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There is another thing. It could confirm that some people have "toxic personality" towards plants. I've heard it a few times about some person, that couldn't grow any plants, because they all withered. They were watered and given fertilizer, yet after moving to this person's home, a few months later that plant was gone. Interesting stuff 😏
I once read forests in eastern USA were studied during insect invasions that would damage the trees. Within three years, the invasions would subside. It was discovered that pheromones were released by infected trees. Trees receiving those pheromones would start producing anti-insect chemicals in their sap. It took three years for the pheromones from the infected trees to be absorbed and re-emitted to the other side of the forest. Its awesome to see that process in more detail!
I have been doing "plant contact" in my greenhouse. Every plant in some way touches the one next to it. After I started this 2 winters ago, the overwintering growth has been noticeably better. I got this idea from the Aspin in Colorado. Didn't know they were talking though.
Most of the time, a combine harvester is harvesting already dead plants. A better example would be lawn mowing. A human comes along and basically rips off part of every plant. Nearby plants probably go insane. If there is any "thoughts" or sentience, there is a possibility that they may reduce their reactions in time as they will realize it doesn't normally kill them. It would be like if a human child were to see some massive monster rip off the arms of another human but are unable to run. That fear can be measured with chemical testing and such, but chemical testing isn't going to explain what it's like to that human child to be scared like that. Maybe plants are similar and we just don't have the equipment and technology to measure it.
Personally, I have always held plants and fungi in the highest esteem, now a gardener and horticultural lecturer. My Damascene moment came in my early years when watching 'Tomorrow's World' - the presenter was showing us what would happen when a cabbage was boiled, wired up to equipment of the time, she explained how the oscilloscope would show the equivalent of an 'electronic scream' as all the cells died. I never quite got over that one - thank goodness. So next time you pop that potato in the microwave! Living and breathing just as you and I do! This was fascinating and wondered if the plants were able to not only attract predators but move other compounds in to the vulnerable (non-expendable) parts. Thank you for this and the presentation style.
I've pondered similar. A human is capable of living on fruits and nuts and seeds and similar foods that don't require the death of the plant, but, the way our farming is done, the plant is seen as an object that makes money. There is no real morals. It's kind of how meat farmers are. Sure, meat farmers might limit how far they will go because it doesn't feel right to them, but it would only be because they maybe have experience with other animals like dogs or cats. Nobody thinks about plants. Well, i do. I get sad if a plant of mine dies. I feel guilty if it dies due to something i did or didn't do. Especially if it was an indoor plant. An indoor plant depends on you to care for it. This whole thoughtset though has made me wonder, how do you kill a plant "humanely"? With an animal, you destroy their brain and they're gone. With a plant, a pulled up plant can survive for days before it finally dies. There is so much not known about plants that that is not an easy question to answer.
I've known about these plant reactions since the 70's when reading about it in a book (wish I still had that book) ... but I've always asked myself how humans should interpret these electric/chemical reactions. Why call it a "scream"? That's an anthropomorphic description. Even in animal bodies there are electric/chemical signals going off constantly, they're not always "screams" - in fact, I would say that the vast majority are not "screams" at all.
Lets face it, the natural world is designed in a way that one small critter is consumed by a bigger one up to the top of the food chain and then the very smallest ones eat the biggest predators when they die - rinse and repeat.
Thank you Dr Ben, this is absolutely amazing, I so love all the information coming out about plant life, geeky moss lichen lover over here & don’t get me onto fungi. So whether it be trees & mycelium networks & ‘mother trees’ or this fantastic share of yours today, jaw droopingly wonderful world being slowly revealed to us bit by bit, chemistry as language - simply awesome & of course.
This makes me think that they could give specific signals to attract specific kinds of bugs or species. If they need to move their actual location (or I suppose, their offspring’s location) since there’s more pests around or more deforestation, they might send a scent to nearby wildlife to eat the plant if it’s got berries, or a fuzzy lil guy that’ll take the sticky seeds on its legs to a further area, or other methods of movement. But this tells me that their main thing is they wanna spread, and STAY in their current position if it’s optimal
Amazing research. I will listen to it again at reduced speed to have more understanding. We humans are on the threshold of something else. From the work of Michael Levin on how cells communicate as communities within a body [kidney cells, liver cells, skin cells ... etc] until messages from the impact of the environment outside is communicated to the DNA where changes might occur over a long period of time ... to the work of Dr. Ben Miles here, we are gradually entering a new era of understanding of how biology works. Many thanks.
Wow! Wonder if one could develop a system that would alert if a plant needs more (or less) nutrients & water. Apparently, I must currently be viewed by my garden plants as a threat them. I’d love to know how I’m mistreating the orange tree which begrudgingly produces just 2 oranges a year.
