CCI Standard Velocity “Target” is all I shoot.. I have 4 22 lr firearms.. 1 rifle (Tippman Arms M4 Elite), and 3 handguns (Smith and Wesson Model 41 Performance Center) (Sig Sauer P322) Ruger Mark II Target 6” Stainless Bull Barrel)… All love this ammo and thankfully it’s also the least expensive CCI!!
I just sighted in my old single shot, heavy barrel Schultz & Larsen rifle with the 710fps... It shoots consistently two inch groups at 80 meters... 15 shots within 3 minutes, all within the two inch circle... Bolt action is the way to go 😉😉😉
The Velocitor is my favorite also it's the fastest most accurate 40 grain hollow point on the market. It hits hard penetrats deep leaves impressive wound cavity.
It really goes to show how you need to test several different kinds of ammunition in your specific rifle. Of all the ammunition that you tried in your Ruger 10/22, my heavy barreled Remington 597 does the best with the Standard velocity (with similar results to yours), followed by the Mini Mags at a very close second place. My 16” barrel HATED Stingers; I could barely get 10 rounds to stay on an 8.5x11” sheet of loose leaf paper at 50 yards. I was disappointed and happy at the same time: disappointed because I like the idea of the speed that the stingers offer, but happy that the mini mags did better because they are cheaper to buy than the stingers are. Haha. If I’m doing a competition or plinking, I use the standard velocity, but when I hunt small game, I swap over to the mini mags. I keep both anyways because my Sig 1911.22 lr cycles mini mags better than the SV 😉👍🏼
Thanks, yeah so far it seem on top, it seems to like the heavier slow moving rounds, so im going to be testing what i can find in similar velocity with varying weights
I found that I have to re-zero my sights for each different type of ammo. My favorite for all around accuracy and consistency is the CCI Mini Mag Copper Plated 40 gr round nose at 1235 fps. The faster rounds always shoot higher and faster doesn't always mean better. For example, like those crazy CCI Quik-Shok Ammunition 22 Long Rifle 32 Grain Plated Lead Hollow Points seem sexy but they you have to zero the gun just for them and they don't group that well. Just too hot.
I find the best grouping with my CZ 452 comes from subsonic rounds regardless of the manufacturer. It is true that different guns prefer different types of ammo; mine likes Winchester 40 grain subsonics the best. The problem with accuracy of high velocity rounds is caused by the transition of the bullet from supersonic to subsonic speed. I also find that cleaning the barrel infrequently is best to maintain a "lead lining" which seems to help.
I had similar experience with my CZ455 HB. Rifling is made for 40grains 1050fps. I suggest non coated bullets. This is the way...i tried 40kind of different ammo excluding them test after test at the range. Best ammo ever is Lapua Center X. Second best is CCI standard. I had decent results with ELEY sport.
Sort of off topic but I use CCI Green Tag with very pleasing results in my Ruger MK II slab side competition target pistol, (Volquartsen hammer and sear). From a rest it will shoot less than 1 inch all day at 20 metres. I consider that to be very good.
Dude I shoot my 10/22 standard Takedown barrel this good with Winchester 555 bulk ammo, Backwards, through a mirror. Just wanted to swing it with some of the other guys in this video thread. My range is only 25 yards, they're very strict on gun handling and I go through a whole bunch of shooting when I get there so honest results with tired fingers aren't realiable. I do know three things for sure. 1. You are showing what CCI ammo works well in your barrel and hopefully, a tried and trued barrel with plenty of rounds through it to ensure its all worn in well. 2. Even with bulk ammo, the majority of the center of my targets are worn out. Jeest ignore that one up by the carriage clamp, nobody was supposed to be looking then anyways, and all them other "flyers". 3. My STNKIN range is closing on October 16th, 2020. Died of friggin effects of Covid economy. At my local gunstore, they have the bulk ammo out on a skid for us plinkers. That good good CCI stuff, well everything but minimags, are behind the shelf with the other rifle rounds. I'm cheap, I admit it. But it's more accurate, fun and less work then my 22 caliber break barrel springer pellet gun. Keep on shooting. Oh, and that mirror shot, I was doing it between my legs too.
CCI standard for accuracy on all bolt action (great forcz455). Mini mags for all semiautos. Go on high speed only if you wanna use them for pest control. High speed will push your rifle away from accuracy, always.
my 22mag can do nickel sized groups at 50 or 75yrds with maxi mag +v. And would shot gun everything else i tried the slower the worse it seemed to like them.
Those groups are well within Ruger's accuracy standard. They wouldn't accept my Ruger American Rimfire back for service because my group size was within their standards. They weren't within mine. I am used to my Marlins and Savage.
So i sold my 1022 (the one in this video) and got the ruger rpr rimfire. Ive torqued the bolts to spec (result 4" groups at 100m) tried all kinds of .22lr ammo. .. i may need to send it back lol, wish i hadnt sold my 1022!
@@EpikArms I just went ahead and recrowned my barrel and got better groups. Still a challenge but it is better. The representative that denied my return was female and sounded like a redhead. LOL.. If you get her try to talk to the supervisor.
Apparently the compact is better than the 22" model. I want to cut the barrel down about 3cm. A combination of barrel harmonics and the deceleration in the last couple inches.
