Boos during English anthem ‘disgraceful’ and ‘childish’
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- The booing of God Save The King by Irish fans has been described by one loyalist as “disrespectful” and “classless”.
Ireland lost 2-0 to England in the Nations League opener on Saturday, with Taoiseach Simon Harris and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in attendance.
Thousands of people in the crowd could be heard booing the English anthem God Save the King when it was played ahead of the match.
On Newstalk Breakfast, loyalist organiser Moore Holmes said he thought the booing gave people in his community an insight into how people in the Republic view the United Kingdom.
“It’s not so much that I’m not happy,” he said.
“I just think it is a demonstration of people’s attitudes south of the border.
“I think when you look at what happened at the Aviva Stadium, 50,000 or so Irish fans booing and jeering your British neighbours’ sacred song, I don’t think that’s a good look for Irish fans.”
When presenter Shane Coleman - who was at the match - disputed his claim that 50,000 people had booed the anthem, Mr Holmes said the exact number was not important.
“Regardless of the finite detail of how many people did it, it was classless, churlish and it was a demonstration of disrespect from Irish people to their British neighbours,” he said.
“Listen, I love footballing and sporting rivalry and I think that’s great but I do think it does tell us about people’s mindsets and attitudes; about how people view any vestige of British identity and culture.”
When it was put to him that the Irish anthem would likely be booed by Northern Ireland fans at Windsor Park, Mr Holmes described it as an “interesting point”.
“What I would say is that any booing of a national anthem, I think, is disrespectful,” he said.
“I think we all have our cultural components; we all have things that are dear to us and I think it’s important to foster a culture of respect regardless of what those things are.”
Mr Holmes described the British National Anthem as something that is “dear to me” and said that some Irish people need to focus less on the past.
"Some people, I think, south of the border are trapped in what I would class as a victimhood mindset, where they believe themselves to be the most oppressed people who have ever lived,” he said.
“They’re obsessed with summoning the ghosts of the past - this isn’t 1916 anymore.
“The Republic of Ireland has had independence for 75 years and a Free State for over 100 years.
“Most people alive within the Republic will not have been oppressed by the British State.”
Simon Harris has previously described the booing of the British National Anthem as “embarrassing and idiotic”.
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The sooner the Reunification of Ireland happens, the sooner we can all move on and forward.
An open wound festering away.
The African Republic of Ireland- united by the fact that the Irish are an ethnic minority on both sides of the border.
Let's have a discussion about it but not mention the history behind it typical newstalk hypocrisy
Exactly.
It's dumb when the English fans do it and it's no different when the Irish fans do it. Also I couldn't give a toss what Keir Starmer thinks 🙄
Hear hear. Tyranical rat he is.
Professor of European integration well that says it all. Newstalk couldn't possibly get anyone more offendable. He really threw the kitchen sink at it. Worst of the past, dangerous territory. Its extreme banter what men used to partake in, in work, in pubs, at football games. The good Friday agreement isn't going to collapse, and who cares what starmer thinks.
Being against a foreign monarchy that caused havoc in Ireland and still occupies 6 of our counties isnt bad
So all Unionists in Northern Ireland are Monarchs eh
Like it or not the 6 counties are not occupied. If they were the Republic of Ireland wouldn't recognize Northern Ireland
@Karl-bw8rp We don't 😂😂 where do you live.😂😂
@@johnpurcell7525what has that got to do with the six counties still being occupied
@johnpurcell7525 Monarchists, and yes, as of now.
Football banter. Majority of those booing would happily share a pint with average English fan afterwards.
True but media distraction n all that.
It was very disgusting and unwelcome when they left us to starve, it’s very shameful that they still hold on to our country. 🙏✝️❤️❤️☘️✝️
I made it about 3 minutes before I had to turn off
Absolute tripe
As usual woke nonsense again. Clearly did not see the english fans sticking there fingers up at the irish fans while singing there anthem along with booing the itish anthem. Smh
Professor of integration..What a job title..More quangos.
