I'm pretty sure BW spellcasters with their broken (by SC2 standards) abilities are the way to go. Queen, Defilier, Dark Archon, etc. If not - just go with SC2 meta. Because spellcasters are the only significant advantage BW units have over SC2 ones.
@@Saren-yc1rk The SC1 basic units are vastly inferior to their SC2 counterparts, but the SC1 spellcasters are absurdly broken compared to their SC2 counterparts. The only exception to this is the SC1 Hydralisk which dunks on its SC2 version.
The SC1 Zealot grunts really gave the protoss a menacing feel, they went with a more mystical feel in SC2 but I prefer the advanced yet brutal SC1 warrior tribes.
Player names: Lavender - Come save me quick Light blue - I too have no units (army / soldier) Dark blue - The East Wind Blows the Dream to Chang'an (this appears to be a poem by Li Bai) 6:01 Opposite base has exploded
@@Kruggov the armor and faster ground attack rate were good. If the scout wasn't expensive and slow to build, it would've been great for harassment and surgical strikes.
SC1 Protoss will always be legendary. “For Aiur! For Adun! My life for Aiur! What would you ask of me?! Carrier online. Oh and don’t forget bee bee boo beep of the Reaver!”
20:00 I thought BW storms do more damage than sc2 storms over a SHORTER duration, not longer. Someone fact check this. Fun fact: The Koreans nicknamed the Scout "Prince of the Skies" as they are very good at taking down capital ships if they outnumber the capital ships 3 to 1. It is clearly a nickname intended to mock the unit :P Also, one of the problems of sc2 is that unit sounds are way too bland. Hearing the BW sound effects in sc2 is blessing to my ears :D
This mod has so many amazing possibilities!!! (competitively) Duo's where one teamate has to play SC1 race and the other has to play SC2. Would be amazing. SC2 Zerg creep would be a nightmare potentially. (for their teammate)
Scouts have two upgrades in the Fleet Beacon: Increased Sight and Increased Speed. Also, their anti-air attack is "Explosive" (half damage against Small/Light units like Banshee), while their anti-ground attack is "Normal" (full damage to everything but it has low DPS).
3:30 "fun fact" the art of adding value to your own improvised words ❤ and then moving on. Perfect rhythm as always, Winter. Keeping that commenting macro as tight as you always do.
back in my teenage years i would play those fastest money possible no rush noob maps. The guy said no rush 20, and i asked can i scout your base before? and he said sure. So i proceeded to mass scouts and kill him at the 10 min mark.
Scouts and wraiths are strong anti-armor units against air: overlords, slow moving armored capital ships like battlecruisers and carriers, flying Terran buildings like barracks/factory/command center.
you get the like and comment for spreading this...i really hope this mod expands with some of the arcade factions or adaptations (i've seen recently a mod on grant games archives whatever with a rework for the tychus faction in campaign, making it more usable outside of arcade mode
" The supply is in the 30's across the board like most the people watching this video ". That Made me blert out laughing. You earned the subscription lol.
I'd been watching some of your Broodwar SC2 mod vids, and I was thinking yesterday "I wonder if everyone is still sleeping on Scouts" Seems like I might have an answer. They DO still seem to be sleeping on Reavers, though.
In this mod scouts are a bit cheaper and have very high dps vs air units, especially armored ones. However, I've even burned through Mutas with them. Honestly I think supply for supply they're very tough to beat in this mod for any other air unit.
This wasnt even a good game... This was a great freaking match! Didnt know who was going to win, the cheese, the command center flying, WHAT A FREAKING MATCH!
Sight range upgrade lifts more fog of war to reveal more of the map. Especially useful with observers to reveal more map or cloaked units. And also, I am 50, not 30!
Cannons in SC2 have 150/150, and 1 armor. In BW they had 100/100 and 0 armor. That's a 100 HP diff, plus armor - not to mention they don't take a year to replenish their shields.