I had a supremely connecting experience some years ago after an intense yoga class/weekend. After shivasana (relaxation pose/corpse pose) I unfolded to moving into postures and poses that lasted a long time. It just was and I knew exactly what to do without any instruction or prior knowledge. Then when I went outside, the trees... my the trees! were bowing to me and I was bowing to them, one by one then in unison they bowed, they saw me - I saw them, they knew me - I knew them, it was such a sacred and blessed time and it lasted days. I actually drove like that with all the trees along the road seeing, knowing, bowing in recognition that I was alive and they were too, seeing and knowing in their way. I saw, I knew, things. When some snow fell each snowflake almost introduced themselves to me, things had slowed down so much. The snowflakes were joyous, almost singing wheeee. Everything was just as it should be and meant to be and there were messages al over the place, plain as plain could be if we just tune in. It was quite the experience. (I was not on anything :) in case you are wondering. It all came about naturally from within my heart and my being from the universe or whatever you like to call that. One message please ....we must not trash our planet. We MUST reduce plastics NOW. We are doing so much damage and plastic makers are damaging our planet, we have glass, we have, paper, we have metals. We DO NOT NEED ALL of these single-use plastics WHATSOEVER. Plastics are toxic, they pollute and kill our environment our fish and animals are in us and in our sacred waters. Also we MUST reduce and eventually eliminate pesticides, herbicides, insecticides. Nature has its own way. We MUST NOT look to )or large corporations) must not make a profit off of plastics, off of these pesticides etc, and they are making money off of the planets misery and other people misery. That must not be a model to follow. We must care more, do more now. We can regenerate soils by doing crop rotation, fallow practices to allow nitrogen etc and soils to recover. We must. We must wake up to our sacred living planet and mind it. Now. We must mind our world, our plants, trees, all living creatures too. Be well.
I am having a very transcendent/everything is connected day today... (I'm also not on any drugs or medications known for inducing that state in human brains... I've just been working with a yoga and meditation coach on allowing and including)... and after several conversations with friends/family (25-12-24 Christmas Day), I came across this information, which, while new to me, is both positively fascinating, AND (based on my experience first neglecting and then learn to grow and tend to plants in and around my home) just makes complete logical and biological sense to me. I hadn't ever thought of smell as a manifestation of communication, though I did realise that colour can also be a way of communicating between people and plants and animals. What a wonder and a marvel!
I feel like adaptations like this in plants are a much stronger case for evolution than animals are because plants intuitively seem to us to have less agency. It makes the “nondirectional” aspect of evolution seem more sensible and even obvious as compared to organisms we might be more inclined to attribute “intent” to.
I always wondered this, as I used to sometimes violently chop the tops of certain bushes or shrubberies on a swampy island as a small kid, pretending to be a super ninja turtle like Leonardo cutting swords, doing flying airkicks and trying out new weapons, to find out the next day the other plants were more sturdy and didnt cut the same way. It was clear they had changed somehow in structure. But being taught they are not clever and do not communicate, this was a mystery to me. Them communicating however would be a great explanation and completely validate my magical thinking that the entire planet and its flora and fauna are magical And no I didnt turn out a psychopath in case you were wondering 😊 it was plants I was focussing my energy on. Yes, I am guilty of also kicking a tree once
We humans excel at explaining things from our perspective. When plants respond to disturbance by producing VOCs, we often label them as distress signals. However, in reality, the plants are simply reacting to changes in their environment, a result of the coevolution of plants and insects. A house plant that appears unhealthy might be signaling its need for more care in a visual way.
@@thekaxmaxyes, but the point is that just the word "distress" has a connotation that implies certain things to some people which makes them tend to anthropomorphize the subject. Several people in the comment section have already used the word "pain" in their response to this. Definitions need to be specific I guess. If we're talking about distress on an emotional level (which is how many people are interpreting this) that's a completely different thing than just defining distress as a non-emotional and painless reaction. People make, sell, and buy distressed furniture - there's no emotional reaction there that humans are interpreting. Definitions matter. Our reactions to words matter.
PLANTS HAVE EMOTIONS? I've been meditating for 20 years now and recently my empathic abilities have become really powerful and I can sense things. I've recently sensed that when I water my pot plant, it radiates great joy, and the thirstier it is, the powerful the good feeling it radiates when I water it. When I trimmed my pot plant it radiates sadness... I can sense it, just like I can sense a lot of feelings from other people. So do plants have emotions? Could this mean they even have thoughts? If so, how do we detect this? Personally, I am 100% certain plants have emotion and possibly thoughts. Scientific research lags far behind the amazing reality that surrounds us.
This is so fascinating. I’ve recently become vegetarian because of the moral implications of the meat industry but if it turns out plants have a form of consciousness, I guess there’s no way to eat without inflicting a certain degree of suffering on something else. I’d be interested to see more videos of plants communicating “pain” (for lack of a better word) if anyone has suggestions.
I think plants' relationship to pain is different to ours. After all they can lose a lot of their body parts and still survive and thrive. So it's not so urgent to avoid the problem. We can't regrow a finger, but they can regrow a branch. So pain has to be a much more urgent signal for us. In any case plants can do little about it since they can only move their parts very slowly if at all. So what is the evolutionary advantage of giving them a pain signal that they can't do anything about? So I think they don't have "pain" as such. Their reactions to these VOCs would likely be like a rash to us, i.e. some local business that doesn't reach consciousness. We're full of mechanisms fighting battles on our behalf, but we don't feel those at all. The only signals that reach our consciousness as "pain" are the ones that our consciousness has the power to do something about, e.g. by taking control of the body to move it out of a dangerous situation. If plants have some kind of central consciousness, what could that control? Maybe the general direction and/or speed of growth, timing of flowering and so on. So the sensations useful to that consciousness would be things like discomfort on one side or the other, lack or excess of water or nutrients, the changing of the seasons, things like that.
