✅ External Antenna Test - Waveform 4x4 MIMO - T-Mobile 5G Home Internet Arcadyan TMO-G4AR
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- Waveform 2x2 and 4x4 MIMO external antennas tested on the T-Mobile 5G Home Internet Arcadyan G4AR gateway. Internet speed tests with ping compared. What's the best order to hook up an antenna to the gateway? How much faster is it? See this and more in the video. T-Mobile just release a new gateway with a KEY feature, external antenna ports for easy install. This is the Arcadyan TMOG4AR gateway with a MediaTek T750 modem chipset. It supports numerous 5G and 4G bands including Carrier Aggregation for the potential for huge speeds. Lets compare it to the Sagemcom 5688W, KVD21 and Nokia 5G21 gateway that T-mobile offers. Note customers typically don't have a say in which gateway they recieve, all 4 are currently being sent to customers. Consider subscribing to the channel or looking below for more content!
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do I have to call them to order that new gateway?
As always thanks for all the work you put in!!!!
Always!
Wow. Man your the best. Thanks for the wiring trial and error setup. I used your setup with the new latest version of the waveform 4x4 and my download speeds shot up a steady hundred mbs and my upload stayed the same at around 17-20mbs. Super fast now. I'm averaging 430 down and 17 up. You Rock man.
Awesome!
Good video Nate always look forward to your new content amazes me how you're always able to get your hands on the latest equipment before it's available to the General Public
It's available! I'm just a regular customer.
Thank you Dr. Tater! Love the effort and lengths you go to to help our growing cell-fi community. I also enjoyed watching how energized and smiley you are in this video bcz this is your passion! 😅 💯👍💪❤️
Thanks for watching as always!
I’ve learned SO MUCH from your videos. Thank you. I used to think that all that mattered was the number of bars. I spent some time testing my box in different locations, just looking at 5G SINR mostly, and tripled my upload speed (same 4 bars).
Awesome! Glad to hear you got a massive improvement.
You don't need antennas!
@@not4weak It depends. If you’re in a single-story home you’re unlikely to be able to “see” over your neighbors roof. Or perhaps you just can’t put your T-Mobile box in a room where it has good signal, but an antenna in the attic lets you put it in whatever room it needs to be in. (And this isn’t really a reply to anything I said, so you put it here by mistake.)
@@not4weak Yup - it depends and it's exactly as Nate described. I have a single-story house that is in the worst possible position for any signal - those that I get are of very low power and quality. Having spent some time hunting signal strength around the neighbourhood I was able to locate the tower that send the signals in my area. Then, having already decided on a poynting xpol-6 I spent some time looking around the roof to get the best signal. Turns out that I have to lift the antenna 2.5m above gutter height and turn the antenna to face the tower. Conclusion: with a mr600 I went from around 15Mbps to 77Mbps download and from 4.7 to 45Mbps upload on band 1. On band 41 I get up to 108Mbps down and 7.5Mbps up. So even though I'm using a directional antenna I know if the one band fails or gets maintenance then I can at least switch to the other.
Enjoy your relatively easy access!
Many thanks for your time and expense in providing the BEST reporting of 5G devices. Your video's on T Mobile gateways have been invaluable. Anthony
Great to hear! Thanks for being a super fan!
Looking forward to see what you discover with the 2x2 alone and maybe some fine tuning on pointing as well as adjustments to the gateway in the event that some of the internal antennas are actually ALIVE even thought you have a 4x4 connected
Thanks for your work Nate. Appreciated.
My pleasure!
Wow! You did a lot of work. Much appreciated. Very interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I performed a simple test of opening the window next to where my trashcan sits and I got an extra bar and my downloads went from 177Mbps to 228Mbps and my upload went from 11Mbps to 18Mbps. It's too hot here to leave the window open. I have a very nice high place on my house to mount an antenna. As soon as production ramps up and they offer them to current users, I will be getting one. I can imagine how much cleaner of a signal I will be receiving, plus the speed boost will be nice too.
I'm ready for that chester vid! I'm gathering materials to get my antenna installed higher up right now. Currently on SA with N71 and N25 pulling about 100/15. Cross your fingers that the cable is long enough! I'm trying to reach up and get a hold on N41!