The CCI Green Tag is supposed to be their most accurate target ammo. Funny, it has the exact same specs as the Std Velocity but at 3X the price. I've tested them both and have seen zero difference. Ammo's under 1125 fps always seem to be much more accurate in my 10/22 with a 16.5" Kidd barrel. You can check out my comparisons on my channel.
I've had great results from the CCI Standard Velocity 40 grain. Tight groups at 50 yards and I've pushed them out to 200 yards, hitting a 6" steel plate, nine times, using a Savage Mk.2 21" heavy barrel.
@@aannddyychang6162 The CCI Standard 40gr. I like is pushing just under supersonic, 1070fps at the muzzle. What might happen is as the round nose pushes the air out of the way, the air may speed up as it passes over the profile, causing it to "crack" the sound barrier.
Yeah the 1022 generally like the 40 grain and at speeds around 1060, athough failure to eject are the tradof for accuracy. (Unless you lighten the bolt that is.
I shot some CCI Standards today, for the first time. They shot "slightly" better groups. But, nothing to brag about. Plus, I don't like the lower POI change with them. I'll stick to my Federal 550 bulk, and my CCI 36g. Mini Mags. They both hit the same POI. So, I practice with the Fed., and hunt with the Mini Mags.
though i dont find minimags to be nearly as accurate as SV, ive never seen anything even remotely close to as bad as that group. That thing really hates those MMs
I found the best accuracy with those CCI Standard velocity rounds out of both a Marlin M60 and High Standard Supermatic Citation pistols. Marlin M60 was made by new Remington group but was still accurate as my older JM Marlin. I have a Ruger 10-22 but haven't tried them in it. Maybe that would be a good idea. That CCI standard velocity has beat everything else I've put thru my guns. Some other brands of "Match" ammo really was disappointing.
Ruger 10/22 "International" Sight - in, CCI 40g RN next is the HP 36g, SV 40g rn, Aguila 40g RN. Finally Norma 40g RN. F A M but you got to weigh them, 100 rounds a 1.1 grain difference from lightest to heaviest. Middle is 51.6 gn, these will land one on top of the other. Light ones hit low and to the right, the heavy ones hit hit and left.
This week I had similar results from my Ruger 10/22 with standard factory barrell, mini mags were all over the place in a random 10 inch group, then I switched to Stingers and was able to put all 10 rounds through a hole the size of a 2 euro coin. Multiple times over. I guess some rifles just like certain types of ammo. It's a shame though because over here in Ireland a box of 100 mini mags cost 15-17 Euro but stingers are roughly €15 for box of 50 rounds.
Its funny that people call shots they pull as a "flyer" lol. A flyer is a round that's off from the group due to an ammo problem, light charge, a bullet wight thats off or something like that.
Take out the flyers? Do you also stack the deck when playing poker? Instead, shoot 4 shots at the dirt before addressing the target. That seasons the barrel for the round.
My old Mossberg bolt action always shot best with CCI Blazer ammo. At 50 yds. I always ended up with one ragged hole for a 5 shot group. The next best ammo, some expensive target ammo, would barely get a quarter sized group.
After a lot of research and videos and my own tests you might want to put a pressure pad under your barrel, free floated Ruger barrels are not consistent. I’ve sold my target model and bought the Ruger Performance Competition Model, it is free floated but it has two contact connections between stock and receiver. It also has a better chamber which makes better groups. By adding the pressure pad and torquing the one contact screw to 30 inch pounds your target model will do much better. Thanks for your testing. Luther
Just bought a Ruger Precision Rimfire in 22LR and it shoots about the same at 100 yards but still not what I expect out of a rifle touted as a “precision” with bull barrel . I get 3 to 5” groups at 100 yards with different ammo.
CCI Suppressor 45 grain ammo gives the best accuracy results for me. I'm not a 22lr fan in general. I prefer the 22 wmr. It's tremendously more useful. It can run 30 grain @ 2300, 40 @ 2000 & 45 grain WRF ammo for reduced loads when needed.
My 20 year old TC R55 Benchmark groups half that MOA @100 yards using Geco semi auto ammo...I hope my wife's target 10/22 is ok with Standards! Good video though, thanks
@@charlesbunting1790 They don't, I have been shooting CCI Stinger ever since they first were introduced to the market. I have also owned a Ruger 10 22 since 1964 I have shot everything .22LR in it never one problem. I don't like Stingers as much as I Like the CCI Velocitor 40 grain copper plated hollow point it's the fastest most accurate 40 grain hollow point on the market. Out of my Ruger Semi Auto Pistol, SA Revolver , 10 /22 Rifle .
I have never seen a 22 shoot mini mags that bad if that is a Ruger bull barrel there's seriously something wrong with that thing shoot a group that big. next time probably need to take a brush and run it through there between each loads, may have been getting some lead buildup.
Have you did any trigger work on your 10/22? If not, mine was over 5lbs pull. I filed on the sear and hammer, and got it down to 1.5lbs, just like my Marlin... It's an easy mod. Just make sure you do it a little at a time, then check it. I bet I put my trigger group back together 25 times, but it was worth it. Good trigger makes a big difference.
It's really not about which ammo groups the best, it's about which ammo groups the best out of "your" rifle. I've shot dime size groups out of my .22 and then a shit group with the same ammo out of a different rifle.
