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I usually just listen on Spotify but I came here to see what other people thought of the episode and from what I can see most people are thinking the same thing as I am This has to be my least favourite episode so far, Olivia was very dismissive and unkind in her answers I don’t think she was a good fit for the podcast at all
Eating the orange with the peel isn’t the weird part, it’s the fact that they were mad at her for not eating it the way they wanted. Like having an orange eating tradition every week is really cute, but why would they get legitimately upset at her for not biting into it? She still wanted to eat the orange with them and join in on the tradition. So why were they offended for something so minuscule? The fact that her boyfriend was upset afterwards instead of making fun shows it wasn’t a joke
I agree, people use orange and even lemon peels in many recipes, drinks, etc..I wouldn't be suprised if they are used in many different foods that you buy in the store. So, it's not weird to me that they eat orange peels..one quick google lookup and you can see that it is safe to eat. It's weird and uncalled for they are pressuring her to eat it and mad that she didn't.
It's their traditional to bite into it (idk for how long) but she felt uncomfortable so they should've respected that even if it is their tradition. It's understandable for them to be mad but not ok for them to push her to do it and not be respectful when she felt uncomfortable.
I’m all for hearing new perspectives and opinions but Olivia’s is not one of them. So full of entitlement, privilege, self centeredness, and overall bully vibe. There’s a clear lack of empathy and she just seems toxic. She’s not a good person to be around and you could see the negative impact she has on Morgan. I get Morgan is always trying to be nice to her guests and make them feel comfortable, but she’s indulging in that negativity. E.g. with the orange story. Usually Morgan would be the first to suggest maybe there’s a cultural difference or something. But no just straight up agreeing that it’s weird and wrong. Olivia just isn’t a good co host. No valuable opinions, is very pessimistic, and doesn’t even bother to step outside of her bubble to see stories from different lenses. She might be experienced in life but that does not equate to maturity. Her exposure to life comes from a very privileged background for sure
marlie you are very fortunate to have had opportunity for growth. Not everyone utilizes those opportunities and for some it just takes more time. My point is she’s still relatively young so there is still hope... it’s starts to taper around 30, people get set in their ways.
I never comment but seeing other comments say the same thing is a relief. it’s very obvious that this guest is being very dismissive and is quick to consider anything and everyone “weird” if she doesn’t agree with it. Some people really do need mental help, but quickly saying it because you simply don’t agree with their actions without considering other possible explanations is dismissive. No other guest has been this quick to judge. But from other episodes, I can tell Morgan is much more empathetic and is careful not to quickly judge. I understand it’s hard to disagree with a guest!
yeah. it’s sad cause the yogurt guy sounds like something along the lines of asbergers syndrome or something similar. so to judge so quick and call them weird is sad.
I get that Olivia is 22 but… I’m 22 as well and her thinking about men is a mindset I used to have at 19. A lot of work for her is needed to gain more understanding of how complicated this world is. Nothing is white or black, sometimes things are grey. Arguing with the person to the point of breaking up and then asking them to stay the next day… very not healthy. Very draining. I recommend therapy when it comes to not trusting in relationships, it helped me.
When she said the guy with the yogurt collection shouldn't be having relationships it made me feel bad for the guy because he should have the chance to find love and it's usually vain people who think otherwise
There’s someone out there for everyone. Just because they’re not for you doesn’t mean you should say they shouldn’t be with anyone. And then she made tons of comments of hating men, maybe men aren’t the problem, maybe it’s her 🤷🏻♀️
@@championanthony7643 I’m not vain, i have a kid. One I can’t have exposed to the mold and bacteria that grows on old yoghurt. It is unhealthy. When you collect something that is actively unhealthy for you, or takes up more space than you have, you should seek help. This coming from someone with multiple collections. Difference is, I’m aware of what is an unhealthy collection, and would and have taken steps to fix it. I have hoarding tendencies. I have to actively police myself when i add to a new collection. And i would never start one so disgusting as this. The yoghurt is a hoarding thing. He needs help. End of.
Not a fan of Olivia’s takes.. I feel like everything said was super surface level and her explaining that the kids should come first for wives and that they need support because “they’ll be handling all of the kid stuff” was weird
I agree that her articulation isn’t the best but with that specific comment, I don’t believe it’s inherently wrong to say that people who have children should prioritize their children… If a woman gets married and has children, the kids are gonna come first…… the same goes for dads too. Once kids are in the picture, it’s all about them. It seems like she says things without thinking carefully about the wording.
“I have lots of guy friends and I hear the way they talk about women.” You do in fact get to choose who you surround yourself with you know…. 🤔 then proceeds to say she has a couple guys on the side that she keeps around but won’t date YET bc they’re too nice…. Then continues to have the audacity to talk about how “foul” men are and how badly they treat women. Huh????
This episode was hard to get through... I usually listen to them every Thursday while I work but it's almost been a week and I'm still trying to get through it. Morgan, we love you girl but this guest was a nightmare. I'm all for getting a fresh perspective but I've gotta say, I much prefer your usual co-hosts (Justin, Alejandra and Lauren)
I really wasn’t a fan of this guest. I’m only halfway through and wondering if I can finish the episode. In the same breath as saying she doesn’t trust men (completely fair) she immediately goes into her toxic way of dating breaking up but then making up the next day and stringing them along. Then later saying the Dad should put the Wife first over the kids because as the Mom she’ll be taking care of the kids more??? Internalized misogyny much. Like what the actual F…..
@@dylanjohnson3346 backing gender roles is the opposite of being a feminist and keeping a guy strung along for song material is Toxic. I don’t want her defending me. I’ve seen more mature 16 year olds…
In the world we live in, majority of child rearing goes on the mother, some are lucky enough to have a great, mature partner that helps equally or more, but the sad truth is that more always falls on the mother/wife when a man is involved as the other half of a "partnership". At the very LEAST Women have to carry the child, give birth to the child, if able to or chosing to breastfeed or pump for the child, & a woman needs to recover from all of this mentally & physically & needs their partner to be in tune & able to provide for their needs, which fully includes taking good care of the baby when she needs to rest because she's fuckimg exhausted! Lol idk about you, but I had a god awful pregnancy & had degenerative disk disease & post partem depression by the time I gave birth.
@@phenomenalwoman6111 Still doesn’t matter. Parents should always put their kid before the other parent. Also if everyones responds to gender roles with “it’s always been that way….” It won’t ever change and they will be further reenforced like it’s no big deal by people similar minded like the guest. The more we say it’s the woman’s first priority and not the dads the more it’ll stay the same
On the story where the boyfriend had a crush on his girlfriend's best friend before they started dating: I agree with top comment. Stuff like that just happens and crushes don't mean much. He found her attractive but then he got to know OP and fell for her as a whole person. How she looks, how she acts, who she is. He's never tried it with the best friend so I really think that although he might have got close to them because of the best friend, he really genuinely fell for OP. His friends are assholes for telling her like that but I don't think the boyfriend is and neither is OP. She has a right to be hurt and it's fair to lose some trust from it but work on it and build a stronger more secure relationship from it. If he's given you no reason not to trust him before, then trust him now. Honestly, his story adds up, his friends were exaggerating because they were taking the piss out of him
I was also wondering if the best friend did it because he liked her or that there’s more to the story there (did they have a history or something). I felt like it really isn’t that big of a deal. I had a crush on one of my closest guy friends in college, we never got together, I left for law school and met my now fiancé who I adore and is my person. I met up with the friend for dinner because he was in town and literally the crush/attraction was gone. Just enjoyed his presence as friends. Like once you meet your person, no one else is an option (if you’re in a monogamous relationship of course) - at least that’s my experience
I typically love the episodes but this one was just disappointing to me. Olivia seems very immature and like she wasn’t actually interested in being there. Her takes had little to no insight and were very surface level. I will admit I have no idea who she is so maybe I’m missing something on why she was invited on the show but I’m very confused on why she was there. Most of the other guests have made sense but this one was a miss, causing Morgan to carry the whole thing
i’m like 30 mins in and i am very much annoyed. i find it funny when she says something completely out of line and morgan tries to reel it in lol. i wish this was reddit and i wish you were top comment. i def agree
This episode was hard to watch. Morgan, I love you girl and this podcast is amazing normally but you have to grow a spine with your guests. Especially when your guests are mocking people with possible mental disabilities, hating on whole genders and therefore making your audience feel like shit. I honestly wanted to cry when listening to Olivia mock the yoghurt guy, having been struggling with OCD behaviour and ADHD myself. I am sure this can't be easy on you either, remember that we only want the best for you and your podcast. Please for our and your own sake honey, no more being quiet, because saying nothing is sign that you agree with them and their hateful opinions.
Totally agree! Especially that Morgan works with sick people. She always shrinks herself with guest she’s not comfortable with then apologized in a retake episode.
Look do not hate on Morgan if you don't like the way she runs her show leave nobody is forcing you to be her look I get what your problem but blasting Morgan makes her feel you should think about that
@@sheryldube3056 It is quite sad that you think criticism is a synonym to hate. Constructive criticism is needed to be able to evolve and Morgan herself has asked us to please correct her if there is a need to. Please be more more mindful in the future before telling people to leave.
that bf that collects things sounds neurodivergent and like he hyperfixates on niche things to collect so her saying somethings wrong with his brain isnt wrong but definitely not the right way to put that. im autistic myself and i also collect "weird" things. admittedly, he should definitely stick to non-perishables, but neurodivergency is tough and throwing away a hyperfixation isnt the move. they should have talked about it long before it started to smell bad.
i want to add that i LOVED Olivia's energy through the rest of it, defending women, not trusting men. its queen shit, and she made me laugh multiple times through the episode. her take on that one story just felt a bit insensitive and hyperfixations might be a good thing to look into when/if she has the chance. they can really become a crippling thing, i know ive had a breakdown or two over a limited item i was unable to get or something that broke/got lost. love the podcast, love seeing new guests, just rubbed me wrong the way she phrased a few things in that segment.
I too, am neurodivergent (Autism, ADHD, and Tourette’s), and I completely agree, thank you for saying this. Personally I hyperfixate on collecting hello kitty items (Hello kitty is a special interest of mine), and it broke my heart to hear those negative comments as I put myself in the guys shoes, thank you
Same here, I collect a ton of stuff and continually get so many hyperfixations. I collect pokemon or Garfield stuff, build a bears, and books, but I also have hotel toilettes and hand soaps. I didn't realize til I was maybe autistic(I'm getting officially diagnosed soon but my therapist noticed I have a ton of symptoms) that I looked collecting and hyperfixing on stuff
i agree i’m autistic and ocd and i can’t imagine someone throwing away my special interest items or moving them out of place without informing me, hearing her call his fixations weird was a turn off, he definitely should have cleaned out the containers and kept them rather than let them spoil though
EXACTLY!!! There's SO many stories where the things that people call "weird obsessions" are obviously hyperfixations. It sucks to see people so completely weirded out by something that's just such a normal part of my life, yk?
bro olivia is kinda mean "you have something wrong in your brain" and "you should get that checked out" especially the "nobody should be dating him" comment to a clearly neurodivergent guy... middle school mean girl behavior. maybe i'm just sensitive but the vibes are off
@@alibea4598 same :( im lucky to have a partner that also has it and understands me but it is such an isolating feeling. hang in there, there's nothing wrong with you
Morgan, you know we love you. And as someone who is watching the video and not just hearing the audio I think you might also have realized what a mistake this guest was by the end of the first story. I don’t wish ill to this girl, but I think she needs to explore the world a bit more. Hang out with more empathetic people. And grow as a human. I sincerely hope she looks back at this in 10 years, and cringes, but is a better human at that point.
So I never knew who Olivia was until watching this episode, and immediately I don’t like her. She’s that typical mean girl in school/work that clouds the whole room with ugly negativity. She’s not funny she’s just rude.
I never heard of her either until this episode and I already didn’t like her after the first story. I normally will go back and rewatch THT’s old episodes after a while, but this one is the only one I will not go back to.
