SSL BIG SiX + FUSION + THE BUS+
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2022
- 안녕하세요 참치입니다.
SSL BiG SiX와 FUSION 그리고 THE BUS+를 사용한 영상입니다.
체인은 아래와 같습니다.
BiG SiX - FUSION - FUSION Insert M/S mode (Thermionic Culture Vurture 20th Any) - THE BUS+ - ECLISE384
기기간의 연결은 Dangerous Liaision, Van damme/Acoustic Revive 케이블이 사용 되었습니다.
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본 유튜브 영상의 SSL제품들은 써밍클리닉 스마트 스토어에서 구매 가능합니다!
THE BUS+
smartstore.naver.com/summing-...
FUSION
smartstore.naver.com/summing-...
BiG SiX
smartstore.naver.com/summing-... - เพลง
What more can you ask for....this is the ultimate combination....
Man your set up is insane ! They all sound good. I'd love to hear the culture vulture 🙏🏿
Setup Guide
I decided to set up a separate mixing/mastering station in my studio using SSL equipment. I purchased a UC1, UF8, Fusion, Bus+ and Big Six.
I have been using Reaper for about ten years but am not a power user. I have relied a lot on Kenny Gioia's video tutorials.
My goal was to get all of the SSL pieces working together with Reaper. Unfortunately SSL does not fully support Reaper in setting up the UC1 and UF8. So I had to wade in (over my head) into getting Reaper and the SSL equipment, the Big Six, UC1 and UF8 configured so that they would function together.
SSL's technical support was responsive but they did not have knowledge of Reaper. I could not find any TH-cam videos or other information on how to configure all the this equipment together. So I decided I would offer a few comments on what eventually worked for me.
The SSL User Manuals are very good in explaining the functions of the equipment. The Fusion and Bus+ provide no particular connection or configuration issues. They are easy to set up and operate.
The SSL User manuals and TH-cam videos for the Big Six, UC1 and UF8 explain how to physically connect each piece to a computer (in my case a Windows 11 pc). They also do a good job of explaining how to download the software - 360 plug in mixer, Channel Strip 2, Channel Strip 4k b and Bus Compressor 2. The only difficulties I encountered in this were due to my total inexperience with using iLok software manager. But the process worked fine.
So I suggest that one follow the SSL videos and User Guides. Just one comment. The Channel Strip 2, Channel Strip 4k b and Compressor 2 are VST's and it is best to allow the SSL downloader to put these in the default folder - which is the Steinberg VST Plugins folder. Pay attention to Reaper's warning that VST plugins should not be placed in the Reaper plugin/FX folder along with the standard Reaper plugins.
With regard to the USB connections, I offer the following advice. Use either the USB cables that SSL provides or very high quality cables. Do no use any USB cables longer than 1 ½ meters. Do not use a hub for any connection. Connect the UC1 USB cable from the UC1 to the UF8 “thru” USB input (which is a USB type A input). Run a USB cable from the UF8 USB output (which is a USB type C connector) to your computer. Connect the Big Six USB output to a separate USB connection on your computer.
After all the SSL software is installed, go to Options > Preferences > Audio > Midi Devices. A table will pop up. There will be a table listing twelve SSL V MIDI Ports for Input and under that there is a table listing twelve SSL V MIDI Ports for Output. Under the Mode column of each table, enable all twelve ports. Do this by right clicking each port under Mode column. A window will pop up. Click enable. Do this for all input and outputs. Twelve MIDI Inputs and twelve MIDI Outputs are therefore enabled. I do not know if it is necessary to enable all twelve outputs and inputs but that is what I did and it works for me.
Right click again on the SSL V-MIDI Port 1 line in the input table. The small window will again pop up. Click on “Enable input for control messages.” You do not have to do this (and cannot do it) for the SSL V-MIDI Port 1 line in the output table.
Go to Preferences > Options > Control/OSC/web. Under the blank window, click Add. Another blank window will pop up. There will be a line titled “Control surface mode.” Click on the small down arrow to open up another window with a list of options. Select Mackie Control Universal. (If you are using more than one UF8, I think you also need to select Mackie Control Extender, but since I only have one UF8 I do not know for sure). Click OK at the bottom of the window.
I suggest at this point that you restart your computer.
Then turn off everything - the computer, the Big Six, UF8, UC1, Bus+ and Fusion.
Then I do the following: The order is important.
Turn on the UF8 and UC1.
Turn on your computer.
Start Reaper.
Open the SSL 360.
Check that the Options setting described above are sill there.
