This shrine is controversial because the Japanese government choose not to separate those in military convicted of war crimes from those who died in wars. The Japanese government ,unlike Germany still admires their leaders who were guilty of committing heinous war crimes during WW2. The solution is simple that is to separate those convicted of war crimes in another shrine but Japan refused to do this. The current Japanese government still have desire to respect war criminals.
But the United States didn't hold the Emperor accountable for the war crimes despite Tojo clearly stating that all choices were up to the Emperor to decide and approve. MacArthur decided to remove Hirohito from the list of war criminals needed to be arrested (despite Stalin and Churchill's disapproval).
@@u.npeacekeeperball432 Two reasons; the USA saw Japan as constitutional monarchy and was convinced that Hirohito as an emperor was only there for ceremonial functions and not in charge of the whole operations the way Prime Minister was. Another reason was that the Americans had long view of using Japan as ally to buffer the spread of communism. Indicting the revered emperor as war criminals was counter productive in this long term strategic interest. The whole sins imperial Japan committed during war times seemed to be pinned on PM Tojo although there were many more individuals responsible for war atrocities that managed to escape death penalty for example General Ishii Shiro who led the infamous unit 731.
Well, considering Abe Shinzo's grandfather, Kishi Nobusuke, was himself a class A war criminal for his atrocities as the shadow boss of Manchuria. The very fact that he was not only let go by McArthur's cronies in exchange for his willing cooperation as an anti-communist bulwark, but also went on to become the PM of Japan, instead of having justice served to him, explains perfectly well why the Yasukuni is controversial.
I understand but by showing mercy to the emperor that's how we were able to build A great friendship with Japan and there lucky cause if the Soviet Union were to force them to surrender before we did there nation wouldn't be what it is today by not only getting rid of the emperor but his family and government/military officials and would've been treated very harshly compare to the treatment we gave them which was more humane that's how they became A democratic Allie restoring peace by signing A treaty in 1952 which meant no more fighting also during the 1950s/60s they became the 🥈 largest economy behind the US if this wasn't the case they would have joined the dinosaurs instead.
The pain and suffering they caused to humanity and peace was cruel they learned there lesson by suffering not only the largest air raid bombardment but having the first atom bombs dropped on them but despite the destruction I'm impressed how quickly they recovered cause Hiroshima was reduced to A burning waste land now all that's left is for them to admit to what they did just like Germany who were smarter than them cause not only did they surrender when they knew that they were way out of there league but fully admit to what they did.
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
@@Yk1000- the largest air raid and 2 A- bombs was nothing compared to what they did to the people of Asia. Stop whitewashing Japanese history. They deserved everything that has happened, and it's not even enough. Even today, Japan continues to downplay, deny, and avoid educating its people about their history. And towing American political stance, instead shifts the narrative towards anti-communism and how it is a democratic ally. Which, if you know Japanese politics, it is not. Because it's not a democracy if 1 party rules for like 70 out of the 80+ years after WW2. And that party, the LDP are closely associated with far right Japanese organizations such as the Nippon kaigi, which is also a primary proponent that refused to remove war criminals from the Yasukuni shrine. And many continues to believe japan did nothing wrong, and they were only made to pay because they lost.
DO remember that this shrine is NOT state owned. The USA told the Japanese to separate it from the EMPEROR / state. Which they did ... handing it over to a private organisation who some have questioned re their honouring of war criminals.. Of the 2,466,532 people named in the shrine's Book of Souls, 1,068 are war criminals or alleged war criminals including fourteen men charged with Class A war crimes (eleven were convicted on those charges, one was found not guilty of Class A but guilty of Class B, two died during or before trial) by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, because of the decision to honour individuals who were found responsible for serious breaches of international humanitarian law, China, Russia,[2] South Korea and North Korea have called the Yasukuni Shrine an exemplar of the nationalist, revisionist and unapologetic approach Japan has taken towards its conduct during World War II. The USA allowed what transpired following the Japanese defeat, for extremists to deny, block and often pervert the truth re war crimes, crimes against humanity and many other terrifying horrors the Japanese were found guilty of. Denying that history to millions of school children from kindergarten onwards.. many of whom grew up without knowing the truth partly due to many ex war criminals ending up in positions of power within the 'diet' / political overseers.
some of you might not understand why neighboring countries blast on Japanese politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine, in this shrine there are dozens of a list war criminals ( according to International Military Tribunal for the Far East) still being worshiped, this is a manifestation that the official government of Japan refuse to acknolwedge the war crimes and atrocities this country commited in China, Korea and southeast asia. If you as a Japanese teen, he probably knows nothing about Japan's notorious conducts in the past. this part of history is not taught and totally erased by the government, which is a stark contrast to modern German's attitude that admits fully and apologize to the victims.
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
forget japanese teen, millenial, that mean the one that now should reach 30s, mostly think pearl harbor are just movies, and barely know anything about their ww2 history
It was actions not declaration, Japanese has made reparations towards the governments. Unfortunately these governments needs as much funding at that time for various reasons. And in South East Asia, Japan is the biggest investor granting loans with practically 0 interest. And also the thing now about publicly admitting the mistakes of the past, for a country, it means spending $$$, lots of money. You'd be a fool, to think it's just about national pride that's why they haven't.
investment is based on a company's fundamental aim of making profits. it's an economic action rather than deeds of reparation. So what about Germany, so Germany is willing why the Japanese are not? why they don't educate their children about this part of history? @@GenJuhru
One thing that nobody knows is, the emperor himself (also previous emperors like hirohito and akihito) never visited this shrine unlike the prime ministers.
He used to visit and mourned there, not anymore after the class-A war criminals were moved into the shrine. His son also didn't visit, so is his grandson.
If someone from the Middle East created an Osama bin Iaden memorial shrine, than would you rather called them extremist, or rather someone who preserved the Arabic culture??? The same goes to Japan who decided to honor their criminals
Osama bin Laden isn't a country leader or a legitimate country's general assigned to fight in a war, he is a terrorist that defied his country for whatever reason and became a terrorist leader. Your analogy doesn't work at all it is apples and oranges. The only thing standing between becoming a war hero or a war criminal most of the time is the outcome of the war. Therefore it is quite normal and seen all around the world that morally questionable figures get venerated or honored. Also it can be said then that Americans decided to honor criminals and genociders because they still celebrate Colombus day or thanksgiving but that is just nonsensical and it shows a lack of perspective to natural cultural evolution.
The Russians promote and shill for Stalin and America for FDR but its ok when they do it apparently. The shrine is not even dedicated to one person but is a religious memorial
Japanese probably wouldn’t mind if such shrine was made, even if their loved ones were killed in 9/11. What you think and what Japanese think of “shrine” is different.
Yasukuni Shrine is a highly political shrine that was originally built by the Meiji government to legitimize its overthrow of the Edo shogunate. At the beginning of the Boshin War, the imperial family was still on the side of the Shogunate, but this shrine also enshrines the enemies of the Imperial Court who were on the Meiji Restoration side. Furthermore, although it has the name of a Shinto shrine（神社）, it more like a Taoism shrine（廟） than a shrine（神社） that treats the dead as heroes. When this shrine got criticized from overseas, it is only criticized for enshrining war criminals who committed war crimes in Asia. but this shrine also served as a facility to glorify death, telling many young people at the time, ``If you fight and die for Japan, you can become a heroic spirit.'' I used to like this shrine, but the more I learned about it, the more I felt there were various political, historical, religious, and moral contradictions in it, so I don't like it anymore.
No. Ancient religions always built temples for humans who were considered meritorious. Not just Taoism, but Balinese Hinduism and Shintoism. they pray for their ancestors to rest in peace and not forget their services. that is it,
@user-kw4dr8gd2t That's what you people say, however, where was the compensation to china for nanking? To Singapore for sook ching? To Malaysia? To vietnam for stealing all its food? Also if you truly apologise, your school system should teach about the war crime like unit 731, nanking and such... however, it seems your people have not learned it, considering most japanese people have no clue what nanking is!!!
If you're interested in this issue, read Divided Memories: History Textbooks and the Wars in Asia, written by researchers at Stanford University, at least instead of believing Chinese media propaganda or random internet nonsense. I think it's 100 times wiser.
@@犬まにまに Yeah bro, then all the stories from Korea, The Philippines and all the other places Japanese leadership showed its true face surely are Chinese propaganda as well. Grow a brain, please, and stop living in denial.
Some of the students say they don't care about Japanese history at all they only care about core subjects. My personal antidote is that history is like the politicians who try to whitewash it. If you ignore it, it'll come back to bite you.
I have visited the Yasukuni Shrine while in Japan for business. Overall it is an excellent museum and has very nice exhibits showing the war from their standpoint. I did notice some obvious glossing over of some events (such as the Manila Intermuros massacres) which I wrote about in a visitors book. Allow me to recall a conversation I had with my father after he started communicating with a young German gentleman who lived in the area of Germany where my father’s brother was killed in action (RIP Uncle Jack) they traded some fascinating letters and developed quite the friendship. I asked my father if he harbored any resentment toward Germans in general because of his brother’s death. He said that he did not, and the reason was that the average German solider was following orders and doing his duty. He believed all wars are started by the politicians and he thought if 2 countries got into a disagreement it was best to have several regular folks from each country sit down at a kitchen table over coffee and sort it out. So I agree with many of the other comments here that if the shrine eliminated the convicted war criminals then the shrine could have a different meaning and let the regular folks honor the on-the-ground soldiers and sailors who died doing their duty. (Slightly ironic, Dad was in the Seabees in the Pacific during the war and after the surrender he served in Sasebo, Japan during the USA Occupation and really enjoyed the regular folk there).
As a As a Korean, I think this makes the most sense - most soldiers were drafted and destined to go to the front whether they wanted to or not, so it's only natural to memorialize those who simply participated in the war. In fact, it's my understanding that memorials to ordinary soldiers, not generals, are allowed in Germany. The problem is that war crimes are diluted or rationalized in the process, and memorializing generals who are responsible for war crimes, and if Germany had memorialized Himmler, Göring, Reinhard Heydrich, etc., they would have faced a lot of criticism.
@@123-m7x2d Wrong, the elderly, women and children are slaughtered at will, killing for fun, and even competing to see who kills more, these are all recorded in the Japanese newspapers of that year, as conscientious Japanese, there are also people who feel shame because of the cruel behavior of their compatriots to help the Chinese, such as the adopted son of Class-A war criminal Hideki Tojo Tojo Naoyuki, Japanese Communist Party member Ita Sukeo, doctor Hiroshi Yamazaki and many other Japanese are still mourned by the Chinese, so it is obviously wrong to say that all crimes were committed by the emperor
The Yasukuni Shrine is basically an amusement park for Japanese war-crime deniers and ultra-nationalists. They claim to "pay respect" for the soldiers when they are just fantasizing about the resurrection of Japan's long lost imperial might.
@@aproy5256 i'm saying the japanese ultranationalists specifically, and yes they also exist in many countries even in my country indonesia. Thanks to youtube, twitter, facebook and instagram for exposing these groups, i'd found there are thousand and possibly millions of them in my country. I'm a nationalist myself but for my country and not for other countries.
