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Fin grip is ridiculous. Thanks for making this video helps out knowing your options.
It is Californians that are ridiculous lol!
I feel like some are designed where you can just yk
I personally use comp-mags because it doesn't require replacing ANY parts on the rifle. Not even pins. The disadvantage of course is reloads; however, the benefit to me is that in SHTF/new laws/traveling scenarios I have a completely normal rifle in 2minutes after removing the magazine.
For me, reloads are not as important as standard ergonomics. Of course, everyone has their own preferences.
I have two bullet button era rifles. That’s the route I went. I can’t do that freaking fin grip. Plus I had bought one and put tons of ‘scary’ stuff on it like a year before all this BS happened. I wasn’t taking it all off.
I literally just commented almost the exact thing 😊
I’m leaning toward the comp-mags but are there issues clearing jams? I thought you wouldn’t be able to eject the mag to clear any issue? Or am I totally wrong?
@@rickperkins1555 you are correct. Removing the magazine is simply not an option unless you are uninstalling it.
I have had people jam it up by loading it incorrectly so I had to field strip to clear it.
And they are not very durable .
I still prefer them, since as I said they require no change to the firearm and a normal rifle is only a field strip away in the event I travel or the law changes.
I commented the exact same thing. Not a lot of people know about those.
I'm glad I left California. I miss Humboldt county, but living in California was more harm than good for my family.
When the atf raids your place, they will be bringing “high capacity magazines” and fully featured “assault rifles”
Meanwhile criminals aint following any of this ish....sorry law abidies 😅
Thank you. This is the most straight forward, clear cut video to explain CA’s stupid crap.
This makes me feel so glad we aren’t dealing with this in Texas rn and governor is fighting the atf on this stuff
Same for us in Montana . This video was very hard to wrap my brain around . I had a lot of “whys???”
You would bend over just the same if they changed the laws. It all comes down to money with politicians, whether left or right. Two wings of the same bird.
Fin grip to me is a better option. I had a fixed mag one but there’s way too many extra steps when you’re running drills with a shot timer so I turned it into a featureless rifle. It’s faster and more practical. Great video, man.
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there are no options that are better than the others when they all comply with the "laws" 🤦🏻♂️
also you shouldnt comply with any of the "laws" and should do the one thing that will actually stop them which is fight back physically like the second amendment intends for us to be
That casting couch joke at the beginning really caught me off guard hahaha
I just heard the term California compliant so I googled it and after watching this video all I can say is fkkkkkkkk that !!! I love my Montana . Thank you for info it was actually educating
My dream state. If I ever get the means to move. Montana is my destination
In Texas our laws are ridiculous we can have standard 30rd magazines, any pistol grips we want and tanks
Whats really rediculous is that Armalite, was formed in the early 1950s, in Hollywood, California. Chief designer was Eugene Stoner.
@@haikarate3876nah its back when they actually didnt care too much about "weapon control"
Thank you for the great explanation video.
I am also in California and had no idea about all these restrictions.
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Fin grips…. The most dangerous “California safety feature” we can have.
I honestly like the thordsen stock, it handles like a traditional rifle stock. Another good option is the thumb rest fin grip. I like how the thordsen gen 3 looks but I really wanted an m16a2 clone and the fun grip helped me achieve that and in all honesty it’s not that bad. I tried mag lock and it was a pain but also didn’t seem to be reliable, my issue was sometimes the magazine wouldn’t seat all the way.
..I like the grip that isn't California compliant
Nice video brother, socal here, what secondary optic is on your first rifle? And the optic on your fixed mag rifle? Both looks sick! Keep up the great content! Peace!
I feel sooo bad for you folks in California…
Our gun laws here are ridiculous. I have 2 fixed mag rifles with FNGR fixed mag kits installed on both and I use a bear flag defense loader. Maybe one day we’ll get to have nice things here lol
I bet the founding fathers and all the Patriots are rolling in their graves.
You Can it just won’t be legal
You gonna wait for someone else to put in work for you?
@@scottishd0g87 no but I’ll go on TH-cam and comment on some gun vids and act hard, maybe that’ll help
Stop living like a slave and just un neuter them
Those AR are ridiculous, but if it’s what you can have legally, then do the best you can.