@@uazuazu I have to agree with you. I don’t think plants will ever have a sophisticated level of consciousness. We will never be able to comprehend what our pets feel like, like alone our houseplants. 😅 I was listening to a podcast recently that breached the topic that everything might have a form of consciousness. It’s difficult to take the theory seriously considering that if a rock has consciousness and can experience the world but has no agency, it does very little to strengthen our understanding of the human mind, so it’s probably a useless endeavour to consider it a possibility.
i do not think that eating its fruits is painful since it helps to propagate offspring. also once a plant, like a green, matures and has released its seed the THC within its leaves is nearly nill making the leaves very tasty to eat, nice and sweet instead of the bitterness of young leaves...so it may be that the mature plant may give off a chemical or other signal to tell herbavores hey come and eat me...that opens up space then for their offspring to grow..so what is seen as danger and as painful would depend on the plant, its life stage, and what it needs for its survival or the survival of its offspring. clearly more study needs to be done, but at least this gives us evidence that plants are living beings and how we caretake them and their environment matters.
Slightly off topic, but may I ask you why not vegan? If you're doing this due to the "moral implications of the meat industry," isn't going vegan the way to go? Just honestly curious.
That plants can communicate, and with even greater sophistication than described here, is nothing new. “The secret life of plants” (1973) Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird
Awesome video! I'm really interested in seeing if we can train plants to perform basic math or puzzle solving tasks. Then from there, how many houseplants does it take to run DOOM?
If I could talk to plants better, I would tell them "GROW!" This reminds me of a permaculture practice I use in my garden called "chop and drop." Those stress-related VOCs really stimulate growth in my experience.
This perhaps explains why the leaves on oak trees will all seem to turn over when rain is imminent. Like you said, I never imagined this complexity of communication.
I haven't been a regular of your channel but the more I watch the more I like your vids. Thank you. You now have a regular follower. I will be viewing prior vids... binging!
This was a really fascinating video, thank you. It lends one to wonder how much consciousness plants may have. It can be said that our consciousness is just a series of chemical cascades as well.
It took the Emerald Ash Borer 3 years to kill all the Ash on my property. After the first year the reamaining live Ash were loaded with seeds for the next two following years. That was the beggining of my discovery of plant communication. Its mesmorizing how complex life is on our planet
science is proving that those who have been claiming life and intelligence and communication in plants were actually telling the truth...way to go scientists...thank you
Read, "The Secret Life of Plants. It's old but it never gets old. Amazing scientific testing on plants that showcase their ability to read the human mind and react with feeling.
I’m still curious about what they do to adapt to the threat that they are communicating and how that functions with plants with more extensive self defense mechanisms versus those that are more passive
how do wr compare plant communication and communication between other organisms, Does it seem closer to communication between organs or cells, communication between beings
Plant 1: "I'm going nowhere in life. It's like I'm stuck in the dirt all the time. You know what I mean?" Plant 2: "It can feel that way for all of us. I know exactly how you feel."
When learning to bartend I was told that clapping mint or Basil in your hands releases the oils in the leaves making them more fragrant and flavorful but now I can't help but think that it's the VOCs released from the trauma of clapping the leaves in your hand. Which is true?
Another great video, it was super interesting actually, but I need to say this: folk who live among, care for, and eat from plants, can tell you that plants communicate, and even various meanings. This has been so since the dawn of time. They may not know that tiny mouths in a plant spread words of chemistry throughout it, but they can get pretty close at an abstract, yet precise, level. Here we are, 2024, debating the limitations of our understanding of the natural world posed by our shut-in-and-work lifestyle restraints, where we have become such an unreliable source of security for ourselves that most of us would starve if no one grew food FOR us. Food, that grows from the literal ground with minimum supervision. Science is great, but to know things and to understand them isn't the same thing. You can watch a vid, or carry on an experiment or test about a plant. You'll know all great colourful and wonderful things, bombastic sounding words, I love me my -isms. But ultimately it'll all be made up, words and meanings too, just as abstract as the concepts from nature life folk (*1). You know what's great also? life. Spend decades in nature, growing, eating, talking, etc. to plants. Then you'll understand them. And finally, here we are at the culprit. Yes, science great, but life before science, not the other way around, cos we look like cretins talking about "misteries" and "misconceptions" that would best apply to an infant. We currently stand ignorant of the basis of life outside the urban environment. Another way to say this is: we awfully need to grow culturally before we continue wasting effort on obvious misteries that reside outside the lab walls first and foremost.
Years ago, (15-25?) there was similar info in the mainstream/broadcast news, about TREES. . . I’ll never forget the silent “scream” then-science said that trees emit, when they are chopped down!
2:00 so the bee is kinda doing the same as electrolysis to the water and we get hydrogen knocked off. But in this case the electrons were able to be transferred through entanglement and used by the plant.
I don’t think there is a breakdown of a molecule like electrolysis. I believe they are talking about static charges being transferred from positively charged ions in the air onto the bee and then exchanging that static charge with the plant via the pollen. Then the plant, sensing the change in total static charge on itself, triggers the increase in the release of its scent.
