The great thing about disc is there are so many different ways of playing it. Personally i go haste,crit, mastery as my stat prio and i like the talent that can make flash heal instant and no mana as well as the talent that reduces the CD of inner focus and penance. I pretty much will never use heal or flash heal. If a target isnout of range of atonement i will either penance or greater heal and make sure to use inner focus anytime i need to use either greater heal or prayer of healing.
This! It’s at a really nice place in cata, where we definitely have a few different options and tbh I really like it! Ive seen a few people say they won’t use heal etc, and I see your point… whereas I’ve always liked playing it when needed, making use of both atonement & also direct heals. 😁
In my opinion u should not use heal as a filler. If there is less to none dmg incoming just use smit/holy Fire to keep up evangelism stacks and it also can proc divine aegis and since it will mainly heal tanks in low dmg phases it has always Full value Thank u for the Video very much Info and things to try out keep up the good work 👍
Dont go ench go tailoring and engineering for the glove ench from engineering and the int ench from tailoring also engineering gives u 480 int on gloves and tailoring gives u 500 int on back if i remember correct.
Why would you spec into soul warding? You don’t spam shields anymore. You track your rapture cd and use shield accordingly, on main tank usually. Combined with other issues already mentioned (inspiration, stat priority etc) this guide is terrible lmao.. also heal as filler spell? What about smite/holy fire - it’s cheap, does dmg, stacks evangelism, smart heals
@@ethan23871 because I’m always trying to get better and there might be small nuances I’ve overlooked. But this video is clearly done by someone who’s never played disc priest in cata. (Long time cata player on pservers here). Nice clown emoji
@@tomasharcuba999 I think you missed my point. You are not the target audience of this video. It’s an introduction for people who have never played the class. I learned a lot about disc priest from this video. I’ve only ever played resto shaman and Druid but I’m pretty sure I can deduce from his explanation that I need to be using smite and holy fire. It’s kinda what he talks about for a lot of the video? Also icy veins guide literally has the same stat priority as this guy so idk why you felt the need to leave a negative comment when you’re wrong.
@@ethan23871 I comment on these videos because I am aware of the target audience and I dont want people to get misled by someone who has clearly never played disc priest. Dont you think its kinda sus he was putting out guides on every single spec in the game before cata content even came out? And I dont really care about icy veins as it is super reductive. The 10+ old tauri veins guide does its job much better.
I Play Goblin on retail and classic and the rocket Jump is just insane in harder fights so u can position faster and pump while others have to move or being able to Save ppl with your grip
I just spam smite and holy fire and it works great especially on fights with increased damage which are many in phase 1 I make focus target macro so i don't need to take boss in target, cause i always smite the same target the mt is damaging. also i proc wings and regen mana all the time. also i use free flash heal which heals for 40+k easy for free and also can proc free flash heal which is insane. use the free 45 seconds heal on mass heal spell( sorry i don't know the names of these spells cause i play another language)
No ur not ”holy with shield” u Use smite and holy fire mainly. Prayer of healing in aoe situations and flash heal / binding heal for quick emergencies. Dont listen to this guy he was wrong on many points so i would either watch guides on icyveins or other websites or watch hc raids to see how other disc priests play.
Stat priority is completely incorrect, haste is the most important depending on the haste breakpoints, IE with 3/3 darkness and 5% raid haste and 14% from borrowed time you want 15.52% haste from gear to reach the 37.52% haste... next stat is crit, and that's because your main heal is PoH and how divine aegis works with prayer of healing, a PoH crit puts a DA shield of over 70% of the heal amount which is beyond OP....mastery becomes extremely low value when you take this into account.
Yea I agree. I'm going haste-crit- mastery. Id rather have slightly smaller shields proccing more often than bigger shields proccing less often. Also faster smites is just straight up more healing thru put
I am doing as you said still people kick me from raids because i have bad heal but i have full normal items and playing normal radi :D i guess dbm doesnt show absorption amount
Yea mana is rough at 85 so you'll probably want to use it every time it's up cuz it's only 30 sec CD. Also for the extra healing. Once you have enough spirit it's not a big CD and you can wait to use it when people are taking damage
I'm happy to provide some info around it if you'd like! For anyone reading - it applies a 10% physical dmg reduction to targets of your heals. Although this may sound phenomenal, it''s really only useful on the tanks (most of the time, unless a specific encounter has everyone taking physical damage). Others may be providing it though, like Disc/Holy priests or even resto shamans, so do be mindful of this if taking it. Hope that helps!
