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I would love to see this experiment repeated but without the sweeping back and forth of the plasma. Every seed got a different level of exposure to the plasma.
Right! Constant application of cold plasma on seeds with and without turning them over! Not to mention to partner with actual biologist to better record and explain seed side of things. 😅
It's going to be practically impossible to apply an even amount and coverage of plasma to each seed without a complex setup. In the experimenting phase, it may be best to focus instead on large sample sizes. But such an applicator device would be useful development for any company looking to integrate the process industrially.
@@NickCombs If the plasma jet is held in fixed position and the seeds are placed in something like a test-tube so that the plasma being jetted doesn't freely escape, that would be sufficient.
In the 70's tests were made using electrostatic fields. Those that were exposed to a static charge grew faster. It wasn't mentioned but my theory is that the static charge similated conditions before and during a thunderstorm. Which encourage the plants to grow using the water available to it as fast as possible.
In 1988 a Swiss team from the chemical company Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) treated seeds of plants, bacteria, red blood cells, a rat heart and fish within electrostatic fields with astonishing results. Everything got much more vitality (the electrostatic field was much stronger in the past). The research was discontinued because the company did not want to destroy its own pesticide and fertilizer business. th-cam.com/video/gPOFyYvjWU8/w-d-xo.html
*I had a lightning strike hit my corn field in the spring and by fall the plants in that area grow taller, were darker green and produced 24 cobs per stalk verse 12-14 cobs.*
@@connorjohnson4402 Could you describe what you mean? I always heard lightning helped plants by producing nitrogen but what you are saying seems a little different or no?
@@ghostrecon3214 Nitrogen fixation is the process of "fixing" nitrogen, which makes it useable by plants. This is usually done by bacteria in the soil. You can't really "make" an element, but you can make it useable.
5:30 "cat grass" is not pure wheat grass. It's a mix of grass varieties, some of which will naturally grow faster than others, and is therefore not appropriate for experiments.
Vivian James! Your logic has no place here! We must operate on emotions, not rationality! Reeeee! I jest. I find it curious that he is using a mixture of varieties. I agree that the seed type should be standardized among the tests. Seeds from a monoculture would be best, since it is not always possible to distinguish cultured based on seed appearance.
For the cat grass pouch, I used only one species of seed. There were three different seed types in the pouch from what I remembers. So, that wasn’t an introduced variable. All the grass that grew was of one species.
I have 17 years worth of crop planting experience. Small time homestead. Next time you do this, soak the seeds themselves in water for about six hours first. This significantly speeds up germination time. I get my first seedlings in about a day. Hopefully this helps!
Si può fare hydroprinting con varie soluzioni minerali e ormoni . I semi germogliano per la spinta osmotica dei minerali presenti nell'acqua, e non per la sola umidità . Quindi appesantendo l'acqua acceleri la germinazione
Si possono anche inumidire e fatti asciugare per poi riseminarli e così germogliano tutti uguale e insieme. So Google schoolar si trovano tutti questi esperimenti per cultivar specifici
OK, lots to unpack here. I'm a biotech scientist who has made GMOs, so I know my biology. 1. Observing seedling growth may or may not translate into meaningful CROP YIELDS. 2. Faster growth won't mean FASTER crop production. Just because you grow the plants from seed to harvest in, say, 3 weeks less, you are still only going to get 1 (or 2 for certain crops) per year (in temperate climates). 3. Important to remember that plant growth is exponential, so all you are seeing is that earlier start that puts them on an earlier trajectory. This may, or may not, mean larger plants at maturity. If the lifecycle of the plant is a certain time, then they will not produce more. If they are daylength determinant, then they might be bigger and produce more. 4. Is this extra growth only due to a faster start? If so, then what is the difference between treated and untreated that are simply panted a day earlier? This is an experiment you should do to check for increased growth rates. Do 2 controls, one started 24 hrs early and 48 hrs early. Do 1 treatment of the 30 plasma, but double the number of plants. At the end, check growth and see if your treated catch or overtake the controls. 5. Does this effect only alter water absorption and therefore increase germination speed? Try soaking a treatment in water for 12 or 24 hrs, then start your experiment and see what you get. 6. Since your radishes didn't like it, you will need to try a bunch of different crops and compare results. Why did the radishes not like it? Was that batch of seeds bad? Is it the species? Is it because it is a dicot? Lots to unpack and figure out. 7. What about less time? What is the minimum time needed to see improvement? 8. What if you pre-wet them before plasma? If the theory is increased water permeability, then what if you give them the water right at the time of plasma? 9. Oh, and back to your radishes... They are cool-weather plants. What was the soil temp at the surface under those lights? If it was too high, they will not want to break dormancy. 10. For plants you don't need quite the intricate setup. More seeds would be better in stead. Just use a flat with lights over it and drop 50 or 100 seeds per treatment to get better statistical data. I could go on, but I think those 10 are a good place to start thinking about what you can do to improve or think of for more experiments.
Permaculture dgaf. Biomass is biomass. More plant biomass means more animal and fungal biomass in the future. Even if it doesn't increase crop yield directly, just do it for the cover crop. Chop it, drop it, crop it. More food for the soil while your main crop develops its roots.
If you can plant twice the amount because of timing…. that doubles your yield. Time of growth 100% has everything to do with yield. Especially indoor. So I can assume you aren’t a farmer or gardener. If I grow micro greens indoors this could be a game changer in yield, even if it doesn’t effect “yield” like you claim.
Hi Jay, I'm a PhD student in plasma science in Germany, if you want to dive into the world of low pressure non-thermal plasmas, just hit me up. Possible things to do would be a simple reactor for etching or deposition of materials. I love our low-pressure plasmas for their bright and diffuse glow, it's just beautiful to look at
any application of neural networks? if you want to be able to predict or find analysis from messy chaotic data you should hit me up. I'm a machine learning engineer, so I can help you in that space.
Do you have a recommendation for your favorite book/textbook/resource for someone to start learning graduate level plasma science? Would love to deepen my understanding
I worked with a company about 10 years ago that is now defunct, but they used a type of plasma water treatment to grow various food crops in a way that saw tremendous growth with their hydroponic process. The plasma treatment part of their method was to energize the water with a proprietary plasma generator which the water flowed through. The water was then stored in a giant swirling tanks which was constantly being circulated with "energized" water from the plazma generator and then the water was siphoned off to fill the hydroponic containers that the plants grew in. The plants experienced tremendous rates of growth over and above what hydroponics alone provided. The suggestion then would be to find a way to use your plasma capabilities to treat the water used for growing seeds and compare the plasma-ized water growth results to this experiment of plazma-izing the seeds.
It seems like it would be much easier to treat the water than the seeds. Would be an interesting experiment, especially in comparison of seeds vs water treatment.
@ Unfortunately there are a great many genius ideas and technologies that never see the light of day because the brilliant inventor didn’t have an equally brilliant marketing or finance person to work with them. Or, the inventor thought they knew how or thought they could be equally brilliant in doing those things all by themselves, and failed.
Stop it. Anyone growing hydroponics is a complete fraud from the start. They could simpley replace their calcium nitrate with calcium glycinate and save their self the disgusting diseased moldy bug infested worthless flavorless non medicinal crops... But that doesn't sell pesticides fungicides and pharmaceuticals, does it? Please ,tell me again why someone would grow with the worst form of nitrogen that wastes the most amount of your money, the plants energy, and attracts all the pests and diseases.. ONLY TO THEN APPLY A BUNCH OF BANDAIDS??? Bandaids that never make it to market until a nice colorful label is printed? You people are sick. There's something seriously wrong with your culture. Bandaid and disease culture.
1880s Professor Karl Selim Lemström of Helsinki University a geophysicist studying the Aurora Borealis - or Northern Lights - began to wonder if they had an effect on plant growth because he noticed that the trees in the far north grew rapidly despite the short growing season. This led him to start experimenting with the effects of atmospheric electricity on germination and plant growth.
I would try to eliminate the soil as a variable by growing the plants hydroponically. The seeds themself are also a big variable, which could be mitigated by increasing the scale, or otherwise maybe by recording the weight of the seeds?
Great suggestions, Hydroponics would help with consistency of the environment. Maybe a simple Deep Water Culture design would be easy and economical setup for an quick experiment.
There is one German guy who grew weed seeds taller by applying a high voltage elctrical field with a condensor-like arrangement before planting them. He's been doing this for at least 10 years IIRC. His name is Segelohrenbob, but he does a lot of other weird but interesting stuff.