Thank for this video. I found it very informational as I will be purchasing my first AR here in California and had no idea what featureless or fixed mag meant. 💯 much love from the 559!
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thanks for the info man, still trying to wrap my head around all this.
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I choose featureless because you can keep the standard mag release and replace the fin with a Resurgent or Sparrow grip. Thanks for the explanations.
Are those fin grips removable?
Yes you can remove them just how you would if you were replacing the grip
Takes about a minute. @@joesparapani6022
@@norcalrifleman6785yeah I’ll just do that then 😂😂
I use the comp mag because you can easily take it out and put in a regular mag. It’s the easiest way to have a regular rifle within seconds
I was reading about the guns over there, i live in Texas BTW, and i read that drug cartels buy these "featureless" rifles are all the time from gun stores in San Diego, Los Angeles, and Bakersfield, and they get smuggled to Mexico where a guy cuts off the fin with a saw... And thats it. They 3D magazines down there too. But these laws work huh
Shall not be infringed. The compliance render them unusable. That is infringement.
Best video at explaining CA legal AR! Thank you !!!!!!!!!
theres no such thing as a "california legal" ar" all weapons are legal in all states second amendment the issue is we allow these fake "laws" to be enforced as if theyre real anyway by not fighting back physically like the second amendment intends for us to be
If 💩hits the fan, like really goes south... none on that complaint stuff is going to matter.
I personally would just live free. It might sound like an oxymoron with that previous statement but typically if you don't break laws, none of this matters anyways.
Keep extra parts on hand and change when needed. I'm not a California resident but I find it interesting the hoops you guys have to jump thru just to own those scary black firearms.
You wouldn't live free. You'd bend over just like everyone else in CA.
I can’t believe we have let it get this bad in Cali.
This is why young people shouldn’t vote until the age of 25….
So wtf are you gonna do about it?
@@Grumpyskaterpeople should stop voting period.
Awesome video man. Thanks for sharing. The camo looks great. Did you do it or bought it like that?
I rattle canned it brotha
"Im a family man. I follow the law. I have kids and i dont want to get in trouble and lose my freedom" this man is more patriotic and american than the entirety of our 'leaders' including the 9th circus clowns 🤡
Our gun laws are trash. I run AR Maglock gen 2 w/ kingpins on both of my fixed mag ARs. For me it just runs way better than the others. I’m still able to use my bolt catch/release and clear malfunctions without breaking the whole rifle apart. Plus, it works with the bolt all the way locked back.
The locked mag reminds me of when I was a kid and ya would call time out in the middle of tag like wait I gotta field strip my ar to reload lol!!!!
Thank you for the info! Hard to learn this stuff, i am just getting into this.
Watching this video from Missouri. I’m like what is going on in cali I’m confused at these strange configurations they had to come up with to comply with these ridiculous laws. I am glad I don’t live in the communist state of cali but I feel for my brothers who do
Yes I’m living behind enemy lines.
It’s crazy man hopefully we fight these laws this and get rid of those people who infringed us here in cali!
I dont. FUCK Cali.
Just my 2 cents. I went with Featureless. Thorsden GEN 3 stock for me. I don't like the Fin grip.
New subscriber. I don't own an AR yet but I super want one
I watch this just to remind myself how great i have it here in Texas
You forgot to mention that on fix mag, you can only do 10 round mags; if you put any larger, it’s against the law. Featureless, can do standard capacity (30 round mags), if you got them from “Freedom Week” or grandfathered in.
That is true, but I don't really want to touch too much on standard capacity mags due to TH-cams restrictions.
@@norcalrifleman6785am I dreaming? I thought I heard you say exactly that
I feel for yeah brother. I’m here on the east coast in NY. So I know what your going through. Yeah you can buy a “NYS” compliant rifle which is like you said featureless or you can build one to your liking like you can buy the parts to do it.
But from what I heard at a gun show recently if you have one of those fixed mags in the rifle. What that is it’s the fixed 10 round mag and the mag release button is set with that non release screw and you can make your rifle one of those scary AR RIFLES. Like adjustable stock, forward grips, etc etc.
can you run standard 30 round mags if you have the juggernaut fixed mag setup?
I'm in NY so I totally understand your pain bro
Planing on getting one but fixed mag is the best option. But I agree with practice the steps and you will get better at using it. Featureless rifle are ridiculous and not practical in my opinion.
