painful for both (potentially) rather than just you.
Great video! I'd like to see one with a tier 3 team too.
Also a video on caging.. traditional, anti leap, "venga bus" and the pros/cons of each too.
How to counter elf screening too.
I'll see what i can come up with! glad you liked the vid.
Why do the rolls on the computer game always seem unfair, is it something I’m missing ? I can try and roll against a player and I’ll always get something that goes against me- the computer on the other hand seems to roll and gets the perfect roll all the time ?
Great Vid Andy. One question though. When will you actually start taking your own advice? :-P
Very good video BUT the audiomix is a bit annoying because the music in the background drowns you speech at times :( Especially the big drums.
I know it's a year old, but thanks for the vid
you're most welcome! :)
Hi @AndyDavo's Blood Bowl, I played a game vs you and i wanted to see it again, but i infortunately deleted my team.
It was me lizards vs you Norse. Did you put it on your channel or do you still have it in your archives ? My coach name is Fulleling, Thank you.
Search the norse playlist(s), If the team made it onto YTit will be there
Great video and great content but please next time remove this background music. It’s so loud that I can’t hear what you say sometimes
Yea, the Drums were a bit loud - I dropped them
Great video but this highlights why I lost interest in BB… it’s all about caging the ball and delaying. I miss the NAF rules from the BloodBowl Companion that added downs as the way to advance the clock… not just turns. It meant you couldn’t stall but had to push for a TD every drive which incentivized actually taking risks and passing games. Games were so much more fun and less predictable using that rule set.
Hi Andy, I admit I have smiled :-) What if Undead's coach would have chosen to protect the flanks in the second drive? A 3-4-4 scheme: 3 zombie on the los, a first line of 4 players (2 mummies and another 2 zombies) two spaces away from each other and a second line of 4 players (2 ghouls and 2 wights) placed behind to prevent the wood elves leaping or blitzing...
Then the whole dive is sit back and snipe, generally
So who is number 1 bb boardgame player than?
Great content. Thx!
Sadly poor sound quality and annoying background drums.
Drink when he says "erm"
Er?
Ah yes
Hi I could really use some help with tutorials for blood bowl
In what Way?
To help people get better
@@bloodbowlaj7652 Do you mean I should do some?
No can you help me get better at showing people what to do
Maybe do a video together
Wood Elves outbashing Undead in the 2nd half. Something clearly has gone wrong with the undead tactics here.
Comments for the comment god.
thank you kindly!
I've been forced... i lost my own will.... we need... rebellion!
LOLOLO!
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl to Bannockburn!
Could do without the drum
After following this video's advice, I was immediately told by my next opponent I was ruining Blood Bowl with 8 turn stalls. If I'd only known how to do that sooner...
haha!! Perfect!
It’s the games fault for making that the best option, can’t blame a single couch for that.
I hope BB2020 makes this less of a thing, but I highly doubt it.
£20 for a 90 minute session with someone ranked #2 in the world seems extremely cheap.
It's £30 now - this video is old
Can barely hear him over his background music
Welcome new viewer! Yea, the drums on this were a touch loud. They are not in any future videos. Sorry!
Your long hair confused me. Nice tips
LOL!