🤞
Thanks for your very helpful videos. One thing I would like to see is what improvements there would be if you were barely getting a signal with out the antenna, maybe 10 miles from the nearest tower, and then with the antenna. In my situation, I get maybe 50 mg down at its best, and completely unusable in the evening. Thanks again for helping us all out.
A lot depends on how heavily your tower or cell is being used at any time. It might also be the band you're using - so if your router allows it lock into a fixed band and see how it goes. Which antenna do you have and how did you install it? Just for interest sake.
So I wanted you to know that Waveform sent out an email about the new T Mobile gateway and included your video.
So excited for you!!
Very cool! I better go check my email
The most exciting thing about this new antenna or Gateway sorry from T-Mobile is they finally allow us to use antennas and there's much better antennas to use on the market than the ones that T-Mobile sells you directly very excited to get this new equipment and try it out with my existing antenna
Wow I wish I had that gateway, it would be so much less messy vs. the Arcadyan I have taken all apart in my server room.
Love your content and just starting this journey. A couple of questions: T-Mobile provided me the arcadyan kvd21 gateway and I purchased the 4x4 MIMO External Panel antenna based on their input. Is the TMO-G4AR better than the kvd21 with an external antenna? And have you tested the 4x4 MIMO panel with the kvd21 to see which antenna connection combo works best?
The kvd21 and g4ar have the same modem so i'd call them equal with no external antenna. G4ar is obviously easier to install them. I have tested external antenna with all the gateways, checkout my channel and the Waveform playlist for videos.
As always great video keep them coming wish we could purchase this gateway from t mobile what a pity
Maybe one day!
Hey Nater Tater I just had a question. How were you able to get your hands on the new gateway?
I haven’t been able to get the new gateway.
Btw keep the videos coming awesome job.
I was wondering the same thing.
@spasmonaut10 th-cam.com/video/r1wlZkPLMpI/w-d-xo.html
My 4x4 arrives tomorrow along with my ASUS ASUS RT-AX82U AX5400 that you recommended. My best antenna mounting option is next to my DirecTV dish though in order for my 30' of coax to reach the TV area for a place to sit. Do you think the dish will screw up my TMobile signal? Also, how much do you suspect that VPN like Nord might slow the speed down?
The dish should be ok so long as the antenna is not directly in front of it. VPN slow down varies greatly by which VPN you pay for and how close their server is to you.
Thank u Nate I love your videos
Thanks for watching!
How did you get the new one?
I have the Waveform 4x4 panel installed and i'm having intermittent disconnects with my T-Mobile Arcadyan KVD21. Before I connected the external antenna my measurements were marginal, but now they are excellent: RSRQ=2, RSRP= -75, SINR = 22, Band= n41. Connections: 1-D, 2-M2, 3-M1, 4-M. Now, I have great speed, but the intermittent drops of service. What could be the issue?
saw this new gateway, but tmobile wont let me switch to it. So hoping my store gets some in stock so I can swap out to it. Don't feel like tearing my gateway apart to put an external antenna on it. Also would be great if my local tower would just stop acting up. speeds went down from 80Mbps to like 6Mbps this week. with an upload of a steady 20Mbps. not sure whats going on but lots of people returning them lately too. So frustrating, I don't want to have to go buy a $500 5G modem just to get the service I pay for.
Could or do you do videos on At&T network? Great video just subscribed 👍👍
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T-Mobile sales says they have no control of when the G4AR will arrive either in retail or direct sales. You will just have to wait until "someone" can verify its in stock. I did look at this gateway, but it is software and firmware limited by T-Mobile. The IMEI's are whitelisted at TMo and while some have gotten around that by spoofing the IMEI on their own equipment, you are still subject to the throttle and bandwidth controls TMo uses on those IMEI's. I have been working with a Mikrotik Chateau 18ax with the CAT18 modem and TMo, but I cannot get the Mikrotik software setup to handshake with TMo correctly and it does not work at the moment. It only supports 2x2 MIMO. Mikrotik is really designed for the aggregator business, and requires lots of obtuse CLI entries. Not recommended for the home/DIY crowd. In the mean time I have the Cudy P5 CAT22 router and the default firmware worked in 5G-SA mode out of the box. After the firmware upgrade and the recommended settings from Cudy for TMo, it works great. I am *not* using the TMo Home Gateway account for the Cudy. It is using a pre-paid unlimited data SIM from TMo. Using the wafers I get B25 and B41. Waiting on the external antenna install with the 4x4 MIMO.
