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- La La Land - This is Not Your Dream: Seb (Ryan Gosling) and Mia (Emma Stone) realize that their decisions are taking them down seperate paths.
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Sebastian (Ryan Gosling) and Mia (Emma Stone) are drawn together by their common desire to do what they love. But as success mounts they are faced with decisions that begin to fray the fragile fabric of their love affair, and the dreams they worked so hard to maintain in each other threaten to rip them apart.
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Cast: Emma Stone, Ryan Gosling
Director: Damien Chazelle
Screewriter: Damien Chazelle
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I love the subtlety of him not being able to make eye contact with her while he's lying about it being his dream and what he wanted.
I thought he was blind lmao
He wasn't lying. SHE was his dream. The band, the club, whatever, that all came second. She listened but she didn't hear what he was saying. He did it all for her because "this" (her) was his dream. Life and love are about compromise and sacrifice; you can't have it all (at once). We choose our priorities. He chose her. He didn't sacrifice his dream of owning a jazz club because he was settling, he sacrificed it because he decided she, what they had, what he had with her, was more important.
He prioritized the relationship, she didn't: "Of course I wanted you to have a steady job so you could take care of YOURself in YOUR life..." (no "we"/"our").
She could have stayed; they could have talked it out. He obviously wanted to FIGHT for her. But she left without even saying goodbye, so think about how he must have felt. He gave up A dream for her because he decided she/they mattered more, and instead of them celebrating or being happy about that choice, she scolded him, they fought, he gets up for a second and comes back and she's just gone. He must have felt like such an idiot.
@@lifesunviktoriusson-kidukn6913 THANK YOU
he was passing gas. did you see how big a piece of chicken he was eating? "chicken fumes" was his alternative club name
@@lifesunviktoriusson-kidukn6913but he didn’t communicate that to her at all. All she saw was that he was rejecting his lifelong dream. And the fact that his dream was something very unconventional added to her worry; she thought he’d given in to either peer pressure or simple despair that nobody would appreciate his efforts to revive jazz. She always admired that he went for what he really wanted and loved rather than try to conform; that’s how they first met, when he rejected conventional Christmas tunes to play a tune that he wanted, the very tune that drew her to him. And now especially when he says “to have a steady job,” she’s afraid he’s essentially betraying himself by conforming to this band for the sake of finances, when he already has enough paychecks to start the club like he always wanted. This is a very legitimate fear on her part. It’s out of love for him that she expresses her concern; she doesn’t want him to change himself to be practical. He always encouraged her to just follow her heart and now she’s encouraging him to do the same. And she’s proven right in the end; ultimately he does reject the band and follow and achieve his jazz dream, which he may not have done if she hadn’t steered him back in the right direction.
The way he's constantly looking down and couldn't make sincere eye contact made it seem like he's talking more to himself than Mia, convincing himself 'this is my dream now' and that nuance on his part whenever he tries to counter Mia's argument gave us viewers a glimpse about his internal conflict.
@@FcoGabler i mean, the director must've made it that way for a reason. sebastian couldn't maintain an eye contact because he's not being honest, the opposite of mia in this scene.
and then he can make an eye contact when he finally say what he feels that he thinks she likes when he's on the bottom because it makes her feel better about herself. that's the only time he's being honest and he can make eye contact.
@FcoGabler Yeah and what's your interpretation, Skipper?
he needs money to start the club, the band and touring gets him the club. not to mention exposure which can help him later to draw in crowds to his club. mia has no concept of money apparently. when things get tough , she bails back to a comfortable suburban life in Nevada. she has a safety net, he doesn't.
Mia comes off as naive. Seb seems to have some grounding in reality.
I love her acting in this scene. So real
I like this scene as well
@@YIIJUChung v.d
Me too....the only one I like more is her audition early on with all the interruptions. She kills in that one
Most of us had it. Being unemployed for a long time and finally getting a job really makes you feel the world is pressing on you, including your loved ones, eventhough all they want is just you being happy in whatever you do. Damn this movie is as real as reality can be
Does everyone get to find their job that makes them happy though? At the end of the day you have to be able to support yourself. Dreams are great, but it seems statistically unlikely that everyone finds their calling. Or even has one to begin with
@@VideoGuy232 have to work harder. vast majority of people dont do anything after 5pm.
