I’m so glad other people liked it too! It was a little under the radar but the Dad was so funny! And Jamie Lunar from Melrose Place and Heather Langercamp from Nightmare on Elm Street were in it?💕
Melrose Place was a spin off of Beverly Hills 90210 and Model's Inc was a spin off of Melrose Place. Model's Inc. didn't last but one season. Those were the days when I only had air channels in my room so I watched everything on the Fox channel. lmao
@@stacykeller3812 I recently re-watched BH 90210 series and I had a good ol time. When the show was running, I only watched season 3 through 5, so a lot of it was brand new to me. I gotta re-watch Melrose Place.
@@ashlenriopelle274 I watched the first 2 seasons of Melrose Place before I stopped following it. I was 10-11 year-old watching those shows, so once I got a little older, other things started occupying my time and I never finished the series. Hopefully, it will be available soon for streaming.
Who’s the Boss makes me feel a little old. A few months ago I was in the hospital and I was watching Who’s the Boss reruns on TV; and the nurse had never heard of the show. 😶
Ouch, to the young nurse response. But, appropriate to have old age pain while in the hospital. sorry, that is a stretch. Hopefully not a painful stretch; and, damn I did it again.😗😏
@@COMPFUNK2 Mona from Who's The Boss also had a failed backdoor pilot two part episode! Something to do with a Hotel. Not to mention a young Fran Drescher also had a backdoor pilot episode on Who's The Boss?🏨📺📼🙋♀
I feel like Joey deserved a spot on this list even though it got a season on TV. Aside from that, the original back door pilot for Empty Nest, featuring Rita Moreno, also deserved a mention. The explanation from Moreno about how problematic the episode was is fascinating
@@kcbh24 it was an episode of the Golden Girls but it was intended to be a back door pilot for a spin-off about a married couple whose children had grown up and left home, with Moreno as the star. It was very problematic because of a bad script that Susan Harris didn’t have an opportunity to do proper rewrites on and thus didn’t get picked up - but they kept the name and the house and tried again with obviously a different cast and set up and that one was successful
@@LennyT007 more like a season and a half with, if I recall correctly, some significant retooling in the second season to try to reverse the major ratings decline it saw in the first season. Even one of the producers of Friends (who also worked on Joey) said the network and other producers on Joey wouldn’t listen when he tried to say they were destroying everything that made the character likable on Friends. Also, given how heavily NBC promoted Joey at first, it became a pretty high profile flop for the network
And lets not forget Joanie Loves Chachi. Erin Moran I understand didn’t want to leave Happy Days but did the show anyways. The Bill Mahar one had me 😂😂😂.😊
any time there is a popular side character that is comic relief and they give them a show it almost never works because what makes them work is they are used sparingly
also that comic relief has great chemistry with THAT cast. you take that character (ie. joey from friends or pam from martin) and expect the same chemistry with a new group.
All In The Family amazingly had 5 spin-offs. The Jeffersons, Maude, Archie Bunker's Place, Gloria, and 704 Hauser. Good Times was a spin-off of Maude and Checking In was a spin-off of The Jeffersons so they are connected too.
happy days (which is a spin off itself) had six, if you count the cartoon. mork & mindy laverne & shirley blanksy's Beauties joanie loves chachi out of the blue fonz & the happy days gang.
@@flobrez2470 In Gloria, the Vet doctor was played by Burgess Meredith (aka the Penguin from the 1960's Batman series). As I recall Gloria was cancelled due to low ratings and the fact that Burgess Meredith had become quite ill.
Actress Leah Remini was in other failed tv shows such as The Man In The Family, First Time Out and Fired Up. Not to mention recurring and guest appearances on Cheers, Friends, Evening Shade, Home Improvement, The Commish, Diagnosis Murder, Renegade, Saved By The Bell, The Hogan Family and Blossom. She is best known for her role Carrie on King Of Queens. 🙋♀📺💃🙏
@@mysocalledgenxlife She was working hard. It was really nice when she finally got her own series, and her series did well. She was Carla's daughter on _Cheers_. She was Taylor's girl friend on _Evening Shade_.
6-year old me in 1988 got in trouble the night "The Incredible Hulk Returns" premiered and I got sent to bed early. Luckily my mom knew how badly I wanted to see that movie and she ended up letting me watch the movie. I have to watch those movies again, it's been DECADES.
@@mysocalledgenxlife Natalie you forgot to talk about the 80's retool attempt at Kelly's Kids rebranded as "Together We Stand" which lasted 19 episodes! This incarnation of the show starred Elliot Gould, Dee Wallace Stone and Data from The Goonies. 🙋📺📼🕵
I completely remember it too .I checked IMDb and it shows the Jackee show has a 23 minute TV movie so there must have been a pilot episode that actually aired and not just a backdoor pilot
I think you did GREAT! I just absolutely LOVE your channel!!! It always brings back to a (in my opinion) happier time in the world. I miss it so much and I would do almost anything to go back again!
Wow, so many "before they were stars". I totally remember that Home Improvement episode but didn't know Dave and Jim back then. Never heard of Buddies though. I also always wondered what was up with that "Kelly's Kids" episode of Brady Bunch. I always thought it was just because they ran out of ideas lol but now I get it. And I definitely remember watching Living Dolls. I watched all the other regular shows too, but never knew about the attempted spin-offs except for maybe Jackee. This was so fun, thanks!
@tobesocourtney Did you know that Todd Lookinland who plays Matt is the real- life brother of Mike Lookinland who plays Bobby Brady? Also Sherwood Swartz did retool Kelly's Kids in the 80's rebranding the show and changing the title to Together We Stand starring Elliot Gould, Dee Wallace Stone and Data from The Goonies. Moving away from The Brady's wasnt bad for a show that premiered over a decade after Kelly's Kids. It lasted longer on it's own accord 19 episodes! 🤗📺📼👍
Gimme A Break had a backdoor spin-off with Ola Ray. Michael Jackson's girlfriend in the Thriller video. Don't forget Dynasty had a spin-off called The Colbys. It starred the great Barbara Stanwyck and the great Charleton Heston. It only lasted 2 seasons.