So im really interested to learn if this new gateway as better speeds than the older gateways using external antennas. Ive added the 4x4 antenna to the Sagecom gateway. What ti fjgure out if i would benefit by switching to the new gateway. Im very rural and on the fringe of T-mobiles coverage.
Will be similar
Try The Long Ranger if you can get one it is a parabolic antenna.
i would like to see you put some Rubber Duckie antennas on that unit and just sit the modem upside down.
Thanks for sharing, and we appreciate all your research and hard work, Sir. Kudos
My pleasure!
Hello Nate, I have an idea for you - since not everyone can afford the big 4x4 antennas at the moment, please compare the Bolton Technical Crossbow, Proxicast, Waveform and some anonymous brand from Ebay 2x2 Mimos in a shoot-out. That is of course if you haven't done so already and I just missed it. Just a thought.
It's been a while and shows how I have changed as a TH-camr over the years but here is a similar video: th-cam.com/video/vbzOMSIcrUg/w-d-xo.html
Definitely read the card as "Giveaway" and got hopeful.
Sorry!
So can you swap the internal antenna leads to accomplish the same n71 band lock as with an external antenna?
Hey Nate, are we still using the 1,3,2,4 ordering for the waveform 4x4? Just wanted to touch base again to see if you have found anything better. I'm skeerd to keep moving mine around, I'm good at breaking things lol
Yes that is the best I have found for 5G n41/n25
Hi Nate. Did you use the 1324or 1234 port combination on the cheetah?
1324
Nice video 👍
Thanks
Hello Nat, Sorry nothing against you, but i have test most of the combinations, but the best result was the stock recommendation by Waveform,which is C1- ANT1 C2 -ANT2 C3-ANT3 C4-ANT4
It depends on what signals are available. Certainly pick whichever is best for you!
Nate what do you think about starlink sat would you recommend it.
I think its expensive and has just as many if not more challenges then cellular ISP
Thankyou Oh, Soo Much. I'm Trying Too Comprehend It All, It's Too Yeah Break.
Hey Nate. Love the content. I have the G4AR with the Waveform 4x4 mimo. I have noticed that there are times when the modem switches back to the internal antenna mode and I have to manually set it back to external. Is there any way to stop this behavior?
That is odd. I think mine even stays locked on external if I disconnect the antenna. Still though I would make sure the antenna connections are snug (dont have to crank down on them). If it continues then I would look to replace it.
@@NaterTater thanks! If the modem power cycles, it should remain persistent on external antenna as well, correct?
@@andrewmorris7230 yes
The question is, I don't know if you have tested T-mobile For Business Inseego Wavmeker fx3100? I was wondering when it comes to adding the 4x4 mimo antenna I have a tall tower we installed last year would it be ok to put the antenna on the tower? Also, would it be better to purchase the antenna without the cables since I will need longer cables anyway? I'm looking for advise.
Unfortunately the fx3100 is no good for external antennas in the US. You'll want a different gateway. Waveform will custom make the cable length you need.
so my internet was good for the past like 2 years.but recently its been embarrassing.i dont know if it is the nokia trashcan but it disconnected multiple times a day. works fine and than it gets slow. am tired of relocating, rotating, plug unplug etc. by do way is there any cheaper option for a mimo anttena or anything that could help?
Can you make a video of good antennas to buy for T-mobile gateway? Some that’s not so bulky I have no where to put that bc it’s so big
This is a video for good antennas! Put it outside or in the attic out of the way.
Is it any faster than the other versions that we must take apart, with or without the 4x4? Thank you. Where can we find those 90s so the unit can stand up?
It seems similar to the others so far. The link for the 90's are in the video description and first pinned comment
I really wish they made it easy to upgrade to the new modems. I’m slightly rural and would really benefit but not sure how to go about getting one.
Was on the phone with them today and was told they are reserved for new customers only 🤷♂️
I just called them and new customers are NOT currently getting these shipped. The older models still shipping, and no way to request the G4AR instead.
@@derekmclvyep, I just got a kvd21.
