Official Flood coolant MOD for the 4x6 Harbor Freight saw PART 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- This week I done a mod on my Harbor Freight 4x6 band saw that I've wanted to do for the last 6 years. I finally broke down and made a full coolant system for this great little saw. It was pretty easy so far and I hope it all works out as I planned. I cant wait for the test run! Consider supporting Steve Summers TH-cam channel
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*Perfect band saw for the hobby enthusiast **MyBest.Tools** Easy to set up and square. Had it running in 10 to 15 minutes. Quality of cuts will depend on the quality of the blades.*
I use these at work all the time and they're both very good drills. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I've been watching Amazon and stores waiting for them to dip a little lower in price and when they did it was a no brainer.The 1.5 amp 20 volt batteries are a real step up if you were using 18 volt previously. They should handle all your day to day needs. But if you do need more power know that not only do the 3, 4, and 5 amps last longer but they give you a noticeable boost in whatever you're doing. For home use however, you'd be hard pressed to find anymore need for power than this.These guns are also fairly durable as I know they've been dropped more than their fair share... that is if an accident happens. Dewalt also offers iirc a 1 year warranty if it does break as well, though I've never went through the process.
Gotta love Momma's classic first aid for treating boo-boo's. No expiration date. Gave me a ear to ear smile over my Saturday morning coffee!! Best of Luck, Stay Healthy.........
Well, isn't that special, you got you're boo-boo kissed.... LOL🤣
Seeing that pencil sharpener was a nostalgia bomb. The moment I saw it I could smell it. The official pencil sharpener of every school teacher of my childhood
Steve you are one lucky man... My wife would not been seen dead in my shop... Top Job Sir top job... Cheers John..
I was really impressed by your lack of swearing when you banged your knee. That looked like it hurt!
Love the ‘CAD’ design system! 😆 Another fascinating build, beautifully executed. Thanks for my Saturday morning chill-time. 👍
Reminds me of th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=pierre%27s+garage video when he said, I don't use CAD I use PAD and did his drawings on A made of paper PAD. John, Australia.
Edit: This is not the Video, just a link to his channel if any person is interested.
Mr. Pete uses CAD all the time.
Excellent design and execution Steve. The manufacturer should incorporate this into their standard machine and pay you a royalty.
Indeed but my concern is the electrics which are not designed for splashing with water might object. Possibly more of a problem in the 240 volt world than you low voltage people.😉
@@chrisstephens6673 England ?
@@TomokosEnterprize oh lord, you mean she is a home grown loony.
Edit, that probably won't make any sense as it was a reply to a different post about an even pottier politician than they have in Washington.😢 note to self get better teading glasses.
@@chrisstephens6673 YUP ! LOL.
@@chrisstephens6673 ...125 volts will kill you just as dead, just as fast!
Dog gone it I was thinking Cad ment country ass design o yeah country boys can succeed, as usual the shop is getting better and the best Saturday morning wakeup call in the world
Literally thinking about just this today. Thanks Steve you have just created my lockdown 2.0 project. Cheers from New Zealand.
Very neat! I wouldn't be surprised if your idea becomes an iconic improvement to this band saw of which there must be 10's of 1000's.
Yes and I for one am going to do something very similar as I have a brand new complete coolant pump system which was intended for my lathe by previous owner and I don't want flood coolant on it as it's too messy in a very small shed, so I will be using on the 4x6" exact same, but different branded saw here in the UK
I know I've said it before, but man I wish I had or had access to a shop like yours steve...love the work and videos, till next time....
Well, I'm sure Steve said that also, except he spent the last year building and doing something about it.
@@paulcopeland9035 yeah, wish I could, I'm on disability, raising a child alone with no support and just enough money to live barely so can't really save to get anything .right now, was a machinist for years many years ago. maybe after he's grown n gets a job. Not everyone can just do something about it. Especially ppl on s.s and disability with everything costing more and more.
