@@adonissabinorio2639 yes i feel this way too when I listen to the album but I do feel she’s empowering girls based on what she thought she should have done better.
my thing is, Mariah needs to set aside her pride and hire a vocal coach. that bullcrap that "she's on the 3rd decade of her career, she doesn't need vocal training" is not it... because the 2010's decade was the time she performed on the most live shows in her entire career. so yes, she does need the training again
"She doesn't need to prove anything anymore", i mean yeahhhh but as someone who uses their instrument as much as she does + the fact that singing is a major part of her life, i sometimes feel like she doesn't hone and take care of her instrument well enough. Im not saying she's not a good enough singer nowadays, but some proper vocal training wouldn't hurt, considering she's a self taught singer struggling with nodules
i think she doesnt need any vocal coach, that's a horrible idea. But she can use her old-self as a vocal coach, rewatch her old style singing and sing like her young ages again. Because she has changed her style a lot in 10s but its not so natural as her 90s or 00s tbh.
I think a lot of the hate for Beyonce comes her longevity vocally, she barely makes mistakes and that doesn't give her haters leeway to criticize her. She's 40 and isn't slowing down vocally so
Her problem is setting standards she herself can't live up to. She's a professional dancer and an insane vocalist but she can't do both at 100%, still she lipsyncs while doing heavy choreo and passes it on as live shows. Like i get it, she's a perfectionist but her fans need to stop holding other singers for those unrealistic standards
With Mariah, it’s like it happens in stages. Like, in the beginning of 2014 up until December 2014 she sounded just like she did in the clips you posted here, then Beacon Theater 2014 happened and she literally sounded AMAZING. She has nodules and she can’t predict when they are acting up. BUT you are right, she doesn’t rehearse properly nor does she warm up and perform enough and that’s her issue.
@@swacman04 she also fears losing her whistles but at this point it best to remove them to continue living your dream consistently than be inconsistent on performances
@@swacman04 true but that a chance while staying as she is now idk if she can get better, she probably can but in the long run removing them couldve been beneficial as mariah is more than just the whistle singer atleast to me if the outcome is keeping her voice.
Part 2 should consist of ….. 1. Perrie Edwards’ voice being referred to as damaged by sensitive fans in order to deny the claim that she is the best vocalist of Little Mix - also her obvious vocal improvement from recent years & upper belts improvement 2. Leona Lewis not being classified as a vocalist by any merit 3. Celine Dion not being placed on the same platform as Whitney & Mariah vocally 4. Katy Perry questionable vocal competency 5. Lady Gaga’s voice being called monotonous & colorless Just a few that needs to be covered - can’t think of all right now - this is an amazing topic
@@Maddie31408 ha you’re fine lolls - no it’s not damaged (hence: her voice is still fluid (legato singing), hasn’t changed drastically besides having the tonsils removed, she hasn’t lost any range(able to sing more effortlessly higher if you ask me), still able to engage her diaphragm, utilize proper breath support, no coarseness/dryness that affects her timbre/tone through even passages, even sustained vibrato still apparent with no decline, her voice doesn’t break when she attempts to add power, able to resonate and sing effortlessly in all parts of her range) - I think she needed to rest & she found a lighter mixing technique so that helped too …. Just tired not damaged 💯 But from 2018 to now - her voice has slowly been progressing back to its original state if honestly not better in a lot of areas (lighter mixing, ease in upper belts, agility, ease throughout the entire range, & more accessibility to all parts of her range)🫶🏽💯
@@JoCurKRAZE Right! Seems like these people don't really know what actual vocal damage sounds like. Btw, who thinks that Leona Lewis is not a vocalist. Let me at em' 🥊 Leona at her best would out sing most of the mainstream singers and vocalists of her generation. Rather what I hear people saying about her is she is underrated and virtually unknown since her first album. You even hear many saying "Why did she stop making music?"
Perrie - I really feel like people unwilling to admit Perrie exceeds her bands ability are in a small minority. There's no damage she just has a huskier more fragile timbre similar to Kelly Clarkson / Pink. Leona Lewis - I love her like I love Adele, I don't always get "vocalist" from her (even though Leona is a vocalist), mostly because I feel a lot of her appeal lies in her phenomenal tone rather than doing anything vocally athletic. Celine - Celine is a lot bigger than Mariah & Whitney in terms of shows and records. She's not getting the same "platform" as Whitney & Mariah because Whitney has the best selling album, and Mariah has the most #1's. Celine is much more of a Performer and her sales trounce Mariah & Whitney by miles so I'm not sure I agree. Katy - Katy's tragic because she actually seems competent but wants to rely on radio friendly, goofy inflections and animated sounds to replace technical ability. She'll be singing pretty good and then butcher a song with cartoonish inflections and it drives me insane BUT I feel like there's something ... there.. Lady Gaga - To be fair, Gaga really is a linear vocalist. Everything's in a chesty, "broadwayish" tone and she stays in her lane. That's not a flaw but it's 100% fair to say she's mostly a belter and emoter, frankly a lot of people have never even heard Gaga do a riff or use her headvoice let alone apply multiple colors.
I hate it when people say Beyonce is a bad emoter. They seem to think that the only emotions singers should convey are pain, sadness, etc. Istg if these are the only emotions they can actually feel then I pity them. Like, have they even heard Halo? This song perfectly showcases how being happily in love feels and is the best love song imo.
i honestly think that mariah pushed her voice too hard when she was younger which makes the difference bigger. whistle tones every two secondes purposefully recorded songs too high because it sounds better things like that
That why this channel calls her a studio artist not because she doesn't sing great live but because she at her best in the studio where no one watching and she at her most creative.
Christina might not be the best technically but for me I’m gonna listen to singer that touch me and make me feel something and when it comes to that Christina is miles ahead of most others in this video
She does have technique and a pretty good one too. If Christina didn’t have any technique throughout her registers her voice would be shot. Steven Tyler is a great example of a guy who could sing but had no technique and now when he sings his voice all the gone.
i believe Xtina has the technique but she put singing style/artistry over technique, she loves to sound raspy/screamy, which makes her memorable and that's why i like her.
Mariah said she isn’t performing a lot because she said it affected her nodules a lot and you can hear it a lot in her last performances. Her confidence is often very low as everyone seems to hate her and everyone says she can’t sing anymore. I totally get it, she’s afraid of failure and not being able to reach the average person’s sky-high standards (standards formed in her prime). She went through so much, it’s not fair. I love her so much and I’m very very curious to hear her new project she’s been working on since 2018 that’s gonna be out soon (I hope)
I feel like Ariana performance with Barbra showed her lower register wasn’t as weak as some ppl try to claim. Like it was moved to hear notes that weren’t airy the whole time
not the Mariah ad at the beginning- and yes, I agree with Mariah. the "vocal rest" is bs. but she's warming-up/taking care of her voice to the Christmas this year. OMG THE WHISTLE GO OFF KING.
When Mariah Carey is rested I mean well rested she has something to work with. Now with Ariana she has a really nice lower register that is overlooked because of her higher tones. Beyoncé can emote people just don’t listen to her ballads and hear it. Jessie J I love her but In her debut she gave Mariah a RUN for her money with over-singing. See the thing with Christina I love her and her voice but she’s boring to me cause she only gives rasp most of the time. I want to here her lower register, head voice, whistle register, etc. she has a lot more than just that big Etta James belt. Rose I don’t know her very well but sis got SOUL!!! Now Ms. Amon her cover of “Never Enough” will always send chills down my spine. I’m telling y’all if we give Asia’s Vocal trinity a chance here the pop girlies would be SHOOK!!!
Thing with Mariah is that during the 90s she was under strict observation, from not allowed to drink, not allowed to socialise freely, not allowed dress the way she wants, not allowed to do whatever she wants basically. While this was great for her voice, she felt like a prisoner. Mariah does the things she does now because of her past. Regarding her voice itself, Mariah catalogue are the hardest songs in the world to sing, it shouldn't be surprising to anyone why her voice deteriorated the way it did, not to mention nodules naturally worsen with age.
Call Ariana's lower register weak now is stupid, may have been truth in past but in last few years she showed big improve in her lower register with both technique, projection and comfort. She's projection fine down to E3, she's supporting down to F#3 and consistently G3/G#3 which is pretty fine for a soprano, she performs more than decently. But i'd say her lower register is quite solid for how high her voice sits. And she has very nice tone in her lower register, i love when she's singing in it.
Uh, her lower register IS weak. She is airy and lacks fold closure. A solid F3 or even E3 should be normal for sopranos but the standards are so twisted nowadays.
@@queenofvegas8761 And that is where you're wrong. Most sopranos in classical music rarely go below F#3 so why can't we say the same about pop singers? This video literally showcases her singing solid F3s and a decent E3. Plus, what 95% of people (yourself included) think is that the breathiness in her lower register comes from a lack of support. Yes, at times, that is what is happening. However, most of the time, she adds that breathiness to some of her notes for stylistic effect.
@@varunravi27 Most classical sopranos can go lower than that while maintaining actual volume and core. Anyway the point is that her lows are airy and lack proper fold closure, even above the notes I mentioned. It's a flaw. And don't tell me what I think. No where did I say that her airiness "comes from a lack of support." I don't know where it comes from, there could be a number of reasons. But it's not simply a stylistic choice. Her whole range even has an airy quality to it.
🤣🤣 no she don’t. Ppl are speaking from present tense not past. Yeah I’ll say she had emotion in her voice up to 2011 even though it started to die during the I Am Sasha Fierce Era. But her voice doesn’t move anyone just her lyrics.