I love two hot takes so much, almost every episode I learn something new and theres always an effort to be kind and understanding with regard to the stories. For me, this girl is just too jaded/ maybe immature to take a logical and empathetic approach to her reactions of the stories which is usually portrayed in the podcast. IDK maybe I'm too old for this episode, but F logan paul lol
I was thinking this too :/ I don’t really relate to Olivia much, and she seems just a bit too famous and young to have really learned how to look at the posts with a empathetic lens like Morgan
@@scrambledmegg8704 exactly! This was my thought, and I absolutely understand Morgan expanding her guests to have more variety, but I think Olivia just kind of wasn't the right personality to have on this type of podcast! I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way
I truly love this show and 99% of the hosts that Morgan works with, and I understand that it's hard work - but please no more hosts like Olivia. She lacks any kind of subtlety when she hears about something, it's only "he's crazy" or "she's insane", there's absolutely no grey area or empathy for a side she disagrees with. And if she's not heard of it before it feels like she's unwilling to engage at all, to maybe consider why someone might do something. Then again, based on how she doesn't want a healthy relationship because it's not song material... it checks out. Still, this was a struggle to get through, especially after the amazingly insightful therapists, or even just the experienced adults like Justin or Alejandra.
I agree! It was frustrating that none of the takes went in depth at all, I can maybe understand for a different kind of podcast but when the whole concept is reddit stories, you need to have a better take than "he's insane". I understand that because guests might be famous it can be scary to disagree with them and get angry fans come at you, but this wasn't great :/
Giving high school bully vibes for sure. The same people that think lacking empathy and purely putting down anyone and everyone they simply don’t understand. She needs to mature quite a bit. She also shouldn’t put up with male friends that are so demeaning towards women? Love the show, big no on this guest.
Yeah….. her age has nothing to do with her maturity, it’s who she’s hanging around with… I mean logan Paul? Really? That dude is almost 30 and still acts like he’s 16.
this episode was such a letdown, olivias takes are shallow and superficial, she gives off high school mean girl vibes and just didnt give any value to the episode for me
The story with the newlywed wife who overheard the husband's conversation about her looks is so heartbreaking 😭 if I overheard that, I would feel so horrible.
I was trying to find comment about this story. From one side this is hurtful for her but I think that his feelings were valid. It would be a perfect, dream love if he would see her as prettiest girl ever, but in my opinion his love is more realistic. He can have issues with her looks but he loves her and being with her brings him happiness. Maybe when he first time met her he said she is not in his type but he later on falled in love with her. His "friends" are real Asholes here. This girl who kept asking seems jealous and entitled. Maybe she had eye for him but he choos girl which she thinks is "more ugly" then her and keep pursuing him. There are lots kinds of love and physical attraction is not what everyone need to feel to fall in love. His words shows that he loves her for other reasons, not only for looks
I love this podcast and I get so excited when a full episode drops, but it was so hard to make it through this one. Olivia somehow made everything about herself and would go on 5 minute tangents that weren’t related to the story at all - she seemed to just want to talk about herself a lot. And she lacked nuance in her answers and didn’t try to have a back and forth about any of the posts. This guest was definitely one of the most immature I’ve seen. I wish Morgan would stick to her friends instead of trying to get “famous” guests. I’d rather them have real, intellectual, thought out answers to the posts instead of taking a hard stance right from the start. And the tangents. I just can’t. I was waiting for her to stop talking so we could get to the next post. I’m sorry Morgan, you’re the best, but this episode wasn’t it.
I’m here from spotify. I usually love this podcast but I decided to turn it off and read some comments to see if anyone was thinking what I am and yeah, some people are. Morgan, this episode was pretty fucking bad. I understand matching people’s energy but this was not the person to do it with. Im going to sit this episode out.
the thing that got me the most was morgan suddenly having mean girl takes and her personality shifting it she said some ick things in this where i don't think she would normally
It’s always good to hear different perspectives when it comes to these stories but this episode was…yikes. The amount of ableism and sexism coming from Oliva was astonishing to me. Like, I get she’s hurt from being cheated on and she’s young but the amount of negativity from her was honestly super annoying lol. Yes we love women supporting women, but can we not generalize all men to “all men are horny manipulative assholes”? I’m not gonna blame Morgan here since I understand that mirroring peoples personalities can be an issue (guilty lol 😭) but I genuinely hope Morgan can learn to have her own opinions and not be so much of a “yes man” when guests come on in the future. The podcast isn’t named “one hot take”.
agreed! I’m glad more people are talking about this. this episode was just so….off. I do wish Morgan would start disagreeing with the guest instead taking their sides.
right! Morgan cheering her on to be a divorcée (after Olivia said she would be) was kind of surprising to me. I don’t think many go into something as serious as marriage with the plan of being divorced. Idk vibes are just getting to be off with the podcast lately.
I could totally be remembering this wrong, but didn't Morgan say she has ADHD at one point? I have it too, and I have a tendency to match other people's energy as well, and sometimes in the moment concede to things until I think about it a little more and my mind catches up. If I'm right, I have a feeling this is part of masking--neurodivergent people learn early on that there's something "different" about them, and it's not always good to be "different," so we try to blend in. That said, I'm not trying to make excuses for the co-host's steamrolling, and I do think this episode is one I won't be returning to in the future... there are SO MANY other good ones, it's okay that I don't like this one lol
@@TheAdrift that’s a great point and something to definitely keep in mind! I know I think of things after a conversation that I just didn’t realize at the time. and i agree, there are so many amazing episodes that a small handful of not so great ones is still a pretty good ratio lol
This episode felt like hearing the hearing the high school mean girls talk crap about everyone in the middle of a lesson. I am a huge two hot takes fan and I couldn’t finish the episode because of the vibe.
I totally agree. I had to stop by the second story. Though it’s fair to share your opinion (as that’s literally the point of these videos), there was a lot of unnecessary judgement. People are different. That’s fine. No need to shame them for if it’s not hurting anyone (totally think it’s fair to say it’s not okay to force/expect someone to eat the skin of an orange Peel but okay. You can end it there as opposed to going on and on about how “weird” it is)
If the boyfriend in that orange story cares about that SO MUCH he should probably just ask his next girlfriend how she eats oranges from the start lmao
Constructive criticism: I feel like the podcast was getting soooo goooood with the professional guests and I love the regular guests too but this dialogue feels like a step backwards in terms of having a positive impact.
@@123strangelife I also agree! Morgan did mention in one episode after the one Tefi was on that she (Morgan) tends to match the other person’s energy on the podcast and find a way to agree with them even if she disagrees. Could explain why she sorta agreed with Tefi on the baby being left in the car and Matt’s take on the stripper story from a while back. But either way like…be yourself. Don’t turn into someone else because of the other person :/
@@fromsami I tend to talk like other people when I’m around them a lot. It’s not something that I can just turn off. So I completely understand Morgan with that. I wish I could “just be myself”, but I really can’t help it, I’ve tried to stop when I catch myself doing it.
They’ve had 2 professionals on and she said she tryin to get more but I’m sure it’s harder with ppl schedules and you gotta make sure ppl are reputable. Takes a lot of time
@@TheSupportWitch Basically a run down, she made a ableist statement and many sexist statements and she was literally doing what she commends men do Her ableist statement was that if you like collecting things then you need help And her being a hypocrite is that she would literally fight with her boyfriends until they would break up then the next day she’ll call them to tell them that it’s okay So literally she’s playing with their feelings And she was sexualizing eating orange peels, some Asian cultures eat the peels of Oranges and Bananas, and the peels are actually healthier, and the peels of Oranges/Bananas are used in some cookin
i think it was more the part about collecting perishable items and allowing them to go bad and make the house smell foul and create a biohazard, while completely dismissing your partner's concerns
Yeah...she is not my favorite guest at all. Only half way through and thinking about stopping and I always get through all of these episodes so easily.
Making fun of lisps and disability symptoms (third story) isn’t funny in 2022. The vibes in this one was off to me, I just didn’t like this guest as she seems super out of touch with regular people. I would prefer people who are in touch with society on something where you are talking about relationships, lives, etc. lol. I still love the show, just not this one.
I was super excited to see that Olivia was a guest but after listening... OOF who hurt her?! I totally get being frustrated w the stuff guys say or do but her saying that she's planning to be a divorcee by a certain age is just wild. You create your own reality my friend lol
@@user-lf6rn7ci5n every time she opens her mouth the diagnosis comes out 🤷 obviously 99% of the people here feel the same. I have loved all her guest up until this point. It's very clean some man hurt her and now EVERY man in her own words are foul! 🤷 Call it like it is. Sorry if you disagree but that's the beautiful things about opinions EVERYONE has one lol.
I don’t think Olivia can add value as a guest here, too superficial and too obnoxious… you can go with more of a chill vibe just as good with the usual guests 😊
@@joytika1995 I assumed it was, but crossed my fingers they weren't talking about logan paul cause I did not know the story and damn. the disappointment
"The peel actually contains more fibre and Vitamin C than the flesh of the fruit," Thornton-Wood said. "It also contains the polyphenols which are linked to prevention of many chronic diseases such as diabetes” Like I get that it’s weird and his reaction was a bit much, but comparing it to a fetish??????? Bit much
THT is literally one of my favourite podcasts. However, the guest of this week was not it. Her commentary came off as immature and superficial to say the least. Previous guests from recent episodes have been amazing though. I guess all guests can't be relatable to everyone. Still looking forward to next weeks episode.
the bf that collects yogurt may have a hyper fixation however it is definitely mixed in with hoarding. filling two rooms of over 2000 yogurt and having no space in your fridge for actual food, not being able to deal with throwing something away when it creates an unsafe environment (can attract pests, bugs, harmful mold etc) is all extreme behavior, goes beyond a neurodivergent hyperfixation and absolutely screams hoarding disorder, even if it’s organized. Hyperfixations can be intense but this sounds like hoarding/OCD behavior on top of any neurodivergent diagnosis he may or may not have. There are safe ways to have hyperfixations and collections but this is hoarding when it is out of control and becoming unsafe. I also think it’s more than just about crossing the girlfriend’s boundaries, even if he lived alone this would be unsafe and extreme for him to be doing with perishables.
Yeah, I’ve lived with a hoarder before and that shits intense and dangerous. Being a hoarder is a deal breaker for me because its traumatizing and creates so many living hazards. You need to speak to specialist because I’ve seen it ruin lives. That yogurt story - he needs empathy from people but dating someone like that is a lot of work. I know I’m not up for it - but I would encourage them to get help and help them find avenues for real support.
I love this podcast and I don’t comment nearly enough to reflect what I enjoy about it. That said, I think as a non-white with non-western heritage, hearing the way you both were ready to dismiss certain habits and behaviors as bizarre and mental really just comes off as really western and American especially. People groups across the board have differences that outsiders are not used to. Same for how you approach neurodivergence, though I know Morgan is not necessarily neurotypical. Given the direction the pod has been taking with talking to pros and more mature people, this was kind of jarring. I was entertained especially because of the lighthearted and informal mess of this, but many experiences doesn’t necessarily make someone mature, and immaturity can lead someone to say unintentionally alienating things.
Yea, as the pod went on I was getting more and more uncomfortable with olivia's takes. I know Morgan sometimes just agrees with her guests cause I mean It's a weird situation, but still I woulda like her to steer it away from some of the more "not okay" topics
Thank you for saying this! I'm first gen Haitian-American so I definitely relate to this critique. I don't expect most Americans to consider non-American persepectives but if you have a podcast where you could be reading a story from anyone of any race/experience, it is a very good idea to keep more than just the standard white American experience in mind.
@@mcsaism sure thing, I don’t like to pretend I know what other people are going through for what their life experiences are so this episode really made me cringe. Olivia lives in LA, and I really think she needs to take a look at her attitude towards other cultures and people suffering from mental health issues
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Yeah this is way too black and white for me, especially after all those therapist guests
But isn’t it beautiful to see how everyone’s brains process information differently :)
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@@TwoHotTakes I agree, you shouldn't keep from finding new guests just because I prefer episodes with your family&friends. Nothing against Olivia, it's some of your takes that surprised me
@@TwoHotTakes Morgan, we all know that some people read these stories and jump to conclusions without thinking too deeply or even attempting to empathize with the parties they dont personally identify with. If you want to sometimes have that kind of person on as a guest that is your prerogative. I just really, truly wish that you would yourself represent a more nuanced and mature perspective even when your guest doesn't. It seems like you have a hard time actively disagreeing with guests you dont know well, even when they are being problematic, and that you often match their energy, even if, as in this episode, that energy is just unnecessarily mean. I understand hosting is really hard and that is an uncomfortable place to be in. Most of your guests and most of your episodes are very good. But I don't think there is anything beautiful about this one. My constructive feedback is this: vet your guests more carefully and/or don't invite someone on if you won't feel comfortable challenging them. It is called "Two Hot Takes" after all. If you think you might not be able to strongly express disagreement with someone on air, maybe that means they aren't a good fit for this podcast.
