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- Mike Eaton tells Jeff Ford which automotive coil springs can be safely cut. Also: which tools to cut them with.
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The end of a coil spring determines if you can cut it. Square ends and pigtail ends can't be cut because you cannot reform the end without ruining the spring. Only cut a coil spring with a tangential end - that is a spring that ends as if it could have continued its pattern forever.
Never use heat to cut a coil spring. Heat anneals the spring steel, making it brittle. Use a cutoff wheel or a hacksaw (with plenty of elbow grease).
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Finally a video that’s quick and simple and the tells you exactly what to do and what not to do
10 year old TH-cam video wisdom right here lolll. I’m here for my W210, going to cut some new Eibach springs soon, wbu?
great advice. gave me confidence to cut my lowering coils
finaly a good explanation on cutting coils ,Ive been cutting mine and it handles and looks so much better , and its free , well except the alignment
Good video, straight to the Point and no BS. Thanks Guys!
Keep in mind cutting coils will change alignment; you'll have more positive camber (top of wheel sticks out more, bottom goes in) and if the tie rods are BEHIND the front wheel, it'll be more pigeon-toed, so shorten the tie rods. Do the opposite if they're in the front. The crucial part is toe-in, that'll wipe off your tire edges in short order if the wheels are toed in or out too much; a lot more than camber issues will.
it is always best have your vehicle re-aligned after doing any front end work.
Are you not mistaken? Lowering a car will give you negative camber, the top of the wheel will stick back in and the bottom will stick out more.
It depends on the suspension if it changes camber, and how it changes. It will also change the camber curve on double wishbone cars.
This video gave me the confidence to do this on my oem spec front springs, and remove the all sagged out h&r front springs, i just want that my car doesnt look higher at the front and the h&r is too low now
Great video, as for how much to cut, cut less than you think it'll take and keep checking it in the car. If you cut off too much, you're screwed and need new springs. For example I know cutting two coils out of a 2wd GM half ton is too much, it'll bottom out constantly.
Dont use a hack saw you'll be there when rust starts setting in on the spring use cut off wheel.
Nice work
Does it matter where the square end of the coil sits on the top? I have progressive lowering springs and want to drop it half an inch more. So maybe a quarter coil? Or does it have to sit 180° from where the spring sits in the perch..? I have tein s springs for z32..
I have a Porsche Cayenne without air suspension and wanted to order H&R lowering springs. The company says that it drops the vehicle 1.6" front and rear. But it also says it depends on the way the vehicle settles. If I wanted to do a 3" drop what would I do? Can I order the spring from you guys instead? I wanted a more aggressive/ sportier look and feel. Thanks
can u cut factory coils on.a.2004 altima
Digrinder works great
Can i cut on 2015 durango r/t front and rear coils ?
How bad does it affect the ride if you cut the spring to those specs?
Im now cutting the springs on my ls400
I cut one coil from the front of my mustang gt and it dropped 2.5 inches. looks and handles great. Video is posted.
Is it safe to do it?
@@johnvanlandingham8832 call somebody else. A flat bed can pull the car up on the truck no problem at all. There is also enough clearance to lift it from the front.
@@johnvanlandingham8832 my mustang is gone. I'm riding in a big ole hemi Ram truck. Low ride height is no longer an issue lol
now i put eibach lowering springs on my 2013 dodge charger. it dropped it 1.5 inches but it is still too high for my liking. i would like to drop it about one more inch. how much spring should i cutt to achieve this?
Has anyone tried a olasma cutter?
I cut steel in seconds and can practically pick it up with bare hands immediately after.
Would it be ok to cut springs on a 2015 Dodge RT? I am considering it.
You can,but only cut half cool at a time.
what hacksaw should i use or what angle grinder in order to cut it ?
Just get a cheap metal cut off wheel from harbour frieght..or if you have air a cheap air cut off tool. Youll be there for a day cutting with a hacksaw.
I bought lowering springs on my 2004 Honda Accord I need cut 2 Inc off my front d2racing springs how much do I cut please let me know thanks you
I'm sure you've already done this but for anyone else that may be curious measure the height of the spring; say its 14 1/4 walk your tape measure around the coil until you hit 13 1/4, cut there and you'll get 2" (1" at the spring is 2" at the body). Do this for every coil, don't just assume every coil you purchased will be 14 1/4 (or whatever your height might be) right on the dot, it most likely is but it's better to make sure so you buy once cry once, and always cut the tangential ends.