I'd be interested in the overall implications of the treatment. It's impressive if it makes them grow taller or faster, however actual yield and its quality should also be tested and compared with a non treated batch. There are examples of speeding up tree growth to harvest faster resulting in lower strength of the wood for e.g. construction. I don't at all mean to take away from this experiment, just the opposite. I'd love more people to do this sort of independent science! 🔥
@@Riichrd "The book “The Primeval Code” by the Swiss author Luc Bürgin attracted a lot of attention in 2008. Apparently, two biologists had made an astounding discovery: Strong crops that were exposed to DC electric fields then showed a higher yield and more resistance to pest infestation. Guido Ebner, son of one of the two discoverers, has continued to pursue the research and has developed a “Greenbox” with which the “primeval code” can also be used at home. By Daniel Ebner, Switzerland Of the physical conditions that drive the evolution of biological forms, temperature, pressure, and electromagnetic radiation have all been scientifically studied. On the other hand, far less consideration has been given to static physical fields such as gravity and magnetic and electric fields in previous work. Their impact on biological evolution is therefore still largely unknown. But while investigations with magnetic fields and gravity are gradually moving into the focus of biologists, research on static electric fields remains very rare. This is probably due to the doctrine that an electric field in a medium filled with charge carriers is shielded by the formation of an electrical double layer...
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Neodymium magnets (strong 2x2in blocks) treatment to seeds has shown via experiments to make seeds grow faster after exposure to South magnetic face and normal to slower on North magnetic face. Test again with your rig. It may be the same action on the seeds as the plasma, but somewhat easier to implement.
I did some contract work for an AgTech startup called Clean Crop Tech a while back. I helped design equipment for large scale cold plasma treatment of seeds. It was wild to learn how much of a difference the plasma treatment can make. And how much of a challenge it is to consistently treat the entire 3 dimensional surface of tiny seeds at scale large enough to fill fields. I didn't get too deep into the theory of the treatment, but there are two main reasons as to why it helps growth. 1) the cold plasma roughens the surface of the seeds and helps them absorb water and nutrients more effectively. 2) The gasses present in the plasma can embed into the surface of the seeds to provide added nourishment in the beginning stages of growth.
I don't know the cause, but enzymes could be influenced by electrical and magnetic fields. They are very sensitive. Evolution strongly favours sprouting well and at the right time and conditions, and so these systems could be quite elaborate.
Are you sure it's not just because PLASMA creates ozone and DISINFECTS the surface of the seeds and this allows the seeds to grow inhibited by the bacteria and fungi. Plasma makes Ozone and THAT binds with ANY gases like oxygen!
@stevenpace892 Yes but the timing of those enzymes are altered differently by the magnetic and electric fields. One would assume that offsetting the rates of reactions within the seed would negatively affect the overall function since all the products and reactants would be in a less optimized configuration. What I believe is more probable is that a specific functionality, present in most plant species seed's, is being altered directly by either the plasma gas or the induced fields. It's extremely hard to say exactly what is being effected, but comprehensive enzymatic assays and microscopic investigations are no doubt underway.
For the next experiment, I recommend using latex or nitrile gloves when handling seeds. This will help prevent contamination that can impact the seeds growth.
And other sources of microbial contamination - like human breath. These microbes can be detrimental to plant growth and the function of the plasma could be mere sterilization of these microbes.
definitely would like to see a larger experiment. Also, would like to see something scalable. Helium is way too expensive to be able to be useful on a farm. Thousands if not tens of thousands of seeds are going into the ground in a few hours. The time it takes to drive the machinery across the field. So, this would need a lot of work to become viable. Need to know the results at 10 sec, 15, 20 seconds of exposure, and if changing the source of the cold plasma creates a difference. Bonus points for a cold plasma that isn't going to break the bank.
helium wouldn't be as big of an issue if you use an ante-chamber / miniature glovebox type setup, reduces wasted inert gas / reuses it. seal the seeds in a chamber, use vacuum to evacuate the air, fill with helium or other inert gas for making plasma, then start the plasma process (and you could make it a more even plasma across all the seeds), vacuum out the helium / inert gas (could have valves to vacuum it to a storage tank to reuse the helium OR use an antechamber so the main chamber ALWAYS has helium in it and the ante-chamber is a smaller chamber you put the seeds in prior to entering the ante-chamber where they would be purged of oxygen / non-inert gasses). Then it may just need a small inert gas purifier unit to keep the main chamber filled with inert gas (or simply put in fresh new gas when the oxygen content starts to increase / less inert gas making the plasma less efficient / strong). Theres def some potentially good ways of making this viable on a larger scale. If it has a significant enough effect on plant growth / growth speed to be viable cost wise hopefully it would cover the upkeep costs of the electricity and inert gas.
In my training period in a plant laboratory, we had once made an attempt with sterilized soil. The soil is heated for 2 hours. The rice plants grew much faster and looked healthier; I suspect behind the plasma-like effect that the seeds were freed from germs. In the soil, also nutrients have probably become more accessible.
@zavatone for 2 h about 100°C. Because the soil was moist, we had heating elements that were hotter, but with moisture comes steam and it doesn't get much warmer than 100°C. Elsewhere we put the soil in an autoclave, which is like an oversized pressure cooker, where you reach around 120°C at 2 bar. But it doesn't have to remain highly sterile; the worst pests, such as nematodes, are killed off at 60 to 80°C.
the waving the small wand across the multiple seeds means it wasnt exact timing on the seeds, on average i would say the central seeds would probably get more exposure than the edge seeds just because of the left to right motion, if you could make more of an airblade type nozzle and equally heat all of them 30 seconds you will probably get different results again (also making the lights adjustable height might help too, in addition, seeing the end result of the 120 seconds exposure could help towards what to expect if we are ever hit by a high energy solar plasma shot) The thing is with making a better option for exposure would probably need 10 or 15 second increments over a full 30 second separation, this would gain better datasets, there is also the option for the damp paper towel germination occasionally used before potting, this is an accepted method and you would also be able to measure root growth differences pre potting
Agreed, also, is the 30/60/120 second plasma for each seed or for the entire lot of seeds? based on what he showed I'm assuming it's split between all of them. needs more samples of course as well.
Yup. I like those ideas. I suggested sweeping vertically across each seed a set number of times, or mounting the wand on a small stand and making up a tiny turntable with dimples for the seeds with a little geared motor to control speed, then give it x number of rotations to create pulsed exposure. Continual exposure may yield different results also. Little turntable thing means he gets to show off the 3D printers again which seem to be an audience-pleaser. SO many variables in this kind of experiment. I'd love to see it expanded in all sorts of ways.
French physicist who invented the "electro-vegetometer" in the 1780s inspired the technique. This device was a lightning rod that delivered atmospheric electricity to crops.
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I observed something like this on a divider, every single tree which is beside the power line along with a light pole, they grow faster than the others, I theorized it's due to the electric field or magnetic flux generated by the AC power line. But it's finally due to the street light beside it which is helping it to some extent in photosynthesis 24/7😂.
It's extremely unlikely that a light source at that distance would effect plant growth, when growing plants inside the same light source in a street light is optimally no more than 2 or three feet away from plants due to the inverse square law, a light 20 feet away would have about 120th of the light energy than an optimally placed source that's less than 1 percent.
Loads of trees grow under or near power lines, but I have never seen any tree under or near them which grew faster, or any other kind of plant either. If we're talking about lines that run through the cut lanes in the woods, well trees that have more room to grow, do tend to grow faster.
In my case they are on divider and are lined. So I observed every single tree(literally every single one) which beside the light pole grown taller than rest of trees in the line@@lepayen
bro's videos always amaze me. three consecutive videos of him, electret, cold plasma, and cold plasma plant treatment all just blew my mind. cool youtuber he is. Edit: Thank you plazma channel for replying, I wasn't expecting that 😅
1. More seeds to get statistical consistent data(at least 100 of each) 2. Level yhe substrate and cover with vermiculite and level again 3. Try different plasma gas that is available at industrial scale and cheaper 4. Instead of soil try maybe a nutrients free substrate and fertilse only with liquid solutions to grant homogeneous conditions 5. Let us know when you open your mary jane business
For the 1, a 10x10 3D printed planter to even out the spacing could be nice (you mentionned it was a problem, that would fix both spacing and depth of the seeds) 2 would help too 4 is interesting too
For 36 years I've been growing wheatgrass and selling it to health food stores. When I saw that short growth scale I had to smile. Wheatgrass grows MUCH faster than lawn grass.
