Here is a "sonic" parts cleaner that I made. Cost me around $30 to build. In the video, I have 5 gallons of water in it. Tote: amzn.to/2PDKg4d Sander: amzn.to/2PHmDrB
Neat idea It agitates the fluid just enough. You don't have to deal with an air source for a bubbler and it is probably very low odor. This kinda works similar to the old agitating mechanism on a caustic soda aka oakite hot tank without the mess.
You can buy decent ultrasonic transducers for 7 to 10$ each today. Not the crappy ones but the industrial type. You've done a decent innovation and the transducers used to be exponentially more expensive but Moors law has caught up with electrical component pricing as well ad things like computer capabilities.
Hey, thank You so much. You sure make it look easy. I wonder what frequency or frequency range makes a sonic cleaner 'ultrasonic' - easy enough to look up I suppose - Wikipedia says "ultrasonic" is anywhere from 20,000 to 400,000 Hz (cycles per second) or multiply those numbers by 60 to get it in rpm (divide by 60 to go from rpm to Hz). A dremel tool maxed out only goes 35,000 rpm or 583 Hz. We need many more rpm, like 1.2 million rpm to 24 million rpm (same as 20 kHz to 400 KHz) to be ULTRAsonic and agitate properly to get sufficient cavitation and breakdown the dirt or rust build-up. A proper ultrasonic transducer might be the only means . . .
springs on the bottom to reduce the friction so it can really vibrate.. I am thinking of using an old vacuum motor, but still researching best way to go.
I would appreciate a follow-up -- did your approach *work*? I'd also like to know if your sander has suffered at all, or if you found a material difference between solvents. Thanks!
Just wondering if you found that this cleans part effectively? Sounds like a good solution but you mention that you hadn't tried it yet. Is it a good method to clean parts?
Yes, just watching other videos of homemade parts washers they are all using liquid pumps, I figure an aquarium pump with a large air-stone would work . The sander probably would work better though but a lot of work.
Hey! What happened to your washer? did it work? What did you see from it? I am watching several videos of people experimenting with building sonic washers like yours... It is interesting how yours is mounted to the side of the tub though. Let us know how it is going along there!!! Good innovation by the way! Don't let the skeptics dowse your fire my friend.. let us know how it works though!!!
Been working well. Still have it. Going to build a different one, when I have some time. More of a circulating fluid design. Last time I used it, I filled it with Super Clean, and water. I just leave the Super Clean in, and turn it on when I need it. Which is nice, cause Super Clean is also super expensive.
If I where to build that style again. Think I would liquid nail the tub to some plywood. Then give it 4 legs with buffer between legs and plywood. Then attach the sander to the plywood. Hope that makes sense.
So does it work i take it not as well as you thought, but side note still will be a entertaining video to see how well it cleans parts( carburetor, bearings, motor pieces etc.) thumbs up
Building it gave me some design ideas. Only problem is, it works good enough. So it does not rank high enough on my bucket list to make a version 2. Have a cool idea for a paint can shaker :)
It worked well. If I build another one, I am going to do it different. Think I would mount the sander to a piece of plywood, and just set the container on top of that.
Thanks for the video. I know they take time to make. Mineral spirits work good for greasy parts. Also dawn dish soap. Keep an eye on the dander and the dimmer box. Those simmers are bot rated for the amp draw of a motor. Most of them say that. I have burned up many motorized items with dimmer setups like this. But, thst does not mean yours will. Maybe build a fuse in for safety or a breaker. Cool idea. I think I will try it but use an old bicycle inner tube to hold the sander on the lid so I can still use it as a sander when needed. If only I still had thst vibrating table top football game we had as kids. That would be perfect. Off I go to Craig's list... thanks again.
#1 no GFCI protection and no ground on the cord. #2 A 3-gang remodel box has no chance of being water resistant in anyway. #3 the dimmer switch isn’t rated for anything other than lighting… the manufacturer of the appliances such as the sander would definitely recommend you never put it on a dimmer switch of any sort. #4 something more ridged would help with agitation. #5 unless you’re trying to hurt yourselves please get advice from a professional. This guy wants to risk your lives for views and likes 👍🏼 Don’t die!!☠️
Great points. Still use that power box for much more dangerous stuff. When I get some time and money will build a safer one. In 2014, I did not have the money for much else. It got the job done. Have my eye on this one for $200: amzn.to/3HGNp0Q
+Larry Cutsinger You realize all garage circuits for the last 25 years or so have a GFCI so that doesn't happen? Also, if it was me, I'd have used one on the gang box to begin with
Hi Joe, Thanks for helping me make my point about safety concerns. If he has it on a tested GFCI circuit that should do the trick. I would have used 12V to further reduce the risk.
