The San Diego 'Convadium': It's Not a Thing! (HBO)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2016
- San Diegans are about to vote whether to spend $1.15 billion on a new Chargers 'Convadium'. Bill and special guest SD native son Tony Hawk break down what you should know before going to the polls.
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"In my 82 years of being a professional skateboarder" 😂😂😂
FANTASTIC. I am a native San Diegan, Downtown Resident, and Chargers Fan. I am voting NO on Measure C
thank you! all the the props are basically raising taxes on everything to schools, parks, and idiots
Hahah awkwardly Tony Hawk from Carlsbad cant even vote for the Convadium.
THIS. Brilliant. Fucking brilliant.
"Most people who attend games are local residents"
you obviously never been to a charger game...
Excellent argument against the "convadium." Please, share this with all San Diego voters
Vote yes on C!
I will be joining you.
They're ignoring the fact that businesses rely on hotels. A Charger tax will increase the cost of doing business in San Diego. Our medical and tech industries operate every day of the year and they're are a lot more important than football. They're an asset to our city, nation and economy.
A Charger tax will only increase the incentive for businesses to move out of San Diego.
They could renovate Qualcomm for $250 million like USC is doing with the LA Coliseum. The Chargers can afford it with the TV money they're bringing in. It's a good location with an effective public transit system to get people there. Bad stadium.
T. Hawk doesn't live in San Diego, he can't vote on Measure C.
But I did and voted against it Why? I will quote Ron Burgundy "Go Fuck yourself San Diego"
Gayyyy
Take the current stadium. Draw a line perpendicular to the 50 yard line. Tear down the stadium on one side of the line. Build new seating that is closer to the field. Save a lot money.
it's sad that most people don't seem to realize that this "tax" (which is tiny and will keep absolutely no one from ever visiting San Diego) is only on tourists staying in hotels. Seattle, Indianapolis and Houston paid for their stadiums the same way and no one seems to give a shit......or even mention it.
I agree with you in part. The hotel tax increase is coming and will not drastically affect the amount of tourists coming to San Diego. What I don't agree on is the notion that an increase in the hotel tax isn't a tax increase on San Diego citizens. You have to consider the opportunity cost. We can only raise the hotel tax to a certain level before it does become detrimental. If we use it build a stadium, it blocks the opportunity to use the tax's revenue for other civic needs, such as basic infrastructure. Thus, next time the city needs increased revenue the tax will be on San Diego citizens.
Ok Bill. You would be cool with the Patriots moving in exchange for Nick Cannon?
yes on c
He just want them to move to him in LA ;)
A little addition is that the college team San Diego State also use the current stadium for their games. This does not change the fact that a stadium is always in a economical way.
Congrats guys you actually did it!
at what cost
@@azurited2259 let’s see:
No college football bowl games at adequate facilities
Beyoncé completely ignoring San Diego because there is no adequate stadium to host her events.
Taylor Swift completely ignoring San Diego because there is no adequate stadium to host her events.
Harry Styles completely ignoring San Diego because there is no adequate stadium to host her events.
Basically, every MEGA musician ignoring San Diego in favor of LA, San Francisco, Vegas, Seattle, Phoenix, etc.
No college football national championship games
No World Cup Matches
And potentially every other of the original four big leagues (sans MLB) not wanting to touch San Diego with a 100 foot pool because they told the NFL to pound sand.
So, yeah……..
Petco Park is the only reason I go to San Diego once a year. I'm not sure if NFL games do the same job of drawing in out of towners given the small number of games each year and the fact that going to an NFL game already costs a ton without the gas/travel expenses.