Mariah - I think it's 100% fair to point out her technical flaws. They're there, between breathy / airy vocals, glottal attack, intentional cracking, whistle overuse, headvoice underuse and her early tendency to over sing. I think they were an artistic choice that brought us wonderful music but they can still be pointed out as unhealthy. Beyonce - Lack of "emotion" is hardly a technical flaw. Lots of proficient singers don't make emoting the forefront. Stevie Wonder, Barbara Streisand, Brendon Urie, Brandy, Tori Kelly ... I could go on and on, many singers opt to sound more precise and clean rather than gritty and emotive. Ariana - Ariana's lows are good, and she does them all the time. I don't think her lows are the problem but rather an overly soft & small voice. Not everyone is born with a large voice so I don't hold this against her. Jessie J - If "oversinging" were in the dictionary, Jessie J would be there smiling. However she reminds me of the Beyonce problem, people are criticizing her style rather than her ability. Christina - I firmly believe she prefers to emote and intentionally does things in a violent way. I feel that she's a Soprano that wants to "unsoprano" her voice lol Morisette - She has an extremely versatile and proficient voice from everything between belting and riffing. I think she falls into the Under-rated category with Jojo & Tori Kelly
About Mariah.. I don't know why she doesn't take singing lessons, I believe it's something singers should never stop doing in their careers no matter how great they (or the fans) think they are. One should always look for ways to improve their instrument and take care of it
@@kevinortega9314 Yeah I definitely feel Mariah & Christina would benefit vocally from good old fashioned singers discipline. Mariah actually admitted that she was far more concerned with artistic meaning than singing big ballads, but I'm 100% certain that someone HAD to explain to her all the mileage she was putting on her voice would come back to bite. Cracks, breaks, whistles & airy vocals would instantly be criticized by a teacher. Christina on the other surprises me that she doesn't seem to have much vocal decline. This is another reason I'm sure she's a soprano. She chest drags A LOT but at the same time, she may be pushing often, but she rarely pushes high, so dragging a C5-D5 isn't necessarily as damaging to a Soprano as it would be a lower voice. It also confuses me as to "why" she'd even want to do that, there was a time she was mixed belting F5-G5 in the Lady Marmalade days, so she's proven it's not outside of her ability to use her middle register. All in all, I don't feel that having a "unique" tone is worth losing your voice but then again, people regularly crap non-artistic voices and call them boring (Beyonce, Barbara Streisand etc). It also shocks me how often people like pushing and emoting even when it's unhealthy COUGH Lewis Capaldi / Adele / Sam Smith 🤷♂
@@Sloppyjoey1 Mariah needs to focus on her voice. She can improve her overall technique, I don't know what's happening but there are times (recently) when she sounds nasal/super girlish and that's not how she naturally sounds. Xtina hasn't been using the best technique through her career but her voice has been more consistent and she still has it
@@Sloppyjoey1 Adele has been improving too but there's more room for improvement. Sam Smith is someone who needs a lot of vocal training, he still sounds as if he was sick (nasal and strained). His voice sounds "trapped" in my opinion
Morissette and Ariana were accused of being copycats of Mariah but if you look at their music now, it's very different from Mariah. Even their singing styles turned out very different. I think if you're young, some of the first songs you make you'll obviously model around your biggest inspiration, or people from your team will push you to follow the same path as successful singers but I'm glad Mori and Ariana came around to find their own lanes.
Oh yeah, if someone uses their whistle register in their songs frequently, people will most likely call them Mariah wannabes. As if Mariah is the only one who has the right to sing in her whistle register.
@@U_see-ph yes I agree, Morissette is in a league all of her OWN, she's the most versatile of any of them, she can manipulate her voice to suit all the genre's, she can go from mellow to beast mode at the blink of an eye, I've been following her journey for over 4 yrs now and I've not seen or heard anything that comes close to her, she's the wake up call the industry seriously needs I defy anyone too find me someone better, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE 🇬🇧🔥👌❤️.
Yes. How can Morissette be a copycat of Mariah when in fact Morissette Amon has more technical skills and genres than Mariah. She can sing Live in, RnB, Power ballad, Folk, Rock, Country, Pop, Classics, Oldies, Jazz, Broadway, Fast Rapping, etc in several languages. Can Mariah rap? NO. Rock? NO. And Morissette also plays guitar and piano. They are only bitter because Mori can nail all her songs LIVE with clear controlled whistles and intentional vocal cracks.
Mariah - She hasn't lost her voice AT ALL. She just lost a bit of the technique she had in her prime. Plus, she's starting to regain her voice with proper rest and also a good amount of performing so people can sit down. Beyoncé - With a voice as powerful and soulful as hers, it is impossible to not hear any emotion at all. Yes, it is subjective like you mentioned so not everyone is moved by what she sings. However, it is ignorant to say that her singing is objectively soulless. Ariana Grande - This woman consistently projects F3s and F#3s and supports F#3/G3 and above and people STILL need proof that her lower register is good enough? Jessie J - At one point, Jessie did oversing but she has learnt to control her oversinging tendencies over the past few years and I must applaud her for that. Christina Aguilera - Honestly, even though her belting technique is quite bad, I personally like it when she belts. She actually strains on purpose to bring out some sort of emotion/soul in her voice. Plus, her belting is getting better. Rosé - I don't know much about her but I think she can sing. Granted, she isn't as good as the fans think but she is definitely vocally talented. Morissette Amon - Mori is far, far, FAR from a copycat. Just because she consistently sings whistle notes and belts all the time does not mean she's copying Mariah or any other influential vocalist. In fact, she's actually stopped using her whistle register as frequently. Can't y'all just leave these talented singers alone?
Exactly! To say Beyonce lacks emotive ability in her singing is practically ignorant or flat out lying because her singing brings about all sorts of emotions that move the masses in different ways. People tend to focus on negative emotions like sadness and pain, instead of other emotions like confidence, happiness, strength and courage, even seduction etc, which Beyonce brings out in her songs a lot because that’s the type of music she produces more than the power ballads of sadness and regret. But when she sings songs with negative emotions, the typical idea of emotive singing, she produces the emotiveness that moves the masses as well. She did this in I’d Rather Go Blind, All I Could Do, Heaven, I Care, Start Over etc, He Still Loves Me etc.
Morissette is not a copycat because she's the combination of many divas and with ( I think ) all the technical skills. She can sing and perform Live the songs of Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Arianna, Adele, Beyonce, Toni, etc. She sings and performs in all genres... RnB, Pop, Power Ballads, classics, Folk, Rock, Country, Jazz, Broadways, Fast clear Rapping, etc. In several languages and for young and old. Mariah can not sing and perform like Beyonce and Beyonce can not sing like Mariah but Mori can easily nail both their songs. She wrote and produced some of her songs, she sings and dance on stage. She plays guitar and piano. Very versatile. 🏆🥰
@@HOE-rv6ie Morissette cannot physically perform for 2 hours straight, for a whole week, and still sound very powerful and pitch perfect like Beyonce. That’s something probably only Beyonce can do.
Two things I can’t believe: - people criticize Ari’s lower range, when the difference is Ari is not willing to be flat or off key like most pop singers are. Attempting a note is not hitting a note. - Jessie J oversinging, there are so many talk singers and singers with no musicality for you to enjoy, why criticize a rare gem who wants to get up and do vocal gymnastics?
I think the biggest things Mariah has lost are the fluidity and consistency of her voice. She can't do the exquisite runs smoothly like she did in her prime - instead, now she basically just simplifies the riffs/runs and breaks them into slower notes. Now she can't perform full songs without having some parts pre-recorded and her voice gets tired easily - this is definitely a sign of vocal deterioration. While she can't possibly get her prime voice back, she can get more vocal practice and healthier living habits to preserve and hopefully regain some colors to her voice.
With Mariah, I am one of the few lambs who says she "lost her voice". It's a bit of an overstatement because of course she can still sing. But her voice has changed in a way where it's not just vocal maturity. Her tone has completely changed, belting range has diminished, whistles sounds very squeezed, and even when she's singing in her low to mid range she sounds very choppy and not fluid at all. Again "lost her voice" is a bit of an overstatement because Ms. Carey can still sing. It's just The SongBird who was once a limitless singer has become VERY limited. Beyonce. One of the greatest singers to walk the earth. But unfortunately 'singing' is not the forefront of her brand. Performing is. That being said, the gp doesn't really give her ballads, where she's soulful/emotive, a chance like they do her upbeat songs. Ariana. People really just didn't give her lower register a chance to develop honestly. She started her career at like 19/20 and has this super high voice. Of course it would take some time for her lower register to develop. She just can't help that. Christina. True fans know that Christina is not a one trick pony. Belting is her thing, but Christina is one of the most dynamic singers of our time and her catalog shows that.
I LOVE that you always keep your ear to the floor and NEVER give into all the stanning. I've been waiting for this video and I love to throw ALL of these controversial but HONEST opinions in the comments and love to provoke a debate. People will never admit that the best singers still have obvious flaws, and some of the less "exciting" vocalists (cough Beyonce) can still be very technically correct. SPOT ON video ❤❤❤
I hate when people act like the only emotion you can show while singing is being sad. And I feel like this is where the whole “this singer doesn’t show emotion while singing” thing come from. Being sad isn’t the only emotion to exist
@@grandebadidea7689 xtina has more damage and y’all think that strained tension singing with those damaged vocals equates to “soul” (which is also subjective). 😂 if being “too technical” means i’ll have a voice 20+ years from my debut and still able to sing those same songs then sign me up!
Actually Ari's lows are really good considering the fact how high and heady placed her voice is. As far as I know her lowest note was C3 which is a low note even for me, as a tenor (not extremely low but still low)
Well, I like to think that vocal technique is a spectrum; I personally don't qualify someone's technique in terms of good and bad, because it can be an oversimplified view. About Adele, she clearly has deficiencies (like pulled chest voice), as well as strong technical aspects (e.g. resonance, the beautiful blend between her chest and head voice, musicality, etc.)
I gave up on Selena Gomez honestly, her last disappointing performance for me was Loose you to love me... decided she may just be a bad live singer🤦🏿♂️. Which is shocking cuz she has a vocal coach but Selena has managed to give one of the worst vocal performances. Idk, it's just not clicking for me with her live performances. Don't get me wrong she may have good performances but the bad outweigh the good,imo .
@@lyd2460 I recognize that in some of her songs she can be perceived like a weak vocalist if we look at Beyoncé, for example (at the end of the day, singing is comparative, isn't it?), but I consider she hasn't got a weak voice, I've seen her belting well and being dynamic. Her singing approach most of the time implies not-loud resources (like vocal fry or falsetto) but it doesn't mean she cannot do more. She keeps on learning and has a lot of potential!
Emotiveness is both negative and positive. There’re so many songs where she conveys negative and positive emotions: 1. Lost Yo Mind 2. Listen 3. Heaven 4. God Made You Beautiful 5. Disappear 6. Diva 7. Rocket 8. Why Don’t You Love Me 9. I’d Rather Go Blind The list goes on. Her music invoke happiness, confidence, sadness, anger/rage, beauty, loneliness etc.
Let's be clear, whoever says Christina is a one trick pony and Beyonce sings with no emotion, CLEARLY doesn't know their discography. Bionic is the perfect album to prove them wrong. Of course she's belting/screaming throughout the record but the most interesting parts is when she's not doing that. Morning Dessert is a masterpiece with nothing but sexiness, head voice and harmonies. It's just perfect. And Beyonce with no emotions ? Watch her Las Vegas DVD and tell me that she doesn't pull emotions out. Ressentment, the Sweet Dreams medley, Scared Of Lonely, That's Why You're Beautiful, the You Oughta Know thing on If I Were A Boy, like ... Watch those and try not to get into your feelings.