Its a religious memorial for dead people. In their culture you venerate the dead without judging. You cant demand they change their religion and culture to please Chinese communists and give into an Abrahamic guilt based self hatred culture.
That's so silly. Air force veteran here, many of our US naval & air force insignias have the Japanese rising sun...On our planes, ships, uniforms, squadron insignias, etc. To this day that is the flag of the Japanese navy and is flown on international waters. You can cry about it on the internet but that flag ought to stay
Union Jack used by the UK is way worse lol, it's linked to centuries of colonialism, oppression and slavery on a much larger scale, spanning Africa, Middle East and Asia with even more people affected, some still suffering from the effects of their greed to this day yet no one is crying about it. Bit hypocritical isn't it? A flag is nothing more than a design on a piece of fabric and it can't have notorious intents, it's humans that choose to do bad things under the flag so the flag is not to blame
The real controversy with Yasukuni is that the 13 war criminals were quietly enshrined in 1969, over 20+ years after they were executed. Why did Japan wait 20 odd years to do it? Why do it at all? We know why.
I heard that the caretaker of the shrine refused to let them in. So they waited for him to die. And moved class C, and B war criminals in there first. Before finally moved class A war criminals into it
I saw a video of someone who secretly video parts of the museum. It contains a lot of false information and justifies Japan's invasion. One wrote like, Japanese killed 300,000 chinese soldiers disguised as civilians in Nanking. Wow if I have 300,000 soldiers why would I bother to disguise?😅
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
Even the current emperor himself no longer visit this shrine for a personal reason i heard. Emperor hirohito no longer visit this shrine in 1975 (i forgot the exact year) and his successors never visit this shrine again.
Simple answer: war criminals are enshrined and politicians still pay respect to those people who committed such atrocities. The museum which I got to go inside was so hilarious because it paints Japan as a victim. It’s quite ironic though, a country that prides itself on humility and humbleness can’t even bring themselves to the fact that while the shrine wasn’t always meant to have such a controversial image, it’s become that way because the idiots who couldn’t get over losing the war despite instigating America to join still couldn’t humble themselves and still think of those who committed INTERNATIONAL ATROCITIES as people to be respected. I actually feel bad for any children and youth who subjected to learning history from this shrine filled with lies. To any parents or grandparents that continue to respect this shrine and even worse subject the youth to this nonsense YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Culture has nothing to do with this, guys like Tojo don’t deserve any respect.
We do not worship war criminals, we only mourn Yasukuni Shrine as an ancient idea that death is equal as a Japanese culture. If possible, please learn about Japanese culture in Japan before commenting, shallow knowledge alone will only make you hate meaningless.
In the first place, there is no clear legal basis for the distinction between A, B, and C. These are criminal categories used by the Allies for convenience in selecting war criminals, and the designation "Class A war criminal" is merely a "common name.
Japan invaded and did war crime to Indonesians but we in the end work together, especially in automotive industry. Look up the history of Toyota Kijang and you'll find out the meaning behind its name
@@HyperVanilo still does not justify glorification the Japanese state give to those war criminals, with lots of them may had involvement in Pontianak massacre of 1943, which Japan may still deny it ever happened, like how the deny Nanking massacre as well
One of the problems is that many Japanese know very little about what Japan did in WW2 as it is not widely taught in schools in Japan and many of its War Criminals are still revered as heroes to many Japanese. It is usually only when Japanese go abroad that they start to learn the truth of what atrocities the Japanese military did during WW2. It’s a tough pill to swallow when it’s discovered your hero isn’t so much of a hero.
They are just on a different side of the war. They lost their lives for their country just like every other fallen soldiers and this is enough to make them great heroes of Japan. Besides what evil acts did they do? For starters civilian casualties during WWII occurred everywhere so saying they are guilty because of that is just nonsense. Beside if we are to blame civilian deaths shouldn’t the country that dropped two nuke being the ultimate big bad?
In short, you want to interfere with the Japanese people's view of history, so you are asking them to change the education of Japanese children to what you want. Do you understand how abnormal saying is? Or is it incomprehensible to Chinese people who have never experienced a democratic society? That is 100% interference in internal affairs.
I was born and raised in the American south. I can understand where they’re coming from. There’s so many monuments honoring confederate soldiers while those honoring confederate generals are the most controversial. My family driving though downtown often pass by a 6 foot obelisk that’s built on the sight of a church that burnt down during the civil war. Beneath the obelisk it reads “Our Confederate Dead” so if you’re going though Tokyo and you see something in a Shinto or Buddhist shrine that says “Our Japanese WWII Dead” I can understand how some looking on the outside would get upset. We in America have completely come to peace with Germany, Italy, and Japan after the war ended. American news media has never made a fuss about the events mentioned in the video.
If we in the south gave into every demand, we would be slaves for black people. I dont think it will ever stop until the media finds something else to moan about.
3.5 years of Japan occupancy in Indonesia was worst than 300 years of Dutch Colonialism in Indonesia. The pity is most of young Indonesian never knew or learned the history.
Yesss it really is such a shame The young generation seems do not know the history, altho i think its more like they choose to ignore it because of the pop Japan culture now I'm also enjoying Pop Japan Culture, but no matter what the history must never be forgotten, that also include what they have done in the past
The fact is that history is written by the victorious side. However, what can be seen is only the winning side. We will discover a different history when the losers cannot be destroyed. To prevent this from happening, the truly evil countries will block all channels to prevent their citizens from seeing this. Because they dare not face the facts. Japan is obviously not such a country. Anyone who reads this paragraph should know who I am talking about.
Hakko Ichiu ....All I know If China and The United States become Balcanized, Japan will restart its own ambitions .….. But……No ones know what will happen in the future…. Prediction is insanely difficult
Japan will be seen by most as entirely evil, there’s always not very much told stories there’s few individuals soldiers who made a difference, look up for the name of Capt. Issao Yamazoe (along with forgotten soldier in the history), you’ll know why he was even honored in the Dulag, Leyte Philippines, even after WWII
most? most people in the world give japan a free pass but yes, there are always the brave and valiant who place truth and righteousness besides the blade
So many people saying we don’t learn about the war in Japan… this is not true. We learn about the war not only in history classes, but in various other classes and field trips etc. It felt awful to read through the textbook as my own country made mistakes after mistakes leading up to the war, and committing atrocities during the war. Sadly, some (many) students don’t take these classes seriously, as it is just another type of school work for them.
lol. not surprised. you japanese will ALWAYS be failures when it comes to world history, specifically ww2. just accept it. lol. i won't trust ANY japanese when it comes to history. you may have those fancy and expensive looking schools and universities but the whole world KNOWS you're a joke in educational history. lol.
@@happysaladd8951 As I remember from when i saw my source, the Japanese wanted to erase almost any trace of the culture, and they even changed the names of many Korean citizens Making them low class citizens , the prince was forced to join the army and found himself in Hiroshima(You already know what happened there) then, being considered a soldier of the empire, his body was taken to that shrine, ignoring the wishes of the rest of his relatives, I think even the government South Korea asks for his body to be buried on Korean soil
Check out war-criminal countries such as America, France, Britain, they adore the statues of slavers, colonialists. However, those enshrined at Yasukuni are heroes who fought against evil Chinese supremacists and cruel American slavers and colonialists.
There are several misunderstandings in the comment sections. This shrine is now separated from the state authority, and became a private religious institute after the war. The state is not involved with who is enshrined or not. And those who visit the shrine are not necessarily "worshiping" the war criminals. Visiting the shrine is normally seen as a gesture to express a sense of guilt and regret for the citizens who died in vain because of the times they were born in with the militaristic government, pledging that we will not follow the same path Japan once went on. After the modernization of Japan, the imperial government promoted State Shintoism as a way to create a strong national identity among the citizens. This shrine has been believed to be a place where souls of any dead soldiers who fought on the side of the emperors would come around. In the second world war, a lot of people were drafted unwillingly, and people were not able to raise their voice against the government under toxic surveillance. There was no freedom of speech like we have today, and anyone who opposed the war would have been treated a traitor of the country. Soldiers often expressed their acceptance of death by saying “Let's meet in Yasukuni” before a dying battle. This was to comfort their comrades and loved ones that they can still meet again someday after death. I can speak as an ordinally Japanese man for the majority of us. State Shintoism is no longer believed. People are abhorrent of the imperial time, and really condemn the situation where the militaristic government created and forced the people to engage in a toxic nationalism. Yes, it's also the fault of the citizens who supported the militarism, but at the same time, citizens who wanted to have a normal life were victims of the times they were born in. I don't worship war criminals, and I condemn the wrong path the government has taken in Asia Pacific. But I have visited the shrine and paid sympathy to those who had unwillingly lost their lives in such time, while appreciating the privilege of myself being born in a peaceful time. As shown on the video, there are ultra right wingers who deny certain atrocities. Because of the nature of the shrine, it has a strong association with ultra nationalists. I don't support them, but they are a minority. Such people are called 'Kyokuu' and people give them a cold start on the streets. Personally I don’t support the politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine during official business from the perspectives of separation of church and state. I understand the sentiments from Korea and China on this shrine. Emperors themselves stopped going to the shrine after the shrine decided to enshrine the class A,B,C criminals in the Tokyo trial. But I don't think any prime ministers who has given a prayer at the shrine supports war criminals. They have explained so as well. If it's private, I think it’s their choice to visit the shrine.
I thought all Japanese people sincerely come to Yasukuni shrine for war criminals. But I think it would be fortunate if the majority of people who come to worship while thinking like you do. But Japanese worship even though they know that there are war criminals, right? If you want to honor truly innocent victims, you could go to national cemetery. A visitor's review of "Japan exists today because of the victims in the Pacific War" is difficult for Koreans to understand. The Pacific War is just war of aggression.
@@moldkim-z2k Yes, I understand the point of the Korean people too. Like you pointed out, establishing a separate facility may be one solution. That has been proposed by some political parties (e.g. Komei party) to avoid political controversies surrounding class A criminals. Next to the property of shrine, there is a monument dedicated to the nameless soldiers, and some activists claim Japan should expand the facility to build an official Memorial Ceremony for the War Dead. That said, they are not necessarily supporting a state intervention to abolish the shrine / remove the names of war criminals from the point of freedom of religious. Of course we have a ultra right wingers who disagree with this though. But I want to reiterate that people here generally see visiting the shrine as visiting a whole graveyard. It’s ultimately up to the visitor’s choice “who” they would be thinking on their mind. These people are likely thinking of some soldiers who believed they would end up in Yasukuni to meet the loved one after death. There are actually many Koreans, and soldiers from pre-pacific war time who are enshrined too.
@@muuttohaukka0320번역기 돌려서 알아서 보고 답글남겨주세요. 만약 당신이 야스쿠니를 가서 난징대학살이나 위안부, 강제연행, 731부대, 아시아를 해방시키기 위한 전쟁이 아니라 아시아를 침략한 전쟁이고 식민지 운영을 했다고 인정하는지 물어보십시오. 야스쿠니를 참배중인 사람들 중 몇이나 이 사실을 인정할 것 같습니까? 또 당신은 위안부 강제연행에 대해서 인정하십니까? 인정 못한다면 당신이 한 모든 얘기는 변명에 지나지않고 왜 또 일본정부는 사실을 왜곡하려고 하나요?