I have the same problem with minimag cphp the 40 gr cprn shoot much better, My favorite CCI is the AR 40gr cprn 1200 fps all of my semi auto guns love them
Yeah im going to be looking for similar velocities bullet weights and see if i can get event more accuracy out of it. Consider subscibing if you enjoy the content.
Yea, I subbed, bro. I just found out, that the speed of sound can actually vary a little, according to atmospheric conditions. Even temperature. Kinda strange...
I got a bunch of mini mags after hearing they work great in a henry 22 but they suck compared to some sub sonics I got. Since 22 is hard to find right now I'm thinking of selling the unshot remainder of them secondhand because the accuracy is so bad I may as well just throw pebbles at the target.
Affordable optics and rifle reviews Didn’t realize you was in Canada when I sent that. Would would love the TCR22 it’s a great gun and takes most 10/22 parts.
thats what i have heard as well id love to have peep sights! and an automatic hold open on empty mags, seems the TC mags are a bit of a nuisance to load tho
What do you have for a barrel on your 1022? If that is a match barrel I don't think you are suppose to shoot stingers through it. the casings on the stingers are longer.
Buy yourself a stock Marlin, bro. Your groups will shrink by a mile. My Marlin 881 bolt action is a bad ass!!! It's stock, except for I got my trigger down to 1.5lbs.
You are aware there's another type of CCI mini mag round, right? The 40 grain LRN version? The 36 grain HP mini mags have given me similar results as yours; not all that precise. While you're at it, you should also test out some other ammunition makes, such as Browning (the stuff I swear by), the Remington thunderbolt you mentioned, and possibly some federal (both the regukar federal brand high velocity and the American eagle hollow points). Would make for interesting comparison.
Yeah i iist realised today that there are 2 bullet weights fpr the minimags, and not to mention the Velocitors, with none of my local stores carried or were willing to order. Yes im definitly going to try the other brands like browning and the bulk brand comparison.
My Marlin 881 makes those groups look silly. My 10/22 is a joke too. Don't feel bad. I never shoot it. Unless I just wanna do some rapid fire drills. I put a cheap red dot on it. No need to waste a scope on it. lol
Not impressive results; I have a half dozen 22s, all shoo groups 1/2 the size of these or better, none are expensive guns. Must be the rifle or the shooter.
Im currently doing a review on my regular 1022 carbine, lol its downright horrible accuracy wise best i could do was 2.5" at 50m event after free floating the barrel (its better but still crap). Im going to borrow my friends 1022 carbine as well to have broader statistcs to base myself off of. Im really satisfied with the 1022 target though. Expensive but really nice in comparisson.
Affordable Optics and Rifle Reviews My 10/22 wasn’t accurate either so I sent it back to Ruger and they sent me a brand new one. The newer one is accurate.
Yea, I should do that. But, I just recently bought an LCR, and it's junk, too. Light primer strikes, about every 5 rounds. I'm just assuming that Ruger has dropped the ball, somewhere in quality control. A LOT OF PEOPLE are having issues with recent Ruger firearms, and the word is getting out. I personally, will NEVER buy another one. I wasted $650 on my last 2 Ruger purchases. There are plenty of other gun companies out there, that will be glad to take my money, and sell me reliable firearms. No sweat. I'm just done with Ruger. Period. They're gonna soon find out, that they won't make it long, on their "past" reputation. lol Both of those firearms now sit in the back of my gun case. They're too embarrassing to sell, or trade. lol
All barrels behave differently. I try everything considered quality ammo to narrow what a particular gun likes. For me, Wolf Match Target or SK Plus are tack drivers on my 10/22 Green Mountatn barrel precision build. Meanwhile, this ammo is just average in my other 10/22s. My shooting partner's 10/22 w/Kidd barrel likes the CCI Mini-Mags.
I’ve got an ammo comparison coming out at 100 yards.... 50 rounds at each 6” target. About 12 different ammo types. I also have a 50 year old Marlin with a $40 scope that out shoots my new Ruger Precision Rimfire in 22LR ..... really disappointed in Ruger.
In general compared to other video's same set-up same ammo's, groups are no where near as good,. I'm questioning the barrel, is it clean enough, is the rifling getting fowled with build up , 1/16 twist, could be not getting enough spin on the bullet that would account lost of accuracy. Something is going on here .
I shoot a marlin 60,, just your average stock Marlin & by comparison,, I'd throw the rifle you're using away, I've done enough of the same type testing & either it's your rifle,, or I have a jewel of a 22 ✌️
Thanks for this video bro. Im sighting my 10/22 in today and was wondering what the most accurate cci ammo is. Im getting ready to hunt some tree rats aka squrill. And i want to get head shots to save the meat.
@@EpikArms just got back from sighting mime in. I was normally going with the sub sonic hp but it wouldnt cycle it. I went with the stingers and been getting quarter size groups out at 50 yrds which is good enough from where im hunting in heavy woods and brush. A 75 yrd shot would be inpossable hahaha
Lol Hi Donna, the video was mean as a general representation for ammo preferences. But year those groups are.... okay...ish i sold that rifle and got the ruger rpr. Im working of the editing of the review as we speak. Curently able to shoot 1/2" group at 50m (proof or it didnt happen....) coming next week. Thanks for watching!
