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- In a new initiative to attract capable minds, the government has opened up senior-level bureaucratic posts for "talented and motivated" people who have never taken a UPSC exam. The government is looking for 10 "outstanding individuals", even from the private sector. On this edition of 'The Big Picture' we analyse if lateral entry in bureaucracy is a good or bad idea.
Guests - Vivek Katju, Former Ambassador,
Sushil Chandra Tripathi, Former Principal Secretary, Government of U.P.,
Sanjay Kumar, Partner, Deloitte
Anchor: Frank Rausan Pereira
I am an IITian. My professor, Prof. Mukesh Sharma a person of values, who has developed Ambient air quality Index. He says that when he visited the chief secy of Delhi to propose the plans to reduce the ambient air pollution, Mr. Chief Secy was not able to understand him even in simple language. If he doesn't understand professor, how will he take action to implement the policies? If in place of secy, professor would have been there, the condition of Delhi could've been something other way. This is called lateral entry.
Your proffesser exaggerated the scene ..people sitting on top position are not dumb...even finance minister does not know about economics but when she delivers budget speech,it is good because she is taught what is to be done...either your proffesser have not explained him in a better way or he didn't do anything.
Do you think that IAS officers are fools, idiot.......The irony is that people come here and start spreading a next level propaganda, there is a bit difference between a theoretical and practical problems understood....
But do you know lateral entry le nam pe lalu ke bete aur amit shah ke bete chale jayenge seceretry ban ke
@@pkshahi9709 there is scope of missuse everywhere. there are necessary precondition to apply for lateral entry. Like experience and knowledge.
@@namangupta2228 to knowledge hai to cse nikal ke jayiye na
IAS and IFS officers in this debate are more practical than other one.
Why do govt. don't train an IAS officer into a specialist in any particular domain during the period of 10 years from their first posting based upon their area of expertise ?
Avinash Singh because at lower levels the work is multidisciplinary in nature
Because it is more so less the same,
Ias officer have are horizontal knowledge over the subjects and lateral entry means the appointment of the specialist form the private sector.
Because they do want to get such knowledge. Simply want to do the job and enjoy. In private job's revenue officer will have very knowledge as compare to IAS revenue officers. Ex Manmohan singh
Lateral Entry
pros:
1) Utilizing Private Expertise
2) Increase in resource availability
3)Mixing of Private Public domain knowledge
4) Successful examples : Dr. Manmohan Singh, Montek Singh ..
cons:
1) Implementation needs transparency to inspire confidence
2) Administration is a complex procedure hence advisory Role should be assigned first than promotion depends on performance
3) Difference in value system in Public and Private sector
4) Income and duration of service not enough to encourage a career in administration
5) Example East India Company took decades to adjust to administrative scope in INDIA
Issues to ponder:
1) Reservation
2) Change in bureaucracy structure
3) Selection procedure
Thanks for summary
Lateral entry is also in RAJYA SABHA.
I think your ponder list is not correct PLZZ correct it exchange Reservation with Casteism ok😀
@@homosapienssapiens4848 tum chutbaidhe hee rahoge beta
@@mr.rachetphilanthrophist601 kya
The optional subject that students take in upsc cse exam should be utilized as an expert domain after giving training in that area and they should be posted in their optional subjects area instead of hiring on a lateral entry basis.......
Himanshu Gaur 😊👍
Himanshu Pant I am girl and my name is Himanshu Gaur
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Good point...yes
There are many candidates who choose optional subjects which is different from their specialised subject in graduation so this won't be a good move to utilize them as an expert domain in that subject.
As former Cabinet Secretary TSR Subramanium had remarked in an earlier episode, short-term contracts under Lateral Entry would be disastrous. It will promote a lobby industry like that in the US, where the chain links from bottom to the President and his executive staff.
I think the present Staffing Policy of the Central Government needs a relook into the duration of these entries, regulatory provisions and attesting accountability. In terms of reforms to Civil Services also, why can't we adjust to a 'domain expertise' or 'cluster' system as the UK did in early 1960s on the recommendations of Fulton Committee. As such, we may not need lateral entries at all in future, and leverage on the grassroots experience of our civil servants as well.
The Faceless Assassin
Great knowledge.
well said
Very good decision....
No need for these inefficient babus....
We need people who can deliver
Instead of allowing them to join bureaucracy. These 10 persons must be made advisors to the particular departments.