True. A lot of Filipinos are heavily and overly inspired by international artists. But Morissette is different. Among her peers, She's been working double time for the last couple of years developing her own signature and her own discography. From 2013-2019, all she's been doing was rely on what her management and label would get her to do. But during pandemic, she's started co-writing and co-producing songs and concerts. She's indeed not a copycat, she was just someone that's inspired by her musical influences and incorporate those to her own style. She now has the courage to go beyond her comfort zone and I admire her for that. Thank you for including her in this! 🥹💗
The problem I have with Filipina singers is that their obsession to be a Beyoncé or Mariah. They are more focus on technique rather than emotion. While Indonesian singers are so diverse. There are diva-type of voice, indie voice, pop voice etc. While almost all Filipina singers have the same sound.
@@grandebadidea7689 What a way to promote your own. Great job! Lmao. Indonesians and Filipinos are like sisters when it comes to music. We're old souls. The difference is, English is our second language so we're a lot more into Western Music compared to Indonesians. Hence why most of our Musical influences are also Western vocalists. Filipino singers are diverse too but we're only talking about pop belters here. So that's irrelevant.
@@grandebadidea7689 If you have that perception and only look at this video as a reference of Filipino singers and their styles, then you're heavily misled 😂
No offense to Mariah.. it's just everyone has told her she's amazing and it's gone to her head.. training and practice will get her vocals back. shes just lazy. In my opinion
people absolutely exaggerate on criticizing Christina. while she should improve on her self control (talking about the voice, of course), attacking her claiming she just “screams” is just too much. her style is unique, and it doesn’t need to be liked by everyone. still, it’s one of the most recognizable voices in the world, and the way she uses this powerful voice to offer just as powerful meanings through her songs… we all should bring more respect.
I'm a big fan of Rosé & really love her voice , she might be not the best Vocalist but she's good , many people always act like she's the worst and bad and they also always bring other members to be the main vocalist and said that Rosé doesn't deserve it, they really don't respect Rosé, sad.
right, her singing style is unique whereas the rest of BL is normal. the only member who can compare vocally with Rose is Jennie but Rose has more unique tone.
I literally just came from the BP concert. Rosie wasn't feeling well and was super flat on Hard to Love, but in general her vocals were fantastic. The way her voice rings out when she's live hits so different
My perspectives about some of them Mariah: she needs vocal therapy, get rid of the nodules and work with a vocal teacher, leave the proud behind cause it's only beneficial for her to do so. Beyoncé: emotions are subjective, but I personally feel things while listening to Bey, emotions are not just hurting, but also joy, feeling power and others and Beyoncé can do that imo. Ariana: her lower resister might have improved, but she needs way more work, so calling her lower register weak or underdeveloped is fair for me. Jessie J and Christina: I agree with everything.
Mariah still got it. She just need a vocal coach. And i disagree with Mariah not performing. yes she has a less live vocal performance. But when you actually watches most of her interviews and stuff she’s actually been working alot and singing alot. Even other celebrities that is a close friend to MC (like millie bobby brown) said that Mariah is such a very busy woman. And in her one interview. She said that she will only have 2 vocal rests and then get back to working again which is a very short time.
First of all: 5:10 😱⁉️ I didn't know you had such a delightful upper register! 1. With *Mariah* when people say that she doesn't have anything to prove, I think they are referring to her status as a Legend eg. I've heard others say that about other legends as well when they don't give an impressive performance including her Vocal Trinity sister Whitney during her comeback, however what most don't realize is, countless obviously flawed vocal performances can affect one's legacy because at the end of the day the industry, media and the masses determine one's legacy. A vocalist can be great but the industry, media and the masses decide that said person isn't so great, that is what will stick. The Vocal Community on TH-cam and Voice teachers can say all they want but in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't really take ground/supersede what the industry, media and general public say. I mean even the young generation are going to videos of her singing completely live in the 90s and asking "is this lip-synced". I know some say it's not feasible for her to get the vocal nodules removed...well if that is the case then it would be advantageous for her to take singing live much more seriously and getting back to training from a voice teacher. If you watch her singing in the early 90s to now, you can tell that not only has her voice changed but she has let go of quite a number of the technical things she used to do. 2. I can't sit here and lie that Beyonce is as Emotive as Christina Aguilera, Jazmine Sullivan, Whitney etc. but at least she turns in the assignment. Moreover, joy (Love on Top), Anger (Ring The Alarm), Lust (Naughty Girl) etc. are all emotions. 3. The timbre of Ariana's voice in the lower register is pleasant (actually her voice in its entirety is pleasant to majority). I also hope she will use her lows more. 4. Those clips of Jessie oversinging tho 👀 She has truly grown as a vocalist. 5. If all Christina Aguilera did was scream, she wouldn't be considered *"The Voice of her Generation"* by multitudes and even mentioned by the legends of this. 6. Don't know much about Rose but I feel like the group as a whole can do much better vocally. I can't fault people for expecting more from the main vocalist of the biggest girl group in the world currently. If she works on the very noticeable nasality, her voice would rise to new heights. 7. Morisette saying that reminds me of Ariana scaling back on the use of the whistle register as she was finding her own sound, then when her own sound was established, even though the influences were still present it didn't sound like she was mostly mimicking The Songbird who came before her and this led to building a relationship with the legend she looked up to, as well as using the whistle register more and incorporating into her own sound. Morisette's new music sounds unique (especially when compared to what she started with and what most were expecting from her). One of the recent songs even sounded like it had some reggae in there. Btw her speaking voice is so adorable; it sounds quite different from her singing voice. P.S. Have you heard of the UK girl group, FLO? And what do you think of them?
FLO😌... The Runs and Hairmonies😭😭😭(so good) Renee- the most chest dominant, imo and her lows compliment their music well. I personally think she could make a great belter, and as with all 3 the runs the harmonies😘🤌🏿 Stella- the highest out of all three, but her tone quality is what really shines through for me. She sings mostly with a closed pharynx (not a bad thing, just an observation) which contributes to her pleasing tone . Her stylistic choices in singing like how she switches where she projects her notes are just yummy to me🥰. As with all 3 the runs, the harmonies 😘🤌🏿. Jorja- the most vocally technical out of all 3. The way this girl goes above and beyond in her singing to give you that extra touch🕺🏿 like her highs and her lows. Then her runs🙆🏿♂️ arguably the best in Riffs and runs from all 3. As for her she mostly sings with an open pharynx, this gives it that bright quality in her tone and I don't know if it's just me but I hear rasp🥰. As with all 3 the runs, the harmonies 😘🤌🏿 Honestly, I've heard their EP and I can't wait for more from them🤗 and I just want them to become more mainstream and enjoy more success. They deserve it!
@@KenBarbz 🥰 Thank you for breaking it down for us over here! I've seem them together and knew that Jorja appeared to be the strongest but had not watched them enough to figure out who was giving us those highs and lows between Stella and Renee! Don't you just love how they've come out the gate swinging with those *live* vocals!
@@GarageStudio7 I do, it's hard not to be a fan of them from their debut. I hope u get to listen to them more would be interested in ur vocal analysis of them.
I will say on the Rosé point. Blackpink was originally created to be a rap/performance based group. Rosé was really just meant to be the singer that could do harder parts if needed, that was until they switched everything up and became more singing oriented. Plus not to mention Blackpink was originally gonna be a 7 member group it stands to assume Rosé wasn’t going to be the original main vocalist.
5:10 that was a little trick for you! You really hit nail on the head with Mariah! Thank you for watching! and yes, I'm gonna take a look at FLO eventually I'm just more busy at the moment:)
also, as a die hard jessie j fan, yes she used to show her emotions by oversinging but she didnt have to do that anymore. her songs are already hard enough (see queen, not my ex, thunder).
Lol. Both are true for Mariah and Beyonce. She did lost her voice pretty suddenly and never got back to the same level after. And Beyonce has zero emotions in her voice.
I never understand the “no emotion” for Beyoncé did we all not listen to lemonade? Songs like spirit (from ‘the gift’), bleu, pray you catch me, pretty hurt ect the live performance of those song specifically are so emotional. The problem is people equate emotion to sadness and bey don’t have a lot of sad song like, most of her catalog is happy and fun song. Don’t Hurt yourself, ring the alarm make me feel rage and their live performances display even better because she’s one of those artists that always make a song sound better live because she can actually sing and perform. People don’t know what to critique when it comes to her so they make shit up nothing can more subjective than “emotion” lol
Mariah doesn't - and never - lost her voice, but only changed her timbre (it's normal for a human) and the ease on high notes. Name me a singer who have hard songs legacy and sing sing it thousands of time and still maintain voice. Whitney, Mariah, Toni Braxon, or even modern singers like Leona Lewis all changed their voice quickly (less than 10 years of their career).
Patti Labelle, Chaka Khan, Cyndi Lauper, Shoshana Bean, Celine Dion, Yolanda Adams are all examples of people with difficult discography & can still sing em in their original keys with barely any changes while maintaining a very heathy technique. Mariah has lost her voice and its dumb to think otherwise
@@grandeflamesbutera3949 do they have nodules, and all the artists you mentioned except Patti DO NOT have TRUE hard songs discography on Mariah or Whitney's level mate. Look at even Whitney has a concrete voice still damage her voice really bad after 15 years career, while Celine has a quite-hard songs discography but she lip-synced a lot even in her primes plus she has a great lifestyle (no drugs, no alcohol..) which is the key to maintain her voice so great. Whitney and Mariah never lip synced from their debut to their prime-end.
@@las28314 ok now thats just excuses. The matter of the fact is Mariah damaged her voice and didn’t take care of herself to where she got bad vocal nodules. Point. Period. U saying anything else is just u excusing that. Hush pls
It's hard finding K-pop idols sing without pitch correction/backtrack. All TV broadcast in Korea have used filter/pitch correction. That's why it has reverb/echo.
Every vocalist is a copycat before their fame...It's how they come out on their shell and became a legend ..Vocalist list Morissette is a very smart one..combining all the greatest legend and make her own way..That's why she is now one of the legends
With Mariah I think she just hasn't used her voice that much this year, hence the inconsistencies, she need to properly warm up and GET A VOCAL COACH! a reputable one. Her vocal rest only converted her staccatos to Legatos.
I think people approach rosè's voice like she's supposed to be this powerhouse vocalist. I approach her voice like I would Alanis Morissette. She's so different and sings her own way.