Go slow and steady, half an inch, or one inch first just to be sure... but honestly, if you've purchased lowing springs and are taking even more off I would ditch them and purchase coilovers, you can find them all day for a Honda, K&N, Tien, Silk Road (those may be RWD Nissan/86 Corolla specific), etc.
So, typically you take the distance you want to drop the vehicle, and cut half that distance on the spring? Does that go for any amount of drop? If I just want a 1/2 inch drop, I should cut 1/4 inch off the tangential end? Or 1 inch...cut 1/2 inch of the tangential end?
Because once the spring is cut you can not add back to it, so we say to only cut off 1/2 of the amount of drop you need. after re-installing the springs and driving her, you may need to repeat the process. Better safe than sorry.
@@EatonDetroitSpring Another question. I just bought a set of your springs. Upon measuring them both, there is 1/4in difference free height between the 2 springs. Is this normal?
@@poweredbywinchester7070Yes, that is normal. It is the nature of larger hot wound coil springs to vary in free height. In fact, the tolerances on some springs by design allow for up to 1/2-inch difference in free height. Because how coils start to take up loads this difference is quickly diminished. Nothing to be concerned about.
Ive heard cuttin springs changes the spring rate is this true and if so would this make is stiffer or looser or would it depend on the amount of drop??
Makes it stiffer BUT u still lose flex and you can still bottom out
I just bought a car that is lower in the front. The suspension is super stiff. Could that be the fault of lowering springs.
It could be the fault of the springs, or it could be the shocks. A quick way to find out is to take the shocks off and drive it and see if the ride quality changes. If so, its the shocks, if not, its the springs.
what kind of spring is ok to cut? meaning what makes r ok to cut?
Might want to re watch the video..the springs they are showing are for classic cars.
Is their a difference between the driver side and passenger side springs.
On some vehicles, yes. What do you have?
@@EatonDetroitSpring I have a 1981 GMC CABALLERO better known as an EL CAMINO.
@@desertftt Same spring on both sides.
@@EatonDetroitSpring oh good thank you.
all the ricers watching this so they can get an idea on how to cut there stock springs
***** Right on the spot haha
funny,global west does it too,so does hotchkis suspension,so does detriot speed...so are you right or are the guys who do this for a living right? i know who i trust,and it aint you jackass.
Somehow you’re here with them🤡
I mean cutting coils really applies to any vehicle with this type of coil spring....not just "ricers"
i’m only cutting them because i’m ordering coilovers. they’re tein lowering springs so aftermarket but i wanna go lower and my bc racing coilovers gonna take too long before they’re here:)
I need to raise my rear suspension vehicle chevelle any ideas
of course we have an idea or two on how to raise her. Go to our website, www.eatondetroitspring.com/findmy vehicle and click your way to her. Then select to amount of extra height you would like from stock factory height, 2-inch max, and order away. Call us if you need any help 313-963-3839.
Can you explain why you cut 1 inch worth of spring to get a 2 inch drop?
If you cut off 1-inch of the free length of the coil, that is it is out of the vehicle, then the vehicle will drop one inch, not 2.
@@EatonDetroitSpring Thank you! In the video he says if you want to lower 2 inches for example, then cuts 1 inch so it sounds like he mis-spoke
So a one inch cut equals to two inches drop?
+marvin greene You asked this two years ago and still no answer. The dude was on another video and he wasn't clear about how much to cut on that one also. WTF From the best that I could figure on what the hell he meant is if you measure from the tip end of the coil and project a straight edge horizontally across the spring until 1 in is measured between the top of the spring wire and the bottom of the strait edge, this will give you a 1 inch drop. It just so happened that it took cutting off a 2 inch length of the spring's wire to equal that 1 inch measurement. I wouldn't take that 2 inch length of spring wire as always being equal to a 1 inch drop because some springs may be coiled looser or tighter making the height at 2 inches of coil wire more or less than 1 inch.
1" to the spring is 2" to the body, typically.
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First person to torch their springs: OH SHI-
I'm pretty sure they DO know what they're talking about
Guys are asking good questions......
Those are gm type springs for full size car or pic up.
Be careful.....
Why i can't cut square end ?
Think about it..........if you cut off the square end it is no longer square and the spring will no longer fit into the pocket correctly.
@@EatonDetroitSpring , yes it won't touch along the whole rim , but if i put a protection plate to save the parts from damaging ( because area of contact is low now so pressure will be high) would it function well? I am short guy this is the only way to ride my dream bike , so plz answer
@@debarghyachattopadhyay2614 A square end coil is designed to make contact along the complete end of the coil. If you wish to redesign it that is your decision.