@@derekmclv I was told on the phone yesterday that if you want a new route unless it's broke, that it was new customers only, and luck of the draw, so today after work I went by my local T-Mobile store, and the lady in the store did not even know what I was talking about, and also said unless your gateway is broke you can't get a new one, and it's the same lady when I signed up back in Feb, and she barely knew what I was talking about then when asking simple questions as to which Gateway they had in stock, or if I could even turn off the WiFi for my own router, so T-Mobile is clearly not training their customer service staff on this very well that's for sure. 😔
Thanks for the video. I'm somewhat confused - you say the speed went up from 265 to 291 but I see figures of 185/2.47, 249/2.65 and after 291/42.2. Just wondering whether you made a small mistake?
The 265Mbps number is using the 4x4 external with Waveform's original hook up recommendation. See 11:00 then the 291 is the speed when I did a unique antenna hook up order.
@NaterTater Thanks for clearing that up - much appreciated.
Question. Your chester has a black front but the link goes to a chester with a white front. Are they the same? Thanks.
Yes the same
How could i hook up a single 2x2 antenna?
HI Nate,
I've just found your channel and subscribed. I'm a recent T-mobile 5g customer with the Sagemon 5688W and have been getting slow response, drop outs and speed test are averaging 4- 17Mbps Down - 10 - 17 up and about 35ms ping.
Have 4 bars signal strength. Can you help?
Best Regards,
Jack
Hi Jack. With your upload the same/higher than download I am assuming you might be getting affected by congestion and the deprioitization that occurs. Have you check the speed at off hours like midnight-7am to see if there is a big difference?
Is the G4AR internal antennas as good or better than the Sagemcom? Thanks
Better. It has omni and directional antenna setups. Picks the best one.
Hey Nate, is there a way to control internal settings on the TMO- G4AR?
only a few: th-cam.com/video/Qy-f8xfPk4s/w-d-xo.html otherwise you'll need to switch to a 3rd party router: th-cam.com/play/PL8d9FovK2dNS2ihT56gySpU49V4kRHn_U.html
After extensive testing wing the black and white tmobile routers... the G4AR built-in antenna is different and mostly inferior to the black model sold by most tmobile stores. At my location with the black model (cant remember model number) my 5g signal-to-noise was always 30-40 and my 4g signal-to-noise was like -1. wierd. but the white model never breaks 10 for either 4g or 5g. Its more consistent but its consistently mediocre. Its a good thing the G4AR has external antenna mounds because you are more likely to need them.
Thanks for sharing!
good day is there a budget friendly antenna that would be under 100$ for the t mobile gateway that would work at all thank you so much for your time
Waveform's 2x2 MIMO antenna is $99 before my 5% off but i highly recommend the 4x4.
Hopefully a simple question. I just received the G4AR gateway router and i have a WAVEFORM cellular antennae similar to the one in the video. The one I have is the smaller one and only has two connectors . Will it still work , my antennae to the router? Is there anything else I ave to do? Thanks in advance.
It will likely work but you will have to experiment with what two ports work best.
@@NaterTater thanks
Does this gateway allow any more controls then previous models, meaning can you do port forwarding for voip setups with ubuiquti router 6767 Unifi Talk.
No
Thanks you, it sucks but better to know.@@NaterTater
Do you think t mobile will ever have that gateway available at stores
Yes
Have a waveform antenna for the new t mobile box is there anyway to make it switch to external antenna without being in a 5 g area
Not that I have seen. But once you get it to switch then unplug it and bring it to where you want it to be (with an external antenna) and it will stay on external.
Have You try, the new phones with ( 5G NTN).... ? ZTE or Samsung...
I have not
QUESTION, I am getting my Waveform Panel today. I have no idea how to relate the coax to the Chester Cheetah. Maybe you could shed a little light on this? I see nothing written in stone about this connection. Thanks Nate
See th-cam.com/video/3belU1bmEh0/w-d-xo.html if you label the antenna 1,2,3,4 then the back of the Cheetah would be 1,3,2,4
@@NaterTater I installed the 4X4 Waveform Panel today. No improvement though. SINR stayed about the same 16-23. I will play more by switching cables and see if it will improve any. However my antennas are only 8 ft off the ground but I will put them on the 70ft. tower after it cools off some here in Florida. 94 degrees it to how for this old man.
Please explain the difference between TMOBILE home & business internet. Is it true that you get a dedicated IP address with business? This is important for those of us that work from home. Vpn's tend to not work well with the home version. T mobile's home customer service has a hard time explaining it.
