WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Day 8 - On The Stand - Dr. John Black - Use Of Force Expert Part 3
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- Live Coverage: WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse - Kenosha Shooting
Happening in Court:
Dr. John Black - Use Of Force Expert
Ofc. Brittni Bray - Kenosha PD
Drew Hernandez - News Commentator - Reported On Unrest
Dr. John Black - Use Of Force Expert
REMINDER of the judge's ruling in defense use of force expert testimony: Schroeder told the attorneys that Black wouldn’t be allowed to testify about what Rittenhouse was thinking when he pulled the trigger or whether he definitively acted in self-defense.
Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger said if Schroeder allowed Black to testify only about the timeline of events that night he wouldn’t call his own expert to the stand. Defense attorney Mark Richards agreed to the deal.
Charges:
1. First Degree Reckless Homicide, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Joseph Rosenbaum)
2. First Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Richard
McGinnis, reporter for Daily Caller, not injured but near Rosenbaum when Rittenhoue
fired)
3. First Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety, Use of a Deadly Weapon (unknown male)
4. First Degree Intentional Homicide, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Anthony Huber)
5. Attempt First Degree Intentional Homicide, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Gaige
Grosskreutz)
6. Possession of a Dangerous Weapon by a Person under the Age of 18
7. DISMISSED AT THE END OF STATE”S CASE. Prosecution failed to put evidence in front of the jury that there was a lawful curfew in place (appears to be an oversight by prosecution) Defense moved to dismiss, judge agreed. Fail to Comply with Order of Local Government - Emergency Management Activity (citation, carries no penalty) - everyone present was breaking the 7pm curfew issued by the sheriff.
Possible Sentence: Max: Life in Prison Without Parole (WI does not have the DP)
JURY CHOSEN IN ONE DAY. 20 jurors have been selected in WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse. 9 men and 11 women. (8 are alternates)
Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum, 26, and Anthony Huber, 26, and injured Gaige Grosskreutz, 27. Prosecutors say that Rittenhouse, then 17 and from Illinois, was a vigilante looking for a fight. He, like other right-wingers, went to Kenosha, Wisconsin ostensibly to protect property. This happened as protests over police shooting local man Jacob Blake turned violent. Rittenhouse’s attorneys assert he was acting in self-defense. This case became a cause célèbre among conservatives.
Prosecutors have struggled in court, failing to introduce evidence of prior aggressive behavior. This included evidence showing him attacking a woman who was in an altercation with his sister. The other is that he was closely linked to the violent, far-right Proud Boys organization.
Kenosha County Judge Bruce Schroeder said an appellate court would reverse him if he allowed these in trial. The evidence was too prejudicial, he said. He left it up in the air whether he would allow footage showing someone identified as Rittenhouse discussing a Black man exiting a CVS pharmacy. Rittenhouse believed the man was shoplifting.
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The prosecutor is an absolute pro at making pointless points about nothing. I've never seen anything like it.
Lol!
He’s a sneaky little weasel.
So after you recorded the video, you decided to stop to take a breath? Did you consider that there might be less oxygen and more CO2 in the air from fires? Were you aware that other people were breathing the toxic gasses as well? Why didn't you tell them to stop breathing?
@@CommandingElbow Can’t remember if that’s a joke or he actually said that
"You jumped to a conclusion, but that's not what journalists do." Apparently the prosecutor hasn't turned on the television in several years.
I'll never get used to the word "tweet" being used in any kind of serious conversation.
He thinks asking for a lawyer means you're automatically guilty of something?
Where does it say that in our constitution?
@Riccardo Agualusa That is very edgy and racy, Riccardo. Thanks for sharing!
@Super Genius Yeah he knows he has no case proving it wasn't self defense, so he's doing whatever he can to smear Kyle to generate doubt in the jury.
He brought it up because the guy’d lawyer is from the same law firm as the defense. Still, a very pathetic attempt by the state.
Happens everyday…
@Riccardo Agualusa you must have meant leftist scum
Drew is freaking awesome. You have a new fan.
Defo.
I do like this Drew Hernandez chap.
Going to check out his videos.
The lawyer says that journalists and reporters don't voice opinions.
Has he watched some of the networks, commenting on the trial, recently?