@@EatonDetroitSpringyou guys know better than me sir . so what problems may i face ?
@@debarghyachattopadhyay2614 Cutting off the square end will not allow the coil to sit correctly on the spring seat. This may allow the spring to act as it should.
What about the saying if a coil spring is a certain rate and you make it shorter or longer you will change that given spring rate. So if I were to cut the coils on the front of my 09 Vic I would in turn make them stiffer or more resistant to bound and rebound? I think I'll just stick to buying springs from you guys since your the only people on this planet that make them for one of the most popular ( specially now they are cheeeeep and there are billions of them all over the world) cars . never understood why there isn't more companies making suspension kits for the crown Vic, I mean its not like there front suspension is the new mustang 2 swap or you can put any engine/trans in them or that they are one of the most balanced and predictable chassis I've ever driven , but I will be getting some springs from you guys this .....spring......ehhh, ehhhh that's a coil joke, I kill me!
Springs are cheap these days. But cutting off a coil slightly increases spring rate which is what you want when lowering a car, to keep it from bottoming out.
@@nobodynoone2500 I ended up cutting 1.5 coils from the front and oddly enough the springs from a 07 gt500 track pack not only fit and matched the ride hight I was looking for but it also matched the spring rates of the now just slightly stiffer fronts. Ride quality was comparable to that of a 2016/2017 Volvo XC90 R design. Sadly two years ago my Vic was stolen so I bought a 2016 AWD hemi pursuit charger👹
never play soccer in the dark
thesouth50 WTF does playing soccer in the dark got do with cutting coils.
@@boronin10 hahaha sorry bro. I literally just saw my comment. I'm not sure why that comment was on this video. It was supposed to be a comment I left on a funny video where some dudes were playing drunk soccer in the dark. I'm not even sure how it got on this spring video???? Maybe it was my raggedy iPhone messing up
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What if you eat glass in a diaper first?
Why not just press it to lower the free length save the rate and some what save the loads. Save the spring from as you said microscopic cracks that from from cutting.
If your interested I can start at thirty to thirty five an hour 401k medical dental vision am open to negotiations and you have to move me. Just kidding!! Great channel watched all of your videos
Taint so easy. in order to do the springs would have to be compressed past their yield point and coil bind, that is the coils touching each other, would hapen long before the yield point is reached. Plus, i never recall saying anything about microscopic cracks. Thanks for watching and spread the word.
@@EatonDetroitSpring I appreciate your reply. What I meant by microscopic cracks is what you referred to as changing the molecules of the steel while heating over 400 degrees, it becomes brittle it may shatter worst case scenario unlikely with around half inch wire but I have definitely seen it happen straight from the feed on a cold coiler with .64 wire. I am unfamiliar with open end suspension springs. You definitely gave me a better Idea of why they can be cut and not pressed reviewing your video. You are the first person to actually reach out and answer my question. No worries where I work we do not do open ends but having more knowledge helps. Also from what I have seen on other youtube channels regarding springs you know what you're talking about. I am by far no master grinder or coiler but I am good at what I do and seek the knowledge of others. I apologize for being cocky and the essay but thanks again. I will definitely spread the word.
@@lancergt13lancer32 I never interpreted you as being cocky, I viewed you as someone who had a question and looking for more knowledge. You would be surprised just how small of a wire can be that breaks after heating it. As for our knowledge, we, unlike all the others one can find on You Tube, actually manufactures springs, and has been doing so since 1937. So we think we have a bit of advantage over those who simply buy and sell springs.
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A round of the coil is a inch of a drop.
That would depend on how tight the coils are wound. On some, lees than an inch and on others way more than an inch. It is best to do it the way we described in the video.
Never ever cut springs; buy new ones
joel, you are right. But sometimes it happens and when it does, we want it done the right way.
These guys have no idea how suspension and shock absorbers works xD
The correct method of lowering a car involves replacing the stock shocks and springs with lowered shocks and springs. Lowered suspension components are readily available for almost all cars. You really should never cut springs and never put shorter springs on a stock shock absorber. Steering, braking and suspension are vital to your car handling safely on the road and dodgy backyard suspension modifications are just outright fucking dangerous. Especially when done by people who have no experience or understanding of what they're actually doing.
In the perfect world you are mostly correct. However, in the real world there are plenty of automotive nuts who must work with what they have. With this in mind, we try to help them do what they must the right way.