“Have you realized that most of your unhappiness in life is due to the fact that you are listening to yourself instead of talking to yourself? Take those thoughts that come to you the moment you wake up in the morning. You have not originated them but they are talking to you, they bring back the problems of yesterday, etc. Somebody is talking. Who is talking to you? Your self is talking to you. Now this man’s treatment [in Psalm 42] was this: instead of allowing this self to talk to him, he starts talking to himself. “Why art thou cast down, O my soul?” he asks. His soul had been depressing him, crushing him. So he stands up and says, “Self, listen for moment, I will speak to you.” ― Martyn-Lloyd Jones Hearing this MLJ quote forever changed my life because i stopped listening to myself and started talking to myself instead. Satan is the enemy in our heads trying to keep us down.
What a great talk, the fact I could pay attention all along even with my ADD shows how great it is 🤭👏 Well the reason might be ADHD people talk the way other ADHD people find it interesting 😆 (There are many by neurotypicals that are sooo slooow I turn them off even they would be useful 😅 But this! This stayed engaging till the end) Thank you🙏
I was laying in bed nervous about I would struggle to start my day today and put this video on. As soon as I heard him say meditation I rolled my eyes and lost interest. But I'm so glad I continued to listen because as he went on, I did the breath work alongside them and I've reached the end of the video sitting up, doing my hair which I've been putting off for so long. Didn't think about it too much, just got up and started doing it. Defo going to keep these techniques in mind when overthinking and executive dysfunction wants to kick in!
The most insightful, interesting, and most importantly helpful thing I've ever watched with regards coping with ADHD to date, and also some invaluable advice for life in general! I tried the breath work techniques suggested - wow, eye opening. Building up to the cold shower though 🙈. Loved the insights on career choice and historic anecdotes . Just brilliant! Thank you both. Feeling more hopeful now. Mel
"We dont really fit in very well to the box that was created 12k years ago.. finding a way to creating a box that we fit in is hard!" What a line! Thanks for creating awareness, people like you will help to create and shape that box!
I am still undiagnosed with ADHD, but I have all of the traits and my wife is sure I have it. She has supported young people with ADHD for years and agrees that I have it. I am now managing my life with lots of access to information sources.
I like the mantra of Logan Nibelungens from the First Law series “Still alive”. Its a checkin, a validation and an acknowledgement of all the shit that you have lived through all in one😊
Step number one for sure. Step number two be free to live a life that’s authentic to who we are and not be coercively controlled by other people our entire lives
I really love this discussion. I have been feeling horrible for the past month because a therapist suggested i have this. But i am researching, and it seems clear i have a couple symptoms. It felt like a death sentence and a label that will ruin my life, but i realize that its a way that i can readdress how i treat my mind and self. Finding tools to live in a modern world is important for me now. And adjust my lifestyle now so i can exist without feeling like i am not successful.
@Dancestar1981 for real, I've been learning how to adapt and change for the way I think. So far I've made more than I ever have this year compared to my past years, but I have debt.
Wow - Joseph has described my events of June 2023 exactly. I was in A&E 15 months ago and I had 18 of those deja-vu seizures between 8pm and noon the following day and my BP was through the roof. I had been drinking loads and loads of Diet Coke - of course, again packed with caffeine and I dare say other stuff. They gave me brain scans and found nothing and the neurologist was devoid of explanation and just said it was the start of epilepsy at the age of 69 - I had no idea I had ADHD then, putting down my symptoms to loneliness and depression. I didn't believe him with his vague epilepsy diagnosis which I thought was a lame and unproven guess on his part - I have a bioscience degree and between leaving A&E and seeing the neurologist a week later, I had read a load of scientific papers on deja vu experiences but none linked it to ADHD . But I DID stop drinking Diet Coke and changed my diet and have not had another of those Deja Vu episodes (which were terrifying) since. I don't drink more than 2 mugs of coffee in a day now. The most interesting thing is each episode t was accompanied by having a phantom smell before the deja vu incident and then the head-spinning that lasted about 10 seconds - it was the same in each episode. They seemed to be every 50-70 minutes apart except when I managed to sleep in the A&E waiting room. I also take Amlodipine at a very low dose and I kept asking for a tablet and by noon, they finally relented and the episodes stopped - and of course, I was no longer glugging down Diet Coke cans like there was no tomorrow. They kept me in for another 24 hours and in