This is the most real and most honest part of their entire relationship, and I think the best part of the movie. It exposes the male and female ego in a relationship so succinctly.
very interesting
Its true, some adults have a hard time experiencing "love at first sight". Especially for teenagers too, however, don't exactly know how to handle a REAL situation during a REAL relationship.
They don't know what they both desire; which makes a complex relationship an even harder decision to leave and move on.
I'm not saying there's plenty of fish in the sea, or never let him or her go. All I'm saying is this: its not the end of the world.
When a person loves you as a person or sees what makes them fascinate about YOU, you'll get an opportunity to find what real true love is.
I'm curious what you define as the male and female egos. Not that I want to call you out or something. I am genuinely curious.
Never heard the word "succinctly" before. LOL! Learned it now though.
@@awsone100 you still never got ur definition damn bro
2:46 I know actors are supposed to know how to cry or whatever, but to MAKE IT genuinely look like you've got tears begging to fall from your eyes, but managing to hold it in??
Emma Stone👏🏼
its all about "in the moment" acting. to truly have that affect you have to convince yourself you are that character in that situation. some people mistake it as trying to force tears out but no one sane ever forces their tears out, they just come out and u try to stop them from doing so. by convincing yourself you are that emotional, it creates that natural affect of trying to hold in your tears and not being able to do so.
She's a great actress. Not very pretty though.
Actors need to reach to a place that makes them cry. Sometimes they need to prepare. Watch 'Shopgirl' with Claire Danes. Cast and crew were concerned about her in the crying scene, she seemed very very troubled. But a great crying scene. Great film, actually.
Guys, GUYS, the director was under the table, twisting her big toe, till SHE CRYS, it's an old trick.
@@SuperChuckRaney Silly. I've worked with a lot of actors. It's very possible.
Her ‘ are you kidding’ always kills me
Especially since earlier in the movie he says it to Keith and it’s like she picked it up from him like his mannerisms and she’s learned it from being with him and she just says it like uggghhh
i think he nailed it , and she was caught off guard
I really like how Sebastian has now put the jazz in the background, the same thing he complained abt earlier in The film, showing how he’s changed from the beginning
And that’s exactly what Mia’s pointing out. I don’t get why people seem to be against her in this scene. She doesn’t want him to betray his own values for the sake of practicality; she’s holding onto idealism and expressing her faith in him that he can achieve his dream. And ultimately she’s proven right when he realizes he is indeed unhappy with the band, quits, and opens his dream club.
I just made the connection between Gosling's "it's conflict and it's compromise and it's very very exciting" speech about jazz to their actual relationship. Interesting that the jazz music ends right as the exciting "conflict and compromise of the scene does. Between that, the long stretches of silence, and the slower editing, the moment suddenly feels so fragile and painful. And then the beeping comes in and we switch from a stable camera to handheld. God, this is such a well-crafted scene.
She's got beautiful eyes
she is like gollum from LotR.
@@billpaloukas shut up
Big and beautiful eyes ñ.ñ
HowToChallenjour she does have them Gollum eyes tho
True. Big beautiful eyes! ❤️
I love Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone. But together, they have great chemistry.
They are both fab actors but I detected zero chemistry.
Well their both Scorpios.
I wonder who’s gonna win for Emma stone
Andrew Garfield or Ryan gosling
2:40 wow. Intense mic drop. Everytime he says this line, someone in the audience says, “oooooooooo”
yeah see is kind of a selfish jerk
that person was me loll
@@agenttheater5 .. nah
2:23 *jazz music stops*
2:23 - 2:27 good expressions that earned her the Oscars
Fareed Firthouse i think it wasn’t this scene that made her earned the Oscars
@@indrawibhi6218 then what was it
@@danielwatson743 the part where seb visited her home in front of the library, not sure tho
The scene that won her the Oscar was her audition
i like the detail of him saying its "the dream" to be in his position but not his dream
The acting is beyond amazing in this scene - almost makes you feel uncomfortable. Emma Stone’s facial expressions are so real
“ and people love what other people are passionate about”
this scene is so similar to that one scene from 'blue valentine' which also stars ryan gosling - the couple having a conversation about dreams and purpose in life during dinner and in both scenes ryan's character says the line 'this is the dream'; i've always loved that little parallel in the gosling cinematic universe
Blue Valentine was wonderful. Thank you for reminding me of that beautiful film.