Older Gen X here. You probably aren't aware of "The New Monkees" 1987 Fox show. Huge flop, Great music, could have been huge like the original Monkees.
I’m actually making a video about shows from the 60s that were rebooted in the 80s! The New Monkees, the New Munsters, Back to Mayberry, etc..! It was a major trend!
The Brady bunch variety hour and living Dolls were part of the 50 worst spin offs ever in TV guide. I viewed the whole living Dolls series right here on TH-cam. They even brought in Marion Ross you know, Mrs C to try to save it I guess but it was probably already doomed. A very good compilation. I guess you could have also included just the ten of us.
In my opinion, The lisp is kinda cool. For some reason, it reminds me of the 80s. Remember how it seemed like movies and shows gave us the impression, at least, that all dental correction devices were like torturous head gear. It seemed to be a common character trait to have some type of lisp due to a sadistic dentist; little shop, technically 80s movie. Nonsequiter: Speaking of weird impressions that we got as kids, besides high school kids looking like they were in their late 20s: Remember the brilliant marketing campaign where many characters it seemed walked around eating from giant party sized bags of potato chips (crisps.) I think Lay's? As a kid, I thought people just did that. Going out to the hole in the wall club, grab a snack. Anyway, Cool lisp.
Love the fact that you are not using AI voiceovers for your videos. Some real eye-openers here, especially the CHiPs spin-off. CHiPs was one of my favorites growing up and I will still binge these days.
Another is Married with Children had 3 backdoor pilots (Enemies, Top of the Heap, Radio Free Tremaine) Top of the Heap starring Matt Leblanc made it to air 7 episodes then was cancelled.
My whole childhood/life, most of the tv shows i watched were "unconventional family" situations. Orphans, cousins, divorced people finding new love, single parents, widows. Brady bunch, step by step, my two dads, sister kate, punky brewster, diffrent strokes, webster, sabrina the teenage witch, sister sister, full house, major dad, bubba on mama's family, fresh prince, pam and olivia on the cosby show, luke on growing pains, one day at a time, smart guy, me and the boys, some of the ghostwriter kids, thea, the sinbad show, curly sue, life with mikey...sorta...ish. and countless others. I loved growing up with the message that what makes a family isn't always blood relation.
TK Carter was wonderful in the 80’s. He tried so hard. He ended up playing second rate characters. I don’t remember that episode. NBC wanted Sheryl Lee Ralph as Sondra. Marla Gibbs fought for Jackee and won! Oh I forgot Bill Maher was an actor! I remember him from Newhart as well. Chips had another one with Jayne Kennedy and a female partner. It was bad as well.
I don't remember Maher visiting the Vermont Inn? I do remember his part in the serio-comedy movie DC Cab (with Mr T). TK Carter looked like he was on the verge of being a legit tv star (maybe movies). When he had the part in The Thing (1982) it looked like he may be onto something, but, even that really did not give him much to do. He had the boombox, roller skates, and eventually, looked scared because he knew they were in deep do-do because of the alien -- who's been changed -- blood test. Oh, just remembered TK was in one of the Goldie Hawn-Chevy Chase comedies: Seems Like Old Times.
Is there anything more 80s TV than the over the back shot of someone opening a door to reveal a guest in a sitcom? Nobody ever asked who it was or looked through a peep hole. It was always “Oh let me open the door it must be Plot Complications!”
I LOVE your channel so much 😍 You remember much of what has exited my mind long ago (or simply lives deep down under in a land far, far away) so it’s super cool to be able to revisit my childhood (born in 77!) in a way I *_NEVER_* would have dreamed would’ve been possible, even when I was (say) 15! Happy new year, Natalie 🎉🥳🎊 ETA: makes me respect Chappelle even more than I already have and do. Loved 227 and “jackee” but def didn’t remember Living Dolls so I’ll be questioning my older & younger sisters asap!
As you mentioned about Angela Landsbury having some "light" workload or episodes off. In particular recall Wayne Rogers (MASH's Trapper John),& Jerry Orbach (Dirty Dancing & Law & Order's Dt Lenny Briscoe),both filled in as main protagonist for a few episodes each.
Nice job! I also remember an episode of Facts of Life that had a backdoor pilot episode. It was about some boys military academy near Eastland that Jo's delinquent friend from the hood attended. I vaguely remember that it was about them getting ready for a mixer with Eastland and he desperately wanted to dance with Blair (didn't we all? lol) but he was a working class kid like Jo. It was so clunky and you could tell they were really trying to sell the idea because there were male analogues to the Facts cast.
As a little kid Force 7 episode was friggin awesome it was at the height in ninja craze for boys like me. As a little kid LAPD ninjas fighting ninja terrorist made sense to me... then I saw it as an adult and I cringed so hard. 🤣
I remember Living Dolls. I never got a chance to see it. And how dare you refer to MacGyver as implausible? I believed in Lassie. Disbelief thoroughly suspended.
Omg... "Force Seven" -- so Hunter is a ninja with an eyepatch (ninja pirate?) who has to defeat Gimli with the help of a racist puppeteer? Yeah, bring it on... 😂
Great shows with many I missed. For a part 2, please note Married With Children had a couple back door pilots - one went to air, one didn't. As well, a favourite spin off as a kid no one remembers, ENOS from Dukes of Hazzard got his own show as a lawman in the big city! Most do not recall that one.
i only "spotted" 2 of them but i just started season 10... yes i know, i late "to the party"... im actually in the middle of watching Flashdance for the 1st time... better late then never!
@@mysocalledgenxlife Actually Married With Children had yet a fourth spinoff with No Ma'am but it never went into production! It would have focused on Al's friends Bob Rooney, Officer Carl, Griff and the rest of his buddies. Plus the dymanics of such a show wouldn't have worked back then? ⚧👕🤔🤯
Emergency! from 1975 tried to spin off 405-WILD, essentially following two animal-control guys instead of two paramedics, and a grumpy, super-duper vet instead of a grumpy super-duper people-doctor.
38 seconds is all it took for me to subscribe. Don't hate me if it takes another 10secs to hit the like button. PS. Your smile looks more comfortable and confident now. 8:58 HOLD UP! 14:48 Too Many Cooks vibes.