Business version gives the option for bring your own device (not IMEI locked) and option for static IP. It also has optional throttles or restrictions for things like streaming video. However i'm not sure i agree that VPN doesnt work well on the home version, perhaps the MTU isnt set low enough? I use work VPN daily without issues.
I need I have a very dumb question what is the average DBI on these gateways the internal antennas and would a 5dbi external antenna make a difference my question is is a 5dbi antenna more powerful than the internal s inside
I'm thinking about getting for external small TBI and Hannah's dad are non-directional
Can you confirm if this new gateway is for the business or personal internet?
Namely personal/home but i think you can get it for business too
I have the Inbseego FX2000-3 on the T-mobile home internet plan. is there a way to add external antennas for Band: B66, n71 to get a better signal? My cellular network data as of the time of this comment from the modem is
Network
Status: Connected
Technology: 5G
Band: B66, n71
Bandwidth: 25 MHz, 5 MHz
Network Operator: T-Mobile
Signal Strength: -96 dBm
SNR: 9 dB
No
Do you have to use all 4 ports say you have antenna one cable can you just hook it up to the number 1 port and still gain signal ?
Based on the testing I did I dont think you'll see an improvement in most situations with anything other than a 4x4.
Will that new t mobile router pair with the asus ax11000 router
Yes if you mean you can use both. The asus wont "mesh" or anything with this.
Any tips on getting one?
Your best bet is probably cancel, return the equipment then sign up again but I would wait a little while. He covered on another video how to find which one you are getting
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How did you get the new gateway? If I call T-Mobile can I request it? Thanks for the video!
I called them. You CANNOT request it and they are still shipping out the old.
I got it by calling and signing up as a new customer/line.
@@NaterTaternew customer new name or 2nd line …. There is a bit of a difference
@lattermanstudio either so long as your existing customer has only 1 tmhi line and your address is servicable. Otherwise new customer and location is needed.
I got mine and I'm an existing customer. I just keep ordering new line and returning it if it's not the new one. Took me 3 times til I got the new one shipped to me
stupid question - but can't seem to find the answer - there are CELL signal boosters for in the house - is there a such thing as an in-house MODEM/GATEWAY signal booster? if one didn't want to add an external antenna.
No not really. Either a booster or an antenna for a cellular modem.
TY@@NaterTater
I have the G4AR I have pretty good signal. I can get almost 700 down and almost 140 up. Do you think it’s worth it for me to get the waveform antenna?
no, those are great speeds!
Hello, is it better than the Chester router?
No!
Is that one the fx2000 ?
No, its the Arcadyan G4AR
What exactly is this thing, a Wi-Fi. Or something else. Is it only for inside.?
I have the Newest White T-Mobile 5G Gateway like in your Video and I'm gonna try the Waveform Antenna up in my Attic we already get 300 plus for Download and around 20 Upload along with around 20 to 30 Ping without any Antenna but sometimes the Download the Upload and Ping can be inconsistent so hopefully this will help. I tried a Chester Cheetah V2 5G Gateway but that didn't really improve the Speeds much and it was giving me a Weak 5G Signal while the Stock T-Mobile 5G Gateway gives me a Very Good 5G Signal and also gives me faster Speeds. I'll be returning the Chester Cheetah V2 5G Gateway and I'm gonna try the Waveform Antenna instead. Our Yard has a lot of Trees and some of them are big and tall with thick Branches and Leaves and we only have two Cell Towers somewhat close to us and our House is over a Hundred Years old it's got thick Walls and Aluminum Siding so that stuff could possibly be effecting the Signal and Speeds. I had to put a TV Antenna Outside because we can't get decent Reception inside the House do to the Aluminum Siding and the thick Walls so I'm thinking it's probably the same with this. First I'll try the Waveform Antenna up in the Attic but if that's not good enough I'll move it to Outside. I'd much rather have it up in the Attic rather than Outside because it would last longer from not being exposed to the Weather but if I would have to put it Outside I would but I'll test it in the Attic first. Thanks a lot for another great Video Nate!
Sounds like a good plan
Be sure to mess with the cheetah "network mode" to go to 5G NSA and maybe mess with band locking prior to giving up on it. Their support can help.
@@NaterTater Thanks I'll give that a try before returning it and I'll try hooking up the WaveForm Antenna to the Chester Cheetah and see what results I get with that kinda setup.
My Nintendo switch won't let me play online (smash bros) using TMobile gateway. Help please
What’s the best MTU size to use ???