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that SCOUTS do not have a U between the t and s and that Scouts are relevant to Starcraft... loving this sc1 v sc2 btw
scouts are way better against sc2 races because sc2 races pull out heavy air units a lot more often scouts are basically anti-armor phoenixes so they wreck corruptors, carriers, libs, etc mostly just struggle against vikangs
Hi! I have Epilepsy and the storm effect shown at 12:53 instantly gave me an ocular migraine (warning sign for a seizure). If anyone who sees this is in contact with the mod creator(s), please let them know to add a toggle or decrease the flickering to be slower than 10 flashes per second. Don't worry, I am okay; it usually takes a few seconds of sustained exposure to a trigger for a seizure to happen. So I just looked away, but the ocular migraine persists for a while. Lucky for me is that mine don't hurt, but it's still uncomfortable :/
I’ve seen multiple Starcraft 2 streamers use that classic teal color even outside this mod, and now I see the classic purple color? How do you get these? Ngl, I missed those too colors dearly during my SC2 misadventures
The coolest thing about this mod is there is no meta. It's all new
Yes.
SC1T/SC2Z 2v2 cheese idea: Nydus roach medic rush
I'm pretty sure BW spellcasters with their broken (by SC2 standards) abilities are the way to go. Queen, Defilier, Dark Archon, etc.
If not - just go with SC2 meta.
Because spellcasters are the only significant advantage BW units have over SC2 ones.
@@Saren-yc1rk
The SC1 basic units are vastly inferior to their SC2 counterparts, but the SC1 spellcasters are absurdly broken compared to their SC2 counterparts. The only exception to this is the SC1 Hydralisk which dunks on its SC2 version.
@@joshuakim5240
The dragoon crushes most sc2 toss units. Against stalkers, you win up-front fights. Against immortals, you outrange them
Those brood war noises are bringing back memories man
This mod fills me with a joy i hadn't felt since the early days of WoL where every pro game was a unique, new, mystery lol
The SC1 Zealot grunts really gave the protoss a menacing feel, they went with a more mystical feel in SC2 but I prefer the advanced yet brutal SC1 warrior tribes.
Player names:
Lavender - Come save me quick
Light blue - I too have no units (army / soldier)
Dark blue - The East Wind Blows the Dream to Chang'an (this appears to be a poem by Li Bai)
6:01 Opposite base has exploded
Red - I is my probe and gateway key
Ty for translations tho fr
23:13 "they sent away the carriers"
"Supplies...across the board in their 30s, like most of the people watching this video..."
You're being very kind, son.
I'm in my early 20s haha
I feel called out haha
Same! lol
Top banter
I took that personally 😂
4:26 How did he figure that out??... Oh, because his probes are dying to a dt 😂
the scout was a thing before broodwar. it has a sight range upgrade because it's a scout.
also i'm in my 40s. not 30s :(
I still clearly remember the vanilla scout.
90 shields, 130 hp, 1 armor, 12(2) anti-air, 8 ground attack (but 22 attack rate) 😄
@@kadabarVIM Oh god, it was WORSE for 300/150?
Ye gods.
@@Kruggov the armor and faster ground attack rate were good. If the scout wasn't expensive and slow to build, it would've been great for harassment and surgical strikes.
Repairing dragoons is so awesome
SC1 Protoss will always be legendary. “For Aiur! For Adun! My life for Aiur! What would you ask of me?! Carrier online. Oh and don’t forget bee bee boo beep of the Reaver!”
Carrier has arrived
man even just 1 minute in the intro, quirks, and deliveries are just on point. Love the energy and humor you put into your content!
I really want to see a 3v3 that is SC1 vs SC2 Protoss, Zerg, and Terran for each.
Never thought I'd install this game again but...yeah, I've seen enough. "I am needed".
"I have returned!"
Lol me too, haven’t played in 5 years
Maybe I can find time to return also
20:00 I thought BW storms do more damage than sc2 storms over a SHORTER duration, not longer. Someone fact check this. Fun fact: The Koreans nicknamed the Scout "Prince of the Skies" as they are very good at taking down capital ships if they outnumber the capital ships 3 to 1. It is clearly a nickname intended to mock the unit :P Also, one of the problems of sc2 is that unit sounds are way too bland. Hearing the BW sound effects in sc2 is blessing to my ears :D
Brood War Zealot + Medivac would've been a really nice combination and they both had the tech for it... :(
This mod has so many amazing possibilities!!! (competitively) Duo's where one teamate has to play SC1 race and the other has to play SC2. Would be amazing. SC2 Zerg creep would be a nightmare potentially. (for their teammate)
I could definitely watch an extra video of these!!