+Joe Blow you are assuming the age of the house and assuming it's up to code. Hard to tell from my phone, but it didn't look like the outlet that box was plugged into was a gfci.
+sjeverett75 I was just going to recommend a GFI outlet in the control box, but yes most garaged should be protected. Just not up to the NEC standard rule changes in 2008. For example, mine is build in 1985 and the a garage has GFI protection from the load part, but does not have the outlet in the garage, it's daisy chained from the guest bathroom. The NEC code change now states you can not daisy chain different rooms like mine was done. Also outing the protected outlet in the control box makes it so if you move it to another room it will still be protected.
Do not use a plastic container, use a metal one. That plastic is absorbing most of the shock waves. I like the idea of the sander.👍
Too cool!!! I know what I’m doing this weekend!!! Thanks
Working on a one gallon wash tank with sprayer over top. tiny parts. Love the Idea.
Won't using a flexible plastic container like that absorb some of the vibration making it less effective? Id try to use something metallic as a bath.
Good idea. I've used a vibrating heating pad from homedics under a bucket. Cleaned wheel bearings with it.
That's a good idea.
Neat idea It agitates the fluid just enough. You don't have to deal with an air source for a bubbler and it is probably very low odor. This kinda works similar to the old agitating mechanism on a caustic soda aka oakite hot tank without the mess.
I'm impressed.
Need one of those on my sink.
That’s cool man. Clever.
Best if watched at 1.25 speed.
Otherwise, nice idea and video!
Good idea! Thanks man.✌
pretty cool !
Agitating or maybe the fancy version: 'kinetic pulse cleaner' or even 'hydraulic pulse cleaner' ? Anyway, interesting project for sure!
You can buy decent ultrasonic transducers for 7 to 10$ each today. Not the crappy ones but the industrial type. You've done a decent innovation and the transducers used to be exponentially more expensive but Moors law has caught up with electrical component pricing as well ad things like computer capabilities.
Hey, thank You so much. You sure make it look easy. I wonder what frequency or frequency range makes a sonic cleaner 'ultrasonic' - easy enough to look up I suppose - Wikipedia says "ultrasonic" is anywhere from 20,000 to 400,000 Hz (cycles per second) or multiply those numbers by 60 to get it in rpm (divide by 60 to go from rpm to Hz). A dremel tool maxed out only goes 35,000 rpm or 583 Hz. We need many more rpm, like 1.2 million rpm to 24 million rpm (same as 20 kHz to 400 KHz) to be ULTRAsonic and agitate properly to get sufficient cavitation and breakdown the dirt or rust build-up. A proper ultrasonic transducer might be the only means . . .
It's probably better if the bucket isn't that strong. I think stronger would mean less vibration transferred.
I use a Food Spa with Heat. You can buy a used one cheap or sometime you can get it for free. Just monitor your local Craigslist or Facebook market.
Great idea. Wish I had something like that when hurricane Maria came. I would have put to wash my cloths. Great video.
After making it. I was thinking of trying to make a small washing machine :)
you should have that plugged into a GFCI water and electricity is dangerous other then that great idea
I think it would work even better with the sander mounted on th bottom of the bucket. Rubber gasket and legs on the bucket. I will build one.
springs on the bottom to reduce the friction so it can really vibrate.. I am thinking of using an old vacuum motor, but still researching best way to go.
Did u ever do a before and after video of cleaning a part?👍
I did a very similar project it works well enough but mine is for smaller pieces like a disassembled carb.
how well did it end up working?
Is your life insurance policy paid up? Does it work?
Great job, super idea!
Thanks
that's really a good idea, maybe you could make a video using different house hold cleaners ( ammonia etc ) & compare them for results.
I would appreciate a follow-up -- did your approach *work*? I'd also like to know if your sander has suffered at all, or if you found a material difference between solvents. Thanks!
I plan on making one very shortly, I will let u know. ☺
@@f.t.w8645 how did it work?
Just wondering if you found that this cleans part effectively? Sounds like a good solution but you mention that you hadn't tried it yet. Is it a good method to clean parts?
It works well. If you read through the comments, I posted an idea for a version 2.
Can a sander even cause cavitation?
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LOL... good idea, but it's probably so far from the 40kHz.
Good video . Do you think an aquarium pump with a hose would work for cleaning ?
Yes. If you do it, post a video!
Yes, just watching other videos of homemade parts washers they are all using liquid pumps, I figure an aquarium pump with a large air-stone would work . The sander probably would work better though but a lot of work.
Good idea but I highly recommend a GFCI because that water might close to that sander...just saying.
How do you connect the wires in the gang box? Do you have a basic schematic?
+George Vernon The wall switches and dimmer com with schematics.
Nice and easy. Would you be able to put a car battery in that sized bucket and have you ever tried cleaning the insides of a sulphated battery?