@@Jason710. ...Yes sir, life can be a beating some times. Sounds like you are doing a fine job with what you have. Keep positive my friend! Have a good day sir!!
Not only are you a good modder...and a welder. But daggumit you make a pretty good bell too!
Keep em coming!!!!
Hope all is well. Concerned for the folks affected by flooding on the East coast. Hope your creek is behaving itself.
"rocket surgery" .. mixing metaphors since 2021! hah hah.. great video Steve and something everyone can probably use...
Great idea and it should extend the life of your saw blades greatly. I liked the last few seconds of your video when you said "anybody could do it as long as you have some basic hand tools and The Drive". You certainly have The Drive as evident by your shop renovation project, the many improvements you've made to your equipment, and your never ending strive for excellence in everything you do. Thank you for giving all of us something to look forward to on Saturday mornings.
Nicely said !
Hah, Steve and Brian Block both have extra helpings of The Drive. They wouldn't even need the hand tools, just two rocks and a sharp stick. Couple months later the job would be done, and they'd have made a set of tools along the way.
Just like a truck driver on a long trip, no leaks.
Hi Steve
Your imagination on everything you do astounds me. I sure don't have the creativity you do. I was wondering if you might share your basic setup on your Harbor Freight saw sometime. What you did to make it cut straight?
Like the accent you have when you say coolant....cooowwlent...keep up great work. Love this upgrade.
Agree on the saw base actually being ridgid enough. It's first impression is flimsy but when assembled it does it's job.
I identify with your struggle with the pencil sharpener. Nice project, added to my long list of stuff to do.
Nice project. Excellent shop tools.
Two words, work bench.... instead of floor.
I havent had a boo boo kiss in 55 years-lol Love watching a nice fabrication job come to fruition, more satisfying than buying new when it all comes together as planned. Nice job.
What a great idea. There must be thousands and thousands of these saws out there. Mine is machine green and came from Princess Auto. Canadas Harbor Freight. Although mine has 4 independent legs and after a week they had to be reinforced. It is a great little saw I made a vertical table for it that greatly improved it's uses. I picked up a bunch of off cuts of 16 gage sheet metal from our local land fill transfer station that now has a purpose. Thanks a bunch for bringing this to us on another fine Saturday morning relax time with you. Take care eh.
Great cardboard cad work. 😎 Keep that template and I'll make fab drawings for you. Many HF owners will want your plans. Steve and Elizabeth, what a great team!
Happy Saturday Steve, Elizabeth and Gritts! I have one of those saws! Looks like mine will have to have a coolant system too. Great basic concepts and techniques, Cardboard Aided Design is something I learned on Utube too. Great Saturday mornin, thanks for sharing your efforts, God Bless.
Steve, you know why,I like your videos,you deliver results,!
And I did mine with a metal sheetrock mud pan ;-)
When Steve sharpens his pencil it just got serious. Also You know the guy at winkeys workshop is going to be making one of these in the near future, excellent design wish I'd have thought of it
At 2:14 I was bracing myself for a @ThisOldTony trick!
Ha Steve
Drop a magnet 🧲 in the tray to catch the greater amount of chip.
As it will make clean up that much easier.
Great job. 👍
Keep them coming.
OMG!! You VOIDED the WARRANTY!!!
Great start on a a really nice upgrade project! You know, I thought I was the only one who gets tripped up on electrical cords like that. :)
That is an awesome job it even looks like it could have come like that from the factory as well
Nice up grade Steve. I hate to beat a dead horse but, are we ever going to see the blue DoAll horizontal band saw you were restoring.
You also need that funny little rotating brush to remove the chips, like Abom's old band saw has. :-)
Great video I always look forward to your work. Thanks.
Great idea Steve, this should be fitted as standard by the manufacturers.
Yes, I agree, Steve figured this out, for the manufacturers to add as an optional coolant system. Steve is an asset, to any shop.....🍁
@@leiferickson9666 From the manufacturer this is a loss, they do not get to sell you as many blades, as they last longer.
