The cost to Toyota is probably only paying 1 to 2 grand (USD) for the engines in bulk. They already ship them from Alabama to Texas, so shipping from Alabama to dealers is probably not much more. Crate engines take liability off of the dealer techs, reduces the warranty time. the replacement timeframe is because they pull the cab to replace the engine.
One issue is that service intervals are insane. On a new car, my cars go to the dealer at about 1,000 miles for the first service. Engine oil, transmission fluid, differential oil, brake fluid, and coolant. Of course, if drain plugs are not already magnetized, I put magnets in them to remove any filings from the curculating fluid. Oil changes are done at 3,000 mile or 3 month intervals. Brake fluid, engine coolant, and transmission fluid every 2 years. Differential fluid every two years or immediately after driving through deep water. That is how a 400,000 mile Volvo 240 was running perfectly when rot took it off the road. Also how my brother's 86 Mercury Colony Park was running like new at 550,000 miles.
Nobody talks about it anymore about but aluminum blocks are not nearly as strong or dimensionally rigid like iron blocks. Super important when the engine is supercharged or turbocharged. I personally would prefer an iron block but I guess the weight aspect argues against it in modern automobiles. In this case they are blaming metal shavings. I'm still surprised Toyota went with an aluminum casting.
It would be nice, but the EPA got involved. V-8 emits 8 pulses of exhaust , while a V-6 only emits 6 pulses, a 25% reduction, twin turbos give you the V8 power when needed.
This causes a huge potential problem for Toyota because if I owned a brand new tundra and they had to replace my engine under a recall I would immediately ask them to buy it back or pay the difference in lost value because a car with a replaced engine is viewed as less valuable. Just ask anyone who has a wreaked vehicle that went to trade it in about diminished value. It is perceived by a potential buyer to have less value.
I don't see how anyone can trust this engine without serious design revision to areas such as the bearing, its material, increased bearing surface, improved oiling, chain tension, etc. What I also find unusual in this engine is that the exhaust cams are driven by a small chain connected to the intake cam. I don't know if this allows for lesser tension on its main chain connected to the crank or not. Using a bedplate system for the crank has been used by many other manufacturers successfully without problems. Plasma arc sprayed aluminum cylinders, while I'm not a fan, is the new standard among all manufacturers. What's interesting is that the early Lexus LS500s have been doing fine on these engines but that could be due to lesser drivetrain load.
@@jmc6000 At the moment, fortunately No, I’m Japanese and living in Japan, but we cannot see any engine replacement recall about LS500, LX, LC300 and GX550 too, I think those all have assembled in Japan engine....
I just bought my 4th Tundra last October, a 2023 SR5 V-6 Twin Turbo. I was a bit skeptical about the V-6 because my last Tundra was a 2010 Rock Warrior with a 5.7 V-8, and I wanted the same power and towing capacity. So far, I have had absolutely no problem with towing and/or hauling, and it's been put to the test several times, too. In fact, the new Tundra seems to accelerate a lot faster, than my V-8. I haven't received any recall notice from Toyota, so I don't know if my truck is on a recall list or not. I guess I'll call the car dealer tomorrow and check. Fortunately, my son now has the Rock Warrior and he's just as happy with it, as I was.
hold on to those V8s. What a mess. Glad they have stepped up instead of waiting for the class action lawsuits. They need to get back to the Toyota production philosophies, otherwise that little oh what a feeling jingle is going to mean something else.
The choice/decision to run this super thin oil to save a few HP is IMO insane!!! There are many other, more viable, things you can do to increase an engines efficiency. The safe zone for your engine's survival is so narrow with this light oil that any problem that will eventually happen with your engine management systems, will destroy your engine!!! The risk, for a few HP, is not worth the cost!! The real problem is these bureaucrats that think, just because they want it, that it is possible!!!! Just an engineer's viewpoint.
The cost to Toyota is probably only paying 1 to 2 grand (USD) for the engines in bulk. They already ship them from Alabama to Texas, so shipping from Alabama to dealers is probably not much more. Crate engines take liability off of the dealer techs, reduces the warranty time. the replacement timeframe is because they pull the cab to replace the engine.
One issue is that service intervals are insane. On a new car, my cars go to the dealer at about 1,000 miles for the first service. Engine oil, transmission fluid, differential oil, brake fluid, and coolant. Of course, if drain plugs are not already magnetized, I put magnets in them to remove any filings from the curculating fluid. Oil changes are done at 3,000 mile or 3 month intervals. Brake fluid, engine coolant, and transmission fluid every 2 years. Differential fluid every two years or immediately after driving through deep water. That is how a 400,000 mile Volvo 240 was running perfectly when rot took it off the road. Also how my brother's 86 Mercury Colony Park was running like new at 550,000 miles.