1420
How did you get your hands on this new device? I'm reading that you have to cancel your service, get a new service and simply pray you get one in the mail. Any insight on this?
Just "report a problem with your unit" and they should swap it out
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I have exactly what you have the 4 x 4 and the new T-Mobile home Internet and I installed it exactly how you said it somehow I am not getting good service. My ping is 200 and download Speed is only 4 lol do you think there’s something wrong with the signal booster? And how can I make the CO booster or home Internet get the band 71 I am stuck on the n41 ty sir
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What would causes my 4x4 MIMO to connect to an antenna that is substantially further away? I have an antenna that is literally a few thousand feet away but these antennas still connect to an antenna further away. Im confused!
Which way is the antenna aimed?
So far….. not terribly impressive at your particular location …. Have you done placement tests with the gateway in case some of the internals are indeed interacting and affecting the results??? … and how about fine tuning your pointing if the 4x4 …. Mine turns out to be rather fussy where I’m located
Yes and yes
Hey nate can I use a HD TV antenna with 5 g t-mobile modem?
You cant use a tv antenna hooked up to a tmobile gateway. It needs to be an antenna designed for cellular modems and the bands you're interested in.
Are the waveforms okay to be place outside with weather ?
Yes absolutely
@@NaterTater okay thank you for the response
Will a T-Mobile cellular booster help your 5g home internet gateway network
No
I only got 15mbps in nj ... sick
I have two 2x2 waveform antennas, how would I hook them up?
I have this setup on the KVD21 gateway and I have tried every possible combination and they all were roughly the same speed. So I would just hook them up anyway
@@ryanwi1113 ok thanks I will try it when I get the new one.
Same as the 4x4 shown. Just put the 2x2 side by side and do the same order
@@NaterTater Thank you Mr. Tater.
@@NaterTaterI thought the waveform needed to be spaced about 3 or 4 feet either side by side or stacked? That what ended up doing with mine per Waveforms recommendation…. Then later got the 4x4 and in my case it works a lot better (here)
Is the new gateway better then the Nokia Trashcan gateway???
Yes in the fact that it has external antenna ports. Otherwise similar.
@@NaterTater Ok and does it have better internal antennas and better WiFi coverage or the same?
Does it support bridge mode?
No
How do I get the g4ar and trade in my kvd21?
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So you can't just plug the Antenna in going by the 1 2 3 and 4 on the back of the T-Mobile 5G Home Internet Gateway itself?
On the G4AR gateway I found swapping the 2 and 3 gave better performance so 1 3 2 4 instead of 1 2 3 4.
@@NaterTater Oh ok that might be why I'm not getting a Very Good Signal because it's been giving me only a Good Signal which I thought was odd and I do have it hooked up as 1 2 3 4 so I'll try switching them after I get Home from Work thanks for your help!
Can this 4x4 be used as a cellphone signal booster?
It is not a booster.
th-cam.com/video/vn0EzM4FsMM/w-d-xo.html No because its a passive antenna and doesnt send out signal for a phone to get. I feature boosters here:
Your device configuration does not have an effect on loaded and unloaded pings. Your connection through the internal network is what is doing this. Carriers prioritize internal network connections, as well as at the tower site.
Not sure what you mean by device configuration but certainly antenna or no antenna or placement and which bands does affect ping. Perhaps your point is those changes affect how you are connected to the tmobile network side?
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I own two im a truck driver any one know how get one in store
Hi, so I have been tossed around on the phone with T-Mobile from Tech Support to Customer Support and now Home internet sales and no one can seem to get me the G4AR. I have a cellular amplifier and I’m only getting 100mbps down, but it randomly drops. I can see the tower in line of sight where I’m located. I went back into the store and the manager told me he would call me back with information about getting the box, but no one has called or emailed me. Is there anything else I can do to request this box?
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With your experience with all the T-Mobile Home internet gateways would the Sagemcom or Arcadyan be best with my 15K Hiboost amplifier? I also have the TS9 adapter I use to adapt it to my Netgear M6 Pro but since I’m a full-time RV’er the area I’m in now doesn’t have a single AT&T tower near me. I greatly appreciate your input.
@Mason-Arcti the Sagemcom has tended to give me faster speeds however a booster is not the ideal way to improve performance. An external antenna will yield faster speeds typically. Especially if 5G signal is available.