Great start with this experiment! I'd love to see it repeated with more traditional growing cells. I also find it interesting that the germination all seemed to be located on one side of your grow set ups, the left. That is odd. Ultimately while I do think it's a very promising start I don't trust that the set up was to best practices. I know a lot of seedlings get started with the help of humidity domes, and I'm also concerned about the closeness of the lights. Most seedling plant cells are also deeper and wider to my eye, which could have been a factor too.
I like the concept and I'd love to see more data. I think you have a nice suggestion of possible improved growth but if you can achieve a rate of +50% then a slower growing specie might be a better candidate than a more rapidly growing specie. Seeing variance (even a high degree of variance) in an already fast growing plant like wheat grass may be more easily attributable to seedling genetic luck whereas if you took a specie that took longer to grow like a lettuce, bean, or tomato plant and got a 50% increased growth rate then it is harder to pass off the height differential as just fortunate seedlings. You might also encounter other differentials in growth patterns over a longer time frame with lettuce, bean, or tomato plants.
Interesting, I'd love far more detail on how to DIY this. We have 2 grow racks in our dining room that we use for starting seeds int he spring and grow experimental peppers and the like the rest of the year. I'd love to tinker.
I did this experiment in 99 for my middle school science fair. I always wondered what it would be like to electrocute plants and see if you can stimulate growth. I went through the process of hooking different batteries to plants but I also use a few different circuits that would generate a higher voltage. I found out that about 1.3 to 1.5 volts ay a few milliamps would cause a substantial change in the growth of the plant. It was a lot of research but I never thought about using cold plasma. This is also 99 so we didn't know about cold plasma too much. Still I'm glad to see someone go after the fact that plants do respond to electricity and certain voltages and amperages can in fact enhance growth rather than inflict a negative consequence on them. Everybody told me I was crazy and then I was lucky for taking first place so I quit following it but 25 years later I'm kicking myself in the ass for it.
I am and grew up as an agricultural specialist. My literal life has been spent in the dirt. I have grown many of palm trees and smaller plants so this experiment was right up my alley as well as irrigation design and layout. I was considered add back in the day when they wanted the cram medicine down to your throat. I quit taking my medicine one year into it and really embraced the add. Everybody has called me crazy throughout the years because I've built some of the most advanced hydrogen units as well as some of the craziest experiments, like electric heating plants. We all work off of energy and that's what everybody fails to see. I see Life in a different perspective and I wish people could keep up. It takes about 10 years before people realize I am right and then they forget about me. I never record what I do because usually I'm on the precipice of the most dangerous sciences. I love what I do in my spare time but if it's seen by the wrong person it could go very wrong very quickly. Thanks to you and quite a few different content creators I really regret the fact that I haven't turned on the camera but I still worry about some of the things you guys do😅 you're catching up but if the public knew what really existed they would really freaked out and wonder why it's not already mainstream. It's just too dangerous at the moment. Even this, what I had to do about 25 years ago to do this experiment was way too dangerous for anybody and I should not have known how to do it in Middle School.
Also if you look back in your comments throughout all of your videos you'll realize I think commenting the same thing so I'm not kidding when I say this! 😅
Use a cylindrical silver rod with a lead ring at the bottom and a durable copper wire wrapped around it with its end at the top of the rod. Connect a plasma source to the wire and place the rod inside the soil so that the lead ring is immersed in the soil
honestly, i am proud of your experiment. Can you please do this again but with clones not seeds. Also, you can just buy them inside a plastic tube growing in the gel.
Dude this is great stuff. I own/operate a tree nursery. We'll plant about 3 million seeds this spring. It would be cool to have a cold plasma treatment on some seeds🎄🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲⚛️
Fascinating. It would be interesting if long term exposure makes any difference, as a daily 5, 10, 15, 20 second zap. Could be more consistent with use of simple cotton wool instead of soil.
I use a technique taught to me in the 80s to germinate. The roots always bigger than when I don't use it. If you don't have a way to toughen the plant up before it gets too big, its a waste of time. Also pay attention to the big electrical towers near highways when you drive. The grass and other plants always grow faster. I'm sure if you talk to those that cut it, they'll tell you its harder to cut than the rest.
I'm curious about the fruits we get at the end. Are there any studies that showcase the effects of cold plasma on the quality and composition of the fruits?
I would love to see this done again with lessons learned. I also think that it would be more fair to have all the containers contain all versions of the seeds, obviously clearly marked. This would avoid the issue of differences in the containers themselves, maybe one was closer to a draught, or heat source etc
At the beginning of every video about making things better that could help everyone, I always remember there is no cure for greed and that most evil come from the same group of people.
I think a scale up is needed. As well as a better way to apply the cold plasma. Blasting one side of one seed at a time seems like it may have skewed the results a bit.
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Go bigger and longer. Look at a few others and chart to full growth. Otherwise if only a few hours and only as seedling this would really only help indoor automated conveyor belt style farms
This reminds me of "Der Urzeitcode", a research done in the 80s in Austria, where they exposed seeds and fish eggs to electrostatic fields, which made the plants and fish resilient to pretty much all pests and diseases and also "reset" them to an older version. Corn treated this way carried 2-3 times the amount of corn cobs.
This was pretty interesting, and thank you for citing some references. I will have to add, however, that germination speeds and growth rates do not necessarily equal quality vegetation!
8:34 The seeds not treated with plasma go into the soil with no prep? That's an error. When you plant seeds, you should moisturize them for a day in advance. This will kick start the growth. It is standard practice. Not testing against it is an error. Nobody serious about growing fast is planting dry.
A nutritional uptake evaluation is essential. Commercial outlets grow plants more rapidly than usual. However, nutritional researchers are concerned due to the lack of essential trace mineral uptake in the rapidly grown plants. Another thought is that due to the plants passing the artificial full spectrum lights in growth Is it possible the photosynthesis process was interrupted? Would that be a concern for reevaluation?
Love your channel. This is an interesting idea that needs lots more data. I would do diff plants in different “pots” They have diff needs. Radish will be the fastest turnover. But maybe it affects grasses and root veg differently…. Like I said….. sssooooo much potential data..
it's just nitrogen fertilizer, it's not a new technology, plasma was used to produce nitrogen fertilizer in regions with cheap electricity, but now other methods are used. I don't know much about it, so don't judge too harshly
that would make sense if he was treating the soil. He is treating the seeds. If he was converting the seeds into fertilizer they would not grow, animals and humans doing something equivalent when we make bread out of wheat seed and scrabled eggs out of chicken seed
Nice video Just so you know the faster a plant grows the more easy disease such as fungus takes hold so your method would be extra interesting tested on tree cuttings cultured into making roots
I think you're on the right track talking with the expert in growing many ofvthe same specific species of algae and then tracking their metabolism via respiration/O2-production
i would love to see further experiment. i think you need to create some sort of cold plasma chamber, i think you already know why and i bet you already had the thought. next you need a much larger group to test. grass is pretty good because of the fast results. of course next after that should be larger plants, maybe a production plant eventually. the exploration of application during growth would be intriguing also. but please, do not get too distracted from your ion engine work.
I feel like you could achieve similar or better results just scuffing the outside of the seeds with something like sand paper or a tumbler. Scuffing seeds is a common gardener's trick to help greatly increase both speed and chance of germination.
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I excited a plasma globe and then adjusted it down to the lowest amount of energy I could keep it excited at and after a week of sitting next to my plants I noticed they grew twice as much as the ones further away. They also began to face the plasma rather than the LED grow lights. I think even week non visual plasma partially induces energy into the electrolytes in the soil and CO2 which seems to increase nutrient absorption
I think it would be interesting to see this experiment done on some major food crops. If you have the room it would be cool to see what the plasma would do to rice, corn, soybeans, and true potato seeds. Perhaps you could team up with a you tube garden to help you grow out your treated crops. Obviously the longer plasma time adversely effects the seeds but what if you reduced it a bit and thus induced mutation but got better germination. It would be interesting to see. Mutation is part of the story of our modern crops and it would be interesting to see what plasma creates
Interesting! Totally caught my surprise to find you working with plants. I have some thoughts: -first of all, I am now very curious to see this done in the field. How do results change in a more natural context? - I'm equally as interested to find out why this works. Is it basically just scarification, or is something else going on? - I wonder how these results would change in different soils. Adjusting variables like pH or cation exchange capacity could be fun? Anyway, keep it up! This is the kind of science programming I want to follow.