No %@€✓ing $h!t
This prosecutor is SUCH a snarky douché nozel.
You got that right
But a duche actually serves a purpose unlike this POS
Little finger is a mess.
If i was on trial i would preface every mention of the killing as 'mostly peaceful'
Is so entertaining watching this prosecutor grasping at straws and flailing in the wind in his desperate attempt to make mountains, not out of mole hills, but literally out of absolutely nothing.
Never underestimate the imagination of a leftist.
The prosecuting attorney personifies smarmy lawyer.
Jesus that prosecuter is cringe.
He's cringe?! Not the guy on the stand?
@@AllAboutElle Yes.
@@AllAboutElle Can you tell me what it is that Drew Hernandez tweeted?
Be as specific as you can.
What "opinion" did Drew Hernandez utter about Joseph Rosenbaum... do it.
find the quote ;)
"Is it your practice as a journalist to interject your personal opinion into the story you're reporting on?" Hahaha...Welcome to journalism since the birth of the 24-hour news cycle, Mr. Binger.
"no its not, but funny enough i get asked that by ALL the new guys, i guess they get from all the ones on tv"
Go read an article on yahoo, on cnn.... all it is anymore is opinion.
@@blue84freak those aren’t usually original source reporting anyway. Yahoo and cnn are your best examples? lol …says more about you tbh ❄️🐑❄️🐑❄️
@@korbendallas7181 I think you missed my point entirely. They're sitting there accusing this guy of not being a journalist or media member simply because he offered an opinion on a story.... Umm, that's pretty much all the media and journalists do anymore is give their opinion on the story. It's extremely rare anymore to read a news story and not find bias in the reporting, to not find the writer giving their opinion. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's subtle, but it's usually there. So what's the point in attacking this guy? The fact that you're calling me a snowflake/sheep makes it apparent that you read my comment incorrectly. You pretty much read it the opposite way it was intended lol.
Anyways, yes, yahoo and cnn are great examples. Their "stories" are filled with opinion. Heck, you can see the writer's opinion in the headline alone. Their journalists don't just report the unbiased news. They give their opinion every time. And cnn and yahoo... they are two of the largest outlets, so yeah, they are valid examples. I don't place very much value in anything I see on their websites though.
I’m not a lawyer, but it seems like this prosecutor’s prosecution seems to rely heavily on abstract possibilities.
God bless your courage. Glory to God
The more I watch DA Binger, the less I like him. The word unctuous comes to mind to describe him. I'd be surprised if he won more than 50% of his cases.
The M.O. is to overcharge and get people to plead.
Well four of those letters come to mind to describe him.
After watching this douche canoe on the stand that's the conclusion you came to about the attorney? Weird. Also, it's more than 50%, so...
@@AllAboutElle Did you find the vital quote about Joseph Rosenbaum that supposedly made Drew Hernandez's actions prior to finding this out about Joseph Rosenbaum not trustworthy even though he merely supplied the court with visual and audio evidence?
Why is Binger trying to make the messenger seem bad when it has 0% impact on the Evidence?
@Super Genius Totally agree
Anyone notice Binger and a weasel look quite similar?
Yep.and he will need a hole to burro when this is over.
😂😂😂
He looks like little finger from GOT
Binger says “that’s not what journalist do”….what world does he live in, they ALL give their opinion now!
Like just about every journalist does on Twitter almost every day.
The prosecutor is a crook. A simple hack
Seems like he's campaigning for a higher position in the county.
Great publicity for Drew Hernandez. Ty Mr bendover
God bless you for your courage
the corruption of the prosecutor being exposed in this trial it would be worthwhile to review other cases he's been involved in. How many cases has he impacted with witness tampering?
Good point
Prosecutor is a total turd.
The prosecution examination seemed like pointless meandering that seemed to attack the witness instead of trying to extract information about the night on question that have to do with the case.
"You inserted your opinion into the story, that's not what journalists do."
Bro, do you watch the news?
NGL that part got me good.
That’s not what real journalists do.
Yea, you are talking about FOX right? 🙄
@@racharina as well as CNN, and NBC
@@300zxdriver Real journalism died 270 years ago
Yes journalists do jump to conclusions all the time, look at the main stream media today
Mainstream media does not contain journalism. Thats news and it is the polar opposite of journalism.