Jyotsna Sharma yes it can only be suggested as there is no such provision in the notification passed by union government
If they are being appointed as advisor then nobody take them seriously, just like in PARMANU movie, they will have tea on floppy.
Deepesh Malik There are many ways to overcome such problems. It can be done by making rules and regulations. So when the Govt departments give reports to the different ministries they have to tell whether the advisors report are taken into consideration and if not whats the reasons behind that. And secondly Pokhran was a hidden mission but here it will be thrown open to the world.
Dharmesh Yadav advisors do t have specific tenure, they are being changed by the government, as the govt change they are also replaced by other. It's not about open and secret mission, its is more of fixing accountability. How many committee's have been set up time to time but most of them were neglected you know why because they were advisory in nature.
Advisior ki powers nahi hoti. Wo khali recommendation hi de sakte he baki real powers Secretary ke haath me hoti he ki advisory manana he ya nahi
Ab coaching me jaane se acha RSS me jao agar Ias banke is desh k liye acha karna h to...par RSS jakar mindwash Mat ho jaana, kahi wapas aakar riots karane lago
Bhai RSS valon ne kabhi koi riot nahin kiya
Aur na hi RSS kisi ka bhi mind washkarti hai
70yrs over. Can anyone tell me how India benifitted from so called bureaucrats?
Still India tops in Hunger index, highest poverty in world , highest gender gap, highest in corruption index.
Ask these questions to urself and answer me.
After this Lateral Entry India s rate of growing will be boosted tremendously in the above fields which you mentioned, now the government is going to set up its puppets in the elite BEAURACRACY 😀
This episode gives the actual picture of lateral entry with merits and demerits it may be question in UPSC interview.Rajya sabha tv The.big picture episode is really helpful for the youth to keep updates of current affairs.. I heartly thanks to all team of RSTV .
Mr Nagsen A Bhalerao
Transparency in selection process,a serious issue.
Mere hisab se age honi chahiye 24-34.
Kyuki ab IAS officer experts hone chahiye na ki just a general collector.
21 age me normal graduate apni post graduation bhi complete kar sake and apni knowledge ko apply karke dekhe by doing job in private firms and then he/she should try for this exam.
Agar kuch Professional degree Vale bhi hai vo bhi kuch time Ka experience le kar Aaye iss job ke liye.
Benefits if age limits 24-34 not from 21-32.
1. Competition me sabhi life and Job ke experience le kar Aaye honge, jo vo IAS ki job me apply kar sakege.
2. Agar suppose vo candidate clear nahi kar pata to vo apni purani job(private job) me vapas ja sakega due to its experience.
3. Normal graduates + job = professional graduates so equal level par honge both type of candidates.
4. English weak candidates (hindi medium) candidates get time to improve there English before actual preparation for upsc.
5. Agar preparation start karne se pehle usse private job Ka experience hoga to vo govt job me bhi vo ussi tezi se kaam karega.
........ Many more benefits
Suggest your view on my opnion
I appriciate this move but now govt must make education qualification for politician
SYNOPSIS OF THE DEBATE
CONS:
1. NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY IN LATERAL ENTRY.
2. EAST INDIA COMPANY - UNDERWENT LONG TRANSITION FROM TRADE TO GOVERNANCE.
3. PROFIT MOTIVE OF CORPORATE TO PUBLIC SERVICE MOTIVE OF GOVERNANCE
4. SELF LIMITING NATURE OF GOVERNMENT CONTRAST TO PRIVATE SECTOR.
5. SHORT TERM 3 YEAR CAREER AND UNATTRACTIVE PAY.
6. SUBORDINATE OFFICERS MAY TAKE HIM/HER FOR A RIDE IF UNAWARE OF INTRICATE DETAILS IN GOVERNANCE.
PROS:
1.SPECIALIST SERVICES WITH SKILLED DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE OF THE ARENA.
2. NEW FLAVOURS IN GOVERNANCE.
3.COMPETITION AND COMPETITIVE THINKING AND NEW TALENTS.
4. GREAT OPPURTUNITY FOR SKILLED PUBLIC SERVICE ENTHUSIASTS.
PLEASE ADD ANY MORE POINTS UNDER COMMENTS SECTION.