@@mkrepps sorry i just hate that you don’t understand the connections i see. Like electrolysis, and how the small electrons are altered or transferred so two does the bee mess with those same quantum particles. Not that it’s the same but there are similarities. I don’t think you understood the connections i was explaining so here you go. Plus you said what was going on, no analogy or anything. The best way to understand is to see how it fits in reality and the similarities it shared to be able to continue happening. Patterns in the connections and a shared pattern between the bee and electrolysis is transferring that positive charge caused by that friction. So yeah build charge and share like quantum mechanics but understood through the connections. Reality combines differences through its connections and that’s why humans are goofy we don’t see the truth, we see the difference because that’s what we evolved doing but now we realize there’s no separation, just sharing the energy through these differences by the connections. That’s why analogies are important, to be able to share portions like how our brains absorb a portion and then reflect it out back into reality into a different form like a choice of action or thought written on paper.
@@mkrepps i was kinda upset you don’t understand analogies but I’ll help you. In electrolysis, the free electron is used to knock off a hydrogen atom from H2O. In the bees case the positive electrons are transferred to the plant kinda like the electron moving into the hydrogen atom and and pushing it off but instead of pushing off the plant it stimulates a reaction. So yeah it’s pretty similar.
Humans: mmmmm freshly cut grass, such a pleasant smell! Grass: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!! Orcs: (also) WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!! Coincidence?
VOC… so it’s not really the Freon that’s changing atmosphere but the trees screaming from forestry in South America creating VOC’s ultimately harming the atmosphere. But I still can’t get a plastic straw for my latte. Great.
How amazing would it be if we asked permission and a plant offered themselves. With the premise that one day the human too will offer themselves up to the earth when they die…
You asked. I would say: "Hello, my friends". And yes, I do, almost everyday, despite they, most probably, don't speak my language. My dog also doesn't, but... he understands. Maybe, just maybe, maybe, with thousands of questionmarks, due to 300 Ma of coevolution with land animals, plants can somewhat understand my chemical signalling. Oh. Yes. I'm still somewhat influenced by Fatima Cvrčková. Not a mainstream, nevertheless respected, scientist. I enjoyed your video, thumbs up, keep on, sincerely, Peter.
you use the same pic for every 3rd thumbnail, not saying it is wrong, but it could cause some people to think they already watched the video if they only look on the thumbnail, but maybe Im wrong, just saying
This is the kind of thing people have known about for a while but "scientist" insist it's not possible because they don't have the proof then they find the proof and go "isn't that amazing"
Omg. I suddenly feel bad for all the potted plants. Are they cut off from the rest of the plants? Isolated and alone?!? Would they be like the homeless in the plant world (although they have homes). People own them!!! Omg slavery. What are we gonna do? We gotta free them. Tomorrow at noon TIP OVER all potted plants. Set them free set them FReEeEEeE!!
More water or less water, plants might be finally able to tell us. Too late for most of my house plants unfortunately
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Oh, no. What are vegans going to eat now?
Do we know the signals for more or less water yet, and can we build low-price sensors that can detect them?
There is another thing. It could confirm that some people have "toxic personality" towards plants. I've heard it a few times about some person, that couldn't grow any plants, because they all withered. They were watered and given fertilizer, yet after moving to this person's home, a few months later that plant was gone. Interesting stuff 😏
Holy moly!!! Hate to see what happens when they encounter a Karen!!! 😮 teehehehe 😊 have a super awesome day
I once read forests in eastern USA were studied during insect invasions that would damage the trees. Within three years, the invasions would subside. It was discovered that pheromones were released by infected trees. Trees receiving those pheromones would start producing anti-insect chemicals in their sap. It took three years for the pheromones from the infected trees to be absorbed and re-emitted to the other side of the forest.
Its awesome to see that process in more detail!
I have been doing "plant contact" in my greenhouse. Every plant in some way touches the one next to it. After I started this 2 winters ago, the overwintering growth has been noticeably better. I got this idea from the Aspin in Colorado. Didn't know they were talking though.
It always comes down to electricity.
Aspen
roots probably always connected, but the more biomass you have the more heat retained
This video never got into the communication happening in the underground root system. Have you taken that into account?
You could also be creating a better micro climate, its especially good if you mix it up with multiple tiers.
The world around us is amazing! Thanks for sharing.
Holy crap. One can only imagine the level of chemical hysteria they produce when confronted with a combine harvester.
So the smell of freshly cut grass is a mass terror-warning...
Damn.
Most of the time, a combine harvester is harvesting already dead plants. A better example would be lawn mowing. A human comes along and basically rips off part of every plant. Nearby plants probably go insane. If there is any "thoughts" or sentience, there is a possibility that they may reduce their reactions in time as they will realize it doesn't normally kill them. It would be like if a human child were to see some massive monster rip off the arms of another human but are unable to run. That fear can be measured with chemical testing and such, but chemical testing isn't going to explain what it's like to that human child to be scared like that. Maybe plants are similar and we just don't have the equipment and technology to measure it.
When mowing the grass. Imagine that. @@sterlingarcher5698
Great, first I couldn't eat meat because it's cruel, now I can't eat plants either. Guess I'll die
@@outbakjak Fruit and nuts
To those plants, I would say: "In case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight!"
Whenever you find yourself Alone in a Forest, Think Again.
Personally, I have always held plants and fungi in the highest esteem, now a gardener and horticultural lecturer. My Damascene moment came in my early years when watching 'Tomorrow's World' - the presenter was showing us what would happen when a cabbage was boiled, wired up to equipment of the time, she explained how the oscilloscope would show the equivalent of an 'electronic scream' as all the cells died. I never quite got over that one - thank goodness. So next time you pop that potato in the microwave! Living and breathing just as you and I do!