She's an astonishing actress
Are her eyes about 50% larger than most people's? She is so lovely in this movie it is almost like she is from another planet.
She's a real life ANIME character.
But seriously, having big eyes is a PLUS for an actress.
That expression that she made with her eyes when she said "are you kidding" is what helped win her that Oscar.
"Lovely" A word that you do not often hear. Maybe that is why it sounds perfect here.
Beautiful movie. Made me reconsider my life.
I'd love to know how's your life going now, hope it's great ❤ I want to be hopeful
@@priscilapenzo2434 hey! I think I'm doing good. Made the decision to start a Master on political science and now i'm writing My thesis. It was my dream then but now I have other dreams. So maybe my perspective on the film changed quite a bit. There are more important things than individual dreams which can be quite fleeting. The here and now of the people that surround You.
I guess it hits us differently according to the stage of life we are navigating. Thanks for sharing ✨
@@priscilapenzo2434 i think you're a really nice person for checking on him like this. It's heartwarming to see comments like these :))
God I love this scene way too much, it's so real
at 2:21 the music stops when seb yells at Mia but at 3:06 it's shown that the music is still playing, i find the detail absolutely incredible
no it reached the end of the disk so it’s not playing.
@@WooYuu okaaay thanks
@@marinaoikawa I mean it still proves your point! It was incredible detail. If you think about it, it also means that their relationship comes to an end when he yelled at her.
@@WooYuu exactly !
No matter how many times I watch this clip, every time the smoke alarm goes off I think my alarm is going off.
Ha ha! Same!😂
This is my life...and it constantly repeats like a circle...I am just happy for Emma in real life she made it
Did you made it?nevertheless you tried
@2:42 the line just speaks more truth which mia never accepted but was experiencing
Masterpiece in every regard
2:40 guilty of saying this. Damn! this is so real.
What did he say, I couldn't get it?
@@Riuytfhjklf4634 me neither
@@Riuytfhjklf4634 he thought that she only liked him when he was poor because it made her feel good about herself, which is a hurtful thing to say when she was obviously only trying to help him achieve his dream by reminding him of it
The most guilty thing I ever said to a woman was, "You have to make a choice. It is going to be me. Or it is going to be him". I have learned the hard way, as a man, to not ever give a woman, an ultimatum. Since she knew the other man a lot longer then I did, she choose him. I have to deal with that emotional consequence, the rest of my life.
@@two-handpianist4517 it hurts too because she also admires him for pursuing his dream and encouraging her to do the same. She could try herself because she felt his support and helped her so much and wanted to do the same for him and remind him of what's important. It was ao sad when he said that, but I guess sometimes whe say things like that.
When the smoke alarm was set off I thought it was the alarm in my apartment and I started panicking ohmygod
Still say the problem with their relationship was that she always expected too much from other people, and that he always had a tendency to take his personal problems out on everyone around him.
The way she says: so change the name
Such a great actress!
She sounds emotional
2:40 There are 9999 things you could have said in this situation and I don’t think this is it chief
Haha so true. I think every guy at some point has said the absolute worst possible thing to a girl at the worst possible time and not apologized and ended up completely regretting it
bro there probably is even much more things to say than that which is even sadder
And he was right 100%
The things we say to hurt each other when we are hurt.
This is an action of torturing myself because it's so painful to watch it
La La Land is my most favourite n beautiful movie.
Woah, I seriously thought my smoke alarm was going off.
I'll never get enough of this movie
2:25 that moment when...
I LOVE EMMA STONE SOO MUCH LOVE❤️
Smoke alarms too real. I looked around, thinking what the heck no one’s even cooking!
This scene
Me : Imma pass out
I was 12 when this film came out.... Now I get it.
No you don't get it. You're still too young.
Go play Fortnite.
@@TatankaTaylor
Edi wow Ikaw na, bilat ☺️
Unfortunately, I don't play videogames 😔
Bruh me too, i thought it was a dumb romance movie, i like it now
Never knew about this movie until today, and I never knew how much I needed it until now.
