Dem Senate Candidate Shoots Reporter (Ricochet) While Faking Pro 2A

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  • @VSO_Gun_Channel
    @VSO_Gun_Channel  วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Kinzinger is def also not wearing eye pro while shooting steel. Safe gun practices FAIL across the board.
    I realize that I said "25yards" in the video, def meant 25 feet. Forgiveness please.
    Edit:
    How to apply a TQ
    th-cam.com/video/lg2pdpYw51s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-1Hu2OBvldMZPDkp

    • @svbarryduckworth628
      @svbarryduckworth628 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think you are off base talking about his bladed stance. Just because trends have changed and the silly stance of today is all the rage (even when NOT wearing armor) doesn't mean the old techniques are wrong. Those of us who trained in combat arms 30-40 years ago don't need to be "cool" and do things the new trendy way like you mod kids feel is the "only way." Make fun of my chicken wing all you want but when I served my country that's exactly how the DI's insisted it be done.

    • @741podnammoc
      @741podnammoc วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      To slightly agree/counter Duckworth's comment, I think the bladed stance makes sense given training from years ago. Dad was a PoG as well, and if Kizinger was a jag lawyer back then it makes sense that the 🐔 wing is that way, as well as the stance. Weaver stance was the norm back then, same for broomsticking the handle.
      However, to disagree, I think it's telling that HE'S NOT EVEN DOING THE WEAVER STANCE PROPERLY OR GOOD ENOUGH. I don't think the using either the isosceles or weaver makes you cool or not cool. Doing them right makes you cool. Maybe he's trying to do the Olympic shooter stance? But come on!

    • @svbarryduckworth628
      @svbarryduckworth628 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @741podnammoc I think it comes down to what works for you and that there really is no "right" way if it gets good results. There might be wrong ways that are unsafe or cause accuracy issues, but if something is working let them be. Just because some new trendy stance or grip is all the rage doesn't mean older stuff is no longer valid. A lot of the modern stuff was adapted after body armor became ubiquitous but if you don't have armor and don't plan on getting any then pre-armor rifle stances are just as valid today as they were back then.
      I really get sick of some teflon targ coming up to me on the range telling me I am gripping my firearms wrong and when we compare targets his are all over the paper (and sometimes off of it) and mine are all in a tiny group even though I waa shooting darn near too fast and getting dirty bithwing sideeye from the RO. When I point these target differences out they invariably say something like "You'd have even tighter groups if you took my advice..."
      Goat pound fish dude.

  • @Excelnaught-f4b
    @Excelnaught-f4b วันที่ผ่านมา +123

    When I watch democrats handle guns I start to understand why they’re afraid of them

    • @Quantiples
      @Quantiples วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This makes sense

    • @mfallen2023
      @mfallen2023 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I can't even imagine how much damage they'd have done if they were shooting rifle's with some ass to them. That stance, plus a .300 win mag would have led to all kinds of injuries, lol. He'd have a shoulder out of socket, a black eye, and everyone there would have been fragged by the shrapnel from shooting mild steel that close. Morons...

    • @gregdarmenio6902
      @gregdarmenio6902 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You've never seen this Democrat handle a gun. I'm a certified grandmaster so you need to just keep your opinion at the individual level and not try to generalize.

    • @Excelnaught-f4b
      @Excelnaught-f4b วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@gregdarmenio6902 No I’ll generalize exactly as much as I want. Stop associating yourself with idiots if you don’t like being lumped in with

    • @gregdarmenio6902
      @gregdarmenio6902 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Excelnaught-f4b well then I guess I'll generalize you must be a maga moron that doesn't have a brain in their head like all maga morons that support traitor Trump.
      The people that I associate with are not idiots and are very good with handling weapons.
      Like I said you are truly a moron.

  • @bentwheeldryerrepair
    @bentwheeldryerrepair วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    Did they contact the sheriff? Aren't all gunshot wounds supposed to be reported to law enforcement?

    • @TheInfantry98
      @TheInfantry98 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No dumbass

    • @Sagart999
      @Sagart999 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You keep forgetting that Dems never have to actually *obey* the laws they pass.

    • @GoonyMclinux
      @GoonyMclinux วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bentwheeldryerrepair Yes, but they get a free pass because they are Democrats.