Liverpool fans boo GSTK. Free speech and all that.
Most of them don’t do taht
At least it's giving newstalk something to bang on about, on an otherwise slow news day.
Little WestBrits taking issue with it 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪.
@@niallcostello7735 You're speaking English. Does that make you a West Brit?
Mind-boggling that people can’t comprehend simple football banter and rivalry - let alone history. These ‘outraged’ people are professional-bedwetters and West Brits and they’re absolutely sickening tbh.
A soccer match has got to be the worst place to bring a leader of another country particularly England v Ireland....Rugby would definitely be a better option....
There has always been this rivalry between the English and Irish football fans, and this is not a problem.
but what is a problem is that you have fools that haven’t got a clue about this rivalry trying to politicize it as a problem because they have no understanding about what they are trying to talk about,
most likely they are snobs that have in recent years gained access to tickets for these matches and they feel uncomfortable when the boos start, as I’ve said they are not real football fans but recent blow in’s over the last couple years.
If it is ok for the Liverpool fans to boo their monarchy it is ok with me. Newstalk is total rubbish.
1986 FA cup final..Everton v Liverpool…you should have heard the boos during the anthem and when a member of the royal family was meeting the players…..
I' STAND WITH ONLY THE PATRIOTIC OPPRESSED ENGLISH/BRITISH PEOPLE AND NOT The ANTI ENGLISH/BRITISH OPRRESSERS POLITICIANS LIKE THERE NEW PM MR STARMER
⚖️🇮🇪🤝🇬🇧⚖️
Jesus, would ye touch grass lads. This is football. It happens. As ive seen another comment say, most booing would happily share a pint with the england fans post match.
But i get it, any excuse to stir up some division between people.
Well said
It's not even the English anthem. They could have played one of the songs they use in other sports. Nobody's booing Blake.
Singing about a monarch in an ex colony is just as offensive as booing.
Stormer not welcome in england,,, never mind Eire !!! Who give's a toss,, its only football ...
Jeez. This lad needs to get over himself. It's a football game. There was just a bit of booing, singing, chanting. No physical violence at all. It went off very peacefully. Again! Get over yourself.
Go under your beds and wait till rugby is back
Of course they were booed? They played for ireland then rejected us ? Its football not your namby pamby politically right liberal space ? Was there violence at or after the match
That woman who called in didn't watch the match, but went on youtube to see what all the fuss was about and now she's calling Newstalk with her knickers in a bunch about it! Pure manufactured pearl-clutching from the media aimed at her ilk who'd go out of their way to search out something to take offence at 🙄
That caller Mairead rushed to youtube to search up something to get offended by and then called a radio show to criticise the fans for 'just giving people a reason to kick off'! That's how easy it is for the media to whip these pawns up into a feeding frenzy of righteous indignation
I'm sure many of those booing during the British anthem, have a relative living and working in England. Having said that, the English supporters behaved terribly in 1995 at Landsdown Road.
Almost 30 years ago that …
The past is the past Irish people are not all the same and English people are not all the same we live and we learn
In fairness Lizzie is in a box is a banger that should be sing in every match 😂
He's talking bull, does he not realise that English fans boo every opposing team's anthem. Do you think England fans wouldn't boo the Irish anthem.
@@davidcooney3100 the rugby fans don't. English and Irish rugby fans sit together and stay silent respectfully when the opposition teams sings their anthem
@@carlowman6669 we don't even play our Anthem at Rugby internationals, instead we play an annoying song, Irelands call, so as not to upset the loyalist fans in Northern Ireland.
That’s a pack of lies
Absolute tripe from RTE 3
Clowns not living in the real world
What the hell is going on?
I'm an England fan.
I've been to dozens of games in Wembley, Trafford, SoL.
The away NA is ALWAYS booed.