@@SeanBZA Ha, right, should have known better, more $ rules the world!!......🍁
Hi Steve and Elizabeth ☺ nice mod on the little bandsaw, good job you saved that metal shelf, just goes to show all the junk we accumulate comes in handy eventually, lol. Looking forward to seeing it up and running, thanks for the video, stay safe guys, best wishe's to all, Stuart uk.
Cliffhanger...keep'em wanting more! LOL Great modification. Did you save your template? You know people are gonna be wanting one of those pans. Miss Elizabeth's is always a great addition to the shop videos...you big baby. LOL
This should be a very popular mod, watching with great interest I think a lot of people here including myself will be copying the final design. Thanks for doing the prototype work Steve. 👍👍
Thanks, for your work but especially for better than average welding photography.
A good example of using what you have to solve a problem. I have to say that the sound of so much water running into buckets caused me to step out for a moment.. You have a very caring wife, mine would have laughed and gone to check the life insurance documents. Best wishes, Dean in Oxfordshire UK.
great work as usual...Do not forget the saw dust that will collect and possibly clog up the system
Nice work Steve, See you next time...
Love these small improvement projects!
Cardboard CAD is so underappreciated. It's an absolute time saver. Only made aware of this quite recently. (Thank you, Adam Savage).
2 questions:
- do the tank and pump need some sediment separator?
- the valve could be closed when you switch on the power. Could that damage the pump?
The dirt will settle to the bottom of the tank, and the pump does have a cleanable screen on it as well, so no problems, just needs regular emptying of the tank. As to running into a closed valve nothing will happen to the pump, it is a centrifugal pump nor positive displacement, so all it will do is spin and generate max head pressure and no flow, but will still keep the flow around the impeller and magnetic rotor that keeps it cool and lubricated fine. The fail point on all these pumps is just that the rotor itself, or the shaft it runs on, eventually wears out, and a new pump is cheaper than the spare parts in a lot of cases.
You do not even need to buy the expensive Little Giant pump, the cheap $10 garden centre pond pump, with a ceramic shaft, will last years in use, as they are often turned on, and left running for 5 years before they fail, with nothing other than the occasional clean of gunk from them. In this application the saw will fail first before the pump, as it will likely do under 100 hours in a year in use, unless it is running in a steel shop for 5 hours a day, but still there it will last years. I used to get 5 years out of them running cooling loops in production plant, as they were a lot cheaper than the manufacturer recommended thing, of run tap water through to waste drain. Paid for the work in around 3 months just from water use alone, and also allowed use of water conditioning, to keep corrosion down, as well.
@@SeanBZA I have used a pond/fountain pump for mine for awhile, no issues, and less than half the price.
Hopefully there is a filter on the drain line like on the big boy the pump was pulled it from. He's a pretty smart guy with a lot of experience.
From a backseat driver... If its not easy to do maintenance, then there isn't going to be any. I'd like to see the ability to just lift up the tank and pull it out to change the filter and empty crud out of it more easily.
@@SeanBZA Most of the cuttings will stay on the tray as well.
@@TomokosEnterprize For ferrous metals simplest is to place a strong magnet ( old one out of a microwave magnetron) under the plate, it will catch most of the metal filings as the magnetic field extends through the thin steel sheet.
Loved the family photo! I think you might have wanted a kick out to match the kick out on the saw casting so it didn't drip off it and miss the pan but it may work fine. Time will tell! :-)
I have a modification that I made to my vise on the moveable jaw . I added two things. Instead the lock nut I put on an adjustable hand lever to hold the jaw down. Second I drilled and tapped a 1/4 -20 hole on the left side of the jaw and added a long thumb screw to balance out the jaw when your cutting short work. Both work great and I wish I had done it long before I did.
Your job looks pretty good so far.