Fascinating experiment it would be interesting to to do one with not only cold plasma but have sealed chambers adding controlled amounts of CO2. Add a second experiment using electrostatic charge and CO2.
Neat. I would like to see an experiment with food plants that grow all the way to harvest to see the long term impact. They might germinate faster, but how does it affect the rest of the plants life cycle?
im 100% treating my whole garden like an experiment. doing my rows in a gradient from least to most exposure. not doing a scientific test, but a real world application. gonna start treating some seeds now and some later to see if time after treatment is a factor. wont satisfy a paper but might be good eating. think il do exposure starting at 20 and going to 90 in incriments of ten and split for old vs recent treatment.
50 years ago I ran a small hydroponic lettuce farm. 1000 plants per week. I noticed I got faster seed sprout if I talked to the seeds while I was planting the seed. I also acheived faster growth by talking to the plants when the were in the growing area. All anecdotal of course.
fantastic experiment. I can see a couple of things that would be great to improve upon in a version 2. 1) build a little jig that accepts 1 seed at a time for the plasma exposure. Automate the exposure process so that the application of plasma is as precise as possible. 2) plant different exposure seeds next to each other such that one container has 1 x control, 1x 30 sec, 1 x 60 sec and 1 x 120 sec. This way you can minimise the effect that the soil / light and any other environmental changes might have on growth. As the current issue is that one container might be a more suitable environment for growth compared to another. 3) run the experiment for longer. although it seems like there is linear growth, it may change over the period of a week or a month. 4) have small seed holders buried in the soil in each container so that they all start at the same height. 5) plant waaaay more seeds. 6) every day, remove a small sample from each exposure time and control seeds and measure their growth by taking the wet or dry mass of the plant. More destructive but you can get a more accurate reading compared to eyeballing the height. 7) conclude the final verdict of 'better growth' by weighing the final wet or dry mass. Lastly, and this isn't regarding the experimental process, but is this even needed? Is the time, effort, money and energy put into this process (especially at scale) worth the reward? Are there any calculations that can be made to see how much more plant you get for the extra effort invested at the start?
need to control plasma exposure better. needs more seeds, individually measured. needs more growth space. would be interesting to track germination to harvest. very nice work, thanks for sharing.
1. You could put the cold plasma tool head onto a regular 3d printer, then sandwich the seeds between 2 stainless steel mesh grids (or other inert material) to clamp down on the seeds in a flat grid, this way you can see if flipping the seeds over and getting both sides increases the growth at all. Obviously the 3d printer would make the plasma application way more straightforward and controlled. Then plant them that way. Or, you stick them on top of a paper towel with some sticky non toxic fixative so they don't move, again in a grid, then have the 3d printer spray plasma, then cover them with soil (there would be a layer of soil under the paper towel as well). Then instead of taking mass measurements of each seed you could maybe take a overhead picture of each seed and using a computer, have a custom program guess the seed's mass, then that could feed into the 3d printer tool path to determine how much plasma each seed gets. 2. To eliminate the variable of some spouts getting more light than others by virtue of sprouting first, you could start out with the lights up higher and further away, so that you don't have and bias to the first spouts that got a head start, mimicking more how crops would actually grow in sunlight. To make sure they get enough light you would need a more powerful grow light and some reflective panels. 3. Another route to go would be to see if pre-treating the seeds with anything would have an impact. A pre wash with just water? (or other sterilization method) A quick dip in fungicide? A fertilizer? 4. Observing the seeds in other growth environments simultaneously. Growing in different soil types. With different additives within the soils. (fertilizer treatments, fungicide, soil samples looking into the different dominant bacteria species, ect.) Growing some hydroponically, growing some in different lighting intensities/spectrums. Growing some in different levels of humidity. 5. Like others have mentioned: Adjusting the plasma. Different gasses used: Helium, Argon, Nitrogen, ect. 6. Taking precautions with microbes on hands and breath using gloves and a mask and a relatively clean environment for transplantation.
electrostatically treated seeds show similar early germination and growth rates, this has been known since the 70s at least. however growth rates do not translate into measurable increased crop yields or early harvestability afaik
Using a heatseak to hold the seeds is sucha geek move; i love it! My cat has a habit of putting her dry food into her water. So I'm using an old ide hard drive CD ROM bay switch, as a soacer ro separate her food and water dish. If you don't know what a hdd rom bay switch is, just imagine an old pc cd/dvd rom drive standing on its side. I wish TH-cam had a way to include a quick low res photo with a comment.
So I have a thought. Instead of separating your chambers by exposure, I’d separate them by plant variety. And I’d also alternate exposure types by position in a chamber. For instance C,30,60,90,120,C,30,60,90,120,… to the end of the chamber. This way, you’d eliminate any variables in the chambers or variables within the lighting/heating within any one chamber itself. Now if plasma could wipe out powdery mildew, I’d be very impressed.
should of put in a grounding wire into the soil - grow some Tulsi basil , holy basil . seeds in schisandra berries are hard2sprout ..... make some sprouted coconuts - or sprout mango seeds . electro culture , tensor ring , orgonite with rodin coils , soak seeds in monoatomic 'gold' salts
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test magnets next. there's quite a bit of documentation outlining the effects of magnetic fields on plant growth.
Aliens have talked about growing fruit in 3 days using non ionizing radiation.
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I would love to see this experiment repeated but without the sweeping back and forth of the plasma. Every seed got a different level of exposure to the plasma.
Right! Constant application of cold plasma on seeds with and without turning them over! Not to mention to partner with actual biologist to better record and explain seed side of things. 😅
It's going to be practically impossible to apply an even amount and coverage of plasma to each seed without a complex setup. In the experimenting phase, it may be best to focus instead on large sample sizes. But such an applicator device would be useful development for any company looking to integrate the process industrially.
Maybe it's not as complex as I was thinking. You'll need a tumbler with a (bigger) plasma jet pointing into it.
@@NickCombs If the plasma jet is held in fixed position and the seeds are placed in something like a test-tube so that the plasma being jetted doesn't freely escape, that would be sufficient.
Oooh, to see what chaotic depth of expression we can get?
In the 70's tests were made using electrostatic fields. Those that were exposed to a static charge grew faster. It wasn't mentioned but my theory is that the static charge similated conditions before and during a thunderstorm. Which encourage the plants to grow using the water available to it as fast as possible.
Or one could plant the seeds a day before an actual thunderstorm.
That would be ozone.
It’s called electroculture and it’s well proven to work
In 1988 a Swiss team from the chemical company Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) treated seeds of plants, bacteria, red blood cells, a rat heart and fish within electrostatic fields with astonishing results. Everything got much more vitality (the electrostatic field was much stronger in the past). The research was discontinued because the company did not want to destroy its own pesticide and fertilizer business.
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@@vanrensburgsgesicht I just wrote the same comment =)
*I had a lightning strike hit my corn field in the spring and by fall the plants in that area grow taller, were darker green and produced 24 cobs per stalk verse 12-14 cobs.*
Lightning strikes will cause nitrogen fixation in the soil so that would probably account for your observations.
What was the radius of the effect? Was it within one field?
@@connorjohnson4402 Could you describe what you mean? I always heard lightning helped plants by producing nitrogen but what you are saying seems a little different or no?
We are an electric universe
@@ghostrecon3214 Nitrogen fixation is the process of "fixing" nitrogen, which makes it useable by plants. This is usually done by bacteria in the soil.
You can't really "make" an element, but you can make it useable.
5:30 "cat grass" is not pure wheat grass. It's a mix of grass varieties, some of which will naturally grow faster than others, and is therefore not appropriate for experiments.
8:28 See how the seeds look different? 🤦
Vivian James! Your logic has no place here! We must operate on emotions, not rationality! Reeeee!
I jest.
I find it curious that he is using a mixture of varieties. I agree that the seed type should be standardized among the tests. Seeds from a monoculture would be best, since it is not always possible to distinguish cultured based on seed appearance.
*cultures based on
For the cat grass pouch, I used only one species of seed. There were three different seed types in the pouch from what I remembers. So, that wasn’t an introduced variable. All the grass that grew was of one species.
@@PlasmaChannel The study that reported root length to 4 significant digits is clearly bullshit.
I have 17 years worth of crop planting experience. Small time homestead. Next time you do this, soak the seeds themselves in water for about six hours first. This significantly speeds up germination time. I get my first seedlings in about a day. Hopefully this helps!
Si può fare hydroprinting con varie soluzioni minerali e ormoni .