I worked for Jamie Luner from " Just the 10 of Us " when she and Soleil Moon Frye and Mark Paul Gosselaar were making the movie " Miracle of St. Tammany " they hung out in the Pub I was bouncer for and I was a extra so the studio hired me for their personal security and that started my new career as I went to work for Millennium Studio's in Louisiana and provide security for the sets and the celebrities.
Fenster Hall probably was considered like a similar spinoff the Facts of Life, which had a large cast of girls at first, but then reduced to just four. This is usually the case because too many characters divide viewer interest and lead to weak plot lines as well as poor character development and viewer indifference You can even see this in Saved by the Bell, when it was Goodmorning Mrs. Bliss, as well as Boy Meets World where the cast was trimmed down to just a few main characters rather than the whole class.
Hello Natalie. I love this channel. I wanted to add that the Incredible Hulk actually had three spinoff films-Death of the Incredible Hulk was the last, but did not include a marvel character co-star.
After all these years I'm still asking "who was Bliss Colby?" and why did she matter compared to Charlton Heston & Barbara Stanwyk. Today in pop culture 99% of the world still has no clue why Bliss Colby existed in the first place.
Charlie's Angels had a failed back door pilot! I don't remember what it was called, but in the episode, the Angels teamed up with three male private detectives who are all presented as being rugged and hunky handsome the three dudes had a mysterious female mentor, the same way that the Angels had Charlie as their backer, and it was clear they were trying to do a backdoor pilot, but I never heard of anything ever happening with regards to this.
Found it! in 1980, Charlie's Angels aired in episode titled Toni's boys that was intended to be a backdoor pilot for a new show by that same name starring three handsome men as private detectives rather than the three beautiful women of Charlie's Angels, the idea being to replicate the formula of Charlie's Angels but with a female audience in mind rather than the male audience that Charlie's Angels was geared to
I had such a huge crush on TC. And then I grew up, found Newsies, and while looking up Gabriel Damon's (Spot) body of work, I discovered he was the geeky kid with glasses in he Fenster Hall episode, and it brought back so many memories.
I recently saw the ninja episode of CHIPS on the Get channel. I had gotten home from work and fell asleep during the beginning of the CHIPS episode and thought I had accidentally changed the channel! I religiously watched CHIPS as a kid and do not remember this. I probably was one of the many who had lost interest at this point.
Out of all the backdoor pilots you talk about, Force Seven is my favorite. I think it's still on TH-cam. It was so batshit insane and racist, I couldn't stop laughing at this trainwreck.
I remember when Webster tried it with Joe Namath and some kids and Indians pretty sure that Cosby Show episode with Tony Orlando at the community center was an attempt at well. The whole episode pretty much focused on Tony's character.
I’m wondering if that Brady spin-off was pitched as a stand-alone and the creators were forced to blanket it under the Brady umbrella cause that would’ve made a pretty dope family drama series.
_Cheers_ also had the short-lived spinoff _The Tortellis_. This featured Carla's ex-husband Nick Tortelli on his own show. It lasted 13 episodes. This was in 1987. Dan Hedaya played Nick. Nick was married to Loretta, who was played by Jean Kasem (wife of Casey Kasem). Why did this fail? Nick wasn't a likeable character. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tortellis
Chips had another back door pilot/spinoff in season 5, if you can believe it. Episode 12, 'Mitchell and Woods' was supposed to begin the adventures of two female motor officers, not in the CHP for some reason, but in fictional Ocean City, which looks an awful lot like Venice Beach. Not only that, we find out in the first couple of minutes of the episode that the 2 female motorcycle cops will be promoted to detectives. After the introduction of the 2 officers never before seen on Chips, the opening credits roll to the familiar Chips theme song. After that, the background music is different from a regular Chips episode but it all goes downhill from there. It scores the lowest rating for an episode of Chips, except for the other back-door pilot mentioned in this video, 'Force Seven'. Season 5 has some of the lowest rated episodes of the series, including those from the Jon-less season 6. One of the issues of season 6 was the off-screen antics of Tom Reilly, Officer Bobby Nelson, who replaced Larry Wilcox's Jon Baker. Reilly was caught driving under the influence (Quaaludes) and shouting at officers that he was Bobby Nelson on Chips. While he was not fired from the show, his character was relegated to the B-String while his on-screen brother Bruce Nelson took over as Ponch's partner.
When I see who you refer to as 'Mob Boss', I see the Professor from 'Sliders'. Especially when it's played by a Welsh actor also known for appearances in Indiana Jones movies. Great bookending him at the end too.
Holy Cr@p! I remember watching that Chips Ninja fiasco when I was 10 or so. With the Ninja craze of the early 80 (which itself was a "spinoff" of the Kung Fu/Karate craze of the 60s and 70s) 10 year old me was all in. :) Watching the clips now "shutter" not so much. I remember most of the stuff from the 80s and 90s entries. I was a little too young to remember the 70s ones. Did we really watch that much TV back then? I guess with no internet we had to do something to pass the evenings on school nights. I hope the oral surgery went well. I have had my fair share of it myself so I totally get talking funny for a bit afterwards. Great video- thanks for making it.
@@Hp411hp You mean Heather O'Rourke she had a starring role on the sitcom Happy Days in 1982-83 and has appeared in many other tv shows before her death such as Webster, Chips, Matt Houston, Our House, Around the Bend, The New Leave It To Beaver and Rocky Road. 👱♀🕵📺👻
Even as a little kid (9-10 years old) I thought the music that ended each "The Incredible Hulk" episode was the saddest, loneliest music in any TV show. I always felt so sad for David Banner as he always walked away alone at the end of every episode.
@ericwandless7966 Same here I thought he would finally find a cure for turning into The Hulk but once again someone or something would need help or local bullies would get in the way
🧱Natalie, NBC🦚yes not ABC chose not to air the Greatest American Heroine🦸pilot in 1986. Instead it was added to the syndication package and later included with the complete series on DVD as well as the last couple episodes that weren't broadcast on ABC. 🤗 📺📼👍
CHiPs had two backdoor pilot spinoffs. That FORCE SEVEN show, and the other was about two female Bay Area Police Officers, Jayne Kennedy and Melody Anderson
I'm kind of sad that Knight Rider's failed spinoff wasn't on here: Jumper Boy and the Cougar. Okay, I'm pretty sure that's not what they were gonna call it, but it introduced this agent for a vague government agency who's schtick was that he was big-time into fitness and he could jump pretty high and he met an attractive, older widow trying to track down her husband's killer.