STOP! Clean your barrel when groups open up like that. It's not a fair test with a dirty bore. I have the same exact rifle and my groups are one ragged hole at 50 yards. That target barrel needs more attention than a stock 10/22.
@@JS-te4gz sounds like you need a bolt .223 and to reload if you don't already. i jsut sold my mossberg MVP and picked up a Tikka T3x varmint in .223 i can tell you it is a whole lot of fun to shoot. costing me about .25 cents a round (in canada) it may take a while to make to rounds but ill never buy ammo again.
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CCI Standard Velocity “Target” is all I shoot.. I have 4 22 lr firearms.. 1 rifle (Tippman Arms M4 Elite), and 3 handguns (Smith and Wesson Model 41 Performance Center) (Sig Sauer P322) Ruger Mark II Target 6” Stainless Bull Barrel)… All love this ammo and thankfully it’s also the least expensive CCI!!
I just sighted in my old single shot, heavy barrel Schultz & Larsen rifle with the 710fps... It shoots consistently two inch groups at 80 meters... 15 shots within 3 minutes, all within the two inch circle... Bolt action is the way to go 😉😉😉
Velocitors are my favorite. It actually gives you a little bit of recoil which is nice.
One of the best CCI rounds have shot bunny's out to 150yds out of my anchutz 1417 G and milk jugs at 250yds
The Velocitor is my favorite also it's the fastest most accurate 40 grain hollow point on the market. It hits hard penetrats deep leaves impressive wound cavity.
It really goes to show how you need to test several different kinds of ammunition in your specific rifle. Of all the ammunition that you tried in your Ruger 10/22, my heavy barreled Remington 597 does the best with the Standard velocity (with similar results to yours), followed by the Mini Mags at a very close second place. My 16” barrel HATED Stingers; I could barely get 10 rounds to stay on an 8.5x11” sheet of loose leaf paper at 50 yards. I was disappointed and happy at the same time: disappointed because I like the idea of the speed that the stingers offer, but happy that the mini mags did better because they are cheaper to buy than the stingers are. Haha.
If I’m doing a competition or plinking, I use the standard velocity, but when I hunt small game, I swap over to the mini mags. I keep both anyways because my Sig 1911.22 lr cycles mini mags better than the SV 😉👍🏼
Sweet shooting. I'm actually looking for a good accurate cci bullet. The more I look into them the more I see the Standard Velocity is the best.
Thanks, yeah so far it seem on top, it seems to like the heavier slow moving rounds, so im going to be testing what i can find in similar velocity with varying weights
cool. I'll be looking for more of your videos.
I found that I have to re-zero my sights for each different type of ammo. My favorite for all around accuracy and consistency is the CCI Mini Mag Copper Plated 40 gr round nose at 1235 fps. The faster rounds always shoot higher and faster doesn't always mean better. For example, like those crazy CCI Quik-Shok Ammunition 22 Long Rifle 32 Grain Plated Lead Hollow Points seem sexy but they you have to zero the gun just for them and they don't group that well. Just too hot.
Same my 10/22 will put 1/2 group at 50 yards with the mini mags all day long
Rossi RS.22lr just loves the mini mags 36gr/40gr
CCI Green tag gives me the best overall average groupings, compared to any other CCI ammo. This is from 5 very nice .22’s and weeks of testing.
I find the best grouping with my CZ 452 comes from subsonic rounds regardless of the manufacturer. It is true that different guns prefer different types of ammo; mine likes Winchester 40 grain subsonics the best. The problem with accuracy of high velocity rounds is caused by the transition of the bullet from supersonic to subsonic speed. I also find that cleaning the barrel infrequently is best to maintain a "lead lining" which seems to help.
I had similar experience with my CZ455 HB. Rifling is made for 40grains 1050fps. I suggest non coated bullets. This is the way...i tried 40kind of different ammo excluding them test after test at the range. Best ammo ever is Lapua Center X. Second best is CCI standard. I had decent results with ELEY sport.
Just subbed, bro... Keep up the good work. I like seeing regular guys, like me, doing tests on TH-cam.
Sort of off topic but I use CCI Green Tag with very pleasing results in my Ruger MK II slab side competition target pistol, (Volquartsen hammer and sear). From a rest it will shoot less than 1 inch all day at 20 metres. I consider that to be very good.
Dude I shoot my 10/22 standard Takedown barrel this good with Winchester 555 bulk ammo, Backwards, through a mirror. Just wanted to swing it with some of the other guys in this video thread. My range is only 25 yards, they're very strict on gun handling and I go through a whole bunch of shooting when I get there so honest results with tired fingers aren't realiable. I do know three things for sure. 1. You are showing what CCI ammo works well in your barrel and hopefully, a tried and trued barrel with plenty of rounds through it to ensure its all worn in well. 2. Even with bulk ammo, the majority of the center of my targets are worn out. Jeest ignore that one up by the carriage clamp, nobody was supposed to be looking then anyways, and all them other "flyers". 3. My STNKIN range is closing on October 16th, 2020. Died of friggin effects of Covid economy. At my local gunstore, they have the bulk ammo out on a skid for us plinkers. That good good CCI stuff, well everything but minimags, are behind the shelf with the other rifle rounds. I'm cheap, I admit it. But it's more accurate, fun and less work then my 22 caliber break barrel springer pellet gun.