Interesting to see Japan using the visitation of the shrine to slap the face of the usa, humiliating the usa time and again , while the usa's predictable silence is an expression of guilt over the criminal use of 2 nuclear bombs against japanese civilians
And we should NOT deny that none of this ever happened. Japan is still held accountable of many war crimes that they deny have happened, millions of lives lost in disgusting ways. They need to be held accountable
If you look at Japan a long time ago, you can see how scary militarism. The Japanese people should thank General MacArthur. He is the one who gave democracy to the Japanese people. At that time, 70% of the American people thought that the Japanese emperor should be punished as a war criminal or sentenced to a heavy sentence.
The dead are the dead they can’t change what they did or even apologize they're actions in life were disgusting but in death they are nothing more than ash, ash that left behind families, many of the people shouldn't be celibated but they're families should still have a place mourn As I have Korean and Chinese friends who have great grandparents who were victimized by the Japanese empirial army I've been told of atrocities commited but holding on to the hate rooted in the past ends up hurting everyone not justbthe original victims my condolences to anyone who may have experienced or anyone who's family may been effected by this issue I hope you all live in peace and prosperity
Yasukuni Shrine is not a shrine that enshrines only war criminals such as Hideki Tojo. There is a book in which all the names of the war dead from the Boshin War to World War IIThe writing of the names in the ledger book is an act of enshrinement. Therefore, there is no special monument enshrining anyone, not only Hideki Tojo.(There is a bronze statue of Masujiro Omura, but it is not enshrined.)In the Japanese Shinto religion, there is a belief that everyone is equal in death, so even the hated Tojo, who caused the death of 3 million Japanese, is treated equally by the Japanese.
This is why that when it comes to nation who admits that their past is wrong and have a self-responsible that they should not let that happen again, Germany has my respect. A lot of people are They don't shy away to those things. They can be both proud of their culture and tradition while at the same time, they are not denying their past mistakes
Another funny Korean. First of all, no Japanese admits the past is wrong. Those who are enshrined in Yasukuni are A-class war heroes. Koreans don't need to behave so much like the slaves of the West adopting the Western criteria. Self-responsible??? The Japanese will do that again if they need to, don't think as if they regret it. PM Kishida is now expanding Japan's military, and the Chinese empire is trying to invade Taiwan, South China Sea and conquer the world, it's the same as the 1930s.
Germany will not have a culture, or traditions because of their self-hatred, guilt, and tarnished international image based on the mistakes of their ancestors. Germany is by definition a land mass inhabited by Germans. Deutschland translated is German-nation. This is the area of land allotted to the German people because of history, but more importantly this is the land for them to preserve their language, culture, and traditions. At what point does Germany not become Germany anymore. Is it when 10% are not culturally, linguistically, or genetically German? Is it 20%, maybe 60%? The beauty of the world is in its cultures, and peoples. Much like with paint when you mix two much blue in your red it is no longer red. When you mix all your colors together you lost all your colors but one. Unfortunately, this is the current state of affairs especially in Germany.
It's not a dedication to war crimes, its dedication to men who died for their country and their families, as a former service member I must respect another warrior.
You're misinformed. Regular Japanese soldiers are NOT buried there. Only the Japanese leaders who caused the wars are buried there (including 998 war criminals). So it's a dedication to their war crimes. Also it's NOT a cemetery. It's a shrine and war museum. Most regular people avoid that place. Only Japanese politicians, Japan war crime deniers and ultra-nationalists flock to that place.
I'm honestly tired of China's demagogue propaganda. I would like historical researchers from Japan and China to get together and have a thorough discussion about stories such as the Nanjing Incident and the 30 million people who died in China due to the Japanese invasion, by publicly broadcasting them to the world. All the people who see it can decide for themselves what is true and what is a lie.
Everyone knows that the postwar Tokyo Trials were revenge trials and were unfair. If not, why would the Allies be the judges? Why aren't the Allies being held accountable for massacring civilians with nuclear bombs? Yasukuni Shrine is a place where the heroes who fought for Japan are enshrined.
Well, if the shrine commemorate those common soldiers who died because of their leaders fault, I, as a Chinese, respect that. But now? I won’t spare my spits.
What is the definition of war crimes? The USA used two nuclear bombs, killing more than 100k civilians in Japan, but no one has ever been convicted of war crimes. The world sees what is happening in Gaza, and no one calls it a war crime.
Leave the shrine alone it commenerates there dead it was a sad time in history are countries have done bad things as well. We just should not forget are history and destroying the shrine is erasing history which is wrong.
People tend to ignore the fact that they are war criminals simply because they lost the war. Literally every army general in any country committed murders on civilians during WWII.
@@khalidalali186Who were literal colonialists. 😂😂 They wiped out entire continents and still deny or straight up mock the dead. And they somehow think they have the moral high ground to talk about Japan's past.
"After the war, Fuchida was called on to testify at the trials of some of the Japanese military for Japanese war crimes. This infuriated him, as he believed this was little more than "victors' justice". In the spring of 1947, convinced that the U.S. had treated the Japanese the same way and determined to bring that evidence to the next trial, Fuchida went to Uraga Harbor near Yokosuka to meet a group of returning Japanese prisoners of war. He was surprised to find his former flight engineer, Kazuo Kanegasaki, who all had believed had died in the Battle of Midway. When questioned, Kanegasaki told Fuchida that they were not tortured or abused, much to Fuchida's surprise. He then went on to tell him of a young lady, Peggy Covell, who served them with the deepest love and respect, but whose missionary parents had been killed by Japanese soldiers on the island of Panay in the Philippines. For Fuchida, this was inexplicable, as in the Bushido code revenge was not only permitted, it was "a responsibility" for an offended party to carry out revenge to restore honor. The murderer of one's parents would be a sworn enemy for life. He became almost obsessed trying to understand why anyone would treat their enemies with love and forgiveness." It's pretty much widely documented that civilians and POWs were treated far more humanely by the allies than by the Japanese, excluding the Russians for obvious reasons.
Obviously we can see this fact. The truth is there's nothing wrong with that. First of all, as a Sacerdos I believe that one should not criticize religions and their affairs that one does not understand. Secondly, this Shinto shrine has neither a spiritual tablet nor a cemetery. Only the roster. My logic tells me that this is not worshiping criminals. Third, even after World War II there were still far more serious crimes committed by many people in many countries. In the Soviet Union, China, France or the Middle East and Southeast Asia, these men who committed more serious crimes were literally worshiped, and their memorials and statues still stand in those countries. I don't think I know enough about the situation in every country, but I know Japan, and I know that the people in this country are kind and repentant.
In addition to Yasukuni, the graves of deceased Japanese soldiers are located in the cemeteries where they were born and raised. Since Yasukuni is far away, we visit the graves of soldiers in nearby cemeteries.
Yasukuni Shrine is a place to honor those who have died in the line of duty since 1868. Not only in the Pacific War, people who served Japan are enshrined in Yasukuni Shrine after their death. Too many people misunderstand the meaning of the existence of Yasukuni Shrine in the first place.
If their fathers are empire founders; warlords; mafia godfathers; and multi millionaires; their fathers are war criminals but rich and powerful; and left them a huge estate. Their feeling must be very complicate. In the end, they are still families. it’s all about the memorial for their fathers; whatever they did.
China makes it controversial, not Japan. It's the China's interference of the overseas affairs. China, being an Atheist country with Communism, they cannot fathom anything beyond money and materialism. That's the fact about Chinese Communism. Hypocritical.
China is not communist. China is a Confucian and Taoist country. And there is no creator in Taoism and Confucianism. Chinese religion is atheistic because according to Taoism and Buddhism, there is no creator who created the universe. It has nothing to do with communism. And China is the most visited country in the world. Japan is not in the top 30 most visited countries in the world
Correct me if I'm wrong but Japan never had to defend itself with only one exception, the Mongolian invasion. So, all those burried there were fallen on foreign lands, as part of n invasion force, no ?
This is clearly bullying . A shrine is just a shrine nothing more or less . China invaded and ruled Vietnam for like 1000 years and still want to do it , especially Taiwan right now is on the plate , did they show any remorse or stop doing it ? Nope
Japan has their own mindset, beliefs and values, I believe many Japanese are questioning the Yasukuni shrine too, but it's difficult. You honor the fallen soldiers who fought for the country indiscriminately. They were writers, bus drivers, office workers, musicians, criminals, beggars or playboys, rich or poor, whatever. They're honored indiscriminately at this Shrine. It's also a point of view.
that's funny. japanese and history? lol. every time i see any japanese history "expert" and "teacher", i always doubt them with a laugh. now that's parody
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I've no idea what your point is. I didn't even mention history or anything about it. Either you expand your opinion, so it has a form and logic, or just don't react at all. "First doubt, then inquire, then discover" -Henry T. Buckle. Your problem is that you're stuck at doubt, and you shoot blank shots here for something that isn't even there.
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I see, you're trolling here. 🤔 That's why you're uttering nonsense, no wonder. I'm from Germany by the way. Funny how you think you're outsmarting people here. Hier, du brauchst Ginkgo Biloba, du hast wesentlich nicht genug, alter Schwede 😂.
Japan's government hasn't yet forgotten their glory days, they are waiting for a rebirth of their nation no longer under the strong arm of the U.S. but i doubt that will happen in our lifetime
The scars of my grandparents in from the past is still imminent. The amount of damage the Japanese has done to Southeast Asia is unprecedented and still hurts today, especially to the "comfort women" in my country who is still deprived of benefits
It is certain that Japan today is the most peaceful and safe country in the world, with no wars. There are some idiots who claim that the Japanese military is the same as the Nazis, but the fact that Japan is more developed and peaceful than that idiot's country is interesting.
I find it hypocritical on the side of China to call out Japan to honor treaties when they themselves won't honor UNCLOS and continue aggressive action in disputed waters claiming sovereignty on a fantasy called 10-dash line (yes, they added another line). Same goes to South Korea where a significant number of the Japanese Imperial Army in WW2 were Koreans and took part in committing atrocities.
There's also 'Yasukuni Shrine' in indonesia, some 3000 japanese soldiers stayed in here to fight against the return of the Dutch, the fallen japanese soldier enshrined as hero in indonesia, and every japanese prime minister and emperor have visited the soldiers grave.
That’s more in line with the so called “ Japanese co-prosperity sphere” where imperial Japan also wanted to create an impression they are eliminating white colonialism from Asia, so clearly on a micro scale i don’t doubt many soldiers believed and died for it. The big picture remains though, as The “ liberated” nations 😂
@@TheLooking4sunset it would not change the fact that they helped the indonesian defend their homeland from dutch invasion, at least they are doing something better than helping the dutch or do nothing at all.
That’s easy to say if you’re not one of those whose ancestors were amongst the countless innocents mercilessly slaughtered by the Japanese military. The acts carried out by the Japanese during world war 2 to fellow humans are beyond monstrousity.