Ta Steve and Elisabeth, always interesting content Cheers.
Great video. You never cease to amaze me. I have the same saw from Grizzly since 1990 and always wanted to do the same thing. Now you have motivated me to do it . I really enjoyed this video as you said many of small home shops have these saws. I also have the Evolution 15" dry saw and plasma torch and oxy/acetylene torch but I still use this saw a good bit. Thanks for sharing. Dan
You are a much braver man than me welding that pan to the saw. Every time I weld something to something else by the time the welds cool I figure a better way of doing it. Then I spent more time cutting the welds off then I spent welding in the darned thing together in the first place. What adding the bolts to the coolant tank be easier taking it on and off? If the pump is on the bottom of the Coolant tank, will they pick up chips and junk? Maybe adding a spacer block underneath the pump.
I agree, keep it removeable for cleaning.
Very clever! I wore out two of that exact same saw in my shop so I upgraded to the 7 x 12 hydraulic lever saw from Harbour Freight. It came with the coolant system. I didn’t know that I needed this feature until I got the saw. Your TIG welding skills are phenomenal.
Nice job , nice shop and Mostly nice that you had medical help in shop when you had your knee boo boo !
Loved the bit of comedy you put in there...
:-D
Great addition to the saw!
:-D
Hi Steve, After you run it you might find that you can trim that tray so you don't have to extend or modify the handle. It might require blade wipers to prevent coolant from getting that far out. Good fab job! Or should I say "Fabulous!"
Can't wait to see the final result. I have the same saw with a tray on the floor and hate it! I used a recycled gallon plastic milk jug with the top cut off sitting on a shelf right where your tank sits and a little smaller Little Giant pump.
Sean Signer.....So what you are saying is that you aren't worth a shit at designing and fabrication.
Cardboard Aided Design, its a classic!
looking foreword to the next vid. and you 2 are cute fixing that booboo first aid is very important in any shop.
cant wait for part 2! was crossing my fingers you were going to plug in the pump just so we could see the flow rate but good things come to those who wait, cheers!!
Thanks for the imperial to metric conversion @ 4:41 & 13:06 :)
I love the videos. It would be really helpful if you had links in your description to the parts that you use. Keep 'em coming.
i would like to suggest a recirculating line so as not to deadhead the coolant pump
13:36 Steve deliberately bumps his knee so that he can get some TLC :-)
Kidding! I know the feeling.
Of course I will be here next week. My Saturday mornings are looked forward to see what you are up to.
I think I would have preferred to see a bolt-on solution for the tray. Like you said there are a lot of those saws in the shops. A guy could make a few based on your pattern, and people could bolt them on without having to pull the saw apart and paint anything. Also I think the sump would be better on the outside and removable so you can dump it and refill it easily. Maybe add a handle to the top of it. Of course I'm spending more time talking than doing! Lol. Looks like your wife is a little bit bored. You could have her filming or welding something. You should also call Adam and ask him about getting one of his shop aprons (of course yours will require about half the material. Lol!)
Thanks for sharing! I Came across a pump yesterday!
Great job, thanks.
Hey Steve, if you need a little pump like that and you have a local HVAC supply house near by, you can probably pick up a condensation pump, off the shelf.
Very Cool! :-) I'm planning quite a few improvements to my saw and I will definitely have to include flood coolant.
Very nicely done Steve.
I have had mine for over 20 YEARS...with my home made cooing system...I like your approach! Very well done. I made a nice 12 x 12 inch table to use it to hand cut 1/8" thick AL as well....LOL....I just sit on the back-end and have learned how to stop it with my leg! EDIT ADDITION....it WAS flimsy as all get out...Mine did not come with shelf....only when I added one out of necessity was it ridged....
Great job Steve. Well thought out. Once painted to match saw, it will look like it was there from day one. Hope your knee feels better. I'm sure it does.