The only thing you will wear out by changing your oil frequently is the drain plug!!!
Maintenance is key on any vehicle
I carry all of my fluids in the truck. As soon as I pull out of the deep water, I drain all the fluids right there on the trail.
You’re doing too much.
Nobody talks about it anymore about but aluminum blocks are not nearly as strong or dimensionally rigid like iron blocks. Super important when the engine is supercharged or turbocharged. I personally would prefer an iron block but I guess the weight aspect argues against it in modern automobiles. In this case they are blaming metal shavings. I'm still surprised Toyota went with an aluminum casting.
I believe the 2AZ-FE was the last iron-block Toyota engine from 2000 to 2019. So, they've had success with aluminum blocks outside of this disaster.
If my car has no issues, can Toyota deny the engine exchange? Or do I need to have a failure? Thanks for the help
You won’t have any issues with Toyota. They’ll replace your engine if it was made during a certain timeframe.
Bring back the V8, should never of discontinued them.
It would be nice, but the EPA got involved. V-8 emits 8 pulses of exhaust , while a V-6 only emits 6 pulses, a 25% reduction, twin turbos give you the V8 power when needed.
Toyota was developing the next gen v8 bi-turbo engine, until Biden become president of the US...
This causes a huge potential problem for Toyota because if I owned a brand new tundra and they had to replace my engine under a recall I would immediately ask them to buy it back or pay the difference in lost value because a car with a replaced engine is viewed as less valuable. Just ask anyone who has a wreaked vehicle that went to trade it in about diminished value. It is perceived by a potential buyer to have less value.
I would imagine wrecked and motor swapped for a brand new updated motor are different things.
I don't see how anyone can trust this engine without serious design revision to areas such as the bearing, its material, increased bearing surface, improved oiling, chain tension, etc. What I also find unusual in this engine is that the exhaust cams are driven by a small chain connected to the intake cam. I don't know if this allows for lesser tension on its main chain connected to the crank or not. Using a bedplate system for the crank has been used by many other manufacturers successfully without problems. Plasma arc sprayed aluminum cylinders, while I'm not a fan, is the new standard among all manufacturers. What's interesting is that the early Lexus LS500s have been doing fine on these engines but that could be due to lesser drivetrain load.
In Japan, there is no recall about v35a, maybe it's only made in Alabama factory....
The recall effects the Japanese engines as well
@@jmc6000 At the moment, fortunately No, I’m Japanese and living in Japan, but we cannot see any engine replacement recall about LS500, LX, LC300 and GX550 too, I think those all have assembled in Japan engine....
I just bought my 4th Tundra last October, a 2023 SR5 V-6 Twin Turbo. I was a bit skeptical about the V-6 because my last Tundra was a 2010 Rock Warrior with a 5.7 V-8, and I wanted the same power and towing capacity. So far, I have had absolutely no problem with towing and/or hauling, and it's been put to the test several times, too. In fact, the new Tundra seems to accelerate a lot faster, than my V-8. I haven't received any recall notice from Toyota, so I don't know if my truck is on a recall list or not. I guess I'll call the car dealer tomorrow and check.
Fortunately, my son now has the Rock Warrior and he's just as happy with it, as I was.
Yeah you bought junk.😅
@@dang75790 This is coming from the adolescent, who's dream car is a Yugo.
Only old timers worshiped v8. Turbos make any size engine powerful.
What is the new engine going to be?
An updated version of the current design engine that is being replaced
@@jmc6000 How much oil will it hold?
hold on to those V8s. What a mess.
Glad they have stepped up instead of waiting for the class action lawsuits.
They need to get back to the Toyota production philosophies, otherwise that little oh what a feeling jingle is going to mean something else.
Exactly why I grabbed a GX460. Last Toyota V8. grab a model near the end of its product cycle as the kinks are generally worked out by then.
all cars today are over priced piles of junk.
The choice/decision to run this super thin oil to save a few HP is IMO insane!!! There are many other, more viable, things you can do to increase an engines efficiency. The safe zone for your engine's survival is so narrow with this light oil that any problem that will eventually happen with your engine management systems, will destroy your engine!!! The risk, for a few HP, is not worth the cost!! The real problem is these bureaucrats that think, just because they want it, that it is possible!!!! Just an engineer's viewpoint.