the end, I self-certified my release after having the MRI scans and said i would happily come back the next day to see an neurologist but again, they were refusing to give me the Amlodipine, my blood thinners and statin - I was worried it might bring on another bout of episodes but it didn't but they finally relented but heck they did their damnedest to keep me in. but I have has no episodes since. I did buy a 2 litre bottle of Diet Coke about a month ago and drank about half the bottle to try ot keep me awake when I was video editing and I felt I had the start of another deja-vu episode but it didn't have any of the disorientation or phantom smell but I knew enough to not drink any more coke and glug down a load of water. So now, I am 99% sure I too and far too responsive to caffeine (95% chance) and possibly even aspartame (5% chance) I had 3 of these episodes in 2004 about 3 weeks apart and then they stopped. I put it down to taking citalopram which I immediately discontinued and didn't get another for for 21 years later, but i will never ever forget the damn phantom smell but generally, I have a highly responsive olfactory system and can normally smell scents at much lower concentrations than other people I know. I also get headaches if I am in a room full of men that are drinking or excitable which I have by trial and error put down to my being affected by inhaling male pheromones. My episodes in 2023 were when it was very warm indeed and I had been eating erratically with an unusually high carb intake. It is only in the past 2 months at the prompting of my CBT therapist during the penultimate session of NHS Talking Therapies did she suggest i seek a diagnosis since she said it would seem I am displaying far too many classic ADHD symptoms incl racing mind and terrible RSD. Since then, watching your podcast, every person on your show, Alex, describes the very same experiences and challenges I have faced all my life and now i am 70. In order to try to keep myself busy since I live alone, I have tried to get my YT channel going but I go into bouts of terrible feelings of failure that are inhibiting me from recording new videos or more often editing videos I have already done. My ADHD was telling me I was going to be immediately successful but that has not been the case and it is hard to re-adjust to having to do it all so darned slowly hahaha.
So insightful! Especially love the conversation about labeling. We just talked about shifting that paradigm from viewing it as something "wrong" as something "different" on the most recent episode of our podcast. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Fantastic!!! Another biggie is this self awareness!!! Know-body can watch you as well as you can watch yourself. Because you’re the only one that can see how you react to that food, situation, activity and/or person. i.e you slow down, lose focus, gain focus or speed up! Self awareness = what you see about yourself + what others say about you + becoming aware of hearing what other people with attention and hyperactivity problems are going through so it sheds some light on your own blind spots!
Alex thanks for asking about the kids. My daughter has just gone into secondary and the amount of sitting still and sedentary learning is not right for any kid and if they are disruptive they put them in a room to sit still and learn alone! It doesn’t occur to let them run around or move. Crazy.
My mind has been so spun up that this has been a typical day in my life, multiple times a day: A thought will jump into my mind that's negative or scary and it feels like a jolt of electricity strikes my stomach and chest, and my body responds by me freezing, holding my breath and my heart rate skyrockets. Then I will sit in the anxiety, like a frog in boiling hot water, just sitting in it. 😢 This. Is. Torture. Mental and emotional torture. Meditation has changed my life!! I always assumed due to my ADHD, that I couldn't do meditation. NOPE! ❤❤❤ I hope anyone who reads this will know: you are NOT broken, you are uniquely YOU!
It does shame NDISin Australia won’t fund all the required therapy us neurodivergent adults need for our everyday physical and mental health and wellbeing like they were originally as they are discriminating against us illegally.
I would caution those who are really burnt out to be wary of doing cold plunges. It’s too much for the adrenals to handle, until they are healed, which takes at least a year.
I didn't do homework either, I didn't get any passes in my GCSE's, I also picked up pebbles and threw them at a window on my walk home from school as a kid, I did it a couple times and I didn't think of how it might feel to the people experiencing in it and I stopped doing it but not down to any feeling others than It just went out my mind and I didn't do it anymore, it's why we like novelty but once we have done it we are bored and seek something else new
Homework is overrated anyway. I have dual diagnosis of ASD and Combined ADHD with multiple comorbidities and was forced to do excessive amounts of unnecessary homework far too early in my academic career. The anxiety caused by other’s expectations on me has been detrimental to my overall mental and physical health and wellbeing over my lifespan.