Good video, Karol! It's an important subject to balance out criticisms because everyone has their fave and we quickly pigeonhole others! BTW, how to contact you off here? Do you use Twitter? It would be good to meet up and sing/chat music if I come back to Warsaw and you're up for it. I've uploaded a song (a Kelly Rowland cover) I recorded in Warszawa on my page so here's the link if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/_Ua74M99qbI/w-d-xo.html Mariah: I'd say you're right about her being out of practice, and I'm not surprised people claim she's ruining her voice by drinking because her vocal chords sound tense like they've been atrophied by dehydration. Chaka Khan and Patti are much older than her and still sound amazing; Carey, therefore, must stop tarnishing her legacy like this since the days of "Hero" are 3 decades behind us. Beyonce: Those who remember her girl group DC debut in '97 and their breakout sophomore in '99 know that she can definitely sing with emotion but the problem I detect is that there was a lot of focus on her being the star vocalist who sang everything even when she was kinda out of her depth (Kelly had the power and emotive qualities, La Tavia was the contralto and LeToya was first soprano) and this often failed to carry well live, especially when they became a trio. You sometimes need to "grow" into the conviction of a song's lyrics, since not everyone is "One-take Whitney". Sasha Fierce put Beyonce's soul back in the spotlight without trying too hard (that's why people love "Halo"), where she focused on the lyrics, not trying to sound "bigger" than she really is. The growls, grunts and squals she's been using since then mostly suit powerhouse, Gospel-style vocalists and that isn't her style. Ariana: She sounds amazing in the lows! It's a welcome change because, to me, she often sounds kinda squeaky in the upper belting range, like an early Mariah Carey without the power. Gotta find summa those songs you used clips of. Jessie J: Seen to suffer from some of the common "I'm a White girl who can sing like a Black girl" syndrome. With respect to the non-Soul and non-Gospel trained singers, if you can't pay respect to a song's meanings you're not a Soul or Gospel singer regardless of how good your tone and technique are. With her voice she could be like Jennifer Hudson or Chaka Khan but she overdid it in her peak. Glad to see she's calmed down a bit. Xtina: One of the best voices since Mariah and Celine but never respected her instrument like they did. I saw her live in Liverpool this summer and she sang really well in parts but it was very Xtina for much of it, notes were skipped or mimed and background did the top notes. Still a great voice but needs a great vocal coach who can iron out these knots and creases. She still has a rich, weighty tone but now she lacks the bright, angelic levity present on albums 1 & 2. Rose: I don't know her but she sounds really good. What's her range and voice type? Morissette: Anyone who has heard her once can agree she's amazing. She's smart to divert away from the whistle register becoming her signature though but it can't be for one album alone. Mariah did something similar with the "Daydream" (1995) album which was full of hits but Carey's still known for being whistle queen. Didn't plan such a long comment but my music review blogging days came back!
You went to Xtina’s concert this summer, and you did not her the countless Eb5 belts, the D5? She Sounded amazing in the UK this summer. I watched all the footage of the concert and many youtubers analyzed her vocals.. what’s good?
I disagree with Ariana sounding squeaky in her upper range like an early Mariah Carey with the power but everything else I agree with what you said lol
I can understand where your coming from when you say the growls aren't Beyoncé's style but I ask you to look at it from an understanding perspective. The Beyoncé from DC, to her solo career and finally now in her Renaissance era, has obviously had some vocal growth and change. I personally find her growls to compliment her high notes and yes, they are very much inspired from Gospel! They add this church feeling very emotive to me .
I agree with all of these points. Mariah Carey has definitely changed her voice and has developed some bad vocal habits now, but she definitely hasn't lost her voice. It's amazing how Beyonce is 40 but still isn't slowing down vocally, she really has longevity! And I've always thought that Ariana's lower register is so underrated. For being a soprano, she has definitely taken effort to improve on her lower register and I love the dark tones she gives on her lower register. It obviously takes more effort for her than belting F5's, G5's, and even higher, but the fact that she's still able to do it! Yes, she definitely doesn't have the best lower register a soprano has, but her voice is very high-toned even for a soprano and every singer has a weak register but she's trying her best and we need to give her credit for that.
I find it funny people actually say Beyoncé gas no emotion even tho her music is filled with so much emotion, yall idk how many times I have cried because I relate to something she’s saying so much and it hits home even more because she puts the emotion in feeling behind her singing. That’s the most funny thing I’ve heard, I guess they have nothing so they come up with something
I think mariah think she is too good for vocal training No matter how successful you are you are never too good for a vocal practice The older you get the more your voice change and eveytime your voice change you have to learn how to work with it
I love Mariah but her Voice really changed. I think she needs rest. Or vocal training to repair it. She's a Legend but yeah Celine still has a much smoother live vocals. She needs adjustment since she is not in her prime anymore. Remember in the past even with technical difficulties she just shrug it off and sing Acapella. And her transitions and runs are smoother. Some of her performances in the past year. it's like she's getting out of breath. Sometimes i feel tight with the corset she's wearing.
Lol y’all just use to Mariah SANGING and she’s older now she can still sing her face off on a good day!!! Y’all need to stop acting like these new pops girls can outsing Mariah
Every time I thing of Jessie J it would be hard to not label her as too much…however Jessie is a artistic with her over singing and it’s her signature sound, it’s how many people differentiate her voice from others and it’s actually quite impressive
Mariah's voice is not mostly in tact. It has been severely damaged over twenty years now. She has completely lost her legato, her live whistles are shakey and her entire voice is covered in rasp.
Christina has chosen to push her chest voice up to reach her belting notes, and her choice is not to mix, as probably healthy singing would suggest. By doing that, we hear that distortion. You call it bad, but she is the best at using that distortion, and maybe when she uses her mix in the studio, the sound she produces is not that impactful as she wants it to be. Clearly, her technique may not be healthy for most, but it works for her, and it has not ruined her voice. She knows her voice better than vocal coaches or us who discuss her voice here. She is a singer, before being a vocalist, and her main goal is to move people! She is super focused on this goal, and her voice will always be there... (waiting for people after 10 years to reply to this comment and confirm that she still has it).
Yes mariah lost her voice and did use a bad tecnic through the years....beyonce is full of emotion ...have an increadible voice AND TECNIC and it is problably the best vocalist and performer we'll ever see..ariana needs to training more her breath while shes singing lower or chest voice...cause it sounds like she is always brethless....i think thats why she is almost always singing that high ,cause it is sounds perfect....yes jessie j oversings always ....and so do christina aguilera ..but christina have a bealtiful voice when shes not screeaming the whole song...and the others i think they could just do playback ....nobody cares 😂😂😂just kidding 😏
Why you all talking about Mariah lossing her voice! She is 52 years old, 3 decades of career and gave her best to all performance she had. When Whitney lost her voice when she uses drugs u don't talk about it and now when Mariah is already old Ur trying to take her down! What a shame! Mariah will always be the Queen of Music!
One thing I notice about Mariah is when she can't belt or do a high note, she can easily whistle (The whole TAOM tour is the epitome of this) Meanwhile, if she can belt, she can't whistle properly (Daydream, she dodges a lot of whistle in this tour) Not only that, but her voice frequently change like every other album.
Do people not hear how angry Beyoncé sings in don’t hurt yourself or how sad she sounds in I care or how happy she sings in love on top
Literally the lemonade album expresses a different emotion in each song 💀
RIGHT? she motivates/empowers me with renaissance. makes me feel myself with speechless, rockets and blow. cry with heaven, blue etc
@@adonissabinorio2639 yea
Or Heaven live
@@adonissabinorio2639 yes i feel this way too when I listen to the album but I do feel she’s empowering girls based on what she thought she should have done better.
my thing is, Mariah needs to set aside her pride and hire a vocal coach. that bullcrap that "she's on the 3rd decade of her career, she doesn't need vocal training" is not it... because the 2010's decade was the time she performed on the most live shows in her entire career. so yes, she does need the training again
"She doesn't need to prove anything anymore", i mean yeahhhh but as someone who uses their instrument as much as she does + the fact that singing is a major part of her life, i sometimes feel like she doesn't hone and take care of her instrument well enough. Im not saying she's not a good enough singer nowadays, but some proper vocal training wouldn't hurt, considering she's a self taught singer struggling with nodules
Mariah is one of the greates vocalist in the universe
i think she doesnt need any vocal coach, that's a horrible idea. But she can use her old-self as a vocal coach, rewatch her old style singing and sing like her young ages again. Because she has changed her style a lot in 10s but its not so natural as her 90s or 00s tbh.
I agree, she actually needs vocal therapy and I say this as lamb
She has vocal nodules so that why sound like this
I think a lot of the hate for Beyonce comes her longevity vocally, she barely makes mistakes and that doesn't give her haters leeway to criticize her. She's 40 and isn't slowing down vocally so
Bee is a true Perfectionist, dancing, singing, barely makes any mistakes. I don't know why people hate that. For how consistent she is?
@@doankimtuananh9317 i mean it's just jealousy and envy at that point 🤷🏾♂️
exactly
she plays it safe!!!
@@TKK765 And that's an issue because...
beyonce, no emotion...?
have these ppl heard of 1+1? or sandcastles? mayve i was here? ok if i were a boy?
Beyoncé makes people mad because they can’t pinpoint her flaws. She is a FORCE of music!
Vocally she’s near perfect. That doesn’t mean she’s wholly flawless
@@jetsofaqua2206 she is
Her problem is setting standards she herself can't live up to. She's a professional dancer and an insane vocalist but she can't do both at 100%, still she lipsyncs while doing heavy choreo and passes it on as live shows. Like i get it, she's a perfectionist but her fans need to stop holding other singers for those unrealistic standards
With Mariah, it’s like it happens in stages. Like, in the beginning of 2014 up until December 2014 she sounded just like she did in the clips you posted here, then Beacon Theater 2014 happened and she literally sounded AMAZING. She has nodules and she can’t predict when they are acting up. BUT you are right, she doesn’t rehearse properly nor does she warm up and perform enough and that’s her issue.
@@vocaleditz9483 I get the fear of removing them because you don’t know what type of voice you’ll have after that.
@@swacman04 she also fears losing her whistles but at this point it best to remove them to continue living your dream consistently than be inconsistent on performances
@@TyRendition or she could possibly lose her voice , altogether
@@swacman04 true but that a chance while staying as she is now idk if she can get better, she probably can but in the long run removing them couldve been beneficial as mariah is more than just the whistle singer atleast to me if the outcome is keeping her voice.
Also, the fact that she's not lipsyncing through it all has my respect
Beyonce does show emotions like listen to dangerously in love or your example resentment.
People who called Beyoncé unemotional never have listen to „Sandcastles“. That song hurts.
Most of her songs are too technical.
@@grandebadidea7689 and?
@@grandebadidea7689 yeah and?
Part 2 should consist of …..