I semi germogliano per la spinta osmotica dei minerali presenti nell'acqua, e non per la sola umidità . Quindi appesantendo l'acqua acceleri la germinazione
Si possono anche inumidire e fatti asciugare per poi riseminarli e così germogliano tutti uguale e insieme.
So Google schoolar si trovano tutti questi esperimenti per cultivar specifici
Your seeds?
You sound like a pothead.
OK, lots to unpack here. I'm a biotech scientist who has made GMOs, so I know my biology.
1. Observing seedling growth may or may not translate into meaningful CROP YIELDS.
2. Faster growth won't mean FASTER crop production. Just because you grow the plants from seed to harvest in, say, 3 weeks less, you are still only going to get 1 (or 2 for certain crops) per year (in temperate climates).
3. Important to remember that plant growth is exponential, so all you are seeing is that earlier start that puts them on an earlier trajectory. This may, or may not, mean larger plants at maturity. If the lifecycle of the plant is a certain time, then they will not produce more. If they are daylength determinant, then they might be bigger and produce more.
4. Is this extra growth only due to a faster start? If so, then what is the difference between treated and untreated that are simply panted a day earlier? This is an experiment you should do to check for increased growth rates. Do 2 controls, one started 24 hrs early and 48 hrs early. Do 1 treatment of the 30 plasma, but double the number of plants. At the end, check growth and see if your treated catch or overtake the controls.
5. Does this effect only alter water absorption and therefore increase germination speed? Try soaking a treatment in water for 12 or 24 hrs, then start your experiment and see what you get.
6. Since your radishes didn't like it, you will need to try a bunch of different crops and compare results. Why did the radishes not like it? Was that batch of seeds bad? Is it the species? Is it because it is a dicot? Lots to unpack and figure out.
7. What about less time? What is the minimum time needed to see improvement?
8. What if you pre-wet them before plasma? If the theory is increased water permeability, then what if you give them the water right at the time of plasma?
9. Oh, and back to your radishes... They are cool-weather plants. What was the soil temp at the surface under those lights? If it was too high, they will not want to break dormancy.
10. For plants you don't need quite the intricate setup. More seeds would be better in stead. Just use a flat with lights over it and drop 50 or 100 seeds per treatment to get better statistical data.
I could go on, but I think those 10 are a good place to start thinking about what you can do to improve or think of for more experiments.
As to gardeners and farmers, crop yield is what's interesting. Yes, let them grow longer and take weight measurements.
I grow plants indoors and yeah, yield is the goal.
Maybe taste and quantified caloric density.
Permaculture dgaf. Biomass is biomass. More plant biomass means more animal and fungal biomass in the future. Even if it doesn't increase crop yield directly, just do it for the cover crop. Chop it, drop it, crop it. More food for the soil while your main crop develops its roots.
For the microgreen you dont need it. Its already obvious
If you can plant twice the amount because of timing…. that doubles your yield. Time of growth 100% has everything to do with yield. Especially indoor. So I can assume you aren’t a farmer or gardener.
If I grow micro greens indoors this could be a game changer in yield, even if it doesn’t effect “yield” like you claim.
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I worked with a company about 10 years ago that is now defunct, but they used a type of plasma water treatment to grow various food crops in a way that saw tremendous growth with their hydroponic process. The plasma treatment part of their method was to energize the water with a proprietary plasma generator which the water flowed through. The water was then stored in a giant swirling tanks which was constantly being circulated with "energized" water from the plazma generator and then the water was siphoned off to fill the hydroponic containers that the plants grew in. The plants experienced tremendous rates of growth over and above what hydroponics alone provided.
The suggestion then would be to find a way to use your plasma capabilities to treat the water used for growing seeds and compare the plasma-ized water growth results to this experiment of plazma-izing the seeds.
It seems like it would be much easier to treat the water than the seeds. Would be an interesting experiment, especially in comparison of seeds vs water treatment.
Can I ask why the company went under? What you're describing seems to represent a marketable, scalable growing technique with clear advantages.
@ Unfortunately there are a great many genius ideas and technologies that never see the light of day because the brilliant inventor didn’t have an equally brilliant marketing or finance person to work with them. Or, the inventor thought they knew how or thought they could be equally brilliant in doing those things all by themselves, and failed.
Stop it. Anyone growing hydroponics is a complete fraud from the start. They could simpley replace their calcium nitrate with calcium glycinate and save their self the disgusting diseased moldy bug infested worthless flavorless non medicinal crops...
But that doesn't sell pesticides fungicides and pharmaceuticals, does it?
Please ,tell me again why someone would grow with the worst form of nitrogen that wastes the most amount of your money, the plants energy, and attracts all the pests and diseases.. ONLY TO THEN APPLY A BUNCH OF BANDAIDS???
Bandaids that never make it to market until a nice colorful label is printed?
You people are sick. There's something seriously wrong with your culture. Bandaid and disease culture.
1880s Professor Karl Selim Lemström of Helsinki University a geophysicist studying the Aurora Borealis - or Northern Lights - began to wonder if they had an effect on plant growth because he noticed that the trees in the far north grew rapidly despite the short growing season. This led him to start experimenting with the effects of atmospheric electricity on germination and plant growth.
I would try to eliminate the soil as a variable by growing the plants hydroponically. The seeds themself are also a big variable, which could be mitigated by increasing the scale, or otherwise maybe by recording the weight of the seeds?
Great suggestions, Hydroponics would help with consistency of the environment. Maybe a simple Deep Water Culture design would be easy and economical setup for an quick experiment.
Hey, we using plasma, might as well go full sci-fi future and use a fogponics chamber. Like aeroponics, but even more water efficient.
There is one German guy who grew weed seeds taller by applying a high voltage elctrical field with a condensor-like arrangement before planting them. He's been doing this for at least 10 years IIRC. His name is Segelohrenbob, but he does a lot of other weird but interesting stuff.
I really hope that Plasma Channel will do a repeat of the experiment after consulting this guy you mentioned. Hopefully he sees this!
Ebner was his name. He also treated fish.
I'd be interested in the overall implications of the treatment. It's impressive if it makes them grow taller or faster, however actual yield and its quality should also be tested and compared with a non treated batch. There are examples of speeding up tree growth to harvest faster resulting in lower strength of the wood for e.g. construction. I don't at all mean to take away from this experiment, just the opposite. I'd love more people to do this sort of independent science! 🔥
@@Riichrd "The book “The Primeval Code” by the Swiss author Luc Bürgin attracted a lot of attention in 2008. Apparently, two biologists had made an astounding discovery: Strong crops that were exposed to DC electric fields then showed a higher yield and more resistance to pest infestation. Guido Ebner, son of one of the two discoverers, has continued to pursue the research and has developed a “Greenbox” with which the “primeval code” can also be used at home.
By Daniel Ebner, Switzerland
Of the physical conditions that drive the evolution of biological forms, temperature, pressure, and electromagnetic radiation have all been scientifically studied. On the other hand, far less consideration has been given to static physical fields such as gravity and magnetic and electric fields in previous work. Their impact on biological evolution is therefore still largely unknown.
But while investigations with magnetic fields and gravity are gradually moving into the focus of biologists, research on static electric fields remains very rare. This is probably due to the doctrine that an electric field in a medium filled with charge carriers is shielded by the formation of an electrical double layer...
@@Riichrdwe're too busy pouring funding into the guttermaws of universities that are more interested in reaping profit than doing science.
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Neodymium magnets (strong 2x2in blocks) treatment to seeds has shown via experiments to make seeds grow faster after exposure to South magnetic face and normal to slower on North magnetic face. Test again with your rig. It may be the same action on the seeds as the plasma, but somewhat easier to implement.
I did some contract work for an AgTech startup called Clean Crop Tech a while back. I helped design equipment for large scale cold plasma treatment of seeds. It was wild to learn how much of a difference the plasma treatment can make. And how much of a challenge it is to consistently treat the entire 3 dimensional surface of tiny seeds at scale large enough to fill fields.
I didn't get too deep into the theory of the treatment, but there are two main reasons as to why it helps growth. 1) the cold plasma roughens the surface of the seeds and helps them absorb water and nutrients more effectively. 2) The gasses present in the plasma can embed into the surface of the seeds to provide added nourishment in the beginning stages of growth.
Would love some pointers on how you guys exposed larger areas to make this more Ag viable
if you just wanted to roughen the surface, couldn't you add some sand and shake?
I don't know the cause, but enzymes could be influenced by electrical and magnetic fields. They are very sensitive. Evolution strongly favours sprouting well and at the right time and conditions, and so these systems could be quite elaborate.