It's a neurodevelopmental condition/disorder affecting the pre-frontal cortex which affects the executive function abilities and the working memory hence why I forget what I just read, said and did and am going to do and why I'm very in the moment but also can be unaware of my surroundings as I completely focus on who i'm talking to or even when by myself I can forget where i'm going and when someone asks me for directions if it's not simple then I won't be able to do it as I find it so hard to think and plan ahead, I could get there on foot but to actually imagine the directions in my mind is very challenging, it also affects me with keeping a job and communicating with family, friends, colleagues, anyone so yes it's a disorder and yes for some it's a debilitating condition
I can’t give directions to places to save my life part of my complex mathematics and spatial disabilities on top of my other multiple diagnoses. I joke I have more letters after my name than specialist doctors due to being neurodivergent
That’s totally my parenting style. I’ve had to really learn to not give any fucks because the hardest part of parenting is other’s opinions. Also, unfortunately, my granny forced me to take up cooking and sewing classes and I believe that was the best thing she could have made me do. Funny how that worked out
Where I live only Ritalin is available and it does nothing for me except give me anxiety and all other drugs aren’t allowed even Vyvanse. Having it untreated is a mess.
Much of this is basically the Wim Hof method. Box breathing has been around for ages. I'm not arguing that the information isn't useful, but it's not original.
He didn't day he thought/made these techniques up. I am aware of them due to being into yoga...but lots don't know...I'm so surprised at how my boyfriend breathes, so shallow and no stomach breath at all. This is new news to some people and also how it benifits adhd.
Are you looking for ADHD guests for the channel? I'd be interested in the near future in sharing my experience, although it's still on going journey, I have conquered it yet but I'm trying many things
Do you need time stamps for detailed sections and then those summarised. I’m not sure how to do it but I’m sure there are people on here who could do that to help you?
“Have you realized that most of your unhappiness in life is due to the fact that you are listening to yourself instead of talking to yourself? Take those thoughts that come to you the moment you wake up in the morning. You have not originated them but they are talking to you, they bring back the problems of yesterday, etc. Somebody is talking. Who is talking to you? Your self is talking to you. Now this man’s treatment [in Psalm 42] was this: instead of allowing this self to talk to him, he starts talking to himself. “Why art thou cast down, O my soul?” he asks. His soul had been depressing him, crushing him. So he stands up and says, “Self, listen for moment, I will speak to you.”
― Martyn-Lloyd Jones
Hearing this MLJ quote forever changed my life because i stopped listening to myself and started talking to myself instead. Satan is the enemy in our heads trying to keep us down.
Quickly becoming one of my new fave podcasts!
Wow thanks!
What a great talk, the fact I could pay attention all along even with my ADD shows how great it is 🤭👏
Well the reason might be ADHD people talk the way other ADHD people find it interesting 😆 (There are many by neurotypicals that are sooo slooow I turn them off even they would be useful 😅 But this! This stayed engaging till the end)
Thank you🙏
Wow thanks! I’m constantly trying to improve and make it digestible for the great ADHD minds out there watching ❤
Fancy after having seizures someone prescribing him meds that would actually make his seizures worse🙄 chocolate fire guard springs to mind.
I was laying in bed nervous about I would struggle to start my day today and put this video on. As soon as I heard him say meditation I rolled my eyes and lost interest. But I'm so glad I continued to listen because as he went on, I did the breath work alongside them and I've reached the end of the video sitting up, doing my hair which I've been putting off for so long. Didn't think about it too much, just got up and started doing it. Defo going to keep these techniques in mind when overthinking and executive dysfunction wants to kick in!
The most insightful, interesting, and most importantly helpful thing I've ever watched with regards coping with ADHD to date, and also some invaluable advice for life in general! I tried the breath work techniques suggested - wow, eye opening. Building up to the cold shower though 🙈. Loved the insights on career choice and historic anecdotes . Just brilliant! Thank you both. Feeling more hopeful now. Mel
Thanks so much! So happy you found it useful ❤
I AM SAFE is my mantra. My inner critic is LOUD and this is helping quieten the voice.
"We dont really fit in very well to the box that was created 12k years ago.. finding a way to creating a box that we fit in is hard!" What a line! Thanks for creating awareness, people like you will help to create and shape that box!
I am still undiagnosed with ADHD, but I have all of the traits and my wife is sure I have it. She has supported young people with ADHD for years and agrees that I have it. I am now managing my life with lots of access to information sources.
I like the mantra of Logan Nibelungens from the First Law series
“Still alive”.
Its a checkin, a validation and an acknowledgement of all the shit that you have lived through all in one😊
I think ADHD requires us to be EXTRA self aware
We really don't have a choice.
Step number one for sure. Step number two be free to live a life that’s authentic to who we are and not be coercively controlled by other people our entire lives
Without doubt one of the best podcasts I’ve listened to regarding how to calm , assist with focus and understanding the triggers.
Top work 👌👍
So happy to hear that.
Major Triggers arseholes stopping my needs getting met every single time
Thank you for all the work and for this insightful conversation!