Apparently. But ut would be hard to spot a journalist these days, they geberalky print opinion pieces purporting to be news.
@@Telcontar1962
Plenty journalism and journalists about. Just none on or in TV or broadcast media. I dont expect US folk to get this, I mean you still think socialism is evil despite using socialist enterprise to organise your Police, Fire and education services.
@@martinvalentine9228 what US folk believe or do not believe us up to them. I on the other hand have a very close experience with and a long understanding of Socialism and it is as corrosive and disgusting a political ideology as has been devised by man.
Its interesting you cite the public services you do.
Crassus made the fire services a political weapon which I admit Socialist haven't quite weaponised against the people it's meant to serve (yet) but the other two "services" have been destroyed by Socialism in the post war period.
Regard and trust for both are at an all time low and falling fast. Its not just a US phenomenon.
@@Telcontar1962 I think you seem to be confusing Governance using socialist practice and communism. You cannot govern any group large group of people without using socialist practice. Socialist govs have been the 2 most successful economies in the world for the last 40yrs. So socialism seems to be better at capitalism than the major capitalists who would have crashed and burned by now if it wasn't for the regular socialist bailouts the capitalist system requires to prevent its collapse.
@20:03. Defense: "Objection, argumentative." Judge: "I'm not sure where this is headed." Guy on the stand scoffs. Prosecutor heads back to his seat with his tail between his legs.
This dude is a pro and an expert at not getting caught up in the question. KR also is an expert witness. They have extreme emotional regulation. Everyone is using Kyle I think because he looks so young, like school age young.
"jump to conclusion"... "apparently, the prosecution has never watched CNN or MSNBC.
Leftists don’t care if they’re hypocrites. The ends justify the means and the truth only matters if helps them reach that end.
Im starting to think they shouldn't have charged Mr Rittenhouse 🤔
20:25 "but that's not what journalists do, right?" he's living in a dream world 😂
Prosecutors strategy:
1. Condescend to everyone that’s not himself.
2. Tell people that he knows how they feel/think better than they do.
3. Have an expedient relationship with the truth.
4. Display a high sense of entitlement.
The Prosecutor is literally a clown. He should be embarrassed.
Prosecutor is very unlikable.
I think its his stark resemblance to the weasel that seem to repulse people.
"- You didn't forget to wash the car honey?
"- You would agree that Kevin can't be out later than 9 p.m, right?
"- Honey, if you could please let me finish my question before answering and I will do my best to let you finish your answer before I go on to the next question, fair?"
'Find Smiles Inside' Power move there!
Journalists don't add opinions in their reporting?…. What news does this DA listen to?
They have for the last 25+ years. 😂😂😂
its not an opinion if you already agree with the news, its just automatically becomes "fact" for you
CNN is what he watches
@@kingjesuseser1384 Yup, they call it a confirmation bias.
*Binger acts more like a defense lawyer than a prosecutor. "So you call yourself a journalist do you?" I feel like I'm watching an episode of the Twilight Zone.* 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣😂🤣
Or as a lawyer in civil case.
@@interestedobserver587 He goes after every witness who simply states facts that are backed up with video from multiple angles and sources. 😂😂
Not saying I agree with him or anything, but I feel like he KNOWS he was handed a s**t case and is just grasping at whatever he can to get it over with as soon as possible.
@@zeratul3k Cities aren't supposed to waste taxpayer dollars unless they can actually win the case though. Beyond a reasonable doubt my asse. 😂😂😂
@@zeratul3k Why the heII do you press charges if you cant possibly win a conviction? 🤣🤣🤣
If Binger married Debra Winger their children would be Winger-Binger
This Judge has just about had enough of this goofy beta male Prosecutor
Beta male 😂 gtfo, he is slimey as they come though.
give him a break, his wife's boyfriend got mad at him that day when he forgot to make his lunch so he's a little shaken up
This prosecutor looks like Gary Oldman except Gary is much nicer fella. Smug prosecutor. This young man should walk. 🇬🇧
@@currahee she was probably upset he didn't clean her up properly after her boyfriend "finished " .
😂😂
Drew Hernandez is a OG
Binger could not sell five dollar bills for a quarter
He’d scold you for both being cheap for not offering to pay $10 for each and greedy for wanting to buy them in the first place.