No world leader visit Yasukuni shrine when they visit Japan like in other countries when they visit because there are 14 WW2 war criminals buried with 2.5 millions other Japanese who were drafted to serve their country. If I was Japanese, I would want to remove these 14 war criminals from Yasukuni shrine to honor rest of Japanese who fought for their country. Also there will be less headache with criticism from other countries for cleaner image for Japan. But Japanese government is refusing to do that. Compare to other countries, Japanese do not form social groups to criticize their government when they are doing wrong. Maybe about 5,000-10,000 at most with 122 million people which can't change anything. If it was S Korea, there would be millions gather to change leadership. It's no surprise that cherry blossom scandal can't be fixed in Japan. In the past, maybe 10 Japanese government officials visited Yasukuni shrine but now days about 100 because they are getting exposures from S Korean and Chinese media which Japanese media carry over information inside Japan which benefits these Japanese officials from Japanese right wing during election. It seems no Japanese are questioning their motive for visiting Yasukuni shrine. If some government officials with their family member buried there then that is understandable but if they are visiting Yasukuni shrine for pure publication to benefit their election cause then it should be publicized for Japanese public. Most issues between S Korea and Japan can be solved peacefully if both side have open minded with other culture little better. I like to see more exchange student program between S Korea and Japan for better understanding of other culture. To Korean, Dokdo is historical issue but for Japanese it's technical issue regarding territory. Most Japanese don't understand that both North and South Koreans will go total war with Japan to protect Dokdo because occupation for Korea in 1900 started with Dokdo. When Japan tried to claimed Dokdo in 1900, hands were tied for Korean government to stop it. Dokdo is historical symbol for Korean sovereign territory and millions of Koreans will sacrifice their life to defend it which Japanese don't understand.
In fact, there are a lot of political factors in the Yasukuni Shrine. Why did the Prime Minister visit the shrine? What benefits have you gained? Right-wing votes? The downside is to anger China and South Korea. Think about it carefully, because Japan regards invading other countries as defending its own country
Yes yes, nice talk about how Mr Mao’s past too bruh. His little fantasies & how he really erased the region & culture of those times. Now China has become culture-less having to revisit the dynasties to relearn history.
Lill bruh said culture less 😂 60% of japanses culture and language was copied from China they were a chinses vassal state to China for 2000 years everything they know about the world was thanks to China. Lill bruh still speaks in a downgraded copycat version of chinses you call japanses calling me culture less😂 learn history instead of cope pls
Except you are allowed to criticize Mao in China, most Chinese Communist Party member nowadays disassociate themself from Mao and consider Mao's decision in his later years to be detrimental, despite his heroic achievement in his early years.
I don't have any feelings about it. Many temples and ancestral halls in China have this phenomenon. For example, Guan Yu was actually the perpetrator of the ultimate war crime. Many of the soldiers on war memorials around the world have committed more serious crimes. These are the people who blame Japan. Their double standards are disgusting🤮
There is a thing called international law, which is the set of rules, norms, and standards generally recognised as binding between states. Have some common sense!
@@joezhou5542 Das größte Problem des Rechts besteht darin, dass es die Geschichte nicht beurteilen kann. Aber Moral kann es. Ihre moralischen Maßstäbe basieren also auf Gesetzen, die sich ständig ändern?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@crimson_koi1092 Crime does not diminish with time. Worshiping ancient war criminals is tantamount to endorsing their crimes. What's more, no country on earth abides by the so-called international law. What is the difference between the treatment of those PLA and Americans who massacred Vietnamese civilians and the Yasukuni Shrine? Even if the Americans try them in military courts, those PLA are called the so-called heroes of the country. Let us see that Japan has not participated in any war for seventy years, but the same appalling crime was committed again after World War II by the righteousjust when the war was end.
There should be no controversial, Japan honours their dead. And it is done in a certain time frame. The controversial is not from inside of Japan, it comes from the outside.
The shrine isn’t necessarily the problem, it’s the fact that they refuse to distinguish between regular Japanese soldiers and war criminals, since distinguishing would be seen as an admission of guilt in WW2
Seeing chinese tourist know a days creating nuisance at other country, a well as China aggressiveness towards its neighbour, made me think having this Shrine exist is not bad afterall.
Nothing controversial every country celebrates it's heroes. One's heroes are another's villians. We can't celebrate any historical figure if the criteria is consensus of all. Also most visitors seem to be visiting only for knowledge & praying for peace
Yeah, that’s very ashamed of Ai Kayano. If I am like them invading China and I have relatives lives there. I wouldn’t be called a “Hero.” That’s what my dad told me.
To visit a shrine is wrong but to build military bases in South China Sea in present day is not imperialism / act of aggression for Chinese leadership... wow.
America, Britain, China, and Dutch so-called "ABCD Encirclement" which insists the South China Sea is Chinese territory, colonizing SE Asia, and then blocking the Japanese who are trying to get SE Asia for resources, and attacking the Japanese by Flying Tigers troops of America is not imperialism, but the Japanese tried to go through the ABCD Blockage is an aggression....wow, what a logic! You are speaking as if China is insisting on it now, but it is not true. The ABCD insisted on it a century ago, China drew the 9-dash lines a century ago, and the consistent attack on the Japanese by the ABCD subsequently led to the Pearl Harbour Attack. And you're ranting it's a sneak attack! What incapable creatures get brainwashed so deeply.....wow
China is the Imperial Japan of the 21st century, that much has been established. Your statement however, is whataboutism. Both China and Japan have done/are doing horrible things are the leadership is too childish to acknowledge it.
This shrine is controversial because the Japanese government choose not to separate those in military convicted of war crimes from those who died in wars. The Japanese government ,unlike Germany still admires their leaders who were guilty of committing heinous war crimes during WW2. The solution is simple that is to separate those convicted of war crimes in another shrine but Japan refused to do this. The current Japanese government still have desire to respect war criminals.
But the United States didn't hold the Emperor accountable for the war crimes despite Tojo clearly stating that all choices were up to the Emperor to decide and approve. MacArthur decided to remove Hirohito from the list of war criminals needed to be arrested (despite Stalin and Churchill's disapproval).
@@u.npeacekeeperball432 Do you think Emperor could say “No” when literally 90% of the government is controlled by the army? U slow aren’t u kiddo?
I think only Germany avoids praising them. Countries like UK, USA still praise their own war criminals
@@u.npeacekeeperball432 Two reasons; the USA saw Japan as constitutional monarchy and was convinced that Hirohito as an emperor was only there for ceremonial functions and not in charge of the whole operations the way Prime Minister was. Another reason was that the Americans had long view of using Japan as ally to buffer the spread of communism. Indicting the revered emperor as war criminals was counter productive in this long term strategic interest. The whole sins imperial Japan committed during war times seemed to be pinned on PM Tojo although there were many more individuals responsible for war atrocities that managed to escape death penalty for example General Ishii Shiro who led the infamous unit 731.
@@u.npeacekeeperball432yeah and usa recruited nazis to work in NASA. Let's say moral ethics was not the US's strong suit.
Well, considering Abe Shinzo's grandfather, Kishi Nobusuke, was himself a class A war criminal for his atrocities as the shadow boss of Manchuria. The very fact that he was not only let go by McArthur's cronies in exchange for his willing cooperation as an anti-communist bulwark, but also went on to become the PM of Japan, instead of having justice served to him, explains perfectly well why the Yasukuni is controversial.
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I understand but by showing mercy to the emperor that's how we were able to build A great friendship with Japan and there lucky cause if the Soviet Union were to force them to surrender before we did there nation wouldn't be what it is today by not only getting rid of the emperor but his family and government/military officials and would've been treated very harshly compare to the treatment we gave them which was more humane that's how they became A democratic Allie restoring peace by signing A treaty in 1952 which meant no more fighting also during the 1950s/60s they became the 🥈 largest economy behind the US if this wasn't the case they would have joined the dinosaurs instead.
The pain and suffering they caused to humanity and peace was cruel they learned there lesson by suffering not only the largest air raid bombardment but having the first atom bombs dropped on them but despite the destruction I'm impressed how quickly they recovered cause Hiroshima was reduced to A burning waste land now all that's left is for them to admit to what they did just like Germany who were smarter than them cause not only did they surrender when they knew that they were way out of there league but fully admit to what they did.
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
@@Yk1000- the largest air raid and 2 A- bombs was nothing compared to what they did to the people of Asia. Stop whitewashing Japanese history. They deserved everything that has happened, and it's not even enough.
Even today, Japan continues to downplay, deny, and avoid educating its people about their history. And towing American political stance, instead shifts the narrative towards anti-communism and how it is a democratic ally. Which, if you know Japanese politics, it is not. Because it's not a democracy if 1 party rules for like 70 out of the 80+ years after WW2. And that party, the LDP are closely associated with far right Japanese organizations such as the Nippon kaigi, which is also a primary proponent that refused to remove war criminals from the Yasukuni shrine. And many continues to believe japan did nothing wrong, and they were only made to pay because they lost.
DO remember that this shrine is NOT state owned. The USA told the Japanese to separate it from the EMPEROR / state. Which they did ... handing it over to a private organisation who some have questioned re their honouring of war criminals.. Of the 2,466,532 people named in the shrine's Book of Souls, 1,068 are war criminals or alleged war criminals including fourteen men charged with Class A war crimes (eleven were convicted on those charges, one was found not guilty of Class A but guilty of Class B, two died during or before trial) by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, because of the decision to honour individuals who were found responsible for serious breaches of international humanitarian law, China, Russia,[2] South Korea and North Korea have called the Yasukuni Shrine an exemplar of the nationalist, revisionist and unapologetic approach Japan has taken towards its conduct during World War II. The USA allowed what transpired following the Japanese defeat, for extremists to deny, block and often pervert the truth re war crimes, crimes against humanity and many other terrifying horrors the Japanese were found guilty of. Denying that history to millions of school children from kindergarten onwards.. many of whom grew up without knowing the truth partly due to many ex war criminals ending up in positions of power within the 'diet' / political overseers.
Well American ever make ww2 exhibition in Japan? Like is there any near or around the US military bases? Gonna visit soon.
しっかりとした証拠があるから否定してるんだと言う事を理解して欲しい
some of you might not understand why neighboring countries blast on Japanese politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine, in this shrine there are dozens of a list war criminals ( according to International Military Tribunal for the Far East) still being worshiped, this is a manifestation that the official government of Japan refuse to acknolwedge the war crimes and atrocities this country commited in China, Korea and southeast asia. If you as a Japanese teen, he probably knows nothing about Japan's notorious conducts in the past. this part of history is not taught and totally erased by the government, which is a stark contrast to modern German's attitude that admits fully and apologize to the victims.
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
forget japanese teen, millenial, that mean the one that now should reach 30s, mostly think pearl harbor are just movies, and barely know anything about their ww2 history
適当な嘘つくなよ、日本の教科書も見た事ないくせに何が「日本は謝罪もせず残虐行為を否定している」だよ、結局日本が何回謝罪しようがお前みたいな末端の人間に何一つ伝わってないんだからこれまでの日本の謝罪は全部無駄だったって事だよ。つまる所、中国と韓国はいつまでも被害者フレームを利用して日本との外交問題が起こるたびに反日プロパガンダを煽るだけで愚かな国民が一致団結するんだからいつまでたっても日本を許すメリットがないんだよ。
It was actions not declaration, Japanese has made reparations towards the governments. Unfortunately these governments needs as much funding at that time for various reasons. And in South East Asia, Japan is the biggest investor granting loans with practically 0 interest.