1. Perrie Edwards’ voice being referred to as damaged by sensitive fans in order to deny the claim that she is the best vocalist of Little Mix - also her obvious vocal improvement from recent years & upper belts improvement
2. Leona Lewis not being classified as a vocalist by any merit
3. Celine Dion not being placed on the same platform as Whitney & Mariah vocally
4. Katy Perry questionable vocal competency
5. Lady Gaga’s voice being called monotonous & colorless
Just a few that needs to be covered - can’t think of all right now - this is an amazing topic
Perrie voice is damaged tho? Before you come at me, I’m not a professional but idk it just sounds like it to me. Still love her tho❤️
@@Maddie31408 ha you’re fine lolls - no it’s not damaged (hence: her voice is still fluid (legato singing), hasn’t changed drastically besides having the tonsils removed, she hasn’t lost any range(able to sing more effortlessly higher if you ask me), still able to engage her diaphragm, utilize proper breath support, no coarseness/dryness that affects her timbre/tone through even passages, even sustained vibrato still apparent with no decline, her voice doesn’t break when she attempts to add power, able to resonate and sing effortlessly in all parts of her range) - I think she needed to rest & she found a lighter mixing technique so that helped too …. Just tired not damaged 💯
But from 2018 to now - her voice has slowly been progressing back to its original state if honestly not better in a lot of areas (lighter mixing, ease in upper belts, agility, ease throughout the entire range, & more accessibility to all parts of her range)🫶🏽💯
@@JoCurKRAZE Right! Seems like these people don't really know what actual vocal damage sounds like.
Btw, who thinks that Leona Lewis is not a vocalist. Let me at em' 🥊
Leona at her best would out sing most of the mainstream singers and vocalists of her generation. Rather what I hear people saying about her is she is underrated and virtually unknown since her first album. You even hear many saying "Why did she stop making music?"
@@JoCurKRAZE yeah your right, probably more tired sounding, not damaged exactly. Can’t wait for her solo music tho❤️❤️
Perrie - I really feel like people unwilling to admit Perrie exceeds her bands ability are in a small minority. There's no damage she just has a huskier more fragile timbre similar to Kelly Clarkson / Pink.
Leona Lewis - I love her like I love Adele, I don't always get "vocalist" from her (even though Leona is a vocalist), mostly because I feel a lot of her appeal lies in her phenomenal tone rather than doing anything vocally athletic.
Celine - Celine is a lot bigger than Mariah & Whitney in terms of shows and records. She's not getting the same "platform" as Whitney & Mariah because Whitney has the best selling album, and Mariah has the most #1's. Celine is much more of a Performer and her sales trounce Mariah & Whitney by miles so I'm not sure I agree.
Katy - Katy's tragic because she actually seems competent but wants to rely on radio friendly, goofy inflections and animated sounds to replace technical ability. She'll be singing pretty good and then butcher a song with cartoonish inflections and it drives me insane BUT I feel like there's something ... there..
Lady Gaga - To be fair, Gaga really is a linear vocalist. Everything's in a chesty, "broadwayish" tone and she stays in her lane. That's not a flaw but it's 100% fair to say she's mostly a belter and emoter, frankly a lot of people have never even heard Gaga do a riff or use her headvoice let alone apply multiple colors.
I hate it when people say Beyonce is a bad emoter. They seem to think that the only emotions singers should convey are pain, sadness, etc. Istg if these are the only emotions they can actually feel then I pity them. Like, have they even heard Halo? This song perfectly showcases how being happily in love feels and is the best love song imo.
i honestly think that mariah pushed her voice too hard when she was younger which makes the difference bigger. whistle tones every two secondes purposefully recorded songs too high because it sounds better things like that
Mariah still whistles a lot. So... I don't think it was that.
That why this channel calls her a studio artist not because she doesn't sing great live but because she at her best in the studio where no one watching and she at her most creative.
@@ramonpadilha9987 whistling causes a lot of damage and her voice has because raspier and her different registers don’t connect as well anymore
@@gracentumba3750 girl her voice is raspy due to nodules
@@alonzoclarkston1781 sure as belting and whistling all the time did absolutely nothing to make things worse sure!
Christina might not be the best technically but for me I’m gonna listen to singer that touch me and make me feel something and when it comes to that Christina is miles ahead of most others in this video
She does have technique and a pretty good one too. If Christina didn’t have any technique throughout her registers her voice would be shot. Steven Tyler is a great example of a guy who could sing but had no technique and now when he sings his voice all the gone.
i believe Xtina has the technique but she put singing style/artistry over technique, she loves to sound raspy/screamy, which makes her memorable and that's why i like her.
Mariah said she isn’t performing a lot because she said it affected her nodules a lot and you can hear it a lot in her last performances. Her confidence is often very low as everyone seems to hate her and everyone says she can’t sing anymore. I totally get it, she’s afraid of failure and not being able to reach the average person’s sky-high standards (standards formed in her prime). She went through so much, it’s not fair. I love her so much and I’m very very curious to hear her new project she’s been working on since 2018 that’s gonna be out soon (I hope)
I feel like Ariana performance with Barbra showed her lower register wasn’t as weak as some ppl try to claim. Like it was moved to hear notes that weren’t airy the whole time
I agree and it seems to be constantly improving. Excited to hear her voice in her prime/ her 30’s
not the Mariah ad at the beginning-
and yes, I agree with Mariah. the "vocal rest" is bs. but she's warming-up/taking care of her voice to the Christmas this year.
OMG THE WHISTLE GO OFF KING.
When Mariah Carey is rested I mean well rested she has something to work with.
Now with Ariana she has a really nice lower register that is overlooked because of her higher tones.
Beyoncé can emote people just don’t listen to her ballads and hear it.
Jessie J I love her but In her debut she gave Mariah a RUN for her money with over-singing.
See the thing with Christina I love her and her voice but she’s boring to me cause she only gives rasp most of the time. I want to here her lower register, head voice, whistle register, etc. she has a lot more than just that big Etta James belt.
Rose I don’t know her very well but sis got SOUL!!!
Now Ms. Amon her cover of “Never Enough” will always send chills down my spine. I’m telling y’all if we give Asia’s Vocal trinity a chance here the pop girlies would be SHOOK!!!
Thing with Mariah is that during the 90s she was under strict observation, from not allowed to drink, not allowed to socialise freely, not allowed dress the way she wants, not allowed to do whatever she wants basically. While this was great for her voice, she felt like a prisoner. Mariah does the things she does now because of her past. Regarding her voice itself, Mariah catalogue are the hardest songs in the world to sing, it shouldn't be surprising to anyone why her voice deteriorated the way it did, not to mention nodules naturally worsen with age.
Mariah drank in the 90's too. She talked about it, and so did Wanya (from Boys too Men). And she was seen drinking wine after her Music Box shows.
@@Sttephy30 yeah daydream era is when she started rebelling
Well, this isn't completely true. She drank during the 90s and she wore short dresses before the Butterfly era.
@@leumamk5259 This. Wine is her water.
@@leumamk5259 93, 94, 95 once she Married Tommy is when she had to wear suits/long dresses etc cause he was a controlling abusive and insecure man.
Call Ariana's lower register weak now is stupid, may have been truth in past but in last few years she showed big improve in her lower register with both technique, projection and comfort. She's projection fine down to E3, she's supporting down to F#3 and consistently G3/G#3 which is pretty fine for a soprano, she performs more than decently. But i'd say her lower register is quite solid for how high her voice sits. And she has very nice tone in her lower register, i love when she's singing in it.
I hope you don't live life thinking everyone will agree with you and that other opinions are less valid than yours or you'll stay mad.
Uh, her lower register IS weak. She is airy and lacks fold closure. A solid F3 or even E3 should be normal for sopranos but the standards are so twisted nowadays.
@@queenofvegas8761 HAHAHAHAHA no
@@queenofvegas8761 And that is where you're wrong. Most sopranos in classical music rarely go below F#3 so why can't we say the same about pop singers? This video literally showcases her singing solid F3s and a decent E3. Plus, what 95% of people (yourself included) think is that the breathiness in her lower register comes from a lack of support. Yes, at times, that is what is happening. However, most of the time, she adds that breathiness to some of her notes for stylistic effect.
@@varunravi27 Most classical sopranos can go lower than that while maintaining actual volume and core. Anyway the point is that her lows are airy and lack proper fold closure, even above the notes I mentioned. It's a flaw. And don't tell me what I think. No where did I say that her airiness "comes from a lack of support." I don't know where it comes from, there could be a number of reasons. But it's not simply a stylistic choice. Her whole range even has an airy quality to it.
Come through RANGE & WHISTLE ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Was that you whistling ⁉️⁉️⁉️
Impressive 💯😮
That was me yes
@@aintnootherfan that was amazing 🤩
We need more singing 🎤
You sound great man ‼️✊🏽💯
Beyonce does show emotions like listen to dangerously in love or your example resentment.
exactly
🤣🤣 no she don’t. Ppl are speaking from present tense not past. Yeah I’ll say she had emotion in her voice up to 2011 even though it started to die during the I Am Sasha Fierce Era. But her voice doesn’t move anyone just her lyrics.
Mariah - I think it's 100% fair to point out her technical flaws. They're there, between breathy / airy vocals, glottal attack, intentional cracking, whistle overuse, headvoice underuse and her early tendency to over sing. I think they were an artistic choice that brought us wonderful music but they can still be pointed out as unhealthy.
Beyonce - Lack of "emotion" is hardly a technical flaw. Lots of proficient singers don't make emoting the forefront. Stevie Wonder, Barbara Streisand, Brendon Urie, Brandy, Tori Kelly ... I could go on and on, many singers opt to sound more precise and clean rather than gritty and emotive.
Ariana - Ariana's lows are good, and she does them all the time. I don't think her lows are the problem but rather an overly soft & small voice. Not everyone is born with a large voice so I don't hold this against her.
Jessie J - If "oversinging" were in the dictionary, Jessie J would be there smiling. However she reminds me of the Beyonce problem, people are criticizing her style rather than her ability.
Christina - I firmly believe she prefers to emote and intentionally does things in a violent way. I feel that she's a Soprano that wants to "unsoprano" her voice lol
Morisette - She has an extremely versatile and proficient voice from everything between belting and riffing. I think she falls into the Under-rated category with Jojo & Tori Kelly
About Christina you said perfectly.. she's a soprano, no matter how hard she tries to darker her voice. She rocks tho
About Mariah.. I don't know why she doesn't take singing lessons, I believe it's something singers should never stop doing in their careers no matter how great they (or the fans) think they are. One should always look for ways to improve their instrument and take care of it
@@kevinortega9314 Yeah I definitely feel Mariah & Christina would benefit vocally from good old fashioned singers discipline. Mariah actually admitted that she was far more concerned with artistic meaning than singing big ballads, but I'm 100% certain that someone HAD to explain to her all the mileage she was putting on her voice would come back to bite. Cracks, breaks, whistles & airy vocals would instantly be criticized by a teacher.