I was at the England v Scotland game a few years ago...the best part of the game was both sets of fans booing the opposition NA.
Grow up Ireland.
Well said. English welcome in Ireland always 🙋🇮🇪 🏴...
As regards booing Declan Rice and Jack Grealish, English supporters boo players in England who move to a rival club.
Professor of European integration......................main office in Lagos with sub offices in Kiev and Kabul.
All the toffs so upset we don't all live in bubble wrap and fairycakes ?
Newsflash for that English caller: the Irish flag is ritually burned on the island of Ireland every year when the British loyalists celebrate the defeat of the Irish Catholics in their own country. No mention of "shame" from him regarding that hatred of the Irish..
More hurt feelings! Jesus how lefty is this country gone. Grow up.
National athems at soccer matches are divisive and a waste of time . The soccer element is very nasty and tribal and can invite troublemakers.
Sporting rivalry - that’s all, relax your puffy sleeves there
When Ireland now goes to England for their next match, the English socer supporters will boo Ireland in retaliation.
That Partitionist 26 County Quasi-Team is not a 32 County IRISH Team!
That Brit eulogy tune, that the Brits sing to their British “King”/Commander In Chief of Their British Forces: is not a “ “visitor’s” national anthem”. BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The British Imperial Colonialists Are Not Visitors! They still partition IRELAND! They still occupy 6 counties directly and as a consequence they also occupy the other 26!
Brits Out Via An International Criminal Court!
Erin Go Bragh!
I can’t believe people are surprised 😂😂
If we cleanse the society of all its faults we will end up with people who have no resilience. This sort of coddling of high level focused athletes is a joke. The tiktok generation is gonna be an anxiety riddled mess for this.
As a texter said. Pure pearl clutching. As for the lad that says he'll get abuse if he wears a kerry or dublin jersey at West ham or old Trafford. What is he talking about? And why would he wear a gaa jersey to a football game in England. What a stupid article.
Tell people who lost love ones over the years
Logically then they can boo our anthem since they also lost loved ones? We rely on them almost entirely for our defence as well.
@aightm8 they get well paid for that, and it's in their own interest to do so they don't do it out of the goodness of their heart
@@punchy1325no we don't pay them anything for the air defence they provide. And we are only now in the process of getting long range radar.
It's one of the few countries that would look out for Irelands interests. Stupid to burn bridges over what dead people did.
@@punchy1325paid hah😂😂😂 you definitely are a 🤡
@aightm8 we do pay, and no one is burning bridges it goes deeper than an anthem, and FYI, some people aren't dead yet you seem to have a gold fish's memory I'd see a doctor about that if I were you
English fans boo the opposition’s anthem. The Irish fans are identical.
Untrue. English fans don’t usually do that.
@@proudsussexer I never accused ALL of the England fans. Most are respectful - as are most fans of other countries. But there is a childish element who do boo and the Irish have the exact same issue. They are an embarrassment.
Overreaction to noting the booing is part of the pantomime of the game it stays in the stadium mostly its part and parcel for gods sake
I think it's the only thing to moan about because there was no trouble or violence and nothing to blame on far right thugs
It was very rude and there was no need for it.
England fans were attacked by some drunken yobs
Exporting record numbers of food during the famine was disgraceful. West Brit media should be ashamed of themselves
Ireland didn't play England; the Republic of Ireland played England. Mr. Holmes from north of the border is as Irish as anyone else in this clip even if he is entirely British into the bargain.
Who cares. Kier Starmer is no friend. And his anthem is the German one. 99% of the English don't know their anthem. They don't give a hoot about the nation they proclaim to love so much. I'm English btw.
Long to reign over us ,???..i must respectfully decline ...Only Odin rules thine...and mine... when you get back to.that welcome !!
I agree wholeheartedly.....how would we feel if the Irish Anthem was being booed at in Wembley?? John makes several valid points
Wouldn't care...craic.