Are you sure it's not just because PLASMA creates ozone and DISINFECTS the surface of the seeds and this allows the seeds to grow inhibited by the bacteria and fungi. Plasma makes Ozone and THAT binds with ANY gases like oxygen!
@stevenpace892 Yes but the timing of those enzymes are altered differently by the magnetic and electric fields.
One would assume that offsetting the rates of reactions within the seed would negatively affect the overall function since all the products and reactants would be in a less optimized configuration.
What I believe is more probable is that a specific functionality, present in most plant species seed's, is being altered directly by either the plasma gas or the induced fields.
It's extremely hard to say exactly what is being effected, but comprehensive enzymatic assays and microscopic investigations are no doubt underway.
For the next experiment, I recommend using latex or nitrile gloves when handling seeds. This will help prevent contamination that can impact the seeds growth.
And other sources of microbial contamination - like human breath. These microbes can be detrimental to plant growth and the function of the plasma could be mere sterilization of these microbes.
definitely would like to see a larger experiment. Also, would like to see something scalable. Helium is way too expensive to be able to be useful on a farm. Thousands if not tens of thousands of seeds are going into the ground in a few hours. The time it takes to drive the machinery across the field. So, this would need a lot of work to become viable. Need to know the results at 10 sec, 15, 20 seconds of exposure, and if changing the source of the cold plasma creates a difference. Bonus points for a cold plasma that isn't going to break the bank.
helium wouldn't be as big of an issue if you use an ante-chamber / miniature glovebox type setup, reduces wasted inert gas / reuses it. seal the seeds in a chamber, use vacuum to evacuate the air, fill with helium or other inert gas for making plasma, then start the plasma process (and you could make it a more even plasma across all the seeds), vacuum out the helium / inert gas (could have valves to vacuum it to a storage tank to reuse the helium OR use an antechamber so the main chamber ALWAYS has helium in it and the ante-chamber is a smaller chamber you put the seeds in prior to entering the ante-chamber where they would be purged of oxygen / non-inert gasses). Then it may just need a small inert gas purifier unit to keep the main chamber filled with inert gas (or simply put in fresh new gas when the oxygen content starts to increase / less inert gas making the plasma less efficient / strong).
Theres def some potentially good ways of making this viable on a larger scale. If it has a significant enough effect on plant growth / growth speed to be viable cost wise hopefully it would cover the upkeep costs of the electricity and inert gas.
Plasma can't be cold. Plasma is the burning gasified form of an element. Fire is plasma.
Indoor farms
One of the paper that flashed on the screen mentioned using argon, so I'm wondering if any ol' inert gas would do.
@@AlbertaGeek Argon also works, but tends to provide a shorter plasma plume. It's what I used a decade ago to build one of these.
In my training period in a plant laboratory, we had once made an attempt with sterilized soil. The soil is heated for 2 hours. The rice plants grew much faster and looked healthier; I suspect behind the plasma-like effect that the seeds were freed from germs. In the soil, also nutrients have probably become more accessible.
All life is electromagnetic. It's more than the germs
Heated to what temperature?
@zavatone for 2 h about 100°C. Because the soil was moist, we had heating elements that were hotter, but with moisture comes steam and it doesn't get much warmer than 100°C. Elsewhere we put the soil in an autoclave, which is like an oversized pressure cooker, where you reach around 120°C at 2 bar. But it doesn't have to remain highly sterile; the worst pests, such as nematodes, are killed off at 60 to 80°C.
the waving the small wand across the multiple seeds means it wasnt exact timing on the seeds, on average i would say the central seeds would probably get more exposure than the edge seeds just because of the left to right motion, if you could make more of an airblade type nozzle and equally heat all of them 30 seconds you will probably get different results again (also making the lights adjustable height might help too, in addition, seeing the end result of the 120 seconds exposure could help towards what to expect if we are ever hit by a high energy solar plasma shot)
The thing is with making a better option for exposure would probably need 10 or 15 second increments over a full 30 second separation, this would gain better datasets, there is also the option for the damp paper towel germination occasionally used before potting, this is an accepted method and you would also be able to measure root growth differences pre potting
agreed, and I noticed how he was missing the seeds at the end a majority of the treatment.
Do you remember what it really looks like, and how it can be aimed from a distance. the plasma, found its shell, even underneath...
Agreed, also, is the 30/60/120 second plasma for each seed or for the entire lot of seeds? based on what he showed I'm assuming it's split between all of them. needs more samples of course as well.
Yup. I like those ideas.
I suggested sweeping vertically across each seed a set number of times, or mounting the wand on a small stand and making up a tiny turntable with dimples for the seeds with a little geared motor to control speed, then give it x number of rotations to create pulsed exposure. Continual exposure may yield different results also.
Little turntable thing means he gets to show off the 3D printers again which seem to be an audience-pleaser.
SO many variables in this kind of experiment. I'd love to see it expanded in all sorts of ways.
If the channel was a circle it would be easier to efficiently give the seeds a more equal treatment
ok now blast it for 5, 10, 20, 30 minutes to get complete mutated species.
Plants walk by themselves
@@GreenFarmer_97 Day of the Triffids!
Honestly, if plasma affects evolution enough to make a new species, that would be research worthy of a Nobel Prize.
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French physicist who invented the "electro-vegetometer" in the 1780s inspired the technique. This device was a lightning rod that delivered atmospheric electricity to crops.
Awesome experiment man. I’ll have to watch your cold plasma builds video
Thank you, I appreciate ya! I linked the cold plasma video in the top comment
Good job, fast growing can also be used for faster breed selection without genetic modifications.
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I think is very cool, but just 6 seeds for something as hugely variable as a plant is basically meaningless, you should do like 50 at least
You're missing a 0 there
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It's not even that, grass seeds he used are mix of 4 different species which all grow at different rates...
@@carboxysome2630 wait what? How did I not notice
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I observed something like this on a divider, every single tree which is beside the power line along with a light pole, they grow faster than the others, I theorized it's due to the electric field or magnetic flux generated by the AC power line. But it's finally due to the street light beside it which is helping it to some extent in photosynthesis 24/7😂.
Damn, good point
It's extremely unlikely that a light source at that distance would effect plant growth, when growing plants inside the same light source in a street light is optimally no more than 2 or three feet away from plants due to the inverse square law, a light 20 feet away would have about 120th of the light energy than an optimally placed source that's less than 1 percent.
Loads of trees grow under or near power lines, but I have never seen any tree under or near them which grew faster, or any other kind of plant either. If we're talking about lines that run through the cut lanes in the woods, well trees that have more room to grow, do tend to grow faster.
In my case they are on divider and are lined. So I observed every single tree(literally every single one) which beside the light pole grown taller than rest of trees in the line@@lepayen
I'm more inclined to believe the OP observations rather than replies that are from people that neither observed or did their own tests.
bro's videos always amaze me. three consecutive videos of him, electret, cold plasma, and cold plasma plant treatment all just blew my mind. cool youtuber he is.
Edit: Thank you plazma channel for replying, I wasn't expecting that 😅
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Interesting concept. This could be easily added to existing machinery to "treat" seeds just before planting.
1. More seeds to get statistical consistent data(at least 100 of each)
2. Level yhe substrate and cover with vermiculite and level again
3. Try different plasma gas that is available at industrial scale and cheaper
4. Instead of soil try maybe a nutrients free substrate and fertilse only with liquid solutions to grant homogeneous conditions
5. Let us know when you open your mary jane business
For the 1, a 10x10 3D printed planter to even out the spacing could be nice (you mentionned it was a problem, that would fix both spacing and depth of the seeds)
2 would help too
4 is interesting too
For 36 years I've been growing wheatgrass and selling it to health food stores. When I saw that short growth scale I had to smile. Wheatgrass grows MUCH faster than lawn grass.
Well where were you when I was building my growth containers?! I wish i knew that haha.
how to: grow wheat grass, sell it to health food stores, make a livable profit? 💚
I am an agricultural engineer and your experience inspired me, maybe I will try it on the wheat crop
Thank you for your great work, you are Amazing
Make a video about how it goes ❤
Great start with this experiment! I'd love to see it repeated with more traditional growing cells. I also find it interesting that the germination all seemed to be located on one side of your grow set ups, the left. That is odd. Ultimately while I do think it's a very promising start I don't trust that the set up was to best practices. I know a lot of seedlings get started with the help of humidity domes, and I'm also concerned about the closeness of the lights. Most seedling plant cells are also deeper and wider to my eye, which could have been a factor too.