The prosecutor looks like he gets dressed in the morning by somebody else
Now that’s funny!
Thomas Binger is totally a cringer.
@3:56 Might somebody familiar with Chaucer post the Judge's excerpt from Chaucer? I can't quite understand because of my unfamiliarity with it and the rapidity of the elocution.
Thanks in advance!
This prosecutor has to be the most unlikeable person I have seen in a long time. He sounds arrogant and condescending even when he is addressing the judge. Also please someone tell him how to pronounce "roof" he keeps saying "ruf"
He's gross.
He's an annoying weaselly person.
So glad about the verdict.
Just hope Nadler can't prosecute him federally.
why did this even get to trial?
The prosecutor looks like that game of thrones character who was running the brothel. I can not remember his name.
Little finger!
@@pungentzeus 😂🙃😂yes thank u.
He sure does.
Littlebinger
To me he looks like Justin Hammer From Iron Man 2 attempting to look like he knows what is going on during the trial of Tony Stark. I just want somebody who looks like Tony Stark stand up and say you can't have my guns.
Binger reminds me of Aidan Gillen in peaky blinders
When he says “define support” who else is thinking of legally blonde???? “Define affair”… 😂
That depends on what the definition of is... is.
This ADA seems to be asking frivolous types of questions. Does he have a direction that I am not seeing? Any ideas?
Sorry but he has no questions pertinent to the case , in fact I'm surprised he didn't ask each of the witnesses on stand what kind of pizza topping they like.
"that'll take some time,?" "i can do it instantaneously" "nevermind im good ..." lol
Exactly how I'd expect an expert to answer that question.
15:35 hahaha That scared the crap out of me
This prosecution needs to hold back all the hair jell 🤣🤣🤣
"No I said apparently" What does that mean? This is what happens when one gets their defence team from ALDI
I like how the prosecution is so bad that people keep thinking it is the defense.
@glyn hodges because its such a s***show I'm not even going to edit it😆
The prosecuting attorney reminds me of Russell from Monsters Inc.
I don't believe their was intent to kill. Kyle had good intentions to help people but a group of rioters are hard to control or help. He could have left his legal firearm at home but he would probably be dead if he did. Give the kid a class 2 weapon charge and call it a day. Everyone in this situation made dumb choices and with dumb choices comes repercussions. The city should have done a better job containing the situation and this situation would have never happened.
Completely agree. It's crazy how people are against the self defense narrative, they constantly say the same thing "Watch the videos!" I have watched multiple videos, and the main catalyst of this entire situation was Kyle putting out a dumpster fire. You can even see Rosenpedo threaten to kill Kyle and any others of his group on video after he put out the fire. When politics and agendas are treated as "Sports Teams" the main problems will never end. "Hey you may be right, but my team is gonna win, just you wait." That should not be the mentality in any civil/public situation.
Besides the people who got shot by kyle, who else got shot that night ?
@@siemenscs Why does that matter in the case of Kyle's self defense?
The police let him walk by with a rifle. At that point I'm assuming all self defense is on the table.
If me and three other people rush someone in a riot zone with cruel intentions and they have an AR-15 I'm gonna assume I'm gonna get shot. Especially if this is a young kid who might not fully grasp the situation he is in
Mr. Binger acts like a prosecutor who is used to doing trials that he can bully the defendant and/or the defendants council.
That zoom in at the end creepy af
This prosecutor is shady
Will someone who is an actual trial attorney comment on the prosecution? are they any doing good or bad professionally
There are many expert trial attorneys that have weighed in and they are nearly unanimous in their conclusions that the the prosecution has been laughably bad.
I come from a family of law school graduates and I can honestly say they suck a giant 10 incher... but, to be fair, they're doing the best they can with a complete loser of a case. The greatest lawyer in the world would be hard pressed to make any decent arguments with so little to work with.
@@bink *apparently* you may be right😂
somebody needs to get a better camera to record this. i feel like this happen in 2005 with this cemera
This prosecutor should be disbarred.
Judge is the real Chad 😎
The states attorney needs to give big boy statue his hair back
I believe there is a high probability that the prosecutor WAS ONE OF THE RIOTERS.