Give that 10 people the seat of rajyasabha ..
yadav neha pta ni kya ho rha hai yr ye glt hai😁
sarvesh pandey .......SAB thik hoga sabra kare 2019 k Chunav ab dur nhi
@@blossompnc1687 Ab toh 2019 ka bhi chunaav ho gaya...aur Modi wapas PM bhi ban gaya...with absolute Majority...😂😂😂
Swimming Pool mein and river mein swimming karna different hein. Respect for expertise... But without compromising transparency...
In one way or the other it help to upsc aspirants who claim that they are honest and have all the credentials of being a civil servant but unable to crack the exam due to various reasons.
If one feel that he/she has faith in constitution and fully service motive then work for 15+ years in private sector in different fields and try to come back through lateral entry without wasting in repeated attempts and by productive utilisation of time and talent.
In both the cases one finds win win situation.
all indian citizen know our political system is not quite honest . this decision make nexus between politician and businessman . rstv guest also worried about transparancy in selection of lateral bureaucrats
Bring lateral entry into politics too...it would also bring expertise in that sector
In our democracy, we have completely failed to elect good leaders and on what basis is government taking such decisions?? What about transparency?? it's completely political motivated move...
Then why not nominate them union ministers directly..amend,repeal anything possible..👿
And this country needs a dictator, people here are not good for right to freedom. They abuse freedom only.
V J not at all a political move..already babus are inclined to the parties which are in power if they want their persons they can put up easly..but now govt is looking at smart guys for smart governance..
Sushil Chandra sir explained in a very excellent way.
That's why there should be a strong opposition.
we have seen in last four years that a single person is disturbing and destroying the constitutional bodies and making his hold and that is not good for democracy.
I oppose this change
Lateral entry is good but it should be conducted under the UPSC.UPSC is a constitutional body which conducts the most fair selection in India.But BJP govt want to appoint own corporate friends and RSS worker in Indian bureaucracy for vested interest.Now cabinet secretary will appoints people as joint secretary in opaque manner wishlist of govt, the position of cabinet sec. is weak in front of political leaders including PM and ministers.
There is optional subject in the selection process of the All india service. That may be used to determine the domain of the work as in various ministry at the time coming to the age of 40yr the candidate will be having the domain experience of 10-15 yr rather than putting the candidate into any domain analyzing the subject matter and putting in a particular domain will be more transparent for citizens of india
NIKHIL BATRA But that can not be a criterion, what about people with language options or philosophy optional.
sagar pandey it was just my opinion for making it more transparent. As there is selection IES officers and also indian economics services officer there is my opinion to make some special selection of IAS for different ministers and there are also candidate with language subjects they can be given the work as it is given as now on general basis but after 3-5 yrs there must be the option to the candidate to choose a particular domain of work as per govt requirements.this thing is practiced well in UK
sagar pandey i hope u got my point making lateral entry may make the system opaque bt selecting candidate from already appointed officers will be more transparent
NIKHIL BATRA practical knowledge is way different than paper knowledge
santhosh kumar exactly my friend thats why the joint Secretary level post is given after 15 yr and if the candidate with required knowledge gain experience in that duration will be the perfect match for administration and public welfare.
Great debate.....more than a debate good evaluation.....as always FRANK proves his ability to anchor once again...
program on lateral entry in Bureaucracy is good but goverment must be understood that after lateral entry in bureaucracy there would be bigger possibility to feel jealous between the external joint secretary post and before IAS was elected to the examination Surat government should be also the reevaluate of the whole process and system which is going to be happen in the future
fire those jealuous IASs
Sushil Chandra Tripati sir always rock!
If it reduces civil services' vacancies then it would be last nail on this government's coffin😖😖😖 rozgar diye ni saalo ne or ye tarangi vichar late hain
Sukhdev Singh already there is a huge shortage in number of IAS officers,which is not being filled up.so stop bothering about vacancy...
Bhot sahi
Sukhdev Singh bilkul sahi kh rhe ho bro
Even reduction in vacancies of civil service examination taking place consequently and government is taking idiotic steps
ha to de de vote rahul gandhi ko.. every harsh action of govt. is liable for critical action.. this step must have been taken 4 years back.
govt. is not liable to employ people. 5 lakh jobs hain govt ki, India me. even a 4th class student can say what is the impact of govt. jobs in employment.