This was fascinating and wondered if the plants were able to not only attract predators but move other compounds in to the vulnerable (non-expendable) parts. Thank you for this and the presentation style.
I've pondered similar. A human is capable of living on fruits and nuts and seeds and similar foods that don't require the death of the plant, but, the way our farming is done, the plant is seen as an object that makes money. There is no real morals. It's kind of how meat farmers are. Sure, meat farmers might limit how far they will go because it doesn't feel right to them, but it would only be because they maybe have experience with other animals like dogs or cats. Nobody thinks about plants. Well, i do. I get sad if a plant of mine dies. I feel guilty if it dies due to something i did or didn't do. Especially if it was an indoor plant. An indoor plant depends on you to care for it. This whole thoughtset though has made me wonder, how do you kill a plant "humanely"? With an animal, you destroy their brain and they're gone. With a plant, a pulled up plant can survive for days before it finally dies. There is so much not known about plants that that is not an easy question to answer.
I've known about these plant reactions since the 70's when reading about it in a book (wish I still had that book) ... but I've always asked myself how humans should interpret these electric/chemical reactions.
Why call it a "scream"?
That's an anthropomorphic description.
Even in animal bodies there are electric/chemical signals going off constantly, they're not always "screams" - in fact, I would say that the vast majority are not "screams" at all.
Lets face it, the natural world is designed in a way that one small critter is consumed by a bigger one up to the top of the food chain and then the very smallest ones eat the biggest predators when they die - rinse and repeat.
Thank you Dr Ben, this is absolutely amazing, I so love all the information coming out about plant life, geeky moss lichen lover over here & don’t get me onto fungi. So whether it be trees & mycelium networks & ‘mother trees’ or this fantastic share of yours today, jaw droopingly wonderful world being slowly revealed to us bit by bit, chemistry as language - simply awesome & of course.
This makes me think that they could give specific signals to attract specific kinds of bugs or species. If they need to move their actual location (or I suppose, their offspring’s location) since there’s more pests around or more deforestation, they might send a scent to nearby wildlife to eat the plant if it’s got berries, or a fuzzy lil guy that’ll take the sticky seeds on its legs to a further area, or other methods of movement. But this tells me that their main thing is they wanna spread, and STAY in their current position if it’s optimal
Amazing research. I will listen to it again at reduced speed to have more understanding. We humans are on the threshold of something else. From the work of Michael Levin on how cells communicate as communities within a body [kidney cells, liver cells, skin cells ... etc] until messages from the impact of the environment outside is communicated to the DNA where changes might occur over a long period of time ... to the work of Dr. Ben Miles here, we are gradually entering a new era of understanding of how biology works. Many thanks.
Thanks!
Thanks for the support!
Wow! Wonder if one could develop a system that would alert if a plant needs more (or less) nutrients & water. Apparently, I must currently be viewed by my garden plants as a threat them. I’d love to know how I’m mistreating the orange tree which begrudgingly produces just 2 oranges a year.
Try an organic fertiliser, it helped my orange tree finally get fruit 🙂
Apparently they scream when thirsty…. We just can’t hear them - yet.
I had a supremely connecting experience some years ago after an intense yoga class/weekend. After shivasana (relaxation pose/corpse pose) I unfolded to moving into postures and poses that lasted a long time. It just was and I knew exactly what to do without any instruction or prior knowledge.
Then when I went outside, the trees... my the trees! were bowing to me and I was bowing to them, one by one then in unison they bowed, they saw me - I saw them, they knew me - I knew them, it was such a sacred and blessed time and it lasted days. I actually drove like that with all the trees along the road seeing, knowing, bowing in recognition that I was alive and they were too, seeing and knowing in their way.
I saw, I knew, things.
When some snow fell each snowflake almost introduced themselves to me, things had slowed down so much. The snowflakes were joyous, almost singing wheeee.
Everything was just as it should be and meant to be and there were messages al over the place, plain as plain could be if we just tune in.
It was quite the experience. (I was not on anything :) in case you are wondering.
It all came about naturally from within my heart and my being from the universe or whatever you like to call that.
One message please ....we must not trash our planet.
We MUST reduce plastics NOW.
We are doing so much damage and plastic makers are damaging our planet, we have glass, we have, paper, we have metals. We DO NOT NEED ALL of these single-use plastics WHATSOEVER.
Plastics are toxic, they pollute and kill our environment our fish and animals are in us and in our sacred waters.
Also we MUST reduce and eventually eliminate pesticides, herbicides, insecticides.
Nature has its own way.
We MUST NOT look to )or large corporations) must not make a profit off of plastics, off of these pesticides etc, and they are making money off of the planets misery and other people misery. That must not be a model to follow. We must care more, do more now.
We can regenerate soils by doing crop rotation, fallow practices to allow nitrogen etc and soils to recover.
We must.
We must wake up to our sacred living planet and mind it. Now.
We must mind our world, our plants, trees, all living creatures too.
Be well.
I am having a very transcendent/everything is connected day today... (I'm also not on any drugs or medications known for inducing that state in human brains... I've just been working with a yoga and meditation coach on allowing and including)... and after several conversations with friends/family
(25-12-24 Christmas Day), I came across this information, which, while new to me, is both positively fascinating, AND (based on my experience first neglecting and then learn to grow and tend to plants in and around my home) just makes complete logical and biological sense to me. I hadn't ever thought of smell as a manifestation of communication, though I did realise that colour can also be a way of communicating between people and plants and animals. What a wonder and a marvel!