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I like the concept and I'd love to see more data. I think you have a nice suggestion of possible improved growth but if you can achieve a rate of +50% then a slower growing specie might be a better candidate than a more rapidly growing specie. Seeing variance (even a high degree of variance) in an already fast growing plant like wheat grass may be more easily attributable to seedling genetic luck whereas if you took a specie that took longer to grow like a lettuce, bean, or tomato plant and got a 50% increased growth rate then it is harder to pass off the height differential as just fortunate seedlings. You might also encounter other differentials in growth patterns over a longer time frame with lettuce, bean, or tomato plants.
Interesting, I'd love far more detail on how to DIY this. We have 2 grow racks in our dining room that we use for starting seeds int he spring and grow experimental peppers and the like the rest of the year. I'd love to tinker.
Literally on his channel
You could try a small plasma jet, they sell them as a beauty product.
Well, let's get it validated first with more experiments, then let's find out why it works. Then, let's simplify the process and get a DIY product.
it's important to note that faster growth doesn't come free, making plants grow faster tend to result in less nutritious plants.
Increasing CO2 will do that.
@@andrewradford3953?? Do what?
@@3RR0RNULL I'm clutching my pearls, heavens no shamus
@@andrewradford3953why does that sound like big oil propaganda against big renewables?
Same nutrition per unit, lower nutrition per weight.
Great work as always! Love the comments, lots of help, this video definitely needs a part 2.
emf at certain frequencies through a magnet with no core can also grow plants faster. low frequency. I tested this too
How to use plasma for anything. Truly a plasma channel
Dude, you have no idea I took first place in science fair 25 years ago for this! I'm finally glad to see someone going after it.
I did this experiment in 99 for my middle school science fair. I always wondered what it would be like to electrocute plants and see if you can stimulate growth. I went through the process of hooking different batteries to plants but I also use a few different circuits that would generate a higher voltage. I found out that about 1.3 to 1.5 volts ay a few milliamps would cause a substantial change in the growth of the plant. It was a lot of research but I never thought about using cold plasma. This is also 99 so we didn't know about cold plasma too much. Still I'm glad to see someone go after the fact that plants do respond to electricity and certain voltages and amperages can in fact enhance growth rather than inflict a negative consequence on them. Everybody told me I was crazy and then I was lucky for taking first place so I quit following it but 25 years later I'm kicking myself in the ass for it.
I am and grew up as an agricultural specialist. My literal life has been spent in the dirt. I have grown many of palm trees and smaller plants so this experiment was right up my alley as well as irrigation design and layout. I was considered add back in the day when they wanted the cram medicine down to your throat. I quit taking my medicine one year into it and really embraced the add. Everybody has called me crazy throughout the years because I've built some of the most advanced hydrogen units as well as some of the craziest experiments, like electric heating plants. We all work off of energy and that's what everybody fails to see. I see Life in a different perspective and I wish people could keep up. It takes about 10 years before people realize I am right and then they forget about me. I never record what I do because usually I'm on the precipice of the most dangerous sciences. I love what I do in my spare time but if it's seen by the wrong person it could go very wrong very quickly. Thanks to you and quite a few different content creators I really regret the fact that I haven't turned on the camera but I still worry about some of the things you guys do😅 you're catching up but if the public knew what really existed they would really freaked out and wonder why it's not already mainstream. It's just too dangerous at the moment. Even this, what I had to do about 25 years ago to do this experiment was way too dangerous for anybody and I should not have known how to do it in Middle School.
I didn't know you were using helium called plasma, electrical plasma works better by the way😂
Do you think you're electrocuting and but you're not.
Also if you look back in your comments throughout all of your videos you'll realize I think commenting the same thing so I'm not kidding when I say this! 😅
Use a cylindrical silver rod with a lead ring at the bottom and a durable copper wire wrapped around it with its end at the top of the rod. Connect a plasma source to the wire and place the rod inside the soil so that the lead ring is immersed in the soil
honestly, i am proud of your experiment. Can you please do this again but with clones not seeds. Also, you can just buy them inside a plastic tube growing in the gel.
Dude this is great stuff. I own/operate a tree nursery. We'll plant about 3 million seeds this spring. It would be cool to have a cold plasma treatment on some seeds🎄🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲⚛️
Fascinating. It would be interesting if long term exposure makes any difference, as a daily 5, 10, 15, 20 second zap. Could be more consistent with use of simple cotton wool instead of soil.
I use a technique taught to me in the 80s to germinate. The roots always bigger than when I don't use it. If you don't have a way to toughen the plant up before it gets too big, its a waste of time.
Also pay attention to the big electrical towers near highways when you drive. The grass and other plants always grow faster. I'm sure if you talk to those that cut it, they'll tell you its harder to cut than the rest.
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I'm curious about the fruits we get at the end. Are there any studies that showcase the effects of cold plasma on the quality and composition of the fruits?
I imagine it would be less nutritious
The flavours might be inferior. Good wine grapes come from areas were the don't grow the fastest
I would love to see this done again with lessons learned. I also think that it would be more fair to have all the containers contain all versions of the seeds, obviously clearly marked. This would avoid the issue of differences in the containers themselves, maybe one was closer to a draught, or heat source etc
At the beginning of every video about making things better that could help everyone, I always remember there is no cure for greed and that most evil come from the same group of people.
Good video. Need to experiment with crop seeds like corn, wheat, soybeans, etc.
I think a scale up is needed. As well as a better way to apply the cold plasma. Blasting one side of one seed at a time seems like it may have skewed the results a bit.
faster plant growing?! *heavy german breathing*
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Lmao I was wondering if I'd see this xD- All legal over there, some common sense in Germany like that is amazing... lead by example.
Germany Hads legal weed
@@N4CR our politicians need to be re-elected next year February and the CDU (christian democratic union) already said if they get elected they will revert the legalization. so yeah.. lets hope they t´didnt make it :D
@@heidenmensch4809 Ugh, same thing happening in Thailand next year apparently..
It's not a political subject and should never have been, it's a personal freedom and choice.
Oooo new science vid? Yes please 😮
I would love to see the next evolution of this experiment - more precision, shorter intervals, and larger scale.
Always watch your videos when they come out, thank you for keeping up the good work!
Go bigger and longer. Look at a few others and chart to full growth. Otherwise if only a few hours and only as seedling this would really only help indoor automated conveyor belt style farms
0:19 "see the difference?" nope
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This reminds me of "Der Urzeitcode", a research done in the 80s in Austria, where they exposed seeds and fish eggs to electrostatic fields, which made the plants and fish resilient to pretty much all pests and diseases and also "reset" them to an older version. Corn treated this way carried 2-3 times the amount of corn cobs.
Facts. ElectroAdaptation is the real Evolution theory
This was pretty interesting, and thank you for citing some references. I will have to add, however, that germination speeds and growth rates do not necessarily equal quality vegetation!
I'd like to see a longer term experiment where you grow a fruit or vegetable that you eat at the end..
Scarification via cold plasma blasting? How does it compare to a knife though?
8:34 The seeds not treated with plasma go into the soil with no prep? That's an error. When you plant seeds, you should moisturize them for a day in advance. This will kick start the growth.
It is standard practice. Not testing against it is an error. Nobody serious about growing fast is planting dry.
A nutritional uptake evaluation is essential.
Commercial outlets grow plants more rapidly than usual.
However, nutritional researchers are concerned due to the lack of essential trace mineral uptake in the rapidly grown plants.
Another thought is that due to the plants passing the artificial full spectrum lights in growth
Is it possible the photosynthesis process was interrupted?
Would that be a concern for reevaluation?
Maturity of roots would allow uptake of minerals. Faster growth of roots should be good.
Cool stuff! Would love to see them grown to harvest and tested for nutrient density.
Love your channel. This is an interesting idea that needs lots more data.
I would do diff plants in different “pots”
They have diff needs.
Radish will be the fastest turnover. But maybe it affects grasses and root veg differently….
Like I said….. sssooooo much potential data..
Bro's been using the special plasma on himself. We need to figure out how to sell this to the "fitness" community. lol
it's just nitrogen fertilizer, it's not a new technology, plasma was used to produce nitrogen fertilizer in regions with cheap electricity, but now other methods are used.
I don't know much about it, so don't judge too harshly
that would make sense if he was treating the soil.
He is treating the seeds.