Have not tried to revive a car battery yet. It is on my todo list.
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Hey! What happened to your washer? did it work? What did you see from it? I am watching several videos of people experimenting with building sonic washers like yours... It is interesting how yours is mounted to the side of the tub though. Let us know how it is going along there!!!
Good innovation by the way! Don't let the skeptics dowse your fire my friend.. let us know how it works though!!!
Hey man, great idea! Did it work for you???? I am really thinking about making one. Did you post an after video to show how well it worked?
Been working well. Still have it. Going to build a different one, when I have some time. More of a circulating fluid design. Last time I used it, I filled it with Super Clean, and water. I just leave the Super Clean in, and turn it on when I need it. Which is nice, cause Super Clean is also super expensive.
tubejim101 Any new suggestions now that you have had yours for a while?
If I where to build that style again. Think I would liquid nail the tub to some plywood. Then give it 4 legs with buffer between legs and plywood. Then attach the sander to the plywood. Hope that makes sense.
So does it work i take it not as well as you thought, but side note still will be a entertaining video to see how well it cleans parts( carburetor, bearings, motor pieces etc.) thumbs up
Building it gave me some design ideas. Only problem is, it works good enough. So it does not rank high enough on my bucket list to make a version 2. Have a cool idea for a paint can shaker :)
I dunno... I think it would take hours to clean a part just from agitation of the liquid
Should work well until the dimmer switch burns out the sander motor. Could take a long time - cool idea though.
Joe Blow or the sander motor burns the dimmer switch...
So how did it do I checked your videos but didn't show results
It worked well. If I build another one, I am going to do it different. Think I would mount the sander to a piece of plywood, and just set the container on top of that.
Thanks for the video. I know they take time to make. Mineral spirits work good for greasy parts. Also dawn dish soap. Keep an eye on the dander and the dimmer box. Those simmers are bot rated for the amp draw of a motor. Most of them say that. I have burned up many motorized items with dimmer setups like this. But, thst does not mean yours will. Maybe build a fuse in for safety or a breaker. Cool idea. I think I will try it but use an old bicycle inner tube to hold the sander on the lid so I can still use it as a sander when needed. If only I still had thst vibrating table top football game we had as kids. That would be perfect. Off I go to Craig's list... thanks again.
wolfeman351 Thanks for the info.
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How well did it work...???
Did the job.
You didn’t show how well it cleaned
Wow, that was 7 years ago. The cleaning is mostly by what liquid you use. Super Clean is good stuff: amzn.to/3w2yNjf
#1 no GFCI protection and no ground on the cord.
#2 A 3-gang remodel box has no chance of being water resistant in anyway. #3 the dimmer switch isn’t rated for anything other than lighting… the manufacturer of the appliances such as the sander would definitely recommend you never put it on a dimmer switch of any sort.
#4 something more ridged would help with agitation. #5 unless you’re trying to hurt yourselves please get advice from a professional. This guy wants to risk your lives for views and likes 👍🏼 Don’t die!!☠️
Great points. Still use that power box for much more dangerous stuff. When I get some time and money will build a safer one. In 2014, I did not have the money for much else. It got the job done. Have my eye on this one for $200: amzn.to/3HGNp0Q
So little slack with this. Thank you.
Your welcome
How did it do?
Works well.
Change your extension cord. Too small of gauge wire
I heard just boil water.? Mabey boil zepp cleaner.? You should set on springs.? Metal pan and heat heat. Not to much.?
It depends on what you are trying to clean.
So so follow up eh.. i just spent a half hour looking through CIVIC videos... for nothing. Rice that B16 up though
Id say that is agitating defined lol =)
There is no room for bitterness and peace in the heart.
It's one or the other...
what is this? monty python?
Water and electricity, not a good combination. You may ended up having a very shocking experience to say the least!
+Larry Cutsinger You realize all garage circuits for the last 25 years or so have a GFCI so that doesn't happen? Also, if it was me, I'd have used one on the gang box to begin with
Hi Joe,
Thanks for helping me make my point about safety concerns. If he has it on a tested GFCI circuit that should do the trick. I would have used 12V to further reduce the risk.
+Joe Blow you are assuming the age of the house and assuming it's up to code. Hard to tell from my phone, but it didn't look like the outlet that box was plugged into was a gfci.
+sjeverett75 I was just going to recommend a GFI outlet in the control box, but yes most garaged should be protected. Just not up to the NEC standard rule changes in 2008. For example, mine is build in 1985 and the a garage has GFI protection from the load part, but does not have the outlet in the garage, it's daisy chained from the guest bathroom. The NEC code change now states you can not daisy chain different rooms like mine was done. Also outing the protected outlet in the control box makes it so if you move it to another room it will still be protected.