Classic tony :D
That's one reason why Baltimore would rather renovate a 54 year Royal Farms Arena which only has indoor soccer and concerts, which is "Lipstick on a pig" rather than build a new replacement which could attract hockey and additional events
fuck yeah birdman
I would like to disown Cannons sorry add too
5:00 did he just say 82 years of being a professional skateboarder? WTF lol
let the Chargers pay for the stadium in Los Angeles I'll still support them but NO TAX MONEY
It's not coming out of the locals pockets, it will be taxes from the hotel tax. SD has one of the lowest races on their hotels. I'm sure someone planning to visits sd and it's attractions won't be turned away with a few bucks more in taxes , especially when the raise in hotel tax will put it on par with all other cities across the nation and those cities still have nothing on sd attractions
The one thing not one of these videos points out is who was actually going to pay for this shit...not visiting football fans, but SDCC...you want to see the actual business driver in SD leave when their attendees are actually the ones on the hook for this crap, then by all means you should have voted for this. 11 games that struggle to sell 30K tickets, and half of those are visiting, versus a 5-day event that draws the population of Nashville. Spanos can shove it an pay rent for the next 20yrs in LA.
the SUPER BOWLS hosted by the City brought in $500 MILLION per....and San Diego USED to have them on average every & years , ALL that is gone and so are the 200,000 NFL tourists that USED to come to SD to watch their teams play. NO San Diegan would have EVER spent a penny in Taxes if they didnt
stay in a Hotel in San Diego. Thats what so many people were either too emotional or too
stupid to realize. Im not defending Spanos, but you are making an totally emotional argument
and not a Financial one. Comic Con will leave next
Donald Trump voice... "We need to build a convadium!"
it's going to be YUUUUUGE!
"Things that aren't real, aren't worth a billion dollars!" ...yea tell that to the Catholic Church lol
Tony Hawk caught that skateboard pretty well. Think he can catch a touchdown?
Who or what is GLJ Creative Studios and why should we listen to it? Rather than responding to the arguments made here, it engages in ad hominem attacks, attempting to lower any discussion to "'fraid not, 'fraid so" level.
Raiders fan drive down, watch the game then go home. They don't stay over night!
No on C!
I sorry do you live in San Diego? No, that's what I thought, what do you know about this city?
common sense
Comic-con????? Have you talked to any vendor's, hotel or bar managers lately??.. SD is on notice for hiking up prices during comic-con and they are threatening to leave SD in the dust if they don't fix their shit.. And it seems like they wont fix anything..
This video has convinced me to vote Yes. Cringe worthy stuff amigos
100% correct! The best thing about SD is Mexico!
Well they got there wish and the chargers are gone.
This video is full of lies and misinformation. 10 nfl games and 4 concerts the only events in the stadium last year, really!? They forgot about every Aztec football game, the poinsettia and holiday bowls which draw huge crowds. We even have a fucking parade for the bowl games! Not to mention the copa America soccer games that were held there. Whoever made this didn't do there research.
durango9595 yeah but if you think the Chargers will let those teams/shows play at their new venue, you're delusional. maybe if the Chargers won a super bowl then this would be different, but they don't deserve one. just like the Padres. I'm a fan of both teams but let's be realistic, why doesn't Spanos pay just like the LA Rams owner?
Well it's convenient that the video left out the fact Spanos is paying 2/3 ($650 million) towards the stadium project. The whole point is for this stadium to have additional uses to attract better quality large events other than just Chargers games. It's amazing Qualcomm has been able to pull off as many events as it has in the condition it's in. It's not even nice enough to fill with dirt for the monster trucks and supercross that moved to the ballpark... There's nothing saying this stadium is exclusively for the Chargers and will be empty the rest of the year. That's ridiculous! Just look at the Arizona Cardinals stadium, since it opened in 2008 they've already had 2 Super Bowls, 2 bcs championship games, a bcs playoff and ncaa march madness games. Where would you rather hold a major event, a 100 degree sandbox in the suburbs or in the middle of downtown on the San Diego bay?
So I had two issues with this.
1. They listed Mexico as an asset. Lol poor ass country.
2. They brought DJT in this and it has nothing to do with presidential candidates or rich people in general.
Other than that, I agree.