We must try this system of entry. But selection MUST be through UPSC with utmost transparency
Having great amount of knowledge and great amount of experience is different. Yes those who clear UPSC CCE exams are no doubt talented, smart, capable and knowledgeable people but they are Jack of all and master of some. They don't remain in one department for too long which doesn't give them an opportunity to be an expert in one particular field. Be it Raghuram Rajan, Manmohan Singh, Amartya Sen they have expert knowledge about Finance and are from Finance background so bringing such people to Joint Secretary level will be an added bonus to Indian government.
And Just because some one clears UPSC doesn't mean he or she is the best citizen or the most talented person on earth.
A.P.J Abdul Kalam was not an IAS officer but look at his contributions towards India's development.
Today India direly needed is to reform our political system(dirt politicians lalu mulayam ramdas athawale type ) not the bureaucratic system .there is no dirth of capable bureaucrats (ashok khemaka and Armstrong pame etc etc) ..think it
reducing UPSC seats & pushing for lateral entry is a smart move. lateral entry selection should be transparent fair & merit based. specialist people should be at policy making position
I m a upsc aspirant
I respect our pm
But this move is so worst
Lateral entry is disgusting
I want this move must be critised everyehere
After heard about lateral entry really unhappy
If you are an aspirant then you would definitely not have rejected the move in its entirety. Its a good move and if transparent selections are done it would do good for the country.
it is Good move but recruitment should be transparent (like UPSC)..... and i think "Lateral Exit also should start for IAS officers for few year if they want ......for study of any specialization or other thing
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Grt approach to attract the talented minds who has ideas to make some changes in government policy making by allowing them to executive position.Hope for the best.
Lateral entry in elite services is not new who all are new here and it has been going on since 50 years
Skipping Sanjay Kumar's talk😂
Honest and hard working bureaucrats are harassed and frequently transferred, government should have addressed this problem. Lateral entry is not a solution, it will only demotivate the students.
This is the myth that private players are the efficient administrator instead they are profit driven greedy personnel who just think about themselves and they lacks social values. Our country is being run by the IAS and other officials who are selected by the UPSC under the name as bureaucracy! And that is why India is becoming a superpower in this world. And what corporates do? Corporates have caused bank a loss of near about 2 to 3 lakhs crore! So is this an efficiency in administration! Corporates are becoming a burden on the common people in India because their money is being put in the banks when corporates suck out the money from the banks. This move inspires favouritism. We can not defend collateral entry just because it is the Manmohan Singh who has been come through and it is successful! Because there are always exceptions! This political parties get funds from this corporates and now they are paying them in such sinister manner. Once again I said Narendra Modi is the most failure Prime Minister of India who got majority in elections but he turned it out his popularity to minority! Every day the news comes from the government of India are disastrous and disturbing that it looks like govt of India led by Modi does not want people's participation in governance and Modi wants that common people of India only deserve to sell pakoda and earn 200 rs daily for their livelihood! Shame! Promised to create 2 crore jobs yearly in 2014 and look what have they have done now. How can this people bear so much lie inside their heart and live their life like king. No worth of such life which caused discomfort and crushed the dreams of the poor and common people. UPSC is the constitutional body and all appointment should be made by it. UPSC is fair enough and it is made the officers who knows everything because they learn so much that the whole current government cabinet ministers would not have ability to learn. Officers come out through the UPSC are the common people, they are hard worker and knows common issues and they deliver at their best. These so called collateral practices must have stopped.
Why govt is appointing only 10 corporate employees.... Shut down the UPSC and appoint all the officers from reliance and adani..... People fight the UPSC and then come on , but here people will be appointed by our PM who even failed in BA
Yes, shut the upsc, already it's a big blow to hard working upsc aspirants, moreover it's a pilot project, later on they are going to bring more lateral entry
All those people attributing political/ideological motives, can someone please tell me what kind of corruption or other motivated things that the govt cannot do with the existing bureaucracy and needs to hire private ppl? Do we already not have enough corrupt people in the system already at all levels whom the govt can transfer anywhere/annytime?
Regarding efficiency, in 90% of the cases, for every bureaucrat's work, i can show atleast 5 people from the private sector who can do it better. This move will promote merit, increase competition and hence better delivery of services.