You can also play old school and not choose dps talents. It is not an obligation. I used to play classic discipline without this bad habit to dps ;-) and it worked very fine.
And choose to not take a 15% additional healing window every 30 seconds. U can even take no talents and go in melee to avoid that bad habit to cast spells. Bäh magic.
I wouldn't say doing DPS is a bad habit? Personally I just think atonement is hella fun but to each their own. Atonement is much more mana efficient though since smite and holy fire are your lowest costing spells and heal more than heal and holy fire heals more than flash heal with the same speed and again, 5% mana back every 30 seconds and 15% additional healing is really nice especially if you use it with CDs
as a brand new player I apperciate this, by far my favorite guide, because this game is confsin lol!!!
23 spellpower is not better plz go 40 int on ring thx
The great thing about disc is there are so many different ways of playing it. Personally i go haste,crit, mastery as my stat prio and i like the talent that can make flash heal instant and no mana as well as the talent that reduces the CD of inner focus and penance.
I pretty much will never use heal or flash heal. If a target isnout of range of atonement i will either penance or greater heal and make sure to use inner focus anytime i need to use either greater heal or prayer of healing.
This! It’s at a really nice place in cata, where we definitely have a few different options and tbh I really like it!
Ive seen a few people say they won’t use heal etc, and I see your point… whereas I’ve always liked playing it when needed, making use of both atonement & also direct heals. 😁
u think flash heal are useless ? u delete him ?
In my opinion u should not use heal as a filler. If there is less to none dmg incoming just use smit/holy Fire to keep up evangelism stacks and it also can proc divine aegis and since it will mainly heal tanks in low dmg phases it has always Full value
Thank u for the Video very much Info and things to try out keep up the good work 👍
A tip I would throw in here is to pretty much always only use Prayer of Mending on melee and tanks.
It depends on the fight imo. Tank will always be a good choice though I agree on that! 😁
Dont go ench go tailoring and engineering for the glove ench from engineering and the int ench from tailoring also engineering gives u 480 int on gloves and tailoring gives u 500 int on back if i remember correct.
And as far as the Ring Echant, isn't 40 int to rings better?
Yes
Why would you spec into soul warding? You don’t spam shields anymore. You track your rapture cd and use shield accordingly, on main tank usually. Combined with other issues already mentioned (inspiration, stat priority etc) this guide is terrible lmao.. also heal as filler spell? What about smite/holy fire - it’s cheap, does dmg, stacks evangelism, smart heals
I use the talent that reduces cd on penance and inner focus. People tend to forget, that inner focus’s crit buff is op, since crit procs DA
Why watch a guide if you know how to play the class and spec 🤡
@@ethan23871 because I’m always trying to get better and there might be small nuances I’ve overlooked. But this video is clearly done by someone who’s never played disc priest in cata. (Long time cata player on pservers here). Nice clown emoji
@@tomasharcuba999 I think you missed my point. You are not the target audience of this video. It’s an introduction for people who have never played the class. I learned a lot about disc priest from this video. I’ve only ever played resto shaman and Druid but I’m pretty sure I can deduce from his explanation that I need to be using smite and holy fire. It’s kinda what he talks about for a lot of the video? Also icy veins guide literally has the same stat priority as this guy so idk why you felt the need to leave a negative comment when you’re wrong.
@@ethan23871 I comment on these videos because I am aware of the target audience and I dont want people to get misled by someone who has clearly never played disc priest. Dont you think its kinda sus he was putting out guides on every single spec in the game before cata content even came out? And I dont really care about icy veins as it is super reductive. The 10+ old tauri veins guide does its job much better.
What about Goblin Race for 1% haste?
Don’t forget about the rock jump ability as well!
I think all races are good. Personally I play undead because I like being able to get out of fears and I also pvp
I Play Goblin on retail and classic and the rocket Jump is just insane in harder fights so u can position faster and pump while others have to move or being able to Save ppl with your grip
I just spam smite and holy fire and it works great especially on fights with increased damage which are many in phase 1
I make focus target macro so i don't need to take boss in target, cause i always smite the same target the mt is damaging. also i proc wings and regen mana all the time. also i use free flash heal which heals for 40+k easy for free and also can proc free flash heal which is insane. use the free 45 seconds heal on mass heal spell( sorry i don't know the names of these spells cause i play another language)
The profession enchants are out of date. Lightweave rank 2 is 580 int for 15 seconds; Ring is +40 int.