Missed hearing more from Morgan this week. I feel like she had a lot to say but didn’t out of politeness. Maybe another hot “re-takes” ep in the future!!
yep! she has a tendency to mirror her guests, which are the makings of a great host, really, but in this episode it was really obvious that she was saying things just to appease olivia. looking forward to the regular repertoire of amazing, mature guests and hosts THT has always had
I always struggle with the guest episodes. I wish Morgan invited people who are not total strangers to her, I imagine it must be really hard to stay true to yourself when you're hosting someone you've never met before.
@@vendulakysela3164 but the episodes with the professionals and therapists go so well! Those have been some of my favorites! Good guests aren’t impossible, but these random guests are unfortunately more misses than hits.
Oof, I think I like the podcast better when Adults are talking. I would have loved it had Morgan spoken more instead of just agreeing with everything a guest says. She argues with Justin and the regualr girls no prob haha
The dude wanting to produce a baby the 'traditional' way with his wife's sister... The traditional way is not exactly 'easy' and could very likely take MULTIPLE tries. I have a feeling he is just into the sister. Gross.
I've only known it to happen on the first night with my sis. Literally lost her virginity the night niece was conceived. She has a med condition that explains it though.
Love the stories but the guest was not it :( She seemed like she wasn't into it the whole time which kinda dulled the mood. Idk maybe its her first podcast but a bit more energy from her would've been cool. At least Morgan carried the show
The boyfriend in the story kind of sounds like me… I don’t collect food, but i tend to hyper fixate on things and when I find something a like, I become hooked for a bit until I get tired of it and move on to the next. There’s nothing “wrong” with him. It could be autism, or adhd, or who knows, maybe he just likes to collect things. Those comments were really rude. He’s not undateable or a nut job.
I see your point about the comments being rude but I disagree that there isn’t anything wrong with him. Collecting something that endangers yourself and others is not okay. Having a house full of moldy rotting food isn’t okay and you should absolutely work with a therapist to figure out a better way to express your interests without harming others and yourself. Having a mental illness isn’t a get of jail free card. It can explain your compulsions and the things you struggle with. It doesn’t mean you get to make it someone else’s problem.
I see your point about the comments being rude and the delivery not being great, but I disagree that there isn’t anything wrong with him. Collecting something that endangers yourself and others is not okay. Having a house full of moldy rotting food isn’t okay and you should absolutely work with a therapist to figure out a better way to express your interests without harming others and yourself. Having a mental illness isn’t a get of jail free card. It can explain your compulsions and the things you struggle with. It doesn’t mean you get to make it someone else’s problem.
@@htenerf137 im not saying that mental illness is an excuse for poor behavior, but to call someone with a mental illness “crazy” or to rudely say there’s something wrong with him and for that he should be left alone forever isnt okay. Obviously he needs help to fix this behavior. But talking down on him isn’t a way to help it. It just makes people feel bad about themselves for having a behavior they can’t control.
@@courtneymichelle5746 I absolutely understand where your coming from. Hearing her say that collecting tipods from different cultures and countries was weird as fuck and a sign of mental illness, made my heart sink; I hate when neurotypical people put their two cents into something they know nothing about. As someone who also hyper fixates and collects frog figures, hello kitty, and stuff with dates on them it worries me to know people think I’m mentally I’ll for doing so. OP should’ve consulted in her boyfriend, not straight through his prized possessions away out of the blue.
I’m sorry but having 2.100 of anything doesn’t seem like healthy behaviour to me. It’s ok to be neurodivergent, i personally am, but you go seek help right? You get treatments and therapies to live a happy and healthy life (which is uncompatible with living with lots of perished foods)
on the orange story: I take issue with this because it comes down to a form of consent. She politely declined and they still pressured and judged her for it. Her declining to do something when the consequences of not doing it are harmless should not be the cause of a major fight. Even if the family were correct in how they ate their oranges and the girlfriend was the weird one, she is still not obligated to eat them.
I disagree and thought I’d provide a different perspective. In some cultures/households it is considered very rude to decline a food without at least trying it. You say there’s no harm to her declining, but there’s no harm to her doing it one time and then saying it’s not for her either. You say that the family judges her for it. Isn’t she already judging them by immediately thinking it’s weird that they don’t peel their oranges, so much so that she vehemently is against eating it? I agree that if she said no, they should have let it rest at that, but I can’t fault them for feeling embarrassed and judged. They were trying to include her and she made it very clear to them that she wasn’t even willing to try. Wasn’t even willing to compromise. You don’t know what culture these people are from or why they eat these oranges the way they do. From my end, it seems the OP of that story is the one passing judgement on others, not the other way around.
Morgan!!!!! I am at home in bed with covid. Couldn't wait for this episode to drop, but it was awful, or to be more exact , your guest was a nightmare. She shouldn't have been given the platform to spew that garbage. it went from bad to worse and I was hoping you would step up and put a stop to it, which you are totally capable of doing. Don't let people like this run the show... We keep coming back because we love you, and the majority of your guests! maybe spend a little time vetting them before they are let lose on the air.
I was genuinely shocked when I found out that Olivia is 22… she clearly has the emotionally intelligence of a young teen. She was extremely cold, obnoxious, shallow, and just annoying. I couldn’t even get through half this episode.
ive been using this episode as "white noise" while i study bc morgans voice is so crispy lmao 😂 but lsitening to olivias point of views is quite troubling
Just got to the part where she is talking about how men are toxic and then she lines out her toxic dating behaviors and let me just say😯 the double standard
The baking story makes me laugh. I love that chick and she totally did that in a good way but nothing to hurt anyone. I also like that Pete didn’t put down his wife and stood by her by having a laugh. W couple
Morgan, love you and the show, but please don't make comments like "I'm lesbian now". It's very hard to live as a lesbian and those comments are insensitive and dismissive.
I absolutely love two hot takes, but I just couldn't listen all the way through on this one. The commentary was just so cynical and unnecessarily mean which made it an uncomfortable listen and I have to admit, I know a lot of men suck big time, but the section on how men are basically horrible was a bit of a bummer to listen through as a man myself. I really wanted to like it as the episodes of THT recently have been top tier but this episode just wasn't the vibe I'm sorry :/.
Why would you bring someone so mean on here 😕 kinda disappointed. I like when you bring on guests who can actually be thoughtful and expound on the stories and the thoughts they have rather than it being so one note. I get you want a different take but atleast have the person giving it actually have a deeper thought process on their takes than the shallow ones given here. I don't even agree with some of the previous episode takes with other guests but they atleast were able to explain themselves more clearly than this person who seems like they don't want to be here and gives off mean girl attitude. Oh well, guess I just won't finish this episode.
on the orange story: the whole family WEIRD AS FUCK, but saying my family's oranges are better than all other oranges isn't weird, like my flatmates' (twins) family all used to hate olives until they moved into a place that has an olive grove and the whole family raves (not overly, if the topic comes up they'll be like they are amazing they wont like go on and on about it though) about their dads olives and will ask the parents to bring some down to them and i believe they sell the olive oil and locals love it. so their eating habits weird as fuck, but like thinking orange from x farm, in this case his parent's, is great and i'd never eat another because they can never compare isn't really culty, its just normal at least in rural/agricultural places.
I could be be completely wrong but number 3 (the collection one) sounds like it could be linked to OCPD, obsessive compulsive personality disorder, (not the same as OCD but more related to obsessions and compulsive issues with perfection and control. It has very commonly been linked to obsessive and compulsive tendencies to collect thing and hoarding.
i absolutely had to come comment on this video. I was listening to this on my way to work from my podcast app but after the orange story, i HAD to come comment. so, I’m Hispanic and we have lots of “weird” habits and things out of culture. I know in Chinese/Asian cultures oranges are a cultural symbol. I know we don’t have much from reddit because the update was deleted but did you all ever consider it was a cultural thing rather than a “fetish” or just a cute tradition??
I totally agree. Though the family should not have made a deal of it and the girl in the story was right to say no thanks, eating the peel is normal to many people and perfectly harmless. I hate the pith so I mainly have the peel candied if I do but this commentary was needlessly rude at times.
I‘m european, oranges don‘t grow where I come from, but I‘ve heard of people eating them with the peel. I feel like they jugded that habit too quickly, and honestly think they would‘ve judge me for my Balkan eating habits :/
I agree with this. Its common in asian cultures to eat dried orange/tangerine peels as a healthy snack or additive in soups, broths, medicine, etc. I also remember going to a friend’s house who was from russia and their family ate the orange peels raw because it contains lots of vitamin C. Also citrus fruits like lemons are put in whole (peel, seeds and all) into green juiced as long as they are organic for that exact reason. It is rewarding and makes life richer when we are open minded to other peoples cultures and experiences but i guess thats not for everyone🤷🏻♀️
Okay, I couldn’t even finish listening I had to chime in on the orange debate! First of all, Morgan, I love you, but not everything has to be a fetish. Second of all, about the story: totally wrong that they kept pressuring her while she refused BUT I kinda get where they coming from. 1) I grow a lot of produce on my balcony and it tastes very different from the store bought. Kale is soft and juicy and not at all hard and fibery, tomatoes have so much more taste to them… My point is maybe their oranges are different, maybe the skin on them is so soft and has a good taste. Maybe it is an entire experience. 2) There are usually more ways than one to eat something and sometimes you can discover so much more to something if you just try it in a different way. Doing your homework sitting on the floor feels better, walking barefoot after wearing shoes for a long time is amazing. This dude from the shower story probably had a wonderful experience showering without socks for the first time! 3) I personally don’t like people who react aggressively to your own traditions. It is honestly very western to dismiss something traditional to someone and call it weird. They grow these oranges! It is their thing! How much love and effort goes into it who knows maybe it has been their family thing for generations, and this person just Ewed this. 4) The peel is fucking edible! It is used in so many ways in baking and making sweets. People literally make jams with it and candy purely out of the peel. It can be hard when these oranges are stored for a long time and also too intense but I bet right from the tree? it might be better. 5) Oranges are juicy and biting into them like that you are sort of uncorking a bottle right into your mouth. You can drink the fresh juice right out of it. It does taste good, it is fresh, fragrant, and overall delicious, and you can spit out the peel part after! To sum up, this girl was invited into something new to her but precious to her bf and bf family, and she spit out all over it pub intended. They shouldn’t have pressured her but their feelings were hurt and it was valid just as her being confused too. Everybody is an asshole here. Okay I’m done.
I just envisioned like a movie.. the 3 of them waiting, watching, anticipating her eating that orange. And then pressuring when she didn’t.. my mind wandered 😂
Girl you have more of a back bone than this. The "hate all men no matter what" is beneath you and so are some of the other comments on here. You got this, just need to turn it around and you definitely owe an apology to your neurodivergent fans. Love this podcast and wish the best for everyone!
I’ll be honest, I love THT and always look forward to episodes every Thursday. However, Olivia did not resonate with me in this episode. From the beginning of her take on the shower socks guy, I knew I wasn’t going to like her attitude. I get that she’s 22, but come on now. She seriously has some growing up to do.
When you were talking about men’s luxe you had me so happy with myself until the very end when you just had to say “oh no bald guys though” Totally deflated me on that
For the story about the girl whos fiance had a crush on her bff: I dated my HUSBAND'S best friend for a year and a half before I started dating my husband Sometimes things just work out like that
For the yogurt story, I can see both sides to some extent. Me and my fiancé both have ADHD and he tends to hyper fixate on hobbies that can sometimes get out of hand or he will neglect an old hobby that gets cluttered. Me on the other hand grew up with hoarders and get overwhelmed with messes and clutter. The yogurt collection should have been talked about from the beginning (personally I would have brought it up as soon as I saw him put an open yogurt back in the fridge) but based on the story he already took it way too far and I can’t blame her for throwing it away.