I love your ideas about auto calibration. As well as other things. I'm using the Nvidia Shield TV, just to get the AI upscale technology. I'm a huge advocate of having those kinds of technologies built in to our screens to make the process of improving picture quality easier.
I was going to say "Radar" being a spin off of "MASH" or "After Mash". However, I remembered that it was a stand-alone pilot, not part of either series.
Can you believe there was 7 spin-offs derived from “All in the Family”. “Maude” (72’-78’) “Good Times”(74’-79’) “The Jeffersons” (75’-85’) “Archie Bunker’s Place” (79’-83’) “Checking In” 1981 “Gloria” (82’-83’) “704 Hauser” 1994 To me, All in the Family is easily top 2 shows of all time & Archie Bunker one of the greatest television characters ever to grace the screen.
We missed out on 80s ninjas! Not gonna lie, probably would have eaten that up no matter how terrible it was. But then I loved Thor and Daredevil from the Hulk movies, so there ya go 🤣. Great vid, thanks for sharing.
I actually remember a couple of these! Definitely duds. On another note, my older brother had the ship wallpaper that was in Kelly’s Kids! It went so well with the dark brown paneling on the other wall 😂
x 29:44 In elementary school, I did some odd jobs for a woman who had a dog named Frog Dog. o She had a mini golf course in her backyard called The Funky Monkey. x I wrote down those tv shows on my watchlist.
Judge Wilbur from "My Two Dads" was a character from "Night Court". Also played by Florence Stanley. Another back door pilot that became a show was the "Golden Girls" episode "Empty Nest". I believe it was the season 2 finally. The backdoor pilot episode was changed a lot before they made the show a series. Highlander the series season 6 was all backdoor pilots and they all failed. They were looking to find a lead for a new series and wanted a female. They ended up just going with the Amanda character from the series played by Elizabeth Gracen. The new series Highlander: The Raven lasted 1 season but did do 22 episodes.
“Just the ten of us” was my favorite spin off!
Same! I almost mentioned it in the opening, but I thought it was too under the radar.
I don't think I even knew it was a spinoff but I loved it!
It was a spinoff of Growing Pains 😊
I’m so glad other people liked it too! It was a little under the radar but the Dad was so funny! And Jamie Lunar from Melrose Place and Heather Langercamp from Nightmare on Elm Street were in it?💕
It was good
My favorite was Soap with it's spin-off Benson.
Same!! Benson's sarcastic wit is perfect 😂
I was in the fifth grade watching Soap. It was hilarious and entertaining.
Melrose Place was a spin off of Beverly Hills 90210 and Model's Inc was a spin off of Melrose Place. Model's Inc. didn't last but one season. Those were the days when I only had air channels in my room so I watched everything on the Fox channel. lmao
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I liked Models’s Inc. Of course, not as much as 90210 and Melrose…. But I thought it was decent. 🥰
I really liked Melrose place.
@@stacykeller3812 I recently re-watched BH 90210 series and I had a good ol time. When the show was running, I only watched season 3 through 5, so a lot of it was brand new to me. I gotta re-watch Melrose Place.
@@ashlenriopelle274 I watched the first 2 seasons of Melrose Place before I stopped following it. I was 10-11 year-old watching those shows, so once I got a little older, other things started occupying my time and I never finished the series. Hopefully, it will be available soon for streaming.
Who’s the Boss makes me feel a little old. A few months ago I was in the hospital and I was watching Who’s the Boss reruns on TV; and the nurse had never heard of the show. 😶
Ouch, to the young nurse response. But, appropriate to have old age pain while in the hospital. sorry, that is a stretch. Hopefully not a painful stretch; and, damn I did it again.😗😏
Well it's celebrated its 40th anniversary this year!😂
@@BruceWalther-s2l I’m 43. But to be fair, when I was a kid, I thought 25 was old.
@@COMPFUNK2 Mona from Who's The Boss also had a failed backdoor pilot two part episode! Something to do with a Hotel. Not to mention a young Fran Drescher also had a backdoor pilot episode on Who's The Boss?🏨📺📼🙋♀
@ She did briefly mention the Mona spinoff.
I feel like Joey deserved a spot on this list even though it got a season on TV. Aside from that, the original back door pilot for Empty Nest, featuring Rita Moreno, also deserved a mention. The explanation from Moreno about how problematic the episode was is fascinating
Empty nest had a spin off also called nurses.
Are we sure the Rita Moreno spin-off wasn't originally The Golden Girls?
Joey had 2 seasons.
@@kcbh24 it was an episode of the Golden Girls but it was intended to be a back door pilot for a spin-off about a married couple whose children had grown up and left home, with Moreno as the star. It was very problematic because of a bad script that Susan Harris didn’t have an opportunity to do proper rewrites on and thus didn’t get picked up - but they kept the name and the house and tried again with obviously a different cast and set up and that one was successful
@@LennyT007 more like a season and a half with, if I recall correctly, some significant retooling in the second season to try to reverse the major ratings decline it saw in the first season. Even one of the producers of Friends (who also worked on Joey) said the network and other producers on Joey wouldn’t listen when he tried to say they were destroying everything that made the character likable on Friends. Also, given how heavily NBC promoted Joey at first, it became a pretty high profile flop for the network
And lets not forget Joanie Loves Chachi. Erin Moran I understand didn’t want to leave Happy Days but did the show anyways. The Bill Mahar one had me 😂😂😂.😊
Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, & Mork and Mindy all had different degrees of separation.
@@kshinokevin it’s wild how blessed we were to get full 30 and 60 minutes of tv back then!
Bill maher with a mullet is hilarious 😂
Whoa. DID. NOT. Know there was a spin-off to Greatest American Hero.😮
Same! Greatest American Hero was my favorite!
It’s on the first season DVD set if you want to check it out.
Yeah, I guess I missed this because I was stationed in Germany in the late 80's
Me neither, although I know a reboot was being planned a while back, but it was shelved.