I really love how wistful and light the songs are, too. Yeah, I love full-throated, all-out, energetic Broadway tunes, but these soft songs grab me in a different way.
And now I know that Ryan Gosling’s singing ins so much more than just Barbie.
The interesting thing, Ryan had almost the same conversation in Blue valentine but there the issue was he had no ambition but talent. Now he is on a way definitely but girlfriend thinks he does not follow his dreams.
I don't know these conversations about the careers are so hard to touch, especially in a relationship.
Watched that movie a few weeks ago it was hard to see him like that
0:35 I like that Mia likes the music but that it doesn't matter because what is only important to Mia is that Seb pursue his dream, whatever that music is and with whoever bandmate Seb wants to pursue it with, whether Mia likes the music itself or not.
Agreed. “I do; I just didn’t think that you did.” His preference matters more than hers, because it’s his future they’re talking about. That’s a great sign that she truly loves him.
“Do you like the music you’re playing?” She really shows how much she loves him here. She can’t bear the thought that he’s running away from what he’s passionate about and resigning himself to a lifetime of doing something he doesn’t truly enjoy. It’s because she points this out that he realizes he’s on the verge of essentially betraying himself and thus he quits the band and pursues his true desires. And later, he does the same thing for her when he talks her into attending the audition that begins her career. They only want the best for each other. ❤
Ah, damn. Looks like the relationship is burnt.
All of this could've been avoided if Mia had her phone call in another room 😪
ryan gosling the best
See, here's the thing. My dad is a lifelong jazz enthusiast, and he told me the story about Charlie Parker and the 'yardbird' long before this movie was even released so I got the reference but he and I both got what was wrong about calling a jazz-club 'Chicken on a Stick' (not so much that not that many people may get the reference to Charlie Parker, but that it sounds stupid and not even faintly jazz-like, he's making it sound like liking chicken is what's most memorable about Parker, and verges on building on the stereotype that all African-Americans ie the people who created all true forms of jazz, blues, and soul like chicken). He and I both love learning and then teaching other people about jazz but when someone says 'I don't like jazz' to us we'd rather ask 'Well what do you mean by jazz, there's lots of different forms of it?' rather than force them to go to a club. My dad is a music snob - the whole family are music snobs - but he can appreciate other good music styles and knows that there's other good music in the world, and despite his faults (which he has just like everyone else), he doesn't act like music is the only decent job in the world, doesn't take his problems out on everyone else, and is no-where near as much of an arrogant jerk as Seb is.
I don't like jazz either.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 and that's your right - don't worry I won't force you to listen to any :)
I don’t think Sebastian’s a jerk, he just said the wrong thing
Dream can be fulfilled in the future if you have enough money, but without money dream will be dream! She should have stayed with him and support him instead of fighting.
This is such a dumb argument. He needs to tour with the band for a couple years, build money to safely open his club without going bankrupt and having to live gig to gig. Such an easy decision honestly. Ride it out a few years then open your club. He’d be happier long term.
Yeah, he could have explained that or she could have understood that without him explaining it. It seemed like a fight about the time of commitment it was going to be.
To be real, most arguments are dumb. It's the moment's heat and madness.
That's why I don't want to like this movie but I do. It's too real. I know 90% of the arguments I've experienced in a relationship are like this. To an outsider totally stupid.
Indeed.
While this may be how we think about it, he wasn't thinking about it like that which is why he couldn't even articulate such reasoning.
I thought this was fully musical, and I'm glad I know its not
Didn't even have to be a musical at all to be honest.
This movie is so underrated. I know there was the whole thing of moonlight not getting an oscar due to racism but La La Land definitely deserved one too.
THG _ la la land got one. For Emma’s work
THG _ also for director, music, production design, and cinematography
Was definitely a victim of woke Hollywood. This movie is a masterpiece.
yeah yeah this is 3 years later but how is la la land "underated"
@@chaupham7954 I think it's underrated. If you can make a film and get a bunch of people who thought they didn't like musicals to not only enjoy a musical but also list it as one of their favorite films, its definitely underrated. Its hard to make a film that IMDB rates 8.0 or higher, and this one sits right at an 8.0 which I still think is lower than it should be as again there wasn't a huge demand for live action musicals back in 2016 as coincidently kind of like the movie says about jazz, it had its time but its over now. Picking an unpopular genre and making a historical cinematic masterpiece is no easy feat.