Morgan, you should probably have more insightful guests on the podcasts. It’s a bit insulting to listen to someone that has literally nothing meaningful to say. Not a big fan of Olivia on this one. Still love the show tho!
Candied orange peels and using them in recipes has been around for a long time. And although most find it gross and bitter, as other commenters have stated, it does have a lot of health benefits
I really hated having to hear the guest you had on this. It was annoying to have a misandrist on here when it's hypocritical that men can't be prejudiced against women after getting cheated on multiple times or say as freely as her about "hating" a gender without being called an incel, where she's told "aww." I really found her negative outlook on life annoying and it did not match up with the hosts personality and attitude. "If I get married I know I'm getting a divorce." Seriously? So you want to marry a guy to take half of everything he has then? This girl is red flag city.
She’s not my fav guest they’ve had but I don’t think there’s harm in hearing someone’s perspective. She’s not telling you how to think just how she thinks. I dont agree but I also don’t want to live in an echo chamber.
Well remember the guest is young and had to grow up in the music industry so her outlooks are just different opposed to someone who’s older or hasn’t been in such industries. Im pretty sure once she falls in love w the one she won’t be thinking that lol
The stuff women go thru in this world harrassment never being taken seriouslly misogyny being jugded by other women always being told no matter what they do a man will always be valued more being critzied for everything olivias mindset is appropriate i actually agree with what she said and men need to wake up and start treating women like EQUALS.
with the orange story, I completely agree that if she doesn’t wanna eat it with the skin no one should force her or make her feel like shit. However eating a citrus with the skin is not as weird as you guys think. I come from a European family and I’ve eaten lemons with the skin especially when I’m sick. It actually has 10 times the vitamins and fibre than the actual fruit inside. Idk why they made her feel so bad like she was revoking a family tradition or something 🤷♀️
@@alaskaroller2192 that’s definitely has to be true. My bf eats lemons, limes, and oranges with the peels and also eats whole apples. Stems and seed and everything. He’s an animal
She quite literally was revoking a family tradition of theirs. I don’t understand people taking up for this OP. If it were just about eating a dumb orange, yeah sure it doesn’t matter. But it’s not about the orange. It was about trying to share a tradition with her the way they do it and her just straight up refusing and the only reasoning behind it is “it’s weird”. Her refusal seems rooted in judgement rather than any rational reason to not just try it one time. In fact, it seems weird to me that if you love this person and you want to connect with their family and you have no allergies or food aversions, that you would take such a staunch stance against at least trying it.
I can totally relate to what Olivia said about when you have feelings for someone they become attractive to you. I've dated guys that none of my friends found attractive but yet I thought they were the hottest guy on earth, especially if they have a dope personality.
I honestly had a hard time grasping the physical attraction to my husband at first because he was so different from my "type" but he was so perfect in every other way and 7 years later, it doesn't even matter. It definitely grows and changes, one of my friends told me that back then and I kept that in mind. Completely worth my own mental block I had to break down.
Yes! Not all love is tied to physical attraction, it comes from different sources and sometimes we need to get to use to some elements of different person. I'm sorry to say but look is nothing different that other person habit that we don't like. You cannot choose every element of your loved one and some things needs to be just accepted if you want to be with them and you love them. I understand that this girl probably have problems with accepting herself and that is why it hurted her so much but this for sure is not divorce worthy, maybe they need some therapy so they can work through this
I didn’t enjoy this guest or their takes, I do think some of it was offensive as a neurodivergent and just generally empathetic person but I feel like people are being to hard on Morgan. If you’re a fan of this podcast you should know Morgan is a good, understanding person and it’s easy to get caught up in what someone else is saying out of social anxiety and not thinking about or realizing how it might come off or be offensive until later. So hope you don’t feel too bad Morgan, you have always seemed sweet and I trust that 🤷🏻♀️
Also I think Morgan said somewhere that she has ADHD(I also have it) and she mirrors people's personalities even if she doesn't agree with their point of view, I can understand this because I sometimes do this as well, it mostly stems for me trying to make the other person happy, I don't know for Morgan and what stems them to mirror other people but I don't think they should get lumped in with Oliva
Her saying the guy can't date if he has something going on in his brain is incredibly ableist, everyone deserves love no matter what's going on in your brain.
No not necessarily, if he‘s going keep doing these kinda things that effect his partner negatively without any regard then he doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship He either needs to find someone who can deal with it or work on himself. Or just not date anyone
I used to have criteria (ridiculous in hindsight) when dating - must have tattoos and absolutely no facial hair. Literally the last 3 guys I dated had facial hair, including my current partner, and they're the only good guys I connected with and genuinely fell for. What someone looks like really doesn't matter, if you love them you'll find them attractive no matter what. I love my ginger bearded boyfriend and tell him at every opportunity how pretty he is.
Your podcast and Zane and Heaths Unfiltered are the only two podcasts I listen to and I’m hoping one day there will be a a collab just because I want to hear you read stories to them and their reactions. 😭😭
I dooo not like Olivia, she cut Morgan off sooo much.. adds pointless things to her stories, that she cut Morgan off to tell.. she has this vlog squad/ influencer “Nah that’s weird” especially in the orange story. Checked the comments. Glad to know I’m not alone and hope Olivia reads this and enjoys the criticism she so easily hands out to any subject.
The quality of discussion is low on this podcast. I appreciate trying to bring guests in, but this was more gossip than valuable takes as from previous episodes. The beginning was also very offputting as Morgan didn’t seem engaged.
Damn not Morgan standing by and accepting sexism on her podcast because she’s too scared to be confrontational and make her guest “uncomfortable”. Like if a man came on and said “all women are crazy” and “I don’t trust anything a woman says” this podcast wouldn’t have been posted lmao. The hypocrisy is stunning.
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7:16 - 1st Story
11:17 - 2nd story
25:38 - 3rd story
35:22 - 4th story
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This episode..😬
Omg thank you! There’s only one in the description and it’s not even right. Idk why they can’t add time stamps for all their episodes at this point
Orange pith is extremely bitter
@@karil6461 Im still getting replies on my comments cause of Olivias Takes
He’s a 10, but he tries to force you to bite into an orange
dead ☠️
Instantly becomes a 1
Hes a -2
Lmao
He’s a -99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
I usually just listen on Spotify but I came here to see what other people thought of the episode and from what I can see most people are thinking the same thing as I am
This has to be my least favourite episode so far, Olivia was very dismissive and unkind in her answers I don’t think she was a good fit for the podcast at all
Not only that but for this one, I think Morgan wasn't herself. Definitely my least favourite episode.
I did the same, just started (and stopped) listening on Spotify and stopped by the TH-cam to check out what people thought…glad I’m not the only one
I stopped the episode the moment Olivia started talking over Morgan.
I agree with that sentiment, not the best episode.
“i have lots of guy friends, and i hear the way they talk about women” ?? sounds like they shouldn’t be your friends then...? lmao
Literally what I was thinking.
Well her best friend is Logan Paul according to her . . . So her statement there “tracks” lol
Yes!! I would simply not be friends with them if my male friends talked poorly about women…
I also have multiple guy friends. They don't talk badly about women. Thats why they're still my friends lol. Thats so weird of her
And she’s basing all men on her limited experience with her male friends who bash women. 🙄
Eating the orange with the peel isn’t the weird part, it’s the fact that they were mad at her for not eating it the way they wanted. Like having an orange eating tradition every week is really cute, but why would they get legitimately upset at her for not biting into it? She still wanted to eat the orange with them and join in on the tradition. So why were they offended for something so minuscule? The fact that her boyfriend was upset afterwards instead of making fun shows it wasn’t a joke
I agree, people use orange and even lemon peels in many recipes, drinks, etc..I wouldn't be suprised if they are used in many different foods that you buy in the store. So, it's not weird to me that they eat orange peels..one quick google lookup and you can see that it is safe to eat. It's weird and uncalled for they are pressuring her to eat it and mad that she didn't.
It's their traditional to bite into it (idk for how long) but she felt uncomfortable so they should've respected that even if it is their tradition. It's understandable for them to be mad but not ok for them to push her to do it and not be respectful when she felt uncomfortable.
Control.
I’m all for hearing new perspectives and opinions but Olivia’s is not one of them. So full of entitlement, privilege, self centeredness, and overall bully vibe. There’s a clear lack of empathy and she just seems toxic. She’s not a good person to be around and you could see the negative impact she has on Morgan. I get Morgan is always trying to be nice to her guests and make them feel comfortable, but she’s indulging in that negativity. E.g. with the orange story. Usually Morgan would be the first to suggest maybe there’s a cultural difference or something. But no just straight up agreeing that it’s weird and wrong. Olivia just isn’t a good co host. No valuable opinions, is very pessimistic, and doesn’t even bother to step outside of her bubble to see stories from different lenses. She might be experienced in life but that does not equate to maturity. Her exposure to life comes from a very privileged background for sure
I agree. Somebody lied to Olivia several times and told her that she was fly, smart, and hot. And she’s nothing like that. She’s nothing of the sort!
She’s also 22
Right. My bf and I were so confused as to why eating an orange weird is a deal breaker? Like what??? This girls a brat and a bully
@@allisonfox2912 im 23 and i promise you I developed empathy and understanding for others by 22
marlie you are very fortunate to have had opportunity for growth. Not everyone utilizes those opportunities and for some it just takes more time. My point is she’s still relatively young so there is still hope... it’s starts to taper around 30, people get set in their ways.
I never comment but seeing other comments say the same thing is a relief. it’s very obvious that this guest is being very dismissive and is quick to consider anything and everyone “weird” if she doesn’t agree with it. Some people really do need mental help, but quickly saying it because you simply don’t agree with their actions without considering other possible explanations is dismissive. No other guest has been this quick to judge. But from other episodes, I can tell Morgan is much more empathetic and is careful not to quickly judge. I understand it’s hard to disagree with a guest!
Yeah i came to TH-cam from my podcast app, just to see the comments. Bc i was so confused by their reactions after the first story 😂
bananas
I thought I was alone. My least favorite guest.
yeah. it’s sad cause the yogurt guy sounds like something along the lines of asbergers syndrome or something similar. so to judge so quick and call them weird is sad.
Yeah I’m like nah she’s not mature for her age like Morgan says lol she got a lot of growing to do
I get that Olivia is 22 but… I’m 22 as well and her thinking about men is a mindset I used to have at 19. A lot of work for her is needed to gain more understanding of how complicated this world is. Nothing is white or black, sometimes things are grey. Arguing with the person to the point of breaking up and then asking them to stay the next day… very not healthy. Very draining. I recommend therapy when it comes to not trusting in relationships, it helped me.
They say you stop aging at the age you get famous at but, that’s only for absent minded people with no substance. Couldn’t be Olivia.
Agree she comes off as very immature. S
well i mean she just got cheated on so maybe give her a break
@@kobk4493 that is not an excuse to be an AH
She said she stayed because she was bored and I was like… are you serious right now?! Pffffttttt.
Olivia seems like the type of person who would bully me and then say “omg bestie it’s just a joke!!”
When she said the guy with the yogurt collection shouldn't be having relationships it made me feel bad for the guy because he should have the chance to find love and it's usually vain people who think otherwise
There’s someone out there for everyone. Just because they’re not for you doesn’t mean you should say they shouldn’t be with anyone. And then she made tons of comments of hating men, maybe men aren’t the problem, maybe it’s her 🤷🏻♀️
@@rosyrr1012 exactly. Some people have their eccentricities and that's ok
@@championanthony7643 I’m not vain, i have a kid. One I can’t have exposed to the mold and bacteria that grows on old yoghurt. It is unhealthy.
When you collect something that is actively unhealthy for you, or takes up more space than you have, you should seek help. This coming from someone with multiple collections. Difference is, I’m aware of what is an unhealthy collection, and would and have taken steps to fix it. I have hoarding tendencies. I have to actively police myself when i add to a new collection. And i would never start one so disgusting as this.