Keep on shooting.
Oh, and that mirror shot, I was doing it between my legs too.
Results@15:49.
CCI standard for accuracy on all bolt action (great forcz455). Mini mags for all semiautos. Go on high speed only if you wanna use them for pest control. High speed will push your rifle away from accuracy, always.
my 22mag can do nickel sized groups at 50 or 75yrds with maxi mag +v. And would shot gun everything else i tried the slower the worse it seemed to like them.
Those groups are well within Ruger's accuracy standard. They wouldn't accept my Ruger American Rimfire back for service because my group size was within their standards. They weren't within mine. I am used to my Marlins and Savage.
So i sold my 1022 (the one in this video) and got the ruger rpr rimfire. Ive torqued the bolts to spec (result 4" groups at 100m) tried all kinds of .22lr ammo. .. i may need to send it back lol, wish i hadnt sold my 1022!
@@EpikArms I just went ahead and recrowned my barrel and got better groups. Still a challenge but it is better.
The representative that denied my return was female and sounded like a redhead. LOL.. If you get her try to talk to the supervisor.
My Ruger American compact shoots 16mm group at 50m. My cz455 Varmint does 15mm. Nothing wrong with Rugers!
Apparently the compact is better than the 22" model. I want to cut the barrel down about 3cm. A combination of barrel harmonics and the deceleration in the last couple inches.
Always dope your scope/rifle to the ammo being used. Dope one for stingers, other for mini mags, etc.
you should try them at 100 meters
and you should get the savage mark 2 with bull barrle grate vid man keep it up
Thanks, the 100m shoot has been filmed and is in editing it should be up in a week or so.
@@EpikArms that's grate u have a facebook and ill be sure to watch it
The CCI Green Tag is supposed to be their most accurate target ammo. Funny, it has the exact same specs as the Std Velocity but at 3X the price. I've tested them both and have seen zero difference. Ammo's under 1125 fps always seem to be much more accurate in my 10/22 with a 16.5" Kidd barrel. You can check out my comparisons on my channel.
hey, nice channel feel free to drop the link to your video here.
@@EpikArms Thanks man! Here's the Part 1 shootout. I'm editing Part 2 this week.
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Yeah I found out the "Quiet" don't run in semi auto's very well, at all...
No shi$. 710fps won't cycle most semi
I've had great results from the CCI Standard Velocity 40 grain. Tight groups at 50 yards and I've pushed them out to 200 yards, hitting a 6" steel plate, nine times, using a Savage Mk.2
21" heavy barrel.
I love the Savage Mark 2 published a review on them a few weeks ago, it grouped real nice. wish it was mine borrowed from a friend
Hi, I’m shooting CCI sv .22lr out of my cs 457 American. But I think most of the time the biller breaks the sound barrier. Do you know why?
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The CCI Standard 40gr. I like is pushing just under supersonic, 1070fps at the muzzle. What might happen is as the round nose pushes the air out of the way, the air may speed up as it passes over the profile, causing it to "crack" the sound barrier.
Lots of people swear by the standard velocity CCI's. I've never bought them. Sounds like I need to try them!
Yeah the 1022 generally like the 40 grain and at speeds around 1060, athough failure to eject are the tradof for accuracy. (Unless you lighten the bolt that is.
thats a good idea, it would most likely cycle the CCI SV a bit better
I shot some CCI Standards today, for the first time. They shot "slightly" better groups. But, nothing to brag about. Plus, I don't like the lower POI change with them. I'll stick to my Federal 550 bulk, and my CCI 36g. Mini Mags. They both hit the same POI. So, I practice with the Fed., and hunt with the Mini Mags.
Sub sonic out!
It's not reliable.
Standard is the best.
It is quiet.
Reliable.
and Accurate.
But less power comparing with high velocity.
though i dont find minimags to be nearly as accurate as SV, ive never seen anything even remotely close to as bad as that group. That thing really hates those MMs
if my pellet rifle shot like this at 75yards i would burn it
I found the best accuracy with those CCI Standard velocity rounds out of both a Marlin M60 and High Standard Supermatic Citation pistols. Marlin M60 was made by new Remington group but was still accurate as my older JM Marlin. I have a Ruger 10-22 but haven't tried them in it. Maybe that would be a good idea. That CCI standard velocity has beat everything else I've put thru my guns. Some other brands of "Match" ammo really was disappointing.
yeah ive noticed that with pretty much all of my .22LR rifles for target shooting they preffer the CCI standard velocity
Get the 17" Green Mountain or 17" FJ Fedderson barrels. A guy with a 77/22 shot Mini Mags and all hit on one hole.
I carry a Ruger 10/22 charger with a 10 inch barrel and my groups at that range with the mini mag are way tighter so odd.
Thanks for your video, informative and helpful.
Thanks for watching!
Ruger 10/22 "International" Sight - in, CCI 40g RN
next is the HP 36g, SV 40g rn, Aguila 40g RN. Finally Norma 40g RN.
F A M but you got to weigh them, 100 rounds a 1.1 grain difference from lightest to heaviest. Middle is 51.6 gn, these will land one on top of the other. Light ones hit low and to the right, the heavy ones hit hit and left.