This mod should change the loss condition to only getting all of one's bases destroyed.
Scouts have two upgrades in the Fleet Beacon: Increased Sight and Increased Speed.
Also, their anti-air attack is "Explosive" (half damage against Small/Light units like Banshee), while their anti-ground attack is "Normal" (full damage to everything but it has low DPS).
In this mod they just express this by the anti-air attack doing bonus damaged to armored.
Weren’t Corsairs medium....so how would they do the damage modifier vs that?
My nostalgia bone: T H R O B B I N G
That mine drag. The most damage caused by a Scout you will ever see.
Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful! I didn't get to see Arbiters team up with SC2 BC's, but it was a display of beautiful chaos all the same!
I havent even looked back at sc1 since sc2 graced the world but now that I do i realise how much i missed the sfx.
I absolutely love watching 2v2 3v3 4v4, especially pro players, ESPECIALLY SC Evo Complete, so this is such a gem to watch for me!
3:30 "fun fact" the art of adding value to your own improvised words ❤ and then moving on.
Perfect rhythm as always, Winter. Keeping that commenting macro as tight as you always do.
all the sc1 sound effects gave me dopamine and nostalgia
Starcraft needed this. The shakeup of effectively 6 races has created so much entertainment.
This is the best thing ever. I didn’t know I could love again.
SC1 Protoss Scout should do +2 ground dmg, and cost -25 mineral and gas
SC1 Terran ghost should do +2 dmg
SC1 Zerg Guardian +15 hp / Devourer +5 dmg
This is the best thing to ever happen to sc2! If you cast more of these games, I'll definitely be watching them :)
back in my teenage years i would play those fastest money possible no rush noob maps. The guy said no rush 20, and i asked can i scout your base before? and he said sure. So i proceeded to mass scouts and kill him at the 10 min mark.
Lmao! Gotta love it.
7:04 "Banshee in the back has 1 HP, 12 kills & 0 fucks to give". That got me good man 😀
this is so unique and fun, I hope you and the community keep doin' stuff like this. Makes me want to play again
I am loving the SC1 vs SC2 games! Super entertaining. And holy shit those SC1 storms look AMAZING
Earth 1 forces VS Earth 2 Forces
INto the multiverse of starcraft madness
"I refuse to call that purple, that's clearly lavander. Fight me!"
18:37 This part is beautiful to watch, looks a little bit like a movie
15:15 Poor Scout, you when to far man 🤣
I've seen scouts in one pro game, as a response to a carrier rush on a map with eggs blocking the land routes.
Scouts and wraiths are strong anti-armor units against air: overlords, slow moving armored capital ships like battlecruisers and carriers, flying Terran buildings like barracks/factory/command center.
you get the like and comment for spreading this...i really hope this mod expands with some of the arcade factions or adaptations (i've seen recently a mod on grant games archives whatever with a rework for the tychus faction in campaign, making it more usable outside of arcade mode
SC1 vs SC2 is getting more and more fun, i'm playing it daily now =)))
21:52 commits to an unfulfilling relationship is the quality content I'm here for Winter ^_^
" The supply is in the 30's across the board like most the people watching this video ". That Made me blert out laughing. You earned the subscription lol.
I'd been watching some of your Broodwar SC2 mod vids, and I was thinking yesterday "I wonder if everyone is still sleeping on Scouts"
Seems like I might have an answer. They DO still seem to be sleeping on Reavers, though.
The amount of action in the first 5 mins is insane!
Split the 3 Faction "Rebels" (SC1) and "Loyalists" (SC2) like what SINS did.
Terran Raiders (TR), Terran Dominion (TD), Zerg Overmind (ZO), Zerg Queen (ZQ), Protos Khala (PK), Protos Scion (PS).
In this mod scouts are a bit cheaper and have very high dps vs air units, especially armored ones. However, I've even burned through Mutas with them. Honestly I think supply for supply they're very tough to beat in this mod for any other air unit.