And also the thing now about publicly admitting the mistakes of the past, for a country, it means spending $$$, lots of money. You'd be a fool, to think it's just about national pride that's why they haven't.
investment is based on a company's fundamental aim of making profits. it's an economic action rather than deeds of reparation. So what about Germany, so Germany is willing why the Japanese are not? why they don't educate their children about this part of history? @@GenJuhru
One thing that nobody knows is, the emperor himself (also previous emperors like hirohito and akihito) never visited this shrine unlike the prime ministers.
He used to visit and mourned there, not anymore after the class-A war criminals were moved into the shrine. His son also didn't visit, so is his grandson.
The royal family should resume visiting the shrine.
@@abc2390986 not a problem unless they should separate the war criminals and other whom involved in atrocities they did in the past.
@@freeskier64 that's also i want to say.
In fact, it is difficult to find records of Tenno visiting shrines by looking at records over the past two thousand years. Any shrine
If someone from the Middle East created an Osama bin Iaden memorial shrine, than would you rather called them extremist, or rather someone who preserved the Arabic culture???
The same goes to Japan who decided to honor their criminals
Osama bin Laden isn't a country leader or a legitimate country's general assigned to fight in a war, he is a terrorist that defied his country for whatever reason and became a terrorist leader. Your analogy doesn't work at all it is apples and oranges.
The only thing standing between becoming a war hero or a war criminal most of the time is the outcome of the war. Therefore it is quite normal and seen all around the world that morally questionable figures get venerated or honored. Also it can be said then that Americans decided to honor criminals and genociders because they still celebrate Colombus day or thanksgiving but that is just nonsensical and it shows a lack of perspective to natural cultural evolution.
@@Ceylin_Kurtbogan Let's change it to HitIer then
The Russians promote and shill for Stalin and America for FDR but its ok when they do it apparently. The shrine is not even dedicated to one person but is a religious memorial
Japanese probably wouldn’t mind if such shrine was made, even if their loved ones were killed in 9/11. What you think and what Japanese think of “shrine” is different.
Why do you equate war with terrorism? At least they're not actively attacking civilians.
Yasukuni Shrine is a highly political shrine that was originally built by the Meiji government to legitimize its overthrow of the Edo shogunate.
At the beginning of the Boshin War, the imperial family was still on the side of the Shogunate, but this shrine also enshrines the enemies of the Imperial Court who were on the Meiji Restoration side.
Furthermore, although it has the name of a Shinto shrine（神社）, it more like a Taoism shrine（廟） than a shrine（神社） that treats the dead as heroes.
When this shrine got criticized from overseas, it is only criticized for enshrining war criminals who committed war crimes in Asia.
but this shrine also served as a facility to glorify death, telling many young people at the time, ``If you fight and die for Japan, you can become a heroic spirit.''
I used to like this shrine, but the more I learned about it, the more I felt there were various political, historical, religious, and moral contradictions in it, so I don't like it anymore.
New servant class: War Criminal.
No. Ancient religions always built temples for humans who were considered meritorious. Not just Taoism, but Balinese Hinduism and Shintoism. they pray for their ancestors to rest in peace and not forget their services. that is it,
i like Yasukuni
Yasukuni >>>>> Comfort Women
@@GOT_9808 yeah im Mao Zedong like this
They should own their mistakes NOT deny them
i wonder why all the japanese reply not in english. this is the fundamental psyche of their behavor.
@user-kw4dr8gd2t no u are not, first of all, u are still occupied in okinawa, second, the fxxking war criminals are in the shrine!
Well the Japanese are very very brave… until they lose. Then they become wimpy sore losers like the kind of girl in their ehem “animations”
@user-kw4dr8gd2t Not true
@user-kw4dr8gd2t That's what you people say, however, where was the compensation to china for nanking? To Singapore for sook ching? To Malaysia? To vietnam for stealing all its food? Also if you truly apologise, your school system should teach about the war crime like unit 731, nanking and such... however, it seems your people have not learned it, considering most japanese people have no clue what nanking is!!!
The fact japan doesnt teach their youngs bout their war attrocities is disgusting.
If you're interested in this issue, read Divided Memories: History Textbooks and the Wars in Asia, written by researchers at Stanford University, at least instead of believing Chinese media propaganda or random internet nonsense. I think it's 100 times wiser.
@@犬まにまに Yeah bro, then all the stories from Korea, The Philippines and all the other places Japanese leadership showed its true face surely are Chinese propaganda as well. Grow a brain, please, and stop living in denial.
Does White European teach their youngs about their colonies in America, Africa, Australia and Asia?
They should not hate themselves like many in the west sadly do.
Some of the students say they don't care about Japanese history at all they only care about core subjects. My personal antidote is that history is like the politicians who try to whitewash it. If you ignore it, it'll come back to bite you.
I have visited the Yasukuni Shrine while in Japan for business. Overall it is an excellent museum and has very nice exhibits showing the war from their standpoint. I did notice some obvious glossing over of some events (such as the Manila Intermuros massacres) which I wrote about in a visitors book. Allow me to recall a conversation I had with my father after he started communicating with a young German gentleman who lived in the area of Germany where my father’s brother was killed in action (RIP Uncle Jack) they traded some fascinating letters and developed quite the friendship. I asked my father if he harbored any resentment toward Germans in general because of his brother’s death. He said that he did not, and the reason was that the average German solider was following orders and doing his duty. He believed all wars are started by the politicians and he thought if 2 countries got into a disagreement it was best to have several regular folks from each country sit down at a kitchen table over coffee and sort it out. So I agree with many of the other comments here that if the shrine eliminated the convicted war criminals then the shrine could have a different meaning and let the regular folks honor the on-the-ground soldiers and sailors who died doing their duty. (Slightly ironic, Dad was in the Seabees in the Pacific during the war and after the surrender he served in Sasebo, Japan during the USA Occupation and really enjoyed the regular folk there).
i like Yasukuni
As a As a Korean, I think this makes the most sense - most soldiers were drafted and destined to go to the front whether they wanted to or not, so it's only natural to memorialize those who simply participated in the war. In fact, it's my understanding that memorials to ordinary soldiers, not generals, are allowed in Germany.
The problem is that war crimes are diluted or rationalized in the process, and memorializing generals who are responsible for war crimes, and if Germany had memorialized Himmler, Göring, Reinhard Heydrich, etc., they would have faced a lot of criticism.
@@123-m7x2d Wrong, the elderly, women and children are slaughtered at will, killing for fun, and even competing to see who kills more, these are all recorded in the Japanese newspapers of that year, as conscientious Japanese, there are also people who feel shame because of the cruel behavior of their compatriots to help the Chinese, such as the adopted son of Class-A war criminal Hideki Tojo Tojo Naoyuki, Japanese Communist Party member Ita Sukeo, doctor Hiroshi Yamazaki and many other Japanese are still mourned by the Chinese, so it is obviously wrong to say that all crimes were committed by the emperor
@@123-m7x2d they put extreme nationalist ideologies into the minds of the soldiers. in an avalanche, no snowflake is innocent
The Yasukuni Shrine is basically an amusement park for Japanese war-crime deniers and ultra-nationalists. They claim to "pay respect" for the soldiers when they are just fantasizing about the resurrection of Japan's long lost imperial might.
Those ultranationalists still exist as for today.
@@kadruninsaf5467it’s not only Japan, every country has it.
@@aproy5256 i'm saying the japanese ultranationalists specifically, and yes they also exist in many countries even in my country indonesia. Thanks to youtube, twitter, facebook and instagram for exposing these groups, i'd found there are thousand and possibly millions of them in my country. I'm a nationalist myself but for my country and not for other countries.
Its a religious memorial for dead people. In their culture you venerate the dead without judging. You cant demand they change their religion and culture to please Chinese communists and give into an Abrahamic guilt based self hatred culture.
@@kadruninsaf5467 What do you think of Indonesia's massacre of Chinese in 1998?
Flying the imperial army flag is offensive. The war crimes committed in Asia under that flag have gone largely unanswered.
@user-kw4dr8gd2t それは児童強姦者の旗です
Well u.k. are still using the union flag when it also symbolize colonization lol. So is that really matters? 😅
That's so silly. Air force veteran here, many of our US naval & air force insignias have the Japanese rising sun...On our planes, ships, uniforms, squadron insignias, etc.
To this day that is the flag of the Japanese navy and is flown on international waters. You can cry about it on the internet but that flag ought to stay
Imperial flag is there navy flag tho
Union Jack used by the UK is way worse lol, it's linked to centuries of colonialism, oppression and slavery on a much larger scale, spanning Africa, Middle East and Asia with even more people affected, some still suffering from the effects of their greed to this day yet no one is crying about it. Bit hypocritical isn't it? A flag is nothing more than a design on a piece of fabric and it can't have notorious intents, it's humans that choose to do bad things under the flag so the flag is not to blame
The real controversy with Yasukuni is that the 13 war criminals were quietly enshrined in 1969, over 20+ years after they were executed.
Why did Japan wait 20 odd years to do it? Why do it at all? We know why.
Well americans are calling american soldiers a war heroes who killed innocent people in iraq and afghanistan.🤦🏼♂️
I heard that the caretaker of the shrine refused to let them in. So they waited for him to die. And moved class C, and B war criminals in there first. Before finally moved class A war criminals into it
I saw a video of someone who secretly video parts of the museum. It contains a lot of false information and justifies Japan's invasion. One wrote like, Japanese killed 300,000 chinese soldiers disguised as civilians in Nanking. Wow if I have 300,000 soldiers why would I bother to disguise?😅
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
Even the current emperor himself no longer visit this shrine for a personal reason i heard.
Emperor hirohito no longer visit this shrine in 1975 (i forgot the exact year) and his successors never visit this shrine again.
Simple answer: war criminals are enshrined and politicians still pay respect to those people who committed such atrocities. The museum which I got to go inside was so hilarious because it paints Japan as a victim.
It’s quite ironic though, a country that prides itself on humility and humbleness can’t even bring themselves to the fact that while the shrine wasn’t always meant to have such a controversial image, it’s become that way because the idiots who couldn’t get over losing the war despite instigating America to join still couldn’t humble themselves and still think of those who committed INTERNATIONAL ATROCITIES as people to be respected. I actually feel bad for any children and youth who subjected to learning history from this shrine filled with lies. To any parents or grandparents that continue to respect this shrine and even worse subject the youth to this nonsense YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Culture has nothing to do with this, guys like Tojo don’t deserve any respect.
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We do not worship war criminals, we only mourn Yasukuni Shrine as an ancient idea that death is equal as a Japanese culture. If possible, please learn about Japanese culture in Japan before commenting, shallow knowledge alone will only make you hate meaningless.
@@aelgi3713正直日本がいくら説明しても西側諸国は聞かないんだよ、100年前から
@@TV-ex5qq これ西側が言ってるんじゃなくてほとんどは隣国人だぞ。
In the first place, there is no clear legal basis for the distinction between A, B, and C. These are criminal categories used by the Allies for convenience in selecting war criminals, and the designation "Class A war criminal" is merely a "common name.