I can now tell folk that love the scent of cut grass that it's literally the SCENT OF SUFFERING! 🤣
Nah that's just nervous sweating😂
I feel like adaptations like this in plants are a much stronger case for evolution than animals are because plants intuitively seem to us to have less agency. It makes the “nondirectional” aspect of evolution seem more sensible and even obvious as compared to organisms we might be more inclined to attribute “intent” to.
How does this only have 26k views? This is unbelievable.
I always wondered this, as I used to sometimes violently chop the tops of certain bushes or shrubberies on a swampy island as a small kid, pretending to be a super ninja turtle like Leonardo cutting swords, doing flying airkicks and trying out new weapons, to find out the next day the other plants were more sturdy and didnt cut the same way. It was clear they had changed somehow in structure. But being taught they are not clever and do not communicate, this was a mystery to me. Them communicating however would be a great explanation and completely validate my magical thinking that the entire planet and its flora and fauna are magical
And no I didnt turn out a psychopath in case you were wondering 😊 it was plants I was focussing my energy on. Yes, I am guilty of also kicking a tree once
We humans excel at explaining things from our perspective. When plants respond to disturbance by producing VOCs, we often label them as distress signals. However, in reality, the plants are simply reacting to changes in their environment, a result of the coevolution of plants and insects. A house plant that appears unhealthy might be signaling its need for more care in a visual way.
So, distress signals. That's responding to environment.
@@thekaxmaxyes, but the point is that just the word "distress" has a connotation that implies certain things to some people which makes them tend to anthropomorphize the subject.
Several people in the comment section have already used the word "pain" in their response to this.
Definitions need to be specific I guess.
If we're talking about distress on an emotional level (which is how many people are interpreting this) that's a completely different thing than just defining distress as a non-emotional and painless reaction.
People make, sell, and buy distressed furniture - there's no emotional reaction there that humans are interpreting. Definitions matter. Our reactions to words matter.
PLANTS HAVE EMOTIONS?
I've been meditating for 20 years now and recently my empathic abilities have become really powerful and I can sense things. I've recently sensed that when I water my pot plant, it radiates great joy, and the thirstier it is, the powerful the good feeling it radiates when I water it. When I trimmed my pot plant it radiates sadness... I can sense it, just like I can sense a lot of feelings from other people. So do plants have emotions? Could this mean they even have thoughts? If so, how do we detect this? Personally, I am 100% certain plants have emotion and possibly thoughts. Scientific research lags far behind the amazing reality that surrounds us.
this is trippy but u should do one on mushrooms... the trees help each other and share resources through mushrooms underground. so amazing
If I were able to choose one other species on this pale, blue dot to communicate with, it would probably be the Sequoia…
This is so fascinating. I’ve recently become vegetarian because of the moral implications of the meat industry but if it turns out plants have a form of consciousness, I guess there’s no way to eat without inflicting a certain degree of suffering on something else.
I’d be interested to see more videos of plants communicating “pain” (for lack of a better word) if anyone has suggestions.
I suspect that it would be difficult to demonstrate any sort of analogue of "pain" in plants - but "damage"? That seems more than likely.
I think plants' relationship to pain is different to ours. After all they can lose a lot of their body parts and still survive and thrive. So it's not so urgent to avoid the problem. We can't regrow a finger, but they can regrow a branch. So pain has to be a much more urgent signal for us. In any case plants can do little about it since they can only move their parts very slowly if at all. So what is the evolutionary advantage of giving them a pain signal that they can't do anything about? So I think they don't have "pain" as such. Their reactions to these VOCs would likely be like a rash to us, i.e. some local business that doesn't reach consciousness. We're full of mechanisms fighting battles on our behalf, but we don't feel those at all. The only signals that reach our consciousness as "pain" are the ones that our consciousness has the power to do something about, e.g. by taking control of the body to move it out of a dangerous situation. If plants have some kind of central consciousness, what could that control? Maybe the general direction and/or speed of growth, timing of flowering and so on. So the sensations useful to that consciousness would be things like discomfort on one side or the other, lack or excess of water or nutrients, the changing of the seasons, things like that.
@@uazuazu I have to agree with you. I don’t think plants will ever have a sophisticated level of consciousness. We will never be able to comprehend what our pets feel like, like alone our houseplants. 😅
I was listening to a podcast recently that breached the topic that everything might have a form of consciousness. It’s difficult to take the theory seriously considering that if a rock has consciousness and can experience the world but has no agency, it does very little to strengthen our understanding of the human mind, so it’s probably a useless endeavour to consider it a possibility.
i do not think that eating its fruits is painful since it helps to propagate offspring. also once a plant, like a green, matures and has released its seed the THC within its leaves is nearly nill making the leaves very tasty to eat, nice and sweet instead of the bitterness of young leaves...so it may be that the mature plant may give off a chemical or other signal to tell herbavores hey come and eat me...that opens up space then for their offspring to grow..so what is seen as danger and as painful would depend on the plant, its life stage, and what it needs for its survival or the survival of its offspring. clearly more study needs to be done, but at least this gives us evidence that plants are living beings and how we caretake them and their environment matters.
Slightly off topic, but may I ask you why not vegan?
If you're doing this due to the "moral implications of the meat industry," isn't going vegan the way to go?