This week I had similar results from my Ruger 10/22 with standard factory barrell, mini mags were all over the place in a random 10 inch group, then I switched to Stingers and was able to put all 10 rounds through a hole the size of a 2 euro coin. Multiple times over. I guess some rifles just like certain types of ammo. It's a shame though because over here in Ireland a box of 100 mini mags cost 15-17 Euro but stingers are roughly €15 for box of 50 rounds.
Its funny that people call shots they pull as a "flyer" lol. A flyer is a round that's off from the group due to an ammo problem, light charge, a bullet wight thats off or something like that.
For cci quiet you should've try "cci quiet 835 feet per second, 45 grain " , they work perfectly out of my ruger 10/22 ,22inch barrel
Take out the flyers? Do you also stack the deck when playing poker?
Instead, shoot 4 shots at the dirt before addressing the target. That seasons the barrel for the round.
Look forward to next video witg a clean rifle
Love 1022 , have 3 .. not for precision shooting . Cz 453 will do that for me.....
yeah i just bought the CZ mtr 457 match so far looking really good! thanks for watching
I shot a .001" group the other day, after taking out all of the "flyers". Damn, I'm good!!!! LOL
Yes, yes you are 😁
My old Mossberg bolt action always shot best with CCI Blazer ammo. At 50 yds. I always ended up with one ragged hole for a 5 shot group. The next best ammo, some expensive target ammo, would barely get a quarter sized group.
After a lot of research and videos and my own tests you might want to put a pressure pad under your barrel, free floated Ruger barrels are not consistent. I’ve sold my target model and bought the Ruger Performance Competition Model, it is free floated but it has two contact connections between stock and receiver. It also has a better chamber which makes better groups. By adding the pressure pad and torquing the one contact screw to 30 inch pounds your target model will do much better. Thanks for your testing.
Luther
I really not after tact accuracy and prefer reliability more, so I stick to cci mini mag. Good tests.
Just bought a Ruger Precision Rimfire in 22LR and it shoots about the same at 100 yards but still not what I expect out of a rifle touted as a “precision” with bull barrel . I get 3 to 5” groups at 100 yards with different ammo.
wow yeah 3-5" isnt great, also might need some breaking in
CCI Suppressor 45 grain ammo gives the best accuracy results for me. I'm not a 22lr fan in general. I prefer the 22 wmr. It's tremendously more useful. It can run 30 grain @ 2300, 40 @ 2000 & 45 grain WRF ammo for reduced loads when needed.
thanks for sharing!
My 20 year old TC R55 Benchmark groups half that MOA @100 yards using Geco semi auto ammo...I hope my wife's target 10/22 is ok with Standards! Good video though, thanks
thanks i appreciate it
...my wife's target Ruger also groups better than the Standards with the Geco...around 1.5" @100yards
... update - CCI AR Tactical are the best with my wife's 10/22 Target, she shot a one hole 5 group @100 yards...best group I've ever seen
... update - CCI AR Tactical are the best with my wife's 10/22 Target, she shot a one hole 5 group @100 yards...best group I've ever seen
You should have zeroed your scope for the CCI Stinger or Velocitor at 50 yards.
I didn't think Ruger recommended shootin them cci stingers in them 10 22s
@@charlesbunting1790 They don't, I have been shooting CCI Stinger ever since they first were introduced to the market. I have also owned a Ruger 10 22 since 1964 I have shot everything .22LR in it never one problem. I don't like Stingers as much as I Like the CCI Velocitor 40 grain copper plated hollow point it's the fastest most accurate 40 grain hollow point on the market. Out of my Ruger Semi Auto Pistol, SA Revolver , 10 /22 Rifle .
I have never seen a 22 shoot mini mags that bad if that is a Ruger bull barrel there's seriously something wrong with that thing shoot a group that big. next time probably need to take a brush and run it through there between each loads, may have been getting some lead buildup.
Velocitor is my favorite cci for semi auto pistols
nice video but your not doing cci any favors with what appears to be a RARE 10/22 lemon.
HI Rick thanks for the Feedback, I wasnt doing this for anyone. this video isnt sponsored.
10/22s are probably the least accurate 22 out there
Have you did any trigger work on your 10/22? If not, mine was over 5lbs pull. I filed on the sear and hammer, and got it down to 1.5lbs, just like my Marlin... It's an easy mod. Just make sure you do it a little at a time, then check it. I bet I put my trigger group back together 25 times, but it was worth it. Good trigger makes a big difference.
The Target 10/22 has a 3.5lb trigger from the factory, the standard 10/22 are 5-7lbs
I get a tight group with the standard barrel using the cci 36 grain
Segmented is fast and dumps all energy in your target, does not pass through as often as other bullets.
I’m about to test a load of CCI’s too. Let’s see if I get the same results. Great review.
Thanks Paul, update with your test results
thanks!
No problem!
The scope is moving.
The thread of the scope is loosened out.
Apply some blue Locktite on the thread.