The yoghurt is a hoarding thing. He needs help. End of.
Yeah, she sucks. How embarrassing.
Not a fan of Olivia’s takes.. I feel like everything said was super surface level and her explaining that the kids should come first for wives and that they need support because “they’ll be handling all of the kid stuff” was weird
agreed, I was so weirded out by that comment.
I agree that her articulation isn’t the best but with that specific comment, I don’t believe it’s inherently wrong to say that people who have children should prioritize their children… If a woman gets married and has children, the kids are gonna come first…… the same goes for dads too. Once kids are in the picture, it’s all about them. It seems like she says things without thinking carefully about the wording.
“I have lots of guy friends and I hear the way they talk about women.” You do in fact get to choose who you surround yourself with you know…. 🤔 then proceeds to say she has a couple guys on the side that she keeps around but won’t date YET bc they’re too nice…. Then continues to have the audacity to talk about how “foul” men are and how badly they treat women. Huh????
Double standers at it's finest
Facts!!!
men hating women are kinda weird
she's the one all the "nice guys" talk about lol, such a weird mindset to have
@@roryisabellla2598 And that she’s friends with Logan Paul
This episode was hard to get through... I usually listen to them every Thursday while I work but it's almost been a week and I'm still trying to get through it. Morgan, we love you girl but this guest was a nightmare. I'm all for getting a fresh perspective but I've gotta say, I much prefer your usual co-hosts (Justin, Alejandra and Lauren)
I couldn't even get through it lol She's just jaded and man hating.. "Men culture" ?? Woman are just as bad lol I couldn't get through it at all.
agree
I respectfully disagree with the way Olivia judges neurodivergent people.
exactly
Same, except not respectfully
@@monaboukamel7803 too funny🤣🤣🤣
Holy shit…when did she say that?! Wow
@@ashsun144 I bet she reading these comments like 🫠😮
I really wasn’t a fan of this guest. I’m only halfway through and wondering if I can finish the episode. In the same breath as saying she doesn’t trust men (completely fair) she immediately goes into her toxic way of dating breaking up but then making up the next day and stringing them along. Then later saying the Dad should put the Wife first over the kids because as the Mom she’ll be taking care of the kids more??? Internalized misogyny much. Like what the actual F…..
She defends women shes the best
@@dylanjohnson3346 backing gender roles is the opposite of being a feminist and keeping a guy strung along for song material is Toxic. I don’t want her defending me. I’ve seen more mature 16 year olds…
In the world we live in, majority of child rearing goes on the mother, some are lucky enough to have a great, mature partner that helps equally or more, but the sad truth is that more always falls on the mother/wife when a man is involved as the other half of a "partnership". At the very LEAST Women have to carry the child, give birth to the child, if able to or chosing to breastfeed or pump for the child, & a woman needs to recover from all of this mentally & physically & needs their partner to be in tune & able to provide for their needs, which fully includes taking good care of the baby when she needs to rest because she's fuckimg exhausted! Lol idk about you, but I had a god awful pregnancy & had degenerative disk disease & post partem depression by the time I gave birth.
@@sydney100757 id take her over most men
@@phenomenalwoman6111 Still doesn’t matter. Parents should always put their kid before the other parent. Also if everyones responds to gender roles with “it’s always been that way….” It won’t ever change and they will be further reenforced like it’s no big deal by people similar minded like the guest. The more we say it’s the woman’s first priority and not the dads the more it’ll stay the same
On the story where the boyfriend had a crush on his girlfriend's best friend before they started dating: I agree with top comment. Stuff like that just happens and crushes don't mean much. He found her attractive but then he got to know OP and fell for her as a whole person. How she looks, how she acts, who she is. He's never tried it with the best friend so I really think that although he might have got close to them because of the best friend, he really genuinely fell for OP.
His friends are assholes for telling her like that but I don't think the boyfriend is and neither is OP. She has a right to be hurt and it's fair to lose some trust from it but work on it and build a stronger more secure relationship from it. If he's given you no reason not to trust him before, then trust him now. Honestly, his story adds up, his friends were exaggerating because they were taking the piss out of him
100% yesss
Yeah like she should’ve known already in a long relationship like that it’s kind of weird he never brought it up before but i can see why
I was also wondering if the best friend did it because he liked her or that there’s more to the story there (did they have a history or something). I felt like it really isn’t that big of a deal. I had a crush on one of my closest guy friends in college, we never got together, I left for law school and met my now fiancé who I adore and is my person. I met up with the friend for dinner because he was in town and literally the crush/attraction was gone. Just enjoyed his presence as friends. Like once you meet your person, no one else is an option (if you’re in a monogamous relationship of course) - at least that’s my experience
TOTALLY!!
I typically love the episodes but this one was just disappointing to me. Olivia seems very immature and like she wasn’t actually interested in being there. Her takes had little to no insight and were very surface level. I will admit I have no idea who she is so maybe I’m missing something on why she was invited on the show but I’m very confused on why she was there. Most of the other guests have made sense but this one was a miss, causing Morgan to carry the whole thing
Agreed. The constant narrative of "I hate men" become exhausting after the first 10 minutes and made the podcast very 1 dimensional
i kinda agree :( esp turned off by her commentary on the yogurt story
yea i definitely agree, don’t know who she is and when she said her age it definitely made sense by her commentary.
i’m like 30 mins in and i am very much annoyed. i find it funny when she says something completely out of line and morgan tries to reel it in lol. i wish this was reddit and i wish you were top comment. i def agree
@@internetblair yeah, it made me uncomfortable. It felt abelist considering the fact that the husband (were they married?) seems neurodivergent.
This episode was hard to watch. Morgan, I love you girl and this podcast is amazing normally but you have to grow a spine with your guests. Especially when your guests are mocking people with possible mental disabilities, hating on whole genders and therefore making your audience feel like shit. I honestly wanted to cry when listening to Olivia mock the yoghurt guy, having been struggling with OCD behaviour and ADHD myself.
I am sure this can't be easy on you either, remember that we only want the best for you and your podcast. Please for our and your own sake honey, no more being quiet, because saying nothing is sign that you agree with them and their hateful opinions.
Totally agree! Especially that Morgan works with sick people. She always shrinks herself with guest she’s not comfortable with then apologized in a retake episode.
I was thinking the same thing with the collector dude, strong warning signs of OCD
Not picking a side is picking a side when it come to these things.
Look do not hate on Morgan if you don't like the way she runs her show leave nobody is forcing you to be her look I get what your problem but blasting Morgan makes her feel you should think about that
@@sheryldube3056 It is quite sad that you think criticism is a synonym to hate. Constructive criticism is needed to be able to evolve and Morgan herself has asked us to please correct her if there is a need to. Please be more more mindful in the future before telling people to leave.
that bf that collects things sounds neurodivergent and like he hyperfixates on niche things to collect so her saying somethings wrong with his brain isnt wrong but definitely not the right way to put that. im autistic myself and i also collect "weird" things. admittedly, he should definitely stick to non-perishables, but neurodivergency is tough and throwing away a hyperfixation isnt the move. they should have talked about it long before it started to smell bad.
i want to add that i LOVED Olivia's energy through the rest of it, defending women, not trusting men. its queen shit, and she made me laugh multiple times through the episode. her take on that one story just felt a bit insensitive and hyperfixations might be a good thing to look into when/if she has the chance. they can really become a crippling thing, i know ive had a breakdown or two over a limited item i was unable to get or something that broke/got lost. love the podcast, love seeing new guests, just rubbed me wrong the way she phrased a few things in that segment.
I too, am neurodivergent (Autism, ADHD, and Tourette’s), and I completely agree, thank you for saying this. Personally I hyperfixate on collecting hello kitty items (Hello kitty is a special interest of mine), and it broke my heart to hear those negative comments as I put myself in the guys shoes, thank you
Same here, I collect a ton of stuff and continually get so many hyperfixations. I collect pokemon or Garfield stuff, build a bears, and books, but I also have hotel toilettes and hand soaps. I didn't realize til I was maybe autistic(I'm getting officially diagnosed soon but my therapist noticed I have a ton of symptoms) that I looked collecting and hyperfixing on stuff
i agree i’m autistic and ocd and i can’t imagine someone throwing away my special interest items or moving them out of place without informing me, hearing her call his fixations weird was a turn off, he definitely should have cleaned out the containers and kept them rather than let them spoil though
EXACTLY!!! There's SO many stories where the things that people call "weird obsessions" are obviously hyperfixations. It sucks to see people so completely weirded out by something that's just such a normal part of my life, yk?
bro olivia is kinda mean "you have something wrong in your brain" and "you should get that checked out" especially the "nobody should be dating him" comment to a clearly neurodivergent guy... middle school mean girl behavior. maybe i'm just sensitive but the vibes are off
Totally agree. The way she generalizes the entire male population is so immature too.
Right, this whole episode made me really uncomfortable and insecure about my autism
@@alibea4598 same :( im lucky to have a partner that also has it and understands me but it is such an isolating feeling. hang in there, there's nothing wrong with you
Not an excuse but I think it’s a maturity issues…
i’m saying!! and morgan just encourages it
Morgan, you know we love you. And as someone who is watching the video and not just hearing the audio I think you might also have realized what a mistake this guest was by the end of the first story. I don’t wish ill to this girl, but I think she needs to explore the world a bit more. Hang out with more empathetic people. And grow as a human. I sincerely hope she looks back at this in 10 years, and cringes, but is a better human at that point.
i love your take on this situation. point across but still respecful and peacful. we all can learn something from you ❤
So I never knew who Olivia was until watching this episode, and immediately I don’t like her. She’s that typical mean girl in school/work that clouds the whole room with ugly negativity. She’s not funny she’s just rude.
Literally when they said she was a singer I was like “who??” But her whole vibe was NOT IT.
I couldn't stand her talking over Morgan. I don't like how she treats her and I've only finished the first story
totally aggree
I never heard of her either until this episode and I already didn’t like her after the first story. I normally will go back and rewatch THT’s old episodes after a while, but this one is the only one I will not go back to.
I love two hot takes so much, almost every episode I learn something new and theres always an effort to be kind and understanding with regard to the stories. For me, this girl is just too jaded/ maybe immature to take a logical and empathetic approach to her reactions of the stories which is usually portrayed in the podcast. IDK maybe I'm too old for this episode, but F logan paul lol
Exactly how this episode felt. Looove two hot takes but this week's host felt a little bit condescending or maybe lacking empathy...
Totally agree, felt uncomfortable with the yogurt story and 'men' ones :/
This.
I was thinking this too :/ I don’t really relate to Olivia much, and she seems just a bit too famous and young to have really learned how to look at the posts with a empathetic lens like Morgan
@@scrambledmegg8704 exactly! This was my thought, and I absolutely understand Morgan expanding her guests to have more variety, but I think Olivia just kind of wasn't the right personality to have on this type of podcast! I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way
I truly love this show and 99% of the hosts that Morgan works with, and I understand that it's hard work - but please no more hosts like Olivia. She lacks any kind of subtlety when she hears about something, it's only "he's crazy" or "she's insane", there's absolutely no grey area or empathy for a side she disagrees with. And if she's not heard of it before it feels like she's unwilling to engage at all, to maybe consider why someone might do something. Then again, based on how she doesn't want a healthy relationship because it's not song material... it checks out. Still, this was a struggle to get through, especially after the amazingly insightful therapists, or even just the experienced adults like Justin or Alejandra.
I agree! It was frustrating that none of the takes went in depth at all, I can maybe understand for a different kind of podcast but when the whole concept is reddit stories, you need to have a better take than "he's insane". I understand that because guests might be famous it can be scary to disagree with them and get angry fans come at you, but this wasn't great :/
ooft i havent watched this episode yet, and now im worried lol
I agree with this comment. She was lacking any sort of self awareness and seemed very self absorbed.
Giving high school bully vibes for sure. The same people that think lacking empathy and purely putting down anyone and everyone they simply don’t understand. She needs to mature quite a bit. She also shouldn’t put up with male friends that are so demeaning towards women? Love the show, big no on this guest.