I really love this discussion. I have been feeling horrible for the past month because a therapist suggested i have this. But i am researching, and it seems clear i have a couple symptoms.
It felt like a death sentence and a label that will ruin my life, but i realize that its a way that i can readdress how i treat my mind and self.
Finding tools to live in a modern world is important for me now.
And adjust my lifestyle now so i can exist without feeling like i am not successful.
Society isn’t built for us it’s time to create our own
@Dancestar1981 for real, I've been learning how to adapt and change for the way I think. So far I've made more than I ever have this year compared to my past years, but I have debt.
Homework is Physical Painful 🤢 Excellent Podcast 🔥
Wow - Joseph has described my events of June 2023 exactly. I was in A&E 15 months ago and I had 18 of those deja-vu seizures between 8pm and noon the following day and my BP was through the roof. I had been drinking loads and loads of Diet Coke - of course, again packed with caffeine and I dare say other stuff. They gave me brain scans and found nothing and the neurologist was devoid of explanation and just said it was the start of epilepsy at the age of 69 - I had no idea I had ADHD then, putting down my symptoms to loneliness and depression. I didn't believe him with his vague epilepsy diagnosis which I thought was a lame and unproven guess on his part - I have a bioscience degree and between leaving A&E and seeing the neurologist a week later, I had read a load of scientific papers on deja vu experiences but none linked it to ADHD .
But I DID stop drinking Diet Coke and changed my diet and have not had another of those Deja Vu episodes (which were terrifying) since. I don't drink more than 2 mugs of coffee in a day now. The most interesting thing is each episode t was accompanied by having a phantom smell before the deja vu incident and then the head-spinning that lasted about 10 seconds - it was the same in each episode. They seemed to be every 50-70 minutes apart except when I managed to sleep in the A&E waiting room. I also take Amlodipine at a very low dose and I kept asking for a tablet and by noon, they finally relented and the episodes stopped - and of course, I was no longer glugging down Diet Coke cans like there was no tomorrow. They kept me in for another 24 hours and in the end, I self-certified my release after having the MRI scans and said i would happily come back the next day to see an neurologist but again, they were refusing to give me the Amlodipine, my blood thinners and statin - I was worried it might bring on another bout of episodes but it didn't but they finally relented but heck they did their damnedest to keep me in. but I have has no episodes since.
I did buy a 2 litre bottle of Diet Coke about a month ago and drank about half the bottle to try ot keep me awake when I was video editing and I felt I had the start of another deja-vu episode but it didn't have any of the disorientation or phantom smell but I knew enough to not drink any more coke and glug down a load of water. So now, I am 99% sure I too and far too responsive to caffeine (95% chance) and possibly even aspartame (5% chance)
I had 3 of these episodes in 2004 about 3 weeks apart and then they stopped. I put it down to taking citalopram which I immediately discontinued and didn't get another for for 21 years later, but i will never ever forget the damn phantom smell but generally, I have a highly responsive olfactory system and can normally smell scents at much lower concentrations than other people I know. I also get headaches if I am in a room full of men that are drinking or excitable which I have by trial and error put down to my being affected by inhaling male pheromones.
My episodes in 2023 were when it was very warm indeed and I had been eating erratically with an unusually high carb intake.
It is only in the past 2 months at the prompting of my CBT therapist during the penultimate session of NHS Talking Therapies did she suggest i seek a diagnosis since she said it would seem I am displaying far too many classic ADHD symptoms incl racing mind and terrible RSD. Since then, watching your podcast, every person on your show, Alex, describes the very same experiences and challenges I have faced all my life and now i am 70.
In order to try to keep myself busy since I live alone, I have tried to get my YT channel going but I go into bouts of terrible feelings of failure that are inhibiting me from recording new videos or more often editing videos I have already done. My ADHD was telling me I was going to be immediately successful but that has not been the case and it is hard to re-adjust to having to do it all so darned slowly hahaha.
So insightful! Especially love the conversation about labeling. We just talked about shifting that paradigm from viewing it as something "wrong" as something "different" on the most recent episode of our podcast. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Fantastic!!!
Another biggie is this self awareness!!! Know-body can watch you as well as you can watch yourself.
Because you’re the only one that can see how you react to that food, situation, activity and/or person.
i.e you slow down, lose
focus, gain focus or speed up! Self awareness = what you see about yourself + what others say about you + becoming aware of hearing what other people with attention and hyperactivity problems are going through so it sheds some light on your own blind spots!
I am infinitely grateful for your helpful content!❤
Great interview.