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A cell booster works with an external antenna. I have a MIMO antenna outside that runs to my Hiboost amplifier then to a inside antenna next to the box. I will try without amplifier and hook it up into the box. I just don't know who else to ask and you are very smart and go into great detail in all of your videos. Would it be okay if I gave you my feedback here?
@Mason-Arcti the hiboost only has one antenna port on it correct? That would mean its not MIMO. The gateways are 4x4 MIMO so need 4 antenna cables and thats where a direct 4x4 MIMO antenna to the gateway is better than using a booster. Feel free to put comments here, i try to read all of them.
Can these antenas be outside in the rain
Yes
Thank you. You got a subscriber
I can’t get it to recognize the antenna
T-Mobile won't let me order one. How do I get the new one?
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If the telcoms were serious (confident?)about being cellular ISPs, they would use equipped installers who can pinpoint the tower locations, measure the signal strength, install an external antenna when needed, and optimize the gateway. Currently, it’s a roll of the dice whether a subscriber experiences reliable advertised speeds. Personally, I have enough hobbies that I don’t want to hack and babysit my Internet to save $30 a month. Cable ISPs are aware of cellular’s limitations and schizophrenic performance, and therefore don’t consider it competition.
I don’t get it maybe I’m just lucky. I have the silver trashcan gateway and I can get speeds up to 600 down (667 highest ever) and between 15-25 up (highest 39) with the internal antenna and 2 bars signal strength. “Normal” everyday all day downloads in the 400s and uploads over 10. In in a SoCal city an hour east of Los Angeles. I don’t know where my cell tower is so I can’t say whether I’m close to it or not, but I’m guessing I must be. I can only guess and drool about what my speeds would be if I had an external antenna on the trashcan or tge new gateway with external antenna connections. Maybe I could get 1 gig!!!
I'm lucky as well, as when I signed up in back in Feb I got a Sagemcom gateway, where I have mine pointing out a clear window that's adjacent to my open air carport along with an AC/heating register next too it so temps stay regulated, and depending on time of day/weather/traffic load, I'm pulling down 400 Mbps - around 600 Mbps with my ups between 50 Mbps to 150 Mbps with idle pings usually under 24ms and very rarely higher than 40ms with it hooked into my TP-Link Deco mesh router setup so I'm not using the Gateway for WiFi, so yeah like you if I had the new Gateway I could also see close to if not 1Gbps, but i'm not going to cancel my service to sign up again, and be put into the lottery of getting one as I'm hearing they are still pushing the Nokia Trashcans on people, so I'll wait till one pops up on eBay at a fair price, and just swap over my SIM card, or T-Mobile starts allowing existing customers to upgrade.
Where I live (in the southern AZ boonies) the Arcadyan has always performed much better than the Nokia and now that I have the Sagemcom (spelling 🙄) it is doing better than the Arcadyan…. I suppose it just depends on your location and what T-Mobile is pumping out …. Until very recently I HAD to use a 4x4 external in order to get decent speeds but after nearly 1-1/2 YEARS of “working/upgrading” the old Sprint tower just 1 mile away… my speeds are around 600 down and 60 up without an outdoor antenna (but I’m about to install pigtails in the new gateway and see what it do with my waveform 4x4 👉just for fun …. Not needed however)
You are lucky. Without the 4x4 antenna, I get 5-10mbps down and 0.2-1.5mbps up. It's terrible. And a ping so bad that it'll time out.
With the 4x4 I get 30-100mbps down and 10-20mbps up. Nate's been a lifesaver for me as even the satellite internet companies won't offer service here.
It might not be much higher, maybe try taking it outside and put it on the side with the cell tower using the app and see if it increases?
With my T-Mobile I had to give them a different address (in a different state) to be able to buy it but it still connects to 5G and gets about 17-25 down and up to 5 up inside with aluminum siding and wood roof
Your lucky. Keep your trash can!
Has anybody got it working with a metro SIM card yet??
Metro is tmobile so it works.
T mobile have the best speed but the loaded ping is terrible for me. Verizon 4g has performed better
My tmobile ping is often worse than my verizon ping.
@@NaterTaterIs the loaded pings on your cheetah in 5G SA any different?
I wish I could get Verizon's home 5G service. Towers have C band, but it's never been available. Frustrating as they're my phone provider and I've used my phone for gaming before simply to alleviate issues with T-Mobile.