Socialism 101: if you treat the hardest working person and the laziest person the same way, eventually everyone will stop working.
public sector for profit and worker in publice sector more responsible than govt sector, it will be good for govt they can do very well job but requirement must be transparent
I think many of us will be upsc aspirant and we can't criticise gov't. Step but only can recommend provisions to ensure accountability and transparency in selection process e.g.. 1. Effective training 2. Accountability 3. Selection by upsc 4. Providing domain knowledge to existing civil servants ..... I request don't indulge your personal opinions If u wanna clear exam
Katju sir is awesome..
Lateral entry brings talent.
I think this is great move to end this reservation system 😁,which is good to see🤗 only talented, deserving people must given this opportunities / positions to do some better for the betterment of our country.
The comment section is against this move. Most of them are UPSC aspirants. It clearly indicates that, these types of serious news are seen only by them, in the mean time the those private sector employees are busy in making their products more competitive even at the cost of society, environment and so so.
Bring lateral enteries has both pros and cons from my opinion. Firstly, I think this is a good move. Because govt is giving an opportunity for the people who are even from private sectors and PSU's. There are many people who are having immense knowledge on the topics which may bring change and development of our country. And there is no need for the aspirants to worry about the posts, as the people for the post of joint secretary are selected and trained by UPSC. Secondly, the term given for the J.sect is a small period which of 3yrs extendable to 5yrs. This effects the people who wanted to set their career for long time n may truly cause a wrong impact if the person reuses the skills learned during this term in his private sector.
So, govt n UPSC need to think from Every aspect and take a good decision.
This is a step in right direction by the govt. This is perhaps the biggest reform in bureaucracy in the last 20 years. Our babus i.e. IAS,IPS, IRS are yet to come out of their colonial hangover. Their mindset still reflects mai-baap attitude. Unfortunately most of our bureaucrats are corrupt to the core. It is high time these corrupt babus and deadwoods are weeded out. Only section which is worried and scared with this move of the govt is the IAS lobby. The monopoly of IAS in higher bureaucracy is now threatened. Now they have a serious competition from talents of private sector. So they are using tricks of all kind to stall the lateral entry.
Very clear and logical thought process and speaking by Sushil Chandra sir, highlighted the pros and cons quite comprehensively.
Ab toh SAMBIT PATRA bhi Joint Secretary ban jaega LoL 😂😂
that is not good decision... of bjp government...
anuradha anuradha its NDA dude
This is not happening for the first time. Same thing has happened in Congress.
@@mandeep5993 but congress never appoints lateral entrants at joint secretary post.they were only advisors to government
@@nileshtripathi9802 Not true. Montek Singh Ahluwalia was a joint secretary (& at several other secretary level posts). He was not an IAS officer.
merit should be considered, and the manner of oppointment matters lots as transperancy issues otherwise politicisation of beaurocracy may happen like politician may appoint thier kin there on such posts. overall all depends on appointment procedure
One of the best debates! Mr. Perera, you are doing a great job.
vivek katju sahab rightly pointed out the vital intricacies associated with this step....
very well explained, all the doubts...!!
thanx Rajya Sabha TV nd Frank for making such debates avlbl fot us !!
nepotism,favourtism,captialism,corporatisation of bureaucracy will be done by this move.........kyaa yaar makhol bnaa diya desh ka inhone aggressive nationalism or reforms ke naam par...band baja diya desh kaa 4 saalon mein iss sarkar ne ..bas baaton waali sarkar hai... there is no stability in economy, every sector has decline from agri to manufacturing to external sector.........even now there is no stability in upsc recruitment..kabhi age,kabhi optional,kabhi post kam,kabhi foundational course marks..now lateral entry......kujh na kujh nyaa sunne ko milta hai har month....upsc ki tiyaari ki bhi waat lggi huyi hai students ki.............i think govt should be change in 2019 election....chahe koi bhi aaye new govt..
Just attach facts.. don't keep your views in isolation.
have you read last 2 eco surveys ? if not then plz read it by heart not by brain....sab fact aapke clear ho jeyenge....advisers vaise bhi govt rakhti hai har issue par...esa nahi ke kujh chaaplooson ko sarkari afsar bnaa do reforms ke naam par...congress kaa to bura haal thaa...ab inka bhi vahi rassta hai
How bizarre is it that no IAS is accepting that lateral entries are the results of their failures?
Y...people who clear UPSC are not smart?? Talented??
Commercialization of burucracy...
Did u watch the entire debate? Arguments have been put that its not for talent its for specific domain knowledge.