I would not be surprised in the least. He's a dim afterall.
The lead prosecutor looks like he would be more suited to be in a Progressive Insurance commercial as Jamie's assistant, he hasnt even worked his way up to reporting to Flo yet.
"YOU TWEETED!"
Bruh he is not a BIRD
If ever I have to face the bench I want my judge to be Frank from Everybody Loves Raymond.
Holy crap!
My question is very simple, can you just answer with a yes or a no instead of making me look bad? yes or no
The prosecutor looks like Ned Flanders.
this prosecutor is guna b workin at chucky cheese next month u watch lol
the video image is too poor, you need to fix it more
“I’m a good guy, take the tissue. Vote him guilty”
Is it possible to put binger on trial for purgery????
Purgery? Lol
That poor DA must be the real live Maxwell Smart.
Nothing in common with kyle. Missed me by that much
You call yourself a journalist ? Yes , and you call yourself a lawyer ?
This is on par with a Darrell Brooks cross.
"Apparently"
Prosecutor is Lionel hutz.
Binger (not just him) gets offended when people say “rioters” instead of protestors…so if they aren’t “rioters”, what are they? What do these offended people consider rioters? What actions have to be done to be considered rioters? I don’t understand it. I’ve asked this question before but no-one will give me an answer. As soon as the conversation gets to the point where they are offended by my question, it never goes any further than that. I seriously want to know.
For the people convinced that the judge was biased, you need the context.
The prosecution repeatedly borders on either witness tampering or including evidence that had been disallowed at certain points. Also, he insists on attacking witnesses’ state of mind, opinions, or beliefs instead of focusing on the events of the case; which is somewhat allowed in court to demonstrate a bias, but the judge warns him several times about how he’s going about it.
My point is, it’s the judge’s job to keep both the prosecutor and the defense playing inside the boundaries of cross examination and following legality. So when he gets angry it’s because the defense disregards a ruling, or is pretending to not understand that he’s outside the boundaries.
It’s pretty expected court standards if you don’t follow the rules of the court.
So whos d use of force expert?
Jedi mind tricks
The witness Hernandez is obviously bias towards the defendant. Prosecutor is doing his job to expose that bias to the jury.
15:35 lol this guy is for sure not from this planet
Between the states witness admitting it was self defense and Little Binger's attacks... the state is just throwing the case
I mean it’s pretty clearly self defense. They should have gone for lesser charges if they wanted to convict
Apparently
Surely the prosecution is larping now, it's the only reason he's so bad
Most judges aren't so biased...MISTRIAL.
You misspelled based
Video & sound Quality sucks
Kyle is going to be one rich kid. I am sure his lawyers are quieing up defamation lawsuits against left wing news organizations and outspoken personalities. Adding to his case is the fact that he was defamed as a minor.
Rittenhouse may able to avoid criminal liability, but he will not be able to avoid civil liability.
@@HillbillyRednecking sure he can if he wins it would mean his self-defence argument won. You can't get sued civilly for defending yourself.
Defamation is only for public figures. Not a regular kid
@@stardu5t796 criminal and civil are two different things. OJ won his criminal trail but still got sued civially
@@jeremy745 then why did CNN give 250 mil to that kid about 2 3 years ago, about whom they lied that he mocked and said bad stuff to a native when he was on a school trip? How do you define public figure? Somebody with followers on facebook? Makes no sense anyway. You publicly defame me, i sue you. Simple as that.
Littlefinger in a suit
When the amateur TH-cam guy is sharper than your prosecutor...hmmm... you're not doing too well.
They got nothing. Bingers is doing a good job fumbling for nothing.
This pathetic prosecutor should be disbarred for violating his oath and his unconstitutional questioning! Despicable!
Culpability that's the question! A young man feels like he needs to defend a community. Why because a mayor, police department, or the governor, failed their responsibilities. Culpability! I see there's only one man on trial. that's America for you!!!
This prosecutor is desperate. What kind of question is "thats not what jornalists do, right?".
When Drew was cracking up with the dude what news do you have
Take control over your courtroom, judge. That prosecutor acts like he runs the show.
around 18:10 "when that person on the ruff" is he a dog or something?
But that is what journalists do nowadays. Do you ever watch the news
The prosecution is so dirty