You at least have a steady job boy, I have been unemployed for more than 6 months now
I mean, y can’t he work in this band for a couple years then start the club lol
Ya like jazz
This movie is so American. People elsewhere simply don't gaf about dreams.
Everyone has dreams
2:20 did anyone else feel that
My precious!
Can someone tell me what tf is Sebastian saying in the beginning?Please?
1:20
I love you baby love your acting 😍😍♥️♥️
This was definitely the "Best Picture." They had it right when they had it wrong. And got it wrong when they got it right. Quick: What was the name of the other movie? I rest my case.
Mia is the one being unreasonable here.
The problem here is communication. He doesn’t communicate that he’s afraid of not being able to provide for her. She doesn’t communicate that her true concern is that he will betray himself by giving up on his dream and one day regret it and be heartbroken. He wants a steady income for them and she wants him to do what truly makes him happy. But they can’t communicate that and thus each believes the other is personally attacking them and the words become bitter.
I am feeling daffodils
what does that line mean??? you're an actress what are you talking about??? why did that make Emma stop saying what she was trying to say??? what happened
It was a dejection of her character. He was saying she never understood him from the beginning because he is the contrarian and she’s just pretending to be like him. Because she’s an actress she inherently needs the approval of other people. That was the insult. That she’s not above demeaning herself for acceptance, and she has no right to point it out in his character
This scene was done in Friends tv series between Ross and Rachel just before their break up.
That’s not the impression I got
Sadly this scene was exactly what me and my ex went through but unfortunately he’s more happy now and I’m miserable not because we’re not together but because he left for himself
This is so influenced by Blue Valentine
2:02 2:02
2:02 2:02
2:02 2:02
Woman: Hey get a job and make money
Man: *gets job and makes money*
Woman: Why are you staying at this job you hate?
Tale as old as time.
Woman: Be hardworking and successful but also make time for me when I want. And why do you have no other interests?
I think he ment to say and wanted to say I'm doing this for us cause you make me happy
He is totally in the wrong in this scene. Just an absolute jerk 😭
Agreed. I think it’s because he knows she’s right and he’s angry at himself for not following his dream anymore. He projects that anger onto her, which is never a good thing to do.
The mistake they made that so many movies seem to be encouraging these days is that, before getting married, they're living together and expecting no consequences for that. If you're not ready to be married, why are you sleeping together? If you don't have a stable job then you can't support yourselves or a family, and you're always stressing and running around and growing apart and marriage becomes the last thing on your mind, and you're always trying to see each other when you're both busy. Marriage isn't just about falling in love, it's not about your feelings, it's about commitment and responsibility and growth and becoming better people and sharing your love with new life. I mean, as she said ''Here's to the mess we make.'' They shared something that only a married couple should share, and then they didn't even end up together. You break each other when you do that, how can you share anything or trust each other in that kind of relationship with no commitment?
It takes sacrifice. The man and woman sacrifice their time, energy and talents for the family to grow
What's this spinning thing at 3:03?
A record player
@@ChumGluzler well I feel old now that someone had to answer that.
@@thentantt don’t worry it’s not about age wise, I’m 16 and I knew what this was.
Some kind of fidget spinner I think.
2:05 2:05
2:05 2:05
2:05 2:05
i want to fight now
Why does Emma Stone look like Bill Hader here?
I almost died laughing
They could totally be related
I said we will boh work
Her eyes tho 🙄
That was...too close for comfort & extremely well done.
Why she gets upset when he says "you are an actress"?
He is implying that she is an actress because she likes attention and approval.