Open a new track and ensure that you can find and open the Bus Compressor 2, Channel Strip 2 and Channel Strip 4k b.
Turn on the Big Six.
Ensure that the USB connection light in the upper right of the Big Six is on.
(If you turn on the Big Six before turning on Reaper, the UC8 will not be happy and will pout. It will essentially refuse to talk with you or do anything at all except sit there with a blank stare on its face).
In the SSL 360 software, choose Logic Pro for Layer 1. There is no option to choose Reaper. Reaper is not fully supported in this manner - er, not supported at all. (I have seen that someone chose to use Studio One instead of Logic Pro, and this might work. However, SSL technical support recommends using Logic Pro.
Most of the soft keys in SSL 360 are already programmed with commands that correspond to Logic Pro commands. Some of these work with Reaper and some do not. I chose to reprogram all of the SSL 360 soft keys. It is very easy to do. Moreover, I did not really like most of the commands that were per-programmed anyway. The SSL 360 video and the SSL User Guide for the 360 are very good at showing how to program the soft keys. I found it actually fun.
So, for me everything is happy working together. I find it remarkable that the 360 mixer, UC1, UF8, Channel Strip 2, Channel Strip 4k b and Bus Compressor 2 plugins all correspond to each. When a control is moved in one, it immediately shows in all the others. Pretty cool I think.
I also like that the transport controls in SSL 360 work. I duplicate these controls in the first group of soft keys on the UF8. I have also programmed the soft keys to do such things as save, open new project, metronome, undo and redo, snap and unsnap, etc. I like using these instead of resorting to my mouse. But everyone will have a different approach to all of this.
The outside plugin controls on the UF8 do not work with Reaper but SSL has been very clear about this, and to me it is not a big deal.
Reaper is hard to beat!!
Excellent post man. A suggestion.. Turn this post into a video where you show and tell. You already have the script written and I am sure there will be many reaper / SSL users who will benefit and appreciate
very nice demo. thank you
Great demo thank you :)
nice setup!! I would love to have it someday! few silly questions:
1. for summing do you bring in the DAW tracks via SSL ADC? and output of Big Six to the eclipse for final printing in the DAW?
2. are you inserting the Fusion and Bus+ via eclipse to the daw? or via the big six in the summing path?
Thank you
Damn! Nice! 🔥
Amazing
The Bus + seemed to add a little bit more oomph to the mix... I like it...
I think so, too. It's nice.
역시 어메이징......! 6:57 오마이갓이네요 진짜.....ㅋㅋㅋ
버스플러스까지 가셔야...ㅋㅋㅋ
Great video. Liked and subscribed! One step closer to 1k subs!
Thank you!
Good boy 👦 👏
Pro Tools user. Will this work? PT out -> MIx+ in -> Mix+ out -> Fusion Pre EQ in -> Fusion out-> PT in. Trying to wrap my head around how to use both. With this chain I can in theory bypass both modules 100% in and out. These are the only pieces of hardware I own except preamps.
SUPER !!!
Nice.
How did u connect the fusion to the gbus plus. When i press the insert button on fusion i loose all signal. I connected xlr send fusion to gbus insert than from gbus send to fusion return. Is there a setting on the g bus to send the signal back out?
참치님 그냥 DAW Export보다 아날로그 서밍을 했을때 좋아 졌다는 체감을 하려면 AD,DA 컨버터, 케이블 까지 투자를 많이 해야 하죠? RME UFX+ 인터페이스랑 SPL Mix dream 또는 Dangerous 2bus 제품들을 일반적인 Vandamme 같은 케이블을 이용해 연결해서 서밍을 하는 것에 대해서 어떻게 생각하시나요? 제대로 많은 돈을 투자해서 하지 않을 바에는 서밍을 안 하는게 오히려 더 도움이 될까요? 궁금해요
일단 모니터 시스템이 좋아졌다 나빠졌다 판단이 가능할만큼의 수준으로 잘들려야됩니다 그리고 말씀하신 기기들로도 충분히 즐거운(?) 써밍을 하실 수 있습니다.개인적으로 이것저것 해보았는데 이쪽으로 빠지시다 보면 큰투자로 이어질 수 밖에 없을겁니다. 콘솔까지 생각하고 있거든요 ㅜㅜ
@@charmchy 콘솔까지 가다보면 정말 거액이 필요하겠군요...답변 감사합니다. 한번 시도를 해봐야겠어요!