Just honestly curious.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you for the fantastic video❤
Vegans: 👀💧
Please Dr. Miles.. the tone is at the 'O' at stomata! (Στόματα)!
Keep up the good work!
Potato, potahto, stomata, stomahta.
😮 This research
Can benefit us all. I hope 1 day you can get words out of the plants.
That plants can communicate, and with even greater sophistication than described here, is nothing new. “The secret life of plants” (1973) Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird
Well I guess you figured it out way before anyone else here - you get an extra brownie point. Did you sit in the front row in class ?
@@78tag Not everyone is out to impress others. Are you projecting?
@ ...sure sounds like you're impressed.
The world is sooo much more interesting than we the people
Plants are chemical factories, they also communicate through symbiotic fungi in and on their roots (see 'Finding the Mother Tree').
Wonderful! I would say "I love you."
I would say, "Sorry."
Awesome video! I'm really interested in seeing if we can train plants to perform basic math or puzzle solving tasks. Then from there, how many houseplants does it take to run DOOM?
i read of this like 8 or 10 years ago? so is this those studys or even more information now from since then?
There was also evidence that plants can communicate with each other using fungi as a kind of network.
This is quite incredible and reinforces the the fact that there may actually be something to pansychism
If I could talk to plants better, I would tell them "GROW!"
This reminds me of a permaculture practice I use in my garden called "chop and drop." Those stress-related VOCs really stimulate growth in my experience.
This perhaps explains why the leaves on oak trees will all seem to turn over when rain is imminent. Like you said, I never imagined this complexity of communication.
I haven't been a regular of your channel but the more I watch the more I like your vids.
Thank you. You now have a regular follower. I will be viewing prior vids... binging!
Many years ago, The Secret Life of Plants explored this territory.
This was a really fascinating video, thank you. It lends one to wonder how much consciousness plants may have. It can be said that our consciousness is just a series of chemical cascades as well.
It took the Emerald Ash Borer 3 years to kill all the Ash on my property. After the first year the reamaining live Ash were loaded with seeds for the next two following years. That was the beggining of my discovery of plant communication. Its mesmorizing how complex life is on our planet
science is proving that those who have been claiming life and intelligence and communication in plants were actually telling the truth...way to go scientists...thank you
Thank you. And to the plants, thank you as well.
Can confirm I was in the forest and I heard plants talking they were saying "wanna bet that person has never had a girlfriend"
Checkmate, Vegans. 🤣
Thankyou very much
Read, "The Secret Life of Plants. It's old but it never gets old. Amazing scientific testing on plants that showcase their ability to read the human mind and react with feeling.
I’m still curious about what they do to adapt to the threat that they are communicating and how that functions with plants with more extensive self defense mechanisms versus those that are more passive
He explained that via epi genetic mechanisms genes are up or down regulated to make the necessary products given specific environmental conditions.
how do wr compare plant communication and communication between other organisms, Does it seem closer to communication between organs or cells, communication between beings
I would say/sing “You are so beautiful to me.”
I would say "Thank you," but I think they already hear me.
I can unequivocally say vibration can steer plant growth and have the tool to prove it.
Gotta love GFP & CRISPR.
This is many decades old news
Plant 1: "I'm going nowhere in life. It's like I'm stuck in the dirt all the time. You know what I mean?"
Plant 2: "It can feel that way for all of us. I know exactly how you feel."
When learning to bartend I was told that clapping mint or Basil in your hands releases the oils in the leaves making them more fragrant and flavorful but now I can't help but think that it's the VOCs released from the trauma of clapping the leaves in your hand. Which is true?
The scent is both warning and defence. True of all leaf and stem scents.
are we on pandora ?
Next is “The Happening” movie”
Take that veagans
Now you can’t deny how real that alien tree ecosystem in Avatar is
Vegans been real quiet since this banger dropped. Just kidding, i'm vegan lol.
As long as you don't preach against meat you've nothing to worry about.
Vegans really do be like “did you know I’m vegan?”
Nicely told. But you miss the influence of the moon.
Another great video, it was super interesting actually, but I need to say this:
folk who live among, care for, and eat from plants, can tell you that plants communicate, and even various meanings. This has been so since the dawn of time. They may not know that tiny mouths in a plant spread words of chemistry throughout it, but they can get pretty close at an abstract, yet precise, level.
Here we are, 2024, debating the limitations of our understanding of the natural world posed by our shut-in-and-work lifestyle restraints, where we have become such an unreliable source of security for ourselves that most of us would starve if no one grew food FOR us. Food, that grows from the literal ground with minimum supervision.
Science is great, but to know things and to understand them isn't the same thing. You can watch a vid, or carry on an experiment or test about a plant. You'll know all great colourful and wonderful things, bombastic sounding words, I love me my -isms. But ultimately it'll all be made up, words and meanings too, just as abstract as the concepts from nature life folk (*1).
You know what's great also? life. Spend decades in nature, growing, eating, talking, etc. to plants. Then you'll understand them.
And finally, here we are at the culprit. Yes, science great, but life before science, not the other way around, cos we look like cretins talking about "misteries" and "misconceptions" that would best apply to an infant. We currently stand ignorant of the basis of life outside the urban environment.
Another way to say this is: we awfully need to grow culturally before we continue wasting effort on obvious misteries that reside outside the lab walls first and foremost.