You will want to put a back flow preventer (check valve) on the coolant line to keep the coolant readily available. We put them on our misters. I hate waiting for the coolant.
It,s to see back good job back
Looking awesome!!! Thanks for sharing Steve!!!
Love your professional master class on CAD design. I am surprised you had time to finish the job with the huge investment of time!
I have one of those saws only in green. Like your mods may have to make one like that. I have found that the hardware supplied will not stay tight. That makes the legs wobbly. Thank for sharing!
I started watching this channel during the Do-All Banswaw rebuild. Wondering where that project ended up?
Nice! I was just modding out my HF saw myself.
will be interesting on how it works…i did a video on my larger saw and control of coolant…suggest a small weir in your pan to stop chips entering the drain hole
Great job but you will eventually need a larger drain port as it will clog at a bad time. Like what you think you need x3. Or at least a baffle to keep the aluminum from going into the coolant drain. Or a ss brillo pad over the hole, cheap simple easy.
Bit of steel wool from the lathe will work well there, and you get plenty of free new one as well from the stringy steel or aluminium cutting jobs.
Good upgrade
Funny, mine is exactly like that but painted olive green and says "Delta" on it. So much for buying a name brand! Mine must have come out of the same factory as Steve's. Great project! I can't wait to get started on mine.
Funny, I've been using one of these since the mid-eighties, long considered this whole notion, and in particular, the portability being the primary consideration. Incredibly, I've got the exact same pencil sharpener, sitting on my bench as well. Thanks for a good plan, and well thought out design, very well considered.
same cad system I have. I think I would put a shelf in the tank for the pump to sit on so the chips that get in the tank have a place to settle out.
Super cool - using tools to make other tools better. Can’t wait for part 2. 👍😎👍
Good job man now I wanna do it to my saw
This is the best video of yours I have seen. The editing and content is great!
Good morning Steve! Watching you lift the saw on to the legs, the "Good Idea Fairy" visited me. Build the tank as part of leg extensions (remember I'm 6' 3" and getting old so I can't been over as well as I use to.)
I can see you struggled a bit with welding the corners of the sheet metal. Take a solid piece of Aluminum or cobber and clamp it in place inside . Then crank up the welding amps and begin welding on the Aluminum or cobber and move towards the top of the joint and weld towards the bottom of the joint. That way you get a nice finish inside and the heat is concentrated at the bottom where you need it the most for penetrating the metal.
I usually use a longer piece of square stock alu and clamp it in the vise at a 45 degree angle. Then clamp the sheet metal to the alu sticking out and since I got the joint pointing straight up I can hit both sides equally and gravity helps making a uniformed inside weld fitting the corner profile of the alu.
I figured if he's a welder by trade he would have known that, maybe he did heavy industry welding...pipes and holding tanks etc. I was thinking the same while watching him struggle with some of the welds.
Probably just his new machine and settings more than anything. Also welding on anything from harbor freight is more difficult because the cheap ass pot metal they use is full of contaminates.
Steve I was wondering if you could do a video on your new Weld pro. I just purchased one too
There are no good videos out there on this particular machine how to work the settings.
I think that would be a good topic.
Great idea, will do one myself.
Dont forget a screen so metal shavings dont enter the pump. Nice work!
Hi Steve The video just makes me realize I need a Saw. I’ll start with a Saw to Mr. P’s upgrades and then yours good day thank you for the video
CAD=Cardboard aided design 😂😂😂
You beat me to it!! 😄
Lol, that's great...
Watching you and your wife makes my day😁
I bet the Do-All saw sitting under a tarp, wants to move in to the shop, and hang out with all the other Do-All branded equipment. You could have a matching set of machines soon!
Nice project, seemed to come together quickly, mostly because Elizabeth was there for moral support and first aid...
Very cool add on.
Cool improvement, you can never have too many bandsaw"s . You've been hangin out with ricky I see
@1:55 Thought you were taking over from This Old Tony for a minute there....