It's really not about which ammo groups the best, it's about which ammo groups the best out of "your" rifle. I've shot dime size groups out of my .22 and then a shit group with the same ammo out of a different rifle.
quite true that is, although most Ruger 10-22 prefer CCI standard Velocity or something around the same speed
I know this is 4 years old but 10/22s are known for not having great accuracy :D
Exactly
I have the same problem with minimag cphp the 40 gr cprn shoot much better, My favorite CCI is the AR 40gr cprn 1200 fps all of my semi auto guns love them
Those standard velocity are subsonic, also. According to Wikipedia, the speed of sound is 1,126fps...
Yeah im going to be looking for similar velocities bullet weights and see if i can get event more accuracy out of it.
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Yea, I subbed, bro. I just found out, that the speed of sound can actually vary a little, according to atmospheric conditions. Even temperature. Kinda strange...
@sea level.
I got a bunch of mini mags after hearing they work great in a henry 22 but they suck compared to some sub sonics I got. Since 22 is hard to find right now I'm thinking of selling the unshot remainder of them secondhand because the accuracy is so bad I may as well just throw pebbles at the target.
I compeltely agree i have never had a rifle that shoots the minimags well
get aquila if you can. I got a 10/22 and a mp 15-22. they both eat anything but Remington. I did like the aquila very much. zero problems.
Around 5:53 of video the scope was deffinatly loose you can see it move
Ill check the raw footage expanded (i can't tell on my phone)
Yep scope moved under recoil
You should try out the Tcr22 from Thompson Center.
I would love to get my hands on one of those!
Affordable optics and rifle reviews Didn’t realize you was in Canada when I sent that. Would would love the TCR22 it’s a great gun and takes most 10/22 parts.
thats what i have heard as well id love to have peep sights! and an automatic hold open on empty mags, seems the TC mags are a bit of a nuisance to load tho
The sights are great been ringing steel at 100 yards with it. The T/C mags ain’t to bad to to load just a bit different.
All subs and even Fiocchi subs at 933 Festival cycle flawlessly on my takedown10 22
Supersonic 22lr is not good for groups past 50 yards, once their velocity dips below the speed of sound they destabilise
A sub sonic bullet never goes above the speed of sound
@@garywoodlief1976 He isn't talking about sub sonic.
What do you have for a barrel on your 1022? If that is a match barrel I don't think you are suppose to shoot stingers through it. the casings on the stingers are longer.
Yeah its the factory match barrel. I'm aware I'm not supposed to. Gotta do it for the review!
First Ruger I’ve seen that didnt like MINIMAGs! Blazers were a surprise.
My MKII does better with MINIMAGs, sub 1/2” groups of 10 at 50 yards.
Buy yourself a stock Marlin, bro. Your groups will shrink by a mile. My Marlin 881 bolt action is a bad ass!!! It's stock, except for I got my trigger down to 1.5lbs.
You are aware there's another type of CCI mini mag round, right? The 40 grain LRN version? The 36 grain HP mini mags have given me similar results as yours; not all that precise.
While you're at it, you should also test out some other ammunition makes, such as Browning (the stuff I swear by), the Remington thunderbolt you mentioned, and possibly some federal (both the regukar federal brand high velocity and the American eagle hollow points). Would make for interesting comparison.
Yeah i iist realised today that there are 2 bullet weights fpr the minimags, and not to mention the Velocitors, with none of my local stores carried or were willing to order. Yes im definitly going to try the other brands like browning and the bulk brand comparison.
@@EpikArms I've got an unopened box of velocities rounds that has been sitting in the safe for years lol.
It's not the ammo, it's the shooter.
Ok
@12:05 you drew a face with bullet holes haha
What about the cci blazer ? I've seen that they shoot pretty good.
yeah i overlooked them when i did this video
My Marlin 881 makes those groups look silly. My 10/22 is a joke too. Don't feel bad. I never shoot it. Unless I just wanna do some rapid fire drills. I put a cheap red dot on it. No need to waste a scope on it. lol
The very best CCI bullet is the AR Tactical.
On a good day my 10-22T will give my Anschutz a run for its money.
try some CCI, green tag
Not impressive results; I have a half dozen 22s, all shoo groups 1/2 the size of these or better, none are expensive guns. Must be the rifle or the shooter.
Every different amo will hits different spot. Best use only the same all the time.
I have ruger.22 long range and it doesn’t like any CCi ammunition
My brand new carbine 10/22 is junk, too. Not very accurate, and won't cycle anything except CCI. My Marlins blow it away...
Im currently doing a review on my regular 1022 carbine, lol its downright horrible accuracy wise best i could do was 2.5" at 50m event after free floating the barrel (its better but still crap). Im going to borrow my friends 1022 carbine as well to have broader statistcs to base myself off of. Im really satisfied with the 1022 target though. Expensive but really nice in comparisson.
Affordable Optics and Rifle Reviews My 10/22 wasn’t accurate either so I sent it back to Ruger and they sent me a brand new one. The newer one is accurate.