Christina on the other surprises me that she doesn't seem to have much vocal decline. This is another reason I'm sure she's a soprano. She chest drags A LOT but at the same time, she may be pushing often, but she rarely pushes high, so dragging a C5-D5 isn't necessarily as damaging to a Soprano as it would be a lower voice. It also confuses me as to "why" she'd even want to do that, there was a time she was mixed belting F5-G5 in the Lady Marmalade days, so she's proven it's not outside of her ability to use her middle register.
All in all, I don't feel that having a "unique" tone is worth losing your voice but then again, people regularly crap non-artistic voices and call them boring (Beyonce, Barbara Streisand etc). It also shocks me how often people like pushing and emoting even when it's unhealthy COUGH Lewis Capaldi / Adele / Sam Smith 🤷♂
@@Sloppyjoey1 Mariah needs to focus on her voice. She can improve her overall technique, I don't know what's happening but there are times (recently) when she sounds nasal/super girlish and that's not how she naturally sounds. Xtina hasn't been using the best technique through her career but her voice has been more consistent and she still has it
@@Sloppyjoey1 Adele has been improving too but there's more room for improvement. Sam Smith is someone who needs a lot of vocal training, he still sounds as if he was sick (nasal and strained). His voice sounds "trapped" in my opinion
Morissette and Ariana were accused of being copycats of Mariah but if you look at their music now, it's very different from Mariah. Even their singing styles turned out very different. I think if you're young, some of the first songs you make you'll obviously model around your biggest inspiration, or people from your team will push you to follow the same path as successful singers but I'm glad Mori and Ariana came around to find their own lanes.
What? Who even thought about comparing Morissete vs Mariah? These two are 2 different worlds, where that came from?
My dumbass thought you were talking about Alanis Morissete, because I was at the ',Mariah' section of the video 😀
Oh yeah, if someone uses their whistle register in their songs frequently, people will most likely call them Mariah wannabes. As if Mariah is the only one who has the right to sing in her whistle register.
@@U_see-ph yes I agree, Morissette is in a league all of her OWN, she's the most versatile of any of them, she can manipulate her voice to suit all the genre's, she can go from mellow to beast mode at the blink of an eye, I've been following her journey for over 4 yrs now and I've not seen or heard anything that comes close to her, she's the wake up call the industry seriously needs I defy anyone too find me someone better, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE 🇬🇧🔥👌❤️.
Yes. How can Morissette be a copycat of Mariah when in fact Morissette Amon has more technical skills and genres than Mariah. She can sing Live in, RnB, Power ballad, Folk, Rock, Country, Pop, Classics, Oldies, Jazz, Broadway, Fast Rapping, etc in several languages. Can Mariah rap? NO. Rock? NO. And Morissette also plays guitar and piano. They are only bitter because Mori can nail all her songs LIVE with clear controlled whistles and intentional vocal cracks.
Great video and sick whistle tone! All round pretty accurate statements especially Beyoncé's and Rosé's
Mariah - She hasn't lost her voice AT ALL. She just lost a bit of the technique she had in her prime. Plus, she's starting to regain her voice with proper rest and also a good amount of performing so people can sit down.
Beyoncé - With a voice as powerful and soulful as hers, it is impossible to not hear any emotion at all. Yes, it is subjective like you mentioned so not everyone is moved by what she sings. However, it is ignorant to say that her singing is objectively soulless.
Ariana Grande - This woman consistently projects F3s and F#3s and supports F#3/G3 and above and people STILL need proof that her lower register is good enough?
Jessie J - At one point, Jessie did oversing but she has learnt to control her oversinging tendencies over the past few years and I must applaud her for that.
Christina Aguilera - Honestly, even though her belting technique is quite bad, I personally like it when she belts. She actually strains on purpose to bring out some sort of emotion/soul in her voice. Plus, her belting is getting better.
Rosé - I don't know much about her but I think she can sing. Granted, she isn't as good as the fans think but she is definitely vocally talented.
Morissette Amon - Mori is far, far, FAR from a copycat. Just because she consistently sings whistle notes and belts all the time does not mean she's copying Mariah or any other influential vocalist. In fact, she's actually stopped using her whistle register as frequently.
Can't y'all just leave these talented singers alone?
Exactly! To say Beyonce lacks emotive ability in her singing is practically ignorant or flat out lying because her singing brings about all sorts of emotions that move the masses in different ways.
People tend to focus on negative emotions like sadness and pain, instead of other emotions like confidence, happiness, strength and courage, even seduction etc, which Beyonce brings out in her songs a lot because that’s the type of music she produces more than the power ballads of sadness and regret.
But when she sings songs with negative emotions, the typical idea of emotive singing, she produces the emotiveness that moves the masses as well. She did this in I’d Rather Go Blind, All I Could Do, Heaven, I Care, Start Over etc, He Still Loves Me etc.
Thank you for writing down whats in video
Morissette is not a copycat because she's the combination of many divas and with ( I think ) all the technical skills. She can sing and perform Live the songs of Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Arianna, Adele, Beyonce, Toni, etc. She sings and performs in all genres... RnB, Pop, Power Ballads, classics, Folk, Rock, Country, Jazz, Broadways, Fast clear Rapping, etc. In several languages and for young and old. Mariah can not sing and perform like Beyonce and Beyonce can not sing like Mariah but Mori can easily nail both their songs. She wrote and produced some of her songs, she sings and dance on stage. She plays guitar and piano. Very versatile. 🏆🥰
@@HOE-rv6ie Morissette cannot physically perform for 2 hours straight, for a whole week, and still sound very powerful and pitch perfect like Beyonce. That’s something probably only Beyonce can do.
Oh wow 😯
This video was amazing - I smell a series coming on …..
Two things I can’t believe:
- people criticize Ari’s lower range, when the difference is Ari is not willing to be flat or off key like most pop singers are. Attempting a note is not hitting a note.
- Jessie J oversinging, there are so many talk singers and singers with no musicality for you to enjoy, why criticize a rare gem who wants to get up and do vocal gymnastics?
I think the biggest things Mariah has lost are the fluidity and consistency of her voice. She can't do the exquisite runs smoothly like she did in her prime - instead, now she basically just simplifies the riffs/runs and breaks them into slower notes. Now she can't perform full songs without having some parts pre-recorded and her voice gets tired easily - this is definitely a sign of vocal deterioration. While she can't possibly get her prime voice back, she can get more vocal practice and healthier living habits to preserve and hopefully regain some colors to her voice.
With Mariah, I am one of the few lambs who says she "lost her voice". It's a bit of an overstatement because of course she can still sing. But her voice has changed in a way where it's not just vocal maturity. Her tone has completely changed, belting range has diminished, whistles sounds very squeezed, and even when she's singing in her low to mid range she sounds very choppy and not fluid at all. Again "lost her voice" is a bit of an overstatement because Ms. Carey can still sing. It's just The SongBird who was once a limitless singer has become VERY limited.
Beyonce. One of the greatest singers to walk the earth. But unfortunately 'singing' is not the forefront of her brand. Performing is. That being said, the gp doesn't really give her ballads, where she's soulful/emotive, a chance like they do her upbeat songs.
Ariana. People really just didn't give her lower register a chance to develop honestly. She started her career at like 19/20 and has this super high voice. Of course it would take some time for her lower register to develop. She just can't help that.
Christina. True fans know that Christina is not a one trick pony. Belting is her thing, but Christina is one of the most dynamic singers of our time and her catalog shows that.
I LOVE that you always keep your ear to the floor and NEVER give into all the stanning. I've been waiting for this video and I love to throw ALL of these controversial but HONEST opinions in the comments and love to provoke a debate. People will never admit that the best singers still have obvious flaws, and some of the less "exciting" vocalists (cough Beyonce) can still be very technically correct. SPOT ON video ❤❤❤
I hate when people act like the only emotion you can show while singing is being sad. And I feel like this is where the whole “this singer doesn’t show emotion while singing” thing come from. Being sad isn’t the only emotion to exist
true
@baque strength, hurt, sadness, anger, love, passion, defiance do you need more?
Beyoncé is too technical and it shows. Xtina has more soul.
@@grandebadidea7689 xtina has more damage and y’all think that strained tension singing with those damaged vocals equates to “soul” (which is also subjective). 😂 if being “too technical” means i’ll have a voice 20+ years from my debut and still able to sing those same songs then sign me up!
@@ayyynooo3163 stop lying. i know being behive is equals to idiot
They also critiqued Mariah in her prime: when there were no technical issues, they were complaining about her emotiveness/or lack thereof 🙄
Actually Ari's lows are really good considering the fact how high and heady placed her voice is. As far as I know her lowest note was C3 which is a low note even for me, as a tenor (not extremely low but still low)
I loved this video! I'd like a part 2 with Adele (Bad vocal technique?), Selena Gomez (Weak voice?), Jennifer Hudson (Screaming/Not dynamic?)
do you think Adele doesn’t have bad technique?
Selena gomez is a weak vocalist
Well, I like to think that vocal technique is a spectrum; I personally don't qualify someone's technique in terms of good and bad, because it can be an oversimplified view. About Adele, she clearly has deficiencies (like pulled chest voice), as well as strong technical aspects (e.g. resonance, the beautiful blend between her chest and head voice, musicality, etc.)
I gave up on Selena Gomez honestly, her last disappointing performance for me was Loose you to love me... decided she may just be a bad live singer🤦🏿♂️. Which is shocking cuz she has a vocal coach but Selena has managed to give one of the worst vocal performances. Idk, it's just not clicking for me with her live performances. Don't get me wrong she may have good performances but the bad outweigh the good,imo .
@@lyd2460 I recognize that in some of her songs she can be perceived like a weak vocalist if we look at Beyoncé, for example (at the end of the day, singing is comparative, isn't it?), but I consider she hasn't got a weak voice, I've seen her belting well and being dynamic. Her singing approach most of the time implies not-loud resources (like vocal fry or falsetto) but it doesn't mean she cannot do more. She keeps on learning and has a lot of potential!
People that think Beyoncè can’t convey emotion should listen to her song Sandcastles.
Emotiveness is both negative and positive. There’re so many songs where she conveys negative and positive emotions:
1. Lost Yo Mind
2. Listen
3. Heaven
4. God Made You Beautiful
5. Disappear
6. Diva
7. Rocket
8. Why Don’t You Love Me
9. I’d Rather Go Blind
The list goes on. Her music invoke happiness, confidence, sadness, anger/rage, beauty, loneliness etc.
Let's be clear, whoever says Christina is a one trick pony and Beyonce sings with no emotion, CLEARLY doesn't know their discography.
Bionic is the perfect album to prove them wrong. Of course she's belting/screaming throughout the record but the most interesting parts is when she's not doing that. Morning Dessert is a masterpiece with nothing but sexiness, head voice and harmonies. It's just perfect. And Beyonce with no emotions ? Watch her Las Vegas DVD and tell me that she doesn't pull emotions out. Ressentment, the Sweet Dreams medley, Scared Of Lonely, That's Why You're Beautiful, the You Oughta Know thing on If I Were A Boy, like ... Watch those and try not to get into your feelings.