    • @David-e1b3t
      @David-e1b3t วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Democrats are exempt from the mountains of gun laws they wrote. That's for who Leona Helmsley used to call "the little people."

    • @littlehills739
      @littlehills739 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      same as when anti gunners hacksaw off the barrel and claim its inactive with 6" fwd of the action

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Pew Pew taught by Alec Baldwin.

  • @svbarryduckworth628
    @svbarryduckworth628 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Shooting steel at 25 feet with a high power rifle is just plain noob irresponsible bs. These guys don't have a clue.

    • @Smokie082
      @Smokie082 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Intermediate cartridge, and yes, you never shoot steel inside of 25 yards without frangible ammunition.

    • @svbarryduckworth628
      @svbarryduckworth628 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Smokie082 The 5.56mm Intermediate cartridge is still a high-powered rifle cartridge -as is also the 7.62x39mm.

    • @suprafastmafc
      @suprafastmafc วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've never heard this rule... But to be fair. This is just common sense to anyone that knows anything about anything.

    • @Smokie082
      @Smokie082 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@svbarryduckworth628 nope

  • @davidelzinga9757
    @davidelzinga9757 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    My hypothesis is that since they genuinely believe their opposition is stupid, they think firearm safety comes easily and intuitively. They are victims of their own koolaid who think they don’t need to seek experienced aid setting up a photo op with the oppositions tools

    • @benjaminshropshire2900
      @benjaminshropshire2900 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The other option is they feel (deep in their heart) that it's impossible to use guns safely so what difference does it make?

    • @flinchfu
      @flinchfu วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think they lose sleep over making firearms look unhinged, risky and erratic as possible. Kinda like the guy who fumbles with the competitor brand in an infomercial...

    • @flinchfu
      @flinchfu วันที่ผ่านมา

      Btw the 20' range is INFURIATING

  • @NCGunguy89
    @NCGunguy89 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Guess who is gonna be a double feature in "Gun Meme Review" and "The Darwin Awards"

  • @dancortes3062
    @dancortes3062 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    He really lives up to his name.

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Since when do paper targets make shrapnel? Also, Kunce was not a real marine. He was a JAG lawyer.

    • @741podnammoc
      @741podnammoc วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That explains a lot.

    • @scavl14
      @scavl14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Weren't shooting paper, had small upright steel plates. Plain stupidity on their part. I know they aren't smart! Clearly

  • @bettereveryday7612
    @bettereveryday7612 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    As a Missourian i can’t stand this man

    • @tonyc223
      @tonyc223 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here, Hawley is most impressive politician that Missouri has seen in 60 years.

  • @hanelyp1
    @hanelyp1 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The hazards of trying to fake respect for a culture which includes multiple practices based on safety.

  • @fattigla
    @fattigla วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The famous direct relationship between doing one thing, and then finding out another thing.

  • @Nickrioblanco1
    @Nickrioblanco1 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Sad consequence of America losing the (gun culture) training of how to use safely (and properly) firearms from an early age. When it is easier to learn and is more likely to ingrain in the long-term memory.

    • @jayjones6904
      @jayjones6904 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They remind me of lot of Europeans who know nothing of guns or ammo

    • @Princess_Celestia_
      @Princess_Celestia_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jayjones6904 Tell me about it. A cousin of mine married this British chick, one fall we went camping on another cousin's private property where we where gonna shoot. Well British chick brought her brother with her and he started telling me that I needed to pour all my pyrodex out of the plastic container it cam in and dump it into a wood box. And I'm just like.... dude, we're in a humid environment, wooden boxes aren't water tight, moisture gets into them and ruins the powder.

  • @robertkoonce8365
    @robertkoonce8365 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Am I missing something? Who shoots an AR 15 on a rim fire pistol range?

    • @michaellavaughnrobinson
      @michaellavaughnrobinson วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like something a drunk uncle does on 4th of July. He whips out an ak and starts tearing up the .22 range. What an asshole.

    • @aaronloveday4858
      @aaronloveday4858 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Some real stupid kunce

  • @ghostpunkkilla
    @ghostpunkkilla วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Kinsinger being involved with stupidity? Surely you jest my good sir.