Do you have nothing better to talk about, 😂
Why would we show respect for the anthem of the country that occupies part of our own country .85.000 English living here 90% are actually irish decent .English not
.
What's your point?
@johnmulderrig3234 they don’t occupy any part of our country. Is if they did the Republic wouldn’t recognise the North.
F o
Football is our warriors arena so expect some rivalry . We don't take it outside the stadium
The speaker from Maynooth says it all, the Roman empire. With regards the people from former EU state, UK. and other immigrants in the EU who are at present in the EU including the EU Sector of Ireland, with the True Born Citizen Act they no longer will be, a person born in EU with both parents born in EU can live and work, Bio Data of person and both parents on Passport, Identity Documents, automated passport control the EU will be free of Non EU persons from the Mediterranean to the North Sea including the EU Sector of Ireland. Thank you for supporting the EU and True Born Citizen Act.
Hate only breeds hate we never learn with a return fixture coming at Wembley I wonder what will happen at the anthems now
Not hate...
Personally ive no issues with this. Free speech and all that. I have no issues with english fans doing it either. Although i appreciate it can be unsavoury for some people.
Its just football banter,,shut up
This is a dumb argument
Wah wah
It was embarrassing to hear on the tv. It doesnt happen at the rugby matches. Most of the irish soccer fans spend their weekend shouting at the telly watching the premiership teams! Hypocrisy at its best. The amount of irish fans sat at dublin airport on Saturday mornings as they spend the money flying over the watch man u and Liverpool is huge. But then boo the english national anthem?? Wake up people. We are better than that. Its 2024. The past is the past. Let it go. Look forward not back.
Woketalk FM
Professor of Partitionist Style Revisionism, more-like!
😂😂😂 " It reminded me, of the worst of the past"? Was anyone injured during the booing? Give me a break. Where did newstalk get these contributors from? They don't know anything about football.
Simon Harris must have been embarrassed standing beside Sir Kier Starmer during the booing.
Probably they should use a different anthem in Ireland. It's just bad anthem with a bad message and it's meaning is contrary to the idea of a constitutional Republic. I wouldn't mind if we used an alternative to Amhrán na bhFiann If We were doing a match up north to be fair with the whole "Soldiers of Destiny."
What's the "bad message" bubba? That we want sovereignty and freedom?
Charles is using his alias again !.
We already do that as not to offend the protestant Rugby audience up north, utter bull in my mind.
This is disgraceful, why don’t the Irish fans take their example from the English fans when they travel abroad?
Need to change their name to anti Irish fm
You need to grow up
@@proudsussexer weh weh😭
Lol it's football that's what happens
Never happens at the rugby
Such dribble!
Most of us couldn't give a toss what you woke people think!
The English know what to expect when playing here.
I couldn't care if English fans booed our anthem!
It's Football...
A bit of Craic...
😂😂😂
Slow news day today huh Shilltalk
"God save the King" should only logically be sung by Germans as an ode to their and Europe's weirdest monarchy; the Hanoverian House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha Windsors. After all, the Germanic Angles and Saxons ruled Blighty for almost 800 years before being subjected by the Franco Normans..
Nothing childish about understanding history. Grow up.
I agree with chris,and john,
English anthem Keir starmer what what Kier Starmer any Muslims playing for kier no ok 💪🇮🇪☘️🇬🇧💪
The irony is : Are there still any ethnic English players on the English team? The entire 'European Cup' should be renamed the 'African Cup'. The Irish team is surely going the same way- the wokerati in this country won't be outwoked by the French or English!
Hahaha how do you Irish pronounce that bog language anthem? Yes master, it is difficult, you could try phonetically hahahah
I am ashamed of this 😢
Weird
😂
Abloutsley disgraceful behavior, every national anthem should be respected. Most Irish people have family in England.
Balls!
The Irish showing why a United Ireland will never happen. Republicanism encouraged this division.