What now, Vegans? 😅
Knew about this in early 1970's......book, The Secret life of Plants.
Amazing, plants are awesome! Kudos to humans who were able to decipher them. Lets's learn one more language: chemical and electrical
That’s two. . . .
Gotta be some crazy mycelial wood-wide-web version of this!
Years ago, (15-25?) there was similar info in the mainstream/broadcast news, about TREES. . . I’ll never forget the silent “scream” then-science said that trees emit, when they are chopped down!
2:00 so the bee is kinda doing the same as electrolysis to the water and we get hydrogen knocked off. But in this case the electrons were able to be transferred through entanglement and used by the plant.
I don’t think there is a breakdown of a molecule like electrolysis. I believe they are talking about static charges being transferred from positively charged ions in the air onto the bee and then exchanging that static charge with the plant via the pollen. Then the plant, sensing the change in total static charge on itself, triggers the increase in the release of its scent.
@@mkrepps idk if you understand the connections.
@@mkrepps sorry i just hate that you don’t understand the connections i see. Like electrolysis, and how the small electrons are altered or transferred so two does the bee mess with those same quantum particles. Not that it’s the same but there are similarities. I don’t think you understood the connections i was explaining so here you go. Plus you said what was going on, no analogy or anything. The best way to understand is to see how it fits in reality and the similarities it shared to be able to continue happening. Patterns in the connections and a shared pattern between the bee and electrolysis is transferring that positive charge caused by that friction. So yeah build charge and share like quantum mechanics but understood through the connections. Reality combines differences through its connections and that’s why humans are goofy we don’t see the truth, we see the difference because that’s what we evolved doing but now we realize there’s no separation, just sharing the energy through these differences by the connections. That’s why analogies are important, to be able to share portions like how our brains absorb a portion and then reflect it out back into reality into a different form like a choice of action or thought written on paper.
@@mkrepps i was kinda upset you don’t understand analogies but I’ll help you. In electrolysis, the free electron is used to knock off a hydrogen atom from H2O. In the bees case the positive electrons are transferred to the plant kinda like the electron moving into the hydrogen atom and and pushing it off but instead of pushing off the plant it stimulates a reaction. So yeah it’s pretty similar.
Humans: mmmmm freshly cut grass, such a pleasant smell!
Grass: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
Orcs: (also) WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!
Coincidence?
Save biodiversity!
This is because an ecosystem is essentially a living organism.
I'm sorry I didn't water you enough. I got distracted and forgot. Please stop chemically shouting at me!
mind blown
VOC… so it’s not really the Freon that’s changing atmosphere but the trees screaming from forestry in South America creating VOC’s ultimately harming the atmosphere. But I still can’t get a plastic straw for my latte. Great.
Can this be the interception of science and consciousness?
How amazing would it be if we asked permission and a plant offered themselves. With the premise that one day the human too will offer themselves up to the earth when they die…
Hello plant
You asked.
I would say: "Hello, my friends". And yes, I do, almost everyday, despite they, most probably, don't speak my language. My dog also doesn't, but... he understands. Maybe, just maybe, maybe, with thousands of questionmarks, due to 300 Ma of coevolution with land animals, plants can somewhat understand my chemical signalling. Oh. Yes. I'm still somewhat influenced by Fatima Cvrčková. Not a mainstream, nevertheless respected, scientist.
I enjoyed your video, thumbs up, keep on, sincerely, Peter.
Centuries later, the VOC has managed to colonise plant chemistry. Is there truly no place left untouched by imperialism?
Vegans sweating rn
So... UV can't see the forrest for the trees' communication network?
As a vegetarian, I would like to thank the plants for their sacrifice.
Those damn vegetarians!!!!!!!
My mind is officially f*d.
you use the same pic for every 3rd thumbnail, not saying it is wrong, but it could cause some people to think they already watched the video if they only look on the thumbnail, but maybe Im wrong, just saying
100%, my editor and I were just lamenting our lack of head shots. Sounds like we need a photoshoot over the weekend
😮❤
How about plants under water?
can you ask the plant if the plants that don't get you high are jealous of the ones that can?
This is the kind of thing people have known about for a while but "scientist" insist it's not possible because they don't have the proof then they find the proof and go "isn't that amazing"
I watched a David Attenborough doco the other day (it was from years ago) and he showed this communication system at work. No fancy graphics though.
Click bait title misleads the uneducated! Good video by the way!
Leibniz got made fun of so hard for saying this exact stuff well over 300 years ago.
If u hold ur head just right Z almost admitted ONE of the times he admitted his outlandish predictions didn’t come true!
“The reason I didn’t…”
Uh huh
Holy moly!!! Hate to see what happens when they encounter a Karen!!! 😮
To plant....
I'm sorry, I'm hungry and I don't eat meat. Something has to die so I can survive.
Thought of a pun: VOCalisation.
Hehe.
Omg. I suddenly feel bad for all the potted plants. Are they cut off from the rest of the plants? Isolated and alone?!? Would they be like the homeless in the plant world (although they have homes). People own them!!! Omg slavery. What are we gonna do? We gotta free them. Tomorrow at noon TIP OVER all potted plants. Set them free set them FReEeEEeE!!
Vegetarians should consider this...
What are they gonna eat now?!
It worries me that every time I mow the lawns there are tens of thousands of grass plants screaming in agony.
Me too!
You can plant a type of moss instead of grass.