These comments are bizarre, even by youtube standards. What possible reason would Bill Simmons or Tony Hawk have to WANT San Diego taxpayers to get screwed? Haven't you seen enough wealthy owners use the threat of leaving a city to get regular people to pay for their shiny new toy? This is a game, and the billionaires are winning.
It a freeking hotel tax. I don't plan on staying in a hotel in San Diego. And if I do I pay the extra 5 or 10 bucks. YES ON C!!
Except if you watched the video, you'd see that literally the exact same thing happened with Petco, the hotel tax couldn't cover the cost, and taxpayers ended up on the hook for the rest. That is exactly what will happen again. There's no reason to think it won't.
The TOT tax is currently one of the city's four major revenue streams. Why should we dedicate the funds created by an increase in this tax to the Spanos family? This is our money and it should be used to benefit the city as a whole not individual business interests. Furthermore, publicly funded stadiums are a terrible investment as the economic impact of such projects is negligible. Please google "economics of publicly funded sports stadiums." The results include numerous studies which all conclude it to be a terrible use of public funds.
How selfish. You do know that local business use hotel auditoriums for business meetings. Local Schools for Proms. Local residents for Weddings and Anniversaries. That comes out to more than 5 or 10 bucks.
Plus I love how one moment you are touting some miracle free money that tourists pay for and San Diego won't. Then the next moment you say, but if I do I do not care it is only this much. So which is it? not going to cost or going to cost?
A tax is a tax. That is revenue for the city that can be used for things that actually matter. Things like our infrastructure, police and firefighters, our pension troubles, our Homeless. You want to tie up that revenue for the next 30+ years on a stadium that will be obsolete in 20 years.
Over 100 million ppl have been through gates at petco shinny new toy for who again? Good god the city raked in billions on property taxes from the development of the area. Prop c says clean as day chargers pay overruns.
Won't comic con leave in a couple of years? The convadium could help lmao. Have an open mind.
Who here is watching this realizing that this didn't just cost San Diego the Chargers, but also Taylor Swift, Beyonce, the College Football National Championship, the Super Bowl, the Holiday Bowl being played in a proper college football stadium, BTS, Blackpink, the World Cup, and an untold number of great entertainment and athletic events?
All of which would have had international visitors come in and PAY the hotel tax that people didn't want to go up?
Fact: With the current extremely dated Qualcomm Stadium, we will never get a Super Bowl, no major event want to come within a mile of that piece of crap concrete slab. Supercross and Monster Jam have already left the stadium to a much smaller Petco park. We are stuck with the GIANT USED CAR TENT SALE! Eventually Qualcomm will host no events period and we will be paying just to keep it from falling apart which we already do.
Fact: With a new stadium we are guaranteed a Super Bowl if not multiple ones and one Super Bowl can boost local economy by 200-700 million. The increased space could even appeal to a World Series being held in our fine city of San Diego. Comic Con is itching to grow and expand but San Diego has yet to expand the Convention Center, Comic Con is without a doubt the biggest event held there but they want more space. The new stadium would offer more than enough space for Comic Con and guarantee their stay. Not to mention how many more larger events could be held with the huge increase in space the stadium will create. Beyond Convention Center, the new stadium would appeal to many more artist and performances since it will be a new, modern, clean, stat of the art stadium. The possibility for San Diego acquiring a Major League Soccer team is greatly increased and MLS in the United States has grown by 12.7% and MLS franchise have grown by 52% and MLS in the US wants to add 4 more teams by 2020 and with this new stadium and how popular Soccer is in San Diego we would be a great location for a team. This could also mean MLS championships and even a World Cup. Lets not forget about the Olympics in 2028, a major reason we lost the bid for 2024 was lack of a central stadium facility. We have 34 of 37 necessary venues for the Olympics, I mean the Olympic training facility is located in San Diego, this stadium would without a doubt put us at the top of the bid for 2028 Summer Olympics. This stadium would without a doubt help clean up and modernize a darker part of downtown San Diego which currently is a sight for sore eyes if you have ever wondered around the transit center area. That's a shame considering Gas Lamp, Petco Park and the Convention Center are right there and just down the street is a slum of downtown San Diego. The new stadium would clean this up and create new incentive for more business and development expansion from Petco Park to the Coronado Bridge.