@@papertangerines7109 exactly what I thought
Just found out the “Logan” she’s talking about is Logan Paul… explains a lot tbh💀💀
Yeah….. her age has nothing to do with her maturity, it’s who she’s hanging around with… I mean logan Paul? Really? That dude is almost 30 and still acts like he’s 16.
No he acts like he is 13 lmao.
Sameeeeee, i just figured it out and that's my sign to not even bother finishing the other half of the episode
I knew who she was talking about, when she was talking about him 😂
Exactly my thought too. Like no wonder you have a horrible image of men, look who you hang out with.
this episode was such a letdown, olivias takes are shallow and superficial, she gives off high school mean girl vibes and just didnt give any value to the episode for me
Okay I was so glad I'm not the only one feeling like this :(
@@IceIceBirds i saw a bunch of similar comments so definitely not, the vibes were so weird tbh
Yess 100% i always love THT but this one kinda sucked. JBH
The story with the newlywed wife who overheard the husband's conversation about her looks is so heartbreaking 😭 if I overheard that, I would feel so horrible.
I was trying to find comment about this story. From one side this is hurtful for her but I think that his feelings were valid. It would be a perfect, dream love if he would see her as prettiest girl ever, but in my opinion his love is more realistic. He can have issues with her looks but he loves her and being with her brings him happiness. Maybe when he first time met her he said she is not in his type but he later on falled in love with her. His "friends" are real Asholes here. This girl who kept asking seems jealous and entitled. Maybe she had eye for him but he choos girl which she thinks is "more ugly" then her and keep pursuing him. There are lots kinds of love and physical attraction is not what everyone need to feel to fall in love. His words shows that he loves her for other reasons, not only for looks
I wonder if it was an arranged marriage. Or long distance 90 day sorta thing. Those were my two theories
I love this podcast and I get so excited when a full episode drops, but it was so hard to make it through this one. Olivia somehow made everything about herself and would go on 5 minute tangents that weren’t related to the story at all - she seemed to just want to talk about herself a lot. And she lacked nuance in her answers and didn’t try to have a back and forth about any of the posts. This guest was definitely one of the most immature I’ve seen. I wish Morgan would stick to her friends instead of trying to get “famous” guests. I’d rather them have real, intellectual, thought out answers to the posts instead of taking a hard stance right from the start. And the tangents. I just can’t. I was waiting for her to stop talking so we could get to the next post. I’m sorry Morgan, you’re the best, but this episode wasn’t it.
I’m here from spotify. I usually love this podcast but I decided to turn it off and read some comments to see if anyone was thinking what I am and yeah, some people are. Morgan, this episode was pretty fucking bad. I understand matching people’s energy but this was not the person to do it with. Im going to sit this episode out.
Omg, i literally did the same thing. I felt like this episode was really off and had to check if other noticed too.
@@amaliehehe2026 seeing so many comments like this I wonder if I should listen to it
@@emelinepetitot618 There are so many other good ones... maybe sit this one out tbh
the thing that got me the most was morgan suddenly having mean girl takes and her personality shifting it she said some ick things in this where i don't think she would normally
It’s always good to hear different perspectives when it comes to these stories but this episode was…yikes. The amount of ableism and sexism coming from Oliva was astonishing to me. Like, I get she’s hurt from being cheated on and she’s young but the amount of negativity from her was honestly super annoying lol.
Yes we love women supporting women, but can we not generalize all men to “all men are horny manipulative assholes”? I’m not gonna blame Morgan here since I understand that mirroring peoples personalities can be an issue (guilty lol 😭) but I genuinely hope Morgan can learn to have her own opinions and not be so much of a “yes man” when guests come on in the future. The podcast isn’t named “one hot take”.
I agree so much, the "I don't trust men" part was so sexist. Being supportive of women is not about hating men :/
agreed! I’m glad more people are talking about this. this episode was just so….off. I do wish Morgan would start disagreeing with the guest instead taking their sides.
right! Morgan cheering her on to be a divorcée (after Olivia said she would be) was kind of surprising to me. I don’t think many go into something as serious as marriage with the plan of being divorced. Idk vibes are just getting to be off with the podcast lately.
I could totally be remembering this wrong, but didn't Morgan say she has ADHD at one point? I have it too, and I have a tendency to match other people's energy as well, and sometimes in the moment concede to things until I think about it a little more and my mind catches up. If I'm right, I have a feeling this is part of masking--neurodivergent people learn early on that there's something "different" about them, and it's not always good to be "different," so we try to blend in.
That said, I'm not trying to make excuses for the co-host's steamrolling, and I do think this episode is one I won't be returning to in the future... there are SO MANY other good ones, it's okay that I don't like this one lol
@@TheAdrift that’s a great point and something to definitely keep in mind! I know I think of things after a conversation that I just didn’t realize at the time. and i agree, there are so many amazing episodes that a small handful of not so great ones is still a pretty good ratio lol
This episode felt like hearing the hearing the high school mean girls talk crap about everyone in the middle of a lesson. I am a huge two hot takes fan and I couldn’t finish the episode because of the vibe.
I felt that too
Ik right
I totally agree. I had to stop by the second story. Though it’s fair to share your opinion (as that’s literally the point of these videos), there was a lot of unnecessary judgement. People are different. That’s fine. No need to shame them for if it’s not hurting anyone (totally think it’s fair to say it’s not okay to force/expect someone to eat the skin of an orange Peel but okay. You can end it there as opposed to going on and on about how “weird” it is)
Same I really tried but kept on cringing every time the guest opened her mouth .
Morgan needs to have more guests like Sarah Schuer, Hannah Berner and My Moms a Therapist. They were incredible.
If the boyfriend in that orange story cares about that SO MUCH he should probably just ask his next girlfriend how she eats oranges from the start lmao
he even saw her eat oranges before
Right 😂 “I only date women who eat oranges with the skin on”
Constructive criticism: I feel like the podcast was getting soooo goooood with the professional guests and I love the regular guests too but this dialogue feels like a step backwards in terms of having a positive impact.
Yeah and Morgan is acting like a child with this girl and acting very obnoxious:( like on purpose to be cool or something:(
@@123strangelife I also agree! Morgan did mention in one episode after the one Tefi was on that she (Morgan) tends to match the other person’s energy on the podcast and find a way to agree with them even if she disagrees. Could explain why she sorta agreed with Tefi on the baby being left in the car and Matt’s take on the stripper story from a while back. But either way like…be yourself. Don’t turn into someone else because of the other person :/
@@fromsami I tend to talk like other people when I’m around them a lot. It’s not something that I can just turn off. So I completely understand Morgan with that. I wish I could “just be myself”, but I really can’t help it, I’ve tried to stop when I catch myself doing it.
that’s why i ran here from spotify to see if someone picked up on this too.. :/ might have to sit this episode out
They’ve had 2 professionals on and she said she tryin to get more but I’m sure it’s harder with ppl schedules and you gotta make sure ppl are reputable. Takes a lot of time
I feel like olivia would’ve bullied me in high school
she would've bullied me
Agreed. I actually can't finish the episode because of her.
@@danganryanne9499 lol why? Does she get worse?
@@TheSupportWitch Yes
@@TheSupportWitch Basically a run down, she made a ableist statement and many sexist statements and she was literally doing what she commends men do
Her ableist statement was that if you like collecting things then you need help
And her being a hypocrite is that she would literally fight with her boyfriends until they would break up then the next day she’ll call them to tell them that it’s okay
So literally she’s playing with their feelings
And she was sexualizing eating orange peels, some Asian cultures eat the peels of Oranges and Bananas, and the peels are actually healthier, and the peels of Oranges/Bananas are used in some cookin
I feel really weird about the "you have something wrong with your brain if you like to collect things" -.-
Me too, then she said that she likes to collect Root Beer bottles like as if she isn't being an hypocritic
i think it was more the part about collecting perishable items and allowing them to go bad and make the house smell foul and create a biohazard, while completely dismissing your partner's concerns
Damn, I get that the guest is basically a child but she didn't have any empathy whatsoever. The yogurt story... I barely finished this episode.
She was great
Same. I found that particularly upsetting
Yeah...she is not my favorite guest at all. Only half way through and thinking about stopping and I always get through all of these episodes so easily.
She interrupted Morgan so many times, and she spoke about herself so much. Smh
@@Grinchvanessa you just dont like strong women
Making fun of lisps and disability symptoms (third story) isn’t funny in 2022. The vibes in this one was off to me, I just didn’t like this guest as she seems super out of touch with regular people. I would prefer people who are in touch with society on something where you are talking about relationships, lives, etc. lol. I still love the show, just not this one.
agreed
& did the same shit in the yogurt story
I was super excited to see that Olivia was a guest but after listening... OOF who hurt her?! I totally get being frustrated w the stuff guys say or do but her saying that she's planning to be a divorcee by a certain age is just wild. You create your own reality my friend lol
50:23 "I'm such an angry, horrible, insufferable woman!" She said it, not us!
i feel like you guys are taking it a bit too seriously 😭 shes definitely just making jokes
She's definitely not making jokes!!! This is how she is. Seen her on other videos. She's a narcissistic gaslighter 🤷
@@trenidyduhon7364 u can’t diagnose someone you don’t know as a narcissistic gaslighter
@@user-lf6rn7ci5n every time she opens her mouth the diagnosis comes out 🤷 obviously 99% of the people here feel the same. I have loved all her guest up until this point. It's very clean some man hurt her and now EVERY man in her own words are foul! 🤷 Call it like it is. Sorry if you disagree but that's the beautiful things about opinions EVERYONE has one lol.
I don’t think Olivia can add value as a guest here, too superficial and too obnoxious… you can go with more of a chill vibe just as good with the usual guests 😊
...plus not a fan of Logan Paul and his supporters
I agree. She isn’t the right vibe and a little immature.
@@joytika1995 I assumed it was, but crossed my fingers they weren't talking about logan paul cause I did not know the story and damn. the disappointment
I was thinking the same thing! I really dont like her commentary
Shes a feminist queen and we stan her
"The peel actually contains more fibre and Vitamin C than the flesh of the fruit," Thornton-Wood said. "It also contains the polyphenols which are linked to prevention of many chronic diseases such as diabetes”
Like I get that it’s weird and his reaction was a bit much, but comparing it to a fetish??????? Bit much
THT is literally one of my favourite podcasts. However, the guest of this week was not it. Her commentary came off as immature and superficial to say the least. Previous guests from recent episodes have been amazing though. I guess all guests can't be relatable to everyone. Still looking forward to next weeks episode.
"I don't trust men"
"I can't ever trust men"
"I would start a fight everyday "
She's a whole red flag
I know right I was listening to this and I was like wow she’s toxic as fuck
Love Morgan and love Two Hot Takes but I cannot finish this episode. 😖 I'm glad to see in the comments I'm not alone in my feelings. It just felt off.
the way she talks over Morgan everytime she talks is ridiculous
the bf that collects yogurt may have a hyper fixation however it is definitely mixed in with hoarding. filling two rooms of over 2000 yogurt and having no space in your fridge for actual food, not being able to deal with throwing something away when it creates an unsafe environment (can attract pests, bugs, harmful mold etc) is all extreme behavior, goes beyond a neurodivergent hyperfixation and absolutely screams hoarding disorder, even if it’s organized. Hyperfixations can be intense but this sounds like hoarding/OCD behavior on top of any neurodivergent diagnosis he may or may not have. There are safe ways to have hyperfixations and collections but this is hoarding when it is out of control and becoming unsafe. I also think it’s more than just about crossing the girlfriend’s boundaries, even if he lived alone this would be unsafe and extreme for him to be doing with perishables.
Yeah, I’ve lived with a hoarder before and that shits intense and dangerous. Being a hoarder is a deal breaker for me because its traumatizing and creates so many living hazards. You need to speak to specialist because I’ve seen it ruin lives. That yogurt story - he needs empathy from people but dating someone like that is a lot of work. I know I’m not up for it - but I would encourage them to get help and help them find avenues for real support.
I love this podcast and I don’t comment nearly enough to reflect what I enjoy about it. That said, I think as a non-white with non-western heritage, hearing the way you both were ready to dismiss certain habits and behaviors as bizarre and mental really just comes off as really western and American especially. People groups across the board have differences that outsiders are not used to. Same for how you approach neurodivergence, though I know Morgan is not necessarily neurotypical. Given the direction the pod has been taking with talking to pros and more mature people, this was kind of jarring. I was entertained especially because of the lighthearted and informal mess of this, but many experiences doesn’t necessarily make someone mature, and immaturity can lead someone to say unintentionally alienating things.