No clearing UPSC is not enough..u need upgrade skills continuously and evolve accordingly but this is not at all happening with babus..
They are ... but the system that they enter after passing is not meritorious.
You are only good as your team.
Private professionals are shaped by market forces, hence more competitive.
Tulsi sharma Tina dabi upsc 2015 topper graduated in political science if she became finance secretary then how will she able to handle??
Phunkha Boro SMART stands for Simple, Moral, Accountable, Responsive, and Transparent
Bad idea
GOOD IDEA HAPPY WITH THIS MOVE
Superb comment Frank..."reservations"
Tripathi sir.. amazing explanations🙏
i dont know if sanjay kumar knows what he is talkin about so confidently
This is a good move , I cannot fathom why the comments section is negative regarding the lateral selection. Agreed the selection process needs to be done by upsc and some sort of training needs to be given before inducting them to the service.
There is an dire need of subject matter experts in various ministries. This is a welcome move provided the selection process is done by upsc.
Certainly a good move, aspirants shouldn't get emotional rather be practical as this augurs well for the country.
Politician selection ka bhi exam hona chahiye....
Indian need this move very much....
It is indeed an excellent move.
All those taking about this giving rise to corruption, how is it any different now? What stops the govt today from not becoming corrupt if it wants to?
All those talking about RSS workers coming in neither have any clue about RSS nor about administration. Its already an RSS backed govt & hence minister an RSS man (the boss of the Officer being appointed)
Comments sections is negative because we feel we are entitled to have govt jobs where one need not work and still continue all his life with ZERO accountability. This move will increase competition and people might have to actually work.
Politician apne liye bhi koi eligibility criteria decide kar le ...
Agar govt employees kaam nhi krte to ye sab kaam kaun kr rha hai...
Aap k paas itne yuva hai inko to proper job opportunity provide nhi karwa pa rhe ...
Aur baat rhi inke appointments ki ... to Governer se lekar ministers k appointment kaise krhe hai ye politician sab ko pta hai...
you said this is good move but we'll definitely say good move for politician and businessman nexus
Yes MLA PM ka bhi exam Hona Chahiye
one per ministry is advisable but only on those that require knowledge in niche areas, like civil aviation, Renewable energy; infact we may borrow officers on loan basis or deputation from other CPSUs as well like Marine engineers into minsitries like shipping, DMA (Naval) and Indian economic service officers into DEA or DFS.actually they are happening but a structured approach is needed
These officers may serve as nodal point of references for subject expertise when acts/order/rulers are framed.
They can also nurture the freshly inducted career bureaucrats into specialists and contribute immensely to the Mission karmayogi ( capacity development programme)
DOPT is suggested to follow a transfer policy that is more cluster oriented rather than vacancy oriented approach
I work at Deloitte for 3 years as a chartered accountant, but I am completely disagree with the view as shared by the Sanjay kumar.
Consultants can be hired to do the Said job, and if they are so talented then why can’t they clear the exam.
This is a good move provided that there will be transparency in selection process. We should see the ministries chosen for this, they all are related to the economy, infrastructure and development and they really need domain experts for new innovative ideas and schemes. We should notice that the crucial ministries like defence or MEA or home ministry are not included so we should understand that the government are not trying to disturb the fabric of the bureaucracy but their intention are to use best brains in the government. Those we aspire to become civil servants should trust the government under whom they have to work.
I believe that IAS officers have enough knowledge and they all are very talented but still we should agree that one person will never become an expert and will never be experienced in aviation, commerce, finance and highways at the same time. We need different people who are experts in their domain. In current system we are only taking generalist in all sectors who have knowledge but are not experts of what they are doing.
My opinion ,
Inspite of introducing lateral entry ,if specialised ,expertise , talented civil servants are allowed to do their job , without transferring to other domains by political influence..,.Then definitely no need of lateral entry
If we stop civil servants resigns due to political pressures, then there is no topic of '' lateral entry ".
One request to rstv that debate should be in both side in the above episode all the panelists are talking in the favour of lateral entry but no one is in against
In recent days I have seen many of debates on rstv are in a single side
To all commenting that this will bring in corruption, tell me how clean is the bureaucracy now?!
It's just the fear that there will be competence and challenge lethargic babudom.