It's been more than a decade now, I'm wondering: does the dragoon say "fuck youuuu..." when they die?
Cant unhear it now lol
I always loved playing zerglings in sc1 😂 they are so good especially with sc2 pathing and well better unit management
This is sick! Love the casting. So much nostalgia!
A scandinavian of vikings is the best thing I've heard all week lmao
Oh, wow. Team colours that actually make sense.
Yes!! More of these please!!
I definitely think SC1 photos units look a lot more like an Advance Mecha Terran army than to another world advance race lol....
This wasnt even a good game... This was a great freaking match! Didnt know who was going to win, the cheese, the command center flying, WHAT A FREAKING MATCH!
if you upload multiple games, i will watch multiple games
really nice, it's like a new game alltogether, but still i the comfort zone of Starcraft. we want more !
5:57 opponent’s base has exploded
dunno why i remember this, but scout sight range is called apial sensors
Am I the only one who always thought the dragoons said "F*K you" as their death sound?
Sight range upgrade lifts more fog of war to reveal more of the map. Especially useful with observers to reveal more map or cloaked units. And also, I am 50, not 30!
Cannons in SC2 have 150/150, and 1 armor. In BW they had 100/100 and 0 armor. That's a 100 HP diff, plus armor - not to mention they don't take a year to replenish their shields.
Id love to see more of these for sure
Id like to see more of that mod. good watch
Only a minute in and the video is already incredible. Love you, Winter!
More sc1 vs Sc2!
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that SCOUTS do not have a U between the t and s and that Scouts are relevant to Starcraft... loving this sc1 v sc2 btw
Do more than 1 video a day!!! Loving the SC Evo!!
In Sc1 Scouts were the Best anty air unit. All tested.
Banshee with 1hp, 12 kills and zero f*cks to give got me to rofl so hard :D
Scouts were always such a cool unit; they don't deserve to be so underwhelming.
scouts are way better against sc2 races because sc2 races pull out heavy air units a lot more often
scouts are basically anti-armor phoenixes so they wreck corruptors, carriers, libs, etc
mostly just struggle against vikangs
on today's "My Race can beat up your Race"
Scouts had a speed upgrade that made them insanely fast, dunno if its in this mod tho
first 7mins was intense lol
yessssss glad to see more of this
6:27 Winter making me feel like I'm the one losing this game 😭
Very cool, would like to see more!
Capitalizing on nostalgia so good. When you have a trillion likes will be even more amusing.
Lavender not making an armory was slightly infuriating.
Now SC2 and BW players can come together to demand scout buffs
It’s like a brand new game again
Wow.. the units look way better in this mod.
Hi! I have Epilepsy and the storm effect shown at 12:53 instantly gave me an ocular migraine (warning sign for a seizure). If anyone who sees this is in contact with the mod creator(s), please let them know to add a toggle or decrease the flickering to be slower than 10 flashes per second. Don't worry, I am okay; it usually takes a few seconds of sustained exposure to a trigger for a seizure to happen. So I just looked away, but the ocular migraine persists for a while. Lucky for me is that mine don't hurt, but it's still uncomfortable :/
I ❤ bw zealot attack sounds!
With the mod is there og campaign in sc2 aswell?
Thank You
Om nom nom
I miss the SC1 Zealot attack sound.
Agreed, it's definitely lavander.
Nice to see mass goons is still a thing lol
Now i want a crossover between Starcraft and W40k Dawn of War.
utter chaos. not sure how you do it.
Scouts would be OP vs Zerg because they beat up corruptors better than voidrays
I’ve seen multiple Starcraft 2 streamers use that classic teal color even outside this mod, and now I see the classic purple color? How do you get these? Ngl, I missed those too colors dearly during my SC2 misadventures
8:05 scouts have the best anti-air for protoss. They're just too expensive.
are the protoss the only sc1 race in this mod? cause thats basically all i see
i would watch both videos each day if you up loaded 2 videos a day.
I still wonder why they didn't remake StarCraft 1 in the StarCraft 2 engine
This mod is the best thing to happen to SC2 since they increased the starting worker count. So much fun, it needs an official ladder!!!!
I wonder if anyone on that discord has made the 'marines: exist' classic game balance complaint. Surely not.