Loving this content!
Thankyou!!!
does the shield still affect rage generation and the pally threat thing (cant remember the name)
It does not. This was removed in WOTLK.
@@brycejenkins6949 sweet thanks for info
“Disc Priest Druid Stat Priority” - nice
OMG LMAO
Great guide Disci prej 🔥💪
love yor video like that guide
Glad to hear!
Is heal ever worth using over smite? I find they heal for a similar amount
it is not worth it
no heal is a garbage spell which you shouldn't ever use.
helpful video, some major growing pains switching from the wotlk disc mindset
Yeah, it's definitely getting more towards the "retail" Disc mindset now
Oo thanks im gonna start from next week and i wanna start disc priest for the first time, I've only played dps in private servers
lucky u they been nerfed since Wotlk so u wont feel the pain we did
Everyone bring your conshoomables?
I thought the proper disc healin began in cata. I was wrong. Basically ur holy with shield. when does disc heal through smite?
You can see it starting in cata, and it just keeps going deeper each next xpac
No ur not ”holy with shield” u Use smite and holy fire mainly. Prayer of healing in aoe situations and flash heal / binding heal for quick emergencies. Dont listen to this guy he was wrong on many points so i would either watch guides on icyveins or other websites or watch hc raids to see how other disc priests play.
Stat priority is completely incorrect, haste is the most important depending on the haste breakpoints, IE with 3/3 darkness and 5% raid haste and 14% from borrowed time you want 15.52% haste from gear to reach the 37.52% haste...
next stat is crit, and that's because your main heal is PoH and how divine aegis works with prayer of healing, a PoH crit puts a DA shield of over 70% of the heal amount which is beyond OP....mastery becomes extremely low value when you take this into account.
You're a moron..😆
Yea I agree. I'm going haste-crit- mastery.
Id rather have slightly smaller shields proccing more often than bigger shields proccing less often. Also faster smites is just straight up more healing thru put
ALL the online resources for ALL classes have haste breakpoints. you want around 916 then the bonus is miniscule until you hit about 2000
Absolutely FANTASTIC guide. Holy cow you are thorough.
I am doing as you said still people kick me from raids because i have bad heal but i have full normal items and playing normal radi :D i guess dbm doesnt show absorption amount
🙌
Is archangel used a lot? Leveling, I only use for the 1% mana as my evangelism and 1 shield on tank easily does the work.
Used on CD pretty much
Yea mana is rough at 85 so you'll probably want to use it every time it's up cuz it's only 30 sec CD. Also for the extra healing. Once you have enough spirit it's not a big CD and you can wait to use it when people are taking damage
not even mentioning Inspiration in the Holy tree is a big nono.
I'm happy to provide some info around it if you'd like!
For anyone reading - it applies a 10% physical dmg reduction to targets of your heals. Although this may sound phenomenal, it''s really only useful on the tanks (most of the time, unless a specific encounter has everyone taking physical damage). Others may be providing it though, like Disc/Holy priests or even resto shamans, so do be mindful of this if taking it.
Hope that helps!
@@JaviHeals "others might bring it like disc priests"
This is a guide about disc priests
Yeah, there can be OTHER disc priests... You need to communicate with your team to discuss who's bringing what.
@@JaviHeals there should never be other disc priests
@@JaviHealsheard of weakened soul? there will not be other disc priests.
my favorite part is where he doesn't go over the rotation at all
He did. maybe rewatch the video.
You can also play old school and not choose dps talents. It is not an obligation. I used to play classic discipline without this bad habit to dps ;-) and it worked very fine.
And choose to not take a 15% additional healing window every 30 seconds. U can even take no talents and go in melee to avoid that bad habit to cast spells. Bäh magic.
How is adding in extra dps when possible ever a bad habit? I'm confused
@@MrFamouzLTDbad healers believe this to cope with how they afk 40% of combat time
Sounds like u should play Holy priest instead then
I wouldn't say doing DPS is a bad habit? Personally I just think atonement is hella fun but to each their own. Atonement is much more mana efficient though since smite and holy fire are your lowest costing spells and heal more than heal and holy fire heals more than flash heal with the same speed and again, 5% mana back every 30 seconds and 15% additional healing is really nice especially if you use it with CDs
Mastery>Hast AHHAHAHAHAAH nop ur wrong
Depends on your disc playstyle