They fear IAS,IPS ka banne ka craze kam ho jayga... phir unacademi ka business kaise chalega
3 points:
1. appointed ones would be specified to achieve a particular goal and would not be utilised in regular governance. Position is just a tag
2. we should see how they are appointed.
3. we shoudl wait to see who all are appointed. Hope persons are not already earmarked and the notification is just a process to appoint them
this is a good movement but it should be fair and transparent.
Transparency and power to the recruited person and selection procedure is the key.
It is good move but there should be a transparency in selection process, no nexus between candidate and government . India wants good governance which can be improved by welcoming this move.
The provision of lateral entry in upsc is good but it should be only for public sector undertakings and policy implementing departments on 3 years contract basis
why niti aayog think tank created .....???
Nice discussion with foresigth view. Thanks RSTV...
People will write case study on this.
Single question .....This expert(lateral entry candidate) is going to take responsibility of action taken by him or just work on disclaimer or professional protection.
I would be very worried about a corporate man coming in and wrecking the system for two years and going away. It would take our legal system 30 years to convict him. So these are the kinds of misuse we have to guard against. Not my words but of : TSR Subramaniam
I think those who are capable enough to clear upsc are also capable to be expert in a particular area hence selected ones are to be trained rather than paving the way for nepotism.
it can be sustainable if the selection is not based on political perspective, and also it is a right way of finding new talented peoples in the private sector.
Just don’t call it Joint secretary... you may recruit whoever you want.. it dilutes the value of joint secretary position...
Too good discussion.
keep going.
tnx rs tv.
The best part of lateral entry will be that it will thrive the individuals for excellence and position will remain after performance which include risk however govt officer take their job granted. I am not questioning the knowledge of govt. Officer but lateral entry will add synergy .
Disclaimer: Right talent to be placed at right place
Foolish govt don't know its outcome in the society there is no hope for any sc at obc person to get this job.
May be a good move but there remains an apprehension.
There is a chance of rising crony capitalism. The policies and every schemes drawn by the expertise may direct to himself or self benefit at some point. And since the tenure is maximum for 5 years, they may not hold the post or exercise their power sincerely.
But we can not deny the fact that expertise in a particular domain will have more feasible strategy and wisdom compared to bureaucrats.
Strict and transparent selection should be carried out by upsc board, and not by any other board.
guys you don't think that..this govt doesn,t have any roadmap.
upsc exam is about general studies. All of which are going to be studying relevant things instead of depth. Then, it is for the post of joint secretary which will take some time for us to reach even if we become officers. Third, what guarantee is there that when the govt. requires a capable person for shipping, agriculture sector which we as general studies students will be able to provide with lesser experience than that expert..
Good move. Can act as pilot for future.
Govt should think about the, offering specialized ministry within the course of IAS TRAINING. Basic training ND then training in different govt department so that particular candidate ll continue with that ministry throughout the career ND become specialized
While the vacancies are decreasing, govt is making fun of the aspirants working hard to be an officer. If they need an expert then they should try to create new departments and recruit people through an apt and just body to do away all the chances of manipulation. Employment rate dekhna chahiye pahle ki kya hai desh ka and Civil Services are the most important posts that should not be awarded arbitrarily. I mean who will ensure that there will be no corruption. There is a logic behind conducting an entrance exam i.e to remove corruption but as of now, this system doesn't seem to be fair. It takes 20+ years of service to be a joint security hence he has all the qualities to be the right person for the post.
May be a good move ...but if we require such experts at different levels of bureaucracies in ministry...so we should select some of the interest people from them who are really interested to work in a particular field and can make proper training system so that they can get enough exposure to work and then lateral entry will not be required.
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Frank sir, I request you to make an episode on journalism in India and latest cobrapost sting operation .
A dirty move by govt ,now a days selection commission like SSC...are badly affected by politician and totally failed to deliver the transparent selection. Here govt is going to higher own people...
It seems a good no. of CS aspirants are obsessed with IAS, IPS etc. They frequently say serving the country and national interests are their priority. But, they can't even digest the idea of lateral entry which at least deserves a try.
Good intiave, UPSC people studying everything but they can't be expert after working in particular department then afterwards he she became expert of that field..
But government should clarify whether it is substitute or alternative to civil service
Good and informative discussion !! But Mr. Frank please take care to have panelists who have diverging point of views. Here all three broadly have similar view point on this topic accept few differences here and there.