Neither did I 'til today in Jan. 2025,
any time there is a popular side character that is comic relief and they give them a show it almost never works because what makes them work is they are used sparingly
also that comic relief has great chemistry with THAT cast. you take that character (ie. joey from friends or pam from martin) and expect the same chemistry with a new group.
All In The Family amazingly had 5 spin-offs. The Jeffersons, Maude, Archie Bunker's Place, Gloria, and 704 Hauser. Good Times was a spin-off of Maude and Checking In was a spin-off of The Jeffersons so they are connected too.
happy days (which is a spin off itself) had six, if you count the cartoon.
mork & mindy
laverne & shirley
blanksy's Beauties
joanie loves chachi
out of the blue
fonz & the happy days gang.
I thought Archie Bunker spin-off was the Jeffersons I thought. Which would make it the grand dad of those others.
I remember Gloria it didn’t last very long. She divorced Michael and was working in a vet clinic. I don’t know why I remember that.
@@flobrez2470 In Gloria, the Vet doctor was played by Burgess Meredith (aka the Penguin from the 1960's Batman series). As I recall Gloria was cancelled due to low ratings and the fact that Burgess Meredith had become quite ill.
@@stingrey1571don’t forget “Carmine”
Actress Leah Remini was in other failed tv shows such as The Man In The Family, First Time Out and Fired Up. Not to mention recurring and guest appearances on Cheers, Friends, Evening Shade, Home Improvement, The Commish, Diagnosis Murder, Renegade, Saved By The Bell, The Hogan Family and Blossom. She is best known for her role Carrie on King Of Queens. 🙋♀📺💃🙏
She was a TV queen in the 90s. I’ve been thinking about doing a video about her and all of those appearances.
@@mysocalledgenxlife She was working hard. It was really nice when she finally got her own series, and her series did well.
She was Carla's daughter on _Cheers_. She was Taylor's girl friend on _Evening Shade_.
@ChrisBakerauthor After 'King of Queens', Leah Remini also had a supporting role as Nicky, Stuart's sister on 'The Exes'.
More police need ninja task forces lol
They should have tried hooking up Huggy Bear with Angel Martin from the Rockford Files. 😂😂
6-year old me in 1988 got in trouble the night "The Incredible Hulk Returns" premiered and I got sent to bed early. Luckily my mom knew how badly I wanted to see that movie and she ended up letting me watch the movie. I have to watch those movies again, it's been DECADES.
Links in the description! 😊
@@mysocalledgenxlife Natalie you forgot to talk about the 80's retool attempt at Kelly's Kids rebranded as "Together We Stand" which lasted 19 episodes! This incarnation of the show starred Elliot Gould, Dee Wallace Stone and Data from The Goonies. 🙋📺📼🕵
@@SuperMarioBrosIIII will cover crazy spinoff stories like that in a future video. That one is pretty crazy!
I loved that one too! I was just starting to get into comic books, but even I knew they missed the mark with Thor. It was still fun though.
Video topic request idea for Natalie: memorable GenX era commercials
Examples: 1984 Apple, WHERE’S THE BEEF
Love it. Going on the idea board!
@@mysocalledgenxlife Also the anti-drug PSA.."I learned it from watching YOU!!!"
@@mysocalledgenxlifeYou ever read Chuck Klosterman?
"Don't hate me because I'm beautiful"
“ this is your brain on drugs- any questions?”
Holy Mandela effect.....I swear i freaking remember Jackee as it's own show! I probably just renamed 227 in my mind.
I completely remember it too .I checked IMDb and it shows the Jackee show has a 23 minute TV movie so there must have been a pilot episode that actually aired and not just a backdoor pilot
I think you did GREAT! I just absolutely LOVE your channel!!! It always brings back to a (in my opinion) happier time in the world. I miss it so much and I would do almost anything to go back again!
Wow, so many "before they were stars". I totally remember that Home Improvement episode but didn't know Dave and Jim back then. Never heard of Buddies though. I also always wondered what was up with that "Kelly's Kids" episode of Brady Bunch. I always thought it was just because they ran out of ideas lol but now I get it. And I definitely remember watching Living Dolls. I watched all the other regular shows too, but never knew about the attempted spin-offs except for maybe Jackee. This was so fun, thanks!
@tobesocourtney Did you know that Todd Lookinland who plays Matt is the real- life brother of Mike Lookinland who plays Bobby Brady? Also Sherwood Swartz did retool Kelly's Kids in the 80's rebranding the show and changing the title to Together We Stand starring Elliot Gould, Dee Wallace Stone and Data from The Goonies. Moving away from The Brady's wasnt bad for a show that premiered over a decade after Kelly's Kids. It lasted longer on it's own accord 19 episodes! 🤗📺📼👍
"Huggy Bear and the Turkey" sounds like tv show that would exhist on South Park.
14:58 I LOVED 227!! It was so hilarious. Saaaandra was the best
Sometimes I feel the need to say, “Mary” in that very Sandra growl😅
Gimme A Break had a backdoor spin-off with Ola Ray. Michael Jackson's girlfriend in the Thriller video. Don't forget Dynasty had a spin-off called The Colbys. It starred the great Barbara Stanwyck and the great Charleton Heston. It only lasted 2 seasons.
Older Gen X here. You probably aren't aware of "The New Monkees" 1987 Fox show. Huge flop, Great music, could have been huge like the original Monkees.
I’m actually making a video about shows from the 60s that were rebooted in the 80s! The New Monkees, the New Munsters, Back to Mayberry, etc..! It was a major trend!
Just found your channel and I am really enjoying your content keep it up great work.😊
Thor always loved beer. He also loved to party.
The Brady bunch variety hour and living Dolls were part of the 50 worst spin offs ever in TV guide. I viewed the whole living Dolls series right here on TH-cam. They even brought in Marion Ross you know, Mrs C to try to save it I guess but it was probably already doomed. A very good compilation. I guess you could have also included just the ten of us.
Oh my goodness, that was so painful to watch! 😂 I’m embarrassed for my younger self! 🤣🤣🤣
PLEASE make this a series!
