I have the previous Dogma F and I love it. It rides so good and it looks different than all the other race bikes, that is something I really like about it. 😊
the last 5 Tours de France Pinarello bikes didn’t play a significant role, same in most significant races; so according to your introduction we should assume that Pinarello now is outdated…? No, but most top bikes today are equally good - it’s the rider who wins or loses
All frames are manufactured in Asia and only the painting and assembly of the Dogma models takes place at the company's headquarters in Treviso. Therefore, to the purist, this is NOT an Italian bike! But still nice, though!
The secret to bikes that are successful in grand tours is getting them under riders that are capable of winning a grand tour. It’s not the wand, it’s the wizard….
I know they worded that as if to say "off level/on a slope" , but they'll be referencing the asymetric,slightly to one side off center nature of the bb shell , like Cervelos bbright system.
Pinarello Dogma F carbon frame is more stiff than cheaper carbon? (wilier gtr or specialized Tarmac sl4) and cheaper carbon are more comfortable than high quality carbon(like dogma or other high end frames) ??
Pure marketing genius! Ya gotta hand it to them, they've made a fortune selling bicycles with their decal on them made by others. Not original of course, but they've done a fantastic job making sure the best teams are using bikes with their decal on the downtube. But don't forget, the bike doesn't do s__t until an athlete climbs on and starts pedaling.
The first Dogma was not the FP. It was simply the Dogma .. a magnesium frame with carbon rear stays. The FP was released on 2004. Explain how I had a Dogma in 2003 bought in Treviso from Giovanni Pinarello. You really need to get your facts straight
That is next level shilling. They make the frames in China and they're owned by LVMH that owns Louis Vuitton so it's absolutely a luxury brand, not a performance one on the edge of innovation. Does colnago win the TDF with pogi and UAE because UAE owns colnago, or because colnago is one cut above the rest? I'm sure pinarello makes great bikes, but this video sounds terribly hollow.
@cannon1156 they sold them this year to an individual. And production is China and Vietnam, finishing in Taiwan and and painted in Italy. This is all for the Dogma.
@cannon1156 the F8 and 10 were under Pinarello ownership. After that, it was under LMVH. I do believe that the quality went down bc they were really pushed to produce as many as possible. Fausto even said that in an interview.
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I love that they kept the mud & grime on the Roubaix bike. Reminds me of former LeMans racecar in museums.
I have the previous Dogma F and I love it. It rides so good and it looks different than all the other race bikes, that is something I really like about it. 😊
the last 5 Tours de France Pinarello bikes didn’t play a significant role, same in most significant races; so according to your introduction we should assume that Pinarello now is outdated…? No, but most top bikes today are equally good - it’s the rider who wins or loses
It's not the bike it's always the rider
They've also won World titles in XCC, XCO MTB, and Cyclocross......
dogma is the most beautiful and distinctive looking bike ever.
Really interesting video, keep it up.
All frames are manufactured in Asia and only the painting and assembly of the Dogma models takes place at the company's headquarters in Treviso.
Therefore, to the purist, this is NOT an Italian bike! But still nice, though!
By your definition there isn't a carbon Italian bike.
@@flipper2gv well so be it
@@flipper2gv NO? There are more than a few 100% Made-in-Italy carbon bikes available...I own a couple of 'em!
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 care to give me an example?
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 OEM ahahaha!
The secret to bikes that are successful in grand tours is getting them under riders that are capable of winning a grand tour. It’s not the wand, it’s the wizard….
Pogi and colnago are going to rack up more wins than any other bike brand ever… and it won’t take him long either!
Its not the bike that wins, its the rider. Everything else is marketing...
Sorry but can you explain “the bottom bracket has been tilted”???
I know they worded that as if to say "off level/on a slope" , but they'll be referencing the asymetric,slightly to one side off center nature of the bb shell , like Cervelos bbright system.
@@Cycle.every.day. O.K, I believe you but in what way can that possibly be described as being “tilted 3 degrees”?
@@SecwetGwiwer Maybe if your leggs are not the same length ;)
My Favorite is the Prince of Spain ridden by Alejandro Valverde
Pinarello Dogma F carbon frame is more stiff than cheaper carbon? (wilier gtr or specialized Tarmac sl4) and cheaper carbon are more comfortable than high quality carbon(like dogma or other high end frames) ??
Often, you can not get a fram to fit you, and because of this, you feel left out of the bike industry.
3:23 Best paint job ever . . . Mud!
Pure marketing genius! Ya gotta hand it to them, they've made a fortune selling bicycles with their decal on them made by others. Not original of course, but they've done a fantastic job making sure the best teams are using bikes with their decal on the downtube. But don't forget, the bike doesn't do s__t until an athlete climbs on and starts pedaling.
The real Pinarello frames are made by Carbotec Industrial of Taiwan and China. Painting are done in italy ….
The first Dogma was not the FP. It was simply the Dogma .. a magnesium frame with carbon rear stays. The FP was released on 2004. Explain how I had a Dogma in 2003 bought in Treviso from Giovanni Pinarello. You really need to get your facts straight
How did it hold up? And your experience?
@@tommyfreckmann6857I raced that bike until 2015. It was a great bike
@@cannon1156sweet! So, it was reliable for you. I heard so many horror stories of it cracking. Why did you sell it? And any idea on how many miles?
still, an OEM frame is made in Taiwan and ROC No such thing as authentic frames anymore😂
The handbag bike firm? Colnago has won more. And watching @mapdec it's clear Penisrello bikes aren't well made
Is this Pinarello’s carbon frame made in China and then sent back to Italy for painting?
Yes! Made in Taiwan
No, it's not. They are made in China or Vietnam.@@ageofsigmar7236
what size bike did you ride in this video.
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tell them to cool it with all the stickers
It ain't da bike ....they are all good.
4:45 I thought the rule has always been to run WITH the bike!
It was (and still is), but judges forgot that at the time.
@@madyogi6164 convenient amnesia, propelled by Sky's influence?
@@savagepro9060 More like SKY!
@@madyogi6164 Oops! My bad . . . edit
I thought Trigon made Pinarello...
The most successful is not the same as the best nor most beautiful. The best and most beautiful Grand Tour bike is by Sturdy Cycles.
That is next level shilling. They make the frames in China and they're owned by LVMH that owns Louis Vuitton so it's absolutely a luxury brand, not a performance one on the edge of innovation. Does colnago win the TDF with pogi and UAE because UAE owns colnago, or because colnago is one cut above the rest? I'm sure pinarello makes great bikes, but this video sounds terribly hollow.
I do agree to a degree. But, when the Dogma F8 was released. It was very cutting edge at the time in 2014.
LVMH are recent owners of Pinarello .. not the woners when the F series started
@cannon1156 they sold them this year to an individual. And production is China and Vietnam, finishing in Taiwan and and painted in Italy. This is all for the Dogma.
@tommyfreckmann6857 ..I was just saying that when the F series started they were still owned by Pinarello not LVMH
@cannon1156 the F8 and 10 were under Pinarello ownership. After that, it was under LMVH. I do believe that the quality went down bc they were really pushed to produce as many as possible. Fausto even said that in an interview.
ain't gonna happen no more
$15k for a bike .... hard pass.
Never heard this complain ever before.
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Amazing that Ineos continues to stick with such a mediocre bike
Silly comment
@@jenmac287Silly response to a comment
I’d put it the other way round, amazing that Pinarello continues to stick with such a mediocre team.
@@SrFederico😂