Yea, I should do that. But, I just recently bought an LCR, and it's junk, too. Light primer strikes, about every 5 rounds. I'm just assuming that Ruger has dropped the ball, somewhere in quality control. A LOT OF PEOPLE are having issues with recent Ruger firearms, and the word is getting out. I personally, will NEVER buy another one. I wasted $650 on my last 2 Ruger purchases. There are plenty of other gun companies out there, that will be glad to take my money, and sell me reliable firearms. No sweat. I'm just done with Ruger. Period. They're gonna soon find out, that they won't make it long, on their "past" reputation. lol Both of those firearms now sit in the back of my gun case. They're too embarrassing to sell, or trade. lol
All barrels behave differently. I try everything considered quality ammo to narrow what a particular gun likes. For me, Wolf Match Target or SK Plus are tack drivers on my 10/22 Green Mountatn barrel precision build. Meanwhile, this ammo is just average in my other 10/22s. My shooting partner's 10/22 w/Kidd barrel likes the CCI Mini-Mags.
Is that big bull barrel heating up? It looks like your flyers start after firing several rounds.
The barrel gets luke warm but not hot, posibly you are right. Ill do further tests
I’ve got an ammo comparison coming out at 100 yards.... 50 rounds at each 6” target. About 12 different ammo types. I also have a 50 year old Marlin with a $40 scope that out shoots my new Ruger Precision Rimfire in 22LR ..... really disappointed in Ruger.
Have you done any ammo comparisons at 100 meters ?
You need to update your CCI .22 ammo list. They have a 40gr. 1470 fps at the top of the list.
Lead 40 grain only.
What scope and magnification? You should be able to get better groups at 5o yards.
Vortex diamondback hp 4-16x42
If accuracy is what you're looking for, don't shoot copper plated or washed ammo from a 22 Lr.
I get far better groups with CCI 36 grain cphp out of my Henry H001 lever gun at 100 yrs. Approximately 2.5 inch and I have tremors in both hands.
Scoped or iron sights?
You may have said so in the video, but which Mini Mags are you shooting? The 40g round nose, or the 36g HP?
These were the 36 grain.
7:30 seconds
Avoid dry firing a rimfire
with modern rimfires it not an issue, more so with older ones
I have never owned a 22 that shot that bad
thanks for the feedback
In general compared to other video's same set-up same ammo's, groups are no where near as good,. I'm questioning the barrel, is it clean enough, is the rifling getting fowled with build up , 1/16 twist, could be not getting enough spin on the bullet that would account lost of accuracy. Something is going on here .
Get some CCI Green Tag Competition ammo and you will be surprised, not cheap but definitely the best CCI sells.
I had actually bought some for the 100M accuracy video, they were pretty much the same as the CCI standard velocity .
..you don't want to shoot stingers through the target barrel, the tolerance is too tight and could damage the chamber.
..if you haven't tried them, CCI tactical seem to be the most accurate so far, and at 1200fps they cycle without issue
I shoot a marlin 60,, just your average stock Marlin & by comparison,, I'd throw the rifle you're using away, I've done enough of the same type testing & either it's your rifle,, or I have a jewel of a 22 ✌️
velociters???
Read your book that came with your factory target stingers not recommended for your gun
Thanks for this video bro. Im sighting my 10/22 in today and was wondering what the most accurate cci ammo is. Im getting ready to hunt some tree rats aka squrill.
And i want to get head shots to save the meat.
yep generally its going to love cci standard velocity. otherwise buy a variety pack of the the fancy stuff like eley, and find out what it preffers
@@EpikArms just got back from sighting mime in. I was normally going with the sub sonic hp but it wouldnt cycle it. I went with the stingers and been getting quarter size groups out at 50 yrds which is good enough from where im hunting in heavy woods and brush. A 75 yrd shot would be inpossable hahaha
Man, Go out and buy a MARLIN Model-925. That damn Ruger don’t like any ammo.
Lol Hi Donna, the video was mean as a general representation for ammo preferences. But year those groups are.... okay...ish i sold that rifle and got the ruger rpr. Im working of the editing of the review as we speak. Curently able to shoot 1/2" group at 50m (proof or it didnt happen....) coming next week. Thanks for watching!
Did you install any parts to it or is it all Ruger ?
this one is all stock ruger, no upgrades
I think buying a shotgun is a good idea for that groups
if you wanted to use a 22lr semi auto for accuracy the 10-22 is not the rifle the Marlin Model 60 will flat out shot a 10-22 !
Yeah we reviewed the model 60 a few months back i preffered the cz mtr 457. Although greatly different price brackets
STOP! Clean your barrel when groups open up like that. It's not a fair test with a dirty bore. I have the same exact rifle and my groups are one ragged hole at 50 yards. That target barrel needs more attention than a stock 10/22.
The barrel was cleaned before every different brand of cci.
It doesn't matter what 22 I use just take a 50 round box dump it down the 870 Remington with some 00 buck wow it makes a mess of shit!!!
Lol im sure it would!
How is target shooting with a 22 fun?
once you get a target 22LR that where the fun starts!. im looking at getting another target 22LR bolt action this time
@@EpikArms I know.... I've shot some but I miss the kick and noise of the bigger rifles but paying a few dollars a round isn't my idea of fun either😂
@@JS-te4gz sounds like you need a bolt .223 and to reload if you don't already. i jsut sold my mossberg MVP and picked up a Tikka T3x varmint in .223 i can tell you it is a whole lot of fun to shoot. costing me about .25 cents a round (in canada) it may take a while to make to rounds but ill never buy ammo again.
@@EpikArms Nice! I didn't know you were Canadain.....I'm near Niagara falls Ontario
@@JS-te4gz yeah i'm near Cornwall Ontario,