  • @michaelprather8371
    @michaelprather8371 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The way the tourniquet was used jumped out at me too. Was there no other means of securing the gauze in any of the first aid kits? If that guy actually needed a TQ he wouldn't have been able to continue reporting.

  • @khanj42
    @khanj42 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Guy never even flipped down his eye protection

  • @spikymikie
    @spikymikie วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 "Welcome to the Darwin award competition! Todays contestant, Lucas Kunce. "

  • @doncancio2
    @doncancio2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I was having a hard time finishing the video, it was making me cringe on how many red flags were showing. Just like what they say, there’s no pill for st***d.

  • @BlueMarten
    @BlueMarten วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    - TH-cam auto-captions reads [__] when you say Kunce. 😂

  • @christinepearson5788
    @christinepearson5788 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    All this video needed was a label: satire. Actor performances. Do not attempt. They were straight up do everything wrong including how not to do first aid.

  • @PS-rr2jt
    @PS-rr2jt วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Cluster F of mistakes.

  • @JW-fq1pp
    @JW-fq1pp วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    That doesn't even look like they're much more than 15 feet from the targets. I noticed the Tannerite containers also when I first saw the photos. These guys are future Darwin Award contestants for sure.

    • @catsspat
      @catsspat วันที่ผ่านมา

      To be fair, I assume they aren't mixed yet. And if so, I don't think they pose any real danger to anyone there, beyond the stupid "shooting at steel targeta 6 yards away" does.

  • @mydogharlee
    @mydogharlee วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’m a former woman Marine and Deputy and know you don’t shoot at steel that close and will all things a rifle. And even I know how to handle a shotgun but tampon Tim seems to be unfamiliar. Which reminds me when camela mentioned she had a Glock I knew she was lying because everyone will always mention the caliber or model (it matters).

    • @gregdarmenio6902
      @gregdarmenio6902 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You sound like you don't really know what you're talking about.
      You know what happens when you assume, right?

    • @xDevin
      @xDevin วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gregdarmenio6902 pipe down liberal

  • @jayjones6904
    @jayjones6904 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Tourniquet oh my gosh he could loose arm just from having it on wow plain stupid and these folks want to tell us how to live omg

  • @dwaynegaertner4907
    @dwaynegaertner4907 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wonder if the ATF is gunna look into the barrel length and vertical grip

    • @catwithoutthehat
      @catwithoutthehat วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Isn't that vertical grip a felony as soon as it's attached to a gun

  • @pinking5555
    @pinking5555 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can you send StopBox to the lock picking lawyer? He will find any flaws that might be in the design and help them improve the design.

  • @Silvercrypto-xk4zy
    @Silvercrypto-xk4zy วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    this actually isnt funny, incompetence with guns isnt a laughing matter.

  • @kcfyrproof4919
    @kcfyrproof4919 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nuf said.... the epidemy of incompetence

  • @oldnumber5866
    @oldnumber5866 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If this was a public range these guys would have been asked to leave and never come back. At least a public range wouldn’t have steel targets 10 yards away. At least know the four rules of gun safety.

  • @fattigla
    @fattigla วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    He probably picked the AR15 because of the size of that vert grip.

  • @carlj3515
    @carlj3515 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    First Aid is not a Trauma Kit.

  • @shell-zr9wj
    @shell-zr9wj วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Looks to me like he's got an AR-15 (50- 400 meter targets) on a pistol range which is generally from 10- 50 meter targets... That is unsafe in itself firing at steel targets.
    That's a bad photo op and they're hoping that people are too ignorant to realize the reality of the situation.
    If they were firing at targets that close with an AR no wonder someone was injured 👀🙄🤔

    • @EWTHeckman
      @EWTHeckman วันที่ผ่านมา

      An AR shooting 300 Blackout subsonic at pistol distances is fine because it's similar power to a pistol. That would be the exception. One of their pictures showed the business end of a loaded magazine. It was definitely not 300 Blackout.

  • @sailboat1734
    @sailboat1734 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think that is actually a belt. Again, photo taken with a potato.

  • @davidoverton2432
    @davidoverton2432 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those distance's looked more air soft than actual gun range. The whole thing was strange! Who the heck was the RSO in charge by the way ? They need relieved of that duty for sure.