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Not only Japanese people but also Taiwanese people visit this place many times every year.
This is why it's still very hard to forgive Japan for their war crimes against Asia-Pacific, they never had their own 'vergangenheitsbewältigung'.
"vergangenheitsbewältigung" no idea cannot pronounce it but i feel it sounds like a cool weapon, or an amazing special attack that will finish it.
Who is finding it hard to forgive Japan? What do you mean by Japan? The country, geographically? The people? What are you even talking about?
Japan invaded and did war crime to Indonesians but we in the end work together, especially in automotive industry. Look up the history of Toyota Kijang and you'll find out the meaning behind its name
@unregisturd Literally every country occupied by Japan during WW2: Philippines, China, Korea, etc.
@@HyperVanilo still does not justify glorification the Japanese state give to those war criminals, with lots of them may had involvement in Pontianak massacre of 1943, which Japan may still deny it ever happened, like how the deny Nanking massacre as well
One of the problems is that many Japanese know very little about what Japan did in WW2 as it is not widely taught in schools in Japan and many of its War Criminals are still revered as heroes to many Japanese. It is usually only when Japanese go abroad that they start to learn the truth of what atrocities the Japanese military did during WW2. It’s a tough pill to swallow when it’s discovered your hero isn’t so much of a hero.
Why Westerners are not blamed while only Japan is criticized😂
They are just on a different side of the war. They lost their lives for their country just like every other fallen soldiers and this is enough to make them great heroes of Japan. Besides what evil acts did they do? For starters civilian casualties during WWII occurred everywhere so saying they are guilty because of that is just nonsense. Beside if we are to blame civilian deaths shouldn’t the country that dropped two nuke being the ultimate big bad?
In short, you want to interfere with the Japanese people's view of history, so you are asking them to change the education of Japanese children to what you want. Do you understand how abnormal saying is? Or is it incomprehensible to Chinese people who have never experienced a democratic society? That is 100% interference in internal affairs.
Hero is an overstatement. That's not taught
@@abc2390986God give me strength to forgive the sheer stupidity and ignorance of your comment.
I was born and raised in the American south. I can understand where they’re coming from. There’s so many monuments honoring confederate soldiers while those honoring confederate generals are the most controversial. My family driving though downtown often pass by a 6 foot obelisk that’s built on the sight of a church that burnt down during the civil war. Beneath the obelisk it reads “Our Confederate Dead” so if you’re going though Tokyo and you see something in a Shinto or Buddhist shrine that says “Our Japanese WWII Dead” I can understand how some looking on the outside would get upset. We in America have completely come to peace with Germany, Italy, and Japan after the war ended. American news media has never made a fuss about the events mentioned in the video.
If we in the south gave into every demand, we would be slaves for black people. I dont think it will ever stop until the media finds something else to moan about.
Because the United States had almost nothing to lose in World War II, and the countries you are talking about became your colonies, especially Japan
oh no no no, it is NOT, i repeat, NOT the same.
3.5 years of Japan occupancy in Indonesia was worst than 300 years of Dutch Colonialism in Indonesia.
The pity is most of young Indonesian never knew or learned the history.
Yesss it really is such a shame
The young generation seems do not know the history, altho i think its more like they choose to ignore it because of the pop Japan culture now
I'm also enjoying Pop Japan Culture, but no matter what the history must never be forgotten, that also include what they have done in the past
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@@Marrtpoas an indonesian, i can respect your opinion.
You have mfers in here saying they were awesome....
@dellyspice so you're saying a child like mentality.
The fact is that history is written by the victorious side. However, what can be seen is only the winning side. We will discover a different history when the losers cannot be destroyed. To prevent this from happening, the truly evil countries will block all channels to prevent their citizens from seeing this. Because they dare not face the facts. Japan is obviously not such a country. Anyone who reads this paragraph should know who I am talking about.
The shrine's standing means symbol of geopolitical ambition. Japanese ruling class wants Japan to be a world superpower.
Hakko Ichiu ....All I know If China and The United States become Balcanized, Japan will restart its own ambitions .…..
But……No ones know what will happen in the future….
Prediction is insanely difficult
If Japanese had wanted to be a super power, we would have been much better than this. lol
Impossible
@@polarspirit Every single single person own chances to become President…..haha
@@nirvana4165 incorrect, in Japan, you have to be from a "politic family" or you have to be extremely rich like bankers or owns big company
Japan will be seen by most as entirely evil, there’s always not very much told stories there’s few individuals soldiers who made a difference, look up for the name of Capt. Issao Yamazoe (along with forgotten soldier in the history), you’ll know why he was even honored in the Dulag, Leyte Philippines, even after WWII
most? most people in the world give japan a free pass
but yes, there are always the brave and valiant who place truth and righteousness besides the blade
Yasukuni >>>>> Comfort Women
So many people saying we don’t learn about the war in Japan… this is not true. We learn about the war not only in history classes, but in various other classes and field trips etc. It felt awful to read through the textbook as my own country made mistakes after mistakes leading up to the war, and committing atrocities during the war.
Sadly, some (many) students don’t take these classes seriously, as it is just another type of school work for them.
lol. not surprised. you japanese will ALWAYS be failures when it comes to world history, specifically ww2. just accept it. lol. i won't trust ANY japanese when it comes to history. you may have those fancy and expensive looking schools and universities but the whole world KNOWS you're a joke in educational history. lol.
A curious detail is that one of the princes of the Korean royal family ended up there and they refused to return his remains to Korea.
North Korea already abducted a girl descendant of that family decades ago.
How do the royal princes ended up there in the first place ?
@@happysaladd8951 As I remember from when i saw my source, the Japanese wanted to erase almost any trace of the culture, and they even changed the names of many Korean citizens Making them low class citizens , the prince was forced to join the army and found himself in Hiroshima(You already know what happened there) then, being considered a soldier of the empire, his body was taken to that shrine, ignoring the wishes of the rest of his relatives, I think even the government South Korea asks for his body to be buried on Korean soil
A lack of punishment of criminals after the war has led to this
Check out war-criminal countries such as America, France, Britain, they adore the statues of slavers, colonialists. However, those enshrined at Yasukuni are heroes who fought against evil Chinese supremacists and cruel American slavers and colonialists.
The American South and Jim Crow is a prime example of what happens if you go too soft on enemy forces after their surrender.
内政干渉意外の何物でもないな、そもそもA級だのB級戦犯だのが戦勝国側の事後法による一方的な犯罪者扱いでしかない。ほとんどの日本人は東条英機が犯罪者だなんて思ってないよ、あくまでも戦時内閣の難しい舵取りを任され、その責任を被って処刑された１人の政治家でしかない。
っていう日本人の飛躍した論理ね。
他国の干渉については同意。
*This should be shown in schools!*
天皇陛下萬歳！！大日本帝国萬歳！！🤪
You can't condem a national shrine to war dead because of 1 war.
There are several misunderstandings in the comment sections. This shrine is now separated from the state authority, and became a private religious institute after the war. The state is not involved with who is enshrined or not. And those who visit the shrine are not necessarily "worshiping" the war criminals. Visiting the shrine is normally seen as a gesture to express a sense of guilt and regret for the citizens who died in vain because of the times they were born in with the militaristic government, pledging that we will not follow the same path Japan once went on.
After the modernization of Japan, the imperial government promoted State Shintoism as a way to create a strong national identity among the citizens. This shrine has been believed to be a place where souls of any dead soldiers who fought on the side of the emperors would come around. In the second world war, a lot of people were drafted unwillingly, and people were not able to raise their voice against the government under toxic surveillance. There was no freedom of speech like we have today, and anyone who opposed the war would have been treated a traitor of the country. Soldiers often expressed their acceptance of death by saying “Let's meet in Yasukuni” before a dying battle. This was to comfort their comrades and loved ones that they can still meet again someday after death.
I can speak as an ordinally Japanese man for the majority of us. State Shintoism is no longer believed. People are abhorrent of the imperial time, and really condemn the situation where the militaristic government created and forced the people to engage in a toxic nationalism. Yes, it's also the fault of the citizens who supported the militarism, but at the same time, citizens who wanted to have a normal life were victims of the times they were born in. I don't worship war criminals, and I condemn the wrong path the government has taken in Asia Pacific. But I have visited the shrine and paid sympathy to those who had unwillingly lost their lives in such time, while appreciating the privilege of myself being born in a peaceful time.
As shown on the video, there are ultra right wingers who deny certain atrocities. Because of the nature of the shrine, it has a strong association with ultra nationalists. I don't support them, but they are a minority. Such people are called 'Kyokuu' and people give them a cold start on the streets. Personally I don’t support the politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine during official business from the perspectives of separation of church and state. I understand the sentiments from Korea and China on this shrine. Emperors themselves stopped going to the shrine after the shrine decided to enshrine the class A,B,C criminals in the Tokyo trial. But I don't think any prime ministers who has given a prayer at the shrine supports war criminals. They have explained so as well. If it's private, I think it’s their choice to visit the shrine.
I thought all Japanese people sincerely come to Yasukuni shrine for war criminals. But I think it would be fortunate if the majority of people who come to worship while thinking like you do.
But Japanese worship even though they know that there are war criminals, right? If you want to honor truly innocent victims, you could go to national cemetery. A visitor's review of "Japan exists today because of the victims in the Pacific War" is difficult for Koreans to understand. The Pacific War is just war of aggression.
@@moldkim-z2k Yes, I understand the point of the Korean people too. Like you pointed out, establishing a separate facility may be one solution. That has been proposed by some political parties (e.g. Komei party) to avoid political controversies surrounding class A criminals. Next to the property of shrine, there is a monument dedicated to the nameless soldiers, and some activists claim Japan should expand the facility to build an official Memorial Ceremony for the War Dead. That said, they are not necessarily supporting a state intervention to abolish the shrine / remove the names of war criminals from the point of freedom of religious. Of course we have a ultra right wingers who disagree with this though. But I want to reiterate that people here generally see visiting the shrine as visiting a whole graveyard. It’s ultimately up to the visitor’s choice “who” they would be thinking on their mind. These people are likely thinking of some soldiers who believed they would end up in Yasukuni to meet the loved one after death. There are actually many Koreans, and soldiers from pre-pacific war time who are enshrined too.
@@muuttohaukka0320번역기 돌려서 알아서 보고 답글남겨주세요. 만약 당신이 야스쿠니를 가서 난징대학살이나 위안부, 강제연행, 731부대, 아시아를 해방시키기 위한 전쟁이 아니라 아시아를 침략한 전쟁이고 식민지 운영을 했다고 인정하는지 물어보십시오. 야스쿠니를 참배중인 사람들 중 몇이나 이 사실을 인정할 것 같습니까? 또 당신은 위안부 강제연행에 대해서 인정하십니까? 인정 못한다면 당신이 한 모든 얘기는 변명에 지나지않고 왜 또 일본정부는 사실을 왜곡하려고 하나요?
Interesting to see Japan using the visitation of the shrine to slap the face of the usa, humiliating the usa time and again , while the usa's predictable silence is an expression of guilt over the criminal use of 2 nuclear bombs against japanese civilians
Forgiveness is to move forward, but not to forget is our future peace, we can forgive but never forget
That a real powerful Truth word.