If he was converting the seeds into fertilizer they would not grow, animals and humans doing something equivalent when we make bread out of wheat seed and scrabled eggs out of chicken seed
@@AnonymousAnarchist2 The plasma could just be sterilizing microbes that are detrimental to seed germination and plant growth.
Lighting is part of the nitrogen cycle
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Nice video
Just so you know the faster a plant grows the more easy disease such as fungus takes hold so your method would be extra interesting tested on tree cuttings cultured into making roots
I think you're on the right track talking with the expert in growing many ofvthe same specific species of algae and then tracking their metabolism via respiration/O2-production
Vid actually begins at 4:08
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i would love to see further experiment. i think you need to create some sort of cold plasma chamber, i think you already know why and i bet you already had the thought. next you need a much larger group to test. grass is pretty good because of the fast results. of course next after that should be larger plants, maybe a production plant eventually.
the exploration of application during growth would be intriguing also.
but please, do not get too distracted from your ion engine work.
I feel like you could achieve similar or better results just scuffing the outside of the seeds with something like sand paper or a tumbler. Scuffing seeds is a common gardener's trick to help greatly increase both speed and chance of germination.
first of all this experiment is very interesting it's awesome, i would like to see the results on tomatoes and cucumbers
i was wondering if there was a non-gm accelerant just yesterday. cool and unprecedented video
I don’t normally comment about sponsors, but opera really is a good browser. I use it often on my pc and my phone. I’m going to have to look into making my own cold plasma generator. Not sure about getting helium…
You need to grow something from start to finish to determine whether or not it increases or decreases overall crop yield. That is what really matters.
I excited a plasma globe and then adjusted it down to the lowest amount of energy I could keep it excited at and after a week of sitting next to my plants I noticed they grew twice as much as the ones further away. They also began to face the plasma rather than the LED grow lights. I think even week non visual plasma partially induces energy into the electrolytes in the soil and CO2 which seems to increase nutrient absorption
I think it would be interesting to see this experiment done on some major food crops. If you have the room it would be cool to see what the plasma would do to rice, corn, soybeans, and true potato seeds.
Perhaps you could team up with a you tube garden to help you grow out your treated crops.
Obviously the longer plasma time adversely effects the seeds but what if you reduced it a bit and thus induced mutation but got better germination. It would be interesting to see. Mutation is part of the story of our modern crops and it would be interesting to see what plasma creates
Cool, you should also try first soaking them for a few hours and then treating them. The results might vary a lot.
Interesting! Totally caught my surprise to find you working with plants. I have some thoughts:
-first of all, I am now very curious to see this done in the field. How do results change in a more natural context?
- I'm equally as interested to find out why this works. Is it basically just scarification, or is something else going on?
- I wonder how these results would change in different soils. Adjusting variables like pH or cation exchange capacity could be fun?
Anyway, keep it up! This is the kind of science programming I want to follow.
Fascinating experiment it would be interesting to to do one with not only cold plasma but have sealed chambers adding controlled amounts of CO2. Add a second experiment using electrostatic charge and CO2.
Neat. I would like to see an experiment with food plants that grow all the way to harvest to see the long term impact. They might germinate faster, but how does it affect the rest of the plants life cycle?
im 100% treating my whole garden like an experiment. doing my rows in a gradient from least to most exposure. not doing a scientific test, but a real world application. gonna start treating some seeds now and some later to see if time after treatment is a factor. wont satisfy a paper but might be good eating. think il do exposure starting at 20 and going to 90 in incriments of ten and split for old vs recent treatment.
50 years ago I ran a small hydroponic lettuce farm. 1000 plants per week. I noticed I got faster seed sprout if I talked to the seeds while I was planting the seed. I also acheived faster growth by talking to the plants when the were in the growing area. All anecdotal of course.
The impossible rice experiment confirms this
It would be hilarious if you found different results depending on how you talked to them.
fantastic experiment. I can see a couple of things that would be great to improve upon in a version 2.
1) build a little jig that accepts 1 seed at a time for the plasma exposure. Automate the exposure process so that the application of plasma is as precise as possible.
2) plant different exposure seeds next to each other such that one container has 1 x control, 1x 30 sec, 1 x 60 sec and 1 x 120 sec. This way you can minimise the effect that the soil / light and any other environmental changes might have on growth. As the current issue is that one container might be a more suitable environment for growth compared to another.
3) run the experiment for longer. although it seems like there is linear growth, it may change over the period of a week or a month.
4) have small seed holders buried in the soil in each container so that they all start at the same height.
5) plant waaaay more seeds.
6) every day, remove a small sample from each exposure time and control seeds and measure their growth by taking the wet or dry mass of the plant. More destructive but you can get a more accurate reading compared to eyeballing the height.
7) conclude the final verdict of 'better growth' by weighing the final wet or dry mass.
Lastly, and this isn't regarding the experimental process, but is this even needed? Is the time, effort, money and energy put into this process (especially at scale) worth the reward? Are there any calculations that can be made to see how much more plant you get for the extra effort invested at the start?
need to control plasma exposure better. needs more seeds, individually measured. needs more growth space. would be interesting to track germination to harvest. very nice work, thanks for sharing.
Fascinating. More please! Would love to see the resulting vegetables too.
Thats a really cool topic to cover. I'd love to see more of this. Has this already some real world implications ?
Prob a weird a statement, but those graphs look hella awesome.
1. You could put the cold plasma tool head onto a regular 3d printer, then sandwich the seeds between 2 stainless steel mesh grids (or other inert material) to clamp down on the seeds in a flat grid, this way you can see if flipping the seeds over and getting both sides increases the growth at all. Obviously the 3d printer would make the plasma application way more straightforward and controlled. Then plant them that way.
Or, you stick them on top of a paper towel with some sticky non toxic fixative so they don't move, again in a grid, then have the 3d printer spray plasma, then cover them with soil (there would be a layer of soil under the paper towel as well). Then instead of taking mass measurements of each seed you could maybe take a overhead picture of each seed and using a computer, have a custom program guess the seed's mass, then that could feed into the 3d printer tool path to determine how much plasma each seed gets.
2. To eliminate the variable of some spouts getting more light than others by virtue of sprouting first, you could start out with the lights up higher and further away, so that you don't have and bias to the first spouts that got a head start, mimicking more how crops would actually grow in sunlight. To make sure they get enough light you would need a more powerful grow light and some reflective panels.
3. Another route to go would be to see if pre-treating the seeds with anything would have an impact. A pre wash with just water? (or other sterilization method) A quick dip in fungicide? A fertilizer?
4. Observing the seeds in other growth environments simultaneously. Growing in different soil types. With different additives within the soils. (fertilizer treatments, fungicide, soil samples looking into the different dominant bacteria species, ect.) Growing some hydroponically, growing some in different lighting intensities/spectrums. Growing some in different levels of humidity.
5. Like others have mentioned: Adjusting the plasma. Different gasses used: Helium, Argon, Nitrogen, ect.
6. Taking precautions with microbes on hands and breath using gloves and a mask and a relatively clean environment for transplantation.
Plasma, Georges Lahkovsky did a lot of research on this subject! Highly recommend checking out his research into the multiple wave oscillator
Wonder if it has the same effect on human seeds? Jay spends so much time playing with plasma his swimmers are going to create super heros!
electrostatically treated seeds show similar early germination and growth rates, this has been known since the 70s at least. however growth rates do not translate into measurable increased crop yields or early harvestability afaik
Nice video, thanks! I'm curious to see mass production difference instead of growth rate.
Using a heatseak to hold the seeds is sucha geek move; i love it!
My cat has a habit of putting her dry food into her water.
So I'm using an old ide hard drive CD ROM bay switch, as a soacer ro separate her food and water dish.
If you don't know what a hdd rom bay switch is, just imagine an old pc cd/dvd rom drive standing on its side.
I wish TH-cam had a way to include a quick low res photo with a comment.
So I have a thought. Instead of separating your chambers by exposure, I’d separate them by plant variety. And I’d also alternate exposure types by position in a chamber. For instance C,30,60,90,120,C,30,60,90,120,… to the end of the chamber. This way, you’d eliminate any variables in the chambers or variables within the lighting/heating within any one chamber itself.
Now if plasma could wipe out powdery mildew, I’d be very impressed.
should of put in a grounding wire into the soil -
grow some Tulsi basil , holy basil . seeds in schisandra berries are hard2sprout .....
make some sprouted coconuts - or sprout mango seeds .
electro culture , tensor ring ,
orgonite with rodin coils ,
soak seeds in monoatomic 'gold' salts