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    APEC Baldwin Skool of pew pew.

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Baldwin

  • @BecauseWhyNot660
    @BecauseWhyNot660 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Perfect fodder for the Gutfeld! show!🎉

  • @dirt4fun
    @dirt4fun วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still trying to understand what the fishing reel is used for...

  • @deaconblooze1
    @deaconblooze1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are we sure that cryin' Kinzinger isn't related to the other guy? They both look like Kunce to me.

  • @georgewashington938
    @georgewashington938 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many steel target manufactures and gun clubs require 100 yard minimum distance for shooting regular copper jacketed lead Remington .223 rounds at steel targets (which seems like an excessively safe distance). The closest distance I have been able to find from apparently responsible gun sources is 25 yards minimum distance. It looks like the guy in this video was shooting at steel from 5 to 10 yards, which is way too close.
    I have shot matches with 9mm pistol where the targets were at 10 to 10 yards and it wasn't uncommon to have bullet jackets rain down on us. This wasn't a safety concern because 9mm shoots at much slower velocities, so the backsplash of debris loses energy much faster.

  • @741podnammoc
    @741podnammoc วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having seen the picture of the camera man with the tourniquet, I feel really bad for him. Those guys have no idea what they're doing. He looks like he's having a bad time. Very sad.

  • @dennismalloy505
    @dennismalloy505 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    First rule about the lizard people is no one speaks of the lizard people😂. 🦎

  • @ericbeech2652
    @ericbeech2652 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I read that he's a lt col. In the air national guard. I didn't know about marine corps.

  • @vendoredu
    @vendoredu วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is WHY we can't have nice things

  • @terryderush2657
    @terryderush2657 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And this is what is in Congresses. God help 🙏 😫 us all. Seriously.

  • @JimboLogic
    @JimboLogic วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kunce... oh that's perfect.

  • @joedouche3818
    @joedouche3818 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The worse one ever was Cheney.
    Who put that dem behind a gun?

  • @JHusisian
    @JHusisian วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kunce the Dunce? 🙄😎

  • @tonyc223
    @tonyc223 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The things that Dem. politicians do are nauseating.

  • @workingclassless84
    @workingclassless84 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Cringe....

  • @slik560
    @slik560 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dang. Hawley almost got to run unopposed

  • @Losantiville
    @Losantiville วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chaney, Chaney, anyone Chaney.

  • @redneckranger2144
    @redneckranger2144 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Guns are scary!"
    Yeah, well the way yall handle em I can see why you think that. Just leave em to us professionals, n'kay😅

  • @dukecleve4008
    @dukecleve4008 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All Bad... securing gauze with a Tourniquet...wtf

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Alec

  • @David-e1b3t
    @David-e1b3t วันที่ผ่านมา

    We're going to need a new country western song, "Hunting With Cheney"

  • @DoomsdayOps
    @DoomsdayOps วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FFS. This is like Tim Waltz blaming the Beretta. Just ridiculous.

  • @BecauseWhyNot660
    @BecauseWhyNot660 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess that "range" is not really a range?

  • @2a-j989
    @2a-j989 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is that the same rifle that the navy posted?

  • @cycleboy8028
    @cycleboy8028 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My comment… “Lololololololololol…
    Take breath…
    …lolololololololol!”

  • @zedhiro6131
    @zedhiro6131 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It looks like they were using the pistol range.

  • @LordVargur
    @LordVargur 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Its not like brandon getting shrapnel in demo ranch range?

  • @wodinloki9504
    @wodinloki9504 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd point out Cheney's accident but I think we all know it wasn't an accident.

  • @callmecamo2
    @callmecamo2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Que the music!
    🎶On a scale of 1 to 10, my friend, you're f*cked!

  • @fattigla
    @fattigla วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holy close contact!! CQB on tannerite!! 4:12

  • @benjaminshropshire2900
    @benjaminshropshire2900 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if they "think" this is a good thing to keep up because "A bleeding Trump got a bump in the polls, so maybe a bleeding reporter will get me a bump?"

  • @JamesCopeland-i1j
    @JamesCopeland-i1j วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video brought to you by the name Kunce.