Another thing about Kelly’s Kids is that the character Matt was played by Mike Lookinland‘s brother Todd Lookinland.
I almost mentioned that…but I thought I’d let my comments section take care of it! Thank you 😊
@@mysocalledgenxlifeAnother mention is one of the kids was the actor Benji, who sadly died recently, ending up as the young boy on Alf.
I thought they looked alike!! 🤣
In my opinion,
The lisp is kinda cool.
For some reason, it reminds me of the 80s.
Remember how it seemed like movies and shows gave us the impression, at least, that all dental correction devices were like torturous head gear.
It seemed to be a common character trait to have some type of lisp due to a sadistic dentist; little shop, technically 80s movie.
Nonsequiter:
Speaking of weird impressions that we got as kids, besides high school kids looking like they were in their late 20s:
Remember the brilliant marketing campaign where many characters it seemed walked around eating from giant party sized bags of potato chips (crisps.)
I think Lay's?
As a kid, I thought people just did that.
Going out to the hole in the wall club, grab a snack.
Anyway,
Cool lisp.
It reminds me of Cindy Brady in the early seasons😊
Love the fact that you are not using AI voiceovers for your videos. Some real eye-openers here, especially the CHiPs spin-off. CHiPs was one of my favorites growing up and I will still binge these days.
Natalie have you done a complete breakdown on all the nighttime soaps from the 80s? That would be great to get your take on them 😊
It’s on the 2025 idea board!
Another is Married with Children had 3 backdoor pilots (Enemies, Top of the Heap, Radio Free Tremaine) Top of the Heap starring Matt Leblanc made it to air 7 episodes then was cancelled.
You sound like Holly Hunter right now. Love it
Very similar.
I went to a live taping of Living Dolls and it was funny. But I was 13/14 and maybe not a great judge of shows! haha
Great episode,half these shows I didn't know existed
A cool series could be "the best product placements of the 80s" ... maybe especially ads that cannot happen in movies and on television today.
I love this idea. Going on the board!
@mysocalledgenxlife But you remember them walking around with big bags of potato chips, right? I just think it's so funny now.
Did anyone else notice how low the bunk bed was in Fenster Hall?? Good luck getting onto the bottom bunk!!!
My whole childhood/life, most of the tv shows i watched were "unconventional family" situations. Orphans, cousins, divorced people finding new love, single parents, widows.
Brady bunch, step by step, my two dads, sister kate, punky brewster, diffrent strokes, webster, sabrina the teenage witch, sister sister, full house, major dad, bubba on mama's family, fresh prince, pam and olivia on the cosby show, luke on growing pains, one day at a time, smart guy, me and the boys, some of the ghostwriter kids, thea, the sinbad show, curly sue, life with mikey...sorta...ish. and countless others.
I loved growing up with the message that what makes a family isn't always blood relation.
Fascinating topic for a video, and excellently put together :) Hope you'll make a part 2
TK Carter was wonderful in the 80’s. He tried so hard. He ended up playing second rate characters. I don’t remember that episode.
NBC wanted Sheryl Lee Ralph as Sondra. Marla Gibbs fought for Jackee and won!
Oh I forgot Bill Maher was an actor! I remember him from Newhart as well.
Chips had another one with Jayne Kennedy and a female partner. It was bad as well.
I don't remember Maher visiting the Vermont Inn?
I do remember his part in the serio-comedy movie DC Cab (with Mr T).
TK Carter looked like he was on the verge of being a legit tv star (maybe movies). When he had the part in The Thing (1982) it looked like he may be onto something, but, even that really did not give him much to do. He had the boombox, roller skates, and eventually, looked scared because he knew they were in deep do-do because of the alien -- who's been changed -- blood test.
Oh, just remembered TK was in one of the Goldie Hawn-Chevy Chase comedies: Seems Like Old Times.
TK Carter... "He's My Girl".
Darn, now, I have to find that movie 😂😂😂
Is there anything more 80s TV than the over the back shot of someone opening a door to reveal a guest in a sitcom? Nobody ever asked who it was or looked through a peep hole. It was always “Oh let me open the door it must be Plot Complications!”
I LOVE your channel so much 😍 You remember much of what has exited my mind long ago (or simply lives deep down under in a land far, far away) so it’s super cool to be able to revisit my childhood (born in 77!) in a way I *_NEVER_* would have dreamed would’ve been possible, even when I was (say) 15! Happy new year, Natalie 🎉🥳🎊
ETA: makes me respect Chappelle even more than I already have and do. Loved 227 and “jackee” but def didn’t remember Living Dolls so I’ll be questioning my older & younger sisters asap!
You are the perfect viewer for my channel! 77 babies are extra special 😊. So glad you are enjoying the videos!
@@mysocalledgenxlifewe are!!!! ♥️♥️♥️ I am home 🤗
Good luck with your channel!!
I wish you much success!
As a fellow GenXer, I always appreciate the voices of our generation.
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Enjoyed this so much. Thank you
As you mentioned about Angela Landsbury having some "light" workload or episodes off. In particular recall Wayne Rogers (MASH's Trapper John),& Jerry Orbach (Dirty Dancing & Law & Order's Dt Lenny Briscoe),both filled in as main protagonist for a few episodes each.
Fantastic video! Some I remember, some I don't. Fun hearing the history and the thought behind the ideas...
Nice job! I also remember an episode of Facts of Life that had a backdoor pilot episode. It was about some boys military academy near Eastland that Jo's delinquent friend from the hood attended. I vaguely remember that it was about them getting ready for a mixer with Eastland and he desperately wanted to dance with Blair (didn't we all? lol) but he was a working class kid like Jo. It was so clunky and you could tell they were really trying to sell the idea because there were male analogues to the Facts cast.
As a little kid Force 7 episode was friggin awesome it was at the height in ninja craze for boys like me. As a little kid LAPD ninjas fighting ninja terrorist made sense to me... then I saw it as an adult and I cringed so hard. 🤣
I remember Living Dolls. I never got a chance to see it. And how dare you refer to MacGyver as implausible? I believed in Lassie. Disbelief thoroughly suspended.