Good informative video. Do you prefer the mag lock rifle or the featureless rifle? Which do you find easier to use at the range? What brand are these 2 rifles?
God willing once those stupid laws get repealed, your fixed mag ar will be a regular AR
I have a pump action 22LR but I want to get a 556 or 762 by 39 I'm just dreading the purchase process I want to make sure everything goes as smooth as possible. .....
The first joke got a thumbs up from me😂
Take a look at “super tool” for ar 15. Another option for fixed mag.
I’d recommend living a free man in California And obey traffic laws :)
Amen, don’t commit misdemeanors while committing felonies (:
if you buy a rifle with the grip fin and fixed stock, can you change it to a fixed mag and take down pin?
I feel your pain brother I live in another hell hole state with just as bad laws in new York stupid as hell you can have a bolt action with any feature and similar semi autos if look like a normal hunting rifle they are way more laxed when operationally it's the same
very informative video, thank you so much for posting.
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I myself prefer featureless. I tried fixed mag and did not like it.
Mine switched to featureless and at point was maglock what a pain in the butt if you have any failures like riding the charging handle I one time had a double feed what a pain after that is when I changed cause at least it's functional
Compmag is a hassle to train but will keep all of your features in case you want to clean and maintain your rifle just don’t use regulars mags in it
I was considering buying a rifle with the juggernaut take down kit as mentioned but the guy at the store said it was a bitch to clear jams, double feeds etc. He is all about the comp mags but I’m wondering if there are the same situations with clearing a jam. What’s your experience been like?
@@rickperkins1555 well yea juggernaut isn’t all that great dude but maglock works a lot better, hope that helps
@jaybee2812 Thanks, brother! Appreciate the follow up.
I just got a mini-14 to bypass this garbage. It's been modernized, strap, light, optic. It's a traditional rifle stock but you can replace the stock. Decent alternative for CA if you don't want to have a neutered weapon. I used that fin in training the day after using a standard AR15 and it's night a day difference with your grip and refuse to use it or have these extra steps just to reload. Reloading the mini with a 10rd mag kinda sucks as you don't have much to grab onto but I expect the mag restrictions to be removed soon and I can load up on 20/30rd mags which will remove that problem. I expect these featureless rules to also be removed in the coming few years in which case I will pickup a standard AR15 or similar.
How much did you get your mini14 for? I've been looking to get one for the same reasons as you mentioned. I got an smith and Wesson M&P 15 II, with the juggernaut tactical mag lock since it was cheaper than getting a mini 14 in the same caliber. However I still want a mini for the collection as I'm sure someday they may become rare collectors items or just become way more expensive.
@@technollusion I paid 1,200 for a used one recent series and in great condition. Fires great and came with 4x 10rd mags. I'm sure the person letting it go, didn't want to let it go.
I actually ordered a new mini-14 and after a year of waiting I canceled the order. Shortly after I saw one in another store and grabbed it.
I got the ultimak rail which gave me mounting options. Holosun reflect optic and I installed a smaller gas screw so the spent cartridges don't go flying across the state.
You can get factory 20 round mags that are blocked off to 10. Then when we finally win Duncan v. Bonta you can just scrape the epoxy off the floor plate and remove the block.
ca AR-15's are like the bop it game
How much do you pay for your ammo bc after fees it cost me $1 each for a 5.56 bullet? Just wondering how much you pay for yalls in California
you look familiar mang. Good video.
Do live in the projects? Those cinderblock walls remind me of my childhood.
What fore end is that with the quad rails?
As a Californian…that fin is so embarrassing
@norcalrifleman... have you used a dremel or any tool to shave down the "beak" on the ar maglock to make it thinner? Once you do it will fit in the small space of the upper and lower when the bolt is locked back
What does he say? "you can't use a freedom week mag" I can't tell what he's saying.
I swear these laws are silly. I have a featureless with sparrow dynamics grip.
Trying to get my first rifle and it fucking sucks to be in California but appreciate the content
It does but you know what we're moving in the right direction hopefully judge Benitez comes through for us soon
Good info dude TY !!! ill be following ur channel 100
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Badass
Ya'll think it's bad in Cali meanwhile ARs are outright banned completely here in NYC.