Very useful thank you
Great to hear 🎉
Mr. Pack is very intelligent man. GREAT EPISODE!!
thanks so much for your work!
This really resonates with me and is so helpful.Thank you❤
I love this podcast, so helpful!! Thank you
This guy is relaxing
I think leisurely singing, sketching/painting/sculpting, dancing- especially freestyle, all act like Meditation, for me, at least.
Alex thanks for asking about the kids. My daughter has just gone into secondary and the amount of sitting still and sedentary learning is not right for any kid and if they are disruptive they put them in a room to sit still and learn alone! It doesn’t occur to let them run around or move. Crazy.
Happy to hear this helped ❤️
It’s insane I went through the years undiagnosed until last year age 42
My mind has been so spun up that this has been a typical day in my life, multiple times a day:
A thought will jump into my mind that's negative or scary and it feels like a jolt of electricity strikes my stomach and chest, and my body responds by me freezing, holding my breath and my heart rate skyrockets. Then I will sit in the anxiety, like a frog in boiling hot water, just sitting in it. 😢
This. Is. Torture.
Mental and emotional torture.
Meditation has changed my life!! I always assumed due to my ADHD, that I couldn't do meditation.
NOPE! ❤❤❤
I hope anyone who reads this will know: you are NOT broken, you are uniquely YOU!
It does shame NDISin Australia won’t fund all the required therapy us neurodivergent adults need for our everyday physical and mental health and wellbeing like they were originally as they are discriminating against us illegally.
I would caution those who are really burnt out to be wary of doing cold plunges. It’s too much for the adrenals to handle, until they are healed, which takes at least a year.
I didn't do homework either, I didn't get any passes in my GCSE's, I also picked up pebbles and threw them at a window on my walk home from school as a kid, I did it a couple times and I didn't think of how it might feel to the people experiencing in it and I stopped doing it but not down to any feeling others than It just went out my mind and I didn't do it anymore, it's why we like novelty but once we have done it we are bored and seek something else new
Homework is overrated anyway. I have dual diagnosis of ASD and Combined ADHD with multiple comorbidities and was forced to do excessive amounts of unnecessary homework far too early in my academic career. The anxiety caused by other’s expectations on me has been detrimental to my overall mental and physical health and wellbeing over my lifespan.
It's a neurodevelopmental condition/disorder affecting the pre-frontal cortex which affects the executive function abilities and the working memory hence why I forget what I just read, said and did and am going to do and why I'm very in the moment but also can be unaware of my surroundings as I completely focus on who i'm talking to or even when by myself I can forget where i'm going and when someone asks me for directions if it's not simple then I won't be able to do it as I find it so hard to think and plan ahead, I could get there on foot but to actually imagine the directions in my mind is very challenging, it also affects me with keeping a job and communicating with family, friends, colleagues, anyone so yes it's a disorder and yes for some it's a debilitating condition
I can’t give directions to places to save my life part of my complex mathematics and spatial disabilities on top of my other multiple diagnoses. I joke I have more letters after my name than specialist doctors due to being neurodivergent
That’s totally my parenting style. I’ve had to really learn to not give any fucks because the hardest part of parenting is other’s opinions.
Also, unfortunately, my granny forced me to take up cooking and sewing classes and I believe that was the best thing she could have made me do. Funny how that worked out
Where I live only Ritalin is available and it does nothing for me except give me anxiety and all other drugs aren’t allowed even Vyvanse. Having it untreated is a mess.
There's no way i can do adhd without drugs. The drugs are the only things that quiet the horrifying things my brain says to me
Much of this is basically the Wim Hof method. Box breathing has been around for ages. I'm not arguing that the information isn't useful, but it's not original.
Absolutely.
He didn't day he thought/made these techniques up. I am aware of them due to being into yoga...but lots don't know...I'm so surprised at how my boyfriend breathes, so shallow and no stomach breath at all. This is new news to some people and also how it benifits adhd.
Are you looking for ADHD guests for the channel? I'd be interested in the near future in sharing my experience, although it's still on going journey, I have conquered it yet but I'm trying many things
is this addictive?
Paused @ 8:53 ‘MOSS SIDE,’NO!!!! You don’t just walk through there 🙉
Can anyone summarize please😢 i canmot focus
Do you need time stamps for detailed sections and then those summarised. I’m not sure how to do it but I’m sure there are people on here who could do that to help you?
Great - as compare to normal personal we are disorder and for us they are disorder :p
4:30
This is witchcraft 😜💝 I love this simple technique
Sometimes I feel Islam is the best thing for ADHD