Mariah is still slaying now
Stop lying. She sounds rough and harsh.
@@grandebadidea7689 shame onto you
@@vitaliscarey mariah sounds like dying goat
Lies
True. A lot of Filipinos are heavily and overly inspired by international artists. But Morissette is different. Among her peers, She's been working double time for the last couple of years developing her own signature and her own discography.
From 2013-2019, all she's been doing was rely on what her management and label would get her to do. But during pandemic, she's started co-writing and co-producing songs and concerts.
She's indeed not a copycat, she was just someone that's inspired by her musical influences and incorporate those to her own style.
She now has the courage to go beyond her comfort zone and I admire her for that.
Thank you for including her in this! 🥹💗
The problem I have with Filipina singers is that their obsession to be a Beyoncé or Mariah. They are more focus on technique rather than emotion. While Indonesian singers are so diverse. There are diva-type of voice, indie voice, pop voice etc. While almost all Filipina singers have the same sound.
@@grandebadidea7689 What a way to promote your own. Great job! Lmao.
Indonesians and Filipinos are like sisters when it comes to music. We're old souls.
The difference is, English is our second language so we're a lot more into Western Music compared to Indonesians. Hence why most of our Musical influences are also Western vocalists.
Filipino singers are diverse too but we're only talking about pop belters here. So that's irrelevant.
@@grandebadidea7689 If you have that perception and only look at this video as a reference of Filipino singers and their styles, then you're heavily misled 😂
Mariah Carey talent is totally different 💯
MC is the voice forever 💯
5:10 cassually hits an effortless run and a C#6* excuse me... What!
I love the fact that Morissette is recognized in many videos, she is getting closer to really get the credit she deserves.
I love this video and i agree with you regarding Mariah
No offense to Mariah.. it's just everyone has told her she's amazing and it's gone to her head.. training and practice will get her vocals back. shes just lazy. In my opinion
Damn, not expecting those vocals at 5:10! 👏
it was random haha but thank you!
people absolutely exaggerate on criticizing Christina. while she should improve on her self control (talking about the voice, of course), attacking her claiming she just “screams” is just too much. her style is unique, and it doesn’t need to be liked by everyone. still, it’s one of the most recognizable voices in the world, and the way she uses this powerful voice to offer just as powerful meanings through her songs… we all should bring more respect.
Maybe Mariah gets scared of voice teachers because they remind her of her mom🧐.
I'm a big fan of Rosé & really love her voice , she might be not the best Vocalist but she's good , many people always act like she's the worst and bad and they also always bring other members to be the main vocalist and said that Rosé doesn't deserve it, they really don't respect Rosé, sad.
I really love Rosé voice and the way she put emotions in everything she sings, wishing a full solo album
@@pixiegabi07 sameeee
right, her singing style is unique whereas the rest of BL is normal. the only member who can compare vocally with Rose is Jennie but Rose has more unique tone.
I don’t care what anyone else thinks. Mariah Carey in her prime was the greatest singer who’s ever lived. (My opinion)
Holy crap I’m the first view again!!!!
Videos on male vocalists?
All Mariah do is sing Christmas songs. Ok. I love them, but.. come on now..
I literally just came from the BP concert. Rosie wasn't feeling well and was super flat on Hard to Love, but in general her vocals were fantastic. The way her voice rings out when she's live hits so different
I was just there too 😌
Lucky you! I was supposed to go to Berlin to see them but school schedule won't let me
My perspectives about some of them
Mariah: she needs vocal therapy, get rid of the nodules and work with a vocal teacher, leave the proud behind cause it's only beneficial for her to do so.
Beyoncé: emotions are subjective, but I personally feel things while listening to Bey, emotions are not just hurting, but also joy, feeling power and others and Beyoncé can do that imo.
Ariana: her lower resister might have improved, but she needs way more work, so calling her lower register weak or underdeveloped is fair for me.
Jessie J and Christina: I agree with everything.
I did not expect that whistle go off king 😭😭😭
Mariah still got it. She just need a vocal coach. And i disagree with Mariah not performing. yes she has a less live vocal performance. But when you actually watches most of her interviews and stuff she’s actually been working alot and singing alot. Even other celebrities that is a close friend to MC (like millie bobby brown) said that Mariah is such a very busy woman. And in her one interview. She said that she will only have 2 vocal rests and then get back to working again which is a very short time.
Yass she singing on studio a lot 😭
@@thelegendofmimi3151 yasss. And also she’s probably doing some random accapella moments.
5:08 YOU BETTER SINGG!!! 🤬🤬👞
First of all: 5:10 😱⁉️
I didn't know you had such a delightful upper register!
1. With *Mariah* when people say that she doesn't have anything to prove, I think they are referring to her status as a Legend eg. I've heard others say that about other legends as well when they don't give an impressive performance including her Vocal Trinity sister Whitney during her comeback, however what most don't realize is, countless obviously flawed vocal performances can affect one's legacy because at the end of the day the industry, media and the masses determine one's legacy. A vocalist can be great but the industry, media and the masses decide that said person isn't so great, that is what will stick. The Vocal Community on TH-cam and Voice teachers can say all they want but in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't really take ground/supersede what the industry, media and general public say. I mean even the young generation are going to videos of her singing completely live in the 90s and asking "is this lip-synced".
I know some say it's not feasible for her to get the vocal nodules removed...well if that is the case then it would be advantageous for her to take singing live much more seriously and getting back to training from a voice teacher. If you watch her singing in the early 90s to now, you can tell that not only has her voice changed but she has let go of quite a number of the technical things she used to do.
2. I can't sit here and lie that Beyonce is as Emotive as Christina Aguilera, Jazmine Sullivan, Whitney etc. but at least she turns in the assignment. Moreover, joy (Love on Top), Anger (Ring The Alarm), Lust (Naughty Girl) etc. are all emotions.
3. The timbre of Ariana's voice in the lower register is pleasant (actually her voice in its entirety is pleasant to majority). I also hope she will use her lows more.
4. Those clips of Jessie oversinging tho 👀
She has truly grown as a vocalist.
5. If all Christina Aguilera did was scream, she wouldn't be considered *"The Voice of her Generation"* by multitudes and even mentioned by the legends of this.
6. Don't know much about Rose but I feel like the group as a whole can do much better vocally. I can't fault people for expecting more from the main vocalist of the biggest girl group in the world currently. If she works on the very noticeable nasality, her voice would rise to new heights.
7. Morisette saying that reminds me of Ariana scaling back on the use of the whistle register as she was finding her own sound, then when her own sound was established, even though the influences were still present it didn't sound like she was mostly mimicking The Songbird who came before her and this led to building a relationship with the legend she looked up to, as well as using the whistle register more and incorporating into her own sound.
Morisette's new music sounds unique (especially when compared to what she started with and what most were expecting from her). One of the recent songs even sounded like it had some reggae in there.
Btw her speaking voice is so adorable; it sounds quite different from her singing voice.
P.S. Have you heard of the UK girl group, FLO? And what do you think of them?
FLO😌...
The Runs and Hairmonies😭😭😭(so good)
Renee- the most chest dominant, imo and her lows compliment their music well. I personally think she could make a great belter, and as with all 3 the runs the harmonies😘🤌🏿
Stella- the highest out of all three, but her tone quality is what really shines through for me. She sings mostly with a closed pharynx (not a bad thing, just an observation) which contributes to her pleasing tone . Her stylistic choices in singing like how she switches where she projects her notes are just yummy to me🥰. As with all 3 the runs, the harmonies 😘🤌🏿.
Jorja- the most vocally technical out of all 3. The way this girl goes above and beyond in her singing to give you that extra touch🕺🏿 like her highs and her lows. Then her runs🙆🏿♂️ arguably the best in Riffs and runs from all 3. As for her she mostly sings with an open pharynx, this gives it that bright quality in her tone and I don't know if it's just me but I hear rasp🥰. As with all 3 the runs, the harmonies 😘🤌🏿
Honestly, I've heard their EP and I can't wait for more from them🤗 and I just want them to become more mainstream and enjoy more success. They deserve it!
@@KenBarbz 🥰
Thank you for breaking it down for us over here! I've seem them together and knew that Jorja appeared to be the strongest but had not watched them enough to figure out who was giving us those highs and lows between Stella and Renee!
Don't you just love how they've come out the gate swinging with those *live* vocals!
@@GarageStudio7 I do, it's hard not to be a fan of them from their debut. I hope u get to listen to them more would be interested in ur vocal analysis of them.
I will say on the Rosé point. Blackpink was originally created to be a rap/performance based group. Rosé was really just meant to be the singer that could do harder parts if needed, that was until they switched everything up and became more singing oriented. Plus not to mention Blackpink was originally gonna be a 7 member group it stands to assume Rosé wasn’t going to be the original main vocalist.
5:10 that was a little trick for you!
You really hit nail on the head with Mariah!
Thank you for watching!
and yes, I'm gonna take a look at FLO eventually I'm just more busy at the moment:)
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say Beyoncé doesn’t have emotion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Firstly, I AM WAITING FOR THE VOCAL COVER VIDEO. Secondly, have you ever heard about Shinee or Spica? They have very interesting vocals
People calling others the best vocalists in kpop when they clearly haven't even heard Onew or Jjong.
Spica is fantastic too
This is such a good judgement video sir. And thank you again for including Mori. All of them are amazing vocalist period. 😊
also, as a die hard jessie j fan, yes she used to show her emotions by oversinging
but she didnt have to do that anymore. her songs are already hard enough (see queen, not my ex, thunder).
Lol. Both are true for Mariah and Beyonce. She did lost her voice pretty suddenly and never got back to the same level after. And Beyonce has zero emotions in her voice.
I never understand the “no emotion” for Beyoncé did we all not listen to lemonade? Songs like spirit (from ‘the gift’), bleu, pray you catch me, pretty hurt ect the live performance of those song specifically are so emotional. The problem is people equate emotion to sadness and bey don’t have a lot of sad song like, most of her catalog is happy and fun song. Don’t Hurt yourself, ring the alarm make me feel rage and their live performances display even better because she’s one of those artists that always make a song sound better live because she can actually sing and perform. People don’t know what to critique when it comes to her so they make shit up nothing can more subjective than “emotion” lol
Aris lower register is sooo soothing❤️❤️
Mariah doesn't - and never - lost her voice, but only changed her timbre (it's normal for a human) and the ease on high notes.
Name me a singer who have hard songs legacy and sing sing it thousands of time and still maintain voice.