Felt the same way about this guest. Not a fan. She seems awful.
I didn’t even know who Olivia was until this podcast. She seemed so immature and gave off this high school girl vibe for her age.
Yea, as the pod went on I was getting more and more uncomfortable with olivia's takes. I know Morgan sometimes just agrees with her guests cause I mean It's a weird situation, but still I woulda like her to steer it away from some of the more "not okay" topics
Thank you for saying this! I'm first gen Haitian-American so I definitely relate to this critique. I don't expect most Americans to consider non-American persepectives but if you have a podcast where you could be reading a story from anyone of any race/experience, it is a very good idea to keep more than just the standard white American experience in mind.
@@mcsaism sure thing, I don’t like to pretend I know what other people are going through for what their life experiences are so this episode really made me cringe. Olivia lives in LA, and I really think she needs to take a look at her attitude towards other cultures and people suffering from mental health issues
Yeah this is way too black and white for me, especially after all those therapist guests
But isn’t it beautiful to see how everyone’s brains process information differently :)
@@TwoHotTakes I agree, you shouldn't keep from finding new guests just because I prefer episodes with your family&friends. Nothing against Olivia, it's some of your takes that surprised me
@@TwoHotTakes when is Alejandra coming back? :( home girl’s been gone for weeks, is she okay? 🥺
@@TwoHotTakes Morgan, we all know that some people read these stories and jump to conclusions without thinking too deeply or even attempting to empathize with the parties they dont personally identify with. If you want to sometimes have that kind of person on as a guest that is your prerogative. I just really, truly wish that you would yourself represent a more nuanced and mature perspective even when your guest doesn't. It seems like you have a hard time actively disagreeing with guests you dont know well, even when they are being problematic, and that you often match their energy, even if, as in this episode, that energy is just unnecessarily mean. I understand hosting is really hard and that is an uncomfortable place to be in. Most of your guests and most of your episodes are very good. But I don't think there is anything beautiful about this one.
My constructive feedback is this: vet your guests more carefully and/or don't invite someone on if you won't feel comfortable challenging them. It is called "Two Hot Takes" after all. If you think you might not be able to strongly express disagreement with someone on air, maybe that means they aren't a good fit for this podcast.
Missed hearing more from Morgan this week. I feel like she had a lot to say but didn’t out of politeness. Maybe another hot “re-takes” ep in the future!!
yep! she has a tendency to mirror her guests, which are the makings of a great host, really, but in this episode it was really obvious that she was saying things just to appease olivia. looking forward to the regular repertoire of amazing, mature guests and hosts THT has always had
@@becomingbiddy YES YES YSS Put my thought into words both of you thank you
I always struggle with the guest episodes. I wish Morgan invited people who are not total strangers to her, I imagine it must be really hard to stay true to yourself when you're hosting someone you've never met before.
You could tell she would try to give a thought, but then the guest would talk over her to say something random.
@@vendulakysela3164 but the episodes with the professionals and therapists go so well! Those have been some of my favorites! Good guests aren’t impossible, but these random guests are unfortunately more misses than hits.
particularly superficial vibes in this episode
Oof, I think I like the podcast better when Adults are talking. I would have loved it had Morgan spoken more instead of just agreeing with everything a guest says. She argues with Justin and the regualr girls no prob haha
The dude wanting to produce a baby the 'traditional' way with his wife's sister... The traditional way is not exactly 'easy' and could very likely take MULTIPLE tries. I have a feeling he is just into the sister. Gross.
I've only known it to happen on the first night with my sis. Literally lost her virginity the night niece was conceived. She has a med condition that explains it though.
Oh he 1000% is. I’d leave him just for suggesting that. Perverse af.
I know it’s probably good for your views, but I prefer episodes with your bf/friends. I guess it’s nicer because we “know” them
The episodes with psychologists are amazing though!
Totally agree
I did love drew on there! But that’s already her genre
I really think the shower socks one was a lie and just a run off of the poop stick story
Love the stories but the guest was not it :( She seemed like she wasn't into it the whole time which kinda dulled the mood. Idk maybe its her first podcast but a bit more energy from her would've been cool. At least Morgan carried the show
The boyfriend in the story kind of sounds like me… I don’t collect food, but i tend to hyper fixate on things and when I find something a like, I become hooked for a bit until I get tired of it and move on to the next. There’s nothing “wrong” with him. It could be autism, or adhd, or who knows, maybe he just likes to collect things. Those comments were really rude. He’s not undateable or a nut job.
I see your point about the comments being rude but I disagree that there isn’t anything wrong with him.
Collecting something that endangers yourself and others is not okay. Having a house full of moldy rotting food isn’t okay and you should absolutely work with a therapist to figure out a better way to express your interests without harming others and yourself.
Having a mental illness isn’t a get of jail free card. It can explain your compulsions and the things you struggle with. It doesn’t mean you get to make it someone else’s problem.
I see your point about the comments being rude and the delivery not being great, but I disagree that there isn’t anything wrong with him.
Collecting something that endangers yourself and others is not okay. Having a house full of moldy rotting food isn’t okay and you should absolutely work with a therapist to figure out a better way to express your interests without harming others and yourself.
Having a mental illness isn’t a get of jail free card. It can explain your compulsions and the things you struggle with. It doesn’t mean you get to make it someone else’s problem.
@@htenerf137 im not saying that mental illness is an excuse for poor behavior, but to call someone with a mental illness “crazy” or to rudely say there’s something wrong with him and for that he should be left alone forever isnt okay. Obviously he needs help to fix this behavior. But talking down on him isn’t a way to help it. It just makes people feel bad about themselves for having a behavior they can’t control.
@@courtneymichelle5746 I absolutely understand where your coming from. Hearing her say that collecting tipods from different cultures and countries was weird as fuck and a sign of mental illness, made my heart sink; I hate when neurotypical people put their two cents into something they know nothing about. As someone who also hyper fixates and collects frog figures, hello kitty, and stuff with dates on them it worries me to know people think I’m mentally I’ll for doing so. OP should’ve consulted in her boyfriend, not straight through his prized possessions away out of the blue.
I’m sorry but having 2.100 of anything doesn’t seem like healthy behaviour to me. It’s ok to be neurodivergent, i personally am, but you go seek help right? You get treatments and therapies to live a happy and healthy life (which is uncompatible with living with lots of perished foods)
on the orange story: I take issue with this because it comes down to a form of consent. She politely declined and they still pressured and judged her for it. Her declining to do something when the consequences of not doing it are harmless should not be the cause of a major fight. Even if the family were correct in how they ate their oranges and the girlfriend was the weird one, she is still not obligated to eat them.
I disagree and thought I’d provide a different perspective. In some cultures/households it is considered very rude to decline a food without at least trying it. You say there’s no harm to her declining, but there’s no harm to her doing it one time and then saying it’s not for her either. You say that the family judges her for it. Isn’t she already judging them by immediately thinking it’s weird that they don’t peel their oranges, so much so that she vehemently is against eating it? I agree that if she said no, they should have let it rest at that, but I can’t fault them for feeling embarrassed and judged. They were trying to include her and she made it very clear to them that she wasn’t even willing to try. Wasn’t even willing to compromise. You don’t know what culture these people are from or why they eat these oranges the way they do. From my end, it seems the OP of that story is the one passing judgement on others, not the other way around.
Plz no more guests like this that don’t really have any input at all
Literally. This was mind numbing
I really didn’t like Olivia on the podcast it was very arkward and she gave off very mean girl vibes and don’t care what Morgan had to say
Morgan!!!!! I am at home in bed with covid. Couldn't wait for this episode to drop, but it was awful, or to be more exact , your guest was a nightmare. She shouldn't have been given the platform to spew that garbage. it went from bad to worse and I was hoping you would step up and put a stop to it, which you are totally capable of doing. Don't let people like this run the show... We keep coming back because we love you, and the majority of your guests! maybe spend a little time vetting them before they are let lose on the air.
I did not like this guest... she was somewhat rude
I agree, she could stand to pull back on the judgement.
This episode was an experience to avoid, I’ll wait for the next episode !
Morgannnnn please stop calling everything odd a fetish it’s damaging to the fetish community
Yeah, I was bothered that she went that route.
Idk what the fetish community is but I agree lol, just because it makes it a lotttt weirder, these orange people are weird but not creeps omg
@@maloumasereel966 the fetish community is just people with fetishes, but yes I agree!
Idk I swear I usually love all guests and their takes but Olivia didn’t pass the vibe check. Kinda disappointing tbh.
Cuz she spoke truth about men lol
@@dylanjohnson3346 No she just seemed so underwhelmed and like she didn’t even want to be there.
@@ilovejuudy i know her feeling as an introvert who hates the human race lol
@@dylanjohnson3346 nah she was trying to fight sexism with sexism 💀
@@carrotisaliethis world was made for men to succeed us women are starting to rise up and we wont stop till our rights are accepted
I was genuinely shocked when I found out that Olivia is 22… she clearly has the emotionally intelligence of a young teen. She was extremely cold, obnoxious, shallow, and just annoying. I couldn’t even get through half this episode.
I stopped after the first story. This episode was not it
I agree. I felt bad and judgemental until I saw the rest of the comments. I can't make myself get through it all.
I mean, she's cool with Logan Paul, I don't expect anyone associated with him to be a mature well-rounded adult
ive been using this episode as "white noise" while i study bc morgans voice is so crispy lmao 😂 but lsitening to olivias point of views is quite troubling
talk about peter pan syndrome huh
Just got to the part where she is talking about how men are toxic and then she lines out her toxic dating behaviors and let me just say😯 the double standard
The cake pop switch is hilarious!! Because the family's behavior deserved this switch up.
Her: How did you get these illegal yogurts?
Him: Don’t change the subject.
The baking story makes me laugh. I love that chick and she totally did that in a good way but nothing to hurt anyone. I also like that Pete didn’t put down his wife and stood by her by having a laugh. W couple
Morgan, love you and the show, but please don't make comments like "I'm lesbian now". It's very hard to live as a lesbian and those comments are insensitive and dismissive.
I absolutely love two hot takes, but I just couldn't listen all the way through on this one. The commentary was just so cynical and unnecessarily mean which made it an uncomfortable listen and I have to admit, I know a lot of men suck big time, but the section on how men are basically horrible was a bit of a bummer to listen through as a man myself. I really wanted to like it as the episodes of THT recently have been top tier but this episode just wasn't the vibe I'm sorry :/.
Why would you bring someone so mean on here 😕 kinda disappointed. I like when you bring on guests who can actually be thoughtful and expound on the stories and the thoughts they have rather than it being so one note. I get you want a different take but atleast have the person giving it actually have a deeper thought process on their takes than the shallow ones given here. I don't even agree with some of the previous episode takes with other guests but they atleast were able to explain themselves more clearly than this person who seems like they don't want to be here and gives off mean girl attitude. Oh well, guess I just won't finish this episode.
Olivia deserves better friends tbh
They couldn't control themselves enough to not get too wasted to make her set? WTF
It didn’t sound like her losing weight was intentional. She deserves someone who recognizes her beauty and makes her feel beautiful.
on the orange story: the whole family WEIRD AS FUCK, but saying my family's oranges are better than all other oranges isn't weird, like my flatmates' (twins) family all used to hate olives until they moved into a place that has an olive grove and the whole family raves (not overly, if the topic comes up they'll be like they are amazing they wont like go on and on about it though) about their dads olives and will ask the parents to bring some down to them and i believe they sell the olive oil and locals love it. so their eating habits weird as fuck, but like thinking orange from x farm, in this case his parent's, is great and i'd never eat another because they can never compare isn't really culty, its just normal at least in rural/agricultural places.
I could be be completely wrong but number 3 (the collection one) sounds like it could be linked to OCPD, obsessive compulsive personality disorder, (not the same as OCD but more related to obsessions and compulsive issues with perfection and control. It has very commonly been linked to obsessive and compulsive tendencies to collect thing and hoarding.