Omg... "Force Seven" -- so Hunter is a ninja with an eyepatch (ninja pirate?) who has to defeat Gimli with the help of a racist puppeteer? Yeah, bring it on... 😂
Link in the description! You can rent it on TH-cam for $1.99.
I was 10 when I watched it on 📺 back then. Thought it was the coolest thing ever ! 😂
Great shows with many I missed.
For a part 2, please note Married With Children had a couple back door pilots - one went to air, one didn't.
As well, a favourite spin off as a kid no one remembers, ENOS from Dukes of Hazzard got his own show as a lawman in the big city! Most do not recall that one.
Married with Children had three failed spinoffs:
Top of the Heap
Radio Free Trumaine
Enemies
One of those will be a part of the follow up video! There were so many shows with failed spinoffs, it was hard to narrow it down.
@@mysocalledgenxlife I'm guessing it will be Top of the Heap since it starred pre-Friends Matt LeBlanc.
That’s probably the one I’ll choose. But I’m gonna go over all of them again just to make sure.
i only "spotted" 2 of them but i just started season 10... yes i know, i late "to the party"... im actually in the middle of watching Flashdance for the 1st time... better late then never!
@@mysocalledgenxlife Actually Married With Children had yet a fourth spinoff with No Ma'am but it never went into production! It would have focused on Al's friends Bob Rooney, Officer Carl, Griff and the rest of his buddies. Plus the dymanics of such a show wouldn't have worked back then? ⚧👕🤔🤯
This was an insane list. Thank you for sharing!
Grestvideo! You should consider doing a video on rare and oscure music acts from the 70s 80s and 90s
Thanks Natalie for another great content video!
Emergency! from 1975 tried to spin off 405-WILD, essentially following two animal-control guys instead of two paramedics, and a grumpy, super-duper vet instead of a grumpy super-duper people-doctor.
Just heard clips from your channel on The Bonfire! Legendary status achieved! 🔥🔥🔥 Crackle. Crackle.
Just came across your page. Awesome!!! I had no idea about the Greatest American Heroine.
23:51 so we're just not going to talk about how Bill Maher has so much shoulder hair he's giving "1970s Burt Reynolds"?
38 seconds is all it took for me to subscribe. Don't hate me if it takes another 10secs to hit the like button. PS. Your smile looks more comfortable and confident now.
8:58 HOLD UP!
14:48 Too Many Cooks vibes.
Force Seven was awesome. I thought it was a fever dream. Thank you for reminding me.
I worked for Jamie Luner from " Just the 10 of Us " when she and Soleil Moon Frye and Mark Paul Gosselaar were making the movie " Miracle of St. Tammany " they hung out in the Pub I was bouncer for and I was a extra so the studio hired me for their personal security and that started my new career as I went to work for Millennium Studio's in Louisiana and provide security for the sets and the celebrities.
Fenster Hall probably was considered like a similar spinoff the Facts of Life, which had a large cast of girls at first, but then reduced to just four. This is usually the case because too many characters divide viewer interest and lead to weak plot lines as well as poor character development and viewer indifference You can even see this in Saved by the Bell, when it was Goodmorning Mrs. Bliss, as well as Boy Meets World where the cast was trimmed down to just a few main characters rather than the whole class.
Hello Natalie. I love this channel. I wanted to add that the Incredible Hulk actually had three spinoff films-Death of the Incredible Hulk was the last, but did not include a marvel character co-star.
After all these years I'm still asking "who was Bliss Colby?" and why did she matter compared to Charlton Heston & Barbara Stanwyk. Today in pop culture 99% of the world still has no clue why Bliss Colby existed in the first place.
Charlie's Angels had a failed back door pilot! I don't remember what it was called, but in the episode, the Angels teamed up with three male private detectives who are all presented as being rugged and hunky handsome the three dudes had a mysterious female mentor, the same way that the Angels had Charlie as their backer, and it was clear they were trying to do a backdoor pilot, but I never heard of anything ever happening with regards to this.
Found it! in 1980, Charlie's Angels aired in episode titled Toni's boys that was intended to be a backdoor pilot for a new show by that same name starring three handsome men as private detectives rather than the three beautiful women of Charlie's Angels, the idea being to replicate the formula of Charlie's Angels but with a female audience in mind rather than the male audience that Charlie's Angels was geared to
2:40 so in this universe he is Party Thor
I had such a huge crush on TC. And then I grew up, found Newsies, and while looking up Gabriel Damon's (Spot) body of work, I discovered he was the geeky kid with glasses in he Fenster Hall episode, and it brought back so many memories.
I recently saw the ninja episode of CHIPS on the Get channel. I had gotten home from work and fell asleep during the beginning of the CHIPS episode and thought I had accidentally changed the channel! I religiously watched CHIPS as a kid and do not remember this. I probably was one of the many who had lost interest at this point.
Have you done " Booker" it was spun from 21 Jump street. Though idk if Spin off is the right word as it aired the same time as 21 jump street
Regarding Force 7, I believe the poet R. James said it best..
"Cocaine is a hell of a drug."
Out of all the backdoor pilots you talk about, Force Seven is my favorite. I think it's still on TH-cam. It was so batshit insane and racist, I couldn't stop laughing at this trainwreck.
I remember when Webster tried it with Joe Namath and some kids and Indians pretty sure that Cosby Show episode with Tony Orlando at the community center was an attempt at well. The whole episode pretty much focused on Tony's character.
I’m wondering if that Brady spin-off was pitched as a stand-alone and the creators were forced to blanket it under the Brady umbrella cause that would’ve made a pretty dope family drama series.
_Cheers_ also had the short-lived spinoff _The Tortellis_. This featured Carla's ex-husband Nick Tortelli on his own show. It lasted 13 episodes. This was in 1987. Dan Hedaya played Nick. Nick was married to Loretta, who was played by Jean Kasem (wife of Casey Kasem).
Why did this fail? Nick wasn't a likeable character.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tortellis
Chips had another back door pilot/spinoff in season 5, if you can believe it. Episode 12, 'Mitchell and Woods' was supposed to begin the adventures of two female motor officers, not in the CHP for some reason, but in fictional Ocean City, which looks an awful lot like Venice Beach. Not only that, we find out in the first couple of minutes of the episode that the 2 female motorcycle cops will be promoted to detectives. After the introduction of the 2 officers never before seen on Chips, the opening credits roll to the familiar Chips theme song. After that, the background music is different from a regular Chips episode but it all goes downhill from there. It scores the lowest rating for an episode of Chips, except for the other back-door pilot mentioned in this video, 'Force Seven'.