Washington state and Illinois are not too far behind either
Where in Northern California are you located?
which upper is that on the fixed mag rifle? been looking for a railed upper with the carbine sight
California can't make up their minds. I bought my AR with a regular mag release then had to change it to the 'bullet button' and now they want me to go back to the original mag release button. Idiots!
Wait i thought ca compliance we cant have vertical fore grip? Did i miss something in the video??? Help!!!
It's a fixed mag rifle. As long as you have a fixed mag set up you can have standard features. But you can only use 10 round mags.
@@norcalrifleman6785 so lets say i have a compmag as a fixed mag, then i can use vertical foregrip?
Per California DOJ definition yes but this is not legal advice I would check out DOJs definition on their website
Do not like the featureless. That fin pistol grip is ridiculous. I use the CompMag. You don’t have to change your gun in any way.
Yes loading it is ridiculous but not too bad if you’re at the range. Of course if you ever had to really use it the way it was intended if or when the SHTF you can easily take it out and put in a real mag.
Great information though for us Californians complying with tyranny.
Super helpful 👍🏽👍🏽
its almost like they said how can we make owning a gun as hard as possible leave California guys I beg of you.
Another option is to convert to bolt action.
Why do all the gangsters get the good ones and we get the shit ones.
Democrats. It’s that simple
@@BasedDad35good point. It would be rare indeed to find a gun owner that votes blue.
I would move! 😅
Can we get fully assembled upper receivers sent to us in California?
What about the hand guard does it have to be drop in or is free float ok??
Currently there are no restrictions on what kind of handguard you can use to my knowledge
@@norcalrifleman6785 awesome thank you for the reply
For home defense scenario, which of this configs do you prefer? I’m thinking fixed mag would be easier to control and shoot - you only really need one mag for home defense, not going into a prolonged fight - you agree?
For home defense, personally i run a pistol for maneuvering easier through the home. But if I had to use a rifle for home defense, I would run featureless to have a standard mag release. Plus you can run freedom week mags in featureless rifles not on fixed mag set ups. As far as only needing one mag for home defense it depends on the scenario. If it's multiple people I rather have the ability to reload. I rather have more to use than not enough to use.
@@norcalrifleman6785 Thank you for your video and your perspective! 👍🏼
So glad I moved to rural Oregon I can own a normal gun and escaped all the other downside of California
I can’t find specifics on having a vertical grip on fixed mag setup, I’m under impression that it cannot be 90 degrees?
Along as it's a fixed mag you can run anything on it just can't run freedom week mags in it.
Bro if you had to choose 1 which would u do
The featureless one
Gun laws in California are enough that i would move to another state. 100%.
How easy or hard is it to get a lower in California now a days?
It's Just like buying a firearm gotta run a background check and wait 10 days
Im thinking about getting JT10 from juggernaut Tactical that is california complaint but also planning on moving in the near future from California. What needs to be done to the rife to make it like the ones in freedom states?
I wouldn’t buy one of these Commiefornia models. I would just wait until you move. It will be way cheaper and you will have more selection from normal rifles that have none of this BS on them.
Could you have an angled grip?
great video! thanks
What type of comp are you running on your featureless? Also what is the barrel length in it??
Required to be 16 inch barrel on feature less
What kind is that all black ar?
Aero Presicion m4e1 upper and lower with Aero bolt, radian charging handle
California: "I have a great idea! Let's make rifles less stable by requiring an non-ergonomic grip. That way, shooters will hit their target with less accuracy and that will surely make it safer for everyone!"
There is a 4th option...
Someone told me California citizens can't own a 5.56 AR, is that true?
No not true. You can own an Ar15 Rifle along as it's California compliant
Great info, man! Thanks!
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a beginner in east L.A
U gave up ur freedom for a little safety and now have neither
You'll do the same when it comes to your state too. Cuckboi.
Can you mount a light on a featureless rifle and still CA approved?
Yes
This makes want to cry
What rail you have on the fixed mag rifle
Midwest Industries
I just run comp mags
Call me crazy but i heard that flash hiders are illegal even on fixed mag rifles, i thought california fully banned them
And your fixed mag rifle can't be closed and pinned together without a mag in it, because then it would act like a normal rifle, not trying to nit pick you but this video could get you in legal trouble if they could prove that you weren't in compliance with the law while in California