And we should NOT deny that none of this ever happened. Japan is still held accountable of many war crimes that they deny have happened, millions of lives lost in disgusting ways. They need to be held accountable
If you look at Japan a long time ago, you can see how scary militarism. The Japanese people should thank General MacArthur. He is the one who gave democracy to the Japanese people. At that time, 70% of the American people thought that the Japanese emperor should be punished as a war criminal or sentenced to a heavy sentence.
The dead are the dead they can’t change what they did or even apologize they're actions in life were disgusting but in death they are nothing more than ash, ash that left behind families, many of the people shouldn't be celibated but they're families should still have a place mourn
As I have Korean and Chinese friends who have great grandparents who were victimized by the Japanese empirial army I've been told of atrocities commited but holding on to the hate rooted in the past ends up hurting everyone not justbthe original victims my condolences to anyone who may have experienced or anyone who's family may been effected by this issue I hope you all live in peace and prosperity
All killing is criminal no matter what “side” you’re on.
Complete and total non-issue
I visited this shrine yesterday on the last day of my holiday to Japan for the first time. It’s a very ordinary shrine. Really not worth all the fuss.
Yasukuni Shrine is not a shrine that enshrines only war criminals such as Hideki Tojo. There is a book in which all the names of the war dead from the Boshin War to World War IIThe writing of the names in the ledger book is an act of enshrinement.
Therefore, there is no special monument enshrining anyone, not only Hideki Tojo.(There is a bronze statue of Masujiro Omura, but it is not enshrined.)In the Japanese Shinto religion, there is a belief that everyone is equal in death, so even the hated Tojo, who caused the death of 3 million Japanese, is treated equally by the Japanese.
How about the museum beside that shrine?
This is why that when it comes to nation who admits that their past is wrong and have a self-responsible that they should not let that happen again, Germany has my respect. A lot of people are
They don't shy away to those things. They can be both proud of their culture and tradition while at the same time, they are not denying their past mistakes
Another funny Korean. First of all, no Japanese admits the past is wrong. Those who are enshrined in Yasukuni are A-class war heroes. Koreans don't need to behave so much like the slaves of the West adopting the Western criteria. Self-responsible??? The Japanese will do that again if they need to, don't think as if they regret it. PM Kishida is now expanding Japan's military, and the Chinese empire is trying to invade Taiwan, South China Sea and conquer the world, it's the same as the 1930s.
Germans are being replaced and taught to hate themselves because of this guilt based muh responsibility culture. No one should hate their own race.
Germany will not have a culture, or traditions because of their self-hatred, guilt, and tarnished international image based on the mistakes of their ancestors.
Germany is by definition a land mass inhabited by Germans. Deutschland translated is German-nation. This is the area of land allotted to the German people because of history, but more importantly this is the land for them to preserve their language, culture, and traditions. At what point does Germany not become Germany anymore. Is it when 10% are not culturally, linguistically, or genetically German? Is it 20%, maybe 60%? The beauty of the world is in its cultures, and peoples. Much like with paint when you mix two much blue in your red it is no longer red. When you mix all your colors together you lost all your colors but one. Unfortunately, this is the current state of affairs especially in Germany.
@@leviturner3265 Your text is on point 👍
And now they support Israel
It's not a dedication to war crimes, its dedication to men who died for their country and their families, as a former service member I must respect another warrior.
You're misinformed. Regular Japanese soldiers are NOT buried there. Only the Japanese leaders who caused the wars are buried there (including 998 war criminals). So it's a dedication to their war crimes. Also it's NOT a cemetery. It's a shrine and war museum. Most regular people avoid that place. Only Japanese politicians, Japan war crime deniers and ultra-nationalists flock to that place.
Would YOU consider the SS or Poutine's Boys to be WARRIORS?
They're visiting the shrine and praying for peace when they are the ones who started the war
There's a reason why the current emperor doesn't visit Yasukuni Shrine.
There's a reason why the emperor wasn't charged at all.
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 Oh look, it's the liars who are here to misinform people
I'm honestly tired of China's demagogue propaganda. I would like historical researchers from Japan and China to get together and have a thorough discussion about stories such as the Nanjing Incident and the 30 million people who died in China due to the Japanese invasion, by publicly broadcasting them to the world. All the people who see it can decide for themselves what is true and what is a lie.
All those crudely fabricated stories and propaganda are also made by Hollywood Zionists. You can not solve it unless you deal with Zionist America.
There are no bones or bodies in Yasukuni. It just has a soul. Do you understand that?
Everyone knows that the postwar Tokyo Trials were revenge trials and were unfair. If not, why would the Allies be the judges? Why aren't the Allies being held accountable for massacring civilians with nuclear bombs? Yasukuni Shrine is a place where the heroes who fought for Japan are enshrined.
Well, if the shrine commemorate those common soldiers who died because of their leaders fault, I, as a Chinese, respect that. But now? I won’t spare my spits.
What is the definition of war crimes? The USA used two nuclear bombs, killing more than 100k civilians in Japan, but no one has ever been convicted of war crimes. The world sees what is happening in Gaza, and no one calls it a war crime.
Israel, like Japan before it, is engaged in genocide
Its only a war crime if you lose. Remember that folks
Leave the shrine alone it commenerates there dead it was a sad time in history are countries have done bad things as well. We just should not forget are history and destroying the shrine is erasing history which is wrong.
There is so many japanese bootlickers here.😮
People tend to ignore the fact that they are war criminals simply because they lost the war. Literally every army general in any country committed murders on civilians during WWII.
Touché. Just don’t say that to the Allies.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_man_killing_contest which country do this in ww2 beside japan?
Dresden. That was a war crime.
@@khalidalali186Who were literal colonialists. 😂😂
They wiped out entire continents and still deny or straight up mock the dead. And they somehow think they have the moral high ground to talk about Japan's past.
"After the war, Fuchida was called on to testify at the trials of some of the Japanese military for Japanese war crimes. This infuriated him, as he believed this was little more than "victors' justice". In the spring of 1947, convinced that the U.S. had treated the Japanese the same way and determined to bring that evidence to the next trial, Fuchida went to Uraga Harbor near Yokosuka to meet a group of returning Japanese prisoners of war. He was surprised to find his former flight engineer, Kazuo Kanegasaki, who all had believed had died in the Battle of Midway. When questioned, Kanegasaki told Fuchida that they were not tortured or abused, much to Fuchida's surprise. He then went on to tell him of a young lady, Peggy Covell, who served them with the deepest love and respect, but whose missionary parents had been killed by Japanese soldiers on the island of Panay in the Philippines.
For Fuchida, this was inexplicable, as in the Bushido code revenge was not only permitted, it was "a responsibility" for an offended party to carry out revenge to restore honor. The murderer of one's parents would be a sworn enemy for life. He became almost obsessed trying to understand why anyone would treat their enemies with love and forgiveness."
It's pretty much widely documented that civilians and POWs were treated far more humanely by the allies than by the Japanese, excluding the Russians for obvious reasons.
Obviously we can see this fact. The truth is there's nothing wrong with that. First of all, as a Sacerdos I believe that one should not criticize religions and their affairs that one does not understand. Secondly, this Shinto shrine has neither a spiritual tablet nor a cemetery. Only the roster. My logic tells me that this is not worshiping criminals. Third, even after World War II there were still far more serious crimes committed by many people in many countries. In the Soviet Union, China, France or the Middle East and Southeast Asia, these men who committed more serious crimes were literally worshiped, and their memorials and statues still stand in those countries. I don't think I know enough about the situation in every country, but I know Japan, and I know that the people in this country are kind and repentant.
After all,🇯🇵 does not prohibit people from knowing the facts like some 😒countries do, and we can talk to Japanese people at any time.
you barely seeing youths in japan
In addition to Yasukuni, the graves of deceased Japanese soldiers are located in the cemeteries where they were born and raised. Since Yasukuni is far away, we visit the graves of soldiers in nearby cemeteries.
Yasukuni Shrine is a place to honor those who have died in the line of duty since 1868. Not only in the Pacific War, people who served Japan are enshrined in Yasukuni Shrine after their death. Too many people misunderstand the meaning of the existence of Yasukuni Shrine in the first place.
To one its their war heroes while to the other its their war criminals
If their fathers are empire founders; warlords; mafia godfathers; and multi millionaires; their fathers are war criminals but rich and powerful; and left them a huge estate. Their feeling must be very complicate. In the end, they are still families. it’s all about the memorial for their fathers; whatever they did.
Tbh I don't think it matters these countries are just targeting the shrine
China makes it controversial, not Japan. It's the China's interference of the overseas affairs. China, being an Atheist country with Communism, they cannot fathom anything beyond money and materialism. That's the fact about Chinese Communism. Hypocritical.
所以你看见上帝了？
China is not communist. China is a Confucian and Taoist country. And there is no creator in Taoism and Confucianism. Chinese religion is atheistic because according to Taoism and Buddhism, there is no creator who created the universe. It has nothing to do with communism. And China is the most visited country in the world. Japan is not in the top 30 most visited countries in the world
Let’s just blatantly ignore the whole Korean speech segment right?
You intentionally forget about Korean ? Western bot.
Korea, Singapore, Malaysia and various other SEA countries were ignored by your lord somehow.
Yasukuni >>>>> Comfort Women
Japanese average level
死者に対する考えが違う。
死者じゃなくて、罪人だろう？
罪人かどうかはともかく、死者でしょう。
@@crimson_koi1092
しょうがないよ日本の文化に対する考え方なんか絶対理解出来ないしそもそもしようともしないし、今海外の人達は日本を批判するのに精一杯なんだよw
Correct me if I'm wrong but Japan never had to defend itself with only one exception, the Mongolian invasion. So, all those burried there were fallen on foreign lands, as part of n invasion force, no ?
This is clearly bullying . A shrine is just a shrine nothing more or less . China invaded and ruled Vietnam for like 1000 years and still want to do it , especially Taiwan right now is on the plate , did they show any remorse or stop doing it ? Nope
A shrine (for war criminals) is just a shrine (for war criminals) nothing more or less.
Here fixed it for ya
@@thecrab3128 50 Cent Army spotted
@@SolidGoldWatch cool, you expect a medal for that or smth
And weeb detected…since u love Japan so much ye named ur ac name after the country,how’s ur daily Japanese practice going?Go home
Japan has their own mindset, beliefs and values, I believe many Japanese are questioning the Yasukuni shrine too, but it's difficult. You honor the fallen soldiers who fought for the country indiscriminately. They were writers, bus drivers, office workers, musicians, criminals, beggars or playboys, rich or poor, whatever. They're honored indiscriminately at this Shrine. It's also a point of view.
that's funny. japanese and history? lol. every time i see any japanese history "expert" and "teacher", i always doubt them with a laugh. now that's parody
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I've no idea what your point is. I didn't even mention history or anything about it. Either you expand your opinion, so it has a form and logic, or just don't react at all. "First doubt, then inquire, then discover" -Henry T. Buckle. Your problem is that you're stuck at doubt, and you shoot blank shots here for something that isn't even there.