In the end of the day the new Chargers stadium, the "Convadium" makes a lot of sense for San Diego and could not only guarantee the continual return of our biggest events in San Diego like the Comic Co but the increased interest of dozens and dozens of new events, conventions, sporting organizations and much more. If not, we will not only lose the Chargers but potentially lose the biggest events in San Diego not only making the Qualcomm more useless than it is but potentially the Convention Center and even Petco Park.
"Fact: With a new stadium we are guaranteed a Super Bowl if not multiple ones and one Super Bowl can boost local economy by 200-700 million."
WTF??? From where did you get that number?
Let me quote a city controller cost impact report about SB50.
"Estimated Total City Revenues $11.6 million
Estimated Total City Expenses $9.6 million
Estimated Net Total Surplus $2.0 million"
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Ginges Kon Chargers aint even a playoff team stfu
MFDOOM1415 season far from over, regardless don't know what that has to do with anything.
Ginges Kon your second "fact" relies on the team not running 3-4 or last season's 4-12. Unless you can magically ensure perfect seasons and super bowls, your second "fact" is useless, even if the local economy boost merited the costs, which they wouldn't.
My point has nothing to do with the Chargers making it to the SuperBowl to have a SuperBowl. Most the time the NFL has a SuperBowl at a new stadium University of Phoenix Stadium 2008,2015, Met Life Stadium 2012. A new Stadium is almost guaranteed a Superbowl within 2 years of completion and the possibility of more than one SuperBowl is very high especially in a new stadium in an appealing location like San Diego.
lier.. .get the facts right dude. who put you up to this?? Cate?? lol nice try
So you want the taxpayers to pay for a billion dollar stadium? And let me guess, you are against tax-payers paying off student debt in this country.
Snake oil salesmen.
Good lord your facts are so wrong on everything. Dam shame no respect for you Tony you decreased your city with that one sided false narrative dribble.
Harry Hache I don't have the energy to educate the stupid. But we can start with this 100 mm has visited petco so it's just for the owners? Property tax alone from the development around the ball park made the city billions didn't here that when they were discussing cost overruns. Prop c has a disclaimer cost overruns are paid by chargers. Yeah I've read the prop have u chump?
Harry Hache NFL gives millions to charity so does dean what have u done for your community?
How about the 15 million a year the city will save on getting rid of Qualcomm? Or the economic impact from a Super Bowl? The city pays 200 mil a year for parks and req and prop c is a wash. Actually many studies say the tot hike will have a surplus for the gf 1 cent on the dollar. And prop c is written so chargers can't touch any money from the current rate 12.5. Did u know the rate probably not... oh yeah there is also the convention expansion which will bring more money to gf. Conventions and hotels make up 15% of revenue in the gf. We need more space. Contiguous is not happening its illegal, dead on the water only chance in hell of keeping comic con which San Diego locals don't give a fuck about is the convaduim and comic. On knows it. Guess what contiguous will require 67% of the vote witch doesn't have a chance in hell the only way they're only chance is this prop. That's just economics but there is also city brand and community. More people watch the chargers in one day than go to all our libraries in a year but I don't here anyone bitching about they 400 mm palace to hold books. This is a charger town ppl love it here half the tourist town is watching ona Sunday and it means something to us. Get over your corporate welfare bullshit and think about the ppl this will stilly impact and not one fucking person dean...
Henry such an educated voter he listens to tony hawk reading a script but hasn't read prop c. Oh but he has an opinion
Alpha Male Wisdom read my posts and if your making this about race your so far gone there is no help for you.
this sucked... guess what SD an annoying sounding patriots fan is looking out for your best interests. Yeah right
fuck hos voice is annoying.....fuck patriots