Season 5 has some of the lowest rated episodes of the series, including those from the Jon-less season 6. One of the issues of season 6 was the off-screen antics of Tom Reilly, Officer Bobby Nelson, who replaced Larry Wilcox's Jon Baker. Reilly was caught driving under the influence (Quaaludes) and shouting at officers that he was Bobby Nelson on Chips. While he was not fired from the show, his character was relegated to the B-String while his on-screen brother Bruce Nelson took over as Ponch's partner.
All in the family had 6 spin offs. Maude, The Jeffersons, Good Times, Archie Bunkers place, Gloria, & 704 Hauser. The last 2 went nowhere.
When I see who you refer to as 'Mob Boss', I see the Professor from 'Sliders'. Especially when it's played by a Welsh actor also known for appearances in Indiana Jones movies. Great bookending him at the end too.
33:48 wait was the inspiration for Franklin on arrested development
"The Greatest American Heroine" sounds like it could be a whole other type of show in modern times...
Holy Cr@p! I remember watching that Chips Ninja fiasco when I was 10 or so. With the Ninja craze of the early 80 (which itself was a "spinoff" of the Kung Fu/Karate craze of the 60s and 70s) 10 year old me was all in. :)
Watching the clips now "shutter" not so much. I remember most of the stuff from the 80s and 90s entries. I was a little too young to remember the 70s ones. Did we really watch that much TV back then? I guess with no internet we had to do something to pass the evenings on school nights.
I hope the oral surgery went well. I have had my fair share of it myself so I totally get talking funny for a bit afterwards.
Great video- thanks for making it.
I remember the worst scene was Poltergeist, 3, I think? With the kid's braces mutating.
It was Poltergeist 2, not 3. Heather O’Roarke was the only returning cast member for number 3.
@@Hp411hp You mean Heather O'Rourke she had a starring role on the sitcom Happy Days in 1982-83 and has appeared in many other tv shows before her death such as Webster, Chips, Matt Houston, Our House, Around the Bend, The New Leave It To Beaver and Rocky Road. 👱♀🕵📺👻
@Hp411hp I was younger. I only remembered the braces.
Eight years old is probably too young to see any Poltergeist movie.
The Incredible Hulk TV Show was my favorite show
Even as a little kid (9-10 years old) I thought the music that ended each "The Incredible Hulk" episode was the saddest, loneliest music in any TV show. I always felt so sad for David Banner as he always walked away alone at the end of every episode.
@ericwandless7966 Same here I thought he would finally find a cure for turning into The Hulk but once again someone or something would need help or local bullies would get in the way
🧱Natalie, NBC🦚yes not ABC chose not to air the Greatest American Heroine🦸pilot in 1986. Instead it was added to the syndication package and later included with the complete series on DVD as well as the last couple episodes that weren't broadcast on ABC. 🤗 📺📼👍
Finster Hall certainly was no Annie 😊 It's the hard knock life ...
CHiPs had two backdoor pilot spinoffs. That FORCE SEVEN show, and the other was about two female Bay Area Police Officers, Jayne Kennedy and Melody Anderson
I'm kind of sad that Knight Rider's failed spinoff wasn't on here: Jumper Boy and the Cougar.
Okay, I'm pretty sure that's not what they were gonna call it, but it introduced this agent for a vague government agency who's schtick was that he was big-time into fitness and he could jump pretty high and he met an attractive, older widow trying to track down her husband's killer.
There will be a follow up video! 😊 I had to cut so many good ones. This video could have been three hours long!
Never knew American greatest hero had a spin off..good vid brought some good memories
I love your ideas about auto calibration. As well as other things. I'm using the Nvidia Shield TV, just to get the AI upscale technology. I'm a huge advocate of having those kinds of technologies built in to our screens to make the process of improving picture quality easier.
I was going to say "Radar" being a spin off of "MASH" or "After Mash". However, I remembered that it was a stand-alone pilot, not part of either series.
That Bull Dog needs it's own show 😂
I love the Mona back door of Who’s The Boss!
Can you believe there was 7 spin-offs derived from “All in the Family”. “Maude” (72’-78’)
“Good Times”(74’-79’)
“The Jeffersons” (75’-85’)
“Archie Bunker’s Place” (79’-83’)
“Checking In” 1981
“Gloria” (82’-83’)
“704 Hauser” 1994
To me, All in the Family is easily top 2 shows of all time & Archie Bunker one of the greatest television characters ever to grace the screen.
We missed out on 80s ninjas! Not gonna lie, probably would have eaten that up no matter how terrible it was. But then I loved Thor and Daredevil from the Hulk movies, so there ya go 🤣. Great vid, thanks for sharing.
Congratulations on a successful surgery. Well done! Looks amazing.
11:00 so here's the real question- do you prefer your albums on vinyl, or turkette?
I actually remember a couple of these! Definitely duds. On another note, my older brother had the ship wallpaper that was in Kelly’s Kids! It went so well with the dark brown paneling on the other wall 😂
x 29:44 In elementary school, I did some odd jobs for a woman who had a dog named Frog Dog.
o She had a mini golf course in her backyard called The Funky Monkey.
x I wrote down those tv shows on my watchlist.
Force Seven sounds like some exec producers spoiled kid just graduated uni, felt his idea for a new series was brilliant and insisted it be made
Judge Wilbur from "My Two Dads" was a character from "Night Court". Also played by Florence Stanley.
Another back door pilot that became a show was the "Golden Girls" episode "Empty Nest". I believe it was the season 2 finally. The backdoor pilot episode was changed a lot before they made the show a series.
Highlander the series season 6 was all backdoor pilots and they all failed. They were looking to find a lead for a new series and wanted a female. They ended up just going with the Amanda character from the series played by Elizabeth Gracen. The new series Highlander: The Raven lasted 1 season but did do 22 episodes.
I loved Empty Nest, I thought Kristy McNichol was so cool! lol