  • @roflchopter11
    @roflchopter11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not that mad about the tourniquet. Yeah, they "wasted" it, but perhaps they didn't have a pressure bandage or medical tape and improvised to treat the wound. If it was a photo op, thats a little cynical, but still.

  • @kennethmahl2391
    @kennethmahl2391 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    His name is probably got a German pronunciation U where is annunciated U

  • @terryporche9059
    @terryporche9059 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who was missing?? VP Cheney & Tampon Tim.

  • @wdtaut5650
    @wdtaut5650 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:46 What do you mean "trying"? Looks to me they are already in.

  • @michaellavaughnrobinson
    @michaellavaughnrobinson วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a former FMF Corpsman that tourniquet about gave me a stroke.

  • @Spritefound
    @Spritefound วันที่ผ่านมา

    And this my fellow republicans is why jackass’ shouldn’t play with guns.

  • @berserkerok3351
    @berserkerok3351 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They are idiots

  • @Gary-zq3pz
    @Gary-zq3pz วันที่ผ่านมา

    From close range into a steel target? Truly the party of Elmer Fudd! Trump is that waskawy wabbit.

  • @victorpfendler3230
    @victorpfendler3230 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fuddery!

  • @marktechsci
    @marktechsci วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Overall I like your channel, but if you don’t want Dems watching and supporting 2A just let me know. 4:56
    It’s fast. AR-15 bullets are fast. Fast is how you describe speed.
    Quick is more about time.
    Quick
    Usually implies something happens in a short time, or a shorter than expected time. For example, you might say "We stopped for a quick snack". "Quick" can also give a sense of urgency.

  • @dustinshaw2419
    @dustinshaw2419 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe they were using frangible.

  • @Marlene-c6u
    @Marlene-c6u วันที่ผ่านมา

    Want to see what GUTFELD does with this clip...Kunce, think your political career is over...

  • @Jeffindsm
    @Jeffindsm วันที่ผ่านมา

    A tourniquet on a superficial scratch I'm guessing.
    Mike Glover enters the chat.
    Run out of tourniquet's cause you use them on superficial wounds? Go to fieldcraft survival gear to get more now. Your tourniquet headquarters.
    🚶🚪🦕

  • @ButchRichardson-d8s
    @ButchRichardson-d8s วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stupidity!!!!

  • @deputygunner
    @deputygunner วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idiots are us LOL

  • @2ndarymotion
    @2ndarymotion วันที่ผ่านมา

    There’s a lot of soy in this video.

  • @RadHameth33
    @RadHameth33 วันที่ผ่านมา

    L0L!

  • @cammoscout1437
    @cammoscout1437 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm guessing you mean fafo

  • @jeffbetts4254
    @jeffbetts4254 วันที่ผ่านมา

    #200👍 Yah Baby.

  • @SmilingBicycle-pc4et
    @SmilingBicycle-pc4et วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok Mr. Smarty-pants, how's about you having a episode or two showing us the proper way of applying a tunicate. You may have already and if so reference that please.

    • @VSO_Gun_Channel
      @VSO_Gun_Channel  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      * tourniquet
      th-cam.com/video/lg2pdpYw51s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-1Hu2OBvldMZPDkp

  • @junderwood6633
    @junderwood6633 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Click bait title. You're doing nothing but speculating things here. You're as bad as them.
    223 won't penetrate mild steel atva couple hundred yards either.

  • @dannyhale7645
    @dannyhale7645 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I live in Missouri, where this clown is challenging Josh Hawley for his senate seat. Hawley is probably the best senator Missouri has had in my lifetime. I can't turn on TH-cam without being inundated with Kunce ads. His ads are all based on two talking points. The first is that he's a Marine. The second is whatever dishonest, sleazy, ad hominem attack on Josh Hawley the Kunce team felt like slinging at that moment. The man certainly deserves respect for serving in the Marines, and attaining the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. However, that begs a question. How the heck did he get through basic training and serve in the Marines for over a decade without learning how to safely handle a rifle?

    • @damondiehl5637
      @damondiehl5637 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go to your browser extensions and add TH-cam Ad Blocker. There is also an extension that allows you to see the Dislike count on videos.

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Pew Pew taught by Alec Baldwin.

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Alec

  • @NickBlazer-cf1vs
    @NickBlazer-cf1vs วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Baldwin