퓨전은 꼭 사고 싶은 장비네요ㅎ
서밍을 안한만 못한 경우가 있나요? 무조건 좋을거같은데 왠만해서는
Great demo question how did you connect the ssl fusion and ssl plus compressor because when I hit the insert button on the ssl fusion my audio goes off can you please help me out? 🙏
Use the send and return on the back. InPut and Output of the Comp into the inserts of Fusion 👍
wonder how this compares to neve mbp ? great video. thinking of getting ssl gbus. have mbp. your thought’s? great set up !
I had the mbp, I didn't care for it much, but some engineers swear by it....The SSL might be a tool that I may add to my toolbox...I'll have to demo it....
The neve side is good, but the more natural side is SSL. SSL for many genres.
so is the ssl fusion a need with ssl gbus plus? the neve has the silk modes for color, so ssl fusion seems more of a color box…also neve tape 500 vs ssl fusion? both ssl will set me back over 6k got the mbp prior to price increase …thoughts? thx
I wouldn’t say you need a fusion. But I have both and they work incredibly well together. I highly recommend getting both as they’ve taken my mixes to a new level.
With that said the Bus+ is killer on its own. Between it’s wonderful 2 bus capabilities, the dynamic EQ, and you can add as much grit and harmonics as you want with the 4K button. It’s a hit even by itself.
안녕하세요 참치님. 보통 참치님 같은 경우에는 안텔롭 이클립스 컨버터를 어느쪽에 맞물려서 사용하시나요?
ADC도 좋지만 DAC부가 매우 좋아서 제일 큰 용도는 모니터 컨트롤러구요 현재 메트릭할로 LIO8MK4 랑 AES물려서 믹스와 마스터링에 다 사용중입니다.
@@charmchy 오 답변 감사합니다!
I need to smoke a cigarette after that.
มีไว้เพื่อค้นหาเอกลักษณ์😊 มันคือสารเสพติดชั้นดี😅
That’s the dream.
what's your signal chain on this? sample rate ? which converter are you using on this ?
BiG SiX Main out => ECLIPSE384. ECLIPSE have insert of Analoge Input. Insert Chain LIAISION.
@@charmchy that's a nice colour sound from the big six..dint love ssl six sound I was warry.. are you running it at 44.1 ?
@@chazycharles1389 24 / 44.1 😊
Have the exact setup.
재벌 2세 ㄷㄷ
Why put the Big Six in the title when it had absolutely NOTHING to do with the video content?
This or cranborne audio with 8 modules 500 series almost same price
Look I'm not trying to be a Spoiler....but.....Acustica Audio's Lime 2 and Sand 3 and PA Analog Black Box Plugin, with an analog Rack (with a Warm Audio G Comp with Engaged Transformers ) on a great mix, going out and back into the SSL 2 + with 4k buttions in, will give you 95 to 99% of that same sound.
I know this because I just did on on 5 Masters
now...I've spend....$6000 He spent about $9 to $15,000 for less control, of the exact same sound I have currently.....not trying to be negitive...just saying with SSL 2 Plus, a decent analog rack accustica audio's SSL Channels, and a very good staturation plugin or tape imulation....you get the same sound for 50% less money, and I can keep adjusting my sound, over and over.....those look nice...but I believe I found a very very good work around!......just sayin...no hatin...just sayin.....SSL hardware...wayyyy over priced
and you got Accustica Audio Console channels giving you real sampled analog audio effects from hardware unites more expinsive than those...LOL.....
Everyone has to pick the tools that work best for them. Your option might cost 5k less, but maybe his setup gives him something that is worth the pricetag for him.
Im just so excited, because of Sand3 and Lime2 $400 in total...LOL for $400,000 worth of SSL Board sound....because most people are never going to have $20,000 to spend on a home studio.....so SSL is not really trying be very affordable at all, even though the ENTIRE MARKET is going to home studios, online and home engieneering services and self online marketing of music projects
They should have combined
The three of those together and sold a three tier rack unit for abaout $5000 they would make way more money and acutally reach the market better, but...I degress...I figured out how to get the sound anyway.....LOL....
All this money spent on this expensive hardware and you can hardly hear any difference to all the knobs he's moving.
2 are the reasons or your ears are not trained enough to the sound or you are listening from real poor speakers or headphones
@@DnBLand81that’s exactly the point! You have to make it sound good even for poor shitty speakers!
@@DnBLand81 We are making music for end customers, who listen to music for fun and don't have trained ears and most of the time they listen through poor speakers. If all those people need to buy high end speakers and undergo musical training for me to justify buying this expensive gear, i think we are doing something wrong.
bro who is making the beats??????? drop me there IG
xlogic G comp sounds cleaner, pumps less