Mille
It’s that and the fact that after that it pauses and it’s that moment of him knowing that could say something really hurtful and thinking about it
And then he does
That’s why it pauses there
It was a dejection of her character. He was saying she never understood him from the beginning because he is the contrarian and she’s just pretending to be like him. Because she’s an actress she inherently needs the approval of other people. That was the insult. That she’s not above demeaning herself for acceptance, and she has no right to point it out in his character
Young people are so shortsighted. The obvious solution is to stay in the band for a few years and build brand name recognition and credibility, and use that to raise money to open your club. People may not come to see some random guy's club , but they'll go if you're a well known musician 😔
He was probably feeling too discouraged to think about all that
Shame Casey Affleck had Manchester By The Sea because Ryan definitely deserved to win as much as Emma did
Enough people don’t talk about Ryan’s performance. It’s all Emma Emma Emma
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❤
I said we both doctors live even in apartment love and comfortable money love is important for you money
💯😎
I think she’s in the wrong
This is a great scene. I hate it… 😔
You .ade this G and g club iam so mad with you
;)))))
She
am i the only one that thinks she did nothing wrong and he was just being a jerk...
yes u are the only one!!...im not saying it was completely her fault...here both of them messed up/....he could have just openly said 'yes i dont like wat im doin rn but i do all these to open up a jazz bar and live a happy life with u"..and she could haev just understood that' he is doing the tours because he love her so much taht he willing to sacrifice few years and making everything worth it at the end
the opposite. he was making money to fund his dream.
@@prahaladadharsh9766worrying about providing for her was his initial motive, but now a lot of time has passed since then, and he’s now made a commitment that will prevent him from having the time to open his club. He’s giving in to peer pressure, essentially, and sticking with the well-paying job rather than focusing on what he really wants to do. And that’s the point she’s making here. When she says he’s giving up his dream, he doesn’t deny it. He says “this is THE dream” which is not the same thing as “MY dream,” as she points out. Plus he’s not even looking her in the eye when he says “this is the dream” because he can’t lie to her face. He’s gotten so worried about providing for them that he’s leaving his jazz club dream in the rear view mirror. And she’s concerned because she knows if he gives up his dream, he’ll always regret it and become bitter. It’s no different from him having the same concerns about her and making similar arguments as to why she needs to go to that audition later.
I am swearing on rudolpj now why you create this band no no no body like souken
You often hear women today bemoaning how they can’t find good men who are reliable and responsible and wants to commit. Here we have Ryan Gosling’s character who is all of these things so he can provide for their future together, and Emma Stone essentially berates him for being a sellout not following his passion. Man, I’d be seriously pissed off too.
Yeah, he signed the contract to make her happy, then she throws that back in his face. I would have changed the locks in my place.
If the movie had to end with her trashing him and marrying for fame and money, he should have had his club AND a beautiful girl on his arm, and five cute kids.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Except the problem is that she never asked him to? It was infact him overhearing a c onversation with her mother and misunderstanding, hence why he took the job for some income ? She always wanted him to follow his passions.
I think she has fair concerns here. She knows her husband is unhappy at his job, and so she confronts him about it. Men often neglect their feelings and personal problems because they think they should be above them, but this mindset becomes corrosive, making themselves miserable, followed by the people around them. She was really just looking out for him in this scene.
And this discussion going on in this comment thread is exactly the argument they are having on screen, which is a testament to how real this scene is.
he shouldn't have gotten mad or said much , just enjoy his chicken dinner. then the following day call her and tell her they're over, have a nice life, and then block her. get rich on tour, then open his club, find a better suited woman.
mia is the villain, dont care what nobody says
This is facts but I love villains.
How is it villainous of her to encourage him to do what makes him happy and not make a choice of giving up his passions that he will inevitably regret one day?
They should have ended up together. He did everything for her. She was extremely ungrateful. Not sure why she was so shallow to put her dreams ahead of true love.
Damien Chazelle must have had his heart broken by an actress. This is his revenge.
Because her dream wasn’t true love. It was being an actress. The point of the film is dreams require sacrifices, and in the end much like an opener, it’s difficult to let go and follow your passions, but at least all & all, they had a good time:
nah, her dream was fame. his dream was more artistic. she moved from greg to seb to her 1st husband, and she'll probably keep moving. seb followed his dream and they both headed in different directions.
i don't think either of them loved each other, they were just the push they needed to get their dream
This scene is annoying
We wanted notebook chemistry and got very nothing of the sort
In the dancing scene after the pool party, a chemistry started coming out but not really
It’s almost like this scene was created to show off that in real life relationships can be more than just notebook chemistry and that these sorts of things can drive a relationship apart.
A terrible conversation. No mutual understanding whatsoever. Typical Hollywood.
Pretty realistic. Couples fight each others but nowadays, they don't fight for their love.