Whitney, Mariah, Toni Braxon, or even modern singers like Leona Lewis all changed their voice quickly (less than 10 years of their career).
Well, Celine still exists.
Patti Labelle, Chaka Khan, Cyndi Lauper, Shoshana Bean, Celine Dion, Yolanda Adams are all examples of people with difficult discography & can still sing em in their original keys with barely any changes while maintaining a very heathy technique. Mariah has lost her voice and its dumb to think otherwise
@@grandeflamesbutera3949 do they have nodules, and all the artists you mentioned except Patti DO NOT have TRUE hard songs discography on Mariah or Whitney's level mate. Look at even Whitney has a concrete voice still damage her voice really bad after 15 years career, while Celine has a quite-hard songs discography but she lip-synced a lot even in her primes plus she has a great lifestyle (no drugs, no alcohol..) which is the key to maintain her voice so great. Whitney and Mariah never lip synced from their debut to their prime-end.
@@las28314 ok now thats just excuses. The matter of the fact is Mariah damaged her voice and didn’t take care of herself to where she got bad vocal nodules. Point. Period. U saying anything else is just u excusing that. Hush pls
I could not even listen to Mariah anymore!!! B can sing and take you to church any day. Ari could teach Mariah!!!
Can I ask your opinion on IU? I think she's amazing and I was just wondering your opinion on her, since I've never seen you talk about k-pop soloist.
It's hard finding K-pop idols sing without pitch correction/backtrack. All TV broadcast in Korea have used filter/pitch correction. That's why it has reverb/echo.
Every vocalist is a copycat before their fame...It's how they come out on their shell and became a legend ..Vocalist list Morissette is a very smart one..combining all the greatest legend and make her own way..That's why she is now one of the legends
5:12 did you just do a whistle?
haha yep!
@@aintnootherfan Oh wow... what's your range?
With Mariah I think she just hasn't used her voice that much this year, hence the inconsistencies, she need to properly warm up and GET A VOCAL COACH! a reputable one. Her vocal rest only converted her staccatos to Legatos.
Mariah is a real pain to listen to 😒
ariana's lower register sounds really good now though
I think people approach rosè's voice like she's supposed to be this powerhouse vocalist. I approach her voice like I would Alanis Morissette. She's so different and sings her own way.
Good video, Karol! It's an important subject to balance out criticisms because everyone has their fave and we quickly pigeonhole others! BTW, how to contact you off here? Do you use Twitter? It would be good to meet up and sing/chat music if I come back to Warsaw and you're up for it. I've uploaded a song (a Kelly Rowland cover) I recorded in Warszawa on my page so here's the link if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/_Ua74M99qbI/w-d-xo.html
Mariah: I'd say you're right about her being out of practice, and I'm not surprised people claim she's ruining her voice by drinking because her vocal chords sound tense like they've been atrophied by dehydration. Chaka Khan and Patti are much older than her and still sound amazing; Carey, therefore, must stop tarnishing her legacy like this since the days of "Hero" are 3 decades behind us.
Beyonce: Those who remember her girl group DC debut in '97 and their breakout sophomore in '99 know that she can definitely sing with emotion but the problem I detect is that there was a lot of focus on her being the star vocalist who sang everything even when she was kinda out of her depth (Kelly had the power and emotive qualities, La Tavia was the contralto and LeToya was first soprano) and this often failed to carry well live, especially when they became a trio. You sometimes need to "grow" into the conviction of a song's lyrics, since not everyone is "One-take Whitney". Sasha Fierce put Beyonce's soul back in the spotlight without trying too hard (that's why people love "Halo"), where she focused on the lyrics, not trying to sound "bigger" than she really is. The growls, grunts and squals she's been using since then mostly suit powerhouse, Gospel-style vocalists and that isn't her style.
Ariana: She sounds amazing in the lows! It's a welcome change because, to me, she often sounds kinda squeaky in the upper belting range, like an early Mariah Carey without the power. Gotta find summa those songs you used clips of.
Jessie J: Seen to suffer from some of the common "I'm a White girl who can sing like a Black girl" syndrome. With respect to the non-Soul and non-Gospel trained singers, if you can't pay respect to a song's meanings you're not a Soul or Gospel singer regardless of how good your tone and technique are. With her voice she could be like Jennifer Hudson or Chaka Khan but she overdid it in her peak. Glad to see she's calmed down a bit.
Xtina: One of the best voices since Mariah and Celine but never respected her instrument like they did. I saw her live in Liverpool this summer and she sang really well in parts but it was very Xtina for much of it, notes were skipped or mimed and background did the top notes. Still a great voice but needs a great vocal coach who can iron out these knots and creases. She still has a rich, weighty tone but now she lacks the bright, angelic levity present on albums 1 & 2.
Rose: I don't know her but she sounds really good. What's her range and voice type?
Morissette: Anyone who has heard her once can agree she's amazing. She's smart to divert away from the whistle register becoming her signature though but it can't be for one album alone. Mariah did something similar with the "Daydream" (1995) album which was full of hits but Carey's still known for being whistle queen.
Didn't plan such a long comment but my music review blogging days came back!
You went to Xtina’s concert this summer, and you did not her the countless Eb5 belts, the D5? She Sounded amazing in the UK this summer. I watched all the footage of the concert and many youtubers analyzed her vocals.. what’s good?
I disagree with Ariana sounding squeaky in her upper range like an early Mariah Carey with the power but everything else I agree with what you said lol
I can understand where your coming from when you say the growls aren't Beyoncé's style but I ask you to look at it from an understanding perspective. The Beyoncé from DC, to her solo career and finally now in her Renaissance era, has obviously had some vocal growth and change. I personally find her growls to compliment her high notes and yes, they are very much inspired from Gospel! They add this church feeling very emotive to me .
I agree with all of these points. Mariah Carey has definitely changed her voice and has developed some bad vocal habits now, but she definitely hasn't lost her voice. It's amazing how Beyonce is 40 but still isn't slowing down vocally, she really has longevity! And I've always thought that Ariana's lower register is so underrated. For being a soprano, she has definitely taken effort to improve on her lower register and I love the dark tones she gives on her lower register. It obviously takes more effort for her than belting F5's, G5's, and even higher, but the fact that she's still able to do it! Yes, she definitely doesn't have the best lower register a soprano has, but her voice is very high-toned even for a soprano and every singer has a weak register but she's trying her best and we need to give her credit for that.
UAhm?!!! The track of presetation is "Maria" from CHRISTINA AGUILERA?!!!!!
Ain't Nobody gon talk bout the admins's voice? Ummm... I'm a faaaaaann!!!!!
Mariah situation confused me so much...but I do hope she will lower her key when performing life....
Live*
Morissette is the only artist that can sing live in all genres, in several languages and has more technical skills than anybody else. 🥰🏆
i wish you could do a video of vocalists who don't get as much credit about their influence like Brandy or maybe even Toni Braxton
I find it funny people actually say Beyoncé gas no emotion even tho her music is filled with so much emotion, yall idk how many times I have cried because I relate to something she’s saying so much and it hits home even more because she puts the emotion in feeling behind her singing. That’s the most funny thing I’ve heard, I guess they have nothing so they come up with something
I think mariah think she is too good for vocal training
No matter how successful you are you are never too good for a vocal practice
The older you get the more your voice change and eveytime your voice change you have to learn how to work with it
I love how you put two of my favorite singers ever as the thumbnail
I love Mariah but her Voice really changed. I think she needs rest. Or vocal training to repair it. She's a Legend but yeah Celine still has a much smoother live vocals. She needs adjustment since she is not in her prime anymore. Remember in the past even with technical difficulties she just shrug it off and sing Acapella. And her transitions and runs are smoother. Some of her performances in the past year. it's like she's getting out of breath. Sometimes i feel tight with the corset she's wearing.
Pop is such a technical and demanding genre tho
I agree with Ariana and Morissette
Mariah’s run in the beginning of the video looked goofy af. X)
It's so rare in kpop to sing without a backtrack that I was so positively surprised when Rose did it!
Patti LaBelle says hello at what age?
Can you review Demi Lovato's rock phase / their album? Could compare it with Miley Cyrus'? Love your videos!
Plastic hearts is so good
Pop Demi is no more she not coming back to Pop
Lol y’all just use to Mariah SANGING and she’s older now she can still sing her face off on a good day!!! Y’all need to stop acting like these new pops girls can outsing Mariah
Every time I thing of Jessie J it would be hard to not label her as too much…however Jessie is a artistic with her over singing and it’s her signature sound, it’s how many people differentiate her voice from others and it’s actually quite impressive
Mariah's voice is not mostly in tact. It has been severely damaged over twenty years now. She has completely lost her legato, her live whistles are shakey and her entire voice is covered in rasp.
Christina has chosen to push her chest voice up to reach her belting notes, and her choice is not to mix, as probably healthy singing would suggest. By doing that, we hear that distortion. You call it bad, but she is the best at using that distortion, and maybe when she uses her mix in the studio, the sound she produces is not that impactful as she wants it to be. Clearly, her technique may not be healthy for most, but it works for her, and it has not ruined her voice. She knows her voice better than vocal coaches or us who discuss her voice here. She is a singer, before being a vocalist, and her main goal is to move people! She is super focused on this goal, and her voice will always be there... (waiting for people after 10 years to reply to this comment and confirm that she still has it).
10000 percent agree
Totally agree!!
Yes mariah lost her voice and did use a bad tecnic through the years....beyonce is full of emotion ...have an increadible voice AND TECNIC and it is problably the best vocalist and performer we'll ever see..ariana needs to training more her breath while shes singing lower or chest voice...cause it sounds like she is always brethless....i think thats why she is almost always singing that high ,cause it is sounds perfect....yes jessie j oversings always ....and so do christina aguilera ..but christina have a bealtiful voice when shes not screeaming the whole song...and the others i think they could just do playback ....nobody cares 😂😂😂just kidding 😏
As long as they sing and as long as they are successful; everyone should be happy! 🤔🙏🤗👍🏻
Somebody sent a magic to Mariah in her prime era... To make her shortbreath, tight in vocal chord..
Not me being shocked, appalled, jaw on the floor personally offended every time one of criticisms was revealed.
I love it!
Why you all talking about Mariah lossing her voice! She is 52 years old, 3 decades of career and gave her best to all performance she had. When Whitney lost her voice when she uses drugs u don't talk about it and now when Mariah is already old Ur trying to take her down! What a shame! Mariah will always be the Queen of Music!
Um can we point out your frickin Ariana impression omg that was so beautiful wtf
One thing I notice about Mariah is when she can't belt or do a high note, she can easily whistle (The whole TAOM tour is the epitome of this) Meanwhile, if she can belt, she can't whistle properly (Daydream, she dodges a lot of whistle in this tour) Not only that, but her voice frequently change like every other album.