It could also be just a tendency to hyperfixate, which is also linked to things like autism and ADHD.
i absolutely had to come comment on this video. I was listening to this on my way to work from my podcast app but after the orange story, i HAD to come comment. so, I’m Hispanic and we have lots of “weird” habits and things out of culture. I know in Chinese/Asian cultures oranges are a cultural symbol. I know we don’t have much from reddit because the update was deleted but did you all ever consider it was a cultural thing rather than a “fetish” or just a cute tradition??
I totally agree. Though the family should not have made a deal of it and the girl in the story was right to say no thanks, eating the peel is normal to many people and perfectly harmless. I hate the pith so I mainly have the peel candied if I do but this commentary was needlessly rude at times.
I‘m european, oranges don‘t grow where I come from, but I‘ve heard of people eating them with the peel. I feel like they jugded that habit too quickly, and honestly think they would‘ve judge me for my Balkan eating habits :/
I agree with this. Its common in asian cultures to eat dried orange/tangerine peels as a healthy snack or additive in soups, broths, medicine, etc. I also remember going to a friend’s house who was from russia and their family ate the orange peels raw because it contains lots of vitamin C. Also citrus fruits like lemons are put in whole (peel, seeds and all) into green juiced as long as they are organic for that exact reason. It is rewarding and makes life richer when we are open minded to other peoples cultures and experiences but i guess thats not for everyone🤷🏻♀️
Okay, I couldn’t even finish listening I had to chime in on the orange debate! First of all, Morgan, I love you, but not everything has to be a fetish. Second of all, about the story: totally wrong that they kept pressuring her while she refused BUT I kinda get where they coming from. 1) I grow a lot of produce on my balcony and it tastes very different from the store bought. Kale is soft and juicy and not at all hard and fibery, tomatoes have so much more taste to them… My point is maybe their oranges are different, maybe the skin on them is so soft and has a good taste. Maybe it is an entire experience. 2) There are usually more ways than one to eat something and sometimes you can discover so much more to something if you just try it in a different way. Doing your homework sitting on the floor feels better, walking barefoot after wearing shoes for a long time is amazing. This dude from the shower story probably had a wonderful experience showering without socks for the first time! 3) I personally don’t like people who react aggressively to your own traditions. It is honestly very western to dismiss something traditional to someone and call it weird. They grow these oranges! It is their thing! How much love and effort goes into it who knows maybe it has been their family thing for generations, and this person just Ewed this. 4) The peel is fucking edible! It is used in so many ways in baking and making sweets. People literally make jams with it and candy purely out of the peel. It can be hard when these oranges are stored for a long time and also too intense but I bet right from the tree? it might be better. 5) Oranges are juicy and biting into them like that you are sort of uncorking a bottle right into your mouth. You can drink the fresh juice right out of it. It does taste good, it is fresh, fragrant, and overall delicious, and you can spit out the peel part after! To sum up, this girl was invited into something new to her but precious to her bf and bf family, and she spit out all over it pub intended. They shouldn’t have pressured her but their feelings were hurt and it was valid just as her being confused too. Everybody is an asshole here. Okay I’m done.
I second the fetish thing haha 😅
I just envisioned like a movie.. the 3 of them waiting, watching, anticipating her eating that orange. And then pressuring when she didn’t.. my mind wandered 😂
@@TwoHotTakesomg hi Morgan! Yeah I mean my mind is in a gutter too sometimes 😅
Morgan for the love of god…not every weird quirk or habit is a fetish…
But what if it is… how can we really know 😏😛
It might be a guilty pleasure
@@TwoHotTakes super crappy response here.
how is eating an orange peel a fetish. big reach.
@@TwoHotTakeslove the podcast - genuinely shocked at this response.
Girl you have more of a back bone than this. The "hate all men no matter what" is beneath you and so are some of the other comments on here. You got this, just need to turn it around and you definitely owe an apology to your neurodivergent fans. Love this podcast and wish the best for everyone!
I’ll be honest, I love THT and always look forward to episodes every Thursday. However, Olivia did not resonate with me in this episode. From the beginning of her take on the shower socks guy, I knew I wasn’t going to like her attitude. I get that she’s 22, but come on now. She seriously has some growing up to do.
When you were talking about men’s luxe you had me so happy with myself until the very end when you just had to say “oh no bald guys though”
Totally deflated me on that
For the story about the girl whos fiance had a crush on her bff:
I dated my HUSBAND'S best friend for a year and a half before I started dating my husband
Sometimes things just work out like that
I had a similar experience when i was 14/15 and everything went fine, no probs whatsoever
If as she said he’s an amazing partner, i wouldn’t bother
For the yogurt story, I can see both sides to some extent. Me and my fiancé both have ADHD and he tends to hyper fixate on hobbies that can sometimes get out of hand or he will neglect an old hobby that gets cluttered. Me on the other hand grew up with hoarders and get overwhelmed with messes and clutter.
The yogurt collection should have been talked about from the beginning (personally I would have brought it up as soon as I saw him put an open yogurt back in the fridge) but based on the story he already took it way too far and I can’t blame her for throwing it away.
Morgan, you should probably have more insightful guests on the podcasts. It’s a bit insulting to listen to someone that has literally nothing meaningful to say. Not a big fan of Olivia on this one. Still love the show tho!
Candied orange peels and using them in recipes has been around for a long time. And although most find it gross and bitter, as other commenters have stated, it does have a lot of health benefits
But they’re not eating candied orange peels, they’re eating raw ones 😂
@@dianabiondo550 AND basically forcing her to do it.
honstly this episode is the most unagreeable for me. I agree with the nta/yta ratings but the reasoning seem so non empathetic.
i’m begging you to add chapters!! i zone out and want to restart a story but it takes me awhile to find it
She puts time stamps in the description you just click them and it takes you to the story!
I just went and looked she hasn’t put all the time stamps for this episode for some reason but usually it’s there lol
If you watch on a smart tv you can't see description or comments etc. so it has to be chapters
I really hated having to hear the guest you had on this. It was annoying to have a misandrist on here when it's hypocritical that men can't be prejudiced against women after getting cheated on multiple times or say as freely as her about "hating" a gender without being called an incel, where she's told "aww." I really found her negative outlook on life annoying and it did not match up with the hosts personality and attitude. "If I get married I know I'm getting a divorce." Seriously? So you want to marry a guy to take half of everything he has then? This girl is red flag city.
She’s not my fav guest they’ve had but I don’t think there’s harm in hearing someone’s perspective. She’s not telling you how to think just how she thinks. I dont agree but I also don’t want to live in an echo chamber.
Well remember the guest is young and had to grow up in the music industry so her outlooks are just different opposed to someone who’s older or hasn’t been in such industries. Im pretty sure once she falls in love w the one she won’t be thinking that lol
The stuff women go thru in this world harrassment never being taken seriouslly misogyny being jugded by other women always being told no matter what they do a man will always be valued more being critzied for everything olivias mindset is appropriate i actually agree with what she said and men need to wake up and start treating women like EQUALS.
yea hard no on this guest this time..didnt like her vibe at all..but i appreciate you trying to bring in new voices.
with the orange story, I completely agree that if she doesn’t wanna eat it with the skin no one should force her or make her feel like shit. However eating a citrus with the skin is not as weird as you guys think. I come from a European family and I’ve eaten lemons with the skin especially when I’m sick. It actually has 10 times the vitamins and fibre than the actual fruit inside. Idk why they made her feel so bad like she was revoking a family tradition or something 🤷♀️
My dad swears that eating the peel with the lemon cuts the sourness enough to eat like an apple haha
@@alaskaroller2192 that’s definitely has to be true. My bf eats lemons, limes, and oranges with the peels and also eats whole apples. Stems and seed and everything. He’s an animal
She quite literally was revoking a family tradition of theirs. I don’t understand people taking up for this OP. If it were just about eating a dumb orange, yeah sure it doesn’t matter. But it’s not about the orange. It was about trying to share a tradition with her the way they do it and her just straight up refusing and the only reasoning behind it is “it’s weird”. Her refusal seems rooted in judgement rather than any rational reason to not just try it one time. In fact, it seems weird to me that if you love this person and you want to connect with their family and you have no allergies or food aversions, that you would take such a staunch stance against at least trying it.
I can totally relate to what Olivia said about when you have feelings for someone they become attractive to you. I've dated guys that none of my friends found attractive but yet I thought they were the hottest guy on earth, especially if they have a dope personality.
39:53 this comment 'I just can't ever believe men' is a little harsh. Not all men are liar's. Not all men are bad people
lol
Thank you! That annoyed me so much I had to see if anyone else commented on it.
I honestly had a hard time grasping the physical attraction to my husband at first because he was so different from my "type" but he was so perfect in every other way and 7 years later, it doesn't even matter. It definitely grows and changes, one of my friends told me that back then and I kept that in mind. Completely worth my own mental block I had to break down.
Yes! Not all love is tied to physical attraction, it comes from different sources and sometimes we need to get to use to some elements of different person. I'm sorry to say but look is nothing different that other person habit that we don't like. You cannot choose every element of your loved one and some things needs to be just accepted if you want to be with them and you love them. I understand that this girl probably have problems with accepting herself and that is why it hurted her so much but this for sure is not divorce worthy, maybe they need some therapy so they can work through this
i agree with the rest of comments. really didn’t like this girl very shallow and superficial.
makes sense tho growing up in LA
I didn’t enjoy this guest or their takes, I do think some of it was offensive as a neurodivergent and just generally empathetic person but I feel like people are being to hard on Morgan. If you’re a fan of this podcast you should know Morgan is a good, understanding person and it’s easy to get caught up in what someone else is saying out of social anxiety and not thinking about or realizing how it might come off or be offensive until later. So hope you don’t feel too bad Morgan, you have always seemed sweet and I trust that 🤷🏻♀️
agreed💗💗💗
Also I think Morgan said somewhere that she has ADHD(I also have it) and she mirrors people's personalities even if she doesn't agree with their point of view, I can understand this because I sometimes do this as well, it mostly stems for me trying to make the other person happy, I don't know for Morgan and what stems them to mirror other people but I don't think they should get lumped in with Oliva
Her saying the guy can't date if he has something going on in his brain is incredibly ableist, everyone deserves love no matter what's going on in your brain.
and don't call it red flags, again, incredibly ableist
No not necessarily, if he‘s going keep doing these kinda things that effect his partner negatively without any regard then he doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship
He either needs to find someone who can deal with it or work on himself. Or just not date anyone
Bigots murderers peds abusers dictators dont beserve love
I used to have criteria (ridiculous in hindsight) when dating - must have tattoos and absolutely no facial hair. Literally the last 3 guys I dated had facial hair, including my current partner, and they're the only good guys I connected with and genuinely fell for. What someone looks like really doesn't matter, if you love them you'll find them attractive no matter what.
I love my ginger bearded boyfriend and tell him at every opportunity how pretty he is.
Your podcast and Zane and Heaths Unfiltered are the only two podcasts I listen to and I’m hoping one day there will be a a collab just because I want to hear you read stories to them and their reactions. 😭😭
Yessss a great idea!!💯💯❤
Yassss same here!!!
Great idea!
this^^^
I dooo not like Olivia, she cut Morgan off sooo much.. adds pointless things to her stories, that she cut Morgan off to tell.. she has this vlog squad/ influencer “Nah that’s weird” especially in the orange story. Checked the comments. Glad to know I’m not alone and hope Olivia reads this and enjoys the criticism she so easily hands out to any subject.
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7:16 first story
11:17 second story
25:38 third story
35:22 Fourth Story
41:07 Fifth Story
54:30 6th story
1:08:30 7th story
1:16:50 8th story
The quality of discussion is low on this podcast. I appreciate trying to bring guests in, but this was more gossip than valuable takes as from previous episodes. The beginning was also very offputting as Morgan didn’t seem engaged.
Damn not Morgan standing by and accepting sexism on her podcast because she’s too scared to be confrontational and make her guest “uncomfortable”. Like if a man came on and said “all women are crazy” and “I don’t trust anything a woman says” this podcast wouldn’t have been posted lmao. The hypocrisy is stunning.