@@reisen1932 look at that. a japanese DENYING something i say about history. typical. lol.
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I see, you're trolling here. 🤔 That's why you're uttering nonsense, no wonder. I'm from Germany by the way. Funny how you think you're outsmarting people here. Hier, du brauchst Ginkgo Biloba, du hast wesentlich nicht genug, alter Schwede 😂.
some visitors probably honor some distant relative. it makes sense to have a place like that.
Japan's government hasn't yet forgotten their glory days, they are waiting for a rebirth of their nation no longer under the strong arm of the U.S. but i doubt that will happen in our lifetime
I used to teach at a private school right next door to here. I’d always see police around there.
The scars of my grandparents in from the past is still imminent. The amount of damage the Japanese has done to Southeast Asia is unprecedented and still hurts today, especially to the "comfort women" in my country who is still deprived of benefits
It is certain that Japan today is the most peaceful and safe country in the world, with no wars. There are some idiots who claim that the Japanese military is the same as the Nazis, but the fact that Japan is more developed and peaceful than that idiot's country is interesting.
Bru they almost conquered China they have my respect
The Yasukuni Shrine is one of the most beautiful sacred places in the world. I've visited every year since I moved to Tokyo.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
It's really a lovely place except for the disgusting revisionist exhibition in the building next to the shrine
Yikes.
@@siberianresort5722
Shouldn't pandas like you who are fooled by Chinese propaganda learn history for once? lol
It's honestly a rather nice museum
I find it hypocritical on the side of China to call out Japan to honor treaties when they themselves won't honor UNCLOS and continue aggressive action in disputed waters claiming sovereignty on a fantasy called 10-dash line (yes, they added another line). Same goes to South Korea where a significant number of the Japanese Imperial Army in WW2 were Koreans and took part in committing atrocities.
In my case, the past gives me peace and the present makes me worry about the future.
Japanese are ignorant of their war crimes
Welp doesn't seems like a new thing mate xD
@user-kw4dr8gd2t Nobody believes your Japanese propaganda except for the Japanese.
@@parodynet3004 And nobody believes the history of the CCP rewritten to hide atrocities against its citizens.
No matter what you think the Chinese don't a f about your opinion they living a peaceful life
@user-kw4dr8gd2t western bot, you forget Korean. Try harder.
It's not anyone's fault, I just pray that we never fight this war again.
@dellyspice it's your idea Because the culture and history are complex, it cannot be shared by other ethnic groups.
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There's also 'Yasukuni Shrine' in indonesia, some 3000 japanese soldiers stayed in here to fight against the return of the Dutch, the fallen japanese soldier enshrined as hero in indonesia, and every japanese prime minister and emperor have visited the soldiers grave.
The the japanese controlled indonesia 😂
That’s more in line with the so called “ Japanese co-prosperity sphere” where imperial Japan also wanted to create an impression they are eliminating white colonialism from Asia, so clearly on a micro scale i don’t doubt many soldiers believed and died for it. The big picture remains though, as The “ liberated” nations 😂
@@TheLooking4sunset it would not change the fact that they helped the indonesian defend their homeland from dutch invasion, at least they are doing something better than helping the dutch or do nothing at all.
@@lordtouchme77 But may I ask why Japanese Soldiers were on the soil of Indonesia in the first place?
@@thecrab3128 i can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but if you are curious then google is your friend.
And just like confederate statues in America, this shrine will have to come down after they realize and truly reflect on its true meaning.
I believe that visiting Yasukuni just reminds us painfully of all that has happened in the past so that we can improve upon ourselves
That’s easy to say if you’re not one of those whose ancestors were amongst the countless innocents mercilessly slaughtered by the Japanese military. The acts carried out by the Japanese during world war 2 to fellow humans are beyond monstrousity.
No world leader visit Yasukuni shrine when they visit Japan like in other countries when they visit because there are 14 WW2 war criminals buried with 2.5 millions other Japanese who were drafted to serve their country. If I was Japanese, I would want to remove these 14 war criminals from Yasukuni shrine to honor rest of Japanese who fought for their country. Also there will be less headache with criticism from other countries for cleaner image for Japan. But Japanese government is refusing to do that. Compare to other countries, Japanese do not form social groups to criticize their government when they are doing wrong. Maybe about 5,000-10,000 at most with 122 million people which can't change anything. If it was S Korea, there would be millions gather to change leadership. It's no surprise that cherry blossom scandal can't be fixed in Japan. In the past, maybe 10 Japanese government officials visited Yasukuni shrine but now days about 100 because they are getting exposures from S Korean and Chinese media which Japanese media carry over information inside Japan which benefits these Japanese officials from Japanese right wing during election. It seems no Japanese are questioning their motive for visiting Yasukuni shrine. If some government officials with their family member buried there then that is understandable but if they are visiting Yasukuni shrine for pure publication to benefit their election cause then it should be publicized for Japanese public. Most issues between S Korea and Japan can be solved peacefully if both side have open minded with other culture little better. I like to see more exchange student program between S Korea and Japan for better understanding of other culture. To Korean, Dokdo is historical issue but for Japanese it's technical issue regarding territory. Most Japanese don't understand that both North and South Koreans will go total war with Japan to protect Dokdo because occupation for Korea in 1900 started with Dokdo. When Japan tried to claimed Dokdo in 1900, hands were tied for Korean government to stop it. Dokdo is historical symbol for Korean sovereign territory and millions of Koreans will sacrifice their life to defend it which Japanese don't understand.
Japanese Heisenberg isn’t real, he can’t hurt you
Hideki Tojo :
German Oppenheimer isnt real.
Heisenberg: And I took that personally!
In fact, there are a lot of political factors in the Yasukuni Shrine. Why did the Prime Minister visit the shrine? What benefits have you gained? Right-wing votes? The downside is to anger China and South Korea. Think about it carefully, because Japan regards invading other countries as defending its own country
Yes yes, nice talk about how Mr Mao’s past too bruh. His little fantasies & how he really erased the region & culture of those times. Now China has become culture-less having to revisit the dynasties to relearn history.
Lill bruh said culture less 😂 60% of japanses culture and language was copied from China they were a chinses vassal state to China for 2000 years everything they know about the world was thanks to China. Lill bruh still speaks in a downgraded copycat version of chinses you call japanses calling me culture less😂 learn history instead of cope pls
That's nothing to do with Japanese war crimes! Two wrong don't make one right.
I bet you have as much experience with china as zenz 😂🖕
Except you are allowed to criticize Mao in China, most Chinese Communist Party member nowadays disassociate themself from Mao and consider Mao's decision in his later years to be detrimental, despite his heroic achievement in his early years.
@@exelenxius5832 criticize Mao in China, you dead meat bruh…..
i like Yasukuni
I don't have any feelings about it. Many temples and ancestral halls in China have this phenomenon. For example, Guan Yu was actually the perpetrator of the ultimate war crime. Many of the soldiers on war memorials around the world have committed more serious crimes. These are the people who blame Japan. Their double standards are disgusting🤮
There is a thing called international law, which is the set of rules, norms, and standards generally recognised as binding between states.
Have some common sense!
@@joezhou5542 There is a law here called: 《中華人民共和國計算機信息網絡國際聯網管理暫行規定》第六條
This law indicates that your access is prohibited.
@@joezhou5542 Das größte Problem des Rechts besteht darin, dass es die Geschichte nicht beurteilen kann. Aber Moral kann es. Ihre moralischen Maßstäbe basieren also auf Gesetzen, die sich ständig ändern?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Silly Timmy really comparing a historical / mythical character from 2000 years ago to post-modern criminals according to international law🤣
@@crimson_koi1092 Crime does not diminish with time. Worshiping ancient war criminals is tantamount to endorsing their crimes. What's more, no country on earth abides by the so-called international law. What is the difference between the treatment of those PLA and Americans who massacred Vietnamese civilians and the Yasukuni Shrine? Even if the Americans try them in military courts, those PLA are called the so-called heroes of the country. Let us see that Japan has not participated in any war for seventy years, but the same appalling crime was committed again after World War II by the righteousjust when the war was end.
There should be no controversial, Japan honours their dead.
And it is done in a certain time frame. The controversial is not from inside of Japan, it comes from the outside.
「いかなる国家も、その国家のために死んだ戦士に対して、敬意を払う権利と義務があると言える。それは、戦勝国か、敗戦国かを問わず、平等の真理でなければならない。」
By Bruno Bitter
독일이 히틀러 참배하는 수준입니다....
@@sickofit-12
한국국가 '애국가' 작곡자 안익태는 나치를 위해 음악 활동을 했다고 합니다.
"안익태, 나치와 긴밀한 관계 맺어왔다"
The shrine isn’t necessarily the problem, it’s the fact that they refuse to distinguish between regular Japanese soldiers and war criminals, since distinguishing would be seen as an admission of guilt in WW2
Seeing chinese tourist know a days creating nuisance at other country, a well as China aggressiveness towards its neighbour, made me think having this Shrine exist is not bad afterall.
Yasukuni Shrine also worships Japanese war criminals who committed war crimes and massacres in SE Asia.
China weren't the only nation to suffer under Japan.
Let me tell yall something, they don't care
Nothing controversial every country celebrates it's heroes. One's heroes are another's villians. We can't celebrate any historical figure if the criteria is consensus of all. Also most visitors seem to be visiting only for knowledge & praying for peace
Yup. Respect them!
Music too loud barely hear the person telling a story
The Koreans serving the Imperial Japanese Army are the one who committed these crimes.
If you don’t pay attention to history, you’re doomed to repeat it…
What warcrime class do you get for dropping an atomic bomb on a heavily populated civilian target?
First class.
you can have mr predoiu and mr iohannis explaining. whom else?
It was a bit hypocritical of China to talk about military aggression when today they are doing it to their neighbors right now!
The shrine houses very expensive breast implants from the Tokugawa Era.
China also need to give up Tibet.
They also removed Japanese VA for visiting the shrine in a mobile game call Arknight of a character called " Platnium"
Yeah, that’s very ashamed of Ai Kayano.
If I am like them invading China and I have relatives lives there. I wouldn’t be called a “Hero.” That’s what my dad told me.
To visit a shrine is wrong but to build military bases in South China Sea in present day is not imperialism / act of aggression for Chinese leadership... wow.
America, Britain, China, and Dutch so-called "ABCD Encirclement" which insists the South China Sea is Chinese territory, colonizing SE Asia, and then blocking the Japanese who are trying to get SE Asia for resources, and attacking the Japanese by Flying Tigers troops of America is not imperialism, but the Japanese tried to go through the ABCD Blockage is an aggression....wow, what a logic!
You are speaking as if China is insisting on it now, but it is not true. The ABCD insisted on it a century ago, China drew the 9-dash lines a century ago, and the consistent attack on the Japanese by the ABCD subsequently led to the Pearl Harbour Attack. And you're ranting it's a sneak attack! What incapable creatures get brainwashed so deeply.....wow
China is the Imperial Japan of the 21st century, that much has been established. Your statement however, is whataboutism. Both China and Japan have done/are doing horrible things are the leadership is too childish to acknowledge it.
